HOTMAIL ON SEAMONKEY 2.49.3
HELLO, I AM USING SINCE MAY YEARS SEAMONKEY AND HAVE SEVERAL EMAIL ACCOUNTS CONFIGURED ON MY SEAMONKY 2.49.3 ON MAC OS X 10.9.5 I AM NOW TRYING TO GET A HOTMAIL ACCOUNT GOING ON MY SEAMONKEY BUT UNFORTUNATELY HAVE BEEN UNSUCCESSFUL. YOUR HELP WOULD BE VERY MUCH APPRECIATED. THANKS IN ADVANCE. BEST REGARDS, MIGUEL CUPEI - WOLF ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: In sea monkey hotmail problems
Chris Ilias wrote: On 12-12-28 7:27 AM, F Murtz wrote: Chris Ilias wrote: On 12-12-26 10:55 PM, F Murtz wrote: Hotmail won't accept mouse clicks. Nuttin happens after my hotmail page opens mouse clicks do nothing. I did get hotmail to work in IE. No problems here on my test account (using SeaMonkey 2.14.1 on Mac). Try something simple like clearing your cache and cookies. tried that first. my hotmail page opens and will put ticks in boxes with mouse clicks but will not open anything or delete ticked mail If you go to Help--Restart_with_Add-ons_Disabled, does the problem still occur? If not, the cause is probably an extension. it worked but what is strange is that when I restarted with addons back it worked without the problems. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: In sea monkey hotmail problems
On 12-12-26 10:55 PM, F Murtz wrote: Hotmail won't accept mouse clicks. Nuttin happens after my hotmail page opens mouse clicks do nothing. I did get hotmail to work in IE. No problems here on my test account (using SeaMonkey 2.14.1 on Mac). Try something simple like clearing your cache and cookies. -- Chris Ilias http://ilias.ca Newsgroup moderator ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: In sea monkey hotmail problems
Chris Ilias wrote: On 12-12-26 10:55 PM, F Murtz wrote: Hotmail won't accept mouse clicks. Nuttin happens after my hotmail page opens mouse clicks do nothing. I did get hotmail to work in IE. No problems here on my test account (using SeaMonkey 2.14.1 on Mac). Try something simple like clearing your cache and cookies. tried that first. my hotmail page opens and will put ticks in boxes with mouse clicks but will not open anything or delete ticked mail ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: In sea monkey hotmail problems
On 12-12-28 7:27 AM, F Murtz wrote: Chris Ilias wrote: On 12-12-26 10:55 PM, F Murtz wrote: Hotmail won't accept mouse clicks. Nuttin happens after my hotmail page opens mouse clicks do nothing. I did get hotmail to work in IE. No problems here on my test account (using SeaMonkey 2.14.1 on Mac). Try something simple like clearing your cache and cookies. tried that first. my hotmail page opens and will put ticks in boxes with mouse clicks but will not open anything or delete ticked mail If you go to Help--Restart_with_Add-ons_Disabled, does the problem still occur? If not, the cause is probably an extension. -- Chris Ilias http://ilias.ca Newsgroup moderator ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
In sea monkey hotmail problems
Hotmail won't accept mouse clicks. Nuttin happens after my hotmail page opens mouse clicks do nothing. I did get hotmail to work in IE. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
What Happened to Hotmail?
When I access my Hotmail account now, all I get are titles down the left hand side, and I can't access any of my folders. Is this happening to anyone else? Looks real strange... ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: hotmail/live imap/pop3 settings?
MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 11/02/2012 19:28, sean nathan bean told the world: further google searching reveals hotmail/live doesn't support imap at all... my mistrust of all things google sent me back to microsoft looking for an alternative... only to find, windows mail solutions still suck... c'est la vie... Yeah, I had a look around too. Apparently they are deliberately holding on IMAP in order to push for their proprietary DeltaSync protocol. But I remembered I have an old Hotmail account I no longer use. I checked it -- yeah, it is still active. So I tried to set it up in Seamonkey according to these instructions: http://www.liveside.net/2009/03/13/pop3-technology-has-now-rolled-out-to-hotmail-customers-worldwide/ ...but actually, I just followed the SM new-account wizard and filled in the blanks. Turns out it download the messages with no problems using the default POP3 port 110, with no encryption. (Although that might have been my antivirus, Avast -- there's a gateway to live.com on port 995 that I don't remember setting up, so it might be that it auto-configures these gateways for known services, so I might be using SSL on port 995 without knowing it.) Manually changing the options for Connection Security SSL/TLS (port 995) didn't seem to cause any problems. I also set up SMTP on port 587 (with STARTTLS) and it worked fine, except for a message telling me to log on and do a CAPTCHA -- which I wasn't able to find. Now I remember why I never liked Hotmail... i did get ae...@live.com to download mail once or twice into seamonkey, but they want more frequent checkins to their webmail portal apparently... thanks for taking time to poke around MC... i never used to like hotmail... and i've never used it previosly... but thought i'd give the new windowslive features a look see... me no likeee sean ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
hotmail/live imap/pop3 settings?
does anyone have this working in SeaMonkey? these are what Microsoft says should work: pop3.live.com - 995 ssl smtp.live.com - 587 start/tls but it never does... sean -- A file that big? It might be very useful. But now it is gone. TagZilla 0.066.2 from http://tagzilla.mozdev.org ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: hotmail/live imap/pop3 settings?
sean nathan bean wrote: does anyone have this working in SeaMonkey? these are what Microsoft says should work: pop3.live.com - 995 ssl smtp.live.com - 587 start/tls but it never does... Do you have a Hotmail account that is actually eligible for POP access? I seem to remember that the free accounts were changed, oh a decade ago, to webmail access only -- unless you upgraded to a fee-based account. -- -bts -This space for rent, but the price is high ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: hotmail/live imap/pop3 settings?
sean nathan bean wrote: does anyone have this working in SeaMonkey? these are what Microsoft says should work: pop3.live.com - 995 ssl smtp.live.com - 587 start/tls but it never does... sean sean, why don't you give freepops a try. it's free! http://www.freepops.org i'm using it with the latest SM version in order to access my yahoo accounts. it works perfectly. and although i haven't tried it with hotmail, it does show that there is a plugin for it. here's the plugin for hotmail... http://www.freepops.org/en/viewplugin.php?plugin=hotmail i hope it helps. glen ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: hotmail/live imap/pop3 settings?
Interviewed by CNN on 11/02/2012 14:26, sean nathan bean told the world: does anyone have this working in SeaMonkey? these are what Microsoft says should work: pop3.live.com - 995 ssl smtp.live.com - 587 start/tls but it never does... I don't have a Hotmail account, but I have noticed that webmail providers have been quietly allowing IMAP access in order to be usable by smartphone/tablet users. For instance, both Yahoo and Mail.com, which used to allow POP/IMAP access only for premium users, now allow free IMAP -- but sometimes, not POP -- access. So, I would try IMAP before POP. -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Sent from my Strawberry. * Added by TagZilla 0.7a1 running on Seamonkey 2.7 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: hotmail/live imap/pop3 settings?
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: sean nathan bean wrote: does anyone have this working in SeaMonkey? these are what Microsoft says should work: pop3.live.com - 995 ssl smtp.live.com - 587 start/tls but it never does... Do you have a Hotmail account that is actually eligible for POP access? I seem to remember that the free accounts were changed, oh a decade ago, to webmail access only -- unless you upgraded to a fee-based account. i was casting about for a new e'mail address and thought i'd see how windows live was working w/in Seamonkey... encouraged by this article dated 2009... http://www.ghacks.net/2009/03/14/hotmail-pop3-configuration/ which says its available to anyone... i've had it work for a few days at a time... but it always begins throwing up errors after three days or so... its no biggie, just wondered if i was the only one scratching my head... sean -- Do not accustom yourself to use big words for little matters. ~ Samuel Johnson TagZilla 0.066.2 from http://tagzilla.mozdev.org ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: hotmail/live imap/pop3 settings?
MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 11/02/2012 14:26, sean nathan bean told the world: does anyone have this working in SeaMonkey? these are what Microsoft says should work: pop3.live.com - 995 ssl smtp.live.com - 587 start/tls but it never does... I don't have a Hotmail account, but I have noticed that webmail providers have been quietly allowing IMAP access in order to be usable by smartphone/tablet users. For instance, both Yahoo and Mail.com, which used to allow POP/IMAP access only for premium users, now allow free IMAP -- but sometimes, not POP -- access. So, I would try IMAP before POP. i generally dislike imap, but i'll give it a whirl... sean -- You step in the stream... But the water has moved on... This page is not here. TagZilla 0.066.2 from http://tagzilla.mozdev.org ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: hotmail/live imap/pop3 settings?
Glen wrote: sean nathan bean wrote: does anyone have this working in SeaMonkey? these are what Microsoft says should work: pop3.live.com - 995 ssl smtp.live.com - 587 start/tls but it never does... sean sean, why don't you give freepops a try. it's free! http://www.freepops.org i'm using it with the latest SM version in order to access my yahoo accounts. it works perfectly. and although i haven't tried it with hotmail, it does show that there is a plugin for it. here's the plugin for hotmail... http://www.freepops.org/en/viewplugin.php?plugin=hotmail i hope it helps. glen i also generally dislike having to use addons for things that should work as MS implies here... http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_live/b/windowslive/archive/2011/07/07/an-update-on-ssl-support.aspx but i may relent...or just create a new account from my ISP... sean -- Gee, Toto, I don't think we're in Kansas anymore. ~ Dorothy TagZilla 0.066.2 from http://tagzilla.mozdev.org ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: hotmail/live imap/pop3 settings?
MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 11/02/2012 14:26, sean nathan bean told the world: does anyone have this working in SeaMonkey? these are what Microsoft says should work: pop3.live.com - 995 ssl smtp.live.com - 587 start/tls but it never does... I don't have a Hotmail account, but I have noticed that webmail providers have been quietly allowing IMAP access in order to be usable by smartphone/tablet users. For instance, both Yahoo and Mail.com, which used to allow POP/IMAP access only for premium users, now allow free IMAP -- but sometimes, not POP -- access. So, I would try IMAP before POP. further google searching reveals hotmail/live doesn't support imap at all... my mistrust of all things google sent me back to microsoft looking for an alternative... only to find, windows mail solutions still suck... c'est la vie... sean ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: hotmail/live imap/pop3 settings?
sean nathan bean wrote: Glen wrote: sean nathan bean wrote: does anyone have this working in SeaMonkey? these are what Microsoft says should work: pop3.live.com - 995 ssl smtp.live.com - 587 start/tls but it never does... sean sean, why don't you give freepops a try. it's free! http://www.freepops.org i'm using it with the latest SM version in order to access my yahoo accounts. it works perfectly. and although i haven't tried it with hotmail, it does show that there is a plugin for it. here's the plugin for hotmail... http://www.freepops.org/en/viewplugin.php?plugin=hotmail i hope it helps. glen i also generally dislike having to use addons for things that should work as MS implies here... http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_live/b/windowslive/archive/2011/07/07/an-update-on-ssl-support.aspx but i may relent...or just create a new account from my ISP... sean freepops is not an addon to SM, but a separate program that must be run along side SM to access various mail providers. i have it run automatically via the startup folder when windows starts, and i sometimes even forget that it's running. if you are still encountering a problem, i'd check it out and see if may work for you as well. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: hotmail/live imap/pop3 settings?
Interviewed by CNN on 11/02/2012 19:28, sean nathan bean told the world: further google searching reveals hotmail/live doesn't support imap at all... my mistrust of all things google sent me back to microsoft looking for an alternative... only to find, windows mail solutions still suck... c'est la vie... Yeah, I had a look around too. Apparently they are deliberately holding on IMAP in order to push for their proprietary DeltaSync protocol. But I remembered I have an old Hotmail account I no longer use. I checked it -- yeah, it is still active. So I tried to set it up in Seamonkey according to these instructions: http://www.liveside.net/2009/03/13/pop3-technology-has-now-rolled-out-to-hotmail-customers-worldwide/ ...but actually, I just followed the SM new-account wizard and filled in the blanks. Turns out it download the messages with no problems using the default POP3 port 110, with no encryption. (Although that might have been my antivirus, Avast -- there's a gateway to live.com on port 995 that I don't remember setting up, so it might be that it auto-configures these gateways for known services, so I might be using SSL on port 995 without knowing it.) Manually changing the options for Connection Security SSL/TLS (port 995) didn't seem to cause any problems. I also set up SMTP on port 587 (with STARTTLS) and it worked fine, except for a message telling me to log on and do a CAPTCHA -- which I wasn't able to find. Now I remember why I never liked Hotmail... -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Sent from my IBM PC-XT. * Added by TagZilla 0.7a1 running on Seamonkey 2.7 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Interesting hotmail information
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Re: Can't Access Hotmail
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Re: Hotmail and 2.0.14
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Tom Pamin wrote: Tom Pamin wrote: MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 11/08/2011 17:48, Tom Pamin told the world: Hotmail is now asking me to upgrade my browser every time I log in. I already modified my about:config in order to get Yahoo Mail to work, by adding Firefox/3.0 after general.useragent.extra.seamonkey2. What do I have to do now to get Hotmail to recognize SM 2.0.14? Try Firefox/3.6 instead of Firefox/3.0. That seems to have worked so far - thanks. I spoke too soon - showing 3.6 works for Hotmail, but now Yahoo is asking me to upgrade. How do I show both 3.0 and 3.6 in about:config? But isn't any FF 3.x now passe. You must upgrade with the Joneses. :-) :-| :-( And anyway this is a SeaMonkey discussion group. :-\ Yes, Rostyslaw, this is a SeaMonkey discussion group, which is why op Tom is asking, in effect, what value he should put in his Browser Build Identifier string to make both Yahoo and Hotmail work correctly. -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Hotmail and 2.0.14
Daniel wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Tom Pamin wrote: Tom Pamin wrote: MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 11/08/2011 17:48, Tom Pamin told the world: Hotmail is now asking me to upgrade my browser every time I log in. I already modified my about:config in order to get Yahoo Mail to work, by adding Firefox/3.0 after general.useragent.extra.seamonkey2. What do I have to do now to get Hotmail to recognize SM 2.0.14? Try Firefox/3.6 instead of Firefox/3.0. That seems to have worked so far - thanks. I spoke too soon - showing 3.6 works for Hotmail, but now Yahoo is asking me to upgrade. How do I show both 3.0 and 3.6 in about:config? But isn't any FF 3.x now passe. You must upgrade with the Joneses. :-) :-| :-( And anyway this is a SeaMonkey discussion group. :-\ Yes, Rostyslaw, this is a SeaMonkey discussion group, which is why op Tom is asking, in effect, what value he should put in his Browser Build Identifier string to make both Yahoo and Hotmail work correctly. This particular Jones is not impressed with upgrades. :-) -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Hotmail and 2.0.14
D. K. Kraft wrote: With patience akin to a cat's, Arnie Goetchius, on 8/12/2011 2:03 PM typed: Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: Tom Pamin wrote: Hotmail is now asking me to upgrade my browser every time I log in. I already modified my about:config in order to get Yahoo Mail to work, by adding Firefox/3.0 after general.useragent.extra.seamonkey2. What do I have to do now to get Hotmail to recognize SM 2.0.14? Upgrade to 2.2 (or 2.3) and you *should* be good. But then you get duplicate tabs when you click on Home. Bug 369440. That's keeping me with 2.0.xx Second that, among other still-present glitches... Arnie, check how you have your prefs configured for adding the Firefox notations to your UA string. My own SM 2.0.14 (running Mnenhy 0.8.3 for expanded header info) is listing your UA as the following: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.19) Gecko/20110420 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.16) Gecko/20110319 Firefox/3.6.16 Firefox /3.0 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.16) Gecko/20110319 Firefox/3.6.16 Firefox/3.0 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.16) Gecko/20110319 Firefox/3.6.16 Firefox/3.0 It looks like your SM is sending the UA in quadruplicate, with a triplicate of the same info prefaced by a UA that only references Gecko info. This is very strange. Compare your UA above to my own below: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.19) Gecko/20110420 Lightning/1.0b1 Mnenhy/0.8.3 SeaMonkey/2.0.14 Something appears to be skewed in the way your copy of SM is relaying its User Agent string. Definitely need to check that. I'd say that's probably the core of the problem. Purrs and HTH -- Thanks for pointing that out. I'll work on it. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Hotmail and 2.0.14
With patience akin to a cat's, Arnie Goetchius, on 8/12/2011 2:03 PM typed: Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: Tom Pamin wrote: Hotmail is now asking me to upgrade my browser every time I log in. I already modified my about:config in order to get Yahoo Mail to work, by adding Firefox/3.0 after general.useragent.extra.seamonkey2. What do I have to do now to get Hotmail to recognize SM 2.0.14? Upgrade to 2.2 (or 2.3) and you *should* be good. But then you get duplicate tabs when you click on Home. Bug 369440. That's keeping me with 2.0.xx Second that, among other still-present glitches... Arnie, check how you have your prefs configured for adding the Firefox notations to your UA string. My own SM 2.0.14 (running Mnenhy 0.8.3 for expanded header info) is listing your UA as the following: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.19) Gecko/20110420 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.16) Gecko/20110319 Firefox/3.6.16 Firefox /3.0 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.16) Gecko/20110319 Firefox/3.6.16 Firefox/3.0 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.16) Gecko/20110319 Firefox/3.6.16 Firefox/3.0 It looks like your SM is sending the UA in quadruplicate, with a triplicate of the same info prefaced by a UA that only references Gecko info. This is very strange. Compare your UA above to my own below: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.19) Gecko/20110420 Lightning/1.0b1 Mnenhy/0.8.3 SeaMonkey/2.0.14 Something appears to be skewed in the way your copy of SM is relaying its User Agent string. Definitely need to check that. I'd say that's probably the core of the problem. Purrs and HTH -- -- /\ /\ | A cat pours his body on the floor ^o o^D.K. Cat Kraft | like water. It is restful just -T- | to see him. ~ Lynnwood, WA | ___oOO___OOo___ | -- William Lyon Phelps ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Hotmail and 2.0.14
Tom Pamin wrote: Hotmail is now asking me to upgrade my browser every time I log in. I already modified my about:config in order to get Yahoo Mail to work, by adding Firefox/3.0 after general.useragent.extra.seamonkey2. What do I have to do now to get Hotmail to recognize SM 2.0.14? Upgrade to 2.2 (or 2.3) and you *should* be good. -- ~Justin Wood (Callek) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Hotmail and 2.0.14
Tom Pamin wrote: MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 11/08/2011 17:48, Tom Pamin told the world: Hotmail is now asking me to upgrade my browser every time I log in. I already modified my about:config in order to get Yahoo Mail to work, by adding Firefox/3.0 after general.useragent.extra.seamonkey2. What do I have to do now to get Hotmail to recognize SM 2.0.14? Try Firefox/3.6 instead of Firefox/3.0. That seems to have worked so far - thanks. I spoke too soon - showing 3.6 works for Hotmail, but now Yahoo is asking me to upgrade. How do I show both 3.0 and 3.6 in about:config? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Hotmail and 2.0.14
Tom Pamin wrote: Tom Pamin wrote: MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 11/08/2011 17:48, Tom Pamin told the world: Hotmail is now asking me to upgrade my browser every time I log in. I already modified my about:config in order to get Yahoo Mail to work, by adding Firefox/3.0 after general.useragent.extra.seamonkey2. What do I have to do now to get Hotmail to recognize SM 2.0.14? Try Firefox/3.6 instead of Firefox/3.0. That seems to have worked so far - thanks. I spoke too soon - showing 3.6 works for Hotmail, but now Yahoo is asking me to upgrade. How do I show both 3.0 and 3.6 in about:config? But isn't any FF 3.x now passe. You must upgrade with the Joneses. :-) :-| :-( And anyway this is a SeaMonkey discussion group. :-\ -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Hotmail and 2.0.14
Tom Pamin wrote: Tom Pamin wrote: MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 11/08/2011 17:48, Tom Pamin told the world: Hotmail is now asking me to upgrade my browser every time I log in. I already modified my about:config in order to get Yahoo Mail to work, by adding Firefox/3.0 after general.useragent.extra.seamonkey2. What do I have to do now to get Hotmail to recognize SM 2.0.14? Try Firefox/3.6 instead of Firefox/3.0. That seems to have worked so far - thanks. I spoke too soon - showing 3.6 works for Hotmail, but now Yahoo is asking me to upgrade. How do I show both 3.0 and 3.6 in about:config? I put them both in and it seems to work for Yahoo and Hotmail. Now Yahoo and Hotmail thinks you are using Firefox even though you are actually using Seamonkey 2.0.14 Gecko/20110319 Firefox/3.6.16 Firefox /3.0 I have three general.useragent.extra in my seamonkey about:config one for Firefox, one for Seamonkey and one for spoof I changed them all ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Hotmail and 2.0.14
Hotmail is now asking me to upgrade my browser every time I log in. I already modified my about:config in order to get Yahoo Mail to work, by adding Firefox/3.0 after general.useragent.extra.seamonkey2. What do I have to do now to get Hotmail to recognize SM 2.0.14? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Hotmail and 2.0.14
Interviewed by CNN on 11/08/2011 17:48, Tom Pamin told the world: Hotmail is now asking me to upgrade my browser every time I log in. I already modified my about:config in order to get Yahoo Mail to work, by adding Firefox/3.0 after general.useragent.extra.seamonkey2. What do I have to do now to get Hotmail to recognize SM 2.0.14? Try Firefox/3.6 instead of Firefox/3.0. -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Sent from my McCauley Omnicom. *Added by TagZilla 0.066.2 running on Seamonkey 2.1 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
hotmail
seamonkey is no longer working properly with hotmail... either via pop... or going to their webmail portal... can't download via pop and can't log into the webmail portal... XML Parsing Error: not well-formed Location: http://co106w.col106.mail.live.com/default.aspx?rru=inbox Line Number 65, Column 1075: -- Do not read this fortune under penalty of law. Violators will be prosecuted. courtesy of TagZilla 0.066.2 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SM/FF/hotmail -- who's at fault?
I have a correspondent who uses Firefox to view Hotmail messages on a Mac, and she keeps complaining she can't see what I've written. Any ideas? I send her something like this (without the equal signs): Dear Carol, Quoted material from her last message. My reply to her quote. hyphen-hyphen-space My sig And she sees this: Dear Carol, She's not stupid, she's not blind, she's not insane, she's just not getting my messages. There's no quoted material, no reply, and no sig. I know this for a fact because I just spent half an hour sitting next to her at her machine trying to find the magic button to reveal the rest of the messages, and failed. My guess is it's a Hotmail issue, so I'm in the wrong place, but if anyone has any ideas they will be welcome. She says she doesn't have this problem with any other senders, and I know I don't have it with any other recipients. TIA -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: setup of seamonkey mail client with hotmail account
omendez a écrit : hello, is there anybody who can help me to set up the seamonkey webclient in kubuntu 10.10? I've followed the instructions given in http://kb.mozillazine.org/Hotmail yet, the smtp server replies 'The message could not be sent because the connection to SMTP server smtp.live.com timed out. Try again or contact your network administrator.' Funny enough, when setting my account using kmail, I have no problem at all to send messages. any suggestion? I'm using seamonkey 2.0.11 thanks in advance the doc may be outdated, try googling -- cyberzen ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
setup of seamonkey mail client with hotmail account
hello, is there anybody who can help me to set up the seamonkey webclient in kubuntu 10.10? I've followed the instructions given in http://kb.mozillazine.org/Hotmail yet, the smtp server replies 'The message could not be sent because the connection to SMTP server smtp.live.com timed out. Try again or contact your network administrator.' Funny enough, when setting my account using kmail, I have no problem at all to send messages. any suggestion? I'm using seamonkey 2.0.11 thanks in advance ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Can't Get Hotmail
Tom Pamin wrote: JeffM wrote: Ray_Net wrote: Who is paying you to stress people using linux ? It's called sharing. As the user of a Free Software online suite, you should be familiar with the concept. People who mention a 12-year-old M$ OS (which is always running as root) often have experienced being pwned by a drive-by infection or borking their OS by deleting system files. There are numerous Free Software distros which will work on gear of that vintage and which don't have those problems. People who run those very old M$ OSes on very old boxes are also finding that the brand new peripherals they can buy don't have Win98 device drivers. Linux, OTOH, has the best hardware support of *ANY* OS. Windoze also continues to use the fragile, cumbersome Windoze Registry. Linux doesn't have that either. Windoze has always had Windoze Product Keys; the latest M$ OSes now have Windoze Product Activation and Windoze Genuine DISadvantage (aka remote kill switches controlled by M$). Linux doesn't have ANY of that nonsense. Many people think their ONLY choice is to buy new gear and get a new M$ OS. Largely because of M$'s illegal anti-competitive activities, may folks are not even *aware* that they have OTHER options. Linux is a solution that is available at zero cost --without the M$ gotchas. It works on old gear and you *don't* have to install it to try it. (Linux will **run** from the plastic disk.) Many have found Linux to be a way to give new life to old gear. Others cast off their old boxes (which are then picked up for a song--or even for free-- by Linux guys who restore their usefulness for $0). http://google.com/search?q=Helios-Project+Ken-Starks The point is that folks have choices. The fact that there are zero-cost solutions to problems is also appealing to some. ...and, again, the openness of Free Software is another factor that may be appealing. I had the same problem with Hotmail and 1.1.19. Here's what someone posted that worked for me: Go to about:config. Search for useragent and find general.useragent.extra.seamonkey. Right-click on it, choose Modify, and add the text NOT Firefox/3.6.8 Why not install PrefBar? It allows you to change the user agent on the fly and you can add other user agent strings from http://www.useragentstring.com/pages/useragentstring.php PrefBar has other uses too. Check it out! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Can't Get Hotmail
On 9/30/2010 4:08 PM PT, David E. Ross typed: I have been trying to check my Hotmail account via the Web. When I go tohttp://www.hotmail.com/, all I see is a blank page. My wife uses SeaMonkey 1.1.18 (^1) and has a hotmail account. Sometimes she gets a blank page; next time she'll get the login, and that will fail; next time it works perfectly. There might be an hour or two between attempts. Spoofing as IE7 doesn't help. She may sit down at my computer and use Firefox. Same thing... This started several months ago. I blame it all on Microsoft!! I see this problem with v2 as well. Sometimes it gives me mobile layout! Multiple refreshes/reloads sometimes work. Annoying. I told MS about this problem, but they keep saying SM is unsupported. The problem started when Hotmail got redesigned a few months ago. :( We all need to tell MS Hotmail team about this so they can fix it. I think the problem we're so small in number of users on Hotmail! -- Ants live safely till they have gotten wings. --unknown /\___/\ Phil./Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Can't Get Hotmail
JeffM wrote: Ray_Net wrote: Who is paying you to stress people using linux ? It's called sharing. As the user of a Free Software online suite, you should be familiar with the concept. People who mention a 12-year-old M$ OS (which is always running as root) often have experienced being pwned by a drive-by infection or borking their OS by deleting system files. There are numerous Free Software distros which will work on gear of that vintage and which don't have those problems. People who run those very old M$ OSes on very old boxes are also finding that the brand new peripherals they can buy don't have Win98 device drivers. Linux, OTOH, has the best hardware support of *ANY* OS. Windoze also continues to use the fragile, cumbersome Windoze Registry. Linux doesn't have that either. Windoze has always had Windoze Product Keys; the latest M$ OSes now have Windoze Product Activation and Windoze Genuine DISadvantage (aka remote kill switches controlled by M$). Linux doesn't have ANY of that nonsense. Many people think their ONLY choice is to buy new gear and get a new M$ OS. Largely because of M$'s illegal anti-competitive activities, may folks are not even *aware* that they have OTHER options. Linux is a solution that is available at zero cost --without the M$ gotchas. It works on old gear and you *don't* have to install it to try it. (Linux will **run** from the plastic disk.) Many have found Linux to be a way to give new life to old gear. Others cast off their old boxes (which are then picked up for a song--or even for free-- by Linux guys who restore their usefulness for $0). http://google.com/search?q=Helios-Project+Ken-Starks The point is that folks have choices. The fact that there are zero-cost solutions to problems is also appealing to some. ...and, again, the openness of Free Software is another factor that may be appealing. I had the same problem with Hotmail and 1.1.19. Here's what someone posted that worked for me: Go to about:config. Search for useragent and find general.useragent.extra.seamonkey. Right-click on it, choose Modify, and add the text NOT Firefox/3.6.8 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Can't Get Hotmail
JeffM wrote: David E. Ross wrote: My wife uses SeaMonkey 1.1.19. Her old PC does not have the capacity for Windows XP, so she still uses Windows 98. However, her PC is starting to get cranky; Can you narrow it down to the hardware or the software? (Tried to boot to a Linux CD?) so I think I might get her a new one before the end of the year. Maybe all you need to do is to dump M$ and install a proper OS. http://google.com/search?q=MEPIS+antiX+%22+Windows.98%22+-xp+-filetransitnum=20 Who is paying you to stress people using linux ? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Can't Get Hotmail
Ray_Net wrote: Who is paying you to stress people using linux ? It's called sharing. As the user of a Free Software online suite, you should be familiar with the concept. People who mention a 12-year-old M$ OS (which is always running as root) often have experienced being pwned by a drive-by infection or borking their OS by deleting system files. There are numerous Free Software distros which will work on gear of that vintage and which don't have those problems. People who run those very old M$ OSes on very old boxes are also finding that the brand new peripherals they can buy don't have Win98 device drivers. Linux, OTOH, has the best hardware support of *ANY* OS. Windoze also continues to use the fragile, cumbersome Windoze Registry. Linux doesn't have that either. Windoze has always had Windoze Product Keys; the latest M$ OSes now have Windoze Product Activation and Windoze Genuine DISadvantage (aka remote kill switches controlled by M$). Linux doesn't have ANY of that nonsense. Many people think their ONLY choice is to buy new gear and get a new M$ OS. Largely because of M$'s illegal anti-competitive activities, may folks are not even *aware* that they have OTHER options. Linux is a solution that is available at zero cost --without the M$ gotchas. It works on old gear and you *don't* have to install it to try it. (Linux will **run** from the plastic disk.) Many have found Linux to be a way to give new life to old gear. Others cast off their old boxes (which are then picked up for a song--or even for free-- by Linux guys who restore their usefulness for $0). http://google.com/search?q=Helios-Project+Ken-Starks The point is that folks have choices. The fact that there are zero-cost solutions to problems is also appealing to some. ...and, again, the openness of Free Software is another factor that may be appealing. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Can't Get Hotmail
I have been trying to check my Hotmail account via the Web. When I go to http://www.hotmail.com/, all I see is a blank page. I've tried spoofing Firefox. I've tried safe mode. I've tried viewing all images (instead of images only from the same domain). I've tried disabiling Ad-Block Plus. None of this helps. I've also tried using IE 7. About three lines of text show, too briefly to make out what they are saying. Then I get a blank screen. Does anyone know what is happening? -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/. Anyone who thinks government owns a monopoly on inefficient, obstructive bureaucracy has obviously never worked for a large corporation. © 1997 by David E. Ross ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Can't Get Hotmail
On 9/30/10 10:27 AM, David E. Ross wrote: I have been trying to check my Hotmail account via the Web. When I go to http://www.hotmail.com/, all I see is a blank page. I've tried spoofing Firefox. I've tried safe mode. I've tried viewing all images (instead of images only from the same domain). I've tried disabiling Ad-Block Plus. None of this helps. I've also tried using IE 7. About three lines of text show, too briefly to make out what they are saying. Then I get a blank screen. Does anyone know what is happening? My configuration is: Windows XP Home Edition (Service Pack 3) Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.13) Gecko/20100914 SeaMonkey/2.0.8 with Menu, Navigation, Status, and PrefBar bars displayed Cookies for the originating Web site only JavaScript enabled -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/. Anyone who thinks government owns a monopoly on inefficient, obstructive bureaucracy has obviously never worked for a large corporation. © 1997 by David E. Ross ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Can't Get Hotmail
David E. Ross wrote: I have been trying to check my Hotmail account via the Web. When I go to http://www.hotmail.com/, all I see is a blank page. My wife uses SeaMonkey 1.1.18 (^1) and has a hotmail account. Sometimes she gets a blank page; next time she'll get the login, and that will fail; next time it works perfectly. There might be an hour or two between attempts. Spoofing as IE7 doesn't help. She may sit down at my computer and use Firefox. Same thing... This started several months ago. I blame it all on Microsoft!! ^1 .. and doesn't want me to upgrade it. :-) -- -bts -Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Can't Get Hotmail
On 9/30/10 2:09 PM, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: David E. Ross wrote: I have been trying to check my Hotmail account via the Web. When I go to http://www.hotmail.com/, all I see is a blank page. My wife uses SeaMonkey 1.1.18 (^1) and has a hotmail account. Sometimes she gets a blank page; next time she'll get the login, and that will fail; next time it works perfectly. There might be an hour or two between attempts. Spoofing as IE7 doesn't help. She may sit down at my computer and use Firefox. Same thing... This started several months ago. I blame it all on Microsoft!! ^1 .. and doesn't want me to upgrade it. :-) My wife uses SeaMonkey 1.1.19. Her old PC does not have the capacity for Windows XP, so she still uses Windows 98. However, her PC is starting to get cranky; so I think I might get her a new one before the end of the year. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/. Anyone who thinks government owns a monopoly on inefficient, obstructive bureaucracy has obviously never worked for a large corporation. © 1997 by David E. Ross ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Can't Get Hotmail
David E. Ross wrote: My wife uses SeaMonkey 1.1.19. Her old PC does not have the capacity for Windows XP, so she still uses Windows 98. However, her PC is starting to get cranky; Can you narrow it down to the hardware or the software? (Tried to boot to a Linux CD?) so I think I might get her a new one before the end of the year. Maybe all you need to do is to dump M$ and install a proper OS. http://google.com/search?q=MEPIS+antiX+%22+Windows.98%22+-xp+-filetransitnum=20 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
'Authentication failed' when using POP3 with Hotmail
I've just set up a new Hotmail account and I created the new account in SeaMonkey but all I get is authentication failed. Server is pop3.live.com, port is 995, password is right. What's the problem? TIA -- Malcolm They should know they're the Grateful Dead now. -- Phil ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 'Authentication failed' when using POP3 with Hotmail
What's the problem? The problem is that in the Account Settings, in Server Settings, in the User Name textbox, the username _must_ include @hotmail.com. And then, it works. -- Malcolm They should know they're the Grateful Dead now. -- Phil ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 'Authentication failed' when using POP3 with Hotmail
MalcolmO wrote: I've just set up a new Hotmail account and I created the new account in SeaMonkey but all I get is authentication failed. Server is pop3.live.com, port is 995, password is right. What's the problem? TIA Wiseguy answer: You're using Hotmail!!! Serious answer: Wrong username? Some ISPs want to see the fully qualified email address, some want the prefix only. Are you giving this one what it wants? -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Trouble with hotmail page
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Tom Pamin wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Tom Pamin wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Try adding the string NOT Firefox 3.6.8 to your useragent setting. Can someone explain how to change the useragent setting? Do you need PrefBar to do this? Are you familiar with about:config ? Go there, search for: useragent and find general.useragent.extra.seamonkey Right-click on it, choose Modify, and add the text NOT Firefox 3.6.8 at the end of the string. No, you don't need the PrefBar for that, but there are many other nice features of that extension -- including the UA spoofing. You can even add more UA strings if you wish. From Customize, select Useragent then click the Edit button in the middle of the two panels. Add/edit at will. Does this change affect anything else? No. Test your efforts here if you like: http://tekrider.net/general/tektest.php Is this how the line should look, with a space after the 9? SeaMonkey/1.1.19 NOT Firefox 3.6.8 Yes, that looks good. You could add a slash between the word Firefox and the version number (which I should have included above). NOT Firefox/3.6.8 I changed it to that, but the Hotmail page still doesn't work. Try clearing cookies for hotmail. Maybe they implant something in a cookie about your browser. I've tried it with my 1.1.17 and it works. My wife uses SeaMonkey and has a hotmail account. Also, what should show up on the tekrider page? Mine says this: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.22) Gecko/20090605 SeaMonkey/1.1.17 NOT Firefox/3.6.8 (Ubuntu-1.1.17+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.04.1) The code on my page just reads the UA string, same as all those other web sites do, trying to determine your browser. Obviously, it will vary depending on versions and operating system, but will be very similar. Thanks - that worked! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Trouble with hotmail page
Tom Pamin wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: [SeaMonkey/Hotmail/UA string:] Thanks - that worked! Hey hey, glad you got it sorted. Your next mission, should you choose to accept it, is to contact Microsoft and convince them to update the Hotmail website with proper coding practices! [This post will self-destruct in five seconds.] :-) -- -bts -Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Trouble with hotmail page
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Ant wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty typed: [attributes were stripped] Yes, with the recent hotmail/live update they sniff wrongly, and redirect the seamonkey user to their mobile site :( They should sniff for functionality and not for browser-names. I have the same problem. :( Have you tried either of the solutions I mentioned yesterday? Yes for Prefbar, but we shouldn't be changing our User Agent. Oh, I agree with that. g However, if you want your hotmail mail, you may have to take some 'extraordinary' steps. After all, it is Microsoft (the Home of Internet Explorer) you're dealing with. I posted our issue in http://www.windowslivehelp.com/thread.aspx?threadid=3a053e16-fcfe-4396-a2b4-04bd3db0585f Ok, let's see what kind of responses you get. I also saw a couple of other people's posts and support replied that SeaMonkey is unsupported which is bad: [delete dupe link of above] http://windowslivehelp.com/thread.aspx?threadid=abc463ef-70c4-4cf5-bd8c-ea76b2268e96 Not much help there. However, the current version of Firefox DOES support the new Hotmail. That's a misplaced statement; it should read the current version of Hotmail refuses Firefox older than 3.0. and refuses SeaMonkey, and refuses every browser except a select few... you get the picture. All it would take would be for a Microsoftie to add a few more strings to the sniffer JavaScript. Should take five minutes .. *if* you could find a responsible person in Redmond. It's like you calling up your ISP asking for email config help with SeaMonkey or Thunderbird or Eudora or ... you get the stock answer we only support Outlook Express or Windows Live Mail. But naturally, any email client will work .. they just don't have scripts for them. We need to fight them to support SM v2! ..or support no specific browser; use 'em all! Try adding the string NOT Firefox 3.6.8 to your useragent setting. Can someone explain how to change the useragent setting? Do you need PrefBar to do this? Does this change affect anything else? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Trouble with hotmail page
Tom Pamin wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Try adding the string NOT Firefox 3.6.8 to your useragent setting. Can someone explain how to change the useragent setting? Do you need PrefBar to do this? Are you familiar with about:config ? Go there, search for: useragent and find general.useragent.extra.seamonkey Right-click on it, choose Modify, and add the text NOT Firefox 3.6.8 at the end of the string. No, you don't need the PrefBar for that, but there are many other nice features of that extension -- including the UA spoofing. You can even add more UA strings if you wish. From Customize, select Useragent then click the Edit button in the middle of the two panels. Add/edit at will. Does this change affect anything else? No. Test your efforts here if you like: http://tekrider.net/general/tektest.php -- -bts -Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Trouble with hotmail page
On 8/16/2010 9:56 AM PT, Beauregard T. Shagnasty typed: I posted our issue in http://www.windowslivehelp.com/thread.aspx?threadid=3a053e16-fcfe-4396-a2b4-04bd3db0585f Ok, let's see what kind of responses you get. Nothing so far as I expected. :( I also saw a couple of other people's posts and support replied that SeaMonkey is unsupported which is bad: [delete dupe link of above] http://windowslivehelp.com/thread.aspx?threadid=abc463ef-70c4-4cf5-bd8c-ea76b2268e96 Not much help there. However, the current version of Firefox DOES support the new Hotmail. That's a misplaced statement; it should read the current version of Hotmail refuses Firefox older than 3.0. and refuses SeaMonkey, and refuses every browser except a select few... you get the picture. All it would take would be for a Microsoftie to add a few more strings to the sniffer JavaScript. Should take five minutes .. *if* you could find a responsible person in Redmond. No kidding. I see this all the time with a lot of Web sites. I have to refer them to http://www.rossde.com/internet/Webdevelopers.html#sniff that David E. Ross shared on 6/27/2010 in this newsgroup. I actually sent one to ranker.com's web team since they said they didn't support SeaMonkey v2. It's like you calling up your ISP asking for email config help with SeaMonkey or Thunderbird or Eudora or ... you get the stock answer we only support Outlook Express or Windows Live Mail. But naturally, any email client will work .. they just don't have scripts for them. We need to fight them to support SM v2! ..or support no specific browser; use 'em all! Try adding the string NOT Firefox 3.6.8 to your useragent setting. Haha. Clever. -- An anthill increases by accumulation. / Medicine is consumed by distribution. / That which is feared lessens by association. / This is the thing to understand. --Siddha Nagarjuna /\___/\ Phil./Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Trouble with hotmail page
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Tom Pamin wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Try adding the string NOT Firefox 3.6.8 to your useragent setting. Can someone explain how to change the useragent setting? Do you need PrefBar to do this? Are you familiar with about:config ? Go there, search for: useragent and find general.useragent.extra.seamonkey Right-click on it, choose Modify, and add the text NOT Firefox 3.6.8 at the end of the string. No, you don't need the PrefBar for that, but there are many other nice features of that extension -- including the UA spoofing. You can even add more UA strings if you wish. From Customize, select Useragent then click the Edit button in the middle of the two panels. Add/edit at will. Does this change affect anything else? No. Test your efforts here if you like: http://tekrider.net/general/tektest.php Is this how the line should look, with a space after the 9? SeaMonkey/1.1.19 NOT Firefox 3.6.8 I changed it to that, but the Hotmail page still doesn't work. Also, what should show up on the tekrider page? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Trouble with hotmail page
Tom Pamin wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Tom Pamin wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Try adding the string NOT Firefox 3.6.8 to your useragent setting. Can someone explain how to change the useragent setting? Do you need PrefBar to do this? Are you familiar with about:config ? Go there, search for: useragent and find general.useragent.extra.seamonkey Right-click on it, choose Modify, and add the text NOT Firefox 3.6.8 at the end of the string. No, you don't need the PrefBar for that, but there are many other nice features of that extension -- including the UA spoofing. You can even add more UA strings if you wish. From Customize, select Useragent then click the Edit button in the middle of the two panels. Add/edit at will. Does this change affect anything else? No. Test your efforts here if you like: http://tekrider.net/general/tektest.php Is this how the line should look, with a space after the 9? SeaMonkey/1.1.19 NOT Firefox 3.6.8 Yes, that looks good. You could add a slash between the word Firefox and the version number (which I should have included above). NOT Firefox/3.6.8 I changed it to that, but the Hotmail page still doesn't work. Try clearing cookies for hotmail. Maybe they implant something in a cookie about your browser. I've tried it with my 1.1.17 and it works. My wife uses SeaMonkey and has a hotmail account. Also, what should show up on the tekrider page? Mine says this: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.22) Gecko/20090605 SeaMonkey/1.1.17 NOT Firefox/3.6.8 (Ubuntu-1.1.17+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.04.1) The code on my page just reads the UA string, same as all those other web sites do, trying to determine your browser. Obviously, it will vary depending on versions and operating system, but will be very similar. -- -bts -Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Trouble with hotmail page
FMurtz wrote: When I try to open hotmail in sea monkey it puts my email list down the left of the page in big letters.The page looks nothing like my old hotmail page that I am used to. The only way to get this old page I am used to is to type www.hotmail.com again in the url space and it sometimes opens up like it used to. (mostly not) In case posters can not understand my wafflings, I post two pictures of my screen,the first is the unwanted new one that keeps coming up, the second is the page that I am used to.How can I stop the new one coming up all the time? IE usually opens hotmail as sea monkey used to Sea monkey opens up like the first screen photo and I don't want this. Do I have to use IE for hotmail to get around this? http://picasaweb.google.com/FMurtz9/Hotmail?authkey=Gv1sRgCISJpJL83KDIdAfeat=directlink Yes, with the recent hotmail/live update they sniff wrongly, and redirect the seamonkey user to their mobile site :( They should sniff for functionality and not for browser-names. Mark ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Trouble with hotmail page
Tom Pamin wrote: Does PrefBar work with SM 1.1.19? Yes. -- -bts -Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Trouble with hotmail page
On 8/16/2010 2:21 AM PT, M van Ketel typed: When I try to open hotmail in sea monkey it puts my email list down the left of the page in big letters.The page looks nothing like my old hotmail page that I am used to. The only way to get this old page I am used to is to type www.hotmail.com again in the url space and it sometimes opens up like it used to. (mostly not) In case posters can not understand my wafflings, I post two pictures of my screen,the first is the unwanted new one that keeps coming up, the second is the page that I am used to.How can I stop the new one coming up all the time? IE usually opens hotmail as sea monkey used to Sea monkey opens up like the first screen photo and I don't want this. Do I have to use IE for hotmail to get around this? http://picasaweb.google.com/FMurtz9/Hotmail?authkey=Gv1sRgCISJpJL83KDIdAfeat=directlink Yes, with the recent hotmail/live update they sniff wrongly, and redirect the seamonkey user to their mobile site :( They should sniff for functionality and not for browser-names. I have the same problem. :( -- When an ant gets wings, it loses its head. --Bosnian Proverb /\___/\ Phil./Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Trouble with hotmail page
Ant wrote: On 8/16/2010 2:21 AM PT, M van Ketel typed: Yes, with the recent hotmail/live update they sniff wrongly, and redirect the seamonkey user to their mobile site :( They should sniff for functionality and not for browser-names. I have the same problem. :( Have you tried either of the solutions I mentioned yesterday? -- -bts -Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Trouble with hotmail page
On 8/16/2010 6:28 AM PT, Beauregard T. Shagnasty typed: Yes, with the recent hotmail/live update they sniff wrongly, and redirect the seamonkey user to their mobile site :( They should sniff for functionality and not for browser-names. I have the same problem. :( Have you tried either of the solutions I mentioned yesterday? Yes for Prefbar, but we shouldn't be changing our User Agent. I posted our issue in http://www.windowslivehelp.com/thread.aspx?threadid=3a053e16-fcfe-4396-a2b4-04bd3db0585f I also saw a couple of other people's posts and support replied that SeaMonkey is unsupported which is bad: http://www.windowslivehelp.com/thread.aspx?threadid=3a053e16-fcfe-4396-a2b4-04bd3db0585f http://windowslivehelp.com/thread.aspx?threadid=abc463ef-70c4-4cf5-bd8c-ea76b2268e96 We need to fight them to support SM v2! -- Not all ants use violence to dominate their world, some use more subtle methods... --E.O. Wilson on NOVA /\___/\ Phil./Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Trouble with hotmail page
FMurtz a écrit : Do I have to use IE for hotmail to get around this? Why don't you configure your Hotmail account in SeaMonkey Mail rather than going through the online interface? S. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Trouble with hotmail page
Ant wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty typed: [attributes were stripped] Yes, with the recent hotmail/live update they sniff wrongly, and redirect the seamonkey user to their mobile site :( They should sniff for functionality and not for browser-names. I have the same problem. :( Have you tried either of the solutions I mentioned yesterday? Yes for Prefbar, but we shouldn't be changing our User Agent. Oh, I agree with that. g However, if you want your hotmail mail, you may have to take some 'extraordinary' steps. After all, it is Microsoft (the Home of Internet Explorer) you're dealing with. I posted our issue in http://www.windowslivehelp.com/thread.aspx?threadid=3a053e16-fcfe-4396-a2b4-04bd3db0585f Ok, let's see what kind of responses you get. I also saw a couple of other people's posts and support replied that SeaMonkey is unsupported which is bad: [delete dupe link of above] http://windowslivehelp.com/thread.aspx?threadid=abc463ef-70c4-4cf5-bd8c-ea76b2268e96 Not much help there. However, the current version of Firefox DOES support the new Hotmail. That's a misplaced statement; it should read the current version of Hotmail refuses Firefox older than 3.0. and refuses SeaMonkey, and refuses every browser except a select few... you get the picture. All it would take would be for a Microsoftie to add a few more strings to the sniffer JavaScript. Should take five minutes .. *if* you could find a responsible person in Redmond. It's like you calling up your ISP asking for email config help with SeaMonkey or Thunderbird or Eudora or ... you get the stock answer we only support Outlook Express or Windows Live Mail. But naturally, any email client will work .. they just don't have scripts for them. We need to fight them to support SM v2! ..or support no specific browser; use 'em all! Try adding the string NOT Firefox 3.6.8 to your useragent setting. -- -bts -Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Trouble with hotmail page
When I try to open hotmail in sea monkey it puts my email list down the left of the page in big letters.The page looks nothing like my old hotmail page that I am used to. The only way to get this old page I am used to is to type www.hotmail.com again in the url space and it sometimes opens up like it used to. (mostly not) In case posters can not understand my wafflings, I post two pictures of my screen,the first is the unwanted new one that keeps coming up, the second is the page that I am used to.How can I stop the new one coming up all the time? IE usually opens hotmail as sea monkey used to Sea monkey opens up like the first screen photo and I don't want this. Do I have to use IE for hotmail to get around this? http://picasaweb.google.com/FMurtz9/Hotmail?authkey=Gv1sRgCISJpJL83KDIdAfeat=directlink ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Trouble with hotmail page
FMurtz wrote: When I try to open hotmail in sea monkey it puts my email list down the left of the page in big letters.The page looks nothing like my old hotmail page that I am used to. The only way to get this old page I am used to is to type www.hotmail.com again in the url space and it sometimes opens up like it used to. (mostly not) In case posters can not understand my wafflings, I post two pictures of my screen,the first is the unwanted new one that keeps coming up, the second is the page that I am used to.How can I stop the new one coming up all the time? IE usually opens hotmail as sea monkey used to Sea monkey opens up like the first screen photo and I don't want this. Do I have to use IE for hotmail to get around this? http://picasaweb.google.com/FMurtz9/Hotmail?authkey=Gv1sRgCISJpJL83KDIdAfeat=directlink I have this same problem. I posted it a couple weeks ago and no one responded. Just another Microsoft change for the worse. I don't see any fix for it. What I finally did was put a shortcut for IE on my desktop, and I use that only for Hotmail. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Trouble with hotmail page
FMurtz wrote: When I try to open hotmail in sea monkey it puts my email list down the left of the page in big letters.The page looks nothing like my old hotmail page that I am used to. The only way to get this old page I am used to is to type www.hotmail.com again in the url space and it sometimes opens up like it used to. (mostly not) It's Microsoft's new browser sniffer. SeaMonkey is not one of their choices, so various parts of the page do not get loaded, including the CSS that lays out the pages. In case posters can not understand my wafflings, I post two pictures of my screen,the first is the unwanted new one that keeps coming up, the second is the page that I am used to.How can I stop the new one coming up all the time? IE usually opens hotmail as sea monkey used to Sea monkey opens up like the first screen photo and I don't want this. Do I have to use IE for hotmail to get around this? No, but you can do one of two things. 1. Use the PrefBar extension to change your UA string. 2. Change your UA string to include the words NOT Firefox I don't have the latest version around, so don't know exactly where that is ... -- -bts -Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Trouble with hotmail page
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: FMurtz wrote: When I try to open hotmail in sea monkey it puts my email list down the left of the page in big letters.The page looks nothing like my old hotmail page that I am used to. The only way to get this old page I am used to is to type www.hotmail.com again in the url space and it sometimes opens up like it used to. (mostly not) It's Microsoft's new browser sniffer. SeaMonkey is not one of their choices, so various parts of the page do not get loaded, including the CSS that lays out the pages. In case posters can not understand my wafflings, I post two pictures of my screen,the first is the unwanted new one that keeps coming up, the second is the page that I am used to.How can I stop the new one coming up all the time? IE usually opens hotmail as sea monkey used to Sea monkey opens up like the first screen photo and I don't want this. Do I have to use IE for hotmail to get around this? No, but you can do one of two things. 1. Use the PrefBar extension to change your UA string. 2. Change your UA string to include the words NOT Firefox I don't have the latest version around, so don't know exactly where that is ... I posted it in three different places including hotmail itself and got no sensible answers,this NG is the only one that seem to even acknowledge that the problem exists. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Trouble with hotmail page
FMurtz wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: FMurtz wrote: When I try to open hotmail in sea monkey it puts my email list down the left of the page in big letters.The page looks nothing like my old hotmail page that I am used to. The only way to get this old page I am used to is to type www.hotmail.com again in the url space and it sometimes opens up like it used to. (mostly not) It's Microsoft's new browser sniffer. SeaMonkey is not one of their choices, so various parts of the page do not get loaded, including the CSS that lays out the pages. In case posters can not understand my wafflings, I post two pictures of my screen,the first is the unwanted new one that keeps coming up, the second is the page that I am used to.How can I stop the new one coming up all the time? IE usually opens hotmail as sea monkey used to Sea monkey opens up like the first screen photo and I don't want this. Do I have to use IE for hotmail to get around this? No, but you can do one of two things. 1. Use the PrefBar extension to change your UA string. 2. Change your UA string to include the words NOT Firefox I don't have the latest version around, so don't know exactly where that is ... I posted it in three different places including hotmail itself and got no sensible answers,this NG is the only one that seem to even acknowledge that the problem exists. It is a problem, but not just a Microsoft problem. Way too many sites with clueless authors test only with major browsers, and include code (usually JavaScript) to see which one you are using. Typically, they test for Internet Explorer (possibly by version), Firefox, Safari, maybe Opera. SeaMonkey is not a common browser and is overlooked, so you don't get some or all of the page. With well-written pages, it is only necessary to test for Internet Explorer, and add code to fix up certain problems only that browser has. The PrefBar I mentioned is available here: http://prefbar.mozdev.org/ -- -bts -Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Trouble with hotmail page
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: FMurtz wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: FMurtz wrote: When I try to open hotmail in sea monkey it puts my email list down the left of the page in big letters.The page looks nothing like my old hotmail page that I am used to. The only way to get this old page I am used to is to type www.hotmail.com again in the url space and it sometimes opens up like it used to. (mostly not) It's Microsoft's new browser sniffer. SeaMonkey is not one of their choices, so various parts of the page do not get loaded, including the CSS that lays out the pages. In case posters can not understand my wafflings, I post two pictures of my screen,the first is the unwanted new one that keeps coming up, the second is the page that I am used to.How can I stop the new one coming up all the time? IE usually opens hotmail as sea monkey used to Sea monkey opens up like the first screen photo and I don't want this. Do I have to use IE for hotmail to get around this? No, but you can do one of two things. 1. Use the PrefBar extension to change your UA string. 2. Change your UA string to include the words NOT Firefox I don't have the latest version around, so don't know exactly where that is ... I posted it in three different places including hotmail itself and got no sensible answers,this NG is the only one that seem to even acknowledge that the problem exists. It is a problem, but not just a Microsoft problem. Way too many sites with clueless authors test only with major browsers, and include code (usually JavaScript) to see which one you are using. Typically, they test for Internet Explorer (possibly by version), Firefox, Safari, maybe Opera. SeaMonkey is not a common browser and is overlooked, so you don't get some or all of the page. With well-written pages, it is only necessary to test for Internet Explorer, and add code to fix up certain problems only that browser has. The PrefBar I mentioned is available here: http://prefbar.mozdev.org/ I've seen the same problem and Prefbar works great. Sometimes Hotmail doesn't need a spoofed UA but when it happens, I change to a IE8 UA and get the page loaded. then do a reload page with real UA and it's there. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
New Version of Hotmail Unuseable
Microsoft just updated Hotmail, and now it no longer works in SM 1.1.19. Only a few headings show up and it's just not useable. Can anyone tell me if it works in SM 2.x? You have to compare with how it shows up in IE to see the difference. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SM bug in Hotmail
I'm having a problem in Hotmail with SM 1.1.16 I can't lower or raise the preview panel divider, I checked with another browser and it worked fine but I'd rather use SM, any help appreciated, Thanks ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM bug in Hotmail
On 6/17/2009 9:57 AM, zvn[]teq[7] wrote: I'm having a problem in Hotmail with SM 1.1.16 I can't lower or raise the preview panel divider, I checked with another browser and it worked fine but I'd rather use SM, any help appreciated, Thanks There are a number of Hotmail bugs caused by invalid user-agent sniffing. See the following: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=396259 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=457791 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=464074 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=471184 If you can communicate with anyone at Hotmail who understands what they are doing and cares about customers, you might communicate these to that person. In the meantime, if you spoof Firefox, do so with a user-agent string that includes SeaMonkey as in the following (which I use): Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.21) Gecko/20090403 SeaMonkey/1.1.16, NOT Firefox/2.0.0.20 This way, we can prove that SeaMonkey is actually being used when some Web master claims they have no SeaMonkey users. Also, only spoof Firefox when needed; that way, the use of SeaMonkey will be noted by those who track user-agent strings. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Hotmail
journeynt...@hotmail.com wrote: Seamonkey will not let me compose a new email from my hotmail or yahoo acct's. That being said, this thing is the fastest out of 3 other browsers I have ! Please help if you can, Thank You : ) Joe North Sorry! Joe are you saying that the Browser portion of SeaMonkey will not allow you to go to hotmail.com or yahoo.com to compose your emails?? Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Hotmail
Seamonkey will not let me compose a new email from my hotmail or yahoo acct's. That being said, this thing is the fastest out of 3 other browsers I have ! Please help if you can, Thank You : ) Joe North ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using Hotmail with SeaMonkey mail?
Leonidas Jones wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: I was using the Webmail extensions, but they didn't work for me more often then they worked. I though webmail was too complicated. Too much mucking around needed in order for it to work. As well, Freepops works with any installed email client. Lee Thanks Peter and Lee; I'll look into Freepops. Dick ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using Hotmail with SeaMonkey mail?
Dick Hoffman wrote: This email is prompted by an exchange of messages regarding a problem accessing Hotmail with SeaMonkey. Is there a way I can access my Hotmail account with SeaMonkey's mail component, not the browser component? I've blithely assumed I had to get my mail from Hotmail through the browser but is that really true? If it's possible to configure SeaMonkey mail to get my Hotmail messages, what do I need to do to set up the access? Dick it depends. If you live anywhere in the world, except the US, then you can read my thoughts on this: http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/browse_thread/thread/4b393454a68402e9?q=#23e5b41cdae8ade5 or, if you live in the US, then you need a third party proxy/email popper program such as freepops: http://www.freepops.org/en/ -- *IMPORTANT*: Sorry folks, but I cannot provide email help Emails to me may become public Notice: This posting is protected under the Free Speech Laws, which applies everywhere in the FREE world, except for some strange reason, not to the mozilla.org newsgroup servers, where your posting may get you banned. Peter Potamus His Magic Flying Balloon: http://melaman2.com/cartoons/singles/mp3/p-potamus.mp3 http://www.toonopedia.com/potamus.htm ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using Hotmail with SeaMonkey mail?
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Dick Hoffman wrote: This email is prompted by an exchange of messages regarding a problem accessing Hotmail with SeaMonkey. Is there a way I can access my Hotmail account with SeaMonkey's mail component, not the browser component? I've blithely assumed I had to get my mail from Hotmail through the browser but is that really true? If it's possible to configure SeaMonkey mail to get my Hotmail messages, what do I need to do to set up the access? Dick it depends. If you live anywhere in the world, except the US, then you can read my thoughts on this: http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/browse_thread/thread/4b393454a68402e9?q=#23e5b41cdae8ade5 or, if you live in the US, then you need a third party proxy/email popper program such as freepops: http://www.freepops.org/en/ I endorse freepops as well. I was using the Webmail extensions, but they didn't work for me more often then they worked. Freepops has restored function for both Hotmail and Yahoo accounts. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using Hotmail with SeaMonkey mail?
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: I was using the Webmail extensions, but they didn't work for me more often then they worked. I though webmail was too complicated. Too much mucking around needed in order for it to work. As well, Freepops works with any installed email client. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Hotmail problems with Seamonkey
John wrote: Does anyone know how to fix this, other than not using Hotmail? Thanks! Spoofing your web browser as Firefox 2.0.0.19 or appending Firefox/2.0.0.19 to your user agent string should make it work. Bad web browser sniffing is at work. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Hotmail problems with Seamonkey
Benoit Renard wrote: John wrote: Does anyone know how to fix this, other than not using Hotmail? Thanks! Spoofing your web browser as Firefox 2.0.0.19 or appending Firefox/2.0.0.19 to your user agent string should make it work. Bad web browser sniffing is at work. YES! Spoofing as either Firefox 2 or Firefox 3 seems to fix the problem. I wonder why spoofing as IE7 doesn't work? Would there be a way to fix this if I didn't have Prefbar installed? Is there a way to spoof Firefox 2 as the default? If so, would this be a good idea? Thanks again! John -- Q: What's the quickest way to get a mailbox full of spam? A: Post a message in any newsgroup using a real email address. Please reply in this newsgroup. Thank you. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Hotmail problems with Seamonkey
John wrote: . Is there a way to spoof Firefox 2 as the default? ... John type about:config in the URL box. type useragent in the filter box. double-click on the line that shows SM as your user agent edit the entry to include Firefox/2.0 e.g, mine says not Firefox/2.0.0.15 SeaMonkey/1.1.15 GW ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Hotmail problems with Seamonkey
On 3/5/2009 10:35 AM, John wrote: Benoit Renard wrote: John wrote: Does anyone know how to fix this, other than not using Hotmail? Thanks! Spoofing your web browser as Firefox 2.0.0.19 or appending Firefox/2.0.0.19 to your user agent string should make it work. Bad web browser sniffing is at work. YES! Spoofing as either Firefox 2 or Firefox 3 seems to fix the problem. I wonder why spoofing as IE7 doesn't work? Would there be a way to fix this if I didn't have Prefbar installed? Is there a way to spoof Firefox 2 as the default? If so, would this be a good idea? Thanks again! John You have seen an example of bug #396259. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=396259. Permanently spoofing Firefox is a bad idea. It removes any incentive for Web developers to correct invalid sniffing or -- better -- to realize that they shouldn't sniff at all. If you don't want to use the Prefbar extension for temporary spoofing, you might try uabar at https://www.mozdev.org/projects/overview/uabar/ or useragentswitcher at https://www.mozdev.org/projects/overview/useragentswitcher/. Since I use Prefbar, I can't help you with either of these. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Hotmail problems with Seamonkey
I'm using SeaMonkey v1.1.14. I can't get Hotmail to work properly anymore unless I use IE7. Is this something Microsoft has done intentionally? The problem started after a major Hotmail UI upgrade recently. I can read messages, but I can't send any. I can fill in an address and subject, but when I try to move the cursor to the message body and type, nothing happens. I have Prefbar installed, and switching the User Agent to IE 7.0 WinXP from Real UA doesn't help. Does anyone know how to fix this, other than not using Hotmail? Thanks! John -- Q: What's the quickest way to get a mailbox full of spam? A: Post a message in any newsgroup using a real email address. Please reply in this newsgroup. Thank you. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Hotmail problems with Seamonkey
John wrote: I'm using SeaMonkey v1.1.14. I can't get Hotmail to work properly anymore unless I use IE7. Is this something Microsoft has done intentionally? The problem started after a major Hotmail UI upgrade recently. I can read messages, but I can't send any. I can fill in an address and subject, but when I try to move the cursor to the message body and type, nothing happens. I have Prefbar installed, and switching the User Agent to IE 7.0 WinXP from Real UA doesn't help. Does anyone know how to fix this, other than not using Hotmail? Thanks! John I used hotmail yesterday with no problem whatsoever -- *IMPORTANT*: Sorry folks, but I cannot provide email help Emails to me may become public Notice: This posting is protected under the Free Speech Laws, which applies everywhere in the FREE world, except for some strange reason, not to the mozilla.org newsgroup servers, where your posting may get you banned. Peter Potamus His Magic Flying Balloon: http://melaman2.com/cartoons/singles/mp3/p-potamus.mp3 http://www.toonopedia.com/potamus.htm ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Hotmail
To Whom it May Concern, I have the latest Sea Monkey, but it HATES Hotmailcould you please fix? Thank you, Renee Lingk _ Windows Live™: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_allup_howitworks_012009 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Hotmail
Renee Lingk wrote: To Whom it May Concern, I have the latest Sea Monkey, but it HATES Hotmailcould you please fix? Thank you, Renee Lingk for starters, you can read this: news://news.mozilla.org:119/65mdna0mu6y1hu7unz2dnuvz_gadn...@mozilla.org or this: http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/browse_thread/thread/4b393454a68402e9?q=#23e5b41cdae8ade5 or, if you're in the US, then try freepops: http://www.freepops.org/en/ -- *IMPORTANT*: Sorry folks, but I cannot provide email help Emails to me may become public Notice: This posting is protected under the Free Speech Laws, which applies everywhere in the FREE world, except for some strange reason, not to the mozilla.org newsgroup servers, where your posting may get you banned. Peter Potamus His Magic Flying Balloon: http://melaman2.com/cartoons/singles/mp3/p-potamus.mp3 http://www.toonopedia.com/potamus.htm ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Hotmail
On 1/25/2009 4:30 PM, Renee Lingk wrote: To Whom it May Concern, I have the latest Sea Monkey, but it HATES Hotmailcould you please fix? Thank you, Renee Lingk Hotmail is what needs to be repaired, not SeaMonkey. Among other things, the Hotmail server is doing invalid sniffing for a user agent. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: hotmail and SM mail
:Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo You can now receive your hotmail messages using SM mail. Hotmail now has pop3 access. You can now dump FreePops or Webmail, or whatever Pop3 Proxy you're using for hotmail. Furthermore, you can also send messages using a hotmail smtp server. Here are the instructions: [...] For more info, see this: http://windowslivewire.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!2F7EB29B42641D59!32413.entry That's great news. Thanks! -- tom coradeschi tc...@skylands.ibmwr.org ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: hotmail and SM mail
Tom Coradeschi wrote: :Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo You can now receive your hotmail messages using SM mail. Whoa: Big caveat - not yet available in the US... wow, you're right. Never noticed that. Well, there are ways around it. Try and get yourself a proxy from one of those countries, and see if that work. -- *IMPORTANT*: Sorry folks, but I cannot provide email help Emails to me may become public Notice: This posting is protected under the Free Speech Laws, which applies everywhere in the FREE world, except for some strange reason, not to the mozilla.org newsgroup servers, where your posting may get you banned. Peter Potamus His Magic Flying Balloon: http://melaman2.com/cartoons/singles/mp3/p-potamus.mp3 http://www.toonopedia.com/potamus.htm ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: hotmail and SM mail
What a load of crock. Every country surrounding Belgium has it, except Belgium itself! I /still/ can't access the mandatory Hotmail e-mail address I got from school through POP3, though this time the error message changed from inbox not available to user does not have POP3 access. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
