I wrote;
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From: Henri Naths [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 01 April, 2005 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Re: The Energy Crunch To Come
Keith,
I think it is quite irrelevant who sold what to whom, Hypothetically,I
have the all the means at my
Keith,
I'll take two! Ah heck, make it a six pack.
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From: Keith Addisonmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] The Lutec over unity device
Hi Craig
Keith,
Greetings Gustl,
I was under the impression from my reading that viton rubber would be ok in
contact with biodiesel. If I«m wrong about this someone please say so. All
metal is definitely better as I imagine even viton will degrade in a 5 or 10
year time span just due to the heat. As far as the
Hi All,
Any information like this on oil from palm trees? I«m not a fan of soybean
because of Monsanto.
Thanks,
Tom Irwin
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From: Jan Warnqvist
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 1/04/05 5:39
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Re: soybeanoil a bad choice for BD making?
Hello Keith
Hi all,
Wow! Carter gave the green light for that? Remove my humanitarian label
immediately. Maybe it«s the guilt that«s driven him to build all those homes
for humanity.
Tom
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From: Keith Addison
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 1/04/05 11:54
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Re:
entail huge men standing in the doorway to the guys home.threatening to make
the guy disappear if he pursues this technology. surprisingly I have seen
this device before a local guy around here was on the news saying the U.S.
wont give him a patent on the devise. the basic argument people
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From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] The Lutec over unity device
Hi Craig
Keith,
I haven't laughed that hard in the past 74 3/8 hours! Oh well I put a stop
payment on my
thanks for the info. I guess we wil have to buy methanol. We have a home in
Eritrea, in the highlands, and working on a pilot project in the lowlands of
the gash barka region to demonstrate a practical solution to the energy
crisis. Eritrea has banned all personal gasoline and diesel purchases
War has it's causalities. let us not be one of them.
people make themselves victims of situations No need for more casualties.
Sudam and his despots had a mural of 911painted on the side of a building..
people are responsible for there own actions not anybody else. Not you , me
or the U.S.
Greetings all,
If nothing else, well said! There is much we do not know about magnetism in
general. I am facinated by the life of Nicola Tesla. He seems far ahead of
his time. When something goes against what many of us have been taught and
accept as truth we often react critically. As a
Hi All,
Just a quick word of caution about backyard methanol. It definitely is not
ethanol. The direct meaning is it is a deadly toxin than can be readily
absorbed through the skin and inhaled into the lungs. I«m certain a very
small percentage of the population has a very small capacity to
I'm not American but I'm awful proud of what the American soldiers did.You
talk to the average American solider and he knows what he is doing . He's no
dummy. As any solider in any war that puts his life on the line for his/her
country to fight for life and justice and knows that his /her
Hakan
Of course I read your posts. The misunderstanding is all yours this time my
friend, I assure you. However, the one whose English (at least as far as
writing skills go) is so bad, is clearly me.
The first paragraph of that last post was directed to you Hakan. The rest of
that post was
Hi All,
Correct me if I am wrong but I believe President Carter was the only
President to be an engineer. I recall him as having a degree in nuclear
engineering? True? He is also a great humanitarian.
Here's a quote from the World's Finest Navy site:
When Admiral Hyman G. Rickover (then
Living on Earth
April 1, 2005
Tough on Mercury (Dan Gorenstein) / Alien Planets /
Oil National Security (Jeff Young) /
Oil National Security Roundtable /
Emerging Science Note/Parroting Elephants /
Simple Living / Ask Umbra
http://www.loe.org/archives/archives.htm
Oil National
tunnel and it is a train
Andrew Tracey wrote:
I might be mistaken and probably are but it appears to me that now mr wolfowitz has his
hands on a bottomless pit of money that he is going to give his buddy ALL THAT IT
TAKES to get rid of the baddies. When is the next election in the U.S.?
No. We've been discussing this since the list was founded five years ago,
but nobody's found a solution yet. Dr Tom Reed, who probably knows more
about methanol than most, told me we just aren't there yet.
Tom's knowledge of the field is such that when one finds
themselves in
Robert,
I did not misunderstood, I earlier said that after
this election the argument of that he was not
representative for US is not valid. This is what
democracy is all about. He is elected now and
he represent USA.
Sigh. . . On this we agree.
The ones who do not agree
should
Thankyou!
This was the point I was trying to make: ... you will reduce
polymerization. But not eliminate it.
... the time to reach a specified degree of polymerization will be
extended by dilution. But it still won't be eliminated.
Thanks again.
Best wishes
Keith
Howdy Kieth and Jan
Hello Keith,
Thank you for your interest in my post. I like to find the stories
behind societal beliefs like this that have so often been accepted without
question.
It's MOST important to do that, IMO. We rely on the 4th Estate (of
which I'm a lifelong member) to do that for us, that's
do I sign..:-)
:-)
Sign on the cheque Malcolm, in the usual way, don't forget to add the
right number of noughts.
Best
Keith
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Keith Addison
Sent: 01 April 2005 20:43
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Keith Addison wrote:
Hello Robert
Thanks for this, nice read!
You're welcome. I thought things were sounding a bit grim on
this forum lately!
Too much reality? It does tend to be a bit grim at times.
Equisetum arvense?
Yes, that's the one. It's toxic to colts and lambs when
War has it's causalities. let us not be one of them.
You are already, as I said.
people make themselves victims of situations No need for more casualties.
Sudam and his despots had a mural of 911painted on the side of a building..
So? You're saying he did it? Are you insisting against
Any information like this on oil from palm trees?
I can see it's useless telling you this, but the archives is full of it.
Keith
I«m not a fan of soybean
because of Monsanto.
Thanks,
Tom Irwin
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From: Jan Warnqvist
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 1/04/05 5:39
I'll take two! Ah heck, make it a six pack.
Okay, Craig, 20% discount on sixpacks, that's $5,000, cheap at half the price.
Keith
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From: Keith Addisonmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 12:42
I wonder what he's talking about...
Keith
I wrote;
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 01 April, 2005 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Re: The Energy Crunch To Come
Keith,
I think it is quite irrelevant who sold what to whom,
Convenience plus, no more black outs, brown outs, interruptions because
of line maintenance, lightning strike, heavy rain, strong wind, fire,
cyclone, flood, poor maintenance at power stations.
Even if it doesnt provide free energy, this suggests that the magnetic
fields inside the device
Hello Tom.
Are you referring to palm oil ? This is a highly saturated oil common in
Europe as frying oil. The oil is imported from Malaysia. Is it this one ?
Bst rgrds
Jan Warnqvist
AGERATEC AB
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+ 46 554 201 89
+46 70 499 38 45
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From: Tom Irwin
Hello TLC.
The main idea with hydrogenation is to alter the IV value of an oil. The
answer is yes.
Jan Warnqvist
AGERATEC AB
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+ 46 554 201 89
+46 70 499 38 45
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From: TLC Orchids and Such [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, April
Henri,
Do not be so certain you that you will be free to make Bio D forever as a
private citizen. You can«t make your own opium to treat your pain. You can«t
buy large amounts of ammonium nitrate fertilizer (which is maybe a good
thing) without filing extensive paperwork. I am quite serious when
Hi Bob,
I like the us and ss for those uninitiated. But my question is at high
temperature, like that found near or in a diesel engine, will the us be
able to find those other us more easily and thus have a polymerization
reaction anyway?
Tom
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From: bob allen
To:
Hi All,
I would love to believe but truth be told I no longer have faith and trust
in my own government. I have been lied to too often. Should these folks
continue to push for implimentation of sound programs then and only then
will they receive my full support.
Tom
-Original
Hi you fine people
I read a lot about IV and have not been able to figure out what it is.
I'm new to all this.
Would someone PLEASE help me out here?
Thanks
Roy
TLC Orchids and Such [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hydrogenated canola has an IV of around 65 while non hydrogenated has an IV
of around
Hallo Tom,
I am not the one to ask about rubber and biodiesel. It is my
impression that the two get along fine although they have a bad
reputation to the contrary but I don't know that as fact. I just put
the rubber bit in there in case someone had concerns about biodiesel
Yeah, that's right, she does all the work, or most of it - she's the
one who's learning, it's the only way.
I should say Midori does most of the gardening and farm work, but
that's by no means all the work there is around here - there's also
all the biofuel work (and not just making the
I read a lot about IV and have not been able to figure out what it is.
I'm new to all this.
Would someone PLEASE help me out here?
Thanks
Roy
Hello Roy
I gave you this before:
Start here:
Where do I start?
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make.html#start
That's on this page:
Tomas, here's what I found about them:
http://www.betterhumans.com/News/news.aspx?articleID=2005-04-01-3
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From: Tom Irwin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 1:44 PM
Subject: RE: [Biofuel] New Crop of batteries
Tomas,
I am not as
Thanks Keith
I remember you giving me all this BUT I never made the connection betweem IV
and IODINE VALUE. I GOT IT NOW Slow but Sure me.
Thanks again
~BEST~
Roy
Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi you fine people
I read a lot about IV and have not been able to figure out what it
Helow All
Fransico
Well we in north east of Brasil.
A lot of castor oil is produces here and other place , but the e
first time we hear the odour problems which can be esily solved
You can solve the problem using different hot and cold
extraction process which are under
IVIodine Value
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From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 7:50 AM
Subject: [Biofuel] Re: soybeanoil a bad choice for BD making?
Hi you fine people
I read a lot about IV and have not been able to figure out
Sorry, but I live in Texas and your English is so much better than the
average of what I hear, that you must be a foreigner grin
Bright Blessings,
Kim
At 06:34 PM 4/1/2005, you wrote:
Thanks anyway, because I thought that my English is
so bad, that it exclude the possibility that I was
Thank you Jan for your reply.
Does anyone know the IV of Hydrogenated soybean oil? and does this affect
whether or not it polymerizes?
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From: Jan Warnqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 4:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Re:
over unity is certainly a name that will give Lutec
a lot of grief. It's a little like saying the Lutec
magic device. Claims about using the Earths EM field
for power generation has been around for a while. They
are often called Methernitha generators, named after
the Swiss society who were one
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From: Henri Naths [EMAIL PROTECTED]
would you rather have some rogue government agent throw you in jail for
being a security threat
You mean like Jan Lentz, Suni Haught, and Mauricio Rosas? Three senior
citizens arrested at a Bush rally in Tampa on July 4,
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From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
We rely on the 4th Estate (of which I'm a lifelong member) to do that for
us, that's their role and essential function, but (though the exceptions are
many and honorable) there's no need for me to say how derelict they've
Thank You
TLC Orchids and Such [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:IV Iodine Value
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From: Keith Addison
To:
Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 7:50 AM
Subject: [Biofuel] Re: soybeanoil a bad choice for BD making?
Hi you fine people
I read a lot about IV and have not been
Hi All,
Just a quick word of caution about backyard methanol.
There's no such thing, as yet. You can't make methanol in your
backyard, as both Walt and I have just explained. You can distill
ethanol, and it will have minute amounts of methanol in the first bit
which you discard. But you
carbon double bonds, so the amount of Iodine absorbed is a
direct measure of the number of double bonds. Hydrogenation
removes the double bonds. Complete hydrogenation will
remove all double bonds hence the Iodine value should be
essentially zero.
TLC Orchids and Such wrote:
The presidential election is in four years but the off election for
congress is in two years and there will be a chance to weaken the
Republican power in the congress at that time. It gives us something to
work for anyway.
I suspect the role of Wolfowitz will be to assist international
in temperature results in a doubling of a reaction rate. So
the short answer is yes, but with the caveat: You really
don't need to worry about a polymerization reaction
occurring in an injector or hot engine part that it would
interfere with the operation of the engine.
Tom Irwin wrote:
We took out Hitler because Germany declared war on us after Japan
attacked us at Pearl Harbor. Sadam did not declare war on us and
presented no immediate threat. In the long run he was a danger to US
and European oil interests in that he was determined to get control of
the Arabian
Let's put in some of the rest of it, because you've provided a good
example of it.
Joanne said:
Thank you for your interest in my post. I like to find the stories
behind societal beliefs like this that have so often been accepted without
question.
And I replied:
It's MOST important to
I had the opportunity to see this video on Thursday evening. (Part of the
program
for how Ottawa should deal with the consequences of Peak Oil.
Clearly a low-budget production, but it covered the topic well. Few surprises
for
those on this list, I expect. Set the context of the different
My last post got me thinking that The Corporation video is also available on
the
Internet now, if anyone is interested. Superb complement to the book, for
those
that have read it. Clearly Bakan and company knew what would work in print,
and
what would work in video, and used both to
SVO, not biodiesel:
The use of drying oils or sem-drying - with linseed and tung being
the most drying (although few would use them in a diesel engine,
given how much more expensive they are that WVO frying oils) and
walnut and soy being less so - is reported to cause polymerization
of lube
I am not the one to ask about rubber and biodiesel. It is my
impression that the two get along fine although they have a bad
reputation to the contrary but I don't know that as fact. I just put
the rubber bit in there in case someone had concerns about biodiesel
and
Hello Bob and thank you for your input.
There should also be pointed out that polymerization may take place in the
fuel tank of the vehicle, at least to some extent, since many diesels have
leak fuel lines transporting hot fuel to the tank, so the temperature in the
tank will rise in proportion
What sealed Saddam's fate was him converting to the Euro as Iraq's Oil
Reserve Currency in November 2000. UN weapons inspectors were inside Iraq
and about to certify Iraq as WMD-Free. Since 97% of all his WMD's were
destroyed in the first weapons inspections before the inspectors were
ordered
Dan Rather certainly made the same point on British TV when he talked about
being necklaced if he reported the truth about the bogus rush to war in
Iraq. It was a confession that Americans did not see on the corporate
controlled TV stations here in the States.
BBC NEWS | Business |
1 April, 2005, 21:50 GMT 22:50 UK
Oil prices surge to new records
Oil traders say the ratio of global supply to demand is tight
Crude oil prices hit record levels on Friday, with leading investment
bank Goldman Sachs warning the cost of a barrel could eventually top
(washingtonpost.com)
World Bank Board Approves Wolfowitz
By Paul Blustein
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, March 31, 2005; 3:00 PM
The board of the World Bank unanimously approved Paul D. Wolfowitz
today as the bank's next president, heralding a new era of
conservative influence over
FT.com / International Economy /
Most of the EU cast miss Wolfowitz 'audition'
By Raphael Minder in Brussels
Published: March 30 2005 19:18 | Last updated: March 30 2005 19:18
Paul Wolfowitz, the US nominee to head the World Bank, on Wednesday
gave what one minister described as a positive
Martin Jacques
Thursday 9:28 AM
By placing John Bolton at the United Nations and Paul Wolfowitz at
the World Bank, the neocons are extending their influence into the
architecture of the international order. Martin Jacques challenges
Europeans on their reluctance to stand up for an
U.S. Obstructs Global Justice
By Jonathan F. Fanton
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-fanton29mar29,0,4
400554,print.story
03/29/05 Los Angeles Times - - When a United Nations commission of
inquiry recommended this year that gross human rights abuses in
Darfur be
In These Times
Wake Up!
Washington's alarming foreign policy
By Chalmers Johnson
The Sorrows of Empire : Militarism, Secrecy, and the End of the
Republic [The American Empire Project]
By Chalmers Johnson
Metropolitan Books á $25.00
The Rubicon is a small stream in northern Italy just
Published on Friday, April 1, 2005 by the Akron Beacon Journal / Ohio
Analysis Points to Election 'Corruption'
Group Says Chance of Exit Polls Being So Wrong in '04 Vote is One-in-959,000
by Stephen Dyer
There's a one-in-959,000 chance that exit polls could have been so
wrong in predicting
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article8421.htm
The good news about terrorism
Paul Robinson
04/02/05 The Spectator - - 'We are facing the gravest threat that
this nation has ever faced.' Elizabeth I, speaking of the Spanish
Armada? Winston Churchill, in the aftermath of Dunkirk?
Thanks for this, it helps put the previous discussion in perspective.
About Ruppert, see below for Sheldon Rampton's view, with which I
agree (the guy's nuts):
http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/35514/
The unfortunate thing is that there are people out there who take
Ruppert seriously,
Dan Rather certainly made the same point on British TV when he talked about
being necklaced if he reported the truth about the bogus rush to war in
Iraq. It was a confession that Americans did not see on the corporate
controlled TV stations here in the States.
Looking for reliable answers to:
In the USA, does a co-op making bioD have to register with the EPA as
a uel producer?
Can a fleet managing company (like a transit company) be a co-op
member nd not incur the EPA Tier 1 Health Certification
requirements?
Jan,
That is exactly the oil I have in mind. From what I have read it produces
the greatest amount of oil per hectare. Highly saturated is good news. Must
be lots of folks making Bio D from this material, once used. in Europe, yes?
Thanks,
Tom
-Original Message-
From: Jan Warnqvist
Dear Henri and Rick,
I only like to put this we took out Hitler to rest. That the Americans
single handed took out Hitler, is a myth that only exists in Hollywood movies.
The crucial material support from US in WWII was the deliveries of war
material. The US infantry troop participation in
Hello Bob and thank you for your input.
There should also be pointed out that polymerization may take place in the
fuel tank of the vehicle, at least to some extent, since many diesels have
leak fuel lines transporting hot fuel to the tank, so the temperature in the
tank will rise in
Hi All,
They have been using these compost biofilters for quite some time in the
U.S. They tend to have big footprints but really low operating expenses.
They«re used at wastewater treatment plants, MSW compost facilities, and
fish processing plants to name a few. I«m happy to be of whatever
That is exactly the oil I have in mind. From what I have read it produces
the greatest amount of oil per hectare. Highly saturated is good news. Must
be lots of folks making Bio D from this material, once used. in Europe, yes?
No - highly saturated might be good news as far as drying is
That was supposed to say: ...register with the EPA as a fuel
producer...bsp; sorry.
*
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Energy efficiency proponents and conservationists have been pointing to
these occurences for three decades now. They even wrote the book(s) as to
what would happen and how to address/prevent it.
And what was the snotty remark Dick Cheney said after thirty years, back in
May of 2001?
Hi Tom and Kieth,
I have a copy of Brown's Second Alcohol Fuel Cookbook
by Michael H. Brown. In it, there is a section on
methanol production (pg 125). It lists the ingredients
and equipment and continues with a section called
Step-by-Step Procedures. The procedure goes into a
lot of detail and
.said the spider to the fly.
: ) AntiFossil
On Apr 2, 2005 6:32 AM, Gustl Steiner-Zehender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hallo Tom,
I am not the one to ask about rubber and biodiesel. It is my
impression that the two get along fine although they have a bad
reputation to the contrary
Hakan Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED] and others wrote:
Dear Henri and Rick,
I only like to put this we took out Hitler to rest. That the Americans
single handed took out Hitler, is a myth that only exists in Hollywood movies.
Actually, my understanding of the history is that Hitler committed
Thank you for your reply
IV is the iodine value. Iodine reacts with the carbon
carbon double bonds, so the amount of Iodine absorbed is a
direct measure of the number of double bonds. Hydrogenation
removes the double bonds. Complete hydrogenation will
remove all double bonds hence the
Hakan, you are not well informed.
World War II killed and missing
...armed forces KM... total population of country
Australia26,976.6 million
New Zealand..11,625.2 million
Canada...42,04211 million
I've developed this wonderful technique of producing cold
fusion in a Dr Pepper bottle, just add the secret ingredients and
shake it 3.5 times... Interested?
Keith
Chris Kueny ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
78 Chevy Custom DeLuxe
'85 300TD
'02 Subaru Outback
Won't argue with your figures, I ain't a historian so please if anyone
knows different please say so, but to my knowledge the assistance provided
by the US to Britain during WWII was not free. It had to be paid back, at
least in part, which is why rationing continued in Britain for so long, well
I'm not too up on the history either. I do know that militqry
equipment was provided on lend-lease, which meant that if it was still
around after the war, the Brits had to give it back.
So a month or so after V-J day, the U.S. under the influence of Congress
said OK, time's up, give it back. So
Doug,
The number you give is WWII losses, I was talking about the
European part of WWII. This because we talked about taking
out Hitler. US lost several times more in the Pacific, than they
did in Europe. Otherwise I find your number interesting and I have
seen them before.
As Darryl pointed
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