Diseases Was: [biofuel] my two cents on mad cow

I know epidemics are a good way of eliminating the aged and weak you know, those who are liabilities. Those who drain the pot with higher medical needs yet contribute very little, in terms of taxes (if you're talking about a governmental point of view) or in terms of Corporate Profits

[biofuel] Exactly my point Was: Slave or slave ... your choice

See, that's why I don't understand your comments. You of all people understand that the Corporate and the Government are but two faces of the same complex. Why then are you asking Government ... to take freedoms away (if only from the Corporate). You know what Government would do! It'll

[biofuel] Slave or slave ... your choice Was: Nothing ... it's people

First of all, I can't read the archives. Everyone seems to forget I've got no internet access!! I'll read it next time I hit the library... But for the purpose of this reply, it is inconsequential and irrelevant. Reason: I agree with you 100% that many Large Corporations are what

[biofuel] Nothing ... it's people Was: What's wrong with corporations?

If I may disagree with the entire group, I disagree with the supposition that Corporations are the problem. To me, PEOPLE are the problem. Corporations are merely vehicles for people to screw up the enviroment . step all over human rights blah blah blah. Think of it like the argument

Re: [biofuel] Ethanol Fixing Old Cars

As I understand, the technical octane rating of Methanol and Ethanol are comparable. But then again, my alcohol real-life experience is limited. Though my instincts tell me that if the Max compression ratio of Meth and Eth are different it's probably because the Methanol fuel mixture is so

Re: [biofuel] Ethanol Fixing Old Cars

Ethanol usually is run in a spark-ignition type engine. The type that stock runs gasoline. Modifications include changing the fuel-handling components to pass ethanol without dissolving (since ethanol is a different type of solvent than gas) richening the fuel mixture to accomadate

[biofuel] Why external combustion = multifuel capable Was: The Versatile Engine

A Stirling Engine is kind like a steam engine. In that it has a boiler sticking in your face and says, I don't care how this gets hot, but get it hot and my crankshaft will turn. Burn Gasoline under it Diesel Ethanol Biodiesel.a pile of firewood. I think I've read

[biofuel] Depends on how you measure efficiency Was: Expert Pans Ethanol

Isn't Pimentel the guy who said Ethanol wasn't feasible because more energy goes in than comes out?? I think it's OIL that has that problem. Especially after that post stating how many tons of ancient plants go into a single gallon of gas. Talk about efficiency (or the lack of it). Oilies

[biofuel] Ethanol and the US Was: Brazil Ethanol

It's because the US is not so rich of a country. Ever seen in Hollywood ... how cowboy towns are nothing more than fronts propped up with 2X4's in the back?? Looks real on the screen doesn't it?? The US's richness is the same. All for show ... yet no backbone, no substance backing it. BTW,

[biofuel] The US ... RICH?? You're kidding! Was: Brazil Ethanol

I disagree with you Hakan. The US is already the poorest country in the world. This country spends a lot of time making it's Cowboy Town look good on the world screen (see my other post about the Hollywood Cowboy Town). I know!! I live here!! Step one for the US goes much deeper than

Re: [biofuel] Brazil Ethanol

Exactly. Curtis US Citizen - Make her feel special this coming holiday season with flowers www.flowerson55.com - Original Message - From: pan ruti [EMAIL PROTECTED] We Brazilian , most of us do not believe we are poorer than US, as the country is well blessed

[biofuel] Re: running ethanol - conversion required?

As I understand, ethanol is a ionic type of substance, Gasoline is a covalent substance. Roughly explained Ionic (think, water based) Covalent (think, oil based). Ionic solvents dissolve different things then covalent solvents. Make sense right?? Table Salt dissolves in water ...

[biofuel] UltaCaps Was: Hybrid Electric Vehicles

Wonder if Ultra-Caps would be any good for Power-to-Time (and Time to Power) conversions. Meaning:The problem with regen braking is that when you slam on the brake, large amounts of energy needs to be gotten rid of very quickly. If you want to avoid hitting the cement wall ... of course

[biofuel] A third thread falling into this pattern?? Was: Two threads that have something in common??

I was gonna add something ... but ... nevermind. It seem you guys got the point of what I was trying to get at. The whole point of the Powers That Be seems to be falling into a pattern of FORRRCINNG us into an unquittable HEROIN habit ... just to sit back and let the (drug)

[biofuel] Is there a pattern forming here?? Was: Q A on Bolivia

This is getting rather tiring. Is it just me or is it that every time some area in the world is labeled as huge reserves of fossil fuel ... that somehow the U.S. (and Britain, for that matter) is involved. And often accompanied by some kind of repressive/suppressive (extreme control type)

[biofuel] Two threads that have something in common?? Was: Sobering Response to Renault Kangoo Plug-In Hybrid Story

Maybe having grid-chargeable hybrids would be the same as Keith's individual-able-to-make-his/her-own-fuel. ... it would be too enpowering to us individuals. Making us less dependent. Beginning to see a pattern here?? Curtis - Make her feel special this coming holiday

[biofuel] Problem #1: How much does heat cost?

Time for biomass gasification - GenSet - Powering your home maybe?? Endless electrical power. WOW. Curtis Get your free newsletter at http://www.ezinfocenter.com/3122155/NL - Original Message - From: Brent S [EMAIL PROTECTED] For me it's a no brainer. There is so much waste wood

[biofuel] He's neither Was: A good use for dino-fuels!

IMHO, ol' Junior is neither a right nor a left winger. I know very well, the true Compassionate Conservative point of view. And though he calls himself so ... where the rubber meets the road .. he doesn't act it. His ahem .. true colors show. Gang, make NO mistake about it .. he is NOT

[biofuel] Free energy and magic dust, etc

Another Jack Carey [EMAIL PROTECTED] maybe??? Curtis Get your free newsletter at http://www.ezinfocenter.com/3122155/NL - Original Message - From: merlinsaintgermain [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Keith, Your ridicule of alternative energy technologies, and fuel efficiency improvement

Re: [biofuel] diesel or hybrid?

Ah, but don't forget ... Biofuel powered GRID-CHARGEABLE hybrid!! Curtis Get your free newsletter at http://www.ezinfocenter.com/3122155/NL - Original Message - From: Bryan Brah [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've been following this thread for a while and I know that it originated because of

Modifying a hybrid to work on Biofuels Was: [biofuel] diesel or hybrid?

Indeed. If I wasn't so (literally) BROKE right now .. I'd take a swing at a modification project! :) Curtis 15 year component-level Electronics-Tech. Hotrodder (Weber Carbs/Headers/etc/etc). Some experience fooling car-computers into working with non-standard modified setups when I

[biofuel] 1/2 did Was: Hydrogen Economy-2

I TRIED once! Does that count?? Curtis Get your free newsletter at http://www.ezinfocenter.com/3122155/NL - Original Message - From: robert luis rabello [EMAIL PROTECTED] The problems with hydrogen are: How do you produce it in an energetically efficient manner, and how can you

[biofuel] What is this wealth they talk about Was: Food and fuel - fair trade?

After many years of studying the economy, investing, wealth, et al, I've sorry to say that there is only ONE kind of ahem wealth. A SAFE FULL OF SLAVE OWNERSHIP PAPERS. Oil is wealth why ... because people are cold and stuck with dead ICE engines in traffic. You own all the

It's what you call it (how you spin it??) Was: [biofuel] Gaining insight

Someone once told me something when I was just a kid. When the Cowboys raid an Indian town, it's called a MILITARY VICTORY. When the Indians raid a Cowboy town, it's called a MASSACRE. Didn't know at the time exactly what that meant. Curtis Get your free newsletter at

[biofuel] Almost there ... just a little further Was: AC Propulsion's new Li-Ion T-Zero makes its debut!

Keep Grid Charge-ability add E85/Biodiesel genset hybrid ... Curtis Get your free newsletter at http://www.ezinfocenter.com/3122155/NL - Original Message - From: murdoch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Recently posted on AC Propulsion's website. http://www.acpropulsion.com/ First

[biofuel] Perhaps a not-so-democratic .... Democracy Was: Whining

Thanks Todd. :) But hey, while we're on the subject, I wanna make a bold statement ... and I wanna see what 'ol Keith-the-PRspin-expert has to say. My theory: I don't think the vast majority of American's feel the way the vast majority feels. As with whining. and such. I've got a sneaky

Re: [biofuel] Gas Prices Causing Alarm

I have said it to Todd ... and I will say it to you. PLEASE do not imply that all SUV drivers ... I happen to be one of those SUV drivers.And I think I drive rather courteously, Thank You. I turn signal ... let the 'ol lady cross ... KNOW that my lil' 4-wheeler doesn't get the best

[biofuel] More W-R=0 Was: Labor Day 2003: Nothing to Celebrate

Yes, a day to celebrate just how much closer we are to W-R=0. You know, Wage minus Rent equals ZERO. ABSOLUTELY . zero. When are we gonna learn?? That the whole point of this exercise ... is to make a man work ... then to take 99% of it to build a rich man's mountain. Then to feed

Whining Was: [biofuel] Gas Prices Causing Alarm

Todd, Would you please NOT make it as though ALL Americans are-whining. Please. Cause I for one ... am not. Thanks Todd. The only Americans that are whining ... are the ones who have secumbed to the trend of what's-left-of this-country turning into a so-called parental-state. Where

[biofuel] My Dream Was: Gas Prices Causing Alarm

I'm still looking for a: (Full-Time - No Gasoline) E85 / Biodiesel powered. GRID CHARGEBLE. FULL ELECTRIC (mode) drive-able (able to be grid charged and runned till flat on batteries) Hybrid. Now THAT would be cool. :) Curtis Get your free newsletter at

Re: [biofuel] Some chaos at Yahoo

In a sick way, it's kinda funny though. A YahooGroup ... bouncing out its Moderator/OWNER. Curtis Get your free newsletter at http://www.ezinfocenter.com/3122155/NL - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] I suppose I'm not the only one, but dear old Yahoo has

Re: [biofuel] Fwd: your subscribe request

Eh, wassup brah, Howzit. (LOLOLOL) Curtis Biofuel list member: Live MN but was born/raised Pearl City, HI 96782 Get your free newsletter at http://www.ezinfocenter.com/3122155/NL - Original Message - From: Ted Powell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aloha, street next to Waikiki! I cut

[biofuel] Blaster worm

If you ask me, M$ and the feds are working together ... much like the Shrub and Haliburton. And it's all one big scam. The hackers (making these viruses) ... heck ... they're probably terrorists payed under the table to develop techniques for the feds (and M$) to find bigger and better ways to

[biofuel] It's all relative Was: Could this be true???????

I dunno, I was under the impression that this was common knowledge. I've known about that for quite some time .. These people are kinda silly in a way. They think that, having so much power, there's nothing left to relieve their boredom then to play ... what shall I call it ... Elementary

[biofuel] Islam vs Christians vs Jews Was: Stop the crazy son of a Bush!

[biofuel] Religious Violence Was: Stop the crazy son of a Bush!

I believe the whole kill and die in the name of God (in ALL religions) are a result of 3 statements that were made (By God ... but that's a subject of a different thread (LOL)... whether he did ... or not). 1. Moses/Ten Commandments - Thou shalt not shed innocent blood. Thus guilty blood

[biofuel] Meaning what?? Was: Stop the crazy son of a Bush!

Please correct me Guy. Your statement has an undercurrent of more baloney the other guy's are of the devil ... and therefore have positioned themselves as our enemy. Case closed. I'm wrong right?? Curtis Get your free newsletter at http://www.ezinfocenter.com/3122155/NL - Original

[biofuel] Meaning what?? Was: Stop the crazy son of a Bush!

Please correct me Guy. Your statement has a undercurrent of Baloney, those Islamic @#$%$#'s are bombing, shooting terroristic violence makers AT THE CORE. Please explain yourself or as I'm probably wrong ... please correct me. Curtis Get your free newsletter at

[biofuel] Tracking a car's mileage Was: The Hydrogen hype, the scam artists at work. and more idea's

Actually, I was just thinking, you could have every car required to be manufactured with a on-board, built in GPS. Then have that GPS tracked from X month to the same registration month the next year. Then have that file cross-referenced with the car's registration/ownership files.

[biofuel] Addicts make good crop (of Money) Was: Attack Continues On American Southwest Homes By Years of Stored Biofuel

Now WHY would a drug dealer want to suggest the use of home grown methadone? Especially when the (oil) drug money'$ rolling in so nicely. Your fellow CopperTop, Curtis Get your free newsletter at http://www.ezinfocenter.com/3122155/NL - Original Message - From: murdoch [EMAIL

Re: [biofuel] Gephardt Vows to End U.S. Foreign Oil Addiction

With the entrenched buddy-buddy system installed in this country ... I can't help but be leery. Curtis Get your free newsletter at http://www.ezinfocenter.com/3122155/NL - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gephardt Vows to End U.S. Foreign Oil Addiction

Re: [biofuel] Re: White House Influences EPA Report To Leave Out Comments On Climate Change

Awe Todd, Didn't you know we march around the globe ... carrying the (singing) Arm of God Truth and Right?? Curtis Get your free newsletter at http://www.ezinfocenter.com/3122155/NL - Original Message - From: appalenergy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aww gee! Are you trying to tell me

[biofuel] Fuel efficiency vs Speed

My book, as I recalled, does mention that what goes up with speed is air resistance (drag). Curtis Get your free newsletter at http://www.ezinfocenter.com/3122155/NL - Original Message - From: Martin Klingensmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Right, but for smaller cars and more efficient cars

[biofuel] Fuel efficiency vs Speed Was: PATRIOTS ENERGY PLEDGE?

As I understand, the 55 MPH limit came because as speed goes up MPG goes down ... exponentially. The curve goes down at a slow rate then starts nosediving right around 55 MPH. Something like that. Saw it in some fuel-efficiency/automotive technical book I have in my dusty

Re: The Cult of High Mileage (was RE: [biofuel] Funding Petroleum Warlords)

Why can I make a small truck get high 20s mpg when a new V8 dodge dakota with all it's technology only gets 25mpg? The answer is very simple COST. If the automakers did everything you did to improve mileage . and then ADD the markups, profit margin, corporate taxes (etc, etc, etc)

Re: [biofuel] A Time of Reckoning

Well actually, American Democracy is referring to American People Power (mis)REPRESENTED by Presidential Administrations and US corporations. After all, they ahem ... speak for us (as far as the rest of the world is concerned). To be exact. And of course, a TERRORIST is defined as any

[biofuel] Your choice Was: Any Questions??

I dunno, I'm not really sure why most are the coppertops. Been wondering for years about that. Just one of those mysteries of life I guess. Yes, dropping out. Problem is although not there yet ... the dropper outers are being ever-so-slowly, yet surely ... defined as either terrorist

Re: Any Questions?? Was: [biofuel] War Profiteers Card Deck

Well, you've gotta remember, a slave is a valuable manufacturing piece of equipment ... similar to a wave soldering machine, robot automobile welder, or weaving loom. Doctoring costs simply represent a repair cost to that piece of equipment. Unless of course, the repair ..oops .. I mean

Re: Any Questions?? Was: [biofuel] War Profiteers Card Deck

Keith, Stick to being a biofuels list moderator ... your buddy's right ... I don't think you'll make it being a comedian ... unfortunately (fortunately for us on the biofuels list, however). About my words: what bugs ME is how the majority just can't seem to figure out that the turning of

Big vs Small Was: [biofuel] Bad quality at World Energy? what's that again about homebrewers???

A tiny little comment My wife manages a flower shop here ... and I do a lot of the marketing studying for her (Yes, out of love ... for free. Husbands DO make for very cheap labor!). And one thing I have found by interviewing the public ... is that there is a VERY definite trend of to be

Any Questions?? Was: [biofuel] War Profiteers Card Deck

And of course, in my personal book, COLONIALISM ... is that act that puts large sums of people in that position of high rent/low wages such that, as I've always said, WAGE - RENT = ZERO.Followed of course, by PENSION = ZERO. Got that? 1. You're born 2. You're spun by an institution

Consuming your own fuel you create Was: [biofuel] Re: [biofuels-biz] NBB and health effects data -

last post is that as far as I know, no one's been proescuted yet, and the World Energy communique (the somebody below) claimed quite explicitly that someone HAD been. mark --- In response to csakima [EMAIL PROTECTED] who wrote: Don't scare me. Are you all implying that if I made Biodiesel in my

[biofuel] Re: Oil and Water

Sorry ...I guess it just goes against what is registered in my brain as so-called common sense. You know, how oil and water are not supposed to mix. Almost seem like an oxymoron . water-soluble OIL. Curtis Get your free newsletter at http://www.ezinfocenter.com/3122155/NL -

[biofuel] Re: [biofuels-biz] NBB and health effects data -

Don't scare me. Are you all implying that if I made Biodiesel in my backyard ... and ran it in my OWN car that I'd be taxed for it?? I thought you'd only run into a tax problem if you tried to sell it.What about brew-at-home-use-at-home. What if, for example, every gallon I used to go

Re: [biofuel] Fwd: it can't happen here

continuing the precedence - 20 years down the road Texas HB 435: This legislation makes protesting IRAQI WAR issues a criminal activity, and increases penalties for ANTI-WAR organizations participating in activities 'with an intent to influence a governmental entity or the public to take a

:We are Family, by Sister Sledge Was: [biofuel] Fire Mitigation

Big Timber, Big Govt, Big Oil. Playing on the same country club greens. Reserving spaces on the same table at the fine dining restaurant Laughing noisily at the same table at the same bar, at the same parties. Board of Directors of the same Companies. Sleeping together in the same bed. Sigh

[biofuel] Just what I need ..... Was: act NOW to keep a semi-free media.

Once again, continue the precedence .. Forget CNN . it all merges into GNN ... the Global News Network. American News ... British News French News ... German News Swedish News ... Japan News China News .. Korean News ... IRAQI News ... Iranian News .. All rolled

Re: [biofuel] Just what I need ..... Was: act NOW to keep a semi-free media.

Yes! Most definitely! Let's just hope though, that (in doing so,) we don't make ourselves TOO much of a threat to their plan of UWFPWTMM*. They want our W-R to be zero ... which, as everyone knows .. is the total goal of it all. Curtis *UWFPWTMM: Us Working For Peanuts While They Make

Oil and Water Was: [biofuel] steam versus oil heating for commercial plants

Was wondering what you meant by oil containing water. Oil and water do not mix. Do you mean a pot full of oil ... with drops of water on the bottom of the pot?? Or what?? Curtis Get your free newsletter at http://www.ezinfocenter.com/3122155/NL - Original Message - From: William

[biofuel] The MLM effect Was: Here's the proof: was, I think Bush pressed the button

Sigh ... again it seems to be coming down to The MLM effect. History seems to be all coming down to rallying everyone to a battle call. Then telling everyone that, if we're gonna do this ... we have to make 'sacrifices' .Then putting everyone into a CORPORATE You=employee (cheap employee)

Re: [biofuel] The MLM effect Was: Here's the proof: was, I think Bush pressed the button

I have been looking for a way. But every which way seems to begin by doing some immoral, unethical ... or as is the case most of the time, illegal. Will not quit still looking. Anybody wanna point the way?? I'm all ears. Curtis Get your free newsletter at

Re: [biofuel] The MLM effect.

Or maybe, as in what appears to be in my case SO pre-programmed by the system that I cannot see any other way ... or perhaps not know what I'm looking for. Curtis Get your free newsletter at http://www.ezinfocenter.com/3122155/NL - Original Message - From: Ken Provost [EMAIL

Starting from scratch Was: [biofuel] The MLM effect

Problem is ... every way I look at it .. it all seems to start with a large amount of something called money. Whether it's to purchase that land to live off of or to build a greenhouse. And money is something I have a rather short supply of (spelled Z.E.R.O.). Suggestions Also ...

I think Bush pressed the button Was: [biofuel] Bush's Christian Blood Cult

If you asked me, I would say that 'ol GWB not only knew about the 9/11 beforehand guys ... but in reality caused it. No, I have absolutely, positively NO proof. It is a statement I make .. only from the chill I get up my spine when I hear reports that ... I think a YEAR before 9/11 .. some

[biofuel] Re: I think Bush pressed the button

Ok, I concede that I look at our Government ... not as blocks of Administrations ... but rather as one-long connected history of one-long corporation. The only difference being a change in CEO. When I made the comment of it was 'Bush' that whatever what I really meant (to

[biofuel] What little I know. Was: I think Bush pressed the button

hahahahahahahaha!!! That's good!! But seriously though ... you're right ... I do not know too much. But over the years there is only ONE conclusion that I think I can say I reasonably ... KNOW. They are: 1. All is not what it seems. 2. Bush .. or any other President for that matter

High Energy Density = naturally some hazards Was: [biofuel] Fwd: hybrids/hydrogen/emissions/impact

In my mind .. I just simply look at the requirements of an automobile. People expect it to have maximum leg and trunk room which leaves little room for the fuel tank and engine. People also expect it to accelerate from zero to 60 in 5. This high-power requirement... combined with the

Re: Voltage (was: RE: [biofuel] World's first hydrogen service station opens in Iceland)

Thinking about for awhile Yes, as the battery is given a higher and higher voltage (while maintaining a constant current, that's the key) ... yes ... more energy/power is flowing. If in doubt ... consider this: 1 foot of resistance wire ... takes (for example) 1 amp flowing through it to make

In defense of Steve Was: [biofuel] Bush's Christian Blood Cult

In a way, I kinda feel sorry for Steve. I think the only thing Steve does wrong (if you wanna call it that) is that he does not begin each sentence with Well, in my opinion . . It's probably something he means ... but simply neglects to say. In MY head, I simply add the missing in my

Re: Voltage (was: RE: [biofuel] World's first hydrogen service station opens in Iceland)

Stray Comment I think though, that if the current drops (as the battery charges) ... that the battery will charge slower and slower. Curtis Get your free newsletter at http://www.ezinfocenter.com/3122155/NL - Original Message - From: Darryl McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] A watt-hour is a

[biofuel] My feelings of the man Was: I am ... that I am

I disagree. I believe in order to explain my point, I must separate Saddam's actions into 2 categories ... the stuff that he has done in relation to the whims of the United Nations/United States .. and whatever everything else. The everything else is a subject perhaps of another

[biofuel] Making sure that history does not repeat itself Was: I am ... that I am

No, the REAL problem is . doesn't those word sound familiar?? If I recall, didn't some German Man named Adolf also go plowing ahead with that frame of mind?? Aryan Race anyone?? We should not panic ... no. But I feel nevertheless that we should be watchful .. as to where this path

America, Inc. Was: [biofuel] Re: How We Lost the Victory

The result of the dissenter leaving ... would result in who's-left being the (as you call it) the toe-in-line-ers. Which would result in this country's BECOMING take your pickChina? Burma? Singapore? Syria? Saudi Arabia? North Korea? dozens of other countries in Africa and the Middle East.

Invisibility Was: [biofuel] Re: How We Lost the Victory

I would disagree. I believe the world is becoming LESS democratic. No matter what any report says. Oh sure, votes are being taken ... laws enacted by counting those votes. But now PR agencies kick in ... paid for by powerful, invisible small groups of people ... who basically sway the votes

Could we stop all this POLITICAL Crap?? Was: America, Inc. Was: [biofuel] Re: How We Lost the Victory

://www.ezinfocenter.com/3122155/NL - Original Message - From: csakima [EMAIL PROTECTED] The result of the dissenter leaving ... would result in who's-left being the (as you call it) the toe-in-line-ers. Which would result in this country's BECOMING take your pickChina? Burma? Singapore

Singapore Was: [biofuel] Re: How We Lost the Victory

AHAFlushed out a Singapore-ian!! Opened your big (keyboard) mouth. Now you've got to tell the WHOLE story!!! Tell us (for education sake) HOW is the Singaporian government structured?? What path does a bill take ... and voted on by who to finally become law?? How does the

Re: [biofuel] life cycle analysis

Or ... Sustainability is the ability to understand that you can't keep writing $2.00 checks each day while during the same period .. only depositing $1.00. You might not like the checking account statement that our natural eco-system hands over to us next month (to our next generation). Curtis

Way back when Was: [biofuel] How We Lost the Victory

While I agree with you on many of your points Todd, weeding out character flaws unsettles me. Pushing that concept all the way ... and you get Nazi-German/Purebreed Aryan Race.Perhaps a better word would suit ... I dunno. Freedom's another funny concept. In the original version of

I am ... that I am Was: [biofuel] How We Lost the Victory

Well said Kris!! The problem with being one of the rich/powerful is that you have the ability to see the poor head's ... all lined up in a staircase. And nothing really wrong with those heads being like that. The problem comes in when the rich/powerful notice the staircase leading to even

Table Salt reactions Was: [biofuel] Lye and rust

I believe it seems to be just the fact that the solution conducts electricity that counts .. that it is an electrolyte.Any more knowledgeable member can correct me if it seems obviously wrong. Oily black deposit?? Oily implies (usually) a covalent substance (though not always). The

It's the other way around Was: [biofuel] How We Lost the Victory

I'm afraid you are a bit misguided. The fact that they (the powers) think things through IS the reason why things are the way they are. You just have to know how they look at it. From their point of view ... the common man is nothing more than a CROP. Something to plant (birth) ...

[biofuel] OUR matrix Was: It's the other way around

Yeah ... but not so much for the us-as-coppertop concept. That concept I got elsewhere. I enjoyed the movie more because it pointed out how a whole society could be in a fantasy/holodeck-y ship-in-a-bottle world ... oblivious to the real ugly world outside. Much the same way ... that CNN news

[biofuel] All the time Was: It's the other way around

Believe me ... my hopes I keep set to MAX ... all the time. And still do. Curtis Get your free newsletter at http://www.ezinfocenter.com/3122155/NL - Original Message - From: Doug Foskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, but we must dream of a better futureotherwise it will never happen.

Re: The changing Dictionary Was: [biofuel] Riggedelctions--Read David Icke

Hmmm. I'm not liking what you're saying Keith . You seem to be implying that 'ol GW is , in effect, pushing HIS own brand of Holy War. Jihad I think they call it in Islam. Bin Laden/Saddam Jihad vs. Bush Judeo-Christian Jihad. Christian Crusades, anyone?? Rather

[biofuel] Perhaps you were referring to someone else maybe??? Was: The changing Dictionary

I'm assuming that you must be a new member. Your response was in relation to my post yet most members here know that I'm far from being a leftist. I argue for gun ownership.Though not what the mainstream calls christian-christian I usually argue from a (more or less)

The changing Dictionary Was: [biofuel] Rigged elctions--Read David Icke

(BChristian!!?? . More like PRristian!! (B (BAlthough NOT what the mainstream "christian" ... I know "enough" to know (Bthat "Christianity" says, "You will know the righteous man by 'his fruits' (B".And his "fruits" ... ain't exactly "pure".Plus, don't they say (Bthat "The love

[biofuel] Option #3 Was: The changing Dictionary

PROTECTED] What a way you have with words, Curtis. csakima wrote: Christian!!?? . More like PRristian!! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get a FREE REFINANCE QUOTE - click here! http://us.click.yahoo.com/2CXtTB/ca0FAA/i5gGAA/FGYolB/TM

Merry Christmas Was: [biofuel] Rigged elections (was Bringing democracy to Sweden

Before this thread gets lost in the archives, I just wanted to let everyone know that:THIS IS EXACTLY WHY I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT ONLINE DEMOCRACY (WHICH WAS DISCUSSED AT LENGTH AWHILE BACK) WILL NOT WORK!! This is because, although aLL person(s) voted, all votes are sent to a central place to

Any room for oddballs? Was: [biofuel] Bringing democracy to Sweden

This debate epitomizes the only two choices we seem to be given in life. Either Bush was right, rightly elected, and doing-the-right in the Corporate taking of Iraq's natural oil resources in order to rent it to us at the most blood-squeezing (sucking??) price. OR ... You can follow Todd (only

Re: Any room for oddballs? Was: [biofuel] Bringing democracy to Sweden

Perhaps Todd, but it seems as though every time you mention the wrongs in this country, you seem to imply that somehow, the BS of Judeo-Christianity is somehow involved. And intended or not ... it still kinda irks me. While true that a lot of BS has been known to occur in the ... ahem ...

Biofuels and Freedom Was: [biofuel] Digest Number 1509, and forms of Government

Lance, The problem you run into ... is that Biodiesel and Ethanol represent MUCH MUCH more than transesterified WVO and C2H5OH. It represents FREEDOM. And THAT my friend, is a political statement. Like it or not. Whether or not a country's a democracy .. or a republic .. or a socialistic

[biofuel] Haven't we heard this record (CD?) play before?? Was: Bringing democracy to Sweden

Please don't scare me like this guys. This crap sound like a bunch of Russians just before the Communist Revolution Talking about how the Bolshevics (Europeans on this list, feel free to correct) have so much ... and how we have so little.And that's why we NEED to have the RISE of the

Using what I've learned Was:: [biofuel] The only real wealth

Aha! You've come to the exact crossroad I am at now!! (LOL) The books I've been reading .. are all the ones that Big Oil CEO's read ... and Governmental Dictator's read ... and so on. I've accumulated those book .. as part of my trying to understand ... why the world 'is' ... 'the way it is'

[biofuel] The only real wealth Was: Bush's Energy Bill Marches On

Over the last few year ... I have had a unusually unexpected opportunity to study this concept of so-called wealth. I've read all the books, attended all the lectures and seminars .. talked to a few power/wealth holders ... etc. And in the end .. have come to the most unholy conclusion ... as

Traditional Provocation Was: [biofuel] This is cute....

I. for one, still can't figure out how this war was provoked. I've always thought that, traditionally, provoking was mainly caused by the whistle of an enemy bomb high above US soil ... followed immediately by a boom. Like the way that Pearl Harbor led to WWII Still wondering, Curtis Get

Bracing for impact Was: [biofuel] This is cute....

SIGH Oh boy here it comes Preparing for impact. Those who know me ... know what I mean Curtis Get your free newsletter at http://www.ezinfocenter.com/3122155/NL - Original Message - From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] due process within the UN

Bracing for more impact Was: [biofuel] This is cute....

Here it comes again ... SIGH .. Again, those who know me ... know what I'm talking about Curtis Get your free newsletter at http://www.ezinfocenter.com/3122155/NL - Original Message - From: Darryl McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] In fact, to date, the illegal armed invasion of

The church of Bush. Was: [biofuel] This is cute....

What is a truly scary thought is that if Bush ... though supporting (and NOT giving help) to select churches ...Starts to only allows churches to survive (economically) if they have an official political position ... of teaching that yes indeed .. GOD is behind our side (in this war,

To Kill vs murder Was:: [biofuel] This is cute....

No offense to anyone but I believe the original meaning that was intended (to use modern English understanding of words) was: Thou shalt not spill innocent blood. Or something to that effect. That's why murder was considered wrong. And yet why self-defense (shooting a rapist attacking

[biofuel] Two sides of one coin Was: Iraq War Poll and CoffeeCup News

Yes .. I agree totally. and you become part of their enterprise. I think this whole Iraq mess is sickening. Not just the war, mind you. The whole mess. I have stated MANY times ... that I believe this whole mess was created to give all of us only TWO choices ... when answering what our

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