Nathan,
I never thought I'd take the time to do such a thing, but before I go
outside to cut down the rosebushes I've assembled (below) some of the
key points made on this thread between Quinn, Keith, Todd, and me.
Now that the dust is settling, this is what was significant to me in
the
Well, Maud. A bit like an exercise for student reporters - that sort
of fact-extraction can paint any picture you like. It's an exercise
on how not to do it. Yes, I know you said it's what was significant
to you, but I'd have to say that I'd paint a quite different picture,
so would Todd I
as bread making or weekend laundry. Exactly
what Maud and I have been saying all along.
- Original Message -
From: Appal Energy
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 1:06 AM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] BD as Lube oil for two stroke gasoline engine
Quinn,
Please read
: Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] BD as Lube oil for two stroke gasoline engine
Todd,
FTR, I have read thru all the posts. And responses. And I have spent way
too much time in my life arguing with my-way
Um, Keith? Isn't there a protocol here about outright nastiness?
I think Quinn and co. have some valid points, and they're being drowned in
this exchange. I'd like it a lot if we could get back to it.
Todd and Mark, you obviously have a LOT of knowledge about what is
required to make a BD
or weekend
laundry. Exactly what Maud and I have been saying all along.
- Original Message -
From: Appal Energy
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 1:06 AM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] BD as Lube oil for two stroke gasoline engine
Quinn,
Please read the entirety
Um, Keith? Isn't there a protocol here about outright nastiness?
Outright nastiness? Maybe it's in the eye of the beholder Nathan,
rather like the alleged mysogyny.
Keith
snip
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best regards
Fritz
- Original Message -
From: Quinn
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 7:07 PM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] BD as Lube oil for two stroke gasoline engine
Back off, Todd. Your break a nail/Virginia Slims
frank
-Original Message-
From: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 10:57 PM
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [biofuel] BD as Lube oil for two stroke gasoline engine
Hi Aleks
I think your tests have established a few things but I'm not sure how
.
Best,
Chris
=-Original Message-
=From: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
=Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 10:57 PM
=To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
=Subject: Re: [biofuel] BD as Lube oil for two stroke gasoline engine
=
=
=Hi Aleks
=
=I think your tests have established a few things
=Subject: Re: [biofuel] BD as Lube oil for two stroke gasoline engine
=
=
=Hi Alex
=
=Frank,
=
=Senbel has two products made from coconut for vehicle use. Estrol
=Biodiesel and Estrol 2T which come from the same coconut base but are
=completely different products. The Bio 2T is cheaper than any
Alexander,
May I ask what you do? Are you related in any way to NCTS or to Senbel
perhaps?
Regards,
Chris
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Alexander,
Could you elaborate on this:
=Senbel decided to developed their own bio 2T
=formulations and tested several until they came up with the right
=formulation before this was introduced in the market owing to the
=experience of their buyers.
Of which buyers? Tricycle drivers? Senbel
: Alexander P. Loinaz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 10:51 AM
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [biofuel] BD as Lube oil for two stroke gasoline engine
Franklin,
You can buy Bio 2T from Senbel Fine Chemicals at telephone # (632)
850-6877
=To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
=Subject: Re: [biofuel] BD as Lube oil for two stroke gasoline engine
=
=
=Hi Alex
=
=Frank,
=
=Senbel has two products made from coconut for vehicle use. Estrol
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Yes, Keith, I really, really do want the design and specifications
for a complete solution that includes an appropriate washing
tank...and also a condenser. I am using the word solution in the
marketing sense.
The FuelMeister may be both a poor fuel processor and a poor consumer
value, but
You know Maud,
There is a difference between claiming to be able to make bread from scratch
and then going to the kitchen and using your Champion bread processor. 'Bout
like someone claiming to brew their own beer but using a kit-in-a-can
instead of whole grain.
There are those that do, and
In German, the name for stroke is takt and the name for a 2-stroke is
Zwei-Takt or 2-Takt
This is an alternative origin on the designated term 2T oil. Were the
Germans using two takts more at the inception of this engine??
Mike Barnett
Eco designer, and foreign language fan...
JAMAICA
Hi, Todd!
You missed the point of my satire...my Yeasted Roll Processor and my
Loaf of Bread Processor are one and the same. They are my oven, not a
bread machine! And I am happy to report I don't own a Cuisinart.
Please let me know if you'd like to continue this discussion without
further
thanks Dan.
- Original Message -
From: Dan Maker
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] BD as Lube oil for two stroke gasoline engine
Quinn said:
Can someone please tell me what 2T means in regards to oil
: Thursday, November 27, 2003 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] BD as Lube oil for two stroke gasoline engine
Hi, Todd!
You missed the point of my satire...my Yeasted Roll Processor and my
Loaf of Bread Processor are one and the same. They are my oven, not a
bread machine! And I am happy to report I
: Thursday, November 27, 2003 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] BD as Lube oil for two stroke gasoline engine
You know Maud,
There is a difference between claiming to be able to make bread from
scratch
and then going to the kitchen and using your Champion bread processor.
'Bout
like
Ah, this is the kind of answer I love. The 'what' and also the 'why'.
Thank you Mike.
Quinn
- Original Message -
From: Mike Barnett
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 11:44 AM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] BD as Lube oil for two stroke gasoline engine
Hi Maud
Yes, Keith, I really, really do want the design and specifications
for a complete solution that includes an appropriate washing
tank...and also a condenser. I am using the word solution in the
marketing sense.
:-) Marketing sense is a bit of an oxymoron, IMNSHO. Buy now and save money.
: [biofuel] BD as Lube oil for two stroke gasoline engine
Hi Aleks
I think your tests have established a few things but I'm not sure how
useful it is. You've established what doesn't work with using
biodiesel as 2T oil, but I don't think you can extrapolate from these
tests that biodiesel
if
you're already in the midst of those things alternative?
Todd Swearingen
- Original Message -
From: Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 7:07 PM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] BD as Lube oil for two stroke gasoline engine
Back off, Todd. Your
Frank
-Original Message-
From: Alexander P. Loinaz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 10:51 AM
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [biofuel] BD as Lube oil for two stroke gasoline engine
Franklin,
You can buy Bio 2T from Senbel
to be a rocket scientist. But I bet it would
help. ; )
Thanks,,
Quinn
- Original Message -
From: Alexander P. Loinaz
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 8:43 AM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] BD as Lube oil for two stroke gasoline engine
Hi Keith
Quinn said:
Can someone please tell me what 2T means in regards to oil? Is it what we
here in GA call 2-cycle oil? Or am I way off base?
Yes, that's what it is, many 2-cycle oils also have the 2T designation on
the bottle. There may be more to it, but in essence 2T is 2-cycle oil.
Dan
--
?
Best
Keith
Thanks,,
Quinn
- Original Message -
From: Alexander P. Loinaz
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 8:43 AM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] BD as Lube oil for two stroke gasoline engine
Hi Keith,
The use of biodiesel as 2T replacement
: [biofuel] BD as Lube oil for two stroke gasoline engine
Hi Quinn
Can someone please tell me what 2T means in regards to oil? Is it what
we
here in GA call 2-cycle oil? Or am I way off base? Often I follow
these
threads with only the faintest glimpse of what is going on because
Among other things, I can make bread and tofu from scratch. In fact,
tomorrow morning I'm going to bake special rolls for the American
holiday Thanksgiving.
Fortunately, before I start baking tomorrow morning I don't have to
figure out how to design a Yeasted Roll Processor that will later
Maud Essen said:
snip
Until the day arrives that we can go to any appliance store to
purchase the Biodiesel Processor that meets our family's needs, we
snip
Well said, and to that end, I've been looking into and researching on
continuous process, relatively low volume, high quality
Yes, Maud, but do you really, really seriously, require a design and
specifications for a washing tank???
From your previous:
it needs an associated washing system. Could Mark's
posting of Sean Davis' stand-pipe system be an appropriate companion
for the $150 Fumeless?
]
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 10:51 AM
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [biofuel] BD as Lube oil for two stroke gasoline engine
Franklin,
You can buy Bio 2T from Senbel Fine Chemicals at telephone # (632)
850-6877 in the Philippines. They sell the Estrol brand of Bio 2T which
was tested
: [biofuel] BD as Lube oil for two stroke gasoline engine
Franklin,
You can buy Bio 2T from Senbel Fine Chemicals at telephone # (632)
850-6877 in the Philippines. They sell the Estrol brand of Bio 2T which
was tested by the National Center for Transport Studies of the
University
as a basic mode of transportation on
rural areas.
Thanks for the information
Frank
-Original Message-
From: Alexander P. Loinaz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 10:51 AM
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [biofuel] BD as Lube oil for two stroke
Franklin,
You can buy Bio 2T from Senbel Fine Chemicals at telephone # (632)
850-6877 in the Philippines. They sell the Estrol brand of Bio 2T which
was tested by the National Center for Transport Studies of the
University of the Philippines Engineering Department. This was proven to
be
Hi to all
I would like to report to the group that my 83 model Yamaha motorcycle
was running good with BD as a lube oil. Smoke was reduce and no more oil
dripping on my muffler. I sent my motorcycle for emission test center
the result were as follow:
Data reading
CO2 2.90%
CO 3.39%
HC
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