Re: [svg-developers] UUgle Map of Pologonia

2013-08-18 Thread Guy Morton
When I go it says "This is an Internet Explorer web application." So, you've lost me at the start. Why would you build an app in SVG that only works in IE? IE is about as popular as syphilis these days. Guy On 19/08/2013, at 8:06 AM, "Francis Hemsher" wrote: > ...I'm at it again;) > > I've

Re: [svg-developers] Re: Use in HTML. Who's Right, Who's Wrong.

2011-04-01 Thread Guy Morton
ure Safari will get filters soon. Guy On 02/04/2011, at 10:43 AM, jamesd wrote: > > --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Guy Morton wrote: >> >> And btw, your site looks fine in Safari...not much different to how it looks >> in Chrome in fact. >> > >

Re: [svg-developers] Re: Use in HTML. Who's Right, Who's Wrong.

2011-04-01 Thread Guy Morton
There's a difference. Hardly puts Safari in the same category as IE<9 though, does it? On 02/04/2011, at 10:43 AM, jamesd wrote: > > --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Guy Morton wrote: >> >> And btw, your site looks fine in Safari...not much different to how

Re: [svg-developers] Re: Use in HTML. Who's Right, Who's Wrong.

2011-04-01 Thread Guy Morton
Perhaps he should qualify it as IE<9, since hardly anyone will have IE9 anytime soon, sadly. All those XP users will be stuck on IE8 or worse for many years to come. On 02/04/2011, at 10:13 AM, Francis Hemsher wrote: > Hi James, > You'll be pleased to know your site works well in IE9. > There

Re: [svg-developers] Use in HTML. Who's Right, Who's Wrong.

2011-04-01 Thread Guy Morton
x on your front page? There's an old saying "You catch more flies with honey than vinegar" that you might like to ponder. I don't think telling people they are idiots is a great way to get them to change... Guy On 02/04/2011, at 10:21 AM, Guy Morton wrote: > Interesti

Re: [svg-developers] Use in HTML. Who's Right, Who's Wrong.

2011-04-01 Thread Guy Morton
Interesting rant on your site. You do know that Safari is built from the same codebase as Chrome, don't you? But one is a real browser and the other isn't? Apple has been one of the main protagonists in the fight for better standards support on the web. Their (I think brave) decision to not sup

Re: [svg-developers] Re: Adobe Labs Wallaby's use of SVG

2011-03-11 Thread Guy Morton
Hi Andreas I hadn't actually *tried* it, so your feedback is useful. I thought it would be a bit smarter than that, and would translate sprite animations into the equivalent DOM graphic + animation, but I guess timeline-based things like tweening have no corollary in SVG. I guess we shouldn't

Re: [svg-developers] Adobe Labs Wallaby's use of SVG

2011-03-10 Thread Guy Morton
HTML5 is a bit of a catch-all. In practice it is used to refer to "stuff browsers other than IE can do", so I don't have a problem with SVG being counted as a HTML5 feature. Obviously, the limitations of canvas mean it's not a good way to implement things like sprites that need to be modified

Re: [svg-developers] SVG SMIL in Safari ( Test Sample )

2011-02-19 Thread Guy Morton
And of course you can also download Safari for windows. On 20/02/2011, at 8:58 AM, Jeff Schiller wrote: > Safari is powered by WebKit so you should be able to get some idea by > looking at Chrome (though the WebKit powering Safari on iOS is different). > > Jeff > On Feb 19, 2011 6:49 AM, "Raks A

Re: [svg-developers] SVG SMIL in Safari ( Test Sample )

2011-02-19 Thread Guy Morton
If you enable the developer tools in Safari you can tell Safari to run in iPhone or iPad mode. Very useful for debugging. On 20/02/2011, at 1:49 AM, Raks A wrote: > Hi, > > I have written a SVG SMIL animation but as I do not have any iOS device can > someone help me in comparing the animation

Re: [svg-developers] Re: Release of SVG Web

2011-02-09 Thread Guy Morton
Indeed and while IE usage worldwide is dropping rapidly, mostly in favour of Chrome (for good reasons) it will still be many years before IE<9 drops to < 5% of the market, which is the point at which most developers would cut it loose. See http://gs.statcounter.com/ IE is currently about 46% of

Re: [svg-developers] IE9 SVG Support - Making the web better!

2011-01-28 Thread Guy Morton
Yes, I saw the same. They are just pulling from twitter though right? That's the problem with crowd-sourced content... :-) On 29/01/2011, at 9:50 AM, jamesd wrote: > Time for some humor! I was bored and so… went to see the MS IE9 SVG demos. I > selected the SVG tweet cloud demo. My mouse cursor

Re: [svg-developers] SVG in iPhone App

2011-01-13 Thread Guy Morton
like another window opening up for the browser to fit in > > Regards > Raks A > > > On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Guy Morton wrote: > >> >> >> Titanium embeds a webkit engine in your app. >> >> >> On 13/01/2011, at 4:55 PM, Raks

Re: [svg-developers] SVG in iPhone App

2011-01-13 Thread Guy Morton
Titanium embeds a webkit engine in your app. On 13/01/2011, at 4:55 PM, Raks A wrote: > Could not find anything related to SVG in Titanium, are you sure that > Titanium has built in SVG player than can play SVG SMIL animation ? > > - Raks A > > > > > On Thu, Ja

Re: [svg-developers] SVG in iPhone App

2011-01-12 Thread Guy Morton
Look at the Titanium framework. http://www.appcelerator.com/products/titanium-mobile-application-development/ On 13/01/2011, at 3:24 PM, Raks A wrote: > I know SVG is supported in iPhone Safari browser, but are there APIs to play > SVG SMIL animation using iPhone APIs > > I've never written i

Re: [svg-developers] Re: Adobe AIR drops SVG

2010-12-21 Thread Guy Morton
There's a JS called Easel you might like to look at. I had exactly the same questions. It looks to me like Easel is trying to make Canvas have the same capabilities as SVG. Why? I think, as you suggest, any browser that has Canvas support also has some level of SVG support. Why try to give Canva

Re: [svg-developers] Adobe AIR drops SVG

2010-11-11 Thread Guy Morton
I think Adobe are strategising themselves out of the game. They are fiddling while Rome burns. If you haven't already, look at Titanium...write once, deploy EVERYWHERE using WebKit as your runtime engine. And by "everywhere" I mean Windows, Mac, Linux, iOS, Android AND you can deploy your cod

Re: [svg-developers] Adobe AIR drops SVG

2010-11-10 Thread Guy Morton
For out of browser apps built with open web technologies look at Titanium. http://www.appcelerator.com/ Both AIR and Titanium use WebKit to render your content, but Titanium doesn't strip out competing technologies, because the developers don't OWN any competing technologies. Titanium is free

Re: [svg-developers] Re: Organized Crime in American Web Design

2010-11-05 Thread Guy Morton
I agree with Robert...I think your statements are a little intemperate, and I love a good conspiracy theory as much as the next man. In reality, Firefox had SVG support before Safari and Chrome. All 4 browsers-other-than-IE have decent SVG support now, and it's still improving with each release

Re: [svg-developers] Why is SVG performance so bad in Chrome and Firefox?

2010-11-04 Thread Guy Morton
Loaded as quickly in FF3.6 on mac as it did in safari on mac... Since Chrome and Safari use the same engine I'm surprised you're seeing a difference between safari and chrome in terms of performance. Guy On 05/11/2010, at 6:58 AM, scalablev wrote: > Try http://kart.nois.no/pub/oye/ie9/mapfile

Re: [svg-developers] SVG vs. Canvas

2010-10-29 Thread Guy Morton
How ironic. A talk about SVG on Canvas that requires Silverlightoh Patrick, you're a wag! Are you sure this isn't just a ploy to get more Silverlight downloads? On 30/10/2010, at 5:33 AM, Narendra Sisodiya wrote: > On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 6:20 PM, patrickdengler > wrote: > >> >> >>

Re: [svg-developers] Re: displaying svg on IE after 12-31-08

2009-01-02 Thread Guy Morton
You didn't look very hard. Try scrolling to the middle of the page... On 03/01/2009, at 9:58 AM, Fuliopen wrote: > I went to the following web page: > > http://www.adobe.com/svg/viewer/install/ > > It seems that ASV is no longer available for download. But if one > has already installed ASV to

Re: [svg-developers] Google working on Javascript drop-in enabling SVG on IE

2008-12-31 Thread Guy Morton
Sounds like a great project, Brad. If you feel up to a challenge, look at http://lhr.webtrak-lochard.com/ HNY to you too. Guy On 29/12/2008, at 8:39 AM, Brad Neuberg wrote: > Hi Stelton I'm working on this here at Google as part of a group > focused on Open Web Advocacy. I'm using Flash to do

Re: [svg-developers] displaying svg on IE after 12-31-08

2008-12-30 Thread Guy Morton
By the way, it might interest all to know that based on recent stats for our web app, IE (all versions) has only 55% of the browser market these days. A few years back it had 85%. I quote this because many people, it seems to me, are stuck on the idea that IE hold an unassailable position a

Re: [svg-developers] displaying svg on IE after 12-31-08

2008-12-30 Thread Guy Morton
Tell them to stop using that piece of junk browser and start using something more secure and standards compliant, eg Firefox, Safari, Opera. Any of those is better than IE - by a long shot, and all render SVG (though supported features may vary from one to another). Guy On 31/12/2008, at 1

Re: [svg-developers] Converting JPG files to SVG

2008-12-08 Thread Guy Morton
Just curious...but why are you doing that? On 09/12/2008, at 3:13 PM, Judy Perry wrote: > I use Inkscape a lot. I've been converting some of my jpg files into > svg files (opening the jpg file and save as a svg), but with over 1000 > files to convert, it is going to take me quite some time. > > W

Re: [svg-developers] Re: MS acquires ASV3 to bundle in IE8?

2008-11-12 Thread Guy Morton
Where are people getting the ideas that either MS is serious about adding native SVG support to IE, or that there is any chance at all that Adobe would sell them ASV? I mean, it's a nice daydream of course, but this is MS we're talking about here... Guy On 12/11/2008, at 10:43 PM, Francis

Re: [svg-developers] Interesting claim about Silverlight

2008-10-10 Thread Guy Morton
++ On 11/10/2008, at 2:21 PM, Doug Schepers wrote: > Hi, David- > > Brilliantly, hilariously written. You should repost this in a blog > for > wider exposure and posterity. > > Regards- > -Doug > > ddailey wrote (on 10/10/08 9:54 PM): >> I noticed tonight that the number of hits returned by G

Re: [svg-developers] Re: SVG is available on iPod Touch and iPhone

2008-09-20 Thread Guy Morton
Nice work. On 20/09/2008, at 10:49 PM, meikelneu wrote: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> good to hear, Guy. >> >> Yes, I think that mobile apps need to be different from desktop apps. >> Not only are the displays smaller, but the touch screen events are >> probably not very precise, compared to

Re: [svg-developers] Re: A question on IE browser

2008-08-29 Thread Guy Morton
at > least selected SVG 1.2 features that are useful in the HTML5 context. > > This is something that Microsoft increasingly cannot simply ignore. > > Andreas > > > --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Guy Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> You should wor

Re: [svg-developers] Re: A question on IE browser

2008-08-29 Thread Guy Morton
You should work on the basis that IE will NEVER natively support SVG. MS are playing a clever game of brinkmanship here, knowing that while they keep "native SVG support in IE" as a possibility, it will cripple efforts to build an alternative as developers will think "why start that when IE

Re: [svg-developers] Re: A question on IE browser

2008-08-29 Thread Guy Morton
I always recommend people use something other than IE. It's the work of the devil. :-) Safari, Opera & Firefox all have some level of SVG support and are available on Mac and Windows. On 30/08/2008, at 2:49 AM, Samuel Dagan wrote: > Hi Fulio, > It is not known if and when ASV will be not any

Re: [svg-developers] HTML named anchors in SVG

2007-10-21 Thread Guy Morton
That's an IE 'feature'. In case you haven't noticed yet, IE is a piece of crap. You can use javascript to scroll to a named anchor, though. Do a google. scrollTo I think is one of the js functions you are looking for. Also, browserEval is your friend. Guy On 22/10/2007, at 1:23 PM, tushar

Re: [svg-developers] Re: .getSVGDocument() issue with Opera 9.5

2007-09-07 Thread Guy Morton
We ended up dynamically writing either object or embed, based on a browser sniff. I think that's the safest approach. Guy On 08/09/2007, at 2:36 AM, brucerindahl wrote: > --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, "Armin Mueller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >> Bruce, >> >> we had the same prob

Re: [svg-developers] Re: Silverlight and other RIA's and RWC

2007-06-12 Thread Guy Morton
move on. Guy On 12/06/2007, at 4:57 PM, pilatfr wrote: > --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Guy Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> I think you've put plenty of words in. >> >> Saying something can work on 90% of browsers right now when what >

Re: [svg-developers] Safari 3 Beta now available for Windows and Macintosh

2007-06-12 Thread Guy Morton
it loads served files ok in my experience, eg http://lhr.webtrak- lochard.com/svg, but it doesn't run our application, sadly. I'm not sure what they are missing, but it works on our stuff about as well as webkit (which is not really a surprise). Would be great if it worked, especially if it w

Re: [svg-developers] Re: Silverlight and other RIA's and RWC

2007-06-11 Thread Guy Morton
I think you've put plenty of words in. Saying something can work on 90% of browsers right now when what you really mean is "if they install the plugin" is disingenuous at best and downright dishonest at worst. At least SVG has real native support in the most popular IE alternatives out there

Re: [svg-developers] Moderated Status and End of Thread

2007-05-28 Thread Guy Morton
Yes, Claus, I'd actually seen this once before. What is the status with it? Perhaps this is a project the SVG community ought to be trying to help push forward? Guy On 29/05/2007, at 8:30 AM, Claus Wahlers wrote: > >> If Adobe were smart, they'd build SVG support into the flash plugin >> (as

Re: [svg-developers] Moderated Status and End of Thread (was: OT)

2007-05-28 Thread Guy Morton
http://blogs.theage.com.au/thedailytruth/archives/2006/11/get.html I don't think anyone's saying SVG has no challenges ahead. I think a lot of people who are interested in using SVG *want* to support the open standards of the w3c rather than have yet another promising standard bastardised an

Re: [svg-developers] OT (was: Have you played with Silverlight?)

2007-05-26 Thread Guy Morton
So why are you still here? On 26/05/2007, at 5:41 PM, Geoffrey Swenson wrote: > SVG is probably a dead duck. I have not wanted to invest any more > work in it > for more than a year. This is not to say that I dislike SVG much at > all, but > the Adobe plugin has a lot of problems, and SVG is

Re: [svg-developers] OT (was: Have you played with Silverlight?)

2007-05-25 Thread Guy Morton
Right on Doug! It's especially irritating when people post nothing of substance except "ra-ra-ra"s for their preferred SVG alternative. If SVG isn't what you're interested in, unsubscribe! Guy On 26/05/2007, at 11:14 AM, Doug Schepers wrote: > Hi, Kevin and Geoff, et al- > > As owner of the

Re: [svg-developers] Re: converting external GML file into SVG using DOM/JS...

2007-04-26 Thread Guy Morton
; --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Guy Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> We have found on anything but the smallest XML nodes that >> getElementsByTagName sometimes fails to find nodes that our >> replacement function finds 100% reliably. YMMV, but that's

Re: [svg-developers] Re: converting external GML file into SVG using DOM/JS...

2007-04-26 Thread Guy Morton
large array when one exists already. The way it is now it should > never work very well. > >> 99% fine. > > What happens to the remaining 1%? (just kidding). > > Domenico > > > --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Guy Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: [svg-developers] converting external GML file into SVG using DOM/JS...

2007-04-25 Thread Guy Morton
getElementsByTagName is unreliable in IE/ASV. You haven't given a lot of details but I suspect this is your problem. we had similar problems and wrote a replacement function and the problem went away. Guy On 25/04/2007, at 9:26 PM, krugerboy1971 wrote: > I am trying to load some external GM

Re: [svg-developers] FF3.0a2 works great

2007-02-13 Thread Guy Morton
Aha...well that's the problem for me. I resized the window and it appeared. Good to know you know what is causing it. And I'll add my "Wow" to Andre's...FF used to use 70% of my CPU playing this file. Now it's using about 7%. There are some screen redrawing issues though still, which you'll

Re: [svg-developers] FF3.0a2 works great

2007-02-13 Thread Guy Morton
I wish I could report the same happy news. Unfortunately, GranParadiso (on MacOSX at least) fails to render *anything* for me. It even seems buggy in doing normalish browser things like resizing framesets (the toolbar has half disappeared under the window title in my testing). Have a look

Re: [svg-developers] Re: Adobe SVG reload problem

2007-02-13 Thread Guy Morton
I don't know. Ask Adobe perhaps. I can't think of a logical reason for Adobe to ban third parties distributing ASV if Adobe themselves is going to continue to make it available for download from their web site. Guy On 13/02/2007, at 8:30 PM, Dylan Browne wrote: > >> ASV 3 will be *availabl

Re: [svg-developers] Re: Adobe SVG reload problem

2007-02-12 Thread Guy Morton
#x27;re right, and I confirmed it on their EOL FAQ > > http://www.adobe.com/svg/pdfs/ASV_EOL_FAQ.pdf > > The lack of certification on Vista is interesting. Has anyone tried > running > SVG apps in IEx on Vista? > > Ronan > > On Monday 12 February 2007 22:37, Guy Mo

Re: [svg-developers] Re: Adobe SVG reload problem

2007-02-12 Thread Guy Morton
ASV 3 will be *available* indefinitely. It won't be *supported* after Jan 2008. On 13/02/2007, at 5:57 AM, Ronan Oger wrote: > On Monday 12 February 2007 18:42, nphasematt wrote: >> I upgraded my ASV to the beta 6 version, a > > Matt, > > ASV is a retiring product, and ASV6 will never be upgra

Re: [svg-developers] Renesis SVG Player 0.5 launches

2007-02-06 Thread Guy Morton
Good to see progress being made, though this version of the plugin still doesn't run my app... looks like scripting may still be not quite there? Anyone else tried it out? Guy On 06/02/2007, at 1:52 AM, emiasys wrote: > Hello, > > Just a short notice that Renesis SVG Player 0.5 has been la

Re: [svg-developers] Please help. XML display instead of SVG app

2007-01-14 Thread Guy Morton
You are using getTarget() and getOwnerDocument(). These are ASV- specific I believe and should be replaced with their standard equivalents. On 15/01/2007, at 6:40 AM, Marjorie Roswell wrote: > What goes around comes around. SVG now works beautifully at work > (the goal > from this 2-year-ago

Re: [svg-developers] Ajax Issue or ASV issue

2006-12-13 Thread Guy Morton
In my experience, getElementsByTagName() is notoriously unreliable and will give different answers at different times for no apparent reason. Write a function to replace it and use that instead. Guy On 14/12/2006, at 3:32 AM, vinay wrote: > I have a problem with ajax > > Actually i do not kn

[svg-developers] Opera 9.02 on Windows problems

2006-12-12 Thread Guy Morton
Hi all We're seeing some problems with the latest version of Opera on Windows XP. Sometimes our application fully loads and starts up, sometimes it doesn't, but just hangs at the init stage. When it does run, it uses 99% of CPU pretty consistently. On the Mac version of opera running under

Re: [svg-developers] Vaguely seasonal greetings (VSG/SVG)

2006-12-12 Thread Guy Morton
Bravo! :-) On 13/12/2006, at 7:26 AM, Marjorie Roswell wrote: > A Vaguely Seasonal Musical Greeting (AVMG) > To the tune of Old McDonald... an homage to our acronyms: > > Old McDonald raised his arm > And pointed towards the sky > In SVG with ASV, he peered both far and high > With an Opera he

Re: [svg-developers] retraction

2006-12-07 Thread Guy Morton
I'd have used Flash for the sort of thing you were describing anyway. :-) SVG doesn't have the installed base you'd want for a web site splash screen. Flash does, and excels at pretty animated graphics (not that it's only good for that, you can also build pretty cool apps in Flash). Guy O

Re: [svg-developers] retraction

2006-12-07 Thread Guy Morton
Splash screens for web sites are so 90s anyway, you're better off without them altogether. :-) Guy - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your grou

[svg-developers] Adding SVG support to the Flash plugin

2006-12-07 Thread Guy Morton
e'd have a pretty good solution for browsers that require an SVG plugin. Anyway, the above may be completely impractical or technically impossible. I just thought I'd share it in case it's not. :-) Guy On 06/12/2006, at 10:09 AM, John Dowdell wrote: > Guy Morton wrote: >

Re: [svg-developers] why we're converting an SVG splash to Flash ([EMAIL PROTECTED]@!!)

2006-12-07 Thread Guy Morton
Hi Doc I've been programming for the Internet since 1994 as well - long enough to have seen how these things go, and I don't think Adobe are giving ANY indication that they plan to roll SVG support into the Flash plugin. John Dowdell himself hinted that this was probably not going to be an

Re: [svg-developers] Re: WPF/E Goes Beta Community preview available for download

2006-12-06 Thread Guy Morton
How hard would it be to package this as an "SVG plugin"? ie package it in a windows installer a user could download and run and which would install itself and behave as the ASV plugin does today? Guy On 07/12/2006, at 3:53 AM, T Rowley wrote: > On 12/6/06 10:36 AM, Jeff Schiller wrote: >> I

Re: [svg-developers] Re: WPF/E Goes Beta Community preview available for download

2006-12-05 Thread Guy Morton
7;s a tantalising prospect, but I can't see it happening in our lifetimes. Why would Adobe not have announced that intention before now, if that was their plan? Why would they do it? Guy > > Tony > > --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Guy Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [svg-developers] Re: WPF/E Goes Beta Community preview available for download

2006-12-04 Thread Guy Morton
DOM. So by > extension I am a fan of this WPF/E stuff too. Same model. It has > nothing to do with blinders or gullibility or that Bill Gates > invented the Web, Cellular Telephone, and Transistor or whatever else > he invented. > > Kevin > > > > > --- In svg-de

Re: [svg-developers] WPF/E Goes Beta Community preview available for download

2006-12-04 Thread Guy Morton
Nup, I'm not the least bit interested in that. Another proprietary model for delivering "rich web apps"? no thanks. I can't believe *anyone*, except die-hard and blinkered M$ fans, can want this. Sounds like they ought to be able to support SVG using this stuff though, and pretty easily I'd

Re: [svg-developers] Re: Another FF2 text-anchor bug

2006-11-17 Thread Guy Morton
gdoc.getElementById("compValue") != null) > { > var morex = svgdoc.getElementById("compValue").getAttributeNS > (null,"x"); > morex = parseInt(morex) - 40; > svgdoc.getElementById("compValue").setAttributeNS > (null,"x&

Re: [svg-developers] Another FF2 text-anchor bug

2006-11-17 Thread Guy Morton
I've not heard of any progress on this, other than I think they are taking a serious look into why it's happening (at least I hope they are). Another example for them to chew over can only help. There is no workaround as far as i know, which leaves us currently unable to consider FF2 a usab

Re: [svg-developers] Re: Will IE 7.5 or IE8 offer a browser with built-in SVG support?

2006-11-17 Thread Guy Morton
On 17/11/2006, at 7:11 PM, steltenpower wrote: > -Adobe thinks it needs the open format SVG is, to be able to stand > Microsoft competition. As more and more people understand the > advantage of a real open format, but too many people think SVG is an > Adobe(-only) format, Adobe is taking a lowe

Re: [svg-developers] Will IE 7.5 or IE8 offer a browser with built-in SVG support?

2006-11-16 Thread Guy Morton
Whether they do or not will depend entirely on what they think will maximize their profits. Right now I suspect they probably think supporting SVG natively won't do much one way or the other for their bottom line so I, personally, will be surprised if they exert themselves unduly to support

Re: [svg-developers] Re: FF2 text-anchor bug?

2006-11-16 Thread Guy Morton
ayNick/RTG/RTGraph1.svg >> >> The does not have any child text, but is filled >> in by script. If I add child text such as a '-', then it works fine. >> http://www.wpsenergy.com/JayNick/RTG/RTGraph.svg >> >> Jay Nick >> >> --- In svg-develo

Re: [svg-developers] FF2 text-anchor bug?

2006-11-15 Thread Guy Morton
that, or even find a workaround. Even if you don't find a > solution, it will be far easier for others to try to help you. > > My intuition is that you are running into a problem with > elements. > > Regards- > -Doug > > Guy Morton wrote: >> Tim? Did you ha

Re: [svg-developers] Re: FF2 text-anchor bug?

2006-11-15 Thread Guy Morton
> --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, T Rowley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> On 11/8/06 6:11 PM, Guy Morton wrote: >>> It seems in FF2 on Windows that all my text elements that use text- >>> anchor="middle" are now positioned incorrectly. >

Re: [svg-developers] FF2 text-anchor bug?

2006-11-14 Thread Guy Morton
Tim? Did you have any luck with this FF2 bug? Guy On 09/11/2006, at 11:35 AM, T Rowley wrote: > On 11/8/06 6:11 PM, Guy Morton wrote: >> It seems in FF2 on Windows that all my text elements that use text- >> anchor="middle" are now positioned incorrectly. >>

Re: [svg-developers] Re: FF2 text-anchor bug?

2006-11-09 Thread Guy Morton
ecko-based browsers as well? In the meantime, you can test this bug by going to http://lhr.webtrak- lochard.com/svg. That URL will load the SVG directly (it won't work in IE/ASV though). regards Guy On 10/11/2006, at 12:55 AM, Martin Honnen wrote: > --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com,

[svg-developers] Map servers

2006-11-08 Thread Guy Morton
Who has a recommendation for a source of map data? Prefer a hosted solution rather than setting up our own map server (eg www.arcwebservices.com). Would like access to satellite/aerial imagery if possible. What services have people used? What's hot? What's not? Guy - To unsubscribe s

Re: [svg-developers] FF2 text-anchor bug?

2006-11-08 Thread Guy Morton
till being aligned correctly, but some (like the tooltips) are not. Guy On 09/11/2006, at 11:35 AM, T Rowley wrote: > On 11/8/06 6:11 PM, Guy Morton wrote: >> It seems in FF2 on Windows that all my text elements that use text- >> anchor="middle" are now positioned in

[svg-developers] FF2 text-anchor bug?

2006-11-08 Thread Guy Morton
It seems in FF2 on Windows that all my text elements that use text- anchor="middle" are now positioned incorrectly. FF2 on Mac doesn't show the problem (though it has other text bugs) Anyone know anything about this? Anyone at Mozilla working on it? It is a MAJOR pain. In fact, FF2 on windows

Re: 0,0 au centre [svg-developers] Re: SVG 1.1 Layers

2006-10-13 Thread Guy Morton
It's not forbidden, it's just that most of us have at best a smattering of high-school French, so if you want answers you *may* have to lower yourself to our level. ;-) OR On ne l'interdit pas, il est seulement que la plupart d'entre nous a au mieux un notion du Français de lycée, ainsi si

Re: [svg-developers] Adobe extends ASV customer support and download availability

2006-10-11 Thread Guy Morton
Yes, good on you for listening. Now if you could just finish the beta version (v6) of the plugin - I live that little critter! Guy On 11/10/2006, at 5:04 PM, Antoine Quint wrote: > On 11 oct. 2006, at 01:47, Paton J. Lewis wrote: > >> In response to customer feedback, Adobe has extended custom

Re: [svg-developers] SVG retrieving value

2006-09-29 Thread Guy Morton
document.getElementById('sometext').firstChild.nodeValue - you can get and set it using this syntax Guy On 29/09/2006, at 8:18 PM, gnylarichard wrote: > I can get attribute values from the following, but how do i get the > value of the text Richard? > > font-family="Arial" font-size="5.6" >

Re: [svg-developers] Re: COALITION - (WAS: Announcement: Adobe to Discontinue Adobe SVG Viewer)

2006-09-18 Thread Guy Morton
Yeah, but it's not too professional-looking to have to give a list of "abandoned" websites that happen to host the plugin and hope that joe public will trust that any software thus downloaded isn't riddled with virii and worms. who's going to guarantee that it isn't? You? I love civil disobe

Re: [svg-developers] COALITION - (WAS: Announcement: Adobe to Discontinue Adobe SVG Viewer)

2006-09-17 Thread Guy Morton
Yes, not much use if you want joe public to go and install it though. P2P is hardly a trusted source in most people's books. The same appies to everyone adopting a stance of civil disobedience and hosting it on their own sites. Adobe ought to host it for a year or two more than they've ann

Re: [svg-developers] Re: Announcement: Adobe to Discontinue Adobe SVG Viewer

2006-09-12 Thread Guy Morton
N...don't go over to the dark side Luke!! Web solutions should be based on STANDARDS, people! Guy On 13/09/2006, at 3:45 AM, kggsystem wrote: > --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Tell me about it, a complete nightmare. >> >> Our apps solely work on SVG w

Re: [svg-developers] Re: Is Adobe's greed clearing the way for XAML

2006-09-07 Thread Guy Morton
crosoft followed Adobe's lead and > announced VML end-of-life in the same (unacceptable) manner as Adobe. > Microsoft is considerably more sensitive to supporting their existing > community of developers. When VML is EOL'd, Microsoft will give > something > like a 5-y

Re: [svg-developers] Re: Is Adobe's greed clearing the way for XAML

2006-09-07 Thread Guy Morton
Yes, it gives the lie to the lip service they give to standards adherence. M$ in particular only support those standards that they feel benefit their business (like someone else said, there's no other reason for them to release software for free). Honestly, how hard would it have been from M

Re: [svg-developers] Announcement: Adobe to Discontinue Adobe SVG Viewer

2006-09-06 Thread Guy Morton
Anyone had any experience of converting SVG to flex? Clearly Adobe is hoping that's what will happen. Guy On 07/09/2006, at 3:00 AM, Doug Schepers wrote: > Hi, folks- > > There is a FAQ associated with this announcement, but of course, > it's in > Web-unfriendly PDF. I'm forwarding on the t

Re: [svg-developers] Help on porting Windows IE ASV SVG app to Linux laptop

2006-08-24 Thread Guy Morton
hear hear. i'm an opera convert. SVG is a little slower at times but it doesn't use as much CPU as FF and it's more solid and has the best standards support of any browser, imho. I can also personally vouch for the responsiveness of the Opera team. if everyone used opera, my life would be *s

Re: [svg-developers] Re: IE tries to download, not display svg file

2006-08-15 Thread Guy Morton
how are you embedding your SVG? in an embed tag? do you have a content-type attribute in there? is there a difference between the IE versions? are you compressing the SVG file with gzip? Guy On 16/08/2006, at 2:42 AM, Sean wrote: > I had put this off to the side thinking it might have been

ASV v2.0 detection (Was Re: [svg-developers] "Data not available")

2006-08-03 Thread Guy Morton
sn't silently failing to work, with the end user believing they are SVG capable while actually seeing your content displayed in the ASV2.0 plugin? Guy On 03/08/2006, at 2:08 PM, Phi Tran wrote: > On 8/2/06, Guy Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Hi Jo

Re: [svg-developers] "Data not available"

2006-08-02 Thread Guy Morton
8/2006, at 2:18 AM, Jonathan Chetwynd wrote: > Guy, > > are you sure the links aren't local? > eg the adobe one clearly isn't > > cheers > > Jonathan Chetwynd > > > > On 2 Aug 2006, at 07:51, Guy Morton wrote: > > I'm hoping someone more

[svg-developers] "Data not available"

2006-08-01 Thread Guy Morton
I'm hoping someone more experienced than I can chuck us a clue on this one. We have a user of our app that claims that they can see the little Adobe-provided "Spinning balls" SVG movie but that when they go to load our app all they see is a message in plain text saying "Data not available"

[svg-developers] Firefox 2 beta

2006-07-30 Thread Guy Morton
Some good SVG improvements in FFb2, especially for Mac users of SVG! They seem to have fixed the colour and bitmap bug that made bitmaps go screwy and *most* of my text is now visible, though for some reason it's all italicised. Some is still missing or invisible - can anyone from the Firef

Re: [svg-developers] Fwd: FW: Fwd: forward this mail even if u dont read it! please

2006-07-19 Thread Guy Morton
Hey Ganesh Forwarding chain email hoaxes onto ANYONE is bad, but forwarding them onto a MAILING LIST is especially bad form and likely to get you removed from the mailing list in question. Well it would in my perfect world anyway. The Red Cross WILL NOT BE DONATING 10c to ANYONE just becaus

Re: [svg-developers] Re: Firefox CPU usage

2006-07-18 Thread Guy Morton
Has anyone written up a page comparing the strengths, weaknesses and performance pitfalls for each of the SVG implementations? That would be a handy reference. Guy On 18/07/2006, at 11:13 PM, ddailey wrote: > > From: "Guy Morton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> ...

Re: [svg-developers] Re: getSVGDocument works locally but not on server

2006-07-18 Thread Guy Morton
Also, consider firing your function via an onload event - that way it shouldn't be called until the SVG is loaded On 18/07/2006, at 11:36 PM, Martin Honnen wrote: > --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, "jack2wsx" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> > frameborder=0 width=100% height=100% src='R

Re: [svg-developers] Re: Firefox CPU usage

2006-07-18 Thread Guy Morton
Well yes, it uses 100% CPU on XP2 but also under Mac OS X. The app is pretty busy and does a lot of stuff, and it loops through a bunch of code once per second. Curiously, if viewed on its own in Firefox it uses slightly less CPU than if it's embedded in a html wrapper. Our app animates vect

[svg-developers] passing params to SVG

2006-07-10 Thread Guy Morton
Hi all Someone must have encountered this before (I hope so anyway). I'm trying to pass parameters to an SVG app. I can do this using URLs (eg /my.svg?param1=1¶m2=2) and this works fine, until you hit the IE 5.5 bug talked about as bug 3a on this page: http:// www.swiftview.com/tech/tests/ie

[svg-developers] Firefox on MacOSX, or is it Intel-related?

2006-07-03 Thread Guy Morton
I've just got myself a macbook pro running mac os x 10.7, and i downloaded firefox (the current version) and SVG is terrible in it. the bitmaps are all in a weird colour space and the text is outlined weirdly and so on. Is this just a problem with FF on a mac? Guy

Re: [svg-developers] Re: Mouse Cursor Handling

2006-06-29 Thread Guy Morton
and you can use the element around other elements to make it happen in ASV. ugly, but it works. Guy Andreas Neumann wrote: > yes, just use the cursor attribute. > > http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG11/interact.html#Cursors > > Cursors aren't implemented in Adobe SVG viewer version 3 but in all other >

Re: [svg-developers] Trouble with hosting company (a bit off topic)

2006-06-28 Thread Guy Morton
This seems to indicate that they are hosting your DNS and using their control of that to prevent you from changing hosts - this is not legal as far as I am aware - your domain name belongs to you, not them, and you are entitled to change your DNS records as you see fit. This is all you need to

Re: [svg-developers] Re: Opera 9.0 SVG engine speed

2006-06-23 Thread Guy Morton
; you would > use suspendRedraw(), Opera would be much quicker. > > Andreas > > PS: but yes, I also saw that the rendering speed is slower when dragging > bigger elements > on top of other elements. Thats a fact in the current version. It seems like > the newest Bati

[svg-developers] Opera 9.0 SVG engine speed

2006-06-22 Thread Guy Morton
Has anyone got any feedback or comments regarding the speed of Opera's engine? I've noted that it appears to slow down proportionally to the amount of screen it needs to redraw. It seems quite a bit slower than FF and a lot slower than ASV. Where is the bottleneck? Can we do anything to optimis

Re: [svg-developers] preserving F11 'full screen' functionality across browsers

2006-06-18 Thread Guy Morton
why not use embed? it seems to work fine in firefox and IE/ASV. I set it to use 99.9% for width and height and haven't seen any issues. Guy Lance Dyas wrote: > krugerboy1971 wrote: > >> >> >> This seems to work nicely across all implementations - the only >> problem is that in Firefox and

  1   2   >