[Tagging] Crosses and how to tag them

2020-03-04 Thread António Madeira
Hi there. I was searching a suitable tag to map this kinds of crosses, which are always religious and most of the time historic: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Cruzeiro_no_Largo_da_Rep%C3%BAblica_Agualva.jpg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Cruzeiro_da_Independ%C3%AAncia.jpg

Re: [Tagging] How to tag an utilitarian fountain?

2020-02-04 Thread António Madeira
Thank you for your input and collaboration in clarifying this important issue regarding fountains. I agree with your changes and I'll adapt it also in the Portuguese wiki. I also thank to everyone who participated and helped discuss this. Regards, António. Às 12:21 de 04/02/2020, European

Re: [Tagging] How to tag an utilitarian fountain?

2020-02-05 Thread António Madeira
That is exactly my opinion on this matter. Às 19:06 de 05/02/2020, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging escreveu: 5 Feb 2020, 21:06 by selfishseaho...@gmail.com: On Mon, 3 Feb 2020 at 00:35, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: amenity=drinking_water is used for; streams

Re: [Tagging] How to tag an utilitarian fountain?

2020-02-03 Thread António Madeira
Exactly my point. That's why I say the wiki is too ambiguous and restrictive. A practical example (more simple, but still historic and cultural one): https://www.diariocoimbra.pt/files/news/5d8411800e7e4.png If I map this with amenity=drinking_water any Portuguese who uses OSM for searching

Re: [Tagging] How to tag an utilitarian fountain?

2020-02-02 Thread António Madeira
Às 19:42 de 02/02/2020, Martin Koppenhoefer escreveu: sent from a phone Il giorno 2 feb 2020, alle ore 23:33, António Madeira ha scritto: Saying that "A fountain for cultural / decorational / recreational purposes. (...) This might range from the usual fountain that you'll find

[Tagging] How to tag an utilitarian fountain?

2020-02-02 Thread António Madeira
Hi there. In Portugal and most Mediterranean countries, there are literally thousands of fountains that are not decorative like those examples at the bottom of the wiki page: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dfountain I'm talking about fountains that exist in every small village

Re: [Tagging] How to tag an utilitarian fountain?

2020-02-02 Thread António Madeira
ample does not have water running in the picture, but if it can be used (perhaps there is a handle which turns on the water?), the same tag would work. I would generally use amenity=fountain for decorative water features which are not designed for drinking. Joseph E On Sun, Feb 2, 2020, 22:30 Antón

Re: [Tagging] How to tag an utilitarian fountain?

2020-02-02 Thread António Madeira
The problem I see here is that the amenity=fountain wiki description is too restrictive. Saying that "A fountain for cultural / decorational / recreational purposes. (...) This might range from the usual fountain that you'll find in lots of city centers, up to large fountains like the Trevi

Re: [Tagging] How to revive a tag proposal?

2020-01-15 Thread António Madeira
Às 06:29 de 15/01/2020, Martin Koppenhoefer escreveu: I would like to make a proper wiki and add that feature to iD these are 2 completely unrelated actions, for inclusion in iD you do not need a wiki entry nor does it influence the decision to add it or not (according to one of the

Re: [Tagging] How to revive a tag proposal?

2020-01-14 Thread António Madeira
never done that and I would like to have more information on how to do that first step and use what already was started with the previous proposal. Às 14:45 de 14/01/2020, Andy Townsend escreveu: On 14/01/2020 17:33, António Madeira via Tagging wrote: What can I do to revive this proposal and implemen

Re: [Tagging] Crosses and how to tag them

2020-03-05 Thread António Madeira
Yes, both wikis are (were)poorly exemplified, especially when comparing between them. As a 900 years catholic country, Portugal has thousands of crosses everywhere and it would be nice to clearly differentiate them. The man_made=cross wiki is now much more explicit and not so restrict with that

Re: [Tagging] Refining heritage tag

2020-04-14 Thread António Madeira
Às 10:15 de 14/04/2020, Paul Allen escreveu: On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 at 04:33, António Madeira via Tagging mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org>> wrote: - is ref:xxx=* a good solution to add the official reference code/number? No.  But that's what we have.  With hindsight we'd hav

Re: [Tagging] insurance health

2020-04-14 Thread António Madeira
I agree that a logical breakdown of the insurance field should be preferred rather than creating several type of insurance offices. I would rather use office=insurance + insurance="type" than office=health_insurance;car_insurance;house_insurance;etc. Às 21:16 de 14/04/2020, Greg Troxel

Re: [Tagging] Refining heritage tag

2020-04-17 Thread António Madeira
Hi, Martin. Thank you for your input. Às 06:38 de 17/04/2020, Martin Koppenhoefer escreveu: Am Fr., 17. Apr. 2020 um 04:27 Uhr schrieb António Madeira via Tagging mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org>>: After communicating with lutz from Historic.Place, he told me they didn't

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Refugee Site Location

2020-04-17 Thread António Madeira
If a refugee site has a well established name (and, unfortunately, there are many examples all over the world), I don't see why it can't have a "place" tag. Às 18:24 de 17/04/2020, lukas-...@web.de escreveu: Hi, my question is whether this then rather would be something for the "place" tag? Or

Re: [Tagging] Refining heritage tag

2020-04-17 Thread António Madeira
Now that I've read the German wiki more carefully, I realized that they consider World Heritage not only as natural areas but also for buildings, although they clearly state "Always with *boundary

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Refugee Site Location

2020-04-16 Thread António Madeira
Maybe I missed something on this long thread but I don't understand why we need to divide large refugee site from small refugee site. Why create ambiguities if all of them are refugee sites? Do we divide big schools from small schools? Or small theatres from big theatres? Why don't we just create

Re: [Tagging] city limit sign end

2020-04-12 Thread António Madeira
That's not correct. This tag is used all over the world, as you can check at taginfo: https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/traffic_sign=city_limit#map Às 10:55 de 12/04/2020, Volker Schmidt escreveu: Looking closer it turns out that the city_limit=* key is exclusively used in Germany, but

Re: [Tagging] Refining heritage tag

2020-04-20 Thread António Madeira
and not so ambiguous data wise, but I don't know if that's technically better or if there are actual problems with ref tag being "all over the place". Às 19:56 de 20/04/2020, Paul Allen escreveu: On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 at 16:47, António Madeira mailto:antoniomade...@gmx.com>> wrote:

Re: [Tagging] Refining heritage tag

2020-04-20 Thread António Madeira
This is the main reason why I came up with this refinement. For example, if I search for "ref:" at taginfo, there are *millions* of results. I believe this has implications in data management, although I'm by no means an expert on that matter. Às 20:57 de 20/04/2020, Paul Allen escreveu: As it

Re: [Tagging] Refining heritage tag

2020-04-20 Thread António Madeira
So, what's the rationale for using heritage:operator and not heritage:ref? It's these inconsistencies that breaks my logic... Às 22:19 de 20/04/2020, Paul Allen escreveu: On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 at 02:10, António Madeira mailto:antoniomade...@gmx.com>> wrote: This is the main reason

Re: [Tagging] Refining heritage tag

2020-04-20 Thread António Madeira
So, I would like to know what would be the technical pros and cons regarding heritage:ref:operator=* vs ref:operator=* , i.e. the database use, rendering, consulting, exporting etc. Às 21:04 de 17/04/2020, Paul Allen escreveu: On Sat, 18 Apr 2020 at 00:43, Martin Koppenhoefer

Re: [Tagging] city limit sign end

2020-04-12 Thread António Madeira
Sorry, my bad. Às 19:45 de 12/04/2020, Volker Schmidt escreveu: My statement about the limitation to Germany regarded the tag city_limit=* , not the tag traffic_sign=city_limit. On Sun, 12 Apr 2020, 20:07 António Madeira, mailto:antoniomade...@gmx.com>> wrote: That's not correct. Th

Re: [Tagging] Updating definition and description of place=square

2020-03-30 Thread António Madeira
Às 05:08 de 30/03/2020, Martin Koppenhoefer escreveu: Am Mo., 30. März 2020 um 01:11 Uhr schrieb Kevin Kenny mailto:kevin.b.ke...@gmail.com>>: One example: Berkeley Square in London.  In form, it's a public garden, but even the English designate it a town square. As I understand

Re: [Tagging] Refining heritage tag

2020-04-21 Thread António Madeira
w, but it might also have a heritage:operator= which will be a different value. This isn’t necessary with the ref, since the operator is in the key in the format ref: —Joseph On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 7:24 PM Paul Allen mailto:pla16...@gmail.com>> wrote: On Tue, 21 Apr 2020

Re: [Tagging] Refining heritage tag

2020-04-21 Thread António Madeira
Thanks, that's all I needed to know. Às 20:43 de 21/04/2020, Martin Koppenhoefer escreveu: by looking at the combination: you query for heritage AND ref tags in combination. No need to change the tags for this. ___ Tagging mailing list

[Tagging] How to tag way with two traffic signs affecting different directions?

2020-05-02 Thread António Madeira
Hi there. Following this topic, I would like to extend the discussion to the mail list, because I think this is an important issue that should have a broad solution. https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=69011 Several months ago, I stumbled upon a problem which I found no solution

Re: [Tagging] How to tag way with two traffic signs affecting different directions?

2020-05-02 Thread António Madeira
Às 15:36 de 02/05/2020, Philip Barnes escreveu: Hi António Normally I would add direction:forward or direction:backward to a stop or give_way to indicate which direction it applies in. Where speed limits are different you can use maxspeed:backward and maxspeed:forward. Phil (trigpoint)

Re: [Tagging] Please fix unnamed square tagging / was: ... description of place=square

2020-03-22 Thread António Madeira
I agree that the place=square needs some kind of polishing, specially regarding name tag, which should be mandatory. In Portugal, the definition of square can have three meanings, depending on its size and region, but it's easy to map them because they all have name. The problem with iD can be

Re: [Tagging] Please fix unnamed square tagging / was: ... description of place=square

2020-03-22 Thread António Madeira
/i.imgur.com/AIqEuuC.png Às 21:41 de 22/03/2020, Joseph Eisenberg escreveu: Curious: what is the translation used in Portuguese? Do you also know the English description of place=square used in iD? On 3/23/20, António Madeira wrote: I agree that the place=square needs some kind of pol

[Tagging] How to tag a social vacation centre?

2020-09-10 Thread António Madeira
Hi there. How should I tag an area dedicated to vacations, which is not a resort, only for members of an institution? Those centres are very common near the sea, and they range from kids camps (sons of government workers), to bank or police pensioners/workers. I was about to tag that as

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a social vacation centre?

2020-09-11 Thread António Madeira
park. This notice should go away." Às 22:34 de 11/09/2020, Graeme Fitzpatrick escreveu: On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 at 09:54, António Madeira mailto:antoniomade...@gmx.com>> wrote: I agree that a resort should be with tourism, but I really don't know the reasons that mad

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a social vacation centre?

2020-09-11 Thread António Madeira
Às 20:20 de 11/09/2020, Graeme Fitzpatrick escreveu: On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 at 07:01, António Madeira via Tagging mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org>> wrote: I ended choosing leisure=resort. There is an ill documented key for this tag, which seems to address the problem of de

Re: [Tagging] automated edits seem to remove crossing=zebra drastically

2020-09-16 Thread António Madeira
I do believe that uncontrolled should be deprecated in favour of marked, which iD already did. I also agree that marked/unmarked was a good improved in the crossing scheme, but it should be cleared on the wiki page, which seems to favour the uncontrolled tag. About your considerations: 1 - That

Re: [Tagging] kerb=regular vs. raised

2020-07-29 Thread António Madeira
Às 20:45 de 29/07/2020, Martin Koppenhoefer escreveu: eg this is pretty raised http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/07/29/article-2380778-1B0CC26E05DC-458_634x386.jpg Cheers Martin lol ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] How to tag correct number of lanes for freeway on/off ramps?

2020-07-03 Thread António Madeira
I believe the correct way is mapping it with 4 lanes where the 4th lane begins (with turn=|||slight_right) and put the motorway_junction where it splits. Then, the ramp gets 2 lanes and the main road 3. Às 17:38 de 03/07/2020, Matthew Woehlke escreveu: On 03/07/2020 16.28, Martin Koppenhoefer

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a graffiti?

2020-07-03 Thread António Madeira
Here in Portugal, is very common for Town Halls to promote graffiti festivals, with buildings and public spaces assigning spaces where urban artists can do their artworks. There are world renowned Portuguese graffiters thanks to this subculture that it's present in almost every Portuguese city.

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a graffiti?

2020-07-01 Thread António Madeira
Paul Allen escreveu: On Thu, 2 Jul 2020 at 00:05, António Madeira mailto:antoniomade...@gmx.com>> wrote: So, what is a notable graffiti? A signed one? A big one? An authorized one? Notable graffiti is graffiti that people take note of. It's as simple as that. It's subjecti

[Tagging] How to tag a graffiti?

2020-07-01 Thread António Madeira
What is the criteria to tag a graffiti? Since there's no wiki for this type of artwork, the only information that exists is "A notable graffiti work", here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:artwork_type So, what is a notable graffiti? A signed one? A big one? An authorized one? There are

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a graffiti?

2020-07-01 Thread António Madeira
Well, depends on what you consider a mural to be. The distinction between a mural and a graffiti should also be better defined. A mural can be any painting or artwork apllied on a wall, indoors or outdoors. I would say that an outdoor mural is always a graffiti if it is painted. Às 21:21 de

Re: [Tagging] Help explain the difference between path and track

2020-06-10 Thread António Madeira
Às 06:03 de 10/06/2020, Martin Koppenhoefer escreveu: sent from a phone On 10. Jun 2020, at 02:31, Kevin Kenny wrote: In terms of function, 'track' and 'service' (with or without 'driveway') are practically interchangeable - at least in terms of what they provide to the road network.

Re: [Tagging] Do we map pedestrian crossings twice?

2020-06-10 Thread António Madeira
Às 17:16 de 10/06/2020, Jack Armstrong escreveu: From: Clifford Snow To help me understand, below are three schemes for crossings. Which one(s) best describe your suggested way of mapping. 1. Tagging both the crossing and a node on the highway.

Re: [Tagging] Do we map pedestrian crossings twice?

2020-06-10 Thread António Madeira
Às 19:29 de 10/06/2020, Graeme Fitzpatrick escreveu: On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 at 06:30, Clifford Snow mailto:cliff...@snowandsnow.us>> wrote: Sorry - I should have been clearer on #3. The red dot is a validation warning that the two ways intersect, but it isn't marked as a

Re: [Tagging] Do we map pedestrian crossings twice?

2020-06-10 Thread António Madeira
I agree that the wiki should be consistent on the use of these two ways of mapping a highway crossing. Personally, I always use highway=crossing on nodes and only footway=crossing when I can connect the point to a pedestrian feature for routing purposes. Às 12:44 de 10/06/2020, Jack Armstrong

Re: [Tagging] Compliments and thanks to the "iD people"!

2020-06-12 Thread António Madeira
Unfortunately, it's still possible to break relations when merging ways. Às 08:35 de 12/06/2020, Peter Elderson escreveu: (Not directly a tagging issue, but very often mentioned here, and rarely in a positive way!) I would like to thank the iD developers for their work on keeping route

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - wait

2020-12-12 Thread António Madeira
Greetings. As discussed here in the mailing list, me and L___I have created a proposal for the key "wait": https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/wait Please, comment here in the list or in the wiki talk page. Previous discussions:

Re: [Tagging] key covered=* applied to storage tanks

2023-01-12 Thread António Madeira
08:28, António Madeira wrote: > Open tanks are common in wild fires territories, like in Portugal, and > I'm probably in Spain and Greece. Not in Australia. > They're used by helicopters and firefighters, who depend on them in > heavy mountainous regions, whe

[Tagging] key covered=* applied to storage tanks

2023-01-09 Thread António Madeira
Greetings. There are closed and open storage tanks, and I think is important to differentiate them, specially those used by firefighters and rural communities to fight wild fires. The approved proposal for the key covered=* states "C. denote an area such as an underground parking lot, a

Re: [Tagging] key covered=* applied to storage tanks

2023-01-11 Thread António Madeira
, but most are refilled by firefighters with river water or other sources. Às 05:54 de 11/01/2023, Warin escreveu: On 10/1/23 03:49, António Madeira wrote: Greetings. There are closed and open storage tanks, and I think is important to differentiate them, specially those used by firefighters

Re: [Tagging] amentiy=donation_centre?

2022-11-12 Thread António Madeira
There's office=charity and shop=charity. I think the second one corresponds to what you're looking for. Regards, António. Às 19:26 de 12/11/2022, Timothy Noname escreveu: I think people already use Amenity=recycling Recycling_type=container or centre And then specify whether it takes clothes

Re: [Tagging] amentiy=donation_centre?

2022-11-12 Thread António Madeira
of activity. Às 23:51 de 12/11/2022, Minh Nguyen escreveu: Vào lúc 12:06 2022-11-12, António Madeira đã viết: There's office=charity and shop=charity. I think the second one corresponds to what you're looking for. Maybe, but only if there's some tag to clarify that the shop=charity only

Re: [Tagging] amentiy=donation_centre?

2022-11-14 Thread António Madeira
It seems good. It even has a subtag social_facility =clothing_bank Às 11:41 de 14/11/2022, Martin Koppenhoefer escreveu: maybe these can be seen as

Re: [Tagging] Difference between graffiti and mural

2023-04-17 Thread António Madeira
, if (and this is is also one of OSM's good practices) it's relevant enough to be present in the map in one, three, six months from now. Regards, António. Às 08:37 de 17/04/2023, Martin Koppenhoefer escreveu: sent from a phone On 17 Apr 2023, at 01:08, António Madeira wrote: The question is: is it relevant

Re: [Tagging] Difference between graffiti and mural

2023-04-16 Thread António Madeira
I believe it has to do with its longevity and legality. Normally, notable art works in the streets are allowed by the city authorities and thus last longer. Minor graffiti tends to disappear, either by removal or overlapped by other graffiti/paint/whatever. Regards, António. Às 19:51 de

Re: [Tagging] Difference between graffiti and mural

2023-04-16 Thread António Madeira
egards, António. Às 16:06 de 16/04/2023, Daniel Capilla escreveu: On 4/15/23 at 20:51, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: why only "notable"?  On 4/16/23 at 15:59,  António Madeira via Tagging wrote: I believe it has to do with its longevity and legality. Normally, notable art wo

Re: [Tagging] key covered=* applied to storage tanks

2023-02-03 Thread António Madeira
Às 07:59 de 03/02/2023, Warin escreveu: In my opinion, the cover=* key is the most adequate in these situations, because there's no way to define what the roof/coverage of these storage tanks would be if they had one. Stating that a an emergency storage tank is covered=no informs that it can

Re: [Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - landcover proposal V2

2023-02-13 Thread António Madeira
I was about to list some points by which I think this proposal has great advantages, but I'll stick to these three, where Vincent sums it up much more elegantly than I could have written. As it happened before and it's still happening with other schemes, we should always try to improve the

Re: [Tagging] key covered=* applied to storage tanks

2023-02-02 Thread António Madeira
I agree with you, Marc, when you say the use of covered=* is kind of a distortion of the tag. That's why I opened this discussion, because I also had that doubt. Às 14:02 de 12/01/2023, Marc_marc escreveu: roof=* is indeed maybe too specific. but closed or not tank and tank covered by another

[Tagging] How to match multiple destinations and destination:ref?

2020-02-13 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
Hi there. I've stumbled with a problem for which I couldn't find a satisfactory answer. Say I have a destination sign in a motorway junction exit with 4 destinations, but only the second one has a ref. How do we match the right destination with its ref? I've noticed that we can use "none" in

Re: [Tagging] How to match multiple destinations and destination:ref?

2020-02-13 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
This was of a great help, Jan. That tool is awesome! Wouldn't it be the right time to go ahead with this proposal? I mean, this is used for most of the routing softwares that uses OSM, including OSMAnd. Às 14:17 de 13/02/2020, Jan Michel escreveu: On 13.02.20 18:02, António Madeira via

Re: [Tagging] How to match multiple destinations and destination:ref?

2020-02-13 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
g/wiki/User:Mueschel/DestinationTagging Jan On 13.02.20 16:07, António Madeira via Tagging wrote: Hi there. I've stumbled with a problem for which I couldn't find a satisfactory answer. Say I have a destination sign in a motorway junction exit with 4 destinations, but only the second one has a

Re: [Tagging] How to tag an utilitarian fountain?

2020-02-06 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
A fountain should be first and foremost a place where there's water served to the public. The concept of "sculptural and/or decorational" should be just a component of the fountain, depending on the country/culture. As its historical/heritage value. In Portugal, where there are thousands of

Re: [Tagging] How to tag an utilitarian fountain?

2020-02-06 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
springs, wells, taps, drinking fountains, etc.) Regards. Às 11:40 de 06/02/2020, Paul Allen escreveu: On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 at 14:15, António Madeira via Tagging mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org>> wrote: A fountain should be first and foremost a place where there's water served to t

Re: [Tagging] How to tag an utilitarian fountain?

2020-02-06 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
depending on the country. A person outside Europe will still find what she/he wants by searching the tag fountain, either with OR without drinking_water. Às 14:24 de 06/02/2020, Paul Allen escreveu: On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 at 16:48, António Madeira mailto:antoniomade...@gmx.com>> wrote: Pau

Re: [Tagging] How to tag an utilitarian fountain?

2020-02-06 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
That's what drinking_water=yes is used for, right? In Britain, you don't use drinking_water=yes, in Portugal (or whatever country it may be) we use amenity=fountain (which is always decorative/ornamental/historic, so it fits your conception of fountain) AND drinking_water=yes. For me, it's

Re: [Tagging] How to tag an utilitarian fountain?

2020-02-06 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
Just to complement. If you come to Portugal and want to find drinkin water, you should know that most fountains have drinking water, like I need to know the opposite when I go to the UK. Also, if you come here, you need to know that we drive on the opposite side of the road. That doesn't mean

Re: [Tagging] How to tag an utilitarian fountain?

2020-02-06 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
. In the majority of European countries, it does imply, so it's just fair and logical that the wiki reflects that. Às 13:00 de 06/02/2020, Paul Allen escreveu: On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 at 15:27, António Madeira mailto:antoniomade...@gmx.com>> wrote: If, in Britain, a fountain is normally a orna

Re: [Tagging] How to tag an utilitarian fountain?

2020-02-06 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
, Portugal or wherever, with the difference that the chance of them having potable water is higher. Às 16:02 de 06/02/2020, Paul Allen escreveu: On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 at 18:10, António Madeira mailto:antoniomade...@gmx.com>> wrote: If you come to Portugal and want to find drinkin water, you

Re: [Tagging] How to tag an utilitarian fountain?

2020-02-06 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
This also is important. There are fountains (not many) which have an official document in situ to inform that the water was tested, with the analysis results and date. This could go into another key, which would compose even better the fountain tag. I had never noticed that legal=yes/legal=no

Re: [Tagging] How to tag an utilitarian fountain?

2020-02-06 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
Ok, let's stay in the same page then. :) Regarding schools, I don't know what you mean, because here, schools dont have fountains, just taps and those of the bubbler type (maybe old century schools have fountains in their yards or something similar). Às 18:20 de 06/02/2020, Paul Allen escreveu:

[Tagging] How to revive a tag proposal?

2020-01-14 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
/olive_oil_mill I contacted its author one month ago via OSM profile, but received no answer. What can I do to revive this proposal and implement this tag? Regards, António Madeira. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https

Re: [Tagging] Refining heritage tag

2020-04-14 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
Thanks, Paul. I'll contact them then. Às 17:44 de 14/04/2020, Paul Allen escreveu: On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 at 21:02, António Madeira mailto:antoniomade...@gmx.com>> wrote: Às 10:15 de 14/04/2020, Paul Allen escreveu: They're the ones you'd have to convince to alter thei

Re: [Tagging] Refining heritage tag

2020-04-16 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
is wrong in this context. heritage:xxx:website=* - Used for the heritage official website (international or national). Regards, António. Às 17:49 de 14/04/2020, António Madeira via Tagging escreveu: Thanks, Paul. I'll contact them then. Às 17:44 de 14/04/2020, Paul Allen escreveu: On Tue, 14

[Tagging] Refining heritage tag

2020-04-13 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
Hi there. In the last few days, the Portuguese community has been trying to create a national standardization with the heritage tag. We came up to a possible solution which can be seen at the wiki page based on the previous information on the

Re: [Tagging] Please fix unnamed square tagging / was: ... description of place=square

2020-03-23 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
Although in Portugal squares are very well defined, either from their physical significance or from their name, this is surely not the case in every country. Maybe one of their main common characteristics is that they're open urban areas, a point of confluence where people can gather for social

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a social vacation centre?

2020-09-11 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
Fitzpatrick escreveu: On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 at 09:40, António Madeira mailto:antoniomade...@gmx.com>> wrote: Hi there. How should I tag an area dedicated to vacations, which is not a resort, only for members of an institution? Those centres are very common near t

Re: [Tagging] Tagging a government job centre

2020-10-11 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
In Portugal, the Government's employment centre gets you a job and gives you professional formation. It has  a list of all the companies seeking for workers and distribute them based a very specific system. The money that comes from the Government to people without job is given via Social

Re: [Tagging] Tagging a government job centre

2020-10-09 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
You can not duplicate tags on the same feature... Às 20:29 de 09/10/2020, Graeme Fitzpatrick escreveu: On Sat, 10 Oct 2020 at 09:12, António Madeira via Tagging mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org>> wrote: There's office=employment_agency which doesn't seem to fit here, cause it

Re: [Tagging] Tagging a government job centre

2020-10-09 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
    government=data_protection I think it's just a matter of thinking about the correct value here. Às 20:30 de 09/10/2020, Jeremy Harris escreveu: On 10/10/2020 00:09, António Madeira via Tagging wrote: I was searching for a way of tagging a government job centre and I found there's no suitable

[Tagging] Tagging a government job centre

2020-10-09 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
Hi there. I was searching for a way of tagging a government job centre and I found there's no suitable way of doing this. There's office=employment_agency which doesn't seem to fit here, cause it seems to correspond to private companies who work with this kind of services. I thought about using

Re: [Tagging] Tagging a government job centre

2020-10-10 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
e actual tagging This means also that your idea of creating a new "government" related tag would be in conflict with the established tagging, at least in Germany Volker (Italy)      > On 10/10/2020 00:09, António Madeira via Tagging wrote: >> I was searching for a way of tagging

Re: [Tagging] Tagging a government job centre

2020-10-11 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
intended to write... On Sun, 11 Oct 2020 at 02:16, António Madeira via Tagging mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org>> wrote: Anyway, maybe the wiki could be updated to reflect the entire scope of the office=employment_agency Perhaps.  With qualifications and exceptions.  In the UK ther

Re: [Tagging] oneway=yes on motorways

2020-08-18 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
I just want wikis to be in accordance between them. As they are now, the induce mappers with doubt. Mind you that "These ways should all point direction of travel and imply oneway=yes (like junction=roundabout), therefore the oneway tag is redundant and should be avoided." is not telling that

Re: [Tagging] oneway=yes on motorways

2020-08-14 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
So, should this contradiction be eliminated from the wiki or not? Às 09:32 de 26/05/2020, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging escreveu: Based on my experience it is usually better to write something, even not ideal and ask for a review. "Someone should write/expand it" is typically ignored. May

Re: [Tagging] oneway=yes on motorways

2020-08-14 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
In this section, I suggest changing the text: "These ways should all point direction of travel and be tagged with oneway=yes." to "These ways should all point direction of travel and imply oneway=yes (like

Re: [Tagging] oneway=yes on motorways

2020-08-14 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
iD already adds oneway=yes automatically, so no problem there. I don't know about JOSM, but that can be added as a warning/alert if there isn't one already. Às 22:04 de 14/08/2020, Graeme Fitzpatrick escreveu: On Sat, 15 Aug 2020 at 07:59, António Madeira via Tagging mailto:tagging

Re: [Tagging] automated edits seem to remove crossing=zebra drastically

2020-09-16 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
The problem, I believe is with iD's presets. When I started mapping some years ago I always marked crossings as zebras, then iD changed the preset to crossing =marked and I believe that's what you're seeing with the increasing number of this tag. Although iD presents the type selector within that

Re: [Tagging] Help explain the difference between path and track

2020-06-10 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
of who can use it. If it's only for rangers or emergency vehicles, there are tags to reflect that. If only bikes or hikers can use it, then it's a path. Às 13:56 de 10/06/2020, Mike Thompson escreveu: On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 10:26 AM António Madeira mailto:antoniomade...@gmx.com>>

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a threshing floor

2020-11-12 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
=threshing_floor and replacing it with man_made=threshing_floor, or otherwise changing existing common usage, you should make a proposal so that the community can discuss this. -- Joseph Eisenberg On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 2:53 PM António Madeira via Tagging mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org>> wrote:

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a threshing floor

2020-11-11 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
So, given that most of those who commented this thread agreed that threshing_floor should be in the man_made scheme, should I add it to the wiki or create a Feature Proposal? Às 19:27 de 06/11/2020, Paul Allen escreveu: On Fri, 6 Nov 2020 at 21:53, Martin Koppenhoefer

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a threshing floor

2020-11-14 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
Wiki created: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dthreshing_floor Please comment and/or edit accordingly. Às 17:53 de 12/11/2020, António Madeira via Tagging escreveu: Thank you, Joseph. If no one opposes, I'll do just that. Regards. Às 16:43 de 12/11/2020, Joseph Eisenberg

[Tagging] How to tag a threshing floor

2020-11-04 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
Greetings. In Portugal and all Mediterranean countries, there are thousands of thresing floors . Most of them are not used anymore, of course, but they are still preserved and are private spaces used for many purposes. I myself have one. I see

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a threshing floor

2020-11-05 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
I didn't get it, Mateusz. What does historic=wayside_shrine have to do with threshing floor? On Thu, 5 Nov 2020 at 11:37, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org>> wrote: We also have historic=wayside_shrine that is used for ones

Re: [Tagging] religous bias - Feature Proposal - Voting - (Chapel of rest)

2020-11-05 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
In many modern places near cemeteries there's not a room, but several. So, I would prefer amenity=place_of_mourning Às 12:39 de 05/11/2020, Peter Elderson escreveu: rate the following "favourable", "acceptable" or "unfavourable"? amenity=mourning acceptable, though I think an

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a threshing floor

2020-11-05 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
Thu, Nov 5, 2020 at 10:57 AM António Madeira via Tagging mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org>> wrote: I didn't get it, Mateusz. What does historic=wayside_shrine have to do with threshing floor? On Thu, 5 Nov 2020 at 11:37, Mateusz Konieczny via Taggin

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a threshing floor

2020-11-05 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
Yes, as I said in the previous message, it was my misunderstanding. Sorry about that. Às 20:02 de 05/11/2020, Mateusz Konieczny escreveu: I was referring to " I see there's a reference to this feature in this wiki page,

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a threshing floor

2020-11-06 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
ue to their historical significance. The suggestion of using 'historic[al]' is to represent this. In other parts of the world, where it is in current use and not ancient/protected then perhaps it is an 'amenity'? Is there a subtag to distinguish an historical/protected amenity from a straight/unpr