Re: [Tagging] Perimeter of a pitch

On 23/5/23 09:36, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Mon, 22 May 2023 at 22:43, Marc_marc wrote: but what's the playing area ? Yep, good question, with no across-the-board answer! As you say, you can play tennis from "outside" the court, but in most ball games, if the ball (& sometimes

Re: [Tagging] Picnic_table with barbecue table extension.

On 23/5/23 04:00, Dave F via Tagging wrote: https://snipboard.io/H5FYGT.jpghttps://snipboard.io/H5FYGT.jpgHi I've a leisure=picnic_table but has an extended table top made of metal to accommodate disposable barbecues. Can anybody recommend a sub-tag that's more descriptive than barbecue=yes?

Re: [Tagging] Tagging proposal On Wheels app 3 - Parking spaces for

On 22/5/23 22:46, Marc_marc wrote: Le 15.05.23 à 18:47, ro...@onwheelsapp.com a écrit : Hi everyone, So if I understand correct most parking spaces are mapped as polygons? yes https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/amenity=parking_space I don't see the problem to add a width and length tag

Re: [Tagging] Coach parking

On 9/6/23 20:26, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 9 Jun 2023, at 12:04, Greg Troxel wrote: I can't find it either. I remembered that JOSM presets have a lot more detail than the wiki. But I checked, and I don't see anything about "coaches" (which I think is the word in EU

Re: [Tagging] amenity=bbq without grill/grate ?

On 24/2/23 00:09, Matija Nalis wrote: Recently, https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:grate has been documented with some 232 uses, to map whether `leisure=firepit` and `amenity=bbq` have a grate (AKA cooking grate / grill / cooking grid). While it might be useful for `leisure=firepit`, I do

Re: [Tagging] Coach parking

On 10/6/23 00:13, Anne-Karoline Distel wrote: That's what I mean, tourist busses.  I see now that there is a tag (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:tourist_bus), but my point is that it should also be rendered with a bus/ coach symbol. Also, they are often seasonal, at least in Ireland, so

[Tagging] duplicate road routes one named the other referenced

Hi, I came across a duplicate of a road route. Both have the same number of members. One has the name, the other has the reference. I delete one placing the relevant tags on the other. https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/540719 https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/540719https://www.ope

Re: [Tagging] shop=gun shop=guns shop=weapons shop=firearms

On 21/6/23 09:50, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 at 22:11, Greg Troxel wrote:   an air rifle is not a firearm, in English, because there is no   combustion Unfortunately, in Australia at least, air rifles are actually officially classed as firearms! :-( NSW le

Re: [Tagging] shop=gun shop=guns shop=weapons shop=firearms

On 27/6/23 18:47, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 26 Jun 2023, at 20:50, Minh Nguyen wrote: For what it's worth, the Sporting Goods Retailers subindustry in NAICS includes "gun shops". what’s the category for multi role combat aircraft or heavy battletanks? NATO had a

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-GB] Fords and how to provide information to help with routing apps

On 5/7/23 03:38, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: Jul 4, 2023, 17:05 by tagging@openstreetmap.org: On Tue, Jul 04, 2023 at 03:14:47PM +0100, Ian Dent wrote: Previously it was tagged as ford=impassable but this isn't a valid value and On reflection, that doesn't

Re: [Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - Cell Phone Reception

On 7/8/23 07:20, Timothy Noname wrote: I thinks it's definitely valuable to map areas where there is no coverage at all as it's a safety issue For safety sake it is best to assume there will be no cell phone coverage. The battery could go flat, the phone could be lost, drowned or damaged.

Re: [Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - Cell Phone Reception

On 8/8/23 04:32, Marc_marc wrote: Hello, Le 06.08.23 à 21:18, NickKatchur via Tagging a écrit : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal:Cell_reception I'm a bit amused, or rather disappointed, to read comments like "it's complicated to estimate the number of reception bars because it de

Re: [Tagging] Tagging for the renderer : One-way "flow" bicycle tracks

On 9/9/23 17:31, Volker Schmidt wrote: Be careful: oneway=* is a legal access tag, only valid for vehicles, not for pedestrians. Some pedestrian barriers are 'oneway' .. for example turnstiles at train stations where the turnstile only allows travel if a card/ticket is produced. I know of

[Tagging] Postal verses locational addresses

HI, I am coming across cases of OSM entered addresses on buildings that are some kilometers from the nominated address location. These appear to be 'gated communities', 'retirement villages' and possibly other things that use some official address and thus keep deliveries from going to the ac

Re: [Tagging] Postal verses locational addresses

On 12/9/23 03:57, Greg Troxel wrote: The fundamental issue is that there are postal addresses and what might be called "civil addresses" or "physical addresses" ('locational' I understand but is not normal English usage). I could not think of a better descriptive 'word' for what I wanted to ex

Re: [Tagging] Postal verses locational addresses

On 14/9/23 04:50, Marc_marc wrote: Le 13.09.23 à 19:21, Jez Nicholson a écrit : OSM addresses are physical, 'locational' addresses ok it is the anomalous postal addresses that need to have their own schemeif at all. some mapper in France are using contact:* for that (and also some con

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: Use description instead of name for route relations

On 17/10/23 04:17, Paul Johnson wrote: Presently, it's common for route relations to have names that violate "name is only the name" and "name is not ref" and "name is not description" rules for name=* tags. I don't find it common in 'my area' of mapping. One or two examples would demonstra

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: Use description instead of name for route relations

On 17/10/23 23:22, Paul Johnson wrote: On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 4:51 AM Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: On 17/10/23 04:17, Paul Johnson wrote: Presently, it's common for route relations to have names that violate "name is only the name" and "

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: Use description instead of name for route relations

On 18/10/23 19:15, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: Oct 18, 2023, 09:30 by 61sundow...@gmail.com: On 17/10/23 23:22, Paul Johnson wrote: On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 4:51 AM Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: On 17/10/23 04:17, Paul Johnson wrote: Pre

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: Use description instead of name for route relations

On 20/10/23 10:32, Paul Johnson wrote: On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 2:31 AM Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: On 17/10/23 23:22, Paul Johnson wrote: On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 4:51 AM Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: On 17/10/23 04:17, Paul J

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: Use description instead of name for route relations

On 22/10/23 19:56, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 20 Oct 2023, at 10:23, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: maybe just removing this bad advise without proposal would be a good idea +1 ___ Issue: that wording is in the app

Re: [Tagging] shops for display

On 21/11/23 06:56, Anne-Karoline Distel wrote: have the windows covered in decals to advertise that they have moved or to advertise local sights or whatever. In the above case move the shop data to the new location and then add shop=vacant to this previous location. This would stop map us

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - RFC - Documenting feet as an an optional elevation unit

On 29/1/24 06:30, Philip Barnes wrote: The legal definition of a foot is of course  0.348 m. "Since an international agreement in 1959, the foot is defined as equal to exactly 0.3048 metres'. Phil (trigpoint) NPL has a nice history on length measurement http://resource.npl.co.uk/docs/edu

[Tagging] airport taqs

Hi Typically on an airport the planes parking position is marked by a small circle, the is usually tagged with aeroway=parking_position - https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:aeroway%3Dparking_position. I believe this should only be a node, not a way. Some have mapped the planes path lead

Re: [Tagging] tagging "loose" paving stones

On 18/2/24 05:52, Anne-Karoline Distel via Tagging wrote: Judging from those photographs, they would be material=sett, but the surface is not the same, as I said, the stones have some room to wiggle, there is no filler in between the stones. On 17/02/2024 18:41, Yves via Tagging wrote: Su

Re: [Tagging] clootie trees/ rag trees

On 4/3/24 07:48, Anne-Karoline Distel via Tagging wrote: Hello there, does anyone have any opinions about how to map what is called clootie/ cloughtie/ cloutie trees in Scotland and rag trees or raggedy bushes in Ireland? There are things like 'Fairy Bridge on the Isle of Man ' mapped a

Re: [Tagging] Highway classification in Antarctica

The problem is 'tagging for the render', people see this large blank area and cannot see what they are looking for because the render will not show such a low importance feature. This also occurs in other areas where there is sparse populations. The people who make and maintain renders occupy

Re: [Tagging] Highway classification in Antarctica

On 26/4/24 03:40, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: Apr 25, 2024, 16:16 by fernando.treb...@gmail.com: I also think that such changes also imply corrections to the following section regarding how importance is to be assessed by mappers: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key

Re: [Tagging] How to Tag Steps in a Bridleway

Horses are good at handling various obstacles. If you can find a local 'horse trial' go along and look. Yes it is a competition... But I don't map them as they are usually on private property. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org htt

Re: [Tagging] breads of bakeries

On 3/5/24 16:07, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Thu, 2 May 2024 at 21:21, bkil +a...@gmail.com> wrote: Yes, that would be even better. sells:bread=wholemeal:x;y;wholemeal:z But if you're selling ="white variety-a", "wholemeal variety-a", "multi-grain variety-a", "gl

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a campground drop box for payment of camping or parking fees?

On 23/5/24 09:58, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: What's a good way to tag a payment drop box, of the type used in the USA for campgrounds? You typically put money in an envelope, tear of a tab, and dop the payment into a metal tube slot. In addition to cash payments payment by credit card should be c

Re: [Tagging] Two way street, but entry of motor vehicles blocked at one end. Relation correct? Tagging correct?

On 22/5/24 01:19, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am Di., 21. Mai 2024 um 15:01 Uhr schrieb Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging : In such case I would typically place such tags on a short section (meter or two) of way near end where such restriction is applied. the restriction is not ap

Re: [Tagging] maxweight : x tons exept for bus

On 9/9/24 16:58, Alberto Nogaro via Tagging wrote: I somehow doubt that the traffic sign specifies the maximum actual weight, most likely it sets the maximum permitted weight of the vehicle at full load, as specified by the manufacturer. In my country the signs specify the maximum weight that

Re: [Tagging] maxweight : x tons exept for bus

On 9/9/24 19:39, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am Mo., 9. Sept. 2024 um 10:55 Uhr schrieb Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: It has nothing to do with the vehicle specification. The sign is there to stop the destruction of the way through overloading the structure, thus an unlo

Re: [Tagging] maxweight : x tons exept for bus

- From: Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> Sent: lunedì 9 settembre 2024 10:51 To: tagging@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Tagging] maxweight : x tons exept for bus In my country the signs specify the maximum weight that is permitted on the way (usually a

Re: [Tagging] maxweight : x tons exept for bus

On 10/9/24 20:46, Marc_marc via Tagging wrote: Le 09.09.24 à 10:51, Warin a écrit : For a traffic sign "maxweight x tons except for bus"' situation the wiki is, for once, fairly clear maxweight=x (where x is the relevant number with any units applicable) maxweight:conditional=

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Should we map things that do not exist?

On 30/5/20 12:48 am, Volker Schmidt wrote: My main point is that out there are things that consist of visible objects plus objects which have left visible traces, and also some pieces that have been completely erased, but of which we have documented knowledge of where they once were. The entire

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] Heavily-wooded residential polygons

On 29/5/20 8:01 am, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: May 28, 2020, 23:54 by stevea...@softworkers.com: "treed farmland" or "heavily wooded residential" prove slightly problematic to OSM tagging. Map tree-covered area (landuse=forest) and map farmland (landuse=farmland) or resid

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Should we map things that do not exist?

On 2/6/20 11:52 am, Phake Nick wrote: 在 2020年6月2日週二 09:26，Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>> 寫道： On 30/5/20 12:48 am, Volker Schmidt wrote: > My main point is that out there are things that consist of visible > objects plus objec

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Should we map things that do not exist?

On 2/6/20 9:44 pm, Paul Allen wrote: On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 at 12:23, Volker Schmidt > wrote: Anyway the examples you find in OSM are few and in all cases I know the completely erased bits are a tiny part of the overall ex-railway. There are three ex-railways

Re: [Tagging] Overlapping naturals

On 3/6/20 5:37 am, Florian Lohoff wrote: For me overlapping natural or landuses are broken. An area can either be a natural=wood or a landuse=farmland. You cant include the same area in two types of usages or naturals. You can. Farm land here can have trees to shelter animals from wind/sun an

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Should we map things that do not exist?

On 6/6/20 8:02 am, Volker Schmidt wrote: I need to reopen this thread.  I do object strongly to the invitation to remove the razed/dismantled-railway tag in the case of railway tracks have been replaced by roads with the same geometry. To the contrary this is one of the more fortunate cases w

Re: [Tagging] Overlapping naturals

On 5/6/20 10:06 pm, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: And you are missing (1) word "mainly" (2) "Note: Two values of landuse=* may be view as not strictly land use.    These are landuse=grass and landuse=forest. Please refer to the pages    of these for more information." As usua

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] Heavily-wooded residential polygons

On 3/6/20 7:22 am, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: Jun 2, 2020, 20:16 by stevea...@softworkers.com: "this IS residential landuse." (Not COULD BE, but IS). Yes, this land might be "natural" now, including being "treed," but I could still build a patio and bbq there after perha

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] Heavily-wooded residential polygons

On 5/6/20 10:46 am, Greg Troxel wrote: Sure. I tend to think that if something is semantically sensible and can be represented, it's good to tag it, and then rendering is another story. I think pretty much everyone agrees that landuse=residential and natural=wood are both sensible to represent

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Should we map things that do not exist?

On 7/6/20 1:52 am, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 6. Jun 2020, at 03:58, Jack Armstrong wrote: The wiki permits the mapping of reality, on-the-ground, as it is in the world today. OSM should reflect what exists today, not decades ago. If there is something that remains o

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Should we map things that do not exist?

On 7/6/20 1:31 am, Jarek Piórkowski wrote: On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 at 11:23, Andy Townsend wrote: On 06/06/2020 16:18, Phake Nick wrote: 在 2020年6月6日週六 11:03，Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> 寫道： As a general tourist I would have no interest in traveling along a railway route here nothing rema

Re: [Tagging] Education reform - a minor change on my proposal

On 6/6/20 9:04 pm, Erkin Alp Güney wrote: I have changed how buildings in the campus should be tagged. Some suggestions? Just use 'outer boundary' rath

Re: [Tagging] Reviving the path discussion - the increasing, importance of trails in OSM

On 31/5/20 9:20 am, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: Yes, there are 1000 things in the Australian bush that'll kill you :-), but none of them will actually eat you! (not even Drop Bears! https://australianmuseum.net.au/learn/animals/mammals/drop-bear/ :-)) Same applies to (virtually?) all of Weste

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Should we map things that do not exist?

On 8/6/20 10:57 pm, Volker Schmidt wrote: Warin, Jack, your comments are really off my main point. We have an unfinished mailing-list thread where we have different opinions on whether a razed (on the ground) railway can be mapped in OSM. In the middle of that discussion the abandoned railway

Re: [Tagging] Reviving the path discussion - the increasing, importance of trails in OSM

On 9/6/20 12:15 am, Paul Allen wrote: On Mon, 8 Jun 2020 at 14:48, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org>> wrote: Jun 8, 2020, 15:05 by pla16...@gmail.com : The whole world is dangerous.  Just label the entire planet as

Re: [Tagging] Features underwater (inside reservoirs)

On 8/6/20 10:14 pm, Paul Allen wrote: On Mon, 8 Jun 2020 at 10:33, Cornelis > wrote: With these tags and the surrounding footways the bridge is treatey as normal (foot)way by OSRM and graphhopper, altough it only falls dry roughly every other autumn. Is thi

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] Heavily-wooded residential polygons

On 8/6/20 10:16 pm, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: Jun 6, 2020, 06:20 by 61sundow...@gmail.com: On 3/6/20 7:22 am, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: Jun 2, 2020, 20:16 by stevea...@softworkers.com : "this IS residential landu

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Should we map things that do not exist?

On 9/6/20 12:10 pm, Jack Armstrong wrote: On 8/6/20 10:57 pm, Volker Schmidt wrote: The point is they are no longer 'in our environment' .. they are gone, no longer here, vanished. At times this discussion reminds me of a heated argument over whether a thing was a dead parrot o

Re: [Tagging] Features underwater (inside reservoirs)

On 9/6/20 1:10 pm, Jarek Piórkowski wrote: On Mon, 8 Jun 2020 at 22:13, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: On 8/6/20 10:14 pm, Paul Allen wrote: access=no access:conditional=yes @ (above water) Conditional key does not look to have text base entry ... might be better t

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Should we map things that do not exist?

On 9/6/20 6:46 pm, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 9. Jun 2020, at 03:40, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: Similar for Roamn and Saxon sites, if there is something present today, map it... nothing there then nothing on OSM, put it in OHM Warin, can you give an e

Re: [Tagging] Features underwater (inside reservoirs)

On 9/6/20 9:30 pm, Paul Allen wrote: On Tue, 9 Jun 2020 at 09:24, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>> wrote: But :conditional = yes @ some text does not meet the specification of :conditional as per the wiki. From https://wiki.openstreet

Re: [Tagging] Help explain the difference between path and track

To me in OSM a 'path' has always been too narrow for a motor car (4WD or not) to pass. If it is wide enough for a car then it is not a 'path' in OSM so they must be tagged in some other way. Descriptions of 'path': On 10/6/20 5:53 am, brad wrote: "If a path is wide enough for 4-wheel-vehicle

Re: [Tagging] Features underwater (inside reservoirs)

On 10/6/20 11:12 pm, Paul Allen wrote: On Wed, 10 Jun 2020 at 02:13, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>> wrote: On 9/6/20 9:30 pm, Paul Allen wrote: From those, it appears that the condition is free-form text except for cases like o

Re: [Tagging] Replace the "DecoTurf" value

On 13/6/20 7:03 am, Steve Lee wrote: "DecoTurf" is not a common name, but a brand name. It  is also not a genericized trademark. We may need a broader term to classify surfaces. "Hardcourt" seems to be used exclusively for tennis courts, literally does not refer to a certain material. However,

Re: [Tagging] Charging stations

On 15/6/20 1:37 am, patata wrote: Currently socket:type1 and socket:type2 are not clarifying if the station has a cable or we must bring our own. Since the connector is not necessarily a socket, Agreed. it is being discussed on our telegram group https://t.me/openchargemap to change all socke

Re: [Tagging] Should we map things that do not exist?

On 15/6/20 1:09 am, Volker Schmidt wrote: Regarding power lines: it is helpful mapping razed power lines as razed and not removing them completely, because in many cases some of the satellite pictures still show the towers, or at least the concrete foundations. This way you avd resurrection.

Re: [Tagging] Should we map things that do not exist?

On 14/6/20 10:59 pm, Niels Elgaard Larsen wrote: Martin Koppenhoefer: == Warin, can you give an example for something historic that is not there any more in reality and should be removed from OpenStreetMap? Through all the years I have never encountered anything like this mapped in

Re: [Tagging] nhd tags - documentation page review

Try https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/3382975 ~ 10 years ago. On 15/6/20 7:52 am, Jo wrote: If you enabled expert mode, you can download from Overpass directly into JOSM. Polyglot On Sun, Jun 14, 2020, 23:29 Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org>> wrote:

Re: [Tagging] bicycle_parking=? for stands where handlebar is used to hold bicycle in position

On 16/6/20 4:30 am, Hidde Wieringa wrote: Good evening, In the region where I live there are 657 objects tagged with amenity=bicycle_parking, of which 457 have no bicycle_parking tag at all. I would say that classification of the bicycle_parking is undertagged in general.  Under tagged, ye

Re: [Tagging] charging stations

On 15/6/20 10:26 pm, Paul Allen wrote: On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 at 10:29, Johannes Werner via Tagging mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org>> wrote: cable=yes/no/length seems like a great idea. It does however not solve OPs problem that a cable is not a socket. However, a cable at a charging s

Re: [Tagging] Rail segment in a bike route

Normal OSM access is assumed to be access=yes, where some access is restricted then in OSM it should be marked *=no. So where a train forbids bicycle transport then bicycle=no should be applied or some local default of bicycle=no on trains be documented. Locally to me some trains require the

Re: [Tagging] "Feature Proposal - RFC - Qanat"

On 20/6/20 9:35 am, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 20. Jun 2020, at 00:59, Joseph Guillaume wrote: I just wanted to emphasise that this proposal isn't really about whether to tag qanats - it's about whether to tag them with man_made=qanat or waterway=canal+canal=qanat.

Re: [Tagging] Is there any case of valid numeric addr:housename - for example addr:housename?

On 30/6/20 11:16 pm, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 30. Jun 2020, at 15:08, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: Is there some chance that any of them is valid? IMHO not, these are likely autocompletion bloopers. Highly likely these are errors. However it is not imposs

Re: [Tagging] How to map terrace buildings with names

On 9/7/20 12:44 am, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 8. Jul 2020, at 16:17, Matthew Woehlke wrote: Really? If Alice and Bob each own 50% of "Fairview Heights Apartments", you would expect that there are legal property records indicating exactly which half of said complex is

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (Ground)

On 10/7/20 9:30 pm, Peter Elderson wrote: Looks like humus is a component of soil. So I think soil covers it, being a top layer consisting of mixed organic and mineral matter. To me it is hard to imagine an area as permanently natural=bare_soil. Wouldn't there always be some kind of vegetation

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (Ground)

Most Australian deserts cannot be mapped as a consistent land cover but as a patchwork combination of differing land covers. As such mapping the land cover is a time intensive task and given the usefulness of such information compared to other priorities is not something that would be done any

Re: [Tagging] Intermittent highways?

I too would suggest opening_hours. Seasonal is related to the climate and the climate does vary from one year to the next and may be why the tag has a 'loose description'. An annual festival is not usually held for an entire climatic season, so I would not use it for them. Similar argument wit

Re: [Tagging] Intermittent highways?

On 15/7/20 5:07 pm, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 15. Jul 2020, at 00:49, Justin Tracey wrote: If the festival is held at some date expressible using the opening hours syntax, you could use the "open hours" tag[0] or add conditions to the "access" tags I would not use

Re: [Tagging] Edited the wiki for building=terrace

On 18/7/20 3:29 pm, Skyler Hawthorne wrote: Hi everyone, A couple weeks ago, I started a thread regarding how to tag terrace buildings when the entire building has a name. I proposed an alternative tagging scheme to handle such cases, and others where it's clear that the building is one cohes

Re: [Tagging] Tagging motorcycle parking

On 23/7/20 6:42 am, Matthew Woehlke wrote: On 22/07/2020 16.32, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am Mi., 22. Juli 2020 um 21:11 Uhr schrieb Matthew Woehlke: Right now the only option seems to be to model the lot as two separate entities, one which excludes the motorcycle spaces, and one which is *onl

Re: [Tagging] Hiking "guideposts" painted on rocks, trees etc.

On 21/7/20 9:04 pm, Michal Fabík wrote: Hi, in some parts of the world, it's common practice to paint guidepost information (destinations, distances etc.) on rock faces, trees, walls and similar existing surfaces, rather than use purpose-made plates attached to a pole. (Example: https://osm.f

Re: [Tagging] Farmlands subject to rotation of crops

On 22/7/20 12:53 am, Michael Montani wrote: Dear all, I wanted to check with you which is the best way to map farmlands subject to rotation of crops. An example could be of a farmland used for general crop in one part of the year and left it at rest for the remaining part of the year, being a

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - UPRN & USRN

On 27/7/20 5:58 am, Rob Nickerson wrote: Hi all, Mappers in the United Kingdom are looking to agree two tags for mapping 'Unique Property Reference Numbers' and 'Unique Street Reference Numbers'. To support this effort I volunteered to create the relevant proposal pages on the wiki. To view

Re: [Tagging] kerb=regular vs. raised

On 31/7/20 12:42 am, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: In Indonesia, Costa Rica, Peru and Mexico, it is common to find 30cm kerbs in older neighborhoods. In Nicaragua there were some that were at least 45 cm high, in Leon or Granada. Tropical countries with heavy rainfall often do this to avoid flooding

Re: [Tagging] kerb=regular vs. raised

On 2/8/20 5:41 pm, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 2. Aug 2020, at 03:55, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: Much easier to tag the numerical height of the curb as this avoids the confusion of words, particularly with different languages, cultures and climates.

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (Ground: natural=bare_soil)

On 4/8/20 7:17 am, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: Everyone, the voting period for natural=bare_ground is still open for 4 more days. I would recommend voting "no" on the current definition, unfortunately. As mentioned above, the current definition is far too broad, and could easily be construed to i

Re: [Tagging] PTv2 public_transport=stop_position for stop positions that vary based on train length

On 8/8/20 10:54 am, Andy Townsend wrote: Hello, This is a question that actually arose out of a "how to tag" argument that's come to the attention of the DWG in the USA, but it's actually easy to describe in terms of data in the UK that I'm familiar with, so I'll do that. https://www.openst

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Takeaway drinks shops

On 8/8/20 8:29 am, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: I still believe shop=bubble_tea is suitable, as these are specific shops where you can get only bubble tea. Although bubble tea is something to drink, I would rather think of it as a specific kind of sweets, than as a shop where you can get a bever

Re: [Tagging] PTv2 public_transport=stop_position for stop positions that vary based on train length

is my limit... too heavy after that. 2020-08-10 09:20 skrev Warin: [...] Why is the front of the vehicle (bus, train, ferry.. and possibly others) mapped? Would it not be better to map the thing most usefull to most people? That would be where passengers get on/off, on multiple exit vehicles

Re: [Tagging] Fwd: Re[2]: PTv2 public_transport=stop_position for stop positions that vary based on train length

On 11/8/20 9:25 am, 80hnhtv4agou--- via Tagging wrote: one of the points that i talked about, that no one has answered yet is what about someone not local who just puts 400 + unverified stops on platforms and there all wrong. If you find something wrong - correct it. If the things mapped are

Re: [Tagging] Fwd: Re[2]: PTv2 public_transport=stop_position for stop positions that vary based on train length

here for ever" unless someone improves them. Monday, August 10, 2020 9:33 PM -05:00 from Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: On 11/8/20 9:25 am, 80hnhtv4agou--- via Tagging wrote: one of the points that i talked about, that no one has answered yet is what about som

Re: [Tagging] tourism=caravan_site versus tourism=camp_site: camping with a tent

On 15/8/20 4:49 am, Hidde Wieringa wrote: Good day, I am having trouble with the tourism tags caravan_site and camp_site, specifically for the use case of finding a place to camp with a tent (so not a caravan or a camper van). My goal is to differentiate the two tags. Both tags allow tents,

Re: [Tagging] tourism=caravan_site versus tourism=camp_site: camping with a tent

On 15/8/20 10:54 am, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: But what do you do for a place, called a Camping Ground, that is a big area of grass, mostly without defined "pitches" & where you can camp anyway you like: sleep in your car; on the ground; in a tent / camper trailer / caravan / motorhome? Loca

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - kerb=regular

On 22/8/20 12:56 am, Supaplex wrote: I see that I have probably chosen an unfavorable solution to solve the problem described. Many seem to accept the basic problem: There is only one qualitative category for all kerbs with a height of over ~3 cm, although in reality there is a significant di

Re: [Tagging] Hands Off !, respect my (our) space

Off list. This has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TAGGING LIST. Desist. On 25/8/20 12:50 am, 80hnhtv4agou--- via Tagging wrote: In ID, on your profile page is, Other nearby users, and the home location, map the point is other locals based on my (our) edits know where we (I) live, but come 

Re: [Tagging] Hands Off !, respect my (our) space

On 25/8/20 11:37 pm, Matthew Woehlke wrote: On 25/08/2020 06.04, Paul Allen wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2020 at 06:38, Warin wrote: Off list. It looks like you accidentally Bcc'd the list. It looks like Warin tried to send it to "80hnhtv4agou---" without noticing that addre

Re: [Tagging] tagging for fairgrounds

On 28/8/20 8:05 am, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Fri, 28 Aug 2020 at 05:31, Richard Welty > wrote: again in the US, state and county fairgrounds are permanent facilities which function as event space when the fair is not actually going on. the midw

Re: [Tagging] Rail segment in a bike route

On 31/8/20 8:25 am, Volker Schmidt wrote: Keep it simple, if the simple solution does not limit you. Agreed. I see no reason why a way as a member of a simple route relation could not have the role 'transport'. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@o

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] Large fire perimeter tagging?

On 27/9/20 5:51 pm, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: I am a bit dubious about value of updating fire=perimeter It is something that changes extremely quickly, we should not encourage people to survey perimeter of ACTIVE fire, OSM is doomed to be strictly worse source of fire perimeter than a

Re: [Tagging] How to tag for dualband GPS ?

On 30/11/20 8:45 am, Andrea Mazzoleni wrote: Hi, I bought a tracking device that supports GPS dualband (also called dual frequency) for high precision mapping, and I'm wondering if I can put this information in the "source" tag. The intention is to make future mappers consider the device pre

Re: [Tagging] COVID-19 vaccination centres

On 19/11/20 6:59 am, Tom Pfeifer wrote: With the first Covid-19 vaccines getting approved, many municipalities are planning facilities for administering mass vaccination. In Berlin, the two former airports Tegel and Tempelhof are planned, along with some sports facilities. This raises the ques

Re: [Tagging] How to tag for dualband GPS ?

0 at 8:36 AM Andrea Mazzoleni mailto:amadva...@gmail.com>> wrote: On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 12:27 PM Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>> wrote: If the intention is to indicate the error/accuracy/uncertainty then tag/s

Re: [Tagging] Animal trails

On 1/12/20 10:36 am, Lukas Richert wrote: I wouldn't tag this as foot=no or access=no. There are many trails in my area that are clearly animal tracks and seldom used by people - but it is allowed for people to walk on these and they are sometimes significant shortcuts so allowing routing ove

Re: [Tagging] COVID-19 vaccination centres

On 1/12/20 12:24 am, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 30. Nov 2020, at 12:56, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: I would assume the location of these mass vaccination centers would be widely publicized and the locations identified. Do they need further identifi

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