Re: [Tagging] Amphitheatre or outdoor non-sports venue

Javbw. > On Sep 14, 2016, at 2:15 PM, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: > > On Wed, 2016-09-14 at 14:04 +0900, johnw wrote: >> I’m trying to tag an outdoor venue I would call >> an https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amphitheatre. It is a “natural” one, >> with a stage near a la

Re: [Tagging] Amphitheatre or outdoor non-sports venue

> On Sep 14, 2016, at 2:15 PM, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: > >> >> is there some amenity=* tag I am missing that I should be using? >> Putting “stadium” or sports venue on these seems pretty wrong. > > Is there anything about amenity=arts_centre that says it has to > necessarily be indoor? > > I p

[Tagging] Amphitheatre or outdoor non-sports venue

I’m trying to tag an outdoor venue I would call an https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amphitheatre . It is a “natural” one, with a stage near a lake, with terraces seating for picnics or standing for a crowded performance. Here is the one I am mapping. i

Re: [Tagging] Subject: Feature Proposal - RFC - highway=social_path

> On Jun 14, 2016, at 11:27 AM, Tod Fitch wrote: > > > There is at least one proposal for path/trail difficulty in the wiki [1] and > at least one that appears accepted and in use [2]. Of course neither of those > is an exact match for the Yosemite Decimal System[3] based on a 1930s Sierra >

Re: [Tagging] Motorway_junction = javbw confusion

> On Jun 1, 2016, at 8:56 AM, Andrew Errington wrote: > > Motorway entrance could be implicit and detected by software planning a route > from a regular road to a motorway_link road through a toll booth. The name > of the toll both can represent the name of the entrance (in Korea all toll >

[Tagging] Motorway_junction = javbw confusion

Ran into a tagging issue today while cleaning up a (complicated) area of Tokyo I visited. https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3851821325 Came across this highway=motorway_junction node. Seemed in the wrong place. Out in the Japanese countryside,

Re: [Tagging] Should greenhouse et al have building=yes? (was building=digester)

> On May 21, 2016, at 6:43 PM, Martin Simon wrote: > > Some are tent-like, some have a rigid steel structure that supports itself. This is an interesting question. In my area, there are thousands of greenhouses, or as they are called in Japanese “Vinyl Houses” (Vinyl meaning any thin Plastic

[Tagging] Tagging "commons" style buildings at large dorms

My son moved from a very small dorm facility to a very large dormitory for Tokyo University, and of course I was trying to update the facility and ran into a couple questions on tagging. there are 7 buildings: 6 dorm buildings and the central office/hall The dorm buildings (the housing part) i

Re: [Tagging] importance=* tag (for transportation etc)

> On Mar 22, 2016, at 5:32 AM, Janko Mihelić wrote: > > You actually already have all the data you need, and it's on Wikidata. Just > look at the number of articles about each peak, and render them according to > that. More articles=rendered at lower zooms. Problem solved, and you don't > hav

Re: [Tagging] importance=* tag (for transportation etc)

> On Mar 19, 2016, at 10:13 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > prominence and topographic isolation, Neither are good measures of mountains, besides for record holders. - There are bigger volcanoes than Mt Fuji in Russia, just north of Japan, that no one kno

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Internet cafe

> On Feb 24, 2016, at 9:24 AM, Dave Swarthout wrote: > > One would not go there because it's a cafe; any food or drink is offered > purely as a convenience. +1 Also, In Rural Japan, an internet cafe is usually not for gaming, it is for people to be alone with the internet, in separate roo

Re: [Tagging] tailor: craft vs. shop

There should be both. a single artisan clothesmaker’s workshop - basically his office and workroom is his place of business. Just like an artist’s production studio and his gallery space may be separate, so may any artisan’s shop. I visit a yearly sale at a house that was converted into a pott

[Tagging] path=hiking in use

I came across path=hiking subkey just now. I was cleaning up some old tagging, and lamenting the highway=path rendering change (now my rural mountain trails are all rendered as sidewalks), and I was considering changing them all to highway=trail, and then thought about a subkey of path, path=tra

Re: [Tagging] Tagging "you pick" farms and related fruit stands

> On Feb 13, 2016, at 7:06 PM, Volker Schmidt wrote: > > Maybe shop=pick_your_own added to the farm? > > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U-Pick_and_Pick-Your-Own_%28PYO%29_Farms > ) I think in some instance it would wo

Re: [Tagging] Do-it-yourself versus hardware stores

> On Feb 13, 2016, at 5:36 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > in OSM, distribution warehouses are industrial What do they make there? Isn’t distribution “commerce”? A factory that manufactures IKEA furniture is industrial. Their Main distribution warehouse seems “commercial” Their sh

[Tagging] Tagging "you pick" farms and related fruit stands

this weekend, I visited a “you pick” strawberry farm. As with apples and other fruits, Visiting a rural farm and paying a fee to pick your own fruits, nuts, and other stuff must be popular around the world. I have visited several Apple orchards in the US that do that. In this case, it was “all y

Re: [Tagging] Do-it-yourself versus hardware stores

inline as well: > On Feb 13, 2016, at 8:09 AM, Colin Smale wrote: > >> So: >> >> Builder supply : focus on materials/piping/whatever their specialty (Tile, >> rock, lumber), excluding the finished goods stores (appliance, etc) >> >> Hardware stores : focus on tools/consumables. >> >> D

Re: [Tagging] landuse=farmland and highway=track

> On Jan 10, 2016, at 5:21 PM, Gerd Petermann > wrote: > > Whenever I am mapping landuse=farmland areas I wonder whether I should > 1) draw one rather large polygon stretching across all highway=track ways > and small buildings which are likely used by the farmer and waterway=ditch > ways or

Re: [Tagging] Public buildings

> On Jan 10, 2016, at 2:24 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > To me an office building could be used for any administrative work. > Government department sections here change locations - the education > department human resources can move to another location ... even swap with > anoth

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Aquatics centre

> On Dec 29, 2015, at 8:09 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > sports_centre=ball_sports Perhaps there needs to be more detail on the field - a field type can tell you what can be done - we do that with “tennis courts” or “baseball diamond” - but for grass pitches and indoor wooden co

Re: [Tagging] Swimming pools

> On Dec 21, 2015, at 6:57 PM, Matthijs Melissen > wrote: > > For example a indoor swimming hall with slides and wave > generators, heated to a subtropical temperature, for generic water parks (place for water “play” rather than water “exercise / sports”, usually dominated with water based

Re: [Tagging] Swimming pools

> On Dec 20, 2015, at 1:42 AM, ael wrote: > > A water park is typically a natural area with lakes mainly for wildlife, > although perhaps boating and maybe, just maybe but very rarely, swimming. > But not a swimming pool (well, perhaps there are exceptions). Google Searched “Aquatic Centre”: T

Re: [Tagging] Swimming pools

> On Dec 18, 2015, at 9:57 AM, Steve Doerr wrote: > > , I think these establishments did actually provide washing facilities for > those, especially the urban poor, who didn't have bath-tubs in the home, and > were provided as a public-health measure. in rural areas, you often see people pul

Re: [Tagging] Swimming pools

> On Dec 16, 2015, at 8:38 PM, Philip Barnes wrote: > > Isn't the term public_bath somewhat outdated? Google search 温泉 in Japan https://www.google.com/maps/search/温泉/@36.3099717,138.9777321,11z several tho

Re: [Tagging] Wi-Fi or internet access at Stores

> On Dec 13, 2015, at 11:48 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > >> Am 13.12.2015 um 12:22 schrieb moltonel > >: >> >> Customer-only and non-gratis wifi are arguably not "public" but they are >> mapworthy. And the subtags to express these are internet_access:access an

Re: [Tagging] Decorative flower fields? (not as a crop?)

> On Dec 1, 2015, at 5:30 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > > 2015-12-01 9:02 GMT+01:00 John Willis mailto:jo...@mac.com>>: > So landuse=ornamental_flowers is the current value I will propose, as it has > no size connotations > > > yes, it has no size connotations, but it is about "ornam

Re: [Tagging] Sidewalk Tagging for Routing

> On Nov 24, 2015, at 11:32 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > the road, they are quite capable of deciding which side to walk, where > to cross and whether it is simply easier to walk on the road. TL;DR: Although I care more about the rendering than the routing, the routing in this situat

Re: [Tagging] Sidewalk Tagging for Routing

> On Nov 24, 2015, at 9:20 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > yes, it would eventually create problems in case e.g. a bridge spirals around > itself (guess improbable case) similar to spiral stairs (maybe these wouldn't > be called bridges but ramps). It worked for all bridges I have mapped

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Level:ref=*

> On Nov 15, 2015, at 12:48 AM, Tobias Knerr wrote: > > On 14.11.2015 07:17, johnw wrote: >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/level:ref > > Thanks for the proposal! One question though: What's the rationale for > calling it level:ref, rather tha

Re: [Tagging] Friendliness with attacked mapped places in Paris

> On Nov 15, 2015, at 3:35 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > > Yes, a tragedy has happened, or more precisely a horrific crime; and > yes, you and I and many others wish to extend our hearfelt condolences > to the victims and their families. But OpenStreetMap is not the right > medium to do that. >> B

Re: [Tagging] Named junctions

> On Nov 13, 2015, at 7:46 PM, tomoya muramoto wrote: > > Severe problem: Different names I did a quick look around, and this signal-grid naming issue seems to be pretty big, but only in Hokkaido. I never noticed this, as I have not been to Hokkaido yet. several cities up there (Sapporo, Ch

[Tagging] RFC - Level:ref=*

I created an RFC page for level:ref=* I look forward to your comments. here or on the discussion page. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/level:ref PS: I will create it’s cousins, addr:unit:ref later. having th

Re: [Tagging] Named junctions

> On Nov 13, 2015, at 7:46 PM, tomoya muramoto wrote: > However officially (legally) the name is "place" name. It causes some > problems. I understood it to be the signals were named after the places - not the places themselves.And only *sometimes* named for places. Places are named with pl

Re: [Tagging] Named junctions

> On Nov 9, 2015, at 10:14 PM, Andrew Errington wrote: > > Surely this is a rendering problem? > > In other words, if there are many named traffic lights within a > certain distance of each other then only one symbol/name/whatever > should be rendered? If the traffic lights are all tagged the

Re: [Tagging] Named junctions

> On Nov 8, 2015, at 7:17 PM, tomoya muramoto wrote: > > As for me, signals rendering seems not to be a big problem I was looking around at the other maps, and the one I really like the look of is Mapion. http://www.mapion.co.jp/m2/36.396593778361435,140.5346977118126,15

Re: [Tagging] Named junctions

> On Nov 8, 2015, at 7:17 PM, tomoya muramoto wrote: > > I'm a Japanese mapper, and I thank you for your work on Japan/Asia specific > problems. > It's very tough to read and understand a long discussion in English, so maybe > I'm lack of full understanding on this issue. Just trying to solve

Re: [Tagging] RFC level:ref (was: Adding floor location information)

I created an RFC page for level:ref. I look forward to your comments. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/level:ref PS: I will create it’s cousins, addr:unit:ref later. having the directory/information map la

Re: [Tagging] Decorative flower fields? (not as a crop?)

> On Nov 4, 2015, at 8:51 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > I think it's not that different to a cutline for instance, which is one of > the most used values in man_made You are right, since it is a place where the land is cleared, a cutline is a clearing in the woods. Similar to clearcut

Re: [Tagging] Decorative flower fields? (not as a crop?)

Thanks for this information - I live about 1 hour away from Oze but I have not visited it yet. And most of the fields in Oze are certainly wetlands of some kind. I will eventually visit both of the places you mentioned, as everyone likes pictures of pretty flowers in the forest. Links in Jap

Re: [Tagging] Decorative flower fields? (not as a crop?)

> On Nov 4, 2015, at 8:52 PM, tomoya muramoto wrote: > > to a flower field grown naturally (not planted by man). Is it appropriate? AFAIK that a natural open area of grasses is natural=grassland. If it is a bit taller stuff, possibly natural=scrub ( like the 1m tall green plants growing along

Re: [Tagging] Decorative flower fields? (not as a crop?)

> On Nov 4, 2015, at 5:27 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > there's a difference: flowerbed is the place inside which the flowers are > put, tree is the plant itself I think you are thinking of a flower box. googling flowerbed leads to a small area of ground where flowers are planted -

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a "overhead electronic display" ?

> On Nov 2, 2015, at 5:11 PM, Gerd Petermann > wrote: > > > Maybe we should move this discussion to the "More human readable values for > traffic sings" thread? I’m not sure - that thread seems to be really full ^_^ I think that, in general, there needs to be a way to deal with: - advisor

Re: [Tagging] Decorative flower fields? (not as a crop?)

> On Nov 3, 2015, at 4:22 PM, Gerd Petermann > wrote: > > I would use leisure=garden, but I assume I must be missing something as you > didn't pick this (obvious) tag. Can you explain why you don't want to > use/think abotu/like this tag ? > The wiki page [1] starts with "A garden is a disti

[Tagging] Decorative flower fields? (not as a crop?)

I assume there are many around the world, But I am trying to tag a group of flower fields that are used year round to create a decoration by growing vast fields of a single type of flower. They are not harvested or sold, they are there merely for the visitors of a very large 3sq KM mixed-use pa

Re: [Tagging] How to tag traffic islands ?

> On Nov 3, 2015, at 7:41 AM, Dave Swarthout wrote: > > I was living in Boston at the time and can attest to the fact that there > were only a very few places where you could go right on red. From what I have heard of boston, the narrow streets with limited visibility seem very similar to J

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power utility office

> On Nov 3, 2015, at 7:38 AM, Joan wrote: > > The tag has already been used a few times (there was four tags in different > places of the world) see it here > https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/office=power_utility#overview >

Re: [Tagging] How to tag traffic islands ?

> On Nov 2, 2015, at 6:37 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > a sign that let's you pass the red light if you turn right and there are no > pedestrians (and not crossing traffic). In America, turning right on a red signal is usually allowed (unless you spot a rare “no turn on red sign”), an

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a "overhead electronic display" ?

> On Nov 2, 2015, at 5:59 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > "travel time to XY 20 minutes" On Japan’s tollways, this is often done with a single-purpose sign with a variable number, and different color of the numbers to indicate delay time. As Japan’s tollway system is really built up,

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a "overhead electronic display" ?

> I think the first group is not a traffic_sign=*, it is information=* Considering the sign is purely for motorist, not tourists, I think it is still very much a traffic sign. But traffic_sign has no framework for non-law signs. no one is going to go find this sign to check something - it is o

Re: [Tagging] Often seen tagging problems regarding junctions

>> >> This makes it (relatively) easy to draw a Zebra crossing, correctly >> orientated along the way. > > > I use the combination of highway =crossing and crossing=uncontrolled for > zebra crossings that are not controlled by traffic lights. On a node on the > road-highway way. > I have be

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a "overhead electronic display" ?

> On Nov 1, 2015, at 12:04 AM, Gerd Petermann > wrote: > > traffic_sign=changing > or > traffic_sign=variable The matrix displays and variable signs are very different. Most speed limit signs in Japan are “variable” - they are small numeric screens that usually vary between 50 and 100 ba

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a "overhead electronic display" ?

> On Oct 29, 2015, at 6:02 PM, Gerd Petermann > wrote: > > rather rare objects. These signs are very very common in Japan. they are usually on the tollway for every 10 minutes of driving. They're constantly updated with either accident, weather, or road conditions. https://goo.gl/maps/bK5L

Re: [Tagging] How to tag traffic islands ?

> On Nov 1, 2015, at 3:05 AM, Gerd Petermann > wrote: > > > > It seems that many mappers associate words like "island" or "traffic island" > with an area on a road that is enclosed by a white line and > maybe hatched lines ("schraffiert”) http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/35.70784/139.7

Re: [Tagging] tunnel=culvert

> On Oct 25, 2015, at 6:27 PM, Ineiev wrote: > >> In my eyes it is the same case as with a >> railway=level_crossing. We map it as a node (and only as a node). >> Did I miss something? > > In this case, the highway and the railway share the same level. +1 the rail and road share an intersect

Re: [Tagging] Heliport tagging

> On Oct 21, 2015, at 6:24 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > I would not define an heliport as a subclass of an airport, but rather as a > subtype of an aerodrome. Didn’t we just vote on and approve a tag defining an heliport as a seperate tag? perhaps I am confused. Javbw___

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - aeroway=heliport

> > I have created/changed all the necessary links and pages, including main > feature page: > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:aeroway%3Dheliport > > If you see something missing or needing more care, please let me know (or > just fix it yourself). I was just updating the tags for m

Re: [Tagging] Postindustrial Castle

> On Oct 17, 2015, at 3:36 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > >> >> Am 16.10.2015 um 14:18 schrieb johnw mailto:jo...@mac.com>>: >> >> and also - how do we handle the grounds? is there landuse=castle? > > > the historic=castle tag will go on

Re: [Tagging] Postindustrial Castle

> On Oct 16, 2015, at 5:49 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > > And btw., you have not yet answered the question regarding the Neuschwanstein > case. I could name a similar example (besides the other Ludwig II castles in > Bavaria), much smaller, here: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lich

Re: [Tagging] RFC key:oven - a tag to add details about a kind of oven

> On Oct 14, 2015, at 9:06 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > >> >> Am 14.10.2015 um 13:49 schrieb Tom Pfeifer > >: >> >> man_made=kiln >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dkiln >> > >

Re: [Tagging] How one may tag object as castle?

> On Oct 14, 2015, at 6:57 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Past practice might be to tag the outer wall as a barrier if one exists. And > then tag the building as a building. > > And that might be the 'best' solution - no separate tag for 'castle'. > This can lead to tagging the ou

Re: [Tagging] How one may tag object as castle?

> On Oct 11, 2015, at 4:08 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > I think the intention is to use "defensive" now: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:castle_type > The interesting thing about these definitions is that the US White House

Re: [Tagging] Shop values review

> On Oct 8, 2015, at 6:48 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Some 'shops' also do repair, servicing of the things they sell. Bicycles has > already been equipped with tags for that, > and I'd think the sub tags should allow for it too... > > For example > > sells:hobby:train=yes >

Re: [Tagging] Shop values review

> On Oct 8, 2015, at 6:54 PM, Tom Pfeifer wrote: > >> > printing - copyshop? >> if they don't offer "copying"? Copyshop would seem wrong in these cases. > > There is a clear difference in a shop that provides copiers > and maybe some laser printers, compared to the trade that > does offset

Re: [Tagging] new access value

> On Oct 5, 2015, at 7:01 PM, Friedrich Volkmann wrote: > > Maybe *=visitors? > or *=guests (but this could make believe that deliverers are excluded) > or *=contact (puzzling?) > or *=contact_with_residents (too bulky?) > or *=contact_with_abutters (same) > or *=in_touch... ? Guests sounds wa

Re: [Tagging] intermittent vs seasonal

> On Oct 3, 2015, at 3:23 PM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > Where wiki recommends converting all waterway=wadi to waterway=river or > stream with intermittent=yes? > > On http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:waterway%3Dwadi > there is >

Re: [Tagging] intermittent vs seasonal

> On Oct 2, 2015, at 2:14 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > suggests replacement of > waterway=wadi and waterway=drystream > with > waterway=river or stream This is idiotic. I’m going to start tagging Interstate 5 in San Diego as an intermittent river that just happens to be a mo

Re: [Tagging] Adding floor location information

> On Sep 30, 2015, at 4:36 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > if the postal address is different to the actual address (e.g. post goes to a > reception which is in another building and does the internal distribution) > I'd still tag the actual address where a feature is located if you are

Re: [Tagging] How to tag cricket nets?

> On Sep 29, 2015, at 2:10 PM, Brad Neuhauser wrote: > > There is a different approach that some have taken to use the sport as the > key and indicate it is a practice area via the value, for example: Then: cricket=practice_nets equestrian=practice_track basketball=hoop (practice is assumed,

Re: [Tagging] Adding floor location information

> On Sep 29, 2015, at 11:04 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > And the tags need to be able to use the local name directly - making the > mappers and checkers job easy - as the floor you are on is called the local > name ..not some OSM name that has to be looked up each time. perhap

Re: [Tagging] How to tag cricket nets?

l etc ... this would indicate it is a > practice pitch .. and that the full sport is played elsewhere. > > This is more restrictive, not covering exercise stations etc. > umm how about leisure:practice=* that would do track and pitch and could > still use sport= > > > On 29/09

[Tagging] Adding floor location information

I am mapping Tokyo Dome City, which is a maze of overlapping amenities (an amusement park on top of a shopping mall with a giant pedestrian area with fountains and ramps, bridges, staircases everywhere). The current issue I am investigating is how to map a large amount of shops onto a single bu

Re: [Tagging] How to tag cricket nets?

Batting cages, putting greens, driving ranges, Pitching cages (usually behind a baseball stadium), and interestingly - horse practice tracks - have all come up in my mapping and faces similar issues. There must be some way of saying this object is for practice, and then Identify the sport. I

Re: [Tagging] Immigration, asylum, refugee centers

> On Sep 24, 2015, at 1:25 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > This is an American view.. the British do not do this - they have a 'central > government' US: Federal (central) State County City Japan: National (central) Prefectural (Provence) City government =/= State government.

Re: [Tagging] Immigration, asylum, refugee centers

> On Sep 24, 2015, at 11:56 AM, Dave Swarthout wrote: > > Here in Thailand there are many nationalities beside English speakers that > make use of these offices, among them are large numbers of Burmese, > Cambodians, Germans, and Japanese. here in Japan it would be mostly non-english speake

[Tagging] accordion gate & rolling double-track gate

I’m wondering if there is a barrier=* tag for these two types of gates. They are the two most popular ones in Japan, but are not are not listed in barrier=*. I would normally tag these as just barrier=gate, but as there are *so many* kinds of gates in barrier=* , I’m wondering if there is a sp

Re: [Tagging] Immigration, asylum, refugee centers

I’ve been wanting to make a amenity=immigration because usually foreign residents (and only foreign residents) go to such facilities - so local mappers are usually unaware of their existence or importance. These are places where people apply for new visas, extensions to existing visas, and cha

Re: [Tagging] Orchards and their crops

> On Sep 16, 2015, at 6:05 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > I suggest you let these plant details rest until someone with more knowledge > in this field pops up ;-) Probably a good idea, but I wanted to cleanup an orchard that was using bad values - but I was unsure of what to change it

Re: [Tagging] Orchards and their crops

> On Sep 15, 2015, at 6:44 PM, Jerry Clough - OSM wrote: > > Hi John, > > No there is nothing I'm aware of which discriminates anywhere between > cultivated pears in general (Pyrus communis) & specific cultivars > ('Conference' ). Cultivar just

[Tagging] Orchards and their crops

I came across some mis-tagged orchards in Japan, and in the process of researching how to tag them correctly, I noticed some discrepancies in the EN and JA wiki pages for orchards, trees, and related things. the JA page for orchard includes the trees= definitions, for example. https://wiki.ope

Re: [Tagging] How is the tag landuse=farmland being used?

Mappers in Japan are tagging seemingly square kilometers of rice fields (or whatever the largest editable area is in ID for some users) and very roughly filling in farmland a to show it at a very low zoom (z12-10) for a good looking map - but so much of the data at high zoom is a 25 year old app

Re: [Tagging] barrier enforcing maxwidth

> On Sep 8, 2015, at 3:22 PM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > On Tue, 08 Sep 2015 12:38:53 +0900 > johnw mailto:jo...@mac.com>> wrote: > >> Is this a reason for creating barrier=width_restrictor ? > > Yes, construction itself also may be mapped (in addition to

[Tagging] barrier enforcing maxwidth

I was driving in Chiba and Saitama yesterday and encountered a couple new types of barriers. I realized later one is traffic_calming=chicane. The other one is all over rural Japan as traffic_calming=choker on rural roads that could bypass traffic near the rivers, - but this one is not for traf

Re: [Tagging] Drafting proposal: use oneway=reversible or create tag?

> On Sep 8, 2015, at 9:46 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Flow direction is the best of these (so far). It is descriptive of what is to > be tagged. What do they use for pipelines? I imagine there is some tag based on the way direction that can indicate flow. Javbw_

Re: [Tagging] Classification problems (was: Re: Road classification)

> On Sep 3, 2015, at 10:11 PM, Daniel Koć wrote: > > > I think that's what should be expected, so I'm not surprised at all. It's > probably easier to make a hand-picked map in a fixed scale of one country by > one expert, than the rules for the automatically generated map of the whole > wo

Re: [Tagging] Heliport tagging

> On Sep 3, 2015, at 8:39 PM, Daniel Koć wrote: > > I was trying to use helicopter icon for rendering helipads on default style, > but it looks like it was not needed here and instead it could be good to be > used for heliports. However they are currently unrecognizable from plane > airport

Re: [Tagging] Trolltags

> On Sep 1, 2015, at 6:59 PM, p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote: > > On Tue Sep 1 10:49:56 2015 GMT+0100, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: >> >> I unsure about highway=bridleway+bicycle=designated but given that it >> appears 2 129 times worldwide it is likely that is also may be >> considered as mistake. >>

Re: [Tagging] Proposed mechanical edit: surface=soil to surface=dirt

> On Aug 31, 2015, at 7:11 PM, Tom Pfeifer wrote: > >> Totally agree, I support this edit. > > +1, also the definition of 'dirt' should be improved in the wiki (currently > referring back to 'ground'), and 'soil' should be written into the wiki as > deprecated > and not to be used. > > tom +

Re: [Tagging] Construction

> On Aug 31, 2015, at 8:53 AM, Andrew MacKinnon wrote: > > The Gardiner is reduced to 2 lanes (was 3), the speed limit is lowered and it > is causing huge traffic jams. if it is still a motorway, it is a motorway. reduce the lanes and the maxspeed, adjust the alignment of the motorway to be

Re: [Tagging] Buildings mixing residential and commercial use

> On Aug 31, 2015, at 9:26 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I think it better to bite the bullet and start sub tagging correctly ... thus > for a retail mixed with apartments I would still like to separate mixed use buildings there there are multiple disparate tenants per building

Re: [Tagging] Shop vs amenity

> On Aug 30, 2015, at 4:55 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > indeed the buildings are just buildings (eventually with own names, start > dates and other attributes) , it's not them to put the name for the "whole" > complex on. But IMHO it's neither a landuse object, it's an object with a

Re: [Tagging] Shop vs amenity

> On Aug 26, 2015, at 2:14 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > So ALL shops should all be together under shops= (even though all shops are > in fact amenities too). Same for offices. > This reduces the amenity= values to those that are not offices nor shops. I think the easiest way to

Re: [Tagging] landuse=religious & Monastic schools

> On Aug 23, 2015, at 3:09 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > >> >> This was my error - but it would sit on a single tourism=theme park outline. > > > yes, it is a single theme park, but likely not a single landuse I think this is the argument against landuse=grass. The rides certainly hav

Re: [Tagging] Amenities for kids parties

There has been a lot of talk about a "event venues" tag- a rentable loacation for events of any kind - like a banquet hall in a hotel, or professional "hall" used for corporate parties, weddings, or other events. There are businesses that offer kids parties - usually commercial facilities that

Re: [Tagging] landcover=trees definition

> On Aug 20, 2015, at 7:36 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > > > sent from a phone > >> Am 18.08.2015 um 22:54 schrieb John Willis : >> >> What if its grass along a (maintained) river embankment, but roped off so no >> one can walk on it, as it is not a park? > > > meadow? what's the

Re: [Tagging] Shop= values and a sub key for detail?

> On Aug 14, 2015, at 9:47 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > shop=scale_model > vending:scale_model:kits=yes > vending:scale_model:parts=yes (as in selling parts/materials to make a scale > model) accessories, tools, consumables, supplies… supplies might be a good word that can be u

[Tagging] Help undoing an admin level 3 edit to Japan

A few months ago, someone enabled admin level 3 on regional boundaries in Japan. This is an error, but I don’t know how to deal with it. Admin level 3 boundaries are reserved for future for “states” of Japan. The regions currently have historical names, but just like “So-cal” or “New England

[Tagging] Mapping overlapping Pedestrian areas?

Places where Pedestrian areas overlap are very difficult for me to map and also render very badly. I was wondering if someone has some suggestions on how to map this area https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map=19/35.77740/140.31301

Re: [Tagging] New Key capacity:*=n values

So back to capacity:*=n discussion. -The vehicle parking lots I usually tag have the following kinds of parking spaces, marked with signs and broken up into groups (visible on service area signs): (Some values taken from the access=* key wiki page. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:acce

Re: [Tagging] highway=footway - Advanced definition: Distinction footway vs path

> On Aug 7, 2015, at 6:07 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > what is this legal name/ shield designation about, the relative importance of > the highway as a connection in the road network? Or something else like who > maintains the road (typically more politics and history than traffic log

Re: [Tagging] highway=footway - Advanced definition: Distinction footway vs path

> On Aug 7, 2015, at 5:31 PM, Marc Gemis wrote: > > For Belgium we follow this convention: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Eimai/Belgian_Roads#Paths > > It's full of highway=path examples. You'll give us a lot of wor

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