Re: Thanks for output on touch screens

Larry, Just to clarify, don't think for a second that anyone is doing anything remotely resembling "normal" typing on these on screen keyboards. Think of them as keyboards for text messaging, brief email replies, and so on. Everyone uses real keyboards for any real typing. Otherwise, dictation

Re: a question about using touch screens

Slight correction if you're talking about iOS. When you can simply lift your finger to enter a character that's touch typing. For me it's much faster than having to double tap or split tap. And for dictation I never use the button. A two finger double tap starts and stops dictation. Regards,

Re: future of WE

The upgrade was in the windows update. It took 3 hours to upgrade, but Window-Eyes is working well. It left all my settings and desk top the same as the older version of windows 10 anivercery edition. Excuse the spelling. It's getting late here. Pastor Gil -Original Message- From:

RE: fat fingers and touch screens!

I'd be interested in that device. Please send info to but...@fairpoint.net Thanks. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. On Thu, 6 Apr 2017, Barbara via Talk wrote: Well I briefly looked at a device at the 2017 CSUN conference which connects to an iPhone. This device has physical buttons

RE: future of WE

Hi Chris, If you open the Windows Update dialog, there is an option to force the update to install, or you can wait for it to do it itself eventually. In the Cortana search box, type "update." When Check for Updates appears, press Enter. In the dialog which appears, read the whole dialog with

RE: KNFB reader

Hi Charlie, Yes, KNFBReader for Windows 10 is fully accessible with Window-Eyes and Narrator. Good luck, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Charles Short via Talk Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2017 5:35 PM To:

Re: NVDA addons

www.grossgang.com www.nvaccess.org On 4/6/2017 10:57 PM, Andy Baracco wrote: URLs please? Andy - Original Message - From: "Joshua Kennedy via Talk" To: "'Window-Eyes Discussion List'" Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 7:23 PM

Re: NVDA addons

URLs please? Andy - Original Message - From: "Joshua Kennedy via Talk" To: "'Window-Eyes Discussion List'" Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 7:23 PM Subject: NVDA addons you get all of the addons from the NVDA community addons

touch devices

if you would use an android device if you decide to switch to one, you will find many file managers that gives you access to the file system and folder or directory structure like you find in windows. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this

using touch screens

touch screens are quite easy to use. when the screen reader whether its talkback for android or voiceover for iPhone is turned on, when you put your finger or the pen on the screen talkback will read what is under your finger. there are different gestures you use to quickly move around apps

NVDA addons

you get all of the addons from the NVDA community addons website. you can also get some from Jeff's NVDA addons page. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai

RE: WindowsI phone and other non window eyes discussion

Hi Tony, I'm for broadening your knowledge and learning the touch-screen gadgets, but my guess is that even these will turn into dinosaurs in short order once the tech companies perfect the digital assistants. Very soon, you'll be able to sit back and do everything with your voice, assuming

Re: future of WE

i am going to do just that. I'm going to wait until it appears in Windows update before I install it. I thought i made that clear before, my apollogies. On 4/6/2017 8:34 PM, michael's emails via Talk wrote: how are you ment to hold off on the win ten update it will just down load on win

RE: WindowsI phone and other non window eyes discussion

Tony, What some of us are worried about is how committed the new world will be to supporting software for employment situations. I use older software on the job that does not seem to work with NVDA or Narrator but does work with JAWS and Window-Eyes. These two screen readers have some tricks

Re: future of WE

how are you ment to hold off on the win ten update it will just down load on win ten home. Cheers Michael. -Original Message- From: net bat via Talk Sent: Friday, April 7, 2017 5:22 AM To: Chris Skarstad ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: future of WE may be , may be not.

Re: future of window-eyes

If Window Eyes is to be around, all this silence and all the speculation that is being talked about without any response has to be hurting any future sales. Not good business practice. - Original Message - From: Dennis Long via Talk To: 'Chris Skarstad' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion

RE: future of window-eyes

I agree. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 6:36 PM To: net bat; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: future of window-eyes The podcast I heard on Main

Re: future of window-eyes

Hello, Well, from a business view point. What would be the reason to spend lot's of money on a product that is loosing popularity not only due to cost, but to the fact that free and/or lower cost products are out performing it. It's kind of like when we had 8 track tapes and cassetts

RE: future of window-eyes

If you were treating this industry as a business, when would you make major announcements? The speculation from list members suggests close to your summer conventions - NFB and ACB. However: Freedom Scientific has a new 40 cell Braille notetaker coming out later this year. I've already

RE: WindowsI phone and other non window eyes discussion

Hello Vaughan. Sky here. Originally, when NVDA started, it wasn't their intention to put Window-Eyes, or JAWS out of business. This was back in 2007. The only way Window-Eyes could even continue to be updated, being free, was if the company was nonprophet and they were relying on donations.

Re: future of window-eyes

The podcast I heard on Main menu indicated that Window-eyes will be around for the forseeable future. If any updates have to be made, i'm sure they'll make them available. Many people have indicated that this is the case, yet these rumors and speculation that it's dying continues. People

RE: WindowsI phone and other non window eyes discussion

Jim: who is this guy Dave? I talked recently to a very senior person with VFO, (as have others) and the message is essentially no on-going development of Window-Eyes. Who would buy it anyway? Most of the recent discussion on this list has been about free screen reader solutions of one sort or

Thanks for output on touch screens

Hey Listers, A big thanks for so many responses to my question regarding touch screens. As it stands, right now, I am not quite ready to get serious about using an iDevice or any other at present. However, there is a chance that at some point that with the flux in the screen reading field, it

Re: WindowsI phone and other non window eyes discussion

Hi there! It seems as though I have went down this road before, Window-Eyes is still being sold at least by the Ai-Squared through VFO or whatever they're called now,and yes I talked to Dave from Ai-Squared just a few days ago. He Assured me that Window-Eyes was still alive and kicking for

future of window-eyes

may be no one is saying anything because they have not decided on what to do with w e. develop it the way they always have done, re write it from scratch, merge some of its features into jaws or abandon it all to gether. -Original Message- From: Ian Westerland via Talk Sent:

Re: a question about using touch screens

Yes, patience, I can confirm this. When you first encounter a touchscreen, move your finger around slowly so that the device has a chance to speak what you've touched before your finger has moved halfway across the screen. That was the problem I had when I first got my iPad Mini. I made things

Re: a question about using touch screens

I am not very fast with it but once I learn the layout that is correct but I do use dictation or a Bluetooth keyboard most of the time. You could do it, I'm sure he could. Jo Taliaferro On Apr 6, 2017, at 1:23 PM, Tony C via Talk wrote: Myself, I know the

WE and Creator version of Win 10

I just installed the creator update to Windows 10. WE seems to work just as it did. Still works poorly with the Edge browser. NVDA however works pretty well with Edge under Creator version of Win 10. If as is currently being mentioned that there will be no more real development of WE I am

Re: WindowsI phone and other non window eyes discussion

I agree on this. WE will be the first to go, next will be Jaws. They had their day, but times and technology are changing. It's kind of funny really, for years I've heard blind people complaining about the high cost of these "special" things for the blind because they are not main stream. Now

KNFB reader

Hello, KNFB reader is available for Windows 10. Will it work with Window-Eyes? Thanks, Charlie Short ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For

Re: Another Main Memu podcast from CSUN discussing future of window-eyes

Hi everyone. Firstly, it was good to listen to the PodCast. There was a lot of information. Now, for some comments that are not made to further stir troubled waters but merely to contribute to the discussion. However, I have some thoughts about what might be the eventual outcome for

RE: a question about using touch screens

Larry, using a touchscreen requires a good deal of practice, practice, practice! And, patience! You'll need more than a dose of it. But, you can do it if there are NO DEXTERITY issues. Whilst you are familiarizing yourself with the concept, it may be nice to allow yourself to double tap a

Re: WindowsI phone and other non window eyes discussion

yes, but whats to talk about? most of the support and programmers are gone, most stores have stopped selling w e. their not going to keep a screen reader around that is hemoriging to death and not bringing in any money. jaws is going through the same thing. its just going to take longer for it

Re: a question about using touch screens

I have my typing mode set to standard keyboard. When I touch a letter, if I want that letter I lift, if not I slide to the letter I want. I use the backspace a lot and also dictation helps. There is a dictation button on the lower left near the spacebar. If I do any writing of any length,

Re: Another Main Memu podcast from CSUN discussing future of window-eyes

Interesting podcast. Jeff Bishop said he only said what he did because of the nda (nondisclosure agreement?). His words were W-e will be here for now or words to that effect. Interesting, he also said since VFO has merged that there is more unity (or something like that). brenda On

RE: making the switch

Russ, even if Voice Dream Reader DOES NOT do all you wish for, the Android platform has so many apps that are either free or inexpensive that will fit the bill! That, I believe, is what sets Android apart in so many ways! For example, I have a PDF-TO-SPEECH app that will read PDF formatted

RE: Windows screen readers

Hi Don, If you regularly call the same telephone menu, you can program pauses into the dialing sequence by adding a comma or two, followed by the numbers to dial, followed by more commas and more numbers etc. Hth, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk

Re: fat fingers and touch screens!

I would like that link. Thanks tch...@mediacombb.net -Original Message- From: Barbara via Talk Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2017 3:45 PM To: 'Kurlander Richard (75)' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' ; 'net bat' Subject: RE: fat fingers and touch screens! Well I briefly looked at a

Re: Windows screen readers

I've spoken with Apple about this issue, and maybe if several people alert them to this issue they will try to make it better in the next updates. -Original Message- From: Kevin Huber via Talk Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2017 3:40 PM To: Donald L. Roberts ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

RE: WindowsI phone and other non window eyes discussion

Isn't this a window eyes list? How are apple devices now window eyes? -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Evan Reese via Talk Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 2:46 PM To: net bat; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject:

RE: fat fingers and touch screens!

Well I briefly looked at a device at the 2017 CSUN conference which connects to an iPhone. This device has physical buttons which replaces the flicking. I am sure this will be useful to those who have problems flicking either by preference or because of a disability. If anyone is interested, I

Re: Windows screen readers

My I phone at least 95 percent of the time the number pad is on the screen. If not in the center at the top is the number you are callling and you just tap that to show keypad. It can be a pain sometimes but there are some settings you can change to make things simpler. -Original

Re: Golden Cursor for NVDA

Rod, I am fairly new to NVDA. Are there instructions on how to use the mouse cursor functionality after I install it? For example, what keys to use? Also, will this add on work with NVDA 16.2? Thank you much. Butch -- BK ___

Re: Windows screen readers

Hi Don: I have run into that situation, I use my bluetooth keyboard and I use the VO-right and left arrows to arrow between the numbers. Of course, you have to do this quickly so that it doesn't time out, but it has worked for me a majority of the time. Sometimes, the window looses focus, and

Re: future of WE

Microsoft is always releasing bug fixes. In the past once a month. - Original Message - From: Stephen Clark via Talk To: net bat ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2017 4:34 PM Subject: Re: future of WE Well, that's funny because I have the final

Re: Anyone have new support phone number?

Hi there! This is a number that I got from a call from Dave at AI-Squared. The number rings into VFO but you are given a menu which contains AiSquared. The Number is, 727-803-8000. Again you are presented with a menu which you can choose AiSquared. I left a message and got a call from

Re: future of WE

Well, that's funny because I have the final release installed. They are Rowling it out in phases like they did with the Anniversary Edition. On 4/6/2017 3:22 PM, net bat via Talk wrote: may be , may be not. microsoft is allowing this early download but it is not the final autherized release.

Re: Windows screen readers

Speaking of those things I don't like on the iPhone, how about when you make a phone call into an automated system where you have to type more numbers. The keypad is hidden when the call is answered, so you have to tap around to unhide the keyboard to type the additional numbers. By that

Re: fat fingers and touch screens!

Yes, I use the side of my thumb quite often. On 4/6/2017 2:18 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote: Hi Netbat, Fat fingers should have no impact whatsoever on your use of a touch screen. You normally just repeatedly flick in whatever direction you need to in order to select an item, and then just

Re: Windows screen readers

You can however use the I could to store files. -Original Message- From: Evan Reese via Talk Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2017 1:46 PM To: net bat ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Windows screen readers I know, and while I like my iPad Mini 4, and I've found a lot of fun and

Re: Anyone have new support phone number?

On 4/5/17, Michael via Talk wrote: > Hi. Actually, for the past few months, no matter which phone number you > call, you will reach the VFO phone system. You can still call the Ai > Squared number which is (802) 362-3612. You'll have to take things from > there,

Re: future of WE

may be , may be not. microsoft is allowing this early download but it is not the final autherized release. there may be some more bug fixes before the final release. some web sites are telling people to wait for a few months. like the anaversory release it had many subsaquent upgrades to fix

Re: future of WE

wait. hold on. it's out today? it's only April 6th and it wasn't supposed to be out til later in the month. On 4/6/2017 2:31 PM, Loy via Talk wrote: Just upgraded to Windows Creator and Window Eyes is working great with it. - Original Message - From: Don H via Talk To:

Re: a question about using touch screens

that works as long as the iphone is set to double tap. grin there is a touch typeing setting too. with this on the keyboard buttons will activate as soon as your finger leaves the button without tapping the screen. -Original Message- From: Tony C via Talk Sent: Thursday, April 06,

Re: Windows screen readers

I know, and while I like my iPad Mini 4, and I've found a lot of fun and useful things to do with it, it does bug me that I can't view the file system and that I can't just copy and paste files to and from it as I can with other non-Apple devices. It also bothers me that I can't simply pop an

Re: a question about using touch screens

Karen, the word you're looking for standard typing. Joseph Hudson Email jhud7...@gmail.com I device support Telephone 2543007667 Skype joseph.hudson89 facebook https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404 Twitter https://twitter.com/josephhudson89 FaceTime/iMessage jhud7...@yahoo.com > On Apr

RE: a question about using touch screens

Larry, On the iPhone and iPad, as you slide your finger over the on screen keyboard, Voiceover will say the letters. There are two typing modes. With the first one, I can't remember what they call it, you tap twice to select the letter. With the second, which is the one I use, I think it's

Re: Windows screen readers

one thing i don't like about iphones is there is no access to the file structure to access, move, copy or delete files and folders. it can't even be viewed connected to a computer as a flash drive. *** but. . . since i found out about the item chooser it makes sifari browseing much easier to

Re: future of WE

Just upgraded to Windows Creator and Window Eyes is working great with it. - Original Message - From: Don H via Talk To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2017 2:24 PM Subject: future of WE OK so it seems that the news is that WE will continue to work

Re: a question about using touch screens

Hi there! Sorry if I called you by the wrong name, my mistake if I did. . On 06-Apr-17 14:22, Jim wrote: Hi Larry! I have been using touch screens for arou 5 to 6 years and yes at first it was rather difficult. But I did eventually get use to them-now to the point that I have little or

Re: a question about using touch screens

Hi Larry! I have been using touch screens for arou 5 to 6 years and yes at first it was rather difficult. But I did eventually get use to them-now to the point that I have little or no difficulty using them at all! It is just a mattewr of searching around until you find what you want and

Re: fat fingers and touch screens!

I haven't marked my screen in any way, I just learned the position of the things I use most. -Original Message- From: Kurlander Richard (75) via Talk Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2017 1:17 PM To: net bat ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: RE: fat fingers and touch screens! How

future of WE

OK so it seems that the news is that WE will continue to work with the next version of Windows 10. That is good news however nothing is being said about making any real updates to WE now or in the future. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this

Re: a question about using touch screens

Myself, I know the keyboard is layed out just likd a regular keyboard fo whatever letter myy finger lands on first I know about where to move to for the letter I need. When you first touch a letter, Icon, or whatever using voice over the voice over will speak the letter when you hear the

RE: Windows screen readers

Siri doesn't add or delete for you, wish it would do that. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rkurlan=schools.nyc@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 2:12 PM To: Butch Bussen ; Window-Eyes

RE: fat fingers and touch screens!

Hi Netbat, Fat fingers should have no impact whatsoever on your use of a touch screen. You normally just repeatedly flick in whatever direction you need to in order to select an item, and then just double-tab to activate it. With respect, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk

RE: fat fingers and touch screens!

How does a totally blind like myself know where to put the pen on the screne? Does it work well for you?I have a terrible with the iphone touch screen even there is a partial braille keyboard from speed dots. I have the the iphone se -Original Message- From: Talk

a question about using touch screens

OK folks, I've been wanting to ask this for a long time. Not having ever attempted to use a tablet, iPhone or any other touch screen device, I realize just how stupid this question might sound, but bear with me, OK? I just want to know how a blind user like myself avoids becoming a hunt and

RE: Windows screen readers

Hi Butch, I'm wondering what exactly it is about touch screens you don't like. I will admit that learning the gestures can take some time, but perhaps you never quite got the knack of it, and so you have concluded that not everyone can learn it. My wife had quite a bit of difficulty learning it

fat fingers and touch screens!

if you have fat fingers try useing a touch screen pen. you can get them on ebay or amazon for about $10 for a pack of 3. you use these in place of your fingers. -Original Message- From: Kevin Huber via Talk Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 10:23 AM To: Butch Bussen ; Window-Eyes

Re: Windows screen readers

Hi Butch: I was interested in what you had to say about IPads and IPhones and stuff like that. I have had an IPhone for just over two years and, like you, I used to be totally lost when it came to anything with a touch screen. In fact, I can find my way around my IPhone quite well, or, at

Re: Windows screen readers

Yes, but you get along with touch screens. some of us don't. Glad it works for you. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. On Thu, 6 Apr 2017, Russ Kiehne wrote: I took a lot of thime thinking about if I should get a second generation victor reader stream when they came out or a ipad mini.

Re: Another Main Memu podcast from CSUN discussing future ofwindow-eyes

That's good to know. Honestly, I'd rather pay the $50 or so for the upgrade fees as oppose to the over $200 that the competition charges. Keep up the good work Window-Eyes! - Original Message - From: "Rebecca Lineberger via Talk" To: "'Window-Eyes

RE: Another Main Memu podcast from CSUN discussing future of window-eyes

Thanks for this podcast. Not much was said about Window-Eyes, except that it would continue. I called VFO to ask if the current version of Window-Eyes would be ready for the coming Windows update, and was told that it worked. I also said that we were feeling a bit neglected, smile, with all the

RE: making the switch

Hi, I don't think it reads Apple Pages files on the Android version, but I could be wrong. All the best Steve -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve=comproom.co...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Joshua Kennedy via Talk Sent: 06 April 2017 15:39 To: Russ Kiehne

RE: making the switch

Hi, Kindle fire is not the best example of Android, it is somewhat modified. All the best Steve -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve=comproom.co...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk Sent: 06 April 2017 14:22 To: Tony C ;

RE: making the switch

Hi, Voice Dream for Android is even better in that you can use even more voices. I have Eloquence for Android. Try that on the iPhone. All the best Steve -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve=comproom.co...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk

Re: making the switch

I have not tested all those file types, but I think it probably would. On 4/6/2017 9:18 AM, Russ Kiehne wrote: Does it do all of the following? With voice dream reader, I can read books from bookshare, unprotected epub. Supported File Formats PDF, EPUB (DRM free), DAISY 3.0 text-based

Another Main Memu podcast from CSUN discussing future of window-eyes

In this podcast, the future of window-eyes is discussed http://mainmenu.acbradio.org/podcast/2017-03-31.mp3 ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For

Re: Windows screen readers

I took a lot of thime thinking about if I should get a second generation victor reader stream when they came out or a ipad mini. I ended up getting a ipad mini because it does everything I would do with a victor reader stream and a lot more. It has better sound, more volume and better battery

Re: making the switch

The Tablet I'm thinking about getting is the Kindle Fire. This way I can get a feel for android and have access to Alexa. -Original Message- From: Tony C Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2017 8:00 AM To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: making the switch I think it is

Re: making the switch

Does it do all of the following? With voice dream reader, I can read books from bookshare, unprotected epub. Supported File Formats PDF, EPUB (DRM free), DAISY 3.0 text-based eBooks, DAISY 2.02 audiobooks, Zipped MP3 files, such as LibriVox, Plain Text, Rich Text Format (RTF), Microsoft Word,