RE: help?

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

A program called Switch Sound File Converter can do this.

-Original Message-
From: Talk  On
Behalf Of Carol Smith via Talk
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 8:51 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: Carol Smith 
Subject: help?

Hi,

My brother needs to convert his ring tones from mp3 to m4b.  Is there an
easy and screen reader friendly way to do this?  Thanks.

Carol


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RE: Win 10 And WE 9.5.4

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

Since we are on this general subject, which web browsers work with Window-Eyes 
9.5.4? It is my understanding that Firefox doesn't work with it. Does it work 
with the new Chromium Edge, Google Chrome, Brave, etc.?

-Original Message-
From: Talk  On Behalf 
Of peter Chin via Talk
Sent: Monday, September 7, 2020 9:58 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: peter Chin 
Subject: Re: Win 10 And WE 9.5.4

Hello Rod,

Could you please tell us which were the apps which were giving trouble to 
Wineyes?

A friend of mine didn't like WinEyes because she said, it was very slugish.
-Original Message-
From: Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 10:51 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Rod Hutton
Subject: Re: Win 10 And WE 9.5.4

Hi Tom,

At one time, there were a few apps which needed to be either disabled or 
uninstalled in order for Window-Eyes to work in Windows 10.
On my current system, which runs the latest version of Windows 10, this is no 
longer true.
Without exception, every default Window-Eyes app is running here.
A few months back, someone had written to this list with the news that they had 
even gotten an app update from the Window-Eyes server.
No doubt, this was because they had an outdated app, but I recall being very 
surprised to hear that app updates where available from the old Window-Eyes 
server.
I know for certain that there was a time when the Window-Eyes app update server 
was not active.
My guess is that there is some guardian angel or angels keeping Window-Eyes 
working for the many people throughout the world who need it.
I am one of those who need it.
I have yet to find any other screen reader which allows me to manage the 
connection and disconnection of attached devices between the host and virtual 
machines on the current version of VMWare Workstation.
Indeed, this is very surprising to me, that is, that I cannot get Jaws or NVDA 
or Narrator to focus those device icons, but the truth is before me, and so I 
am saved by Window-Eyes.
Also, I have yet to find a screen reader which is as perky reading email in 
Outlook which is part of Microsoft 365.
Microsoft 365 is the new name of Office 365, the subscription-based Office 
product.
The Office Enhance and Outlook Enhance Window-Eyes apps work perfectly to allow 
me to read and write in Outlook.
So, Tom, I simply want to suggest  that you don't give up on Window-Eyes.

Take good care,

Rod

Sent from Outlook for Windows

On 2020-08-31, 3:33 PM, "Talk on behalf of Tom via Talk"
 wrote:

I've had Windows 10 for a few days now and it seemed to get
worse each day. To day it's useless.

Window-Eyes 9.5.4

Could it be the APPS interfering with Windows 10?

When I figure out how to remove Window-Eyes I'll try
installing it with no apps.

Thanks,

Tom

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FW: Data Drive in Windows 10

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

I actually believe I accidentally backed up my Windows drive onto the data
drive rather than my external drive.

-Original Message-
From: Talk  On
Behalf Of Tom Fairhurst via Talk
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2019 7:24 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: tfairhu...@kc.rr.com
Subject: Data Drive in Windows 10

This is odd. I recently discovered that my data drive became a Windows
drive. How may I fix this? I do have my data backed up. Write off list since
this is not screen reader related. Thanks.

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Data Drive in Windows 10

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

This is odd. I recently discovered that my data drive became a Windows
drive. How may I fix this? I do have my data backed up. Write off list since
this is not screen reader related. Thanks.

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RE: Window-Eyes and Windows 10 1903

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

Thanks for your help. I will consider these options if need be. Go figure.
It is working today. When installing Window-Eyes, I haven't needed to worry
about this. I am aware that in web browsers and some software programs that
the mouse keys don't perform well, but they usually work on the desktop and
in Winamp, for example.

-Original Message-
From: Talk  On
Behalf Of net bat via Talk
Sent: Friday, August 9, 2019 11:59 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: net bat 
Subject: Re: Window-Eyes and Windows 10 1903

did you try useing the emergency removal tool. this is an option from the w
e setup disk. but you should use another synthisizer to do this. it won't
say anything until the removal is complete. about 30 seconds.
***
some of this may just be cetting changes you need to make. my mouse still
speaks when moved over the text. so does the arrow keys. this is a desktop
and
win10 and 7.
the mouse usually will not speak things like dialog boxes or pop up messages
in firefox.
it was doing this with win7 but win10 is worse.
***
look in the mouse settings turn off interuptability in  voice set it to
instent  this may be set to echo nothing.
and when mouse  passes over a word this can be set to speak word or line
etc.
i haven't found the option to make the arrow keys speak  text on the screen
yet.

-Original Message-
From: Tom Fairhurst via Talk
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 9:13 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: tfairhu...@kc.rr.com
Subject: Window-Eyes and Windows 10 1903

This happened occasionally in the past, but a reload of Window-Eyes 9.5.4
usually fixed it. However, now, it seems permanent. The mouse keys read
nothing. The corner keys read their function but nothing else. The arrow
keys read nothing at all-no text is spoken. Unless I can figure out how to
correct this, Window-Eyes 9.5.4 is rapidly becoming extinct.

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Window-Eyes and Windows 10 1903

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

This happened occasionally in the past, but a reload of Window-Eyes 9.5.4
usually fixed it. However, now, it seems permanent. The mouse keys read
nothing. The corner keys read their function but nothing else. The arrow
keys read nothing at all-no text is spoken. Unless I can figure out how to
correct this, Window-Eyes 9.5.4 is rapidly becoming extinct.

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RE: Windows Update 1903

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

I have had that message before. I go ahead and press the Update and Shut
Down option and have had no problems. That type of update is not as major as
when updating a Windows build as from 1809 to 1903. Again,  this has been my
experience.

-Original Message-
From: Talk  On
Behalf Of Carol Smith via Talk
Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2019 9:38 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: Carol Smith 
Subject: Re: Windows Update 1903

Hi Tom,

Thank you for the information.  When I go to shut down my PC, there is an
option for update and shut down.  If I do this, is there anything I need to
know?  I have WE set to run at startup. I still need to run it manyally
after Windows is loaded.  Should I stop it from loading at the logon screen?
Thanks.

Carol


On 8/3/2019 8:28 PM, Tom Fairhurst via Talk wrote:
> You will be alerted. At least, I was. A choice appeared in the Windows 
> Shut-Down dialog. However, when I pressed "Update and Restart," the 
> update didn't take place. I pressed the Windows key to get the search 
> box and started typing "update." I pressed Enter and was placed in the 
> Update dialog. I then pressed "Check for Updates." At that point, I 
> was given several choices including "Restart Now," Restart Later," and 
> I believe, "Schedule Restart." I was told that the update was ready to 
> install, and Windows needed my help to proceed. . I pressed "Restart 
> Now." With some fear and trepidation, I waited for my PC to do 
> something. After about 20 minutes, it seemed to chirp back to life. 
> Everything seems fie now. Keep in mind that your results may differ if 
> your updates are set to "Automatic." Mine are not. I believe that is 
> still possible in Windows 10. I have Windows 10 Home edition. The Pro 
> edition may have more options. Other listers may be able to shed
additional light on this.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk  
> On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Talk
> Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2019 12:58 PM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
> Cc: Carol Smith 
> Subject: Re: Windows Update 1903
>
> Thanks.  It says I am running 1803 Pro.  Will I be alerted to update 
> or will it happen automatically?  Thanks.
>
> Carol
>
>
> On 8/3/2019 1:44 PM, Darrell Bowles via Talk wrote:
>> Press Windows and then type winver and press enter.
>> Thanks,
>> Darrell
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Talk  On 
>> Behalf Of Carol Smith via Talk
>> Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2019 1:42 PM
>> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
>> Cc: Carol Smith 
>> Subject: Re: Windows Update 1903
>>
>> This may be a silly question, but how do I find the Win10 version I 
>> am
> currently running?
>> Carol
>>
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RE: Windows Update 1903

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

You will be alerted. At least, I was. A choice appeared in the Windows
Shut-Down dialog. However, when I pressed "Update and Restart," the update
didn't take place. I pressed the Windows key to get the search box and
started typing "update." I pressed Enter and was placed in the Update
dialog. I then pressed "Check for Updates." At that point, I was given
several choices including "Restart Now," Restart Later," and I believe,
"Schedule Restart." I was told that the update was ready to install, and
Windows needed my help to proceed. . I pressed "Restart Now." With some fear
and trepidation, I waited for my PC to do something. After about 20 minutes,
it seemed to chirp back to life. Everything seems fie now. Keep in mind that
your results may differ if your updates are set to "Automatic." Mine are
not. I believe that is still possible in Windows 10. I have Windows 10 Home
edition. The Pro edition may have more options. Other listers may be able to
shed additional light on this.

-Original Message-
From: Talk  On
Behalf Of Carol Smith via Talk
Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2019 12:58 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: Carol Smith 
Subject: Re: Windows Update 1903

Thanks.  It says I am running 1803 Pro.  Will I be alerted to update or will
it happen automatically?  Thanks.

Carol


On 8/3/2019 1:44 PM, Darrell Bowles via Talk wrote:
> Press Windows and then type winver and press enter.
> Thanks,
> Darrell
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk  On 
> Behalf Of Carol Smith via Talk
> Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2019 1:42 PM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
> Cc: Carol Smith 
> Subject: Re: Windows Update 1903
>
> This may be a silly question, but how do I find the Win10 version I am
currently running?
>
> Carol
>
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RE: Windows Update 1903

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

I just got brave and did it. JAWS came right up. I exited JAWS and tried
Window-Eyes. It came right up. Every installation file I can think of is on
the data drive. Only the programs, themselves, are on the SD drive. Even my
backup outlook .pst file is on my data drive. Oh yes, my printer still
works, too. Fortunately, I didn't need to worry about anything. Thanks
again.

-Original Message-
From: Talk  On
Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2019 9:25 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: Rod Hutton 
Subject: RE: Windows Update 1903

Hi Tom,

Could you please clarify which installation files are on the data drive?
Will Windows 10 be installed on the SSD?
If so, your data drive will be quite safe.

Rod
Rod

Sent from Outlook for Windows

-Original Message-
From: Talk  On
Behalf Of Tom Fairhurst via Talk
Sent: August 3, 2019 9:29 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
Cc: tfairhu...@kc.rr.com
Subject: RE: Windows Update 1903

Thanks for everyone's help. I do not have Window-Eyes running at start-up. I
have an SD drive and a data drive. My installation files are on the data
drive. Could the data drive be ruined, too?

-Original Message-
From: Talk  On
Behalf Of Butch Bussen via Talk
Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2019 6:25 AM
To: Rod Hutton via Talk 
Cc: Butch Bussen 
Subject: RE: Windows Update 1903

When I did that a year or so ago and left window-eyes installed, the machine
locked up.  I was on line with microsoft and their oly solution was to
completelly blow it away and start over so I lost all of my files and
settings.  If you do hleave window-eyes on the machine, set it not to run at
boot up.
73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.


On Sat, 3 Aug 2019, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:

> Netbat,
>
> Actually, that is not quite correct.
> It is not necessary to uninstall Window-Eyes if you are upgrading a
Windows 7 machine to Windows 10.
> Rather, you can leave Window-Eyes installed.
> After the upgrade, You must reinstall Window-Eyes in order to upgrade 
> the
audio driver.
> Leaving Window-Eyes installed allows you to preserve your Window-Eyes
settings after upgrading to Windows 10 and then reinstalling Window-Eyes.
>
> Hth,
>
> Rod
>
> Sent from Outlook for Windows
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk 
> On Behalf Of net bat via Talk
> Sent: August 3, 2019 12:24 AM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
> Cc: net bat 
> Subject: Re: Windows Update 1903
>
> no.
> this only applies if you are upgrading from windows 7 to 10.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Tom Fairhurst via Talk
> Sent: Friday, August 02, 2019 9:18 PM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Cc: tfairhu...@kc.rr.com
> Subject: Windows Update 1903
>
> I am upgrading Windows 10 for the first time. I currently have Windows
> 10 1809. I am being asked to upgrade to version 1903. I have 
> Window-Eyes 9.5.4 on my PC. I want to keep my current programs and 
> settings. I have heard that I must uninstall Window-Eyes first. Is 
> this true? I also currently have JAWS
> 2019  on my PC.
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RE: Windows Update 1903

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

Thanks for everyone's help. I do not have Window-Eyes running at start-up. I
have an SD drive and a data drive. My installation files are on the data
drive. Could the data drive be ruined, too?

-Original Message-
From: Talk  On
Behalf Of Butch Bussen via Talk
Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2019 6:25 AM
To: Rod Hutton via Talk 
Cc: Butch Bussen 
Subject: RE: Windows Update 1903

When I did that a year or so ago and left window-eyes installed, the machine
locked up.  I was on line with microsoft and their oly solution was to
completelly blow it away and start over so I lost all of my files and
settings.  If you do hleave window-eyes on the machine, set it not to run at
boot up.
73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.


On Sat, 3 Aug 2019, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:

> Netbat,
>
> Actually, that is not quite correct.
> It is not necessary to uninstall Window-Eyes if you are upgrading a
Windows 7 machine to Windows 10.
> Rather, you can leave Window-Eyes installed.
> After the upgrade, You must reinstall Window-Eyes in order to upgrade the
audio driver.
> Leaving Window-Eyes installed allows you to preserve your Window-Eyes
settings after upgrading to Windows 10 and then reinstalling Window-Eyes.
>
> Hth,
>
> Rod
>
> Sent from Outlook for Windows
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk  
> On Behalf Of net bat via Talk
> Sent: August 3, 2019 12:24 AM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
> Cc: net bat 
> Subject: Re: Windows Update 1903
>
> no.
> this only applies if you are upgrading from windows 7 to 10.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Tom Fairhurst via Talk
> Sent: Friday, August 02, 2019 9:18 PM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Cc: tfairhu...@kc.rr.com
> Subject: Windows Update 1903
>
> I am upgrading Windows 10 for the first time. I currently have Windows 
> 10 1809. I am being asked to upgrade to version 1903. I have 
> Window-Eyes 9.5.4 on my PC. I want to keep my current programs and 
> settings. I have heard that I must uninstall Window-Eyes first. Is 
> this true? I also currently have JAWS
> 2019  on my PC.
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Windows Update 1903

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

I am upgrading Windows 10 for the first time. I currently have Windows 10
1809. I am being asked to upgrade to version 1903. I have Window-Eyes 9.5.4
on my PC. I want to keep my current programs and settings. I have heard that
I must uninstall Window-Eyes first. Is this true? I also currently have JAWS
2019  on my PC.

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RE: Window eyes issue

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

I just checked and have this as well.

-Original Message-
From: Talk  On Behalf 
Of Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2019 2:48 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: Rod Hutton 
Subject: RE: Window eyes issue

Hi Bernie,

Having checked my system, I have an Apps menu choice named Diagnostics which is 
also the name of the associated Window-Eyes app.
The version I have is 1.2.7.
My installation package of WE 9.5.4 retail included this app.
Perhaps someone on this list has the separate app and can make it available for 
you on DropBox or simply email it to you.
The filename of the Diagnostics app is wediag.wepm.
I do have a separate copy of this app, but it is only version 1.2.5, and I 
think you would be better with the most recent version.
However, if you would like it, I can put it in my DropBox.

All the best,

Rod

Sent from Outlook for Windows

-Original Message-
From: Talk  On 
Behalf Of Bernie Perella via Talk
Sent: July 15, 2019 3:08 PM
To: Rod Hutton via Talk 
Cc: Bernie Perella 
Subject: Re: Window eyes issue

Hi Rod,  I have no problem moving around the WE control panel but under the 
apps menu, I find no diagnostics item.  Not sure what is going on.

On 7/15/2019 2:49 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:
> Hi Bernie,
>
> If you are in the We control panel, you should be able to press Alt in order 
> to open a friendly menu which you can then simply press the arrow keys to 
> move around in.
> Apps is definitely one of the menus.
> Also, another way to do it is that when you have simply opened the WE control 
> panel, Pressing Alt-A will open the Apps menu.
> You can then simply press down arrow several times to find the Diagnostics 
> menu.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Rod
>
> Sent from Outlook for Windows
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk 
> On Behalf Of Bernie Perella via Talk
> Sent: July 15, 2019 2:34 PM
> To: Rod Hutton via Talk 
> Cc: Bernie Perella 
> Subject: Re: Window eyes issue
>
> Hi Rod,  thank you for your help so far.  I tried going to the WE 
> cotrol panel but there is no diagnostics item under the apps menu.
> What do you think?  I have show advanced options checked under the 
> help menu.  Bernie
>
> On 7/15/2019 11:15 AM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:
>> Hi Bernie,
>>
>> In the Window-Eyes control panel, in the Apps menu, you should find an 
>> option called Diagnostics, which is a pull-down menu.
>> In that pull-down, there's an option called Microsoft Office.
>> In that menu, there are a number of options which may help diagnose and 
>> repair the licence for your Office suite.
>> You must have a good licence in order for Office to run out of demo mode.
>> See if this helps.
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>> Rod
>>
>> Sent from Outlook for Windows
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Talk
>> 
>> On Behalf Of Bernie Perella via Talk
>> Sent: July 15, 2019 10:37 AM
>> To: Rod Hutton via Talk 
>> Cc: Bernie Perella 
>> Subject: Re: Window eyes issue
>>
>> Hi, As I mentioned, I have a copy of Window-eyes for office 9.5.1.0.
>> However, trying to run that file gives the message that the 
>> certificate has been revoked.   I checked the certificate and found 
>> that indeed it has expired.  then I found another installation file 
>> for WE 9.2.0.  I did run that file after checking that its 
>> certificate had also expired but it did run and I got WE 9.2 
>> installed.  Then used my we 9.5.4 upgrade file to get WE 9.5.4 
>> installed.  However, I am still having the issue that WE runs only in 
>> demo mode.  Still looking for any suggestions for how to get WE into 
>> normal operation.  Thnks again to those who have responded.  Bernie
>>
>> On 7/15/2019 9:11 AM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:
>>> Hi Loy and Bernie,
>>>
>>> Okay, silly me.  I wasn't paying close attention, and so I overlooked the 
>>> fact that we're talking about a Window-Eyes for Office installation 
>>> problem, not retail.
>>> In that event, perhaps someone has a full installation file for Window-Eyes 
>>> for Office 9.5.4.
>>>
>>> Good luck,
>>>
>>> Rod
>>>
>>> Sent from Outlook for Windows
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Talk
>>> 
>>> On Behalf Of Loy Green via Talk
>>> Sent: July 15, 2019 8:47 AM
>>> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
>>> Cc: Loy Green 
>>> Subject: Re: Window eyes issue
>>>
>>> On the retail version doing an emerengcy uninstall and reinstall would fix 
>>> a lot of problems, not sure if it would be the same with a WE for office 
>>> version.
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RE: Safe Mode

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

I have done this on a Windows 7 computer but not in Windows 10. I turn on my
computer and press F8 repeatedly. I hear a soft click when the hard drive
stops cranking. I know that I'm where I want to be. I press down arrow once
and press Enter. The menu contains several options including Repair and for
Safe Mode. After pressing the Enter key, I am in Safe Mode. I then press
Control+Alt+W and Window-Eyes comes on. HTH

-Original Message-
From: Talk  On
Behalf Of David via Talk
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2019 8:49 AM
To: WE English Mailinglist 
Cc: David 
Subject: Safe Mode

Listers,

I could use some feedback here, please.


Got a program that needs to run in Safe Mode. Being an uninstaller, it
cannot be run in standard mode under Windows. When I try, it just tells me
to click Yes, and it will restart Windows in Safe Mode.


Sure, I clicked Yes, and the computer seemed to restart. At least I heard
the Windows closing sound, and the fan dropped in speed.


After a couple of minutes, nothing for a sound was heard.


Am I mistaken, or should it be possible to set up Window-Eyes to run 
when Windows is in Safe Mode? Has anyone any experience on the matter? 
And, could please someone give me some step-instructions how to do the job?


I sure tried to press the Alt-Ctrl-W combination, but nothing happened. 
Apparently my WE is not properly set up for safe Mode, or something else 
failed.


For your info, am running Win7Pro 64Bit, and latest version of WE.


If not WE can be used in Safe Mode, does anyone know if NVDA, or Jaws 18 
could be an alternative?


Any feedback is warmly welcome. Thanks,


-- 
David

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Re: a Winamp question

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

Correct. I forgot to say that. The keys for JAWS work in the main window, 
too.


-Original Message- 
From: Evan Reese via Talk

Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2019 11:27 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Evan Reese
Subject: Re: a Winamp question

You don't have to be in the equalizer to use those panning keys. I just
checked. You can use them in the main window as well.
Evan


-Original Message- 
From: Larry Higgins via Talk

Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2019 6:16 AM
To: Donald L. Roberts via Talk
Cc: Larry Higgins
Subject: Re: a Winamp question

Donald,


I think you misremembered the command. The command, or key combo is
alt+shift+k.


In order to pan from left to right, at least as far as I know, is to go
to the equalizer using alt+g, then using your left and right arrow keys.
That always works for me



On 4/1/2019 10:24 PM, Donald L. Roberts via Talk wrote:
A few days ago, I posted a message inquiring about making certain that 
when using Winamp I was completely in the center of the right and left 
stereo channels. I got a response suggesting I use control alt k to make 
sure I had things centered. When reflecting on this, I wondered if this 
wasn't a Jaws command rather than a command in a Window-eyes Winamp 
script. If in fact it is a Jaws command, is there a comparable command for 
Window-eyes? Additionally, I really want to pan right to left and left to 
right. How do I do this in Window-eyes? What is the Jaws command to pan?



Thanks.


Don Roberts


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Re: a Winamp question

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

I just tried this. In Window-Eyes, the panning keys are Alt+Shift+K and the 
letters H through ;, with Alt=Shift+K being center. In JAWS, the keys are 
exactly the same, except you press Control+Shift+K in combination with the 
previously-mentioned letters. Hope this help s.


-Original Message- 
From: Donald L. Roberts via Talk

Sent: Monday, April 01, 2019 10:24 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Cc: Donald L. Roberts
Subject: a Winamp question

A few days ago, I posted a message inquiring about making certain that
when using Winamp I was completely in the center of the right and left
stereo channels. I got a response suggesting I use control alt k to make
sure I had things centered. When reflecting on this, I wondered if this
wasn't a Jaws command rather than a command in a Window-eyes Winamp
script. If in fact it is a Jaws command, is there a comparable command
for Window-eyes? Additionally, I really want to pan right to left and
left to right. How do I do this in Window-eyes? What is the Jaws command
to pan?


Thanks.


Don Roberts


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Re: Aps

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

Thanks so much.

-Original Message- 
From: Tom Kingston via Talk

Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 8:25 PM
To: Tom Fairhurst via Talk
Cc: Tom Kingston
Subject: Re: Aps

Tom,
Here's a link to a zip archive of all the apps I leave in my Dropbox.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/akqmqrtapo9o2m6/WineyesApps.zip?dl=1
Hth,
Tom


On 12/18/2018 5:55 PM, Tom Fairhurst via Talk wrote:
I'm late on this one, but I can't find the download ZIP file for all the 
Window-Eyes apps on my computer.I thought I had, butg have apparently lost 
it. I couldn't find it on your web site. If you still have it, please let 
me know. Thanks.


-Original Message- From: Roger A. Behm, President via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 6:48 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Roger A. Behm, President ; rgarre...@comcast.net
Subject: RE: Aps

Hi Window-eyes users,

I have the following zip file on my web page for anyone to download;

window-eyes all apps july 2017.zip

It is on my business web page:

www.adaptiveinformation.org

it is under the link called; blind friendly links

then under the link called; ais downloads

then under the link called: updates.

Thank God Doug is working for Microsoft and improving Narator, and the
company who bought out GW Micro will not be able to buy out MicroSoft!

Regards,
Roger


Adaptive Information Systems Inc.
We Make Technology Accessible to the Vision Impaired and Reading Disabled
Roger A. Behm President
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Janesville WI 53545-1388
Voice: 608-758-0933
Cell: 608-346-7059
Fax: 608-758-7898
Email:
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roger.behm@gmail.coms
Web Pages:
www.adaptiveinformation.org
www.cheeseheadhosting.us

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From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+aistech=ameritech@lists.window-eyes.com]

On Behalf Of rgarrett5--- via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2018 11:23 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Cc: rgarre...@comcast.net
Subject: Aps

Hello Tom et al



If anyone has a copy of thw WE aps, or if it is available at a Dropbox 
site,

please let me know.  Thanks for the info Tom.



Regarding the Office 2016 funky behavior, sometimes, when replying to an
e-mail, the return message is no where to be found on my screen even 
though
it is there.  Also, seems like my verbosity setting goes away too. 
Speaking

only letters rather than a whole word.  Minor but annoying.  Bob Garrett

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Re: Word Advanced Features

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

Thanks for everyone's help. I got it working again.

-Original Message- 
From: net bat via Talk

Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 10:40 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: net bat
Subject: Re: Word Advanced Features

in some instences the app will not run until the associated program is also
running.
with other apps they will run all the time.
is this the only app that is not running? or do all of them say not running?
check that the app status is turned on.




-Original Message- 
From: Tom Fairhurst via Talk

Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:43 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Tom Fairhurst
Subject: Word Advanced Features

If any of you are still out there, I recently discovered that my Word 
Advanced
Features app is not working. I found that the package is installed, but it 
won’t

run. How can I fix this? Thanks.
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Re: Aps

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

I'm late on this one, but I can't find the download ZIP file for all the 
Window-Eyes apps on my computer.I thought I had, butg have apparently lost 
it. I couldn't find it on your web site. If you still have it, please let me 
know. Thanks.


-Original Message- 
From: Roger A. Behm, President via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 6:48 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Roger A. Behm, President ; rgarre...@comcast.net
Subject: RE: Aps

Hi Window-eyes users,

I have the following zip file on my web page for anyone to download;

window-eyes all apps july 2017.zip

It is on my business web page:

www.adaptiveinformation.org

it is under the link called; blind friendly links

then under the link called; ais downloads

then under the link called: updates.

Thank God Doug is working for Microsoft and improving Narator, and the
company who bought out GW Micro will not be able to buy out MicroSoft!

Regards,
Roger


Adaptive Information Systems Inc.
We Make Technology Accessible to the Vision Impaired and Reading Disabled
Roger A. Behm President
1611 Clover Lane
Janesville WI 53545-1388
Voice: 608-758-0933
Cell: 608-346-7059
Fax: 608-758-7898
Email:
aist...@ameritech.net
roger.behm@gmail.coms
Web Pages:
www.adaptiveinformation.org
www.cheeseheadhosting.us

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+aistech=ameritech@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of rgarrett5--- via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2018 11:23 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Cc: rgarre...@comcast.net
Subject: Aps

Hello Tom et al



If anyone has a copy of thw WE aps, or if it is available at a Dropbox site,
please let me know.  Thanks for the info Tom.



Regarding the Office 2016 funky behavior, sometimes, when replying to an
e-mail, the return message is no where to be found on my screen even though
it is there.  Also, seems like my verbosity setting goes away too.  Speaking
only letters rather than a whole word.  Minor but annoying.  Bob Garrett

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Word Advanced Features

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

If any of you are still out there, I recently discovered that my Word Advanced 
Features app is not working. I found that the package is installed, but it 
won’t run. How can I fix this? Thanks.
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Re: Has anyone ever considered using the Apple Mac?

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

I echo many of the points made in other E-mails. I have a Windows Computer 
and N IPhone. I find I can do things on my PC that i can't do on the phone 
vice versa. Of course, I had to learn a new set of commands and jestures. I 
echo the thought that just because Apple has VoiceOver that not all web 
environments are accessible. For example, I love my church, but its web site 
is not the greatest. I would give it a C grade. It is no better with 
VoiceOver. Developers do not need to adhere to the Apple standard. I have 
heard from others that Android is not a cakewalk either.Again, one would 
need to learn a whole new set of commands and jestures. Again, the Android 
user is at the mercy of the app developers and the accessibility folks. As 
one lister indicated, it depends upon your needs and desires. Do some good 
research and give it good thought.


-Original Message- 
From: David via Talk

Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 11:57 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: David
Subject: Re: Has anyone ever considered using the Apple Mac?

Guess you are not lonely on the isle of wishing for more stability, like
in the older days, when comes to electronics. As a matter of fact, many
sighted people feel the same way. All the continious updates to Windows
and software, do affect EVERYONE - not only visually impaired.


As for Apple products, I have never even tried them, so cannot advice
anything on that field. Still, you will want to go through your actual
needs. For my part, one reason why I have never bothered the Apple
products, is that certain of the software I am relying on, only runs
under Windows. Getting a Mac would mean for me to stop using such
software, and the disadvantage thereof seems higher than the gains of a
bit more stability on the computer. Sure, I do know there exists ways of
running a Mac with Windows, but you then still will have to face the
many updates, I guess.


Further, be aware that not all Windows periphals might have drivers for
Mac. Such as your printer. Though Apple might have 24/7 assistance -
over the phone or whatever - you will have to rely on it. A Windows
machine is similar to what your friends and colleagues run, and getting
help with things directly on-site, might prove easier. All depend on
your situation, and your location. If for instance you lived in a place
with no Apple store, and you had to pay for transportation every time
you had to take your device to the store, so as to benefit from the
special service you described, it could soon enough prove to be a
troublesome solution; even if the assistance itself would claim to be
free-of-charge. Compare it with having someone over for a cup of coffee
and let them fix your issue. Again, it depend on what situation you are
in. What need you have for assistance, what software you plan on using,
and what other equipment you already have that might or moight not be
compatible.


Keep in mind, that even Apple products receive updates. Probably not
that often, and perhaps not all that overturning in new layouts and so
forth. But Apple land likely have its own challenges. Sure, they have a
number of voices included in their products. But do these voices fit
you? What about special terms, linked to your profession - will they be
able to pronounce them correctly? Or, will they have optimal
pronunciation dictionary capabilities, enough for you to taylor them to
a bearable level? Otherwise a day in office might prove to be a true
nightmare, sitting there listening to extremely badly pronounced special
terms. I do have one locale voice on my computer here, manufactured by
Vocalizer. It sounds very nice, clear and OK natural. Yet no matter how
hard I try - with whichever screen reader or dictionary - it simply
cannot be made to pronounce certain words correctly. And believe me, it
becomes a real stressful experience over time. It even sometimes
pronounce things such badly, that it causes misunderstandings. Since I
have never used an Apple product, I could not tell what is the case on
their screen reader voices. But you might want to do some research, as
to what voices might be available, even for later purchase and installing.


Many have chosen to use software that no longer is installed all on your
local computer, but rather based on Online services. In some cases that
might solve part of your learning curve, since they might be similarly
working, whether you use Linux, Windows, Apple, or even Android based
equipment. That is what we name cross-platform services. Yet, other
software, even if they run off the net, might be quite different, from
one platform to the other.


One thing to keep in mind, is that the cross-platform services, will be
updated just as often for all platforms. Let's take a thing like Firefox
(and I just picked it out of the air, purely for samplification). If
they decide to update, they will update the cross-platform software.
This means, whether you run Mac, Android or Windows, you still will have
to 

Re: update problem

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

I'm glad you worked it out. I realized I hadn't been getting updates in 
Windows 7 for several months. I fixed my issue by using the update 
troubleshooter. It took a long time, but I finally got things up to date. I 
am getting the new updates asI expect.


-Original Message- 
From: anthony borg via Talk

Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 6:42 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: anthony borg
Subject: RE: update problem

Hi folks
Just to let you know that I have managed to resolve the update problem.
Regards
Anthony

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+anthonyborg001=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: 27 April 2018 14:44
To: anthony borg via Talk 
Cc: Tom Kingston 
Subject: update problem

Hi Anthony,
I don't use Outlook. But I just looked at the keyboard shortcuts page for
Outlook because I thought perhaps Control+Shift+B was in the Window-Eyes
scripts.
https://support.office.com/en-us/article/keyboard-shortcuts-for-outlook-3cde
b221-7ae5-4c1d-8c1d-9e63216c1efd
But Control+Shift+B is the native Outlook shortcut for the address book.
I then loaded NVDA because I still use Window-Eyes. I pressed NVDA+1 for key
describer mode. And Control+Shift+B is not a NVDA key combination.
So you should be able to just press it without pressing the bypass
combination first.
Hth,
Tom


On 4/27/2018 8:24 AM, anthony borg via Talk wrote:

Hi tom
With window-eyes in outlook I used to use the insert key + b, and then
ctrl
+ shift + b, to go to the address book.
But now unfortunately I don't know what I should use instead.
I hope you will understand what I mean.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Regards
Anthony

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+anthonyborg001=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: 26 April 2018 21:08
To: anthony borg via Talk 
Cc: Tom Kingston 
Subject: Re: wexplanation

Hi Anthony,
Yes. NVDA+F2 can be used anywhere because it's an NVDA key, just like
the Window-Eyes bypass key.
Regards,
Tom


On 4/26/2018 2:03 PM, anthony borg via Talk wrote:

HI TOM
Mmany thanks for the info.
Is that can be used in outlook as well please?
Thanks in advance
Anthony

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+anthonyborg001=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: 26 April 2018 16:51
To: anthony borg via Talk 
Cc: Tom Kingston 
Subject: Re: wexplanation

In NVDA it's NVDA key plus F2.
Hth,
Tom


On 4/26/2018 8:24 AM, anthony borg via Talk wrote:

Hi folks
I'm using windows 10, and NVDA as a screen reader.
Since I switched to NVDA when I tried to use the capslock key as an
insert key + b, for bypass. I noticed that it isn't working any more.
So can someone explain to me if the bypass procedure applys for NVDA
as well?
If not, is there another way how to do it with NVDA please?
Thanks in advance
Anthony

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Revo Uninstaller

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

I have heard good comments about this program. I have Windows 7. In my initial 
examination of the program, it seems not to be very screen reader friendly. 
Does anyone have any tips on the program? Where is the help found? I am using 
WE 9.5.4.
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ReVo Uninstaller

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

I have heard several of you rave about this program. However, in my initial 
poking around, it seems not to be very Window-Eyes friendly. It seems quite 
mouse intensive. Have any of you tried it with JAWS? Where is help located? 
Thanks.
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Re: Hello

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

Thanks for your help. I changed the theme back to Windows Classic. I'm not 
sure how it got changed in the first place, but things are the way I want 
them.


-Original Message- 
From: net bat via Talk

Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2018 11:02 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: net bat
Subject: Re: Hello

you have to change the windows scheme.
its either windows 7 basic or classic.

but this will probibly change the disktop colors and icon layouts too if you
have modified them.

-Original Message- 
From: Tom Fairhurst via Talk

Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2018 3:20 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Tom Fairhurst
Subject: Fw: Hello

I also get the task switching message when Alt-Tabbing.

From: Tom Fairhurst
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2018 1:34 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Hello

I am using WE 9.5.4 with Windows 7 64-bit Pro. Suddenly, the desktop has 
come
back into the Alt-Tab order. I know this has been discussed before, but I 
have
forgotten how to remove it from there. A little Google searching shows that 
it’s
necessary to make registry changes. I don’t recall this being necessary. 
Thanks

for any help.
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Fw: Hello

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

I also get the task switching message when Alt-Tabbing.

From: Tom Fairhurst 
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2018 1:34 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: Hello

I am using WE 9.5.4 with Windows 7 64-bit Pro. Suddenly, the desktop has come 
back into the Alt-Tab order. I know this has been discussed before, but I have 
forgotten how to remove it from there. A little Google searching shows that 
it’s necessary to make registry changes. I don’t recall this being necessary. 
Thanks for any help.
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Hello

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I am using WE 9.5.4 with Windows 7 64-bit Pro. Suddenly, the desktop has come 
back into the Alt-Tab order. I know this has been discussed before, but I have 
forgotten how to remove it from there. A little Google searching shows that 
it’s necessary to make registry changes. I don’t recall this being necessary. 
Thanks for any help.
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Re: WE and Goldwave

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

I haven't used Goldwave for a long time, and I still have Windows 7. 
However, I there is a setting under Tools called Control. It is checked. 
That may help.


-Original Message- 
From: Carol and Roger via Talk

Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 6:36 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Carol and Roger
Subject: Re: WE and Goldwave

Hi Rod,

OK, I did that.  There were one or two that did not have a blank
option.  Do I leave them at their original setting?

Next, do I use the Goldwave app or the goldwave enhanced app?

Finally, every time I press a right or left arrow, it does what it
should except it also has extraneous speech, which appears that it is
reading a toolbar and status bar, with some extra stuff in the middle.
I keep my mouse pointer at either the very bottom right or the top
right.  This makes me wonder if there is not some settings I should have
made with Windows 10.  Thanks for your help.

Carol

On 1/14/2018 6:53 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:

Hi Carol,

In addition to recommending that you upgrade the current build of GoldWave 
(since it works just fine for me with the current version of WE), here's 
the solution to your problem:


How to make GoldWave respond better:
GoldWave tends to be sluggish when using a screen reader until one 
deactivates visual effects as follows:

1. On the Options menu, choose Control Properties.
2. Choose the Visual tab using Control-tab, or by tabbing to the tab 
control and activating the desired tab using arrow keys.  Focus tends to 
jump around and so you will have to tab to the tab control again to 
confirm that the proper tab has been reached.
3. In each combo box which contains an option named "blank", set it to 
this option.

4. Choose the Ok button and you're finished.

Best,

Rod

Sent from Outlook for Windows

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[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Carol and Roger via Talk

Sent: January 14, 2018 4:13 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: Carol and Roger 
Subject: WE and Goldwave

Hi Group,

I am trying to use Goldwave with WE.  There is a problem where trying to
navigate through a file using the right or left arrows causes a lot of
hesitation and then, silence before the file advances.  It does not
matter which time increment I use.  I am running version 570, but also
tried version 569.  I also have two different versions of the Goldwave
app.  One is goldwave0.27 and the other is goldwave_enhanced1.0.1.

Can anyone help me out with this problem?  My brother is also using
version 6 something and is having the same problem.
Carol


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Re: Windows 10 creater upgrade and window eyes 9.5.4

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

It sounds like you've gotten the best advice for this. If none of it works, 
you may have entries in your registry that need to be removed. Surely, this 
will not b the case.


-Original Message- 
From: David Crowell via Talk

Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 11:48 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: David Crowell
Subject: Windows 10 creater upgrade and window eyes 9.5.4

Hi I have been trying for several weeks to do the windows 10 upgrade to
creator but am having no luck.  I have had sighted assistance and still can
not get things to install properly.  Here is the issue.
I know wE had to be removed for the installation so that was done.  Then the
download and install of creator was taking place when I got a message saying
WE 9.1 and 9.2 had to be removed from the computer before creator could
install.

This makes no sense at all because in the add remove programs WE 9.5.4 is
the only WE program on this computer.  WE was installed from a disc so I am
at my wits end on how to get creator downloaded and installed.
Any help would be greatly appreciated because I am tired of getting messages
constantly saying windows creator can not be installed and to click this
link to fix the issue.  Yes, this has been done several times but constantly
get the message about older versions of WE.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.


Dave


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ITunes

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

Sorry about the previous message. I got my hands on the wrong keys for the 
subject line. I was frustrated about ITunes not downloading an album I’d 
purchased. I later discovered that the purchase did notgo through. I tried it 
today, andit worked. 

From: Tom Fairhurst 
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2018 12:39 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: OTimes

O jave tje ;atest versopm pf OTimes pm Womdpws 8/ O cam
t dpwm;pad tje ;ast a;bi, O [irchaed. I have bookmarked an Apple article on 
this but it seems a bit fuzzy. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks.
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McAfee

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

Thanks for everyone’s help. No, I didn’t delete any PROGDATA  folders. I just 
deleted the McAfee folder in one of them. Many of the antivirus programs 
require one to use a file from their web site to remove them completely. I 
rememver having to do this with Norton because even though I wasn’t running it, 
there were components in my system. They required a captcha so I needede 
sighted assistance to do it. I was able to remove Essett successfully before 
getting Vipre. Apparently, I had received some promotional material from 
McAffee, but the program was not in Programs and Features. I chose an 
aagressive but scarry way to remove it, but I have had no ill  since and it has 
not reappeared.effects
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OTimes

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O jave tje ;atest versopm pf OTimes pm Womdpws 8/ O cam
t dpwm;pad tje ;ast a;bi, O [irchaed. I have bookmarked an Apple article on 
this but it seems a bit fuzzy. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks.
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McAfee

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

I solved my problem. Aparently, Mcfee invaded my computer on December 15, 2017. 
I don’t know exactly hw. I found two folders in my programData and 
programFiles86 directories with that date on them. I removed the folders. 
Perhaps it came along with a download of another program of which I was not 
aware. Thanks.
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McAffee Web Advisor

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

Have any of you run into this nasty pest? It wouldn’t be bad if it were 
accessible. In my experience with JAWS and NVDA, it is inaccessible. It is a 
little more so with Window-Eyes. However since I already am running VIPRE, I 
don’t need another antivirus program causing problems. I have removede 4 
registry entries. Thoughts?
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Re: Stop Windows from Saying "Checked" in Many List Views in Windows 7

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

Thanks for your help.

-Original Message- 
From: Carol and Roger via Talk

Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2017 9:37 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Carol and Roger
Subject: Re: Stop Windows from Saying "Checked" in Many List Views in 
Windows 7


Hi Tom,

I don't know if this will help, but try the following:

Open Windows Explorer
Go to tools, folder options
shift tab to general and right arrow to view
tab until you get to advanced
Press the letter u to check or unckeck
selected items.  You want this off.
tab to the ok button and press enter.

This should take away your checkboxes for selected items.

Merry Christmas!

Carol


On 12/23/2017 10:15 AM, Tom Fairhurst via Talk wrote:
When I am in Windows Media Player, every song I move to says “checked.” 
This keeps me from knowing which song is playing unless I recognize it. 
Windows also does this in Advanced Options of Control Panel under the 
Advanced tab.
Every item says “checked.” I know there is a way to do this, but I 
forgotten how. Thanks for amy help.

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Windows Live Mail

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

Why does Windows Live Mail refuse to send my message, even though I have a 
legitimate  contact category in the “To” field? I know the number of contacts 
in the list is not too high because sometimes, it works. I have checked to be 
sure no stray characters have gotten in. I am using Windows 7.
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Stop Windows from Saying "Checked" in Many List Views in Windows 7

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

When I am in Windows Media Player, every song I move to says “checked.” This 
keeps me from knowing which song is playing unless I recognize it. Windows also 
does this in Advanced Options of Control Panel under the Advanced tab. 
Every item says “checked.” I know there is a way to do this, but I forgotten 
how. Thanks for amy help.
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Re: Getting Help in Word 2016

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

Thanks so much.

-Original Message- 
From: Rod Hutton via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 9:16 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Rod Hutton
Subject: RE: Getting Help in Word 2016

Hi Tom,

If you're using Window-Eyes, go to Verbosity, expand it, go to Office, 
expand it, go to Word, expand it, and arrow down through the options to 
Misc.
Tab to the first option, which is called "Speak autocorrect" and I have 
turned off this one, and the third one is called "Speak smart tags", and I 
turned this one off as well, and I don't get bugged.

Please remember to save your settings with Ctrl-S.

Best,

Rod

-Original Message-
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Of Tom Fairhurst via Talk

Sent: December 19, 2017 4:57 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: Tom Fairhurst <tfairhu...@kc.rr.com>
Subject: Getting Help in Word 2016

I am trying to get rid of the nagging request to undo auto acctions in a 
document. I can’t seem to get help is 2016. What must I do?

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Getting Help in Word 2016

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

I am trying to get rid of the nagging request to undo auto acctions in a 
document. I can’t seem to get help is 2016. What must I do?
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DVD Ripping

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Does anyone know of good DVD ripping software? I am using Windows 7.
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Re: Can't Access CD/DVD Drive inWindows Explorer

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

The work-around works. It's just odd that I can't press Enter on the drive 
letter any more. Oh well, I can work with it.


-Original Message- 
From: Carol and Roger via Talk

Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 8:52 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Carol and Roger
Subject: Re: Can't Access CD/DVD Drive inWindows Explorer

Hi Tom,

You might try pressing the shift key with the context key to bring up
more options.  They, see if you can find something like explore files or
possibly press enter on the open link.  If the cd you are trying to open
is an audio cd, you will only see .cda files, and they will not tell you
much at all.

Carol


On 12/19/2017 9:09 AM, Tom Fairhurst via Talk wrote:
I am using Windows 7 64-Bit Pro. Files will play and execute on the drive. 
However, when I try to go into Windows Explorer, I get the message that 
Windows can’t access the file and that I may not have the permissions 
necessary. While I haven’t done this for a while, I am sure it worked in 
the past. How can I fix this?>

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Can't Access CD/DVD Drive inWindows Explorer

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

I am using Windows 7 64-Bit Pro. Files will play and execute on the drive. 
However, when I try to go into Windows Explorer, I get the message that Windows 
can’t access the file and that I may not have the permissions necessary. While 
I haven’t done this for a while, I am sure it worked in the past. How can I fix 
this?>
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Re: saving documents in Office 365

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

The easiest way I have found is to press F12. After it is pressed, you will 
be placed in a dialog with a suggested file name. You can edit this to your 
liking. Press Shift+Tab, and you should be in a list of folders. Arrow to 
the one you desire and press
Enter. Tab till you reach the file name and press Enter. Your file 
should be saved in the desired folder. Note that you should be le to 
navigate between folders and/or other locations on your computer in Windows 
Explorer.


-Original Message- 
From: CJ MAY via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 1:29 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' ; drlineber...@embarqmail.com
Cc: CJ MAY
Subject: RE: saving documents in Office 365

We have just installed Office 365. How do I save a document to a specified
folder?
Alison

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From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+chrisalismay=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Russ Kiehne via Talk
Sent: 05 December 2017 15:00
To: drlineber...@embarqmail.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Cc: Russ Kiehne 
Subject: Re: jaws for beginners

Go to Gwmicro.com and you'll find:
To help with the transition to JAWS, we have created some tutorials to get
you started. The tutorials are available in two formats, audio and Microsoft
Word

-Original Message-
From: Rebecca Lineberger via Talk
Sent: Monday, December 4, 2017 3:30 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Rebecca Lineberger
Subject: RE: jaws for beginners

Alison, the read to end command, or say all, is insert-down arrow.  This can
be either the down arrow of the T-arrow keys or the 2 on your numpad.
The read current line is the insert key and the up arrow, again, either the
up arrow of the T arrow keys or the 8 on your numpad.
Here's the link to the premium voices
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Downloads/Synthesizers
You should have been able to set verbosity level in the startup wizard, if I
remember correctly But you can get it in several other ways.
Press insert-v to bring up the  quick settings menu.  Arrow down to User
verbosity Or type Verbosity in the search edit box.  The default is
beginner.  Press the spacebar to cycle through the choices.
If you press tab, JAWS will say:
This option controls the Verbosity, or amount of information, spoken by
JAWS.
The level settings are Beginner, Intermediate, and Advanced.
To customize what JAWS speaks for each level, see the Verbosity Options
dialog in Settings Center. The default setting is Beginner.
Tab to ok and press enter.
There are other things in that list, such as punctuation you can change too.
Check out the training materials in the JAWS help menu.
HTH.
Rebecca
-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Alison May via Talk
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 5:42 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Alison May
Subject: Re: jaws for beginners

Having planned to remain a window-eyes user for the the foreseeable future,
I am ill-prepared for the unexpected demise of my trusty computer and I have
made the sad and reluctant decision to load jaws on my new computer. Could
someone help me get started by telling me how to reduce its verbosity and
where I can find alternative voices - any recommendations?  What is the read
to end command please?  Enough for starters!

Sent from my iPhone by Alison may
0777 315 8181


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Re: What is a KNFB Reader?

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

It will read the label. However, you may need to reposition the can to get 
allo the contents, and take another picture.
The description is not perfect, but you will at least have an idea of what 
is in the can.


-Original Message- 
From: Norene Trappa via Talk

Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 4:46 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Norene Trappa
Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader?

Hi,
Just a little question.  Can the knfb reader read a label on a can of soup,
just as an example?  I have been told yes as well as no.  Would really
appreciate a straight answer on this.  Thanks so much.

Norene



-Original Message- 
From: Tom Kingston via Talk

Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 9:35 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Tom Kingston
Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader?

Yes. I got a couple stands. One is a little tripod with a spring loaded
slide clamp to hold the phone. The other is a laminated cardboard box
that was originally designed for folks needing to scan documents while
traveling on business. It folds up flat and when you expand it magnets
hold it together. So you sit the phone on top with the camera looking
through a peep whole and put what you want to scan in the box. There's
two models. One with a little set of LED lights inside and the other
without. It can use a battery or AC power. And it wasn't expensive. 29
or 39 bucks. something like that.
I can't remember the name of it. But I'll look around to see if I kept
any notes on it.
I don't use either much because I don't have the need to scan books or
long documents. But they work good.
Regards,
Tom


On 11/23/2017 9:37 AM, Russ Kiehne wrote:
Did you get a stand?  I hear using a stand makes it a lot easier when 
scanning a book etc.


-Original Message- From: Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 5:00 PM
To: Josh Kennedy via Talk
Cc: Tom Kingston
Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader?

Actually I seldom use the field of view report. It was fine when I first
got the app. But once I got used to reasonable placement of the phone
for the picture I stopped using it. Then again, I'm usually not using it
for critical reading where I need the absolute best. In that situation I
would use it. So it's not totally necessary. Just my opinion.
regards,
Tom


On 11/22/2017 7:27 PM, Josh Kennedy via Talk wrote:

Ok here is how you use knfb reader this is just an example.
Imagine you are a student in college. You have some paper handouts that 
you got from class that you cannot read, you also have  a print textbook. 
So how do you read it? First you unlock your android phone or your 
iPhone. Then you go into the knnfb reader app. And then you hold the 
phone a foot above the page. And then you press the field of view report 
button first making sure you are pointing the camera on the bottom of the 
phone down towards the page. Then you hit field of view report button you 
double tap it on the phone’s touch screen. You hear your phone say 
outloud with its screen reader:


All four corners of the page are visible.

Then holding the phone as steady as you can, you double tap the take 
picture button. The phone snaps a photo of the page, does OCR on the 
text, and reads the text out loud to you. And you can scan whole entire 
books very very fast with just the 8mp camera on your smartphone.



Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Robert Ringwald via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 19:18
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Robert Ringwald
Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader?

But what does it do?



-Original Message-
From: Josh Kennedy via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 4:05 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Josh Kennedy
Subject: RE: What is a KNFB Reader?

I have knfb reader on my android phone and it works great.


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 16:03
To: Josh Kennedy via Talk
Cc: Tom Kingston
Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader?

And it's a fabulous OCR which is how it started. I have it on my iPhone
and can read just about anything imaginable. Think beyond a document
reader. I've read food boxes, cans, button labels and serial numbers on
gadgets, etc. It also works pretty good when you have to read your
computer screen or any other kind of display.
There's also a free one from Microsoft called seeing AI. It's useful but
doesn't compare to KNFB when it comes right down to it.
Regards,
Tom


On 11/22/2017 2:01 PM, Josh Kennedy via Talk wrote:

Yes you can read pdfs with it. It works on iPhone and android and on
windows10 devices.


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Robert Ringwald via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 13:12
To: Talk
Cc: Robert Ringwald
Subject: What is a KNFB Reader?

I see it is on sale.

Can you read PDFs with it?





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Re: Program to reset (if necessary( the Windows screen reader flag.

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

I am late on this thread, but thanks, Tom. This is valuable.

-Original Message- 
From: Tom Kingston via Talk

Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 10:31 AM
To: Rod Hutton via Talk
Cc: Tom Kingston
Subject: Re: Program to reset (if necessary( the Windows screen reader flag.

Hey Rod,
Well, the more I fiddle with NVDA and JAWS the more I think I'll be
praying for the second coming. Either will solve the problem.
Tom


On 11/13/2017 9:44 AM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:

Hi Tom

The resurrection of Window-Eyes:
hmm, sounds very biblical, or the title of a good book. (smile)
Thanks for the software to reset the flag:
very ingenious, and thoughtful to produce it for us.

Take care,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk

Sent: November 13, 2017 8:33 AM
To: john schwery via Talk 
Cc: Tom Kingston 
Subject: Re: Program to reset (if necessary( the Windows screen reader 
flag.


Thanks, John. Glad to help.
Now if I could only write the resurrection of Window-Eyes. (smile)
Tom


On 11/13/2017 6:08 AM, john schwery via Talk wrote:

Tom, thanks.  Good work.

At 08:46 PM 11/12/2017, you wrote:

* About the Screen Reader Check program * This program is copyright
2017 Tom Kingston ­ all rights reserved. Seee the included License.txt
file for details. Email: tom.kings...@charter.net Windows has an
internal setting that tells it if a screen reader is running. Our
screen readers turn this on when we load them and off when we close
them. Windows uses it to make some changes that help our screen
readers work better. It is also available for other programs to check
when they launch and make themselves more accessible as well. The
problem comes into play when something goes wrong with our screen
reader, such as it stops talking but it’s not actually hung or
crashed, which is the case for me when Internet Explorer throws an
error. In my case I’m running Window-Eyes. So I load NVDA to see
what’s going on. Sometimes this alone reopens the flow of speech
from Window-Eyes. If not closing the error message with NVDA always
brings Window-Eyes back to life. My understanding is that the same
thing happens with JAWS. Next I unload NVDA and continue on my merry
way. But closing NVDA turns off the screen reader setting in Windows
even though I’m still running a screen reader. This is not the fault
of NVDA or exclusive to it. Any screen reader will do the same. This
is where this program comes into play. In order to turn the screen
reader setting back on we would have to unload our screen reader and
reload it. And in order to do that and insure the best result we would
have to close all open programs, close our screen reader, reload it,
and then reopen those programs and do whatever is necessary, e.g. load
files, to get back to work. This is because our screen readers need to
see some programs load in order to configure themselves to work
correctly with those programs. The Screen Reader Check program allows
you to reset the screen reader setting without having to close and
reopen your programs and screen reader. You can run this program and
it will first check to see if the screen reader setting is on or off.
If it’s on the program will simply notify you of this and close when
you press the Ok button. If not it will attempt to turn the screen
reader setting back on and then broadcast a system message to tell all
open windows that a screen reader is running. It will then notify you
that this was done and close when you press the Ok button. The
ScreenReaderCheck.zip file will extract a ScreenReaderCheck folder.
That folder includes License.txt, ReadMe.txt (this file), and SRC.exe.
Simply unzip it into a folder of your choice. You may then wish to
place SRC.exe in a more convenient place for quicker access. I gave
the program a short name to make it easy to run from the run dialog.
Just press Windows+R and enter drive:\path\src.exe. for example, if
you place it in the root of your C-drive you would just enter
C:\SRC.exe. You may also wish to open the context menu (Application
key or Shift+F10) on SRC.exe in the folder you extracted it to and use
“Send to” to send a shortcut to your desktop. Within the
properties of that shortcut file, accessed through the context menu or
Alt-Enter, you can assign a shortcut hot key to it. If you have any
comments or inquiries please email me at tom.kings...@charter.net
Below is a link to the ScreenReaderCheck.zip file. After downloading
the file select it, open the context menu, P Properties, tab to the
Unblock check box and check it. This will prevent you from having to
go through the Windows security dialog in order to run SRC.exe.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ugpweuw5igmmg8q/ScreenReaderCheck.zip?dl=1
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Re: Norton Security

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

In my experience, Norton has not been accessible for years. It came on my 
last computer. Even though I never used it,it was on my machine as a trial. 
I had to get sighted help to remove it because a captcha was involved. Some 
antivirus programs are particularly hard to removed. With Norton, this is 
true even if you use their removal tool.


-Original Message- 
From: Ivan Cribb via Talk

Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2017 4:03 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Ivan Cribb
Subject: Norton Security

I downloaded Norton Security with another program some time ago assuming I
would be able to get ridof it later.  I don't use Norton Securitas I am
happy with Windows Essentials.Despite my best efforts I can't get rid of NS.
It irritates me no end with NS siting there. Can anyone suggest a method  of
lgetting rid of NS. I have already tried several times to uninstall it from
Programs and Features.

Ivan

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Favorites in IE 11

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

I just discovered today that my favorites won’t display propperly in IE 11 
using the latest version ofWindow-Eyes. I have never had this problem before. 
How can I refresh them. For those of you who are transitioning to JAWS, they 
won’t display there either. I am using Window 7 64-bit Pro. 
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Re: question about re installing wineyes

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

Rod, could you please send me the link to your List? I have misplaced it.

-Original Message- 
From: Rod Hutton via Talk

Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 11:47 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Rod Hutton
Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes

Hi Russ and all,

As memory serves, you do have to enter the correct name when you install 
Window-Eyes.
Regardless whether I'm right about that point, as much as this thread seems 
to entertain the idea of sharing retail copies of Window-Eyes, I think 
you'll run into copyright infringement if you do this.


Hth,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf 
Of Russ Kiehne via Talk

Sent: September 9, 2017 9:23 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: Russ Kiehne 
Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

It's my understanding it doesn't matter what name you put in, it's the
serial number that matters.

-Original Message- 
From: Carol and Roger via Talk

Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 10:38 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Carol and Roger
Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

Only sort of.  The serial number is assigned to a specific person, so
the name and any other information that is asked for during installation
would need to be the same for both people. So, if you gave me your copy
and did not tell me your information, your copy, on my PC would still be
a demo copy.


On 9/8/2017 12:44 PM, brice Mijares via Talk wrote:

If I sent someone a copy of my last installation copy, that person would
still need an activation code or it would go into demo mode. Isn't this
correct?

On 9/8/2017 8:57 AM, Rod Hutton via Talk]

 wrote:

Hi Loy,

Sorry, I wasn't clear.  I was referring to why you thought it would be
okay for someone to use someone else's copy of WE simply because it was
no longer being developed.
I would think it is still the property of VFO, and, therefore,
infringement of copyright to let someone else use it.

Thanks,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Loy via Talk
Sent: September 8, 2017 11:37 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: Loy 
Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

If you are in the US, you never had to activate WE. I think in some
countries you had to have a dongle.
   - Original Message -
   From: Rod Hutton via Talk
   To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
   Cc: Rod Hutton
   Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 11:01 AM
   Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes


   Hi Loy,

   If you truly know this, then, that's fine.
   I don't feel as certain about this as you seem to be.
   If you can explain this a bit, I'd appreciate it.

   Best,

   Rod

   -Original Message-
   From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Loy via Talk
   Sent: September 8, 2017 10:40 AM
   To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
   Cc: Loy 
   Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

   There has never been an online activation. I doubt that you can get a
downloadable copy from VFO now, but if you can get a copy from someone
else then you could install it. Being it is no longer being sold or
developed then using some one else's copy would not matter.
 - Original Message -
 From: Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk
 To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
 Cc: Micallef Michael at FITA
 Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 10:24 AM
 Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes


 And then after installation of WE how about the online activation?

 -Original Message-
 From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+michael.micallef=gov...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of aad leeflang via Talk
 Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 12:07 PM
 To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
 Cc: aad leeflang
 Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

 ok thanks
 i used window eyes 9.4 on my old pc but i did not get a cd newer
than 9.0.
 i downloadee most versions.
 but how do i get a more acurate version though?
 or is there a way to copy the files from my old pc to my new pc.
 i guess not.
 aad
 On Fri, 8 Sep 2017 09:46:16 +
 Rod Hutton via Talk  wrote:

 > Hi Aad,
 >
 > In order to install Window-Eyes for Windows 10, you require at
least version 9.2.
 >
 > Hth,
 >
 > Rod
 >
 > -Original Message-
 > From: Talk
 > [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On
 > Behalf Of aad leeflang via Talk
 > Sent: September 8, 2017 5:15 AM
 > To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
 > Cc: aad leeflang 
 > Subject: question about 

Re: AVG question

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

When I tried AVG, I realized I may need to deal with the Zen screen. At that 
time, you could open a screen from the desktop icon which was useable. 
However, I couldn't use many of the functions from the system tray because 
they were part of the Zen screen.It sounds like now that the worthless Zen 
screen has become the entire focus of the program. I was only using a trial 
version of the program. I decided to remove it from my computer. I now use 
Vipre. Sorry I can't be of more help.


-Original Message- 
From: Tony C via Talk

Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 10:31 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Tony C
Subject: AVG question

Hi, My AVG just updated two days ago, and now neither Jaws or Window Eyets 
reads anything on the screen when I open AVG. My sighted GF says everything 
is there but neither screen reader sees ing


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Re: PDF question

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

 Thanks for the tip.

-Original Message- 
From: Brenda via Talk

Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 9:39 AM
To: Van Lant, Robin via Talk
Cc: Brenda
Subject: Re: PDF question

Hi List,
I just played a little with Acrobat and changed the setting tio show
gaps between pages.  then I set another setting in the view section to
allow scrolling but changed it back to single page view.

now cntrl-page up/down works.  Not sure if the show gaps between
settings did the trick, but at least cntrl page p/down now works.

brenda

On 8/25/2017 1:33 PM, Van Lant, Robin via Talk wrote:
If I press just page up and down, I can tell that the speech is moving 
forward or backward by small leaps.  Control and Page Up and Down are not 
make the speech jump ahead, just the picture on the screen.  I'm in a 22 
page document and trying to jump ahead mid-way through. Ugh. I really 
thought that keystroke you referenced below used to work, but it's not 
working now.





-Original Message-
From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+robin_van_lant=key@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk

Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 6:34 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Rod Hutton
Subject: RE: PDF question

Hi Robin,

Ctrl-PgDn and Ctrl-PgUp will advanced to the next and previous pages, 
respectively.


Best,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Talk

Sent: August 24, 2017 6:34 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: Van Lant, Robin 
Subject: PDF question

Please remind me, because I'm driving myself crazy with reading a 
multi-page document in Adobe.   I have Adobe set for single page display. 
If I am reading a page and want to move to the next page, I can hit alt 
right arrow or the page down and I can tell it's visually changing on the 
screen, but Window Eyes 9.4 is not advancing where speech focus is 
located.  What is the trick?





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Re: QUERY

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

I have been following this thread and strongly agree. I had to do System 
Restore twice with sighted help to recover Windows. I have used it myself to 
get rid of programs that ci couldn't remove with Programs and Features. One 
would certainly not use System Restore if there is a risk of restoring a 
virus. You should be careful in using it. It can be used without sighted 
assistance when run normally. If you are concerned about security updates, 
these usually can be reapplied easily since Windows or your security program 
will likely prompt you to reinstall them after the System Restore is 
complete.


-Original Message- 
From: anthony borg via Talk

Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 3:33 PM
To: anthony borg
Subject: QUERY

HI CHRIS

I CAN UNDERSTAND YOUR EXPLANATION AND HOW RESKI IT MIGHT BE,



INFACT THAT'S WHAT I DID, I DOWNLOADED IT FROM THE INTERNET AND REINSTALLED
IT.



THE ONLY REASON  THAT I WANTED TO LEARN HOW TO DO SYSTEM RESTORE IS IF IN
CASE I REPEAT THE SAME MISTAKE, BUT I HAVE TO BE VERY SURE HOW TO DO IT.



THAT'S WHY I ASKED FOR A GOOD INSTRUCTIONS OF THE PROCEDURE.

MANY THANKS FOR YOUR HELP,



ALL THE BEST

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Re: Jaws migration along with the msa

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

I could be wrong here, but I don't recall any discount for SMA's. In my 
case, I have 2 SMA's, but after that, I believe they are regular price.


-Original Message- 
From: Paulette Vickery via Talk

Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2017 4:25 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: Jaws migration along with the msa

Hi all,



I have received my Jaws key, that isn't the problem. However, I thought we
were supposed to get a discount for a msa. When I asked about that
yesterday, even though the deal is still in effect, the woman I spoke with
said there is no deas for the msa. Am I incorrect about a less expensive msa
for WE users? If there is supposed to be a discount, is there someone in
particular with whom I should speak? Thanks for your help.



Paulette

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Re: DECtalk USB Question

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

I still have a Tripple Talk USB, but don't use it much. Most software 
synthesizers have much better voice quality. I have it mainly in case my 
Sound Card breaks down. At least, I could still perform some computer tasks 
till the sound card issue gets fixed.


-Original Message- 
From: Joseph Norton via Talk

Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2017 11:18 AM
To: 'Russ Kiehne' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: DECtalk USB Question

I wonder if FS has really worried about external synths for a while now.
They certainly do not support as many as they used to.  Now that a lot of
folks use software speech, external speech devices are probably not a
priority for them.  Window-Eyes sure supported a lot more external synths
that JAWS does now.



-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+joseph.norton=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 4, 2017 9:11 AM
To: Rod Hutton ; Tony C ;
Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: DECtalk USB Question


From day one, I've always plugged my tripletalk usb directly into a usb

port.  I never had this problem with window eyes.  It seems to be a jaws
issue.

-Original Message-
From: Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Monday, July 3, 2017 8:12 AM
To: Tony C ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: DECtalk USB Question

Hi Russ,

I'm curious whether you have plugged your unit directly into a PC USB port
rather than a USB hub, powered or unpowered.
As for hubs, I always use those which come with their own power adaptor.

Hth,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Tony C via Talk
Sent: July 3, 2017 10:00 AM
To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: Re: DECtalk USB Question

Hi, There has been and still is an issue with some sound card and Window
that allow the drivers to drop out. I was told by a Microsoft person a while
back that there are some know foucus issues in Windows. They are slowly
being corrected. You may go to the Manufacture website for you sound card
and make sure you have the most up-to-date sound drivers for your device.
HTH

-Original Message-
From: Russ Kiehne via Talk
Sent: Monday, July 3, 2017 8:12 AM
To: Pastor Gil Pries ; Window-Eyes Discussion List ; t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Re: DECtalk USB Question

I have the same problem you are having with your dectalk usb.  I'm using a
tripletalk usb and It stops speaking after a few seconds when using alt+down
arrow (the jaws say all command) on web pages or reading a html document.
Email Mike Cozzolino,m...@axsol.com at Access Solutions.

-Original Message-
From: Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
Sent: Sunday, July 2, 2017 5:17 PM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: DECtalk USB Question

Hi,

I just got my DECtalk USB synthesizer.

I've noticed 2 things going on with it.

First, when I use the say-all command on the weatherunderground web page, it
reads for a while then stops, and I have to restart Jaws.

The second thing is that Jaws isn't keeping my changes to my voice profile
for the DECtalk USB.

Has anybody encountered these problems and if so, what did you do to solve
them.

Thanks,



Pastor Gil

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Re: Help Needed to Restore Sub-folders in a Folder to theDefaultLayout

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

Try hitting Alt-V and then the letter O. You should be able to make 
additional changes there. I do this for Windows 7.


-Original Message- 
From: peter Chin via Talk

Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 9:42 PM
To: fender...@sbcglobal.net ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Help Needed to Restore Sub-folders in a Folder to 
theDefaultLayout


Hello,

Thanks for your reply. I had already tried to do what you suggested but I
found that I couldn't check or uncheck any of the menu items. By the way,
the "None" item was already checked as well as the "Date Created" and the
"Date modified" but I couldn't make any changes. Any other suggestions,
please.

-Original Message- 
From: via Talk

Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 6:55 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Help Needed to Restore Sub-folders in a Folder to the
DefaultLayout

Hi, Peter.

It sounds like your user folders are grouped by date. While in that folder
view, press Alt-V for view and down arrow to the group by menu option. Press
enter and a sub menu should open, giving you options like name, date, size,
and maybe some other options. I'll bet the date option is checked. All you
have to do is keep down arrowing to the none option and press Enter.

That should straighten things out.
Lou N.

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+fenderwal=sbcglobal@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of peter Chin via Talk
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 6:09 AM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Help Needed to Restore Sub-folders in a Folder to the Default
Layout

Hello List,

I tried to send this message to the list but it didn't appear to have
reached it so I am sending it again.

I would like some help from anyone who is still using Windows 8.1 and
Window-Eyes.
I was fooling around in one of my folders in my User folder and somehow I

changed the way the subfolders are readout by my Window-Eyes 9.5.4. I have

managed to get the supfolders back into list view as I like it but now

Window-Eyes reads extraneous info such as "earlier this year" or "Last

week". How do I stop W-E from reading that info?


I am using Windows 8.1 with the free version of W-E.

 Help would be much appreciated.
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Vipre

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

Is there a way to see the progres of a scan? I am using Windows 7 64-bit Pro 
with WE 9.5.4 with the latest trial version of Vipre. There is one tab that I 
can’t seem to reclass in order to read it. By the way, JAWS 18 won’t read it 
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Vipper

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

I am looking at Vipper Antivirus or Security. IN looking at their home page, I 
can’t seem to find the way to even download a free trial. I only see a place 
for my E-mail Address and a submit button. When I press the “"Buy Not button, I 
see a price listed for $54, but I’m not sure if this includes Advanced Security 
or just the antivirus. All help would be appreciated.
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Re: Reciprocal Idea

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

Okay, they didn't put a gun to our heads. They just spat in our faces and 
said that Window-Eyes wouldn't be developed or sold any more. What is that 
supposed to mean? It means that eventually, we will need to look for another 
screen reader. Thankfully, we have some time to figure things out. I will 
keep Window-Eyes until it works no more. I will also continue to learn about 
JAWS. I will certainly have questions, and I appreciate everyone's help. 
Yes, I have NVDA on my computer, too, and it will stay there.


-Original Message- 
From: Chris Skarstad via Talk

Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 1:13 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Re: Reciprocal Idea

Just to add to this, no one held a gun to your guys heads and made you
install jaws.  some people are seriously under the impression that
simply because Window-eyes is no longer being developed that there's
some kind of unwritten rule that states that they have to remove it from
their machine.
I'm still running Window-eyes and it works great.  It's just no longer
being updated.  I also have jaws 18 installed here too, because hey,
it's free for me, why not.


On 6/10/2017 2:06 PM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote:

Yeah but that was different, we like Window-eyes.

On 6/10/2017 1:41 PM, Dennis Long via Talk wrote:
Why it's true people need to realize that.  You had to learn  new 
keyboard

commands when you bought window eyes.

-Original Message-
From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]

On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 1:12 PM
To: Neville; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Reciprocal Idea

You really didn't need to send this message.  Pam.

-Original Message-
From: Neville via Talk
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 9:34 PM
To: Matthew Chao via Talk
Subject: Re: Reciprocal Idea

Hi,
Window-eyes is dead so just get on with life and learn Jaws or NVDA.

Neville


On 9/06/2017 10:22 PM, Matthew Chao via Talk wrote:

Hi, Folks.  Remember how Window-Eyes had a special keyboard layout for
JAWS defectors?  Why couldn't the folks at VFO do the same for us?
Besides, we had to go to JAWS somewhat kicking and screaming; it
wasn't our choice.  So, how about it, folks?  What do you
think?--Matthew Chao

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Re: hotkey for reading the status line

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

I'll confess. I was in Window-Eyes when I first read your E-mail. I am now 
in JAWS. As far as I can determine JAWS has no equivalent keystroke. 
However, I have found 3 that will probably give you the information you 
desire. Insert+End reads the top line of the window. Insert+PageDown reads 
the bottom line of the window. Alt+Delete will read the position of the 
active cursor. Hope this helps.


-Original Message- 
From: BK via Talk

Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 7:24 PM
To: AI Squared
Subject: hotkey for reading the status line

Hello, does anyone know what the jaws hotkey is to read the status line
in a program? For example, in wineyes it is control insert s, but I
can't find what it is in jaws. Thanks for any help.

Butch
--
BK 

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Re: Announcement: Brian Hartgen Training Course, Over Easy:The Switch from window-Eyes to JAWS! Being Held Online6/1/17 at 2pm Eastern, 7pm UK Time

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

I agree. I think people areacting because they are mad about the fate of 
Window-Eyes, not just the cost of the tutorial. Furthermore, we don't have 
any proof that Mr. Hartgen had anything to do with the demise of 
Window-Eyes. While I am not familiar with his tutorials, I have purchased 
others in the past. I admit, some I have found very helpful and others not 
so much. While I don't intend to purchase one at this time, I think the 
tutorial should be evaluated on its own merits.


-Original Message- 
From: CJ  MAY via Talk

Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 3:40 AM
To: 'Scott Wheat' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Announcement: Brian Hartgen Training Course,Over Easy:The 
Switch from window-Eyes to JAWS! Being Held Online6/1/17 at 2pm Eastern, 7pm 
UK Time


I really don't understand people's annoyance at having to purchase a
tutorial. There is free material already available, which they can use, but
why shouldn't someone be recompensed for their time and effort in creating a
tutorial. When I purchased my Iphone, I didn't think twice about purchasing
Anna Dresner's tutorial and it was money really worth spending.

In the past I have used some of Brian Hartgen's tutorials and they were
always of a high standard.

There is free learning materials available for those who don't want to
splash out extra money but they really can't expect people to undertake such
a big piece of work and receive no reward.



Alison



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Re: how do you move a file with w/e

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I have never actualy tried to move a file. What I do is this. I highlight 
the file or files I want to move using the cursor keys. I then press 
CONTROL+C to copy the material to the clipboard. I then move to the 
directory in which I wish to place the file or files. I then paste them 
there with CONTROL+V. Next, I go back to the directory where the original 
file is and delete it. This puts the file in the Recycle Bin. I know there 
is a way to actually move a file, but at least this way, I am assured that 
my file is not lost or destroyed somewhere in the process. If worse comes to 
worse, I can restore the file from the recycle bin. Of course, when I am 
totally satisfied, I empty the Recycle Bin. Note that these are all Windows 
keystroke that should work with any screen reader.


-Original Message- 
From: mcleod stinnett via Talk

Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 6:25 AM
To: talk
Subject: how do you move a file with w/e

I haven't moved a file since I used outspoken screen reader. I want to
move a file from one directory to another and I need to know how to do
that with latest w/e, thanks
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Re: move to jaws

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

No WindowEyes is not a disease we must get rid of. I will keep both screen 
readers as long as I can. Window-Eyes works much better with Winamp and 
Windows Live Mail. Additionally with JAWS, I could not copy text from the 
internet into Windows Explorer to name a file or folder. I can do so with 
Window-Eyes.


-Original Message- 
From: Butch Bussen via Talk

Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 2:25 PM
To: Don H ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: move to jaws

Window-eyes isn't some disease we all have to get rid of.  I plan to use
it for as much as I can for as long as it works.  If necessary, I'll
switch to nvda.
73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.


On Sun, 28 May 2017, Don H via Talk wrote:

I have found that a great combination to have is NVDA and Jaws.  Since 
getting my Jaws activation code I have not used Window Eyes at all.  For 
me NVDA is easier to learn than Jaws.  So my overall plan is to use NVDA 
as my primary screen reader and Jaws as my backup if things come up that 
NVDA has problems with.  May Window Eyes Rest in Peace.

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Selecting E-mail Recipients

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

I won’t write about this any more because I’m as tired of writing about it as 
you are of hearing about it. I have the latest version of Window Eyes, the 
latest version of NVDA, and the latest version of JAWS on my Windows 7 64-bit 
Pro computer. Selecting E-mail recipients by typing in the To field works 
perfectly for me in Window-Eyes.In JAWS, nothing is spoken, and no suggestions 
appear. The Read Current Line and arrow keys only read my typed text. When I 
tab out and back into the field, only my typed text appears. In NVDA, likewise, 
when I start typing in the To field, I can only read my typed text. If I arrow 
down or up, I still  only hear my typed text. However, if I tab out and then 
back into the field, I hear the first suggestion spoken. If I were to type some 
letters and arrow down twice and then tab out and back, I would hear the third 
suggestion in the To field. These results would be expected. Thus, the 
suggestion information is populating properly, but NVDA won’t read it. Strange 
indeed.
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Re: Getting to the meat and potatoes of jaws website

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

I don't have the answer to your first question, but you can get on the JAWS 
list at:  http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


-Original Message- 
From: Paulette Vickery via Talk

Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 12:58 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: Getting to the meat and potatoes of jaws website

Hi all,



Could someone please post the way to get to the area of the Jaws website
where it talks about how to use the software, not just the hype? Also,
please repost the way to get on the jaws email list. Thanks so much for your
help in advance.



Paulette

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Selecting E-mail recipients in WLM

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In Window-Eyes, I can start typing the name of a recipient and get a list of 
suggestions from which to select who I want. In JAWS 18, this doesn’t work. I 
must press the Select Contacts button and do a quick search. Anyone else 
experienced this?
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Re: Thunderbird Question

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I am not a Thunderbird user, but try Insert+Tab. in JAWS.

-Original Message- 
From: brice Mijares via Talk

Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 9:04 AM
To: Pastor Gil Pries ; Window-Eyes Discussion List ; t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Re: Thunderbird Question

If using window eyes, yes on first question, and for attachments, alt M
and arrow down to attachments. So far using Jaws with limited use, it
will tell you read or unread, but I can't get it to tell me what message
 Good Luck.number it is. For instance, one of 40.
On 5/26/2017 6:38 AM, Pastor Gil Pries via Talk wrote:

Hi,
I have 2 Thunderbird questions.
The first one is does Thunderbird indicate email unread,  read, reply, and 
attachment?

Second question is how do you get to attachments in Thunderbird?
Thanks,

Pastor Gil
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JAWS List

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

Has anyone actually tried getting on this list. I receive posts from other 
listers, but not my own. I know on some lists, we do not see our posts. Is 
there a waiting period before we can post?
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Re: JAWS Software Synthesizer Volume

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

It is good that one can do this, but it's sad that JAWS, the program said to 
be the anointed screen reader for all time, does not provide a way to adjust 
the synthesizer volume. On another note, it seems that help with  nmouse 
movement and adjusting how many pixels the mouse moves with each key press 
is difficult to find. Yet, since I really don't worry too muich about either 
of these, I enjoy those things about Window-Eyes. Nontheless, I am learning 
my way around JAWS and getting along well. As has been stated in previous 
posts, there are merits and pitfalls with all screen readers.


-Original Message- 
From: Dennis Long via Talk

Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 10:47 AM
To: 'Steve Nutt' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: JAWS Software Synthesizer Volume

Guess what you can do the same thing in windows 7 and back to xp I believe. 
you


-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Steve Nutt via Talk

Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 9:23 AM
To: 'Joseph Norton'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: JAWS Software Synthesizer Volume

Hi,

But you can, in Windows 10, adjust the volume of JAWS as a whole.

Go to System Tray, find your sound card and right click or press 
applications key, then Open Volume Mixer.  Now you will see a volume 
specifically for JAWS.  If you turn that down, it will turn Eloquence down.


All the best

Steve

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve=comproom.co...@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Joseph Norton via Talk

Sent: 22 May 2017 08:01
To: Richard Petty ; Window-Eyes DiscussionList 


Subject: RE: JAWS Software Synthesizer Volume

This is only true with Eloquence.

If you are using Vocalizer or SAPI speech, you can adjust volume of the 
speech.


To do this, press Insert-j for the JAWS window.  In the options menu, select 
Voices.  Under that, select Voice Adjustment.  You’ll be asked to select a 
default voice profile.  Once you select Sapi or Vocalizer profile, you will 
find that there is now a control you can tab to in order to set the speech 
volume.


Hope this helps.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Richard Petty via Talk
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 7:38 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: JAWS Software Synthesizer Volume

Is it correct that volume cannot be adjusted and set within JAWS, but 
instead only with the system volume or physical volume controls on the 
computer? If it can be set within JAWS, how is this done?


Thanks in advance.

Richard Petty

-Original Message-
From: Richard Petty [mailto:richard.pe...@earthlink.net]
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 6:31 AM
To: 'Lloyd Rasmussen'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: WordNav Functionality in JAWS

Thanks so much.

-Original Message-
From: Lloyd Rasmussen [mailto:l...@sprynet.com]
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 9:45 PM
To: Richard Petty; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: WordNav Functionality in JAWS

I think that the Word Nav app was inspired by a feature that was already in 
JAWS. And you go in and out of its browse mode with insert-Z, which is the 
same keystroke that is used with web browsers in JAWS.




Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
http://lras.home.sprynet.com
-Original Message-
From: Richard Petty via Talk
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 10:21 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: WordNav Functionality in JAWS

All,

I will soon make the move to JAWS. The Wordnav app has provided very nice 
functionality for navigating MS Word documents.


What are the JAWS commands, if any, closest to those in Wordnav for moving 
through headings, tables and other document features?


Thanks in advance.

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+richard.petty=earthlink@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Marcie Chaney via Talk

Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 8:29 PM
To: 'Doug Geoffray'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration

I talked to customer service about something related to your question and 
they told me that zoomtext fusion 11 will be using JAWS for the screen 
reader portion of fustion and that the upgrade from zoomtext fustion 10 to
11 is quite costly but not as expensive as getting magic with JAWS. This is 
not a direct answer to your concern about ap central. It is what happens to 
WE after WE goes away.

Marcie Brink-Chaney CVRT

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+chaneyma=ameritech@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf 
Of Doug Geoffray via Talk

Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 11:35 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration

Reeva,

Good question.  At this point we have no plans on taking down app central 
but clearly at some point in the future will become irrelevant and go down.
I would hope as long as Window-Eyes can continued to be used it would be up 
and if it does 

Fw: JAWS E-mail List

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

From: Tom Fairhurst 
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 3:13 PM
To: talk-requ...@lists.window-eyes.com 
Subject: JAWS E-mail List

Could the lister who sent the info on this list please resent it? You can send 
it to me off list so as not to clutter up the GW list.
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Fw: Reading the Status Line in JAWS

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

From: Tom Fairhurst 
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 3:07 PM
To: talk-requ...@lists.window-eyes.com 
Subject: Reading the Status Line in JAWS

Is there a JAWS equivalent for reading the status line in a window in MS Word 
or other programs? Reading the top or bottom line doesn’t give enough 
information. If one can’t identify the cursor position, using MS Word is almost 
impossible.
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Re: Saving a copy of Window Eyes

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

You should also save a copy of your Default fil in your Window-EyesUsers 
directory. Finally, if yuou should save the files of voices you downloaded 
from the GW Micro seb site. If you install Window-Eyes again, you will need 
to reinstall the voices again if you want them. That is, you will need to 
uninstall each voice and reinstall it. If you have enough hard disk space, I 
would suggest not uninstalling Window-Eyes. You can set it up not to start 
automatically. Sorry for the long read. Hope this helps.start


-Original Message- 
From: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD,Inc. via Talk

Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 11:32 AM
To: 'Paulette Vickery' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Saving a copy of Window Eyes

Paulette, why not download a copy from GW Micro's website and save it on a
flash drive or somewhere on your computer hard disk?  That way, you'd always
have it to reinstall when that becomes necessary.

Note that you may have to install a previous version such as 9.0.0 before
you can install the upgrade.  Hopefully I'm still right on that one!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


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WLM Contacts Search in JAWS

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

When running Window-Eyes, I start typing in the “to”  field, and I hear WLM 
searching contacts, and I can usually reach the one I want. At most, I can use 
the arrow keys to choose the one I want. However, with JAWS 18, this doesn’t 
seem to work. Any ideas?
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Graphics Labeling in JAWS

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Does JAWS have an autographic labeling capability? I know one can label 
graphics individually.
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Re: if you have been waiting for your license, read this

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

After 2 days, I called them. The individual with whm I spoke said they were 
having issues with codes being sent. He E-mailed mine to me, and I received 
it almost instantly when  I checked my E-mail.


-Original Message- 
From: Dave via Talk

Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 7:45 PM
To: soaringeag...@comcast.net ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: if you have been waiting for your license, read this

Hello Jo,

Some here received their Authorization codes within a few minutes to
three or more days.Some were told they would have them mailed to
their home address.

I was told it would be three days.  Three days came, and I still had
nothing, so I called.  They did some magic on their end, and within 10
minutes I had my Codes and could proceed with the Window Eyes to Jaws
migration

If I had not called, I have a feeling I would still be waiting for them.

Not sure why mine and others took longer, but if you've been waiting,
I'd give them a call on Monday morning.

Grumpy Dave


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More on Sohos

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The Sophos Home window works a bit better with NVDA, but is not fully 
functional. It doesn’t appear that protection settings can be changed there 
although they are displayed. If anyone has gotten window-Eyes to work with it, 
let me know.
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Sophos

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

Well, I decided to trySophos as suggested by some listers. It’s quite 
interestingb. I first noticed that an icon is not put on the desktop. Next, 
when I click on the Sophos Home button in the task bar, I get a totally 
unreadable worthless window. Finally, I logged into my account on Sophos home 
page. I have started a scan, but I don’t know how. I trust it is running in the 
background, but I have no way to monitor it. I figured out also that b efore I 
could even use the software, I had to run the diagnostic utility from the 
Programs menu. Are you confused by what I have said. I am too.What is going on? 
I am using Windows 7 64-bit-pro with WE 9.5.4.
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Window-Eyes Error

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

I recently removed AVG from my computer in order to explore other antivirus 
programs. As a result, I no longer needed the avg.set file I created. Thus, I 
deleted it. Now, Window-Eyes tells me that the file is not a valid set file and 
can’t be loaded. Of course, it is not valid because I deleted it. Why does 
Window-Eyes still think I am trying to use the file? I am using WE 9.5.4 with 
Windows 7 64-bit Pro.
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MS Excel 2010

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

I am using WE 9.5.5 with Windows 7 64-bit pro. When I press F2 to edit a cell, 
nothing reads any more. This occurs whether the window i8s maximized or not. I 
tried refreshing the accessibility library of Window-Eyes which worked for one 
time. But the vehavior quickly returned. Any help would be appreciated.
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Re: 9.5.4 very unstable on my HP desktop

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

This will be a double-edge sword for many of you, but after I turned Popup 
blocker off, pages sem to load better.


-Original Message- 
From: Donald L. Roberts via Talk

Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2017 5:32 PM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: 9.5.4 very unstable on my HP desktop

I am writing to inquire whether other list members have observed
significant instability with Window-Eyes 9.5.4 especially on web pages.
I have an HP desktop running Windows 10 Creator edition.  This
instability was also present with previous windows versions,
specifically 8.1 and Windows 10 anniversary and also 1507.  So it may
well be something unique to this machine.


It is almost the norm rather than the exception that Window-eyes will
crash whenever I launch a web page or search for something on a page,
such that I will then have to restart using alt control w.  I often have
to launch Jaws 16 to get the job done.  Today, for example I went to
wal-mart.com to search for an RCA Galileo Pro.  The main Wal-mart page
loaded without incident, and I got to the search box without
difficulty.  But as soon as I hit control shift f and typed RCA Galileo
Pro and hit enter, Window-eyes crashed.


Are any of you listers experiencing anything comparable?


Thanks.


Don Roberts


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Certificate Fix

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

I’ve been reading a lot about this recentlyh. I have WE 9.5.4, so I shouldn’t 
be affected. However, my latest full update installation is 9.5.3. Should I 
request a 9.5.4 full installer in casse I ever need to reinstall the software? 
If I see things correctly, the 9.5.3 installer may not work any more.
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Graphic Labeling and the Mouse

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

After a long time out, I am using a vinyl to USB converter again. Needless to 
say, I had to remind myself of some things. I got the recording and playback 
settings correct, and was able to record. I found, however, that I couldn’t 
find a stop button. I didn’t remember Window-Eyes not reading it before. When 
moving around the screen by clip, I found a couple of buttons that just said 
“graphic.” When I clicked on them, the labels were identified as “pause” and 
“stop.”Of course, they only appear while the recording process is active. I 
don’t recall this behavior occuring previously. Must I label these graphics? 
Incidentally, the Autolabel Graphic feature didn’t change anything. Iam using 
WE 9.5.4 on a Windows 7 64-bit Pro PC.
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Re: the triple talk USB or the dectalk USB

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

I have a triple talk USB. I still prefer the Reed Eloquence voice. The 
triple talk is not as responsive and sounds more robotic. Nonetheless, I 
feel a bit more secure knowing that I can have speech available even if the 
sound card goes out. I've never used the double talk. I believe it may be 
the older version but I'm not sure.


-Original Message- 
From: Casey via Talk

Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2016 10:42 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: the triple talk USB or the dectalk USB

Hi I am thinking about maybe getting one of these synthesizers.
The triple talk USB or the dectalk USB.
Witch is the better one that will give the fastest response time and
work the best with window-eyes?
now I know it maybe personal choice.
But I know A few of you out hear of used either one of both of these
units so all comments and suggestions are welcome.
And if you like one over the other please tell us why that is.


--
Casey
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Re: Help With PDF File

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

I had this happen, and the only way I could read it correctly is with QRead. 
Sorry, that program costs $30 as I recall. AI Squared got the same results. 
The originator of the file didn't know why it happened either.


-Original Message- 
From: Robert Ringwald via Talk

Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2016 5:37 PM
To: Talk
Subject: Help With PDF File


I have a manual in PDF attached to an email. I know there are 60 pages or 
more to the manual. However, I fcan only read the first page.


How do I read further down in the manual? Page down, end, down arrow, 
nothing wortks.



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Fulton Street Jazz Band (Dixieland/Swing)
916/ 806-9551
Amateur (ham) Radio Station K6YBV

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Re: Organize folders

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

Try Alt-V and then O. If you have sorted your files by name, that option 
will be checked. It is the first View option. Pressing Enter on that option 
will reverse the sort. HTH.


-Original Message- 
From: Don Smith via Talk

Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 9:45 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: Organize folders

Hi Folks:



I have a drive with a folder called books.

I have alwas had it sorted from a to z.



I have just discovered it is now z to a.



I have no idea why this has happened.



Have I let an intruder in. (smile)



I have lookded under the context key where I thought the choice to organize
was there, but, alas, not there.

Don



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Re: WE Losing focus

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

I don't see a setting for dislpayng or hiding tool tips.

-Original Message- 
From: Chris Grabowski via Talk

Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 8:52 AM
To: Robert Ringwald ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: WE Losing focus

Hi,
If using AVG, go to its options, advance. And turn off display tooltips.
I have seen this cause focus issues...perhaps Whatever antivirus your 
running has an option to turn off tooltips.


Chris



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From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Robert Ringwald via Talk

Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 8:00 PM
To: Talk 
Subject: Re: WE Losing focus

Russ Kiehne writes:

I'm currently running windows live mail 2012 and under the Mail tab, there 
is no such option called "show an envelope

 icon when new mail arrives.".


Same here.

When new mail arrives, Window-Eyes loses focus.

How can I correct this?

How about it Window-Eyes support?

-Bob Ringwald
r...@ringwald.com

-Original Message-
From: Pamela Dominguez via Talk
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 3:02 PM
To: Steve Clower ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: WE Losing focus

After I do alt f, when I type t, it dings at me.  I have seen options, but I 
don't know what to do when I'm in there.  Pam.

-Original Message-
From: Steve Clower via Talk
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 3:26 PM
To: Robert Ringwald ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: WE Losing focus

Bob,

I haven't looked at WLM in a few years, so I'm going from memory. From the 
inbox, press Alt-F, T to open the WLM options. Next, go to the Mail tab, and 
look for an option that says something to the effect of, "show an envelope 
icon when new mail arrives." Uncheck it, hit Enter to accept the change, and 
you should be all set.


If that doesn't work or you can't locate the option, I recommend pingging 
the Microsoft Disability Answer Desk for help. They can be reached at (800) 
936-5900.


Hope this helps.
Steve


-Original Message-
From: Robert Ringwald [mailto:r...@ringwald.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 3:17 PM
To: Steve Clower ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 


Subject: Re: WE Losing focus

And how do I do this?

-Bob Ringwald


-Original Message-
From: Steve Clower via Talk
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 11:56 AM
To: Robert Ringwald ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: WE Losing focus

Disabling the option to have new mail notifications appear in the system 
tray in WLM itself should fix this.



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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+sclower=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Robert Ringwald via Talk
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 2:48 PM
To: Talk 
Subject: WE Losing focus

Ever since installing the latest version of WE, when ever I am reading or 
writing a WLM email,or doing work using Word, when ever a new email comes 
in, WE loses focus and goes somewhere else. I have to fish around, 
especially if I have several windows open, in order to find and continue my 
work.



Why is this? Is there any way to stop
WE from doing this?



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Band (Dixieland/Swing) 916/ 806-9551 Amateur (ham) Radio Station K6YBV


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Abbyy FineReader 12 Professional Worthless program?

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

If any of you have used this program, you may write me off list. When I try to 
scan a document, all I get is an untitled document with page numbers on it. 
Sorry I bought the program. The WE virtual View app displays no text, either. 
Please help.
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Re: is casper 10 accessible?

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

It is different, but I think it is workable. The menus work a bit 
differently.


-Original Message- 
From: net bat via Talk

Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 12:38 PM
To: via Talk
Subject: is casper 10 accessible?

i just got a upgrade offer for casper 10 from casper 8.
has anyone been useing this version and is it w e accessible?
thanks for info




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Re: laptop advice

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

Since we are talking about this, I have a Windows 7 computer. I have a large 
music library and have done audio recording. When I upgraded from 4 to 8 
gigs, things worked much better. I am sure a Windows 10 machine would work 
faster as others have stated.


-Original Message- 
From: Tony Hernandez via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 11:30 AM
To: Shannon ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: laptop advice

Hope no one minds if I chime in here. If you have 4 gb of RAM, my
opinion is that Win7is the way to go. Win10 in my experience is a bit
more memory intensive and therefore a bit slower than 7 with 4 gb of
RAM. I've put my money where my mouth is on this one as I just ordered a
RAM upgrade for my Win10 computer from 4 GB to its max of 8. I have that
much confidence that it will make the difference that I spent the money
on a new RAM chip and will even have to pay someone to put it in as it's
an Asus laptop, which are notorious for being difficult to service as an
end user due to difficult designs for replacing hardware. That being
said, I do like the new features of Win10 a lot. It's a stable OS too,
at least as stable as 7.



On 10/26/2016 12:20 PM, Shannon via Talk wrote:

Thank you for the feed back.
Now I'll ask of you one more?
I was given the choice of win 7 or 10.
Are you using 10 and if so how is it working for you?
Thanks
Shannon

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[mailto:talk-bounces+shannon=bartchroofing@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Josh Kennedy via Talk
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 8:13 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: laptop advice

ok let me break all this down for you. beside each thing i will write
good or bad.

I have an opportunity to get one of these, only a re-ferb model,


Dell Latitude good brand

Intel Core i5 that is a fast processor for graphics intensive pc games
like grand theft auto five.

4GB 4gb of ram is very good.

128GB SSD ok the 128gb ssd means your pc will start up very very very
fast all the time and shut off very very fast and load everything very
very fast just like a braille note note taker does.

14" LED Ultrabook (6430U) that means it is a small and light weight 
laptop.








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AVG Users

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I would appreciate your helping me. I was thinking of purchasing AVG, but I am 
so confused on the order page, that I didn’t press the Continue button, but 
backed out before checkout. I couldn’t tell what my final total would be. There 
were all these clickables. Write me off list. Thanks.
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TWC

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I use Time Warner Cable. Has anyone tried to program the program guide from the 
web site? Also, are you aware of manuals for controlling a remote for a cable 
box? Obviously, if they are, I would need the names of the remote and the box 
to locate them. I don’t have them now, soI’m asking for general information. 
Thanks.
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Re: Reminiscing about old Screen Readers and Synthesizers

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My first machine was a laptop from Computer Aids Corporation with Vocal-Eyes 
already on it. It had a 30-meg hard drive. I bought a 5.25 external drive. I 
used a desktop at my job with the same capacity. It had Vocal-Eyes with a 
Sounding Board synthesizer.


-Original Message- 
From: Don H via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2016 7:37 AM
To: Dave ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Reminiscing about old Screen Readers and Synthesizers

My first screen reader was called Enable Reader and my syn was a Votrax
PSS if I remember right.  I also remember paying $500 for a 20 Meg
internal hard drive so I did not have to use 5 1/4 floppy disks to run
the machine.  Of course that was a DOS machine
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Re: speech synthesizers

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

If you run  the DecTalk Access 32 synthesizer and play around with the tone 
option, you'll find similar voices.


-Original Message- 
From: Linette Sukup via Talk

Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 7:04 PM
To: Reeva Webb ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: speech synthesizers



The Kurzweil reading machine has a child's voice called Kit the Kid.

Peace.
Linette



On 10/18/2016 4:02 PM, Reeva Webb via Talk wrote:

Ok, this is semi random but anyone remember a synth from the mid to late
'90s that had like child voices?  They were somewhat real sounding. No, it
wasn't vocalizer or dectalk or eloquence. I haven't heard them since but
remember them from elementary school at that time.




On Tuesday, October 18, 2016, Jim via Talk 
wrote:


Hi there folks!

My first relatively high end synthesizer was the Accent Sa External unit.
I loved it-accept for the volume control which either needed cleaned or
replaced.  I used it in colledge as well as on many other computerss with 
a

TinyTalk boot disk which I personally made.  Well, I had a lot of friends
helping me to learn DOS which helped out a great deal! Catch Ya Later de

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Re: history of window eyes

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

Hi, Drew. While I believe we should not spend much more time on list for 
this, I bought my first home computer frojm Computer Aids Corporation in 
1989. It had ScreenTalk installed on it. I have used Vocal-Eyes and 
Window-Eyes ever since.


-Original Message- 
From: Drew Clark via Talk

Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 2:56 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: history of window eyes

hi,

i am interested to find out the history of window eyes, who created it
and how it was started. is there any webpage/audio podcast that
interviews the g and the w behind gw micro?

thanks


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Re: The Phasing Out of Window-Eyes

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

Thank you, Samuel.

-Original Message- 
From: Samuel Wilkins via Talk

Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 2:27 PM
To: bj colt via Talk
Subject: The Phasing Out of Window-Eyes

Hello John,

I have been drafting a letter to VFO because, as you know, there is
speculation that Window-Eyes is going to be phased out.  If it is, I am
not switching to Jaws, because I won't be able to afford it, amongst
other reasons.  However, in my letter, I have pointed out that if
Window-Eyes goes, it provides a significant problem for blind people
wanting to get into work, as not everyone has an access to work fund.
Moreover, one of the few ways we can work, especially for younger
people, is volunteering, and there, we may be in a crisis, as IT
technicians are paranoid about NVDA, since it is open source, and they
think it could contain a virus or compromise security in another way.
We would be in limbo, as they won't want NVDA, and they won't pay for
Jaws, as Access to Work won't pay for equipment for unpaid work, so you
would have to buy a license for every computer you use out of your own
pocket.  What do you think?  Also, I have heard that they are developing
both Magic and ZoomText.  How come they are doing that, but phasing out
Window-Eyes?  To me, this is a case of double standards.


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Samuel Wilkins

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songr

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Well, I tried disabling my antivirus protection and songr didn’t install any 
differently. The desktop shortcut still doesn’t worik. 
the program appeared to load briefly and then stop. I tried to install it over 
itself but got an error message. If these jokers hope to make money in the 
future, they had better come up with a better product than this. I actually 
E-mailed them. We’ll see if they write back. I really hope I’m missing 
something. I am using Windos 7 64-bit Pro with the latest version of 
Window-Eyes. I am not having problems with other applications, and AVG didn’t 
detect any problems yesterday evening.
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Songr

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

Several of you have bragged about this program, but I don’t understand. I tried 
to install version 2.0. When I did, the installation seemed to go well, but 
when I used the shortcut on the desktop, it could not find the songr.exe file. 
I used everything to search for it and seemed to find it under Windows 
Prefetch-0-not where I expected to find it. Why not in program files or program 
files X86. Very strange. I found other Songr files in the local temp directory 
of my user directory. I uninstalled and reinstalled the program to get the same 
results. Surely I’[m missing something.
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Kindle Books

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

This should be the last message on the subject. When I tried to read the book 
with the Kindle PC app, I got the  message that there isno text on this page. 
The book I was trying to read is Captain America Civil War by Ed Brubaker. The 
book appears to be a scanned image. Converting with Codex, I tried EPub, PDF, 
and TXT, and no text  was displayed. When attempting to read the PDF, I got the 
“Empty Document” message. QRead couldn’t parce the book—not surprising.The 
Virtual View script was no help. The question now is, how can one determine he 
has such a file before purchasing a Kindle book?
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Kindle for PC

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

Thanks so much for everyone’s help on this. I got the program working and can 
download and read books now. I can download books without using the web site. I 
believe the book I can’t read is a PDF file. There are possible ways to work on 
that later, but my first hurdle is cleared. Thanks again.
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Fw: Kindle Books

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

It appears that the only way I may be able to attempt to read a Kindle book I 
purchased is to download it ontomy PC and try working with a program such as 
Codex. Thus, I really need the PC app to work for me. One lister gave me 
instructions on how to register my PC with the Kindle site. It appears to have 
been done. However, I’m back to figuring out how to actually select and 
download a book. Has anyone done this recently—not several years ago, not 1 or 
2 years ago, but with the latest Window-Eyes, IE 11, and Windows 7 64-bit Pro. 
Detailed instructions, please? Yes, I have done some crost-posting about this, 
hoping for an answer. Sorry for the rant.

From: Tom Fairhurst 
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2016 9:38 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: Kindle Books

I have been reading Kindle books with tie IPhone app. I have found a book that 
VoiceOver won’t read. Is there any way to make this work? I have had great 
difficulty in making the PC app work for me. Even if I did, I not sure that 
woule help/ I would appreciate any help.
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Kindle Books

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I have been reading Kindle books with tie IPhone app. I have found a book that 
VoiceOver won’t read. Is there any way to make this work? I have had great 
difficulty in making the PC app work for me. Even if I did, I not sure that 
woule help/ I would appreciate any help.
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Re: here's how to disable plug ins in firefox

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

Thanks for all the help. I was able to disable the plugin in Firefox and IE. 
I have discovered that a site I use in IE requires it, so I will disable and 
reenable as needed.


-Original Message- 
From: mcleod stinnett via Talk

Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 4:41 AM
To: talk
Subject: here's how to disable plug ins in firefox

press alt t for tools choose add ons turn browse mode off, choose plug
ins from the list then, tab over a bit until you get to the list of
plug ins, go down the list until you get to the one you want to
disable, tab over a couple of times to get to, change this plug in's
settings, or something like that, make your choice and close the
window, hope this helps
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AVG

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

I was not really satisfied with Eset Smart Security, so when my subscription 
ran out, I tried AVG. In that whole process, I found out how difficult it was 
to remove Eset from my computer. Nonetheless, I was able to do so. I used 
Ninite to install the free version of AVG. The protection interface seems 
fairly easy to use. The Ninite installer did not have the imfamous worthless 
Zen screen. However, from time to time, I get a message informing me that AVG 
wants to do a web tune-up. It wants to change my  IE security settings, my home 
page to Chrome, my search engine to Bing, and my default browser to Chrome. 
Sometimes, this dialog comes up in a worthless custom control. Sometimes, it 
comes up in HTML format. I don’t want to change my home page or my search 
provider. In the process, I am also asked to click on Extentions, but I have no 
way of doing so. The changes made to Internet Explorer 11 cause web pages to 
load more slowly or hang. I have reset my IE settings twice. How do you make 
this dialog work better for you and keep it from coming up? I am using Windows 
7 64-Bit Pro and IE 11.
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