Re: [Talk-GB] pub defined as a relation

2017-10-25 Thread Philip Barnes
Certainly possible as we move to putting the tags on the outline instead of the building. It is not unusual to have the car park or garden area separated by a road. Phil (trigpoint) On 24 October 2017 17:35:01 BST, Jez Nicholson wrote: >Just preparing an Overpass

Re: [Talk-GB] Leicester A

2017-10-23 Thread Philip Barnes
Hi Gerv Sorry you had problems, mapping hospital departments is one thing that has been puzzling other mappers and myself. Some mappers have used multiple hospitals, which breaks the one real life object to one osm object. There is only one LRI. I have not lived in Leicestershire for six years

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging Schools with fhrs:id

2017-10-20 Thread Philip Barnes
On Fri, 2017-10-20 at 20:33 +0100, Lester Caine wrote: > On 20/10/17 18:51, Gregrs wrote: > > I think it makes sense for both fhrs:id and addr:postcode to be on > > the same entity, whether that's the boundary or a building. In some > > cases schools might have more than one building with an

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging Schools with fhrs:id

2017-10-20 Thread Philip Barnes
On Fri, 2017-10-20 at 18:43 +0100, Dave F wrote: > I've been putting it on the boundary as it covers the whole school > which > can include domestic science (or whatever it's called now) & the > school > fête barbecue as well as the canteen. > Interestingly I have since been looking at FHRS

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging Schools with fhrs:id

2017-10-20 Thread Philip Barnes
On Fri, 2017-10-20 at 15:17 +0100, Colin Spiller wrote: > I've recently been catching up with some fhrs:id tags. I've found > several (most?) of the local schools have entries in the Food > Standards > agency lists. I must have missed something, because I'm now confused. > > Most of the school

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project: Addresses and Postcodes

2017-10-19 Thread Philip Barnes
The polygons can also overlap. The road I live on is a crescent with different postcodes for odd (outside) and even (inside) resulting in the centroids being close together and within the even area. Phil (trigpoint) On 19 October 2017 13:00:25 BST, Steven Horner

Re: [Talk-GB] Rendering kissing gates in OSM

2017-10-10 Thread Philip Barnes
On 10 October 2017 09:30:38 BST, Bob Hawkins wrote: >I wonder why kissing gates are not rendered in OpenStreetMap – >certainly in the Standard version? Their installation in place of >stiles in my part of South Oxfordshire is increasing apace thanks to >the work of the

Re: [Talk-GB] National Cycle Network Route 55

2017-10-09 Thread Philip Barnes
On Mon, 2017-10-09 at 18:11 +0100, Philip Barnes wrote: > On Mon, 2017-10-09 at 16:35 +0100, Adam Snape wrote: > > Hi all, > > I noticed when plotting a route on cycle.travel that the relation for > NCN 55 http://osm.org/relation/37734 was deleted, presumably by > mistake, i

Re: [Talk-GB] National Cycle Network Route 55

2017-10-09 Thread Philip Barnes
On Mon, 2017-10-09 at 16:35 +0100, Adam Snape wrote: Hi all, I noticed when plotting a route on cycle.travel that the relation for NCN 55 http://osm.org/relation/37734 was deleted, presumably by mistake, in this changeset http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/52118 445. Is there a way to

Re: [Talk-GB] Red route attribution

2017-10-04 Thread Philip Barnes
As far as I am aware red routes only exist in that there London, so a UK wide practice is unlikely. Probably equivalent to no stopping tagging combined with opening hours? Phil (trigpoint) On 4 October 2017 10:14:33 BST, Nils Nolde wrote: >Hi all, > >I´m trying to find

[Talk-GB] NLS maps for OSM editing

2017-10-03 Thread Philip Barnes
Are we able to use NLS 25 inch maps in josm for OSM l editing. I am able to access the ones added earlier, such as Hampshire but not the later additions such as Shropshire or Leicestershire. Phil (trigpoint) -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my

Re: [Talk-GB] Access and other tags for a particular Restricted Byway

2017-09-29 Thread Philip Barnes
On Fri, 2017-09-29 at 18:59 +0100, Bob Hawkins wrote: > > Jerry > I thank you for your helpful reply. > One of my difficulties with Restricted Byways is the use of > motor_vehicle=no as shown in Robert Whittaker’s table, http://wiki.op > enstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Rjw62/PRoW_Table. > I use

Re: [Talk-GB] OpenStreetCam or Mapillary?

2017-09-22 Thread Philip Barnes
I certainly prefer to take geo-referenced photos and upload them through a script rather than use an app that deletes them. I at least have a backup, and can refer back to find street or shop names that mapillary has chosen to blur. I have also discovered that mapillary has its own community,

Re: [OSM-talk] Wheelchair accessibility

2017-09-21 Thread Philip Barnes
I did mean to say 'in the UK'. Phil (trigpoint) On 21 September 2017 13:07:44 BST, Andy Mabbett <a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote: >On 21 September 2017 at 08:17, Philip Barnes <p...@trigpoint.me.uk> >wrote: > >> As far as I am aware, all bus routes have to be wheel

Re: [OSM-talk] Wheelchair accessibility

2017-09-21 Thread Philip Barnes
As far as I am aware, all bus routes have to be wheelchair accessible by law. They certainly all use low floor kneeling buses locally. Phil On 21 September 2017 06:22:06 BST, Maarten Deen wrote: >On 2017-09-20 23:10, john whelan wrote: >> I was at a presentation yesterday

Re: [Talk-GB] Use of Drones

2017-09-18 Thread Philip Barnes
There was a talk by 'the only licensed drone pilot in Scotland' at SOTM Scotland a couple of years ago. I missed the outdoor demo as I went to the NLS map library. Phil (trigpoint) On 18 September 2017 12:14:01 BST, Marc Gemis wrote: >Oleksiy Muzalyev seems to be

Re: [Talk-GB] Open survey on participation biases in OSM

2017-09-18 Thread Philip Barnes
I have memories of this being in a talk at SOTM 2013 in Birmingham. Phil (trigpoint) On 18 September 2017 12:04:01 BST, Harry Wood wrote: >So I guess you're looking for : https://vimeo.com/44870758 >SheepCamp 2012, Monica Stephens > > >There's a pretty big list of

Re: [Talk-us] Open survey on participation biases in OSM

2017-09-05 Thread Philip Barnes
I am not sure pubs are a good thing to compare but I have certainly mapped playgrounds as I find them, no particular interest beyond trying to complete the map of my home town. Finding them does take time, they are not as easy to map as pubs (big buildings on the main roads). We are not a huge

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM feature density vs edits per features

2017-09-01 Thread Philip Barnes
On Fri, 2017-09-01 at 12:04 +0100, Andy Townsend wrote: > > One thing you won't be short of is the sheer volume of data. If you > like a challenge, go for it - but I suspect that you might be better > starting with somewhere with fewer variables if you want some > quantifiable results to come

Re: [OSM-talk] Beach routing

2017-08-29 Thread Philip Barnes
This really needs routers to be able to route over areas, the same issue exists over large areas of grass such as found in parks or town squares. Phil (trigpoint) On 29 August 2017 12:00:48 BST, James wrote: >"Dont tag for the rendered" > >Routers should make beaches

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2017-08-24 Thread Philip Barnes
On 24 August 2017 01:09:29 BST, Greg Troxel wrote: > >My impreession is that in the UK, there were A/B/C/U, and then later M >were created, and I'm not sure when trunk happened. > The term trunk goes back long before OSM, they date back to The Trunk Roads Act 1936. On the

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2017-08-22 Thread Philip Barnes
On 22 August 2017 14:46:33 BST, Richard wrote: >On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 08:40:13AM -0400, Greg Troxel wrote: >> >> Two points: >> >> Speed limit does not describe the speeds that reasonably >responsible >> real people actually drive on roads. The UK/IE notion of 60

Re: [Talk-GB] Edits in Wales

2017-08-15 Thread Philip Barnes
On 15 August 2017 19:27:40 BST, Andy Townsend wrote: >On 15/08/2017 19:22, Brian Prangle wrote: >> But even local authorities and the OS get into hot water over names >> >!(but > >> to

Re: [Talk-GB] Lewis Cubitt Square, Kings Cross

2017-08-04 Thread Philip Barnes
On Fri, 2017-08-04 at 15:29 +0100, Andy Mabbett wrote: > That was, of course, meant to go to the Wikimedia UK mailing list, > not > the OSM UK list. > > I was wondering why so many replies were about mapping... But it has sparked some useful debate, both here and #osm-gb. Phil (trigpoint)

Re: [Talk-GB] Edits in Wales

2017-07-27 Thread Philip Barnes
Hi Miguel, welcome to Wales or should I say Croisi y Cymru. I am based in the Marches on the border so my mapping is regularly both sides of the border. I do keep an eye on mid Wales through whodidit as we are very sparse on mappers in that area. > >I'm looking for other contributors in

Re: [Talk-GB] [Osmf-talk] Live OSM discussion in ~45 minutes (7.30pm UK time)

2017-07-27 Thread Philip Barnes
On 27 July 2017 07:37:43 BST, Ilya Zverev wrote: >On SotM 2016 8 of 45 talks (18%) were given by women. Srravya C in her >talk at that SotM shows that only 7% posts in talk@ were posted by >women, and just around 2% — in the tagging@ mailing list. She gives a >few good

Re: [Talk-GB] Shared Public Rights of Way

2017-07-04 Thread Philip Barnes
On 4 July 2017 13:30:09 BST, Dave F wrote: >I think it's worth contacting the PCs. It's unlikely they both want to >take responsibility for it's upkeep. Parish councils don't have responsibility for the upkeep of rights of way, that is the responsibility of the

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Bar v pub

2017-06-23 Thread Philip Barnes
On 23 June 2017 10:18:03 BST, Rory McCann wrote: >Another idea: Rather that hashing out what's a pub and what's a bar, >why >not use additional tags to narrow it down? There are suggestions for >real_ale=yes/no, food=yes/no, microbrewrey=yes/no various ways to say >"they

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Bar v pub

2017-06-22 Thread Philip Barnes
On 22 June 2017 14:39:45 BST, Andy Mabbett wrote: >On 22 June 2017 at 13:50, Alan Grant wrote: > >> Some participants seem to >> assume that the bar-pub distinction is clearly defined in English >(and >> specifically in the English OSM wiki) >

Re: [Talk-GB] Access tagging for buses and service=bus

2017-06-12 Thread Philip Barnes
On Mon, 2017-06-12 at 08:58 +, Harry Wood wrote: > I came across a few tagging quirks to do with bus access and > specifically "service=bus" > > First of all there's some roads with service=Bus (uppercase B). So > that's definitely a mistake. > Only exists in a cluster in Manchester ...plus a

Re: [Talk-GB] Whether to tag/best tag for an unofficial name?

2017-05-31 Thread Philip Barnes
On Wed, 2017-05-31 at 20:02 +0100, Andy Mabbett wrote: > On 31 May 2017 at 18:38, Philip Barnes <p...@trigpoint.me.uk> wrote: > > > Motorways in the UK do no have names > > I'll bear that in mind, the next time I'm driving down the Aston > Expressway: > >    h

Re: [Talk-GB] Whether to tag/best tag for an unofficial name?

2017-05-31 Thread Philip Barnes
On Wed, 2017-05-31 at 18:44 +0100, Adam Snape wrote: > Hi, > > But we do.include local names which are neither official nor signed. > There is at least some inconsistency in application of the > verifiability criteria. > > Local names are one thing, this could be moved to loc_name if there is

Re: [Talk-GB] Whether to tag/best tag for an unofficial name?

2017-05-31 Thread Philip Barnes
On Wed, 2017-05-31 at 18:29 +0100, Adam Snape wrote: > Hi > > "Is it signed as such?" > > No. No signed or official name.  We have had issues with other mappers adding made up fantasy descriptive names to motorways and trunk roads, these have been removed as there is no evidence of them

Re: [Talk-GB] PRoW changes

2017-05-30 Thread Philip Barnes
On Tuesday, 30 May 2017, Gervase Markham wrote: > On 29/05/17 12:02, Brian Prangle wrote: > > There's been a suggestion that OSMUK lobbies for the statutory right to > > receive copies of the legal orders which change Public Rights of Way as > > it can be slow for any official changes to make

Re: [Talk-GB] Landuse Farm

2017-05-19 Thread Philip Barnes
On Fri, 2017-05-19 at 12:22 +0100, SK53 wrote: > Seems my earlier email was a timely reminder, We seem to be down to > over 4,500 now. I know I can't have done more than a couple of > thousand of these. I have certainly seen evidence that these are simply being armchaired with no particular

Re: [Talk-GB] [Imports] Importing fuel stations in UK and future similar imports

2017-05-14 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sun, 2017-05-07 at 10:40 +0200, Pavel Machek wrote: > > > We want to update data from the import in the future, so this kind of > id is ok. That type of data cannot be relied upon for maintenance. As others have said these 'meaningless' tags will be removed by mappers. Objects will be copied

Re: [Talk-GB] [Imports] Importing fuel stations in UK and future similar imports

2017-05-12 Thread Philip Barnes
A few issues I have spotted with the proposed data, Website: This should only be included if it refers to the actual object and should not be set to the shell.co.uk site. I have spotted some really silly street names, such as addr:street=A46/A6 A46/A6 Trunk Road. A filling station is often part

Re: [OSRM-talk] getting into Oxford Street

2017-03-18 Thread Philip Barnes
On Thu, 2017-03-16 at 14:21 +, Alan Bell wrote: > Hi all > > there is a segment of Oxford Street in London from about the Park  > Street/Portman Street crossing to Regent Street where the turn  > restrictions prevent you from going straight on into it, or turning > left  > or right from any

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging adjacent barriers on a way

2017-03-12 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sun, 2017-03-12 at 10:50 +, Adam Snape wrote: > How should we tag a situation where there are different > adjacent barriers affecting different users of a highway? These are > often used where there is some public access but public vehicular use > ifs restricted. To provide some examples: >

Re: [Talk-GB] Blackwall Tunnel

2017-03-11 Thread Philip Barnes
Blackwall tunnel routing now works, thank you for your help in spotting the odd barriers. Phil (trigpoint) ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [Talk-GB] Blackwall Tunnel

2017-03-08 Thread Philip Barnes
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4062586422 I have retagged this from barrier=flood_gate to barrier=gate, gate=flood_gate which seems more hierarchical and simpler to follow. I have added access=yes to the node. http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/88830172 This seemed a strange one when I was

Re: [Talk-GB] Blackwall Tunnel

2017-03-08 Thread Philip Barnes
Phil (trigpoint) > > On 08/03/2017 22:08, Philip Barnes wrote: > > Thank you Adam, I can't even guess what that one is. > > > > Phil (trigpoint) > > > > On Wednesday, 8 March 2017, Adam Snape wrote: > >> Also this barrier http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/888

Re: [Talk-GB] Blackwall Tunnel

2017-03-08 Thread Philip Barnes
Thank you Adam, I can't even guess what that one is. Phil (trigpoint) On Wednesday, 8 March 2017, Adam Snape wrote: > Also this barrier http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/88830172 > > Regards, > > Adam > > On 8 March 2017 at 21:51, Philip Barnes <p...@trigpoint.me.uk&

Re: [Talk-GB] Blackwall Tunnel

2017-03-08 Thread Philip Barnes
Thank you Franz I will try adding an access=yes tag. Phil (trigpoint) On Wednesday, 8 March 2017, Franz v. Gordon wrote: > Hello Phil, > > I found this barrier=flood_gate [1] at the exit of the southbound > tunnel, which may be an unknown barrier with no access for anyone. Mabe > an

[Talk-GB] Blackwall Tunnel

2017-03-08 Thread Philip Barnes
This may be a question for OSRM but I thought I would start locally. A problem, i have come across after a new mapper tried to fix it, is that OSRM will not route through the southbound tunnel. http://map.project-osrm.org/debug/#17.52/51.51198/-0.00679 I cannot spot any problem with the

Re: [Talk-GB] Legally permitted vs inadvisable

2017-03-08 Thread Philip Barnes
On Wed, 2017-03-08 at 11:41 +, SK53 wrote: > Inadvisable is probably too dependent on the individual and their > particular situation. Absolutely, doing this could make many PROW inaccessible. Phil (trigpoint) > As ever it is better to try adding something more objective to the > data which

Re: [Talk-GB] Is this a pokemon go edit?

2017-03-06 Thread Philip Barnes
Hi Ian It certainly looks like a pokemon edit or vandalism. I would simply revert it. It is too unlikely, unlikely that shops would be demolished for a park. Unlikely as it is too small an area. Phil (trigpoint) On Monday, 6 March 2017, Ian Caldwell wrote: > This changeset look wrong. > >

Re: [OSM-talk] No changeset discussion box - Modified via wheelmap.org?

2017-03-01 Thread Philip Barnes
Not closed yet, the box will appear in time. Phil (trigpoint) On Wed Mar 1 13:33:33 2017 GMT, Dave F wrote: > Hi > > This changeset has no discussion box: > https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/46492338 > > The user's other edits does. Is it due to it being via wheelmap > (created_by

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Help with Speed Camera Relation

2017-02-24 Thread Philip Barnes
It depends on the type which is missing from the tagging, the most common (GATSO) only work in one direction and read the rear plate. As an aside I did read today that one area is turning it front facing cameras around because they have finally realised motorcycles don't have front plates.

Re: [Talk-GB] Fwd: [Talk-scotland] Estate Agent Solicitors

2017-02-20 Thread Philip Barnes
On Mon, 2017-02-20 at 11:58 +, Paul Oldham wrote: > On 20/02/17 11:50, SK53 wrote: > > > A couple of other points: > > > >   * I think office=lawyer is more widely used than UK specific > > terms > > like solicitor. > > Funnily enough I was just reading the wiki page on that very thing.

Re: [Talk-GB] London, network=Barclays Cycle Hire

2017-02-18 Thread Philip Barnes
I see no problem with this edit, however should we keep changing the name of the sponsor, or should we be even more bold and simply call it London Cycle Hire, or similar, in the same way the BBC refer to the FA Cup rather than the name of the sponsor it happens to have this year? My 2 pence

Re: [Talk-GB] Should a place be tagged with a node or area?

2017-02-10 Thread Philip Barnes
Hi Adam The place is put on the node. Normally only admim boundaries are mapped in OSM. Suburbs, localties etc do not tend to have defined boundaries so are generally only mapped as nodes. Phil (trigpoint) On Thu Feb 9 23:48:30 2017 GMT, Adam Snape wrote: > Thanks Phil, > > Our local place

Re: [Talk-GB] Traditional/Historic Counties

2017-02-09 Thread Philip Barnes
Normally places are mapped with both a boundary and node. A node is certainly needed for navigation and should be somewhere sensible, normally the centre is where someone who puts the placename into a satnav would expect to end up, rather than a housing estate in the geographical centre. Phil

Re: [Talk-GB] Footpath Open Data is not always accurate.

2017-02-07 Thread Philip Barnes
On Tue Feb 7 15:04:22 2017 GMT, Colin Smale wrote: > On 2017-02-07 15:01, Philip Barnes wrote: > > > Hi Adam, welcome to the list. > > > > If the definitive line is obstructed you have an absolute right to go > > around it. > > Are you sure about this? I wou

Re: [Talk-GB] Footpath Open Data is not always accurate.

2017-02-07 Thread Philip Barnes
Hi Adam, welcome to the list. On Tue Feb 7 13:26:00 2017 GMT, Adam Snape wrote: > Hi all, > > This is my first post to this (or indeed any) mailing list. Apologies if > I've made any errors. > > I agree with Colin that we should certainly not be assuming permissive > status for paths which are

Re: [Talk-GB] Footpath Open Data is not always accurate.

2017-02-06 Thread Philip Barnes
On Mon, 2017-02-06 at 14:53 +, Andy Townsend wrote: > On 06/02/2017 11:18, Colin Smale wrote: > > > > >    > >   On 2017-02-06 09:57, Dave F wrote: > >    > > >  On 05/02/2017 11:33, > > > Colin Smale wrote: > > > > > > > > > >   Any

Re: [Talk-GB] OS products (WAS:Quarterly task)

2017-01-04 Thread Philip Barnes
On Wed, 2017-01-04 at 19:57 +, Rob Nickerson wrote: > >BTW: > >https://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/opendatadownload/products.html > > > > >OS Open Map - Local (has several water layers) and OS Open Rivers were > >updated 10/2016 > > How do I view these in JOSM? Thanks :-) > > > > > > >

Re: [OSM-talk] Wikipedia/Wikidata admins cleanup

2017-01-04 Thread Philip Barnes
On Wed, 2017-01-04 at 18:16 +0200, Tomas Straupis wrote: > There was a flow of undiscussed automated wikidata additions in > Lithuania with problems. I asked for discussion before automated > changes. I was given a promise that a discussion will follow. But > there was no discussion. And automated

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly task

2017-01-04 Thread Philip Barnes
On Wed, 2017-01-04 at 17:05 +, Christian Ledermann wrote: > BTW: > https://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/opendatadownload/products.html > > OS Open Map - Local (has several water layers) and OS Open Rivers > were > updated 10/2016 > It certainly a useful project. I often come across npe streams,

Re: [Talk-GB] Ideas for quarterly projects

2016-12-30 Thread Philip Barnes
On Thu, 2016-12-29 at 19:17 +, SK53 wrote:ertainly round Nottingham many Notes persist because they remain relevant.  > > In Tendring poleclimber adds notes from planning applications. New > notes tend to get looked at by someone present on the osm-gb IRC > channel within a short time of them

Re: [Talk-GB] Local Authority rights of way information

2016-12-21 Thread Philip Barnes
On Wed, 2016-12-21 at 11:07 +, Chris Hill wrote: > Have any Local Authorities released their definitive maps or > statements under OGL? I want to know so I can use examples as a lever > to persuade East Riding of Yorkshire and Hull City councils to > release *anything* as open data.  > The

Re: [Talk-GB] Local Authority rights of way information

2016-12-21 Thread Philip Barnes
On Wed, 2016-12-21 at 10:39 +, Paul Berry wrote: > Hi everyone, > > As you probably know, local authorities must keep available an up-to- > date copy of rights of way for inspection. Can this information then > be incorporated into OSM, having been witnessed, or is it a case of > public but

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-GB] This is an auto-generated note from MAPS.ME application:

2016-12-19 Thread Philip Barnes
On Fri, 2016-12-09 at 12:54 +, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: > On 9 December 2016 at 11:49, Dave F > wrote: > > > > http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Peter%20Mount/notes > > > > They are all for the same entity. > > > > How can we stop this annoying

Re: [Talk-GB] [OSM-talk] This is an auto-generated note from MAPS.ME application:

2016-12-19 Thread Philip Barnes
On Fri, 2016-12-09 at 12:54 +, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: > On 9 December 2016 at 11:49, Dave F > wrote: > > > > http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Peter%20Mount/notes > > > > They are all for the same entity. > > > > How can we stop this annoying

Re: [Talk-GB] Ideas for quarterly projects

2016-12-06 Thread Philip Barnes
On Tue Dec 6 20:46:03 2016 GMT, Rob Nickerson wrote: > All great ideas. The trick for Q1 is to find one that will work well in the > cold weather. I'm not sure I know the answer to that but the idea of doing > Fixmes and Notes is interesting - it could through up literally anything! I > will

Re: [Talk-GB] Suspicious edits in Tarbrax, South Lanarkshire

2016-12-04 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sun, 2016-12-04 at 09:39 +, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: > Is there anyone with knowledge of South Lanarkshire that could take a > look at https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/43929865 and the > other > changesets by this user? It looks to me as if the user has added > fictitious

Re: [Talk-GB] Road classifications in Leicester

2016-11-29 Thread Philip Barnes
Reverted in http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/44047606 I do need to look at some of their other edits, whilst not so damaging as the ring road classification, there is a lot wrong. They have been very prolific. I think they slipped under my radar by doing their first single edit in

Re: [Talk-GB] Road classifications in Leicester

2016-11-29 Thread Philip Barnes
https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/1098 I will revert these changes to road classifications when I get home, at dominoes tonight. Phil (trigpoint) On Tue Nov 29 21:13:27 2016 GMT, Philip Barnes wrote: > I have requested a block, been going through their edits. They have made > e

Re: [Talk-GB] Road classifications in Leicester

2016-11-29 Thread Philip Barnes
I have requested a block, been going through their edits. They have made earlier road classification changes. Strange I didn't see them on my whodidit feed. Phil (trigpoint) On Tue Nov 29 20:05:49 2016 GMT, Andy Townsend wrote: > On 29/11/2016 19:54, Rob Nickerson wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > A

Re: [Talk-GB] Road classifications in Leicester

2016-11-29 Thread Philip Barnes
I was there a couple of weekends ago, there have certainly been no changes. Leicester is based around a trunk ring so these edits are damaging. As a local I would ask for a block if they are not responding. Phil (trigpoint) On Tue Nov 29 19:54:22 2016 GMT, Rob Nickerson wrote: > Hi all, > >

Re: [Talk-GB] FHRS and businesses run from home

2016-11-19 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sat Nov 19 16:48:23 2016 GMT, Andrew Hain wrote: > Some FHRS entries refer to people's names, or to business names, with the > address of a private house. These may be people who cook from home or > itinerantly. Is it however appropriate for OSM to map these addresses as > anything more than

Re: [Talk-GB] Missing Maps humanitarian mapping party in Liverpool on Thurs eve

2016-11-14 Thread Philip Barnes
Pity its such short notice and I have a lot on this week. For some reason the URLs are not clickable, could it be the <>. Phil (trigpoint) On Mon Nov 14 12:08:06 2016 GMT, Adrian McEwen wrote: > Following on from the HOTOSM mapping party advertised here a couple of > months back there's a

Re: [Talk-GB] Autumn Quarterly Project

2016-11-06 Thread Philip Barnes
Hi Greg There do seem to be a very large number in FHRS establishments with no matching OSM node/way that do have an OSM node. How is this match done? For example http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/318139689 Thanks Phil ___ Talk-GB mailing list

Re: [Talk-GB] Copyright and MAPS.ME android 6.2.5-Google

2016-10-04 Thread Philip Barnes
Maps.me is fine, as you suspect the google just means the app is from the play store, they were at SOTM. Phil (trigpoint) On Tue Oct 4 20:53:58 2016 GMT+0100, ael wrote: > On Tue, Oct 04, 2016 at 08:49:32PM +0100, ael wrote: > > I have just found a local cafe added to OSM by "MAPS.ME android >

Re: [Talk-GB] Talk-GB Digest, Vol 120, Issue 39

2016-09-27 Thread Philip Barnes
The link leads to a Liverpool Uni webmail login. You would increase the chances of OSMers attending if it was on a weekend. Phil (trigpoint) On Tue Sep 27 13:21:27 2016 GMT+0100, Margaux Meslé wrote: > Hello, > > This is to let people know that I am co-hosting a mapathon next Monday 3rd > of

[Talk-GB] Future quarterly project idea

2016-09-24 Thread Philip Barnes
I have just been listening to Rory McCann talking about mapping Irish Townlands and the challenges they faced obtaining the data and tracing it from historic OS maps. The townlands are admin_level=10 relations, the same level as our civil parishes. Its a lot easier in the UK, we have a source of

Re: [OSM-talk] The movie Eye in the Sky credits OpenStreetMap

2016-07-22 Thread Philip Barnes
I remember seeing an in the field history programme which was in London, can't remember the name but it was with Dan Snow. They used a big print os OSM, A0 plus I think. OSM was credited in the closing titles. Phil (trigpoint) On Fri Jul 22 08:12:16 2016 GMT+0100, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote:

Re: [OSM-talk] Can we utilise the popularity of Pokémon Go for OSM?

2016-07-14 Thread Philip Barnes
I have already reverted some poke stops and gyms, and that was before it was released. Now its been released,,today in the UK, we need to watch for this type of edit. Phil (trigpoint) On Thu Jul 14 12:57:26 2016 GMT+0100, Jóhannes Birgir Jensson wrote: > I've wondered about it but doubt it.

Re: [Talk-GB] OSMUK local chapter

2016-06-29 Thread Philip Barnes
On Wed, 2016-06-29 at 18:55 +0100, Rob Nickerson wrote: > Unity Trust has also been recommended to us. They support online > signing with definable limits and multiple signatories, and don't > charge a fee. > > https://www.unity.co.uk/ > The ramblers use unity trust, each group is supposed to.

Re: [OSM-talk] How to handle Maps.Me ?

2016-06-22 Thread Philip Barnes
On Thu, 2016-06-23 at 01:17 +0900, Max wrote: > The user experience of adding something to the maps.me map is quit > cool > actually. It's really satisfying to see something immediately nicely > rendered. I recommend to try it. > I did try a few edits earlier today, my first impression was how

Re: [OSM-talk] How to handle Maps.Me garbage?

2016-06-22 Thread Philip Barnes
On Wed Jun 22 14:52:40 2016 GMT+0100, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2016-06-22 15:13 GMT+02:00 Michael Reichert : > > > I decided not to write a changeset comment because it seems to me to > > be a waste of time to comment a Maps.Me user's changeset. > > > > > It is also a way

Re: [OSM-talk] MAPS.ME edits - partly sub-standard

2016-06-20 Thread Philip Barnes
I guess an example of what I am seeing as a poor quality edit, http://osm.org/changeset/40156579 An embassy called Rachel? Mistagging of a Monument? Phil (trigpoint) Phil On Mon Jun 20 12:52:13 2016 GMT+0100, Philip Barnes wrote: > On Mon, 2016-06-20 at 11:26 +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wr

Re: [OSM-talk] MAPS.ME edits - partly sub-standard

2016-06-20 Thread Philip Barnes
On Mon, 2016-06-20 at 11:26 +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > 2016-06-19 22:35 GMT+02:00 Ilya Zverev : > > As for the maps.me, I am glad that foreign names issue is basically > > the only one that most people agree on. > > > > there are lots of different issues, and even

Re: [Talk-GB] New user renaming highway=cycleway with NCN references

2016-05-08 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sun, 2016-05-08 at 13:11 +0100, Dave F wrote: > Did someone contact him, as he appears to be redacting. > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/38353814/history#map=15/55.4568/-3. > 6478 > I saw that Richard Fairhurst has added a changeset comment. Phil (trigpoint) > On 07/05/2016 22:21, Donald

Re: [Talk-GB] Leicester Haymarket new road layout

2016-04-28 Thread Philip Barnes
I can pm a local mapper who is normally pretty responsive. I rarely get into the city centre these days. Phil (trigpoint) On Thu Apr 28 09:51:27 2016 GMT+0100, Stuart Reynolds wrote: > Hi All, > > Are there any East Midlands mappers in the Leicester area who could update > the road &

Re: [Talk-GB] Mapbox imagery update

2016-04-27 Thread Philip Barnes
On Wed, 2016-04-27 at 16:13 +0100, Brian Prangle wrote: > Yep - echo the big disappointment with MapBox imagery. Perhaps when > we have OSMUK up and running we can lobby MapBox for some better and > newer imagery? > Imagery around Shropshire is certainly less than a year old, so a definite

Re: [Talk-GB] phone boxes used for other purposes

2016-04-18 Thread Philip Barnes
On Mon, 2016-04-18 at 18:52 +0100, Robert Norris wrote: > > > > From: jack.fitzsim...@ntlworld.com  > > To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org  > > Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2016 16:13:56 +0100  > > Subject: [Talk-GB] phone boxes used for other purposes  > >   > >   > > I’m sure it must have been discussed before

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland

2016-03-10 Thread Philip Barnes
On Thu Mar 10 21:48:45 2016 GMT, Colin Spiller wrote: > Isle of Man conspicuous by its absence The Isle of Man is neither part of the UK or Ireland Phil (trigpoint) > > Edward Betts wrote: > > >I've extended my search for matches between OSM and Wikidata again. It now >

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] [Talk-GB] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland

2016-03-10 Thread Philip Barnes
On Thu Mar 10 21:48:45 2016 GMT, Colin Spiller wrote: > Isle of Man conspicuous by its absence The Isle of Man is neither part of the UK or Ireland Phil (trigpoint) > > Edward Betts wrote: > > >I've extended my search for matches between OSM and Wikidata again. It now >

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland

2016-03-10 Thread Philip Barnes
What plans are there for maintenance of this data in future, it is a move away from human readable tags so errors will go unnoticed. Mappers are very unlikely to add new wikidata tags in the way we add Wikipedia. Phil (trigpoint) On Thu Mar 10 20:00:17 2016 GMT, Edward Betts wrote: > Dave F

Re: [OSM-talk] Guides to improve navigation data in OpenStreetMap

2016-03-10 Thread Philip Barnes
On Thu, 2016-03-10 at 11:24 -0600, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 8:56 AM, Abhishek Saikia > l.com> wrote: > > Hi Marc, > > > > Thank you for the kind words and prompt feedback. `turn:lanes` are > > exclusively for vehicles and as per discussion with the OSRM team > > here: 

Re: [Talk-us] How to tag Edible Arrangements?

2016-03-02 Thread Philip Barnes
I would start with shop=confectionary and then add some sub-tags. Phil (trigpoint) On Wed Mar 2 11:15:21 2016 GMT, Tod Fitch wrote: > There is an Edible Arrangements [1] shop near by that I tagged with only name > and and the phone number found on the door. I could not figure out what type >

Re: [Talk-GB] New users and P2

2016-02-26 Thread Philip Barnes
On Fri Feb 26 11:23:34 2016 GMT, David Woolley wrote: > On 25/02/16 17:04, Nick Whitelegg wrote: > > > > > User can also enter relevant POIs like stiles, gates etc when they are > > encountered. > > > > > > When user returns home, track simplification algorithm used to make a > > way from the GPX

Re: [Talk-GB] New users and P2

2016-02-25 Thread Philip Barnes
he developers (the only two?). They appear resentful to many of > the suggestions for improvement. > > From memory Richard F. was a developer in the start up of iD, Is he > still involved? > > Dave F. > > > > On 25/02/2016 09:30, Philip Barnes wrote: > > &

Re: [Talk-GB] London bus lanes

2016-02-25 Thread Philip Barnes
On Thu Feb 25 13:24:40 2016 GMT, Dave F wrote: > I believe visibility of the lanes isn't necessarily the problem, but the > tagging scheme. Actually, I should say schemes; quite difficult to > memorise the differences. And that's before finding out if taxis, > motorbike, bicycles or even cars

Re: [Talk-GB] New users and P2

2016-02-25 Thread Philip Barnes
homes and schools. Phil (trigpoint) > On 25 Feb 2016 09:31, "Philip Barnes" <p...@trigpoint.me.uk> wrote: > > > > > > > On Thu Feb 25 06:43:23 2016 GMT, Andy Robinson wrote: > > > I noticed that too Rob. Day before yesterday they all seemed to star

Re: [Talk-GB] New users and P2

2016-02-25 Thread Philip Barnes
On Thu Feb 25 06:43:23 2016 GMT, Andy Robinson wrote: > I noticed that too Rob. Day before yesterday they all seemed to start at the > same time so I assumed it was uni students. > We spotted them as new users from the bot that reports in #osm-gb. They were spread over the country, I assume

Re: [Talk-GB] place=village/town/city

2016-02-12 Thread Philip Barnes
On Fri Feb 12 13:52:13 2016 GMT, Andy Townsend wrote: > > which makes it clear why using the "legal city definition" might not > make sense in OSM _across the board_. It might in some places (it's > essentially what the Irish do, I believe), but I'd argue it doesn't here > because of e.g.

Re: [Talk-GB] place=village/town/city

2016-02-12 Thread Philip Barnes
On Fri, 2016-02-12 at 14:53 +, Philip Barnes wrote: > On Fri Feb 12 13:52:13 2016 GMT, Andy Townsend wrote: I'd be interested to see the history of St David's.  The current node http://osm.mapki.com/history/node.php?id=3712052604 was only created in August 2015; I wonder w

Re: [Talk-GB] What sport is this? #osmschools

2016-02-06 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sat, 2016-02-06 at 13:54 +, Dave F wrote: > Hi > > Bing aerial map: > http://binged.it/1STgxSc > > While doing the schools project I've come across this grid layout on > a  > few occasions & I'm curious what activity/sport it's used for. > > Who's got teenage kids that would know? >

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