Re: [talk-au] farm airstrips

2024-04-29 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Especially with the "runway" apparently going through a tree & 2 fences! Thanks Graeme On Mon, 29 Apr 2024 at 18:36, Andrew Welch via Talk-au < talk-au@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > Considering there's also a "hanger" there that doesn't seem to be visible > on any aerial imagery I just checked,

Re: [talk-au] Question about using NSW Speed Zone Data in OSM

2024-03-06 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
lcome any suggestions or further discussion that would contribute to ensuring the accuracy of our edits." Don't know if that answers the questions you have? I've suggested that they set up an account here to talk about what they are doing. Thanks Graeme On Tue, 27 Feb 2024 at 11:36, Graeme F

[talk-au] Mass Edit Proposal - South Australia's Arterial Traffic Network

2024-03-02 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Please have a look at https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/mass-edit-proposal-south-australias-arterial-traffic-network/110006/2 & comment if you wish. NB I am only posting this to get the word out, the proposal has nothing at all to do with me! Thanks Graeme

Re: [talk-au] Deletion of informal paths by NSW NPWS

2024-02-29 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
eat their edits like vandalism (and just revert > their deletions) until they actually work with us. > > Thanks, > Andrew Welch > m...@andrewwelch.net > > > On Thu, 29 Feb 2024 at 8:13 pm, Graeme Fitzpatrick > wrote: > >> I've yet had no response back from Steph

Re: [talk-au] Deletion of informal paths by NSW NPWS

2024-02-29 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
I've yet had no response back from Stephen Stenberg re Slate Falls Lookout, after I basically repeated what you all had already said to him :-( Thanks Graeme On Thu, 29 Feb 2024 at 10:51, Andrew Welch via Talk-au < talk-au@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > The user who's edits were revered by

Re: [talk-au] Deletion of informal paths by NSW NPWS

2024-02-27 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Thanks Frederik! Had spotted that earlier & was going to ask if anybody could confirm it, but got caught up with other stuff. Thanks Graeme On Tue, 27 Feb 2024 at 19:56, Frederik Ramm wrote: > I haven't followed this thread and I don't know if this is relevant to > the discussion but I have

Re: [talk-au] Question about using NSW Speed Zone Data in OSM

2024-02-26 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Message sent to User pointing out the OE Guidelines & also asking for their sources. To f/up next week. Thanks Graeme On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 at 22:10, Andy Townsend wrote: > On 21/02/2024 11:45, Mark Pulley wrote: > > I’ve got some further info on how this user has been editing (see comment >

Re: [talk-au] Deletion of informal paths by NSW NPWS

2024-02-25 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
It would be interesting to see what Strava shows, so yes, please, Tom, I'd like to see the OT link. Thanks Graeme On Sun, 25 Feb 2024 at 22:22, Tom Brennan wrote: > I thought I'd see if the tagging details in the US Trail Access Project > link might be useful for Australia. > > I tagged all

Re: [talk-au] Deletion of informal paths by NSW NPWS

2024-02-21 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Feb 2024 at 16:44, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > Message resent regarding proposed Liaison Officer & also confirming track > in question. > > Awaiting response. > > Thanks > > Graeme > > > On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 at 17:16, Phil Wyatt wrote: > >> I

Re: [talk-au] Deletion of informal paths by NSW NPWS

2024-02-20 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Message resent regarding proposed Liaison Officer & also confirming track in question. Awaiting response. Thanks Graeme On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 at 17:16, Phil Wyatt wrote: > I have also contacted Stephen privately to see if he wants to chat > > > > Cheers - Phil >

Re: [talk-au] Deletion of informal paths by NSW NPWS

2024-02-19 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
NPWS have now contacted DWG again. I was in the process of responding to his comments, was up to ~10 paragraphs, then hit the wrong button in our DWG system & deleted the lot!!! :-( That's well & truly enough for today so I'll try again (after trying to remember what I said!) tomorrow. Thanks

Re: [talk-au] New tags for Vic State Forests

2024-01-06 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Sounds good to me! Thanks Graeme On Sun, 7 Jan 2024 at 11:15, Andrew Davidson wrote: > I would leave off boundary=protected_area until they have IUCN > Categories assigned. It doesn't add any more information than > leisure=nature_reserve. > > On Sun, Jan 7, 2024 at 11:52 AM Little Maps

Re: [talk-au] Deletion of informal paths by NSW NPWS

2024-01-02 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Thanks, fellas! There's my new thing I've learnt today! :-) Thanks Graeme On Wed, 3 Jan 2024 at 09:25, Andy Townsend wrote: > On 02/01/2024 22:03, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > Only thought there is should the note= possibly be a description= ? > > > > Notes are on

Re: [talk-au] Deletion of informal paths by NSW NPWS

2024-01-02 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
of this discussion. > > Any objections / changes before I go ahead? > > Mark P. > > On 18 Dec 2023, at 8:22 am, Graeme Fitzpatrick > wrote: > > So access=discouraged may be the best answer, possibly together with a > hazard= tag? > > Incidentally, I ne

Re: [talk-au] Deletion of informal paths by NSW NPWS

2023-12-17 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
So access=discouraged may be the best answer, possibly together with a hazard= tag? Incidentally, I never heard back from the NPWS bloke who wanted to set-up an OSM liasion contact. Thanks Graeme On Sun, 17 Dec 2023 at 20:02, Mark Pulley wrote: > I’m not aware of any restriction regarding

Re: [talk-au] Nowra bridge help

2023-12-14 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Bob So the western bridge is now northbound & the "middle" bridge is south? Thanks Graeme On Fri, 15 Dec 2023 at 08:06, Bob Cameron wrote: > Wonder if someone might fix this one. Don't want to stuff it up > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map=17/-34.86388/150.60252 > > The main

Re: [talk-au] Maranda or Maranoa Road

2023-12-10 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
sed up with my > login name.. > > Cheers > On 11/12/23 14:02, Nev W wrote: > > Thanks Graeme. Will correct it soon. > Nev > > On 11 Dec 2023, at 12:49 pm, Graeme Fitzpatrick > wrote: > > Qld Geocoder says Maranoa > > > > ___

Re: [talk-au] Maranda or Maranoa Road

2023-12-10 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Nev Qld Geocoder says Maranoa https://apps.information.qld.gov.au/data/cadastre/GenerateSmartMap?q=32\EG14 https://apps.information.qld.gov.au/data/cadastre/GenerateSmartMap?q=2\SP124668 Thanks Graeme On Mon, 11 Dec 2023 at 12:19, Nev W wrote: > I checked the QSpatial State Controlled

Re: [talk-au] OSM - NSW NPWS liaison

2023-11-02 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
; > >> I guess the best is that we could detail a preferred approach (e.g. in > >> Australian tagging guidelines). I think it's clear that there are a > number > >> of views on this though. > >> > >> Then at least if something happens that diffe

Re: [talk-au] OSM - NSW NPWS liaison

2023-11-01 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
gt; > > > Then at least if something happens that differs from the preferred > approach, it makes it clearer whether a revert is justified. > > > > - Ben. > > > > > > On Thu, 2 Nov 2023 at 14:57, Graeme Fitzpatrick > wrote: > > DWG have

Re: [talk-au] OSM - NSW NPWS liaison

2023-11-01 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
es it clearer whether a revert is justified. > > - Ben. > > > On Thu, 2 Nov 2023 at 14:57, Graeme Fitzpatrick > wrote: > >> DWG have received a >> "*Request for a Liaison Officer*: >> To enhance the accuracy of OpenStreetMap data pertaining to the NS

[talk-au] OSM - NSW NPWS liaison

2023-11-01 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
DWG have received a "*Request for a Liaison Officer*: To enhance the accuracy of OpenStreetMap data pertaining to the NSW National Parks and Wildlife Service" This has come up in regard to tracks that they say they have previously requested be deleted (I'm contacting them to confirm just which?)

Re: [talk-au] Deletion of informal paths by NSW NPWS

2023-10-22 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
nstreetmap.org/edit?note=3942697#map=18/-32.95437/151.74519 > > which are tagged as disused, don't appear in Strava! > > https://www.strava.com/heatmap#18.18/151.74460/-32.95468/hot/run > > > > Thanks > > > > Graeme > > > > > > On Mon, 9 Oct 2023

Re: [talk-au] Deletion of informal paths by NSW NPWS

2023-10-22 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
ttps://www.strava.com/heatmap#18.18/151.74460/-32.95468/hot/run Thanks Graeme On Mon, 9 Oct 2023 at 10:08, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > In regard to Strava, it would be very handy if they read OSM access data & > removed traces from their map when tracks are changed to access=no. > &g

Re: [talk-au] emergency highway airstrips

2023-10-17 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Tue, 17 Oct 2023 at 19:38, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > Present location of highway_strip... > > > https://overpass-turbo.eu/?w=%22aeroway%22%3D%22highway_strip%22+in+Australia > Having a look at them & some possible issues? https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/957372815 &

Re: [talk-au] emergency highway airstrips

2023-10-16 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Mon, 16 Oct 2023 at 22:50, Ian Steer via Talk-au < talk-au@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/187347278#map=15/-31.9089/127.0839= Should it be layer=1? Thanks Graeme ___ Talk-au mailing list

Re: [talk-au] emergency highway airstrips

2023-10-16 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
& by an amazingly scary co-incidence, I was just reading another forum which mentioned these two videos! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK10UiizJF8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZktxR5xAX1I Thanks Graeme On Tue, 17 Oct 2023 at 07:28, Andrew Davidson wrote: >

Re: [talk-au] How to efficiently improve AU address coverage?

2023-10-15 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Do we need the country, city & post code fields? Thanks Graeme On Mon, 16 Oct 2023 at 12:23, Yuchen Pei wrote: > On Tue 2023-10-03 19:51:13 +1100, Warin wrote: > > > On 3/10/23 14:27, Andrew Harvey wrote: > > > [... 12 lines elided] > > > OK, what is needed to be done for "Stage 2 -

Re: [talk-au] Deletion of informal paths by NSW NPWS

2023-10-08 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
In regard to Strava, it would be very handy if they read OSM access data & removed traces from their map when tracks are changed to access=no. Thanks Graeme On Mon, 9 Oct 2023 at 09:47, Andrew Harvey wrote: > > > On Mon, 2 Oct 2023 at 14:19, Ben Ritter wrote: > >> I agree with all of this.

Re: [talk-au] Deletion of informal paths by NSW NPWS

2023-10-08 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
& for some reason, Andy's reply didn't appear in my email until after I sent my own saying more or less the same thing? Thanks Graeme On Mon, 9 Oct 2023 at 08:58, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > > > On Sun, 8 Oct 2023 at 23:12, Adam Steer wrote: > >> >> It's

Re: [talk-au] Deletion of informal paths by NSW NPWS

2023-10-08 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sun, 8 Oct 2023 at 23:12, Adam Steer wrote: > > It's not even controversial that NSW NPWS would remove informal trails > from OSM. Heck, I would. I'd also get smart, and start to ask OSM to revoke > accounts of repeat trail remappers. > Not disagreeing with you, Adam, but if the track has

[talk-au] Fwd: Classifying settlements (Was Re: Filling in blank space (Was Re: Tagging towns by relative importance, not just population size))

2023-10-05 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
& re-sending to the list! Thanks Graeme -- Forwarded message - From: Graeme Fitzpatrick Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2023 at 13:08 Subject: Re: [talk-au] Classifying settlements (Was Re: Filling in blank space (Was Re: Tagging towns by relative importance, not just population

Re: [talk-au] Classifying settlements (Was Re: Filling in blank space (Was Re: Tagging towns by relative importance, not just population size))

2023-10-05 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Thanks Ian & Steve Looking at the numbers from a Qld perspective, I'd go inbetween the two samples! e.g. Hamlet <250 Village 250-1000 Town 1000-15000 City 15000< Which would produce https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1Bup It also becomes obvious that there are quite a few places with no population

Re: [talk-au] Classifying settlements (Was Re: Filling in blank space (Was Re: Tagging towns by relative importance, not just population size))

2023-10-04 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
public meetings, dances etc! Thanks Graeme On Wed, 4 Oct 2023 at 09:08, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > On Tue, 3 Oct 2023 at 18:45, Andrew Davidson wrote: > >> apply the Fitzpatrick adjustment: >> > > I like it! :-) > > Although Fizzie Fuzziness has a better ring

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: Filling in blank space (Was Re: Tagging towns by relative importance, not just population size)

2023-10-01 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Mon, 2 Oct 2023 at 14:27, stevea wrote: > Whoops, meant to send this to the list, I sent it to Graeme only. > I've done the same myself recently, when I've forgotten that the AU list has to reply-all! The forum is much easier that way :-) Thanks Graeme PS & thanks for your input, Steve!

Re: [talk-au] Filling in blank space (Was Re: Tagging towns by relative importance, not just population size)

2023-10-01 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Thanks for that, Ian! & yes On Mon, 2 Oct 2023 at 11:56, Little Maps wrote: > It'd be great to develop some clear guidelines to guide future changes. > It would be! Thanks Graeme ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] How to efficiently improve AU address coverage?

2023-10-01 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sun, 1 Oct 2023 at 21:34, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > Then simply the major cities of Brisbane Brisbane itself is already done via an import of BCC data a few years ago, but this is only "Brisbane" itself, not the surrounding "cities" Thanks Graeme

Re: [talk-au] Filling in blank space (Was Re: Tagging towns by relative importance, not just population size)

2023-10-01 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
ething.. > > They have spent a lot on the campsite too. Newish amenities and hot > showers for $5/n in 5/21. > > Cheers Bob > On 1/10/23 10:31, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > Oh look - Windorah is there, so it must be important after

Re: [talk-au] Tagging towns by relative importance, not just population size

2023-09-30 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Light bulb moment! I could always ask my brother, who works at ABS! :-) Thanks Graeme On Sun, 1 Oct 2023 at 09:37, Andrew Davidson wrote: > On 1/10/23 10:28, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > > > I'm reading that as ATSI communities of any size are counted? > > Yes. The

Re: [talk-au] Filling in blank space (Was Re: Tagging towns by relative importance, not just population size)

2023-09-30 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Oh look - Windorah is there, so it must be important after all! :-) Thanks Graeme On Sun, 1 Oct 2023 at 09:26, Andrew Davidson wrote: > On 29/9/23 20:22, Warin wrote: > > > I did meet some English 4WD world travellers that had a world map. In > the > > north west corner of Australia was

Re: [talk-au] Tagging towns by relative importance, not just population size

2023-09-30 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sun, 1 Oct 2023 at 09:10, Andrew Davidson wrote: > > This is what the ABS does. > Interesting, even if somewhat deep! I noticed though: " Discrete Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander communities and discrete tourist resorts with a population exceeding 1,000 are considered to be Urban

Re: [talk-au] Tagging towns by relative importance, not just population size

2023-09-28 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Good conversation, thanks, everyone! On Thu, 28 Sept 2023 at 20:04, Andrew Davidson wrote: > > Err downtown Rathdowney has a population of 161.I might be OK with > village, but it's a bit of a stretch to call it a town. > I was looking at

Re: [talk-au] Tagging towns by relative importance, not just population size

2023-09-27 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
in it? Thanks Graeme > > > > > On Thu, 28 Sep 2023, at 9:08 AM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > Thanks! > > > > Yes, it probably shouldn't be a one size fits all equation. > > > > Against what you said, Rathdowney in SEQ, with ~1800 people, only has

Re: [talk-au] Tagging towns by relative importance, not just population size

2023-09-27 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
ndred kilometres for shopping, health > care etc. I find it very misleading to label these places as towns, just > because they are the largest settlements in their respective vicinities. > The towns are the places where people go to get the goods and services they > need. > > > >

Re: [talk-au] Tagging towns by relative importance, not just population size

2023-09-27 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Wed, 27 Sept 2023 at 16:29, Ian Sergeant wrote: > Aren't most places classified by the government authority as > cities/villages/towns/localities/suburbs? > Possibly so, but they don't necessarily match what OSM says! Is it done by population currently? I didn't think so.. > Not by Govt,

[talk-au] Tagging towns by relative importance, not just population size

2023-09-26 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Have just raised this for discussion on both the Forum & Discord, so also throwing it out here. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Australian_Tagging_Guidelines#Tagging_towns_by_relative_importance%2C_not_just_population_size Any thoughts or comments welcome, in any place! Thanks Graeme

Re: [talk-au] Deletion of informal paths by NSW NPWS

2023-09-22 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Nicely put, Phil! :-) Agree with everything you say. Thanks Graeme On Fri, 22 Sept 2023 at 16:43, Phil Wyatt wrote: > Hi Folks, > > > > Personally, I believe if the managing agency requests that the tracks be > removed from the map then as good corporate citizens we should do > everything

Re: [talk-au] Putting streams into OSM

2023-05-27 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sat, 27 May 2023 at 16:34, Tom Brennan wrote: > > But while useful, the question is really whether a full stream import is > worthwhile. > I would say yes (if it's not too much effort required to do so?) Thanks Graeme ___ Talk-au mailing list

Re: [talk-au] Putting streams into OSM

2023-05-25 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Thu, 25 May 2023 at 22:26, Tom Brennan wrote: > I'm looking at adding missing stream data in national parks around Sydney. > > However, how much value is there in bringing in all of the stream data > in say the DCS Base Map vs just the named streams? > > I can see for example, the value in

Re: [talk-au] Murray River relation deletion?

2023-05-22 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Have spotted a bit of a similar issue here: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/6168517#map=13/-28.0105/153.4332, which has a natural river & a few "streams" running through lots of dredged out canals e.g. https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/593943553#map=13/-28.0018/153.3810. Does this really

Re: [talk-au] Tasmania Spatial Data

2023-05-04 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Awesome work, thanks, Phil! :-) Thanks Graeme On Fri, 5 May 2023 at 10:09, Phil Wyatt wrote: > Hi Folks, > > > > Just a heads up that we have recently obtained a waiver for *a limited > subset of* data from the LIST Open Data portal ( > https://listdata.thelist.tas.gov.au/opendata/). Data

Re: [talk-au] Why set coast line to nation park or, administrative boundaries?

2023-03-31 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Don't know if this helps. or makes it worse! Had a thought so looked at Gold Coast Council's online city plan, where I know that a National Park touches the shore: https://cityplan.goldcoast.qld.gov.au/eplan/property/41NPW429/0/184?_t=property compared to what we have

Re: [talk-au] Why set coast line to nation park or administrative boundaries?

2023-03-30 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 at 17:15, cleary wrote: > > I'm uncertain about the terms of use of the government data but, > generally, when reproducing another person or organisation's resources > (images, text etc) with permission, one is required not to distort that > resource so as to not embarrass

Re: [talk-au] Why set coast line to nation park or administrative boundaries?

2023-03-29 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Wed, 29 Mar 2023 at 20:25, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > As for the administrative boundaries .. the present official view is > that local councils cannot now sell 'land' between the high tide and low > tide, however they have in the past. > > What the state of this 'land' between

Re: [talk-au] [OSGeo Oceania] OpenStreetMap Special Interest Group Charter

2023-03-24 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Hi Wondering what the current situation is in regard to the OSM SIG? Thanks Graeme On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 at 16:30, Edoardo Neerhut wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I wanted to put out a reminder that there is a meeting tomorrow at 12:00 > pm UTC +11 to discuss a charter for an OpenStreetMap Special

Re: [talk-au] Adoption of OSM geometry as state mapping base

2023-03-06 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Hi Rob Response received from Legal: " The OSM Terms of Use do not impose any addition restrictions on the use of the OpenStreetMap geodatabase beyond the terms of ODbL. We do prohibit the emergencies services and anything similarly time-sensitive from using OSM Services directly because OSM

[talk-au] Re Truck low gear areas

2023-03-05 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Following on from our discussions re slopes & low gear areas t'other week, spotted this one mentioned in the Newsletter: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Key:hazard=0=2370057#Slope,_uphill_and_downhill Thanks Graeme ___ Talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Mapping tracks from Strava heatmap

2023-02-27 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
I must admit to using Strava the other way around. If somebody leaves a Note to say that "there's another track here" or "this track is closer to the creek", I'll often look at Strava, & add / move the track based on it's results. Thanks Graeme On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 at 17:57, Little Maps

Re: [talk-au] Tagging Culverts on Roads

2023-02-20 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Tue, 21 Feb 2023 at 13:54, Andrew Hughes wrote: > Yes... > > > https://vicroadsopendata-vicroadsmaps.opendata.arcgis.com/datasets/ef496e07eae049a3bb94351bc496dd6a_0/explore?location=-36.518496%2C145.313781%2C7.55 > > https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/4.0/ > Sorry, Andrew, but

Re: [talk-au] [Impersonated Sender] Re: Map feedback - Australia

2023-02-17 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Thanks for that, Salim. Another question, though. I assume that the edit in OSM will show as being made by one of the TT team, not by the person who said "there's a problem here". If I, who has previously mapped that spot, want to then query the change you've made, what are your procedures for

Re: [talk-au] Adoption of OSM geometry as state mapping base

2023-02-11 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sat, 11 Feb 2023 at 20:37, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > I think there are some emergency services in Europe using OSM data already > .. so if I am correct then it is possible (as it should be in a reasonable > world). > Yeah, I've previously seen comments from people in the US that

Re: [talk-au] Adoption of OSM geometry as state mapping base

2023-02-09 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Hi Rob Awesome news, thanks! :-) Those concerns will have to be bounced to OSM Legal, so I'll forward both your messages to me for comment. Thanks Graeme On Fri, 10 Feb 2023 at 10:41, rob potter wrote: > Hi, > > I am representing the state transport department Department of Transport > and

Re: [talk-au] Tagging Culverts on Roads

2023-02-09 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Thu, 9 Feb 2023 at 12:31, Andrew Hughes wrote: > And each culvert has a unique asset/ref identification (example Victorian > Dept of Transport, Structure Number == SN2252) > > Sorry to be awkward, but do we have permission to use that data? Thanks Graeme

Re: [talk-au] Tagging Trucks (hgv) "Use low gears"

2023-02-07 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Does it need the "7k" in there as well? Thanks Graeme On Wed, 8 Feb 2023 at 13:54, Andrew Harvey wrote: > > > On Wed, 8 Feb 2023 at 12:44, Andrew Hughes wrote: > >> >> Looking good. Given... >> >> Node: traffic_sign=AU:R6-22 >> https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3227568911 >> >> Way:

Re: [talk-au] Tagging Trucks (hgv) "Use low gears"

2023-01-17 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Wed, 18 Jan 2023 at 09:38, Andrew Hughes wrote: > > The https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:hazard#Traffic_hazards tag > seems very appropriate but in my mind, needs a :hgv namespace. > I wondered about putting exactly that but then thought that the sign usually / often mentions buses

Re: [talk-au] Tagging Trucks (hgv) "Use low gears"

2023-01-16 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Tue, 17 Jan 2023 at 10:40, Andrew Hughes wrote: > There are other signage like "No Engine Breaking", could anyone propose a > convention inline with the above that could be extended for such additional > signage? > Answering in reverse! I thought I remembered something about "quiet zones"

Re: [talk-au] 'Named' EV chargers

2022-12-25 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Maybe just name them as Tesla Charger at this Place 1, 2, 3 & so on? Thanks Graeme On Mon, 26 Dec 2022 at 09:00, Ian Steer wrote: > I also agree - but if there are several superchargers at the same location, > do they all get the same name? (probably) > > Ian > > On 16 December 2022 1:33:21

Re: [talk-au] 'Named' EV chargers

2022-12-15 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 at 08:58, Phil Wyatt wrote: > > > There are some well attributed chargers out there - > https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/7814409569/ > I'd question having the actual $ cost listed, rather than just fee=yes? We tag servo's as having 91, 98 & diesel, but we don't attempt to

Re: [talk-au] TomTom Roadrunner

2022-11-02 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
They have responded now on Discord, so all good. Thanks Graeme On Wed, 2 Nov 2022 at 14:54, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > Over on Discord, I've mentioned a few "peculiarities" that I've spotted > with regard to Roadrunner traces, but not had any response, so they've &g

Re: [talk-au] Melbourne - Suburban Rail Loop - Too early to mark as under construction?

2022-11-02 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
tion) and may affect > formal/informal right of way, particular to foot traffic. > > Mike > > On 2022-11-01 23:07, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > Similar question here on the GC with the latest stage of the Light Rail. > > They've now started "utility works" - relocati

Re: [talk-au] power=edge_server

2022-11-02 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Thu, 3 Nov 2022 at 06:04, Michael James wrote: > This dataset is not any sort of computing system, they have copied the > ACMA mobile network tower information and called it research. > > > > This is of course going to be a licensing issue. > But from the Github mentioned above "

[talk-au] TomTom Roadrunner

2022-11-01 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Over on Discord, I've mentioned a few "peculiarities" that I've spotted with regard to Roadrunner traces, but not had any response, so they've possibly stopped following on there? Just in case there's any TomTom rep's still on here, here's another one that I've just spotted:

Re: [talk-au] Melbourne - Suburban Rail Loop - Too early to mark as under construction?

2022-11-01 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Similar question here on the GC with the latest stage of the Light Rail. They've now started "utility works" - relocating power poles & conduits, sewer & water manholes, removing some trees etc. When should the "proposed" line get updated to "under construction"? Now, or only when they actually

Re: [talk-au] Import Telstra Payphones

2022-10-27 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Hi Marc Have just commented on the changeset that looking on their website shows: https://www.telstra.com.au/terms-of-use#copyright, which would certainly seem to say that we can't use this info? In that case, it may be safer to revert all of this until we have further info? Thanks Graeme On

Re: [talk-au] Road centerline?

2022-10-11 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
few and they have all been a straight line through parts > where the highway is segregated or a straight line through roundabouts and > associated with freight routes. > > > On 11 Oct 2022, at 5:26 pm, Graeme Fitzpatrick > wrote: > > Message left on one of their changesets

Re: [talk-au] Tagging fire stations

2022-10-11 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 at 18:26, Ewen Hill wrote: > > Is there any State data we could use? > Mentioned earlier that I found https://www.data.qld.gov.au/dataset/rural- fire-stations/resource/e09d0d06-b13e-4e52-b82d-1ce0cf05927c, but we'd probably have to contact them for permission. Thanks

Re: [talk-au] So, should we request an Oceania Community Channel?

2022-10-11 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
That's something I'd definitely like to see. Thanks Graeme On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 at 21:47, Adam Steer wrote: > Hi DIan > > To me it makes sense to have an "Oceania" community listed here: > https://community.openstreetmap.org/c/communities/9/none > > Thanks, > > Adam > >

Re: [talk-au] Road centerline?

2022-10-11 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
verpass-turbo.eu/s/1mE4 > > > > Cheers - Phil > > > > *From:* Graeme Fitzpatrick > *Sent:* Tuesday, 11 October 2022 5:15 PM > *To:* Nev W > *Cc:* OSM-Au > *Subject:* Re: [talk-au] Road centerline? > > > > Thanks, Nev! > > > > Looks like the next pr

Re: [talk-au] Road centerline?

2022-10-11 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
only checked Australia but assume there would be others elsewhere > > https://imgur.com/a/FVFsa4l > > On 11 Oct 2022, at 3:23 pm, Graeme Fitzpatrick > wrote: > > Just spotted this: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/679847388 > > What's a "ro

[talk-au] Road centerline?

2022-10-10 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Just spotted this: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/679847388 What's a "road=cent*er*line [sic]"? Thanks Graeme ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Next tagging clean up project

2022-10-10 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Mon, 10 Oct 2022 at 18:10, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > The name of the station/brigade/* goes on the 'plot' not the building. > > I'm not certain of the operator tags - I think only on the amenity/plot > not on the building .. ? > Both of those are how I currently do it, except in

Re: [talk-au] Cycle permissions by a user

2022-10-10 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Yep, all visible, thanks, Tony. Certainly appears to show that the south side of Hummingbird is a signed shared path. Thanks Graeme On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 at 07:38, wrote: > Hi > The Mapillary is partially processed, it may not appear on the > worldmap yet but hopefully this link gives access

Re: [talk-au] Tagging fire stations

2022-10-09 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Mon, 10 Oct 2022 at 09:27, Mark Rattigan wrote: > > There are also plenty of minor RFS brigades which operate out of buildings > that weren't originally built to be fire stations. > But how then do we tag all of those where the firies operate out of a tin shed? Is it a

Re: [talk-au] Next tagging clean up project

2022-10-09 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sun, 9 Oct 2022 at 19:14, Phil Wyatt wrote: > > > Should it always be the case that the ‘plot’ on which the fire station > building resides is the ‘amenity’ and the ‘building’ should be separate > within the plot? To me, its not 100% clear in the wiki’s. > That was the way I thought it was

Re: [talk-au] Cycle permissions by a user

2022-10-09 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sun, 9 Oct 2022 at 21:21, Sebastian Azagra via Talk-au < talk-au@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > This was had no visible sign to indicate it was a shared way but it is > tagged as a shared way in OSM. > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/903736648#map=17/-38.15145/145.29173 > With no street image

Re: [talk-au] Cycle permissions by a user

2022-10-08 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
To open another can of worms, just spotted this linked from discussions on a completely different proposal: https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/use-of-bicycle-designated-vs-bicycle-yes-outside-of-germany/3230/23 So, what is the relation between designated & yes? Thanks Graeme

Re: [talk-au] Cycle permissions by a user

2022-10-07 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Would a simple bicycle=unknown / not specified work? Or does that not go through to the map? Thanks Graeme ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Cycle permissions by a user

2022-10-07 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Doing some looking & found this site: http://lgam.wikidot.com/footpath Some of definitions it mentions are: The Glossary of Austroads Terms defines a footpath as a "public way reserved for the movement of pedestrians and of manually propelled

Re: [talk-au] AFL goal post tag

2022-10-03 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
65 uses of "goalposts", but I'm not sure how they would actually be tagged? https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/goalposts#values Turns out, purely as goalposts=2, at least in a couple of samples! https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/962060329 Lots of them around Hong Kong, so possibly only one

Re: [talk-au] Proposed Bulk Edit: Road Route Numbering.

2022-10-01 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sat, 1 Oct 2022 at 20:51, Dian Ågesson wrote: > I will continue updating relations where I can, but any help would be > greatly appreciated tagging highway segments. > Happy to help where I can, Dian. What's involved? Thanks Graeme ___ Talk-au

Re: [talk-au] "Wrong" phone numbers

2022-09-24 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Thanks! Both wikis & the Oz guidelines updated appropriately: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines/Australian_features#Phonewords Thanks Graeme On Sun, 25 Sept 2022 at 11:48, stevea wrote: > Solutions abound! > > There is a pesky "only in this country toll-free

Re: [talk-au] "Wrong" phone numbers

2022-09-24 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Wyatt wrote: > > Personally, I would just do the 6 as the others are redundant > > > > *From:* Graeme Fitzpatrick > *Sent:* Thursday, 22 September 2022 3:47 PM > *To:* OSM-Au > *Subject:* [talk-au] "Wrong" phone numbers > > > > Just fixing a Note

[talk-au] "Wrong" phone numbers

2022-09-21 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Just fixing a Note, & the company's phone number is listed on their website as 1300 xx xx, as they have their name in it. If you dial it though, the system will ignore the last two digits, as the first 10 make a valid number So how do we map it? Phone numbers are supposed to be formatted as

Re: [talk-au] Proposed Bulk Edit: Road Route Numbering.

2022-09-20 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Sounds OK as far as I am concerned, thanks, Dian. Go for it! Thanks Graeme On Tue, 20 Sept 2022 at 20:18, Dian Ågesson wrote: > Hello list, > > You may recall earlier this month the road route tagging guidelines were > updated to adopt the "AU:" country prefix in the network field. >

[talk-au] Mapping planned light rail routes

2022-09-15 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Work is due to start "soon" on the next extension of the GC Light Rail route. Details have been published about where it will be going, & where the stations will be located, site offices are now appearing & physical work is supposed to start later this year. At what stage do we map this, & what

Re: [talk-au] Usage of Openstreetmap at EMSINA

2022-09-14 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Thanks all for thoughts, including yours from over there, Steve! It may be worth approaching "Fire & Rescue" in each State to ask them directly? A bit of feedback from another forum, says that in NSW the RFS still use a lot of paper maps, although I of them thinks that officially a system called

Re: [talk-au] Usage of Openstreetmap at EMSINA

2022-09-12 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
of hills because there > is one flaw in all of this. > > Ewen > > On Wed, 31 Aug 2022 at 10:10, Graeme Fitzpatrick > wrote: > >> >> >> >> On Mon, 29 Aug 2022 at 20:42, Michael Collinson wrote: >> >>> >>> I'll ask a mate in t

Re: [talk-au] TomTom - OSM Collaboration

2022-09-07 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Hi Will On Wed, 7 Sept 2022 at 10:14, William Ireland wrote: > Some initial ideas include but are not limited to providing leads from > media sources extracted by our web scraping tool or locating missing > highways from new housing developments. > > > > We would love to hear from you. What do

Re: [talk-au] Usage of Openstreetmap at EMSINA

2022-08-30 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Mon, 29 Aug 2022 at 20:42, Michael Collinson wrote: > > I'll ask a mate in the Victoria CFA. > Son has a mate in Qld RFS so got him to ask last night. "It's a QFES app for iPads, that's slowly rolling out to RFS as well. Fully interactive, they can draw fire fronts over a map and other

Re: [talk-au] Adopting AU prefix in route network

2022-08-28 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
A bit connected to this, possibly? Coming home from a trip away this morning, & spotted a new road sign that I haven't seen before. We were on Mt Lindsay Hwy just north of Rathdowney, somewhere about here: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/-28.2049/152.8661 & saw what turns out to be one of

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