On 23/05/2019 22:09, Phillip Barnett wrote:
Not sure how to tag it now, but are you sure the name is correct? JW’s
place of worship has always been known as a Kingdom Hall, not Wisdom.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_Hall
No; this is definitely Wisdom Hall. It's an early name,
Looking for some advice...
There's a building in the town where I live that was originally
constructed by the Jehovah's Witnesses and named, by them, "Wisdom
Hall". It hasn't been used by the JWs now for several years, ever since
they moved to a new location. The building is currently
On 20/05/2019 22:13, jc...@mail.com wrote:
On 18/05/2019 18:03, Mark Goodge wrote:
The OSM wiki is correct to distinguish between miniature railways (ie,
ridable models) and small gauge "real" railways, as this reflects usage
among railway engineers and enthusiasts in the n
On 18/05/2019 16:35, Martin Wynne wrote:
Wikipedia suggests that a "miniature railway" is one using rideable
*models* of real railways, which is not the case for the RVLR:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum-gauge_railway
Should I change the tag to railway=minimum_gauge, bearing in
On 27/04/2019 18:02, I wrote:
On 27/04/2019 17:52, Andy Townsend wrote:
On 27/04/2019 17:50, Philip Barnes wrote:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:barrier%3Dstile#Stile_details
4000 of those:
https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/stile#values
However also from that page I'm
On 27/04/2019 17:52, Andy Townsend wrote:
On 27/04/2019 17:50, Philip Barnes wrote:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:barrier%3Dstile#Stile_details
4000 of those:
https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/stile#values
However also from that page I'm now wondering what "stile=hipster"
On 27/04/2019 17:46, Chris Hill wrote:
I've always known them as squeeze stiles.
Indeed. The term "stile" doesn't have to imply steps, although that is
the most common form.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stile
Mark
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On 30/01/2019 16:00, Tom Hughes wrote:
The fundamental problem with this, as Jerry has just said, is that
many towns in the UK have no defined boundary.
Even where there is an administrative entity there is no guarantee
that it's boundary equates to what most people would view as the
On 28/01/2019 18:50, Lester Caine wrote:
On 28/01/2019 18:24, Will Phillips wrote:
There are certainly occasions when the street name is needed. For
example, I recently surveyed a single postcode (DE72 2HP) containing
two houses with the same house name, but different street names.
On 25/01/2019 17:30, Jack FitzSimons via Talk-GB wrote:
I've noticed that many bank branches have a unique postcode while the
shops either side of them all share a single postcode. When the bank
branch closes (as so many do these days) the unique postcode finds its
way on to Robert's old
On 12/12/2018 23:11, ael wrote:
This is perhaps slightly off topic, but this habit of some of sharing
nodes causes me many problems. When I am updating roads and other
features from fairly accurate gps surveys, I often find the I have all
these tangled boundaries about which I know little. It
On 26/11/2018 12:07, Gregory Marler wrote:
The ODI have called on the government to pressure Google, Uber, Apple
into releaseing "mapping data"
On 12/10/2018 21:32, Nick Whitelegg wrote:
Interesting. "Detailed path network" in particular looks interesting, is
this rights of way or physical paths on the ground I wonder?
It would be physical paths on the ground.
Mark
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On 27/09/2018 11:39, ajt1...@gmail.com wrote:
There's quite a lot of "maxweight:conditional" in OSM too, presumably
for the same signs where people think they apply to buses too. I'd
agree with what's previously been said in that I don't think the "lorry"
sign on it's own applies to buses
On 26/09/2018 17:33, Philip Barnes wrote:
On Wed, 2018-09-26 at 17:18 +0100, Tony Shield wrote:
From the examples given it seems that passing the facing sign is
the limiting event, the end of the restriction may be posted with a
grey end of restriction sign; surveying them could be a
On 26/09/2018 14:21, Paul Berry wrote:
On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 at 13:10, Mark Goodge <mailto:m...@good-stuff.co.uk>> wrote:
Another issue is how we tag "gateway" weight restrictions. These apply
only to traffic in one direction, and not to an entire length of road.
On 26/09/2018 13:00, Colin Smale wrote:
On 2018-09-26 13:48, David Woolley wrote:
In that specific case (7.5T), which is the most common, it would be
hgv=no, as that is the defining maximum authorised mass for an HGV.
I'd consider maxweight, for higher limits.
Is a bus/coach considered
On 26/09/2018 12:35, Tobias Zwick wrote:
Hey there
I can't believe this didn't come up before - or maybe it did but was not
documented in the wiki.
In United Kingdom, how do you tag roads signed with this sign?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:UK_traffic_sign_622.1A.svg
That's a good
On 24/09/2018 09:34, Stuart Reynolds wrote:
[Side question, albeit not totally off-topic]
Out of curiosity, I understand what a C road is, conceptually, but what
might an “MC” designation mean? E.g.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/426675505
It's a local designation for what are more
On 20/09/2018 18:16, Lester Caine wrote:
On 20/09/2018 17:50, Mark Goodge wrote:
In fact, putting them in OSM isn't just damaging to OSM, it's damaging
to OHM. At the moment, OHM is a bit sparse, there are some well-mapped
areas but there are some pretty big blank areas. What it really needs
On 20/09/2018 16:37, Dan S wrote:
Op do 20 sep. 2018 om 16:31 schreef Mark Goodge :
However, historic administrative boundaries, by definition, are not
current. They're not an edge case. They are completely outside the
realms of what is current.
Your "by definition" seems t
On 20/09/2018 13:46, Martin Wynne wrote:
On 20/09/2018 13:12, Dave F wrote:
See the OSM Welcome page.
Thanks. The wording there is:
"OpenStreetMap is a place for mapping things that are both real and
current."
Unfortunately it doesn't define "real" or "current".
No, it leaves those to
On 19/09/2018 16:57, Steve Doerr wrote:
On 19/09/2018 16:04, Andrew Black wrote:
I live in London. The place I live in has been inb the county of
London since 1889. But the traditional county beast says I live in
Surrey.
Then you will be familiar with the annual boat race between Oxford
On 07/09/2018 12:51, Chris Hill wrote:
One place to look is OS Open Names. That has place names listed with a
category of populated place that seems to be hamlet, village, town or
suburban area. That lists Wickham Market as a town.
That seems to be going solely by size, and is used to
On 07/09/2018 12:37, Martin Wynne wrote:
But it's not a useful indicator, because it's least reliable precisely
in the cases where you are most uncertain.
Surely the more uncertain you are, the more useful an indicator becomes?
Only if the indicator is reliable though, And it's least
On 07/09/2018 12:28, Stuart Reynolds wrote:
I would support a simple, objective definition, based on population size.
Population of what, though? The contiguous urban area? The local
government entity? And by what measurement? Most recent census?
Electoral roll? Current estimate?
Unless
On 07/09/2018 11:35, Martin Wynne wrote:
You were suggesting identifying them by observation, using street
lights as a distinguishing factor.
Yes, in the event that you are uncertain. I said it was a useful indicator.
But it's not a useful indicator, because it's least reliable precisely
On 07/09/2018 11:25, Martin Wynne wrote:
If it were true, then almost every village would need 30mph repeater
signs throughout, as they wouldn't have enough lighting to count as a
built up area. In practice, though, they don't.
Yes they do. At least all the villages I know have 30mph
On 07/09/2018 11:10, Martin Wynne wrote:
Here's a couple of locations near me. One is in a village, the other
is in a town. Can you tell, just by looking at them, which is which?
If you already know one is a village and the other is a town, why do you
need any other means of identifying
On 07/09/2018 10:47, Martin Wynne wrote:
There are, indeed, multiple definitions of the difference between a town
and a village
A useful indicator is the street lighting.
Generally a town has continuous evenly spaced street lamps along all or
most roads within its boundary.
Villages
On 07/09/2018 09:06, Colin Smale wrote:
On 2018-09-07 09:37, Mark Goodge wrote:
Obviously it's been "town" more than village (and the person who
added it as such was/is pretty local) - but is that still correct?
I'll comment on the latest change about this thread so that
everyo
On 06/09/2018 22:00, ajt1...@gmail.com wrote:
Is anyone familiar with this area? Someone's mentioned on IRC that
Wickham Market has been changed from town to village and back a couple
of times:
http://osm.mapki.com/history/node.php?id=114148812
Obviously it's been "town" more than village
On 31/08/2018 15:30, Steve Doerr wrote:
On 30/08/2018 22:26, Mark Goodge wrote:
It was incredibly confusing to visitors, as the hamlet was nowhere
near the post town. So we inserted "near [parish name]" as the second
line, when giving the address.
Off-topic, but the Royal Mail
On 30/08/2018 17:40, Ed Loach wrote:
I missed the start of this thread as I was away, but there are some
unnamed roads in England with houses on that just have a postal address
in the format
house name, hamlet name, parish name, postal town
I grew up in one that was even more minimal, it
On 26/08/2018 23:16, Martin Wynne wrote:
Both. It's administratively and legally part of the highway, but it's
the part of the highway which consists of a grass verge.
Thanks Mark.
I think I should map that as
landuse=highway
landcover=grass
However for some inexplicable reason,
On 26/08/2018 21:36, Colin Smale wrote:
On 2018-08-26 21:17, David Woolley wrote:
It looks to me as though boundaries can be defined recursively, so
Hampshire, rather than its bounding ways, ought to to be the object
referenced in the bigger entities.
This wouldn't work in the case of civil
On 26/08/2018 16:37, Andrew Black wrote:
Before we can decide whether to delete or document it we need to decide
whether it is wanted.
Might a Loomio vote be a way forwards.
As a relatively recent newcomer to OSM as a contributor, I was wondering
about that. Does OSM have the equivalent of
On 26/08/2018 20:54, Colin Smale wrote:
There is a wiki page for boundary=historic, which I think makes it
clear that these boundaries should not be in OSM.
I think it's slightly unfortunate that OSM uses the tag 'historic' for
something that's different to what we are discussing here. As
On 26/08/2018 21:05, Martin Wynne wrote:
I don't think it's for those who have mapped something in OSM to
demonstrate majority support for its retention. I think it is for those
seeking to have others' contributions removed to demonstrate a clear
consensus in favour of deletion.
Should this
On 26/08/2018 20:35, Martin Wynne wrote:
Rural boundaries can be extraordinarily difficult to map. For example,
is this:
https://goo.gl/maps/FtjMZiwNj542
a) a fence,
b) a hedge,
c) a very narrow wood,
d) all three at the same time?
I'd call it a hedgerow. I'm not sure if OSM has a
On 26/08/2018 20:01, Frederik Ramm wrote:
Hi,
On 08/26/2018 12:46 PM, Colin Smale wrote:
It has gone all quiet here, and in the mean time smb001 has been making
steady progress across England.
I think he shouldn't have done this. He should have argued his case here
and the community should
On 10/08/2018 13:14, Colin Smale wrote:
Who is the arbiter of relevance? I think for any given "mapper" or
"consumer" 99% of the contents of OSM is not relevant. People are
mapping the nuts and bolts of the insulators on electricity pylons.. I
can't see that being relevant to most people.
On 10/08/2018 12:05, John Aldridge wrote:
I'd like to register a +1 in favour of accepting these historic counties.
I *generally* agree with your principle of 'only mapping what is on the
ground', but if we followed that strictly we wouldn't map current
administrative boundaries either.
On 08/08/2018 17:05, Stephen Doerr wrote:
On 8 August 2018, at 15:50, Sean Blanchflower wrote:
>I begin to fear I've caused offence in my recent editing, so apologies
if so. I'm just a keen OSM editor trying to add what I see as a valuable
omission in its database.
I for one am glad to
On 07/08/2018 20:48, Dave F wrote:
Hi
User smb1001 is currently adding county boundary relations with
boundary=historic through out the UK:
http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/ASf (May take a while to run)
Changeset discussion:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/61410203
From the historic
On 05/08/2018 22:55, Martin Wynne wrote:
But C and D numbers are not (normally) public, they are internal
identifiers not intended for public use.
They often appear in planning applications, and public notices about
road works and diversions.
So do extracts of detailed OS maps. That
On 05/08/2018 14:44, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
Rob Nickerson wrote:
Dave can you do the D class roads too. Someone has added these -
e.g: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/52.21554/-1.87663
That reminds me - there's some weird ones in Hillingdon too:
On 05/08/2018 21:10, Martin Wynne wrote:
Copyright doesn't work like that.
But you can't copyright names, addresses and similar material.
Road names and numbers would surely fall within that.
Public road names and numbers (eg, names on name plates and numbers on
road signs) fall within
On 26/07/2018 16:39, Martin Wynne wrote:
> And, since that also matches what's on the ground,
What's on the ground is that a property in Avenue has a postal address
in East Street, so maybe Avenue is simply a part of East Street and
should be mapped as "East Street"?
It is in the normal
On 26/07/2018 13:32, Paul Berry wrote:
I can't help but think this changeset is misguided for a number of
reasons. However I'm nowhere near Brighton so not really in a position
to verify other than from memory and some armchair detective work.
To wit:
On 10/07/2018 23:10, Paul Norman wrote:
On 2018-07-10 2:00 PM, Mark Goodge wrote:
ESRI's free maps can be accessed as server-side tiles. See
Leaflet-providers for some examples:
https://leaflet-extras.github.io/leaflet-providers/preview/
I'm not sure of the licence restrictions which apply
On 10/07/2018 21:10, Paul Norman wrote:
On 2018-07-10 12:30 PM, Mark Goodge wrote:
I think it's a positive. One of the biggest issues with large-scale
use of OSM is that OSM's own tile server isn't suited for high-volume
use, but most of the alternative tile servers are rate-limited
On 10/07/2018 20:16, Jez Nicholson wrote:
https://www.arcgis.com/home/item.html?id=fae788aa91e54244b161b59725dcbb2a
"...updated every few weeks..." is not so great
"...freely available for any user or developer..." sounds good
discuss
I think it's a positive. One of the biggest issues
On 13/06/2018 17:08, Simon Poole wrote:
Most of the time such much applauded changes in policy work mainly for
the big guys (aka the goog, here and tomtom), by lowering the costs to
have similar level of non-automotive related detail as the national
mapping agencies and OSM. I don't quite
On 29/05/2018 14:53, Tony Shield wrote:
Guys
Recently changed Chorley station adding more details. Added covered=yes
cos there is a canopy for us to huddle under but not the whole length of
the platform, there are also bus shelter type of shelters so shelter=yes
was also added.
I think
On 24/05/2018 16:36, David Woolley wrote:
Please read the terms of use on that web site, in particular:
"You may only print off copies, and may only download page(s) from our
site for your personal and non-commercial use."
Anything included in OSM needs to have licence that permits
On 03/05/2018 11:25, SK53 wrote:
Can we please avoid changing the meaning of post office by extending it
to courier offices, and restrict it to those places which offer not only
a full service mail offering (aka Universal Postal Service), but the
traditional other services available at post
On 06/04/2018 18:58, Brian Prangle wrote:
Hi Russ
If any are listed buildings it would be good to tag them
heritage=2
heritage_operator=Historic England
listed_status = Grade I Grade II* or Grade II as appropriate
All surviving bottle kilns in Stoke-on-Trent are listed. But sometimes
On 13/03/2018 12:58, Dave F wrote:
Hi
Robert Whittaker has recently performed an edit across England & Wales
to update Schools ref:edubase code.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/57034975
As well as the reference, he's amended some of the names in OSM as
listed in the database. I
On 19/02/2018 14:37, David Woolley wrote:
On 19/02/18 13:29, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote:
The raw branch list data can be found at
http://robert.mathmos.net/osm/postoffice/data/ and it licensed under
the Open Government Licence v3. It includes ID numbers, branch names,
addresses,
On 27/01/2018 20:09, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote:
Secondly, some addresses contain two street names, a main
street and a so-called "dependent street". Apart from the historic
anomalies, a single postcode should only cover one main street, but
can include more than one dependent street.
On 29/01/2018 12:38, Lester Caine wrote:
UK post codes are based on the postmans walk, so follow the footpaths
that a postman can follow to deliver mail. Yes a street may have a
different postcode on each side, and long roads are broken down into
smaller blocks each with it's own postcode.
On 25/01/2018 14:05, Stuart Reynolds wrote:
…and who does that? I didn’t ask for a search on NPEMap/FreeThePostcode,
and it isn’t something that is stored as a physical node on the map that
I can edit out. It is simply a service that sits behind the search box
on openstreetmap.org
On 25/01/2018 11:48, Stuart Reynolds wrote:
Who do we need to speak to at FreeThePostcode to get it fixed? Does
anyone have any contacts?
FreeThePostcode is obsolete, and has been ever since postcode data was
released under the OGL by OS and ONS. It will, therefore, never be
updated or
On 20/01/2018 22:39, Andrew Black wrote:
If a pub has been taken over by a chain (and changed name), should one
delete FHRS info.
My gut feeling is yes but. ...
If there has been a change of ownership, then yes, the old FHRS rating
doesn't carry over to the new one. So it would need to be
I tried searching on OSM for a postcode, which I know exists, but it
returned zero entries from Nominatim. Other postcode searches work fine.
Can anyone tell me where Nominatim gets its data from for a postcode
search, and how often it's updated?
Mark
On 29/12/2017 23:23, Mick Orridge wrote:
The ONS postcode file (Open Government Licence other than BT postcodes
for NI) for August 2017 (download here:-
https://ons.maps.arcgis.com/home/item.html?id=1e4a246b91c34178a55aab047413f29b)
holds terminated postcodes. It's entry for BD5 8JR shows a
On 29/12/2017 11:41, Ian Caldwell wrote:
On 29 December 2017 at 10:47, Mark Goodge <m...@good-stuff.co.uk
<mailto:m...@good-stuff.co.uk>> wrote:
since a filling station isn't going to be large enough to have a
single-user postcode
Not necessarily I used to own a t
On 29/12/2017 11:14, Andy Mabbett wrote:
On 29 December 2017 at 08:30, Adam Snape wrote:
Speaking generally, I don't think it's good practice to be using
non-free resources like this to research information which is
not clear from open data, even if we don't use the
On 28/12/2017 22:33, Warin wrote:
Could the post code be derived from surrounding features?
I don't know how detailed the post codes there are .. but if features in
OSM surrounding it were of the same post code (and correct) then they
could be used to derive the post code?
It will almost
On 29/12/2017 08:30, Adam Snape wrote:
Hi,
I don't think we would delete a postcode found in other Open Data just
on the basis of it not being in Codepoint Open; the error could lie in
Codepoint Open itself. I suggest that a FIXME would be appropriate where
two sources appear to contradict
On 28/12/2017 19:31, Lester Caine wrote:
Get the return address right ...
On 28/12/17 16:12, Colin Spiller wrote:
I've been adding postcodes in the Bradford BD area using Robert & gregrs
useful tools. I've just noticed that the Shell station at the Rooley
Lane / Rooley Avenue junction BD5
On 21/12/2017 15:49, Frederik Ramm wrote:
Hi,
On 21.12.2017 16:13, Mark Goodge wrote:
My vision of OSM is a movement which places its users first, by
providing the maximum utility possible for those who look at the maps.
That means maximising the quantity, accuracy, relevance and timeliness
On 13/01/2017 22:44, Lester Caine wrote:
On 13/01/17 22:36, Mark Goodge wrote:
There is a one-way street (to be more precise, a service road) in my
town centre which has the wrong direction of flow on OSM. I can't see
any obvious way of changing that - the "oneway" tag merely h
There is a one-way street (to be more precise, a service road) in my
town centre which has the wrong direction of flow on OSM. I can't see
any obvious way of changing that - the "oneway" tag merely has a value
of "yes", and there's no direction attribute anywhere that I can see.
Is it simply
On 12/01/2017 10:58, Will Phillips wrote:
Great to see some new mapping taking place in Evesham. I do visit
occasionally and last year did some updates around the centre.
Unfortunately I haven't had much time during recent visits.
Tagging multi-level buildings can be difficult and there isn't
I'm currently trying to tidy up some of the tagging and locations of the
town centre where I live. I've already moved a pub to be in the right
place, and updated some labels for shops that have changed hands since
the previous edit. However, one that also needs updating is a multi-use
building
On 10/01/2017 01:44, Andy Townsend wrote:
On 10/01/17 01:20, David Groom wrote:
...
Tag info shows 579 ways tagged with crop = beet, of these 572 are in
northern Italy added by 3 users, so its probably quite easy to ask
what exactly they meant by "beet" , and retag these existing ways if
they
On 20/05/2016 16:42, Andy Townsend wrote:
On 20/05/2016 16:29, SK53 wrote:
In my experience there are certain prescription which I can only get
fulfilled by a hospital pharmacy (those written by a consultant).
Agreed - and in the case of the one I'm familiar with it's not a stock
issue but a
On 15/02/2016 12:35, Gregory wrote:
What did people think of my place:designation=* suggestion?
That would make sense, yes.
Mark
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On 12/02/2016 17:18, Colin Smale wrote:
Several attempts have been made to "correct" the tagging from city to
village/town... each time it was changed back to city...
This, I think, illustrates why we really could do with a "legal_status"
tag or similar for populated places. People,
On 04/11/2015 18:05, Lester Caine wrote:
The point I was trying to make was that Secondary, tertiary and
unclassified are essentially the same level of importance for road
navigation and so treating them differently in rendering ( or routing
rules ) adds an incorrect importance to one over the
On 04/11/2015 08:40, Lester Caine wrote:
OK finally spotted what is going thanks to the new style sheet ;)
The question is where do we get the 'tertiary' designation from since in
many cases there is little to distinguish those roads from
'unclassified'.
As far as the UK is concerned, this is
On 01/11/2015 07:22, Ed Loach wrote:
On 31 Oct 2015 21:59, "jonathan" > wrote:
>
> I don't like it.
>
> It very simple, the colours should match the road sign colours: Blue,
Green, Red!
Red?
Traditional UK mapping colours for
On 31/10/2015 22:27, Chris Hill wrote:
We should all keep in mind that the standard map on the OSM website is
not OSM. It is just a single render as an example of what is possible.
There are thousands of renders out there (I must have made more than a
dozen). Making your own map tiles in your
On 14/09/2015 00:41, Tom Hughes wrote:
On 14/09/15 00:16, Lester Caine wrote:
The OSM wiki defines 'hamlet' as less than 100-200 people, but village
supposedly starts at 1000 up to 1 with the proviso that it depends
on the country. Ideally the two would perhaps meet :) We are perhaps
On 07/08/2015 10:02, Paul Norman wrote:
On 8/6/2015 2:07 PM, Antje wrote:
Forking the map style with stronger British road colours and then
getting that forked road style onto the main site once the default
style goes “international”.
After all, we didn’t call it “open” for nothing!
I'd
On 13/07/2015 18:14, Andy Allan wrote:
On 13 July 2015 at 14:34, Mike Evans mi...@saxicola.co.uk wrote:
It seems to me that the viaduct and the railway are two separate
entities and should mapped as such. Just because an abandoned
railway happens to run on the top of the viaduct is irrelevant
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