Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging a named building now used for a different purpose

2019-05-23 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 23/05/2019 22:09, Phillip Barnett wrote: Not sure how to tag it now, but are you sure the name is correct? JW’s place of worship has always been known as a Kingdom Hall, not Wisdom. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_Hall No; this is definitely Wisdom Hall. It's an early name,

[Talk-GB] Tagging a named building now used for a different purpose

2019-05-23 Per discussione Mark Goodge
Looking for some advice... There's a building in the town where I live that was originally constructed by the Jehovah's Witnesses and named, by them, "Wisdom Hall". It hasn't been used by the JWs now for several years, ever since they moved to a new location. The building is currently

Re: [Talk-GB] Miniature railway or minimum gauge?

2019-05-21 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 20/05/2019 22:13, jc...@mail.com wrote: On 18/05/2019 18:03, Mark Goodge wrote: The OSM wiki is correct to distinguish between miniature railways (ie, ridable models) and small gauge "real" railways, as this reflects usage among railway engineers and enthusiasts in the n

Re: [Talk-GB] Miniature railway or minimum gauge?

2019-05-18 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 18/05/2019 16:35, Martin Wynne wrote: Wikipedia suggests that a "miniature railway" is one using rideable *models* of real railways, which is not the case for the RVLR:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum-gauge_railway Should I change the tag to railway=minimum_gauge, bearing in

Re: [Talk-GB] How would tag or name this wall crossing?

2019-04-27 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 27/04/2019 18:02, I wrote: On 27/04/2019 17:52, Andy Townsend wrote: On 27/04/2019 17:50, Philip Barnes wrote: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:barrier%3Dstile#Stile_details 4000 of those: https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/stile#values However also from that page I'm

Re: [Talk-GB] How would tag or name this wall crossing?

2019-04-27 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 27/04/2019 17:52, Andy Townsend wrote: On 27/04/2019 17:50, Philip Barnes wrote: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:barrier%3Dstile#Stile_details 4000 of those: https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/stile#values However also from that page I'm now wondering what "stile=hipster"

Re: [Talk-GB] How would tag or name this wall crossing?

2019-04-27 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 27/04/2019 17:46, Chris Hill wrote: I've always known them as squeeze stiles. Indeed. The term "stile" doesn't have to imply steps, although that is the most common form. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stile Mark ___ Talk-GB mailing list

Re: [Talk-GB] Checking UK Towns

2019-01-30 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 30/01/2019 16:00, Tom Hughes wrote: The fundamental problem with this, as Jerry has just said, is that many towns in the UK have no defined boundary. Even where there is an administrative entity there is no guarantee that it's boundary equates to what most people would view as the

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging post towns and other addressing issues in the UK

2019-01-28 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 28/01/2019 18:50, Lester Caine wrote: On 28/01/2019 18:24, Will Phillips wrote: There are certainly occasions when the street name is needed. For example, I recently surveyed a single postcode (DE72 2HP) containing two houses with the same house name, but different street names.

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes

2019-01-25 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 25/01/2019 17:30, Jack FitzSimons via Talk-GB wrote: I've noticed that many bank branches have a unique postcode while the shops either side of them all share a single postcode. When the bank branch closes (as so many do these days) the unique postcode finds its way on to Robert's old

Re: [Talk-GB] OS Boundary-Line - Manchester political wards and related boundaries, dealing with inconsistent data

2018-12-13 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 12/12/2018 23:11, ael wrote: This is perhaps slightly off topic, but this habit of some of sharing nodes causes me many problems. When I am updating roads and other features from fairly accurate gps surveys, I often find the I have all these tangled boundaries about which I know little. It

Re: [Talk-GB] Govt should pressure Google to release data

2018-11-26 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 26/11/2018 12:07, Gregory Marler wrote: The ODI have called on the government to pressure Google, Uber, Apple into releaseing "mapping data"

Re: [Talk-GB] Fwd: Open MasterMap progress since Policy Announcement

2018-10-12 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 12/10/2018 21:32, Nick Whitelegg wrote: Interesting. "Detailed path network" in particular looks interesting, is this rights of way or physical paths on the ground I wonder? It would be physical paths on the ground. Mark ___ Talk-GB mailing

Re: [Talk-GB] Access restrictions for lorries above a certain GVM

2018-09-27 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 27/09/2018 11:39, ajt1...@gmail.com wrote: There's quite a lot of "maxweight:conditional" in OSM too, presumably for the same signs where people think they apply to buses too.  I'd agree with what's previously been said in that I don't think the "lorry" sign on it's own applies to buses

Re: [Talk-GB] Access restrictions for lorries above a certain GVM

2018-09-26 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 26/09/2018 17:33, Philip Barnes wrote: On Wed, 2018-09-26 at 17:18 +0100, Tony Shield wrote: From the examples given it seems that passing the facing sign is the limiting event, the end of the restriction may be posted with a grey end of restriction sign; surveying them could be a

Re: [Talk-GB] Access restrictions for lorries above a certain GVM

2018-09-26 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 26/09/2018 14:21, Paul Berry wrote: On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 at 13:10, Mark Goodge <mailto:m...@good-stuff.co.uk>> wrote: Another issue is how we tag "gateway" weight restrictions. These apply only to traffic in one direction, and not to an entire length of road.

Re: [Talk-GB] Access restrictions for lorries above a certain GVM

2018-09-26 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 26/09/2018 13:00, Colin Smale wrote: On 2018-09-26 13:48, David Woolley wrote: In that specific case (7.5T), which is the most common, it would be hgv=no, as that is the defining maximum authorised mass for an HGV.  I'd consider maxweight, for higher limits. Is a bus/coach considered

Re: [Talk-GB] Access restrictions for lorries above a certain GVM

2018-09-26 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 26/09/2018 12:35, Tobias Zwick wrote: Hey there I can't believe this didn't come up before - or maybe it did but was not documented in the wiki. In United Kingdom, how do you tag roads signed with this sign? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:UK_traffic_sign_622.1A.svg That's a good

Re: [Talk-GB] What was the outcome of the discussion about C class roads with ref tags?

2018-09-24 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 24/09/2018 09:34, Stuart Reynolds wrote: [Side question, albeit not totally off-topic] Out of curiosity, I understand what a C road is, conceptually, but what might an “MC” designation mean? E.g. https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/426675505 It's a local designation for what are more

Re: [Talk-GB] 'historic' county boundaries added to the database

2018-09-20 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 20/09/2018 18:16, Lester Caine wrote: On 20/09/2018 17:50, Mark Goodge wrote: In fact, putting them in OSM isn't just damaging to OSM, it's damaging to OHM. At the moment, OHM is a bit sparse, there are some well-mapped areas but there are some pretty big blank areas. What it really needs

Re: [Talk-GB] 'historic' county boundaries added to the database

2018-09-20 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 20/09/2018 16:37, Dan S wrote: Op do 20 sep. 2018 om 16:31 schreef Mark Goodge : However, historic administrative boundaries, by definition, are not current. They're not an edge case. They are completely outside the realms of what is current. Your "by definition" seems t

Re: [Talk-GB] 'historic' county boundaries added to the database

2018-09-20 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 20/09/2018 13:46, Martin Wynne wrote: On 20/09/2018 13:12, Dave F wrote: See the OSM Welcome page. Thanks. The wording there is: "OpenStreetMap is a place for mapping things that are both real and current." Unfortunately it doesn't define "real" or "current". No, it leaves those to

Re: [Talk-GB] 'historic' county boundaries added to the database

2018-09-19 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 19/09/2018 16:57, Steve Doerr wrote: On 19/09/2018 16:04, Andrew Black wrote: I live in London. The place I live in has been inb the county of London since 1889. But the traditional county beast says I live in Surrey. Then you will be familiar with the annual boat race between Oxford

Re: [Talk-GB] Wickham Market, Suffolk

2018-09-07 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 07/09/2018 12:51, Chris Hill wrote: One place to look is OS Open Names. That has place names listed with a category of populated place that seems to be hamlet, village, town or suburban area. That lists Wickham Market as a town. That seems to be going solely by size, and is used to

Re: [Talk-GB] Wickham Market, Suffolk

2018-09-07 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 07/09/2018 12:37, Martin Wynne wrote: But it's not a useful indicator, because it's least reliable precisely in the cases where you are most uncertain. Surely the more uncertain you are, the more useful an indicator becomes? Only if the indicator is reliable though, And it's least

Re: [Talk-GB] Wickham Market, Suffolk

2018-09-07 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 07/09/2018 12:28, Stuart Reynolds wrote: I would support a simple, objective definition, based on population size. Population of what, though? The contiguous urban area? The local government entity? And by what measurement? Most recent census? Electoral roll? Current estimate? Unless

Re: [Talk-GB] Wickham Market, Suffolk

2018-09-07 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 07/09/2018 11:35, Martin Wynne wrote: You were suggesting identifying them by observation, using street lights as a distinguishing factor. Yes, in the event that you are uncertain. I said it was a useful indicator. But it's not a useful indicator, because it's least reliable precisely

Re: [Talk-GB] Wickham Market, Suffolk

2018-09-07 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 07/09/2018 11:25, Martin Wynne wrote: If it were true, then almost every village would need 30mph repeater signs throughout, as they wouldn't have enough lighting to count as a built up area. In practice, though, they don't. Yes they do. At least all the villages I know have 30mph

Re: [Talk-GB] Wickham Market, Suffolk

2018-09-07 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 07/09/2018 11:10, Martin Wynne wrote: Here's a couple of locations near me. One is in a village, the other is in a town. Can you tell, just by looking at them, which is which? If you already know one is a village and the other is a town, why do you need any other means of identifying

Re: [Talk-GB] Wickham Market, Suffolk

2018-09-07 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 07/09/2018 10:47, Martin Wynne wrote: There are, indeed, multiple definitions of the difference between a town and a village A useful indicator is the street lighting. Generally a town has continuous evenly spaced street lamps along all or most roads within its boundary. Villages

Re: [Talk-GB] Wickham Market, Suffolk

2018-09-07 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 07/09/2018 09:06, Colin Smale wrote: On 2018-09-07 09:37, Mark Goodge wrote: Obviously it's been "town" more than village (and the person who added it as such was/is pretty local) - but is that still correct? I'll comment on the latest change about this thread so that everyo

Re: [Talk-GB] Wickham Market, Suffolk

2018-09-07 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 06/09/2018 22:00, ajt1...@gmail.com wrote: Is anyone familiar with this area?  Someone's mentioned on IRC that Wickham Market has been changed from town to village and back a couple of times: http://osm.mapki.com/history/node.php?id=114148812 Obviously it's been "town" more than village

Re: [Talk-GB] un-named roads in UK

2018-08-31 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 31/08/2018 15:30, Steve Doerr wrote: On 30/08/2018 22:26, Mark Goodge wrote: It was incredibly confusing to visitors, as the hamlet was nowhere near the post town. So we inserted "near [parish name]" as the second line, when giving the address. Off-topic, but the Royal Mail

Re: [Talk-GB] un-named roads in UK

2018-08-30 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 30/08/2018 17:40, Ed Loach wrote: I missed the start of this thread as I was away, but there are some unnamed roads in England with houses on that just have a postal address in the format house name, hamlet name, parish name, postal town I grew up in one that was even more minimal, it

Re: [Talk-GB] When is a hedge a wood?

2018-08-26 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 26/08/2018 23:16, Martin Wynne wrote: Both. It's administratively and legally part of the highway, but it's the part of the highway which consists of a grass verge. Thanks Mark. I think I should map that as landuse=highway landcover=grass However for some inexplicable reason,

Re: [Talk-GB] boundary mania

2018-08-26 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 26/08/2018 21:36, Colin Smale wrote: On 2018-08-26 21:17, David Woolley wrote: It looks to me as though boundaries can be defined recursively, so Hampshire, rather than its bounding ways, ought to to be the object referenced in the bigger entities. This wouldn't work in the case of civil

Re: [Talk-GB] 'historic' county boundaries added to the database

2018-08-26 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 26/08/2018 16:37, Andrew Black wrote: Before we can decide whether to delete or document it we need to decide whether it is wanted. Might a Loomio vote be a way forwards. As a relatively recent newcomer to OSM as a contributor, I was wondering about that. Does OSM have the equivalent of

Re: [Talk-GB] 'historic' county boundaries added to the database

2018-08-26 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 26/08/2018 20:54, Colin Smale wrote: There is a wiki page for boundary=historic, which I think makes it clear that these boundaries should not be in OSM. I think it's slightly unfortunate that OSM uses the tag 'historic' for something that's different to what we are discussing here. As

Re: [Talk-GB] 'historic' county boundaries added to the database

2018-08-26 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 26/08/2018 21:05, Martin Wynne wrote: I don't think it's for those who have mapped something in OSM to demonstrate majority support for its retention. I think it is for those seeking to have others' contributions removed to demonstrate a clear consensus in favour of deletion. Should this

Re: [Talk-GB] When is a hedge a wood?

2018-08-26 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 26/08/2018 20:35, Martin Wynne wrote: Rural boundaries can be extraordinarily difficult to map. For example, is this:  https://goo.gl/maps/FtjMZiwNj542 a) a fence, b) a hedge, c) a very narrow wood, d) all three at the same time? I'd call it a hedgerow. I'm not sure if OSM has a

Re: [Talk-GB] boundary mania

2018-08-26 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 26/08/2018 20:01, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, On 08/26/2018 12:46 PM, Colin Smale wrote: It has gone all quiet here, and in the mean time smb001 has been making steady progress across England. I think he shouldn't have done this. He should have argued his case here and the community should

Re: [Talk-GB] 'historic' county boundaries added to the database

2018-08-10 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 10/08/2018 13:14, Colin Smale wrote: Who is the arbiter of relevance? I think for any given "mapper" or "consumer" 99% of the contents of OSM is not relevant. People are mapping the nuts and bolts of the insulators on electricity pylons.. I can't see that being relevant to most people.

Re: [Talk-GB] 'historic' county boundaries added to the database

2018-08-10 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 10/08/2018 12:05, John Aldridge wrote: I'd like to register a +1 in favour of accepting these historic counties. I *generally* agree with your principle of 'only mapping what is on the ground', but if we followed that strictly we wouldn't map current administrative boundaries either.

Re: [Talk-GB] 'historic' county boundaries added to the database

2018-08-08 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 08/08/2018 17:05, Stephen Doerr wrote: On 8 August 2018, at 15:50, Sean Blanchflower wrote: >I begin to fear I've caused offence in my recent editing, so apologies if so. I'm just a keen OSM editor trying to add what I see as a valuable omission in its database. I for one am glad to

Re: [Talk-GB] 'historic' county boundaries added to the database

2018-08-08 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 07/08/2018 20:48, Dave F wrote: Hi User smb1001 is currently adding county boundary relations with boundary=historic through out the UK: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/ASf (May take a while to run) Changeset discussion: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/61410203 From the historic

Re: [Talk-GB] 'D' class roads references.

2018-08-05 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 05/08/2018 22:55, Martin Wynne wrote: But C and D numbers are not (normally) public, they are internal identifiers not intended for public use. They often appear in planning applications, and public notices about road works and diversions. So do extracts of detailed OS maps. That

Re: [Talk-GB] 'D' class roads references.

2018-08-05 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 05/08/2018 14:44, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Rob Nickerson wrote: Dave can you do the D class roads too. Someone has added these - e.g: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/52.21554/-1.87663 That reminds me - there's some weird ones in Hillingdon too:

Re: [Talk-GB] 'D' class roads references.

2018-08-05 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 05/08/2018 21:10, Martin Wynne wrote: Copyright doesn't work like that. But you can't copyright names, addresses and similar material. Road names and numbers would surely fall within that. Public road names and numbers (eg, names on name plates and numbers on road signs) fall within

Re: [Talk-GB] Bartholomews, Brighton

2018-07-26 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 26/07/2018 16:39, Martin Wynne wrote:  > And, since that also matches what's on the ground, What's on the ground is that a property in Avenue has a postal address in East Street, so maybe Avenue is simply a part of East Street and should be mapped as "East Street"? It is in the normal

Re: [Talk-GB] Bartholomews, Brighton

2018-07-26 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 26/07/2018 13:32, Paul Berry wrote: I can't help but think this changeset is misguided for a number of reasons. However I'm nowhere near Brighton so not really in a position to verify other than from memory and some armchair detective work. To wit:

Re: [Talk-GB] Closed software supplier ESRI creates OSM vector tile basemap

2018-07-11 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 10/07/2018 23:10, Paul Norman wrote: On 2018-07-10 2:00 PM, Mark Goodge wrote: ESRI's free maps can be accessed as server-side tiles. See Leaflet-providers for some examples: https://leaflet-extras.github.io/leaflet-providers/preview/ I'm not sure of the licence restrictions which apply

Re: [Talk-GB] Closed software supplier ESRI creates OSM vector tile basemap

2018-07-10 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 10/07/2018 21:10, Paul Norman wrote: On 2018-07-10 12:30 PM, Mark Goodge wrote: I think it's a positive. One of the biggest issues with large-scale use of OSM is that OSM's own tile server isn't suited for high-volume use, but most of the alternative tile servers are rate-limited

Re: [Talk-GB] Closed software supplier ESRI creates OSM vector tile basemap

2018-07-10 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 10/07/2018 20:16, Jez Nicholson wrote: https://www.arcgis.com/home/item.html?id=fae788aa91e54244b161b59725dcbb2a "...updated every few weeks..." is not so great "...freely available for any user or developer..." sounds good discuss I think it's a positive. One of the biggest issues

Re: [Talk-GB] Has someone just given us (the start of) access to the crown jewels?

2018-06-13 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 13/06/2018 17:08, Simon Poole wrote: Most of the time such much applauded changes in policy work mainly for the big guys (aka the goog, here and tomtom), by lowering the costs to have similar level of non-automotive related detail as the national mapping agencies and OSM. I don't quite

Re: [Talk-GB] Railway Platforms - Covered=yes are not shown in latest rendering

2018-05-29 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 29/05/2018 14:53, Tony Shield wrote: Guys Recently changed Chorley station adding more details. Added covered=yes cos there is a canopy for us to huddle under but not the whole length of the platform, there are also bus shelter type of shelters so shelter=yes was also added. I think

Re: [Talk-GB] Railway level crossings

2018-05-24 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 24/05/2018 16:36, David Woolley wrote: Please read the terms of use on that web site, in particular: "You may only print off copies, and may only download page(s) from our site for your personal and non-commercial use." Anything included in OSM needs to have licence that permits

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Quarterly Project: Post Offices

2018-05-03 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 03/05/2018 11:25, SK53 wrote: Can we please avoid changing the meaning of post office by extending it to courier offices, and restrict it to those places which offer not only a full service mail offering (aka Universal Postal Service), but the traditional other services available at post

Re: [Talk-GB] Bottle Kilns

2018-04-06 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 06/04/2018 18:58, Brian Prangle wrote: Hi Russ If any are listed buildings it would be good to tag them heritage=2 heritage_operator=Historic England listed_status =  Grade I  Grade II* or Grade II as appropriate All surviving bottle kilns in Stoke-on-Trent are listed. But sometimes

Re: [Talk-GB] recent School ref:edubase update

2018-03-13 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 13/03/2018 12:58, Dave F wrote: Hi Robert Whittaker has recently performed an edit across England & Wales to update Schools ref:edubase code. https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/57034975 As well as the reference, he's amended some of the names in OSM as listed in the database. I

Re: [Talk-GB] New Post Office Data and Comparison Tool

2018-02-19 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 19/02/2018 14:37, David Woolley wrote: On 19/02/18 13:29, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: The raw branch list data can be found at http://robert.mathmos.net/osm/postoffice/data/  and it licensed under the Open Government Licence v3. It includes ID numbers, branch names, addresses,

Re: [Talk-GB] Errors in Street Names in Addresses

2018-01-31 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 27/01/2018 20:09, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: Secondly, some addresses contain two street names, a main street and a so-called "dependent street". Apart from the historic anomalies, a single postcode should only cover one main street, but can include more than one dependent street.

Re: [Talk-GB] Errors in Street Names in Addresses

2018-01-29 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 29/01/2018 12:38, Lester Caine wrote: UK post codes are based on the postmans walk, so follow the footpaths that a postman can follow to deliver mail. Yes a street may have a different postcode on each side, and long roads are broken down into smaller blocks each with it's own postcode.

Re: [Talk-GB] Wildly inaccurate postcode

2018-01-25 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 25/01/2018 14:05, Stuart Reynolds wrote: …and who does that? I didn’t ask for a search on NPEMap/FreeThePostcode, and it isn’t something that is stored as a physical node on the map that I can edit out. It is simply a service that sits behind the search box on openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-GB] Wildly inaccurate postcode

2018-01-25 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 25/01/2018 11:48, Stuart Reynolds wrote: Who do we need to speak to at FreeThePostcode to get it fixed? Does anyone have any contacts? FreeThePostcode is obsolete, and has been ever since postcode data was released under the OGL by OS and ONS. It will, therefore, never be updated or

Re: [Talk-GB] FHRS info when pub has been taken over.

2018-01-21 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 20/01/2018 22:39, Andrew Black wrote: If a pub has been taken over by a chain (and changed name), should one delete FHRS info. My gut feeling is yes but. ... If there has been a change of ownership, then yes, the old FHRS rating doesn't carry over to the new one. So it would need to be

[Talk-GB] Nominatim and postcodes

2018-01-10 Per discussione Mark Goodge
I tried searching on OSM for a postcode, which I know exists, but it returned zero entries from Nominatim. Other postcode searches work fine. Can anyone tell me where Nominatim gets its data from for a postcode search, and how often it's updated? Mark

Re: [Talk-GB] Importing Shell fuel stations

2017-12-30 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 29/12/2017 23:23, Mick Orridge wrote: The ONS postcode file (Open Government Licence other than BT postcodes for NI) for August 2017 (download here:- https://ons.maps.arcgis.com/home/item.html?id=1e4a246b91c34178a55aab047413f29b) holds terminated postcodes. It's entry for BD5 8JR shows a

Re: [Talk-GB] Importing Shell fuel stations

2017-12-29 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 29/12/2017 11:41, Ian Caldwell wrote: On 29 December 2017 at 10:47, Mark Goodge <m...@good-stuff.co.uk <mailto:m...@good-stuff.co.uk>> wrote: since a filling station isn't going to be large enough to have a single-user postcode Not necessarily I used to own a t

Re: [Talk-GB] Non-free sources [was: Re: Importing Shell fuel stations]

2017-12-29 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 29/12/2017 11:14, Andy Mabbett wrote: On 29 December 2017 at 08:30, Adam Snape wrote: Speaking generally, I don't think it's good practice to be using non-free resources like this to research information which is not clear from open data, even if we don't use the

Re: [Talk-GB] Importing Shell fuel stations

2017-12-29 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 28/12/2017 22:33, Warin wrote: Could the post code be derived from surrounding features? I don't know how detailed the post codes there are .. but if features in OSM surrounding it were of the same post code (and correct) then they could be used to derive the post code? It will almost

Re: [Talk-GB] Importing Shell fuel stations

2017-12-29 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 29/12/2017 08:30, Adam Snape wrote: Hi, I don't think we would delete a postcode found in other Open Data just on the basis of it not being in Codepoint Open; the error could lie in Codepoint Open itself. I suggest that a FIXME would be appropriate where two sources appear to contradict

Re: [Talk-GB] Importing Shell fuel stations

2017-12-28 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 28/12/2017 19:31, Lester Caine wrote: Get the return address right ... On 28/12/17 16:12, Colin Spiller wrote: I've been adding postcodes in the Bradford BD area using Robert & gregrs useful tools. I've just noticed that the Shell station at the Rooley Lane / Rooley Avenue junction BD5

Re: [Talk-GB] Importing Website Data

2017-12-21 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 21/12/2017 15:49, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, On 21.12.2017 16:13, Mark Goodge wrote: My vision of OSM is a movement which places its users first, by providing the maximum utility possible for those who look at the maps. That means maximising the quantity, accuracy, relevance and timeliness

Re: [Talk-GB] Reversing the flow of a one-way street

2017-01-13 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 13/01/2017 22:44, Lester Caine wrote: On 13/01/17 22:36, Mark Goodge wrote: There is a one-way street (to be more precise, a service road) in my town centre which has the wrong direction of flow on OSM. I can't see any obvious way of changing that - the "oneway" tag merely h

[Talk-GB] Reversing the flow of a one-way street

2017-01-13 Per discussione Mark Goodge
There is a one-way street (to be more precise, a service road) in my town centre which has the wrong direction of flow on OSM. I can't see any obvious way of changing that - the "oneway" tag merely has a value of "yes", and there's no direction attribute anywhere that I can see. Is it simply

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging a multilvel building

2017-01-12 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 12/01/2017 10:58, Will Phillips wrote: Great to see some new mapping taking place in Evesham. I do visit occasionally and last year did some updates around the centre. Unfortunately I haven't had much time during recent visits. Tagging multi-level buildings can be difficult and there isn't

[Talk-GB] Tagging a multilvel building

2017-01-12 Per discussione Mark Goodge
I'm currently trying to tidy up some of the tagging and locations of the town centre where I live. I've already moved a pub to be in the right place, and updated some labels for shops that have changed hands since the previous edit. However, one that also needs updating is a multi-use building

Re: [Talk-GB] beetroot or beet

2017-01-12 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 10/01/2017 01:44, Andy Townsend wrote: On 10/01/17 01:20, David Groom wrote: ... Tag info shows 579 ways tagged with crop = beet, of these 572 are in northern Italy added by 3 users, so its probably quite easy to ask what exactly they meant by "beet" , and retag these existing ways if they

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project (Health): Pharmacies and Defibrillators

2016-05-24 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 20/05/2016 16:42, Andy Townsend wrote: On 20/05/2016 16:29, SK53 wrote: In my experience there are certain prescription which I can only get fulfilled by a hospital pharmacy (those written by a consultant). Agreed - and in the case of the one I'm familiar with it's not a stock issue but a

Re: [Talk-GB] place=village/town/city

2016-02-15 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 15/02/2016 12:35, Gregory wrote: What did people think of my place:designation=* suggestion? That would make sense, yes. Mark -- http://www.markgoodge.com ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-GB] place=village/town/city

2016-02-15 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 12/02/2016 17:18, Colin Smale wrote: Several attempts have been made to "correct" the tagging from city to village/town... each time it was changed back to city... This, I think, illustrates why we really could do with a "legal_status" tag or similar for populated places. People,

Re: [Talk-GB] Secondary, tertiary and unclassified

2015-11-04 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 04/11/2015 18:05, Lester Caine wrote: The point I was trying to make was that Secondary, tertiary and unclassified are essentially the same level of importance for road navigation and so treating them differently in rendering ( or routing rules ) adds an incorrect importance to one over the

Re: [Talk-GB] Secondary, tertiary and unclassified

2015-11-04 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 04/11/2015 08:40, Lester Caine wrote: OK finally spotted what is going thanks to the new style sheet ;) The question is where do we get the 'tertiary' designation from since in many cases there is little to distinguish those roads from 'unclassified'. As far as the UK is concerned, this is

Re: [Talk-GB] New map style

2015-11-02 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 01/11/2015 07:22, Ed Loach wrote: On 31 Oct 2015 21:59, "jonathan" > wrote: > > I don't like it. > > It very simple, the colours should match the road sign colours: Blue, Green, Red! Red? Traditional UK mapping colours for

Re: [Talk-GB] New map style

2015-11-01 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 31/10/2015 22:27, Chris Hill wrote: We should all keep in mind that the standard map on the OSM website is not OSM. It is just a single render as an example of what is possible. There are thousands of renders out there (I must have made more than a dozen). Making your own map tiles in your

Re: [Talk-GB] Village, Hamlet and populations ...

2015-09-14 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 14/09/2015 00:41, Tom Hughes wrote: On 14/09/15 00:16, Lester Caine wrote: The OSM wiki defines 'hamlet' as less than 100-200 people, but village supposedly starts at 1000 up to 1 with the proviso that it depends on the country. Ideally the two would perhaps meet :) We are perhaps

Re: [Talk-GB] UK/GB OpenStreetMap survey results

2015-08-07 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 07/08/2015 10:02, Paul Norman wrote: On 8/6/2015 2:07 PM, Antje wrote: Forking the map style with stronger British road colours and then getting that forked road style onto the main site once the default style goes “international”. After all, we didn’t call it “open” for nothing! I'd

Re: [Talk-GB] Thrapston viaduct

2015-07-14 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 13/07/2015 18:14, Andy Allan wrote: On 13 July 2015 at 14:34, Mike Evans mi...@saxicola.co.uk wrote: It seems to me that the viaduct and the railway are two separate entities and should mapped as such. Just because an abandoned railway happens to run on the top of the viaduct is irrelevant

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