Re: Mississippi Palisades - SOTM - Jan 2011

2011-01-23 Thread Robin Gravina
Well, as an intimidated one, as we are all probably, I just think this
TOTM is fantastic. I love the fact that so far we are off the regular
paths, and therefore have to use our musical brains a bit. And that I
learn something from literally every post. Waiting to go to the office
tomorrow so I can hear the latest versions.

2011/1/23, Ed Goist edgo...@gmail.com:
 Man, I am really impressed (and more than a little intimidated) by the
 quality of the videos being posted to the group! Great work everyone.

 Also, just a random comment from a new guy...
 There is a benefit to members of the group (as long as they are also on
 Facebook) for the videos to be posted to Facebook - When something gets
 posted to the Facebook group, all members will also receive notification of
 the post/thread by e-mail. So, one can either view the post directly from
 the e-mail they have received, or they can go to the thread on Facebook.

 -Ed

 On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Brian Ray dassp...@gmail.com wrote:

 Seems FaceBook has kinda divided the group a bit and there's more video
 posting going on over there. To update everyone on the SOTM, I thought I'd
 send out and email with all of the folks posting video. Some of it is only
 on FaceButt... but here's the list (sorry if I missed anyone):

 Jonas: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peQMCaWje6M
 Linda: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GY5iU1EQ4wc
 Me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCq2AMxRzgQ
 Kathy: (on FaceButt only)
 He that Bibbs: (FB only)
 George: (FB only)
 Val: (FB)
 Don: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2mqiA1w6X0 (Hurray another YouTuber!)
 Nelson: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DHfpUz6W3c
 Mike R: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6XxIkYsKuA
 Robin: (FB)
 Steve: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oOIugNkMiM
 Dave: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VmF4l6_24o
 Fred: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLFUUl8XBUc

 Brian

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Re: Blaming my tools

2011-01-21 Thread Robin Gravina
Portugal is an idea, and I will do the strings;: I just use Addario J74's
which I think are phosphor bronze (it says 'Ricky Skaggs uses this pack', so
they must be good, right? ;-))

I might just be going through a patch of self-doubt, as other times I like
my tone, but I think it's also just hearing people playing really good
top-end instruments: mine is a Lebeda. I would like to go to Brighton to
play on some of the good stuff in Trevor's shop and see if the impression
that I have is real (and get tempted to spend money I don't have), but also
I know I need to work on a smooth, minimalist left hand and on getting all
of the 'air' out of the notes with my right.

Thanks for the comments- I'll keep plugging away.
Cheers
Robin


On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 5:39 AM, Linda lj...@intas.net.au wrote:

 Robin,
 I am using phosphor bronze strings and they really suit my particular
 mandolin.  They tell me when they start to go, and it is awful.
 Finding the right strings that suit your mandolin, and keeping them up
 to date can really help with tone.

 If that don't work then talking to a skilled and knowledgeable luthier
 could reveal what other issues might be around.  Check that your fret
 wires are not worn.  I had that happen and the tone became very
 distressing.  The set up could be a bit off.  I honestly did not
 notice any tone issues with your videos.

 I look at your playing and see all the things I can't do well, yet,
 that you can.

 I am able to get a very good tone from my mandolin when I play slow
 enough but at speed it deterioriates.  The tune gets really muddy as I
 still have issues controling the pick when playing double stops, or
 very fast,  to get the playing clear and clean.  I am currently
 playing out anyway, faster, more double stops and really loud, free,
 not worrying much here at the house how it sounds but more attention
 to what is going wrong that I can work on, to eventually get a better
 sound going when playing more complex things and playing faster.

 Thats about all I can think of to say, but hope you find the answers
 so you feel happier about things.  I hear you about having to travel
 to purchase a mandolin, to have the choice and such.  Its so personal.

 Over the last two years, I have been working on double stops, slides,
 chord structure, memorizing tunes, position and habit issues to
 change, finger patterns, especially reaches like from A to C# on the G
 then to the E on the D string and to do that quickly.  Its coming
 along, all of it.  Lots and lots of work though and still, feeling
 like things are not exactly in place yet.

 You know there should be some really good mandolin type lutiers in
 Portugal.

 best
 linda









 On Jan 20, 12:29 am, Ed Goist edgo...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi Robin:
  Could it be your strings?
  Since string quality degrades slowly, we often don't notice it until it
 gets
  really bad (kinda' like the frog that never jumps out of a pot slowly
 heated
  to a boil [?]).
  On more than one occasion I've been shocked by the improvement in my
  mandolin's tone brought about simply by installing new, high-quality
  strings.
  Just a thought.
  -Ed
 
  On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 3:52 AM, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 
 
   Hi to all, on the old communications channel
 
   I'm getting tone paranoia: it strikes me from seeing a lot of
 everyone's
   great videos how poor my tone is: I hear most people with great ringing
   sound, clear note separation and that kind of floating sound you get
 from
   the combination of those things. To me, lately, I sound like I just
 chucked
   a load of spanners down the stairs and into a tin box.
 
   It's pretty hard for me to try out other mandolins, as I have to fly to
   England for the nearest shop, but I am really starting to wonder if
 it's me,
   or my tool.
 
   Cheers
   Robin
 
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Re: New Mandola

2011-01-21 Thread Robin Gravina
ah, so that Mandola was a Collings

On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Don adobeinthepi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Nelson, congrats! I just bought a Collings MT2 mandola off of ebay
 that was used but basically brand new. I'm impressed with it. I did
 the Miss Palisades video with it.

 On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 9:22 AM, Nelson nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net
 wrote:
  If you got the emailer from The Mandolin Store this morning that
  included the Collings MT Mandola in it, you can take a look at the one
  I have coming in a month or so.  I just bought it.
 
  Now, I'll TWO mandolin family instruments to stumble around on!
  WoooHo!
 
  Nelson
 
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Re: Blaming my tools

2011-01-21 Thread Robin Gravina
Well 'good stuff' is as 'good stuff' does. You are right: there is all kinds
of interplay there: I played a Chinese Bouzouki in London which was going
for 200 pounds, nasty construction and bits of glue everywhere, but it
sounded fantastic to me. I think I'm just going through one of those phases
which are probably signs of learning: no tone, crap right hand, crap left
hand, no originality, timing all off, can barely hold a pick, trouble
standing vertical and keeping nose clean, dog has more natural talent...

It will pass



On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 8:15 PM, bgjunkie bgjun...@gmail.com wrote:

 You say you have a Lebeda and then go on to say “good stuff” later, I have
 played several Lebedas and they are really good mandolins.  I played a
 Lebeda A at Cotton Music here in Nashville that made me want to sell my
 Gibson F9 – it had that singing quality that a lot of Collings mandolins.  I
 have a friend with a Lebeda octave mandolin that is one of the sweetest
 sounding things I have ever heard.



 Just saying you might try new or different strings, as well as play around
 with some different picks (and they don’t have to be the expensive ones
 either).  I play a lot with the Dunlop Ultex 1.14 picks and love the way
 they sound with my F9, but if I want a brighter tone I might play something
 thinner.  I bought one of the Dawg picks once and it gave a really dark tone
 that I did not care for.



 To wrap up my ramble - a friend has let me borrow his Gibson Sam Bush model
 (good stuff – right?), but sometimes I prefer the tone I get from my F9.  I
 like the playability of my Epiphone MM30 better than all of them, but the
 tone is not as good.  There is always something, just keep playing and
 having fun doing it.



 Steve



 *From:* taterbugmando@googlegroups.com [mailto:
 taterbugmando@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Robin Gravina
 *Sent:* Friday, January 21, 2011 7:05 AM
 *To:* taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: Blaming my tools



 Portugal is an idea, and I will do the strings;: I just use Addario J74's
 which I think are phosphor bronze (it says 'Ricky Skaggs uses this pack', so
 they must be good, right? ;-))



 I might just be going through a patch of self-doubt, as other times I like
 my tone, but I think it's also just hearing people playing really good
 top-end instruments: mine is a Lebeda. I would like to go to Brighton to
 play on some of the good stuff in Trevor's shop and see if the impression
 that I have is real (and get tempted to spend money I don't have), but also
 I know I need to work on a smooth, minimalist left hand and on getting all
 of the 'air' out of the notes with my right.



 Thanks for the comments- I'll keep plugging away.

 Cheers

 Robin



 On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 5:39 AM, Linda lj...@intas.net.au wrote:

 Robin,
 I am using phosphor bronze strings and they really suit my particular
 mandolin.  They tell me when they start to go, and it is awful.
 Finding the right strings that suit your mandolin, and keeping them up
 to date can really help with tone.

 If that don't work then talking to a skilled and knowledgeable luthier
 could reveal what other issues might be around.  Check that your fret
 wires are not worn.  I had that happen and the tone became very
 distressing.  The set up could be a bit off.  I honestly did not
 notice any tone issues with your videos.

 I look at your playing and see all the things I can't do well, yet,
 that you can.

 I am able to get a very good tone from my mandolin when I play slow
 enough but at speed it deterioriates.  The tune gets really muddy as I
 still have issues controling the pick when playing double stops, or
 very fast,  to get the playing clear and clean.  I am currently
 playing out anyway, faster, more double stops and really loud, free,
 not worrying much here at the house how it sounds but more attention
 to what is going wrong that I can work on, to eventually get a better
 sound going when playing more complex things and playing faster.

 Thats about all I can think of to say, but hope you find the answers
 so you feel happier about things.  I hear you about having to travel
 to purchase a mandolin, to have the choice and such.  Its so personal.

 Over the last two years, I have been working on double stops, slides,
 chord structure, memorizing tunes, position and habit issues to
 change, finger patterns, especially reaches like from A to C# on the G
 then to the E on the D string and to do that quickly.  Its coming
 along, all of it.  Lots and lots of work though and still, feeling
 like things are not exactly in place yet.

 You know there should be some really good mandolin type lutiers in
 Portugal.

 best
 linda










 On Jan 20, 12:29 am, Ed Goist edgo...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi Robin:
  Could it be your strings?
  Since string quality degrades slowly, we often don't notice it until it
 gets
  really bad (kinda' like the frog that never jumps out of a pot slowly
 heated
  to a boil

Re: TaterbugMandoGroup

2011-01-13 Thread Robin Gravina
Yes you can!

On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 2:59 PM, dassp...@gmail.com wrote:

  I've shared 
 TaterbugMandoGrouphttps://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B8KrIvg_Omq9YjUwNjQ5YjAtYTIyNC00NjM3LTliMjItYjhlNjU0ZTk3MjU0hl=en
 Message from dassp...@gmail.com:

 This is a test to see if I can share a google doc folder with the 
 TaterbugMando Group... this is only a test... please no panicking or wagering.

 Brian


 Click to open:

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Mississippi Palisades - Chirps Smith.mp3

2011-01-13 Thread robin . gravina

I've shared a document with you:

Mississippi Palisades - Chirps Smith.mp3
https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B_MMNWSH2PO1OWI5OWIyNWYtZWU3Yy00MTIwLWI4NzctZDk2YzU5OTAwYjA5hl=en

It's not an attachment -- it's stored online at Google Docs. To open this  
document, just click the link above.


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Re: TaterbugMandoGroup

2011-01-13 Thread Robin Gravina
If you go to the group and then share it with yourself, it seems to work

On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 7:01 PM, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.comwrote:

 Yes you can!


 On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 2:59 PM, dassp...@gmail.com wrote:

  I've shared 
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 Message from dassp...@gmail.com:

 This is a test to see if I can share a google doc folder with the 
 TaterbugMando Group... this is only a test... please no panicking or 
 wagering.

 Brian


 Click to open:

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Re: TaterbugMandoGroup

2011-01-13 Thread Robin Gravina
Then drag and drop a file you have uploaded to yourself into the new shared
folder


On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 7:14 PM, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.comwrote:

 If you go to the group and then share it with yourself, it seems to work


 On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 7:01 PM, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.comwrote:

 Yes you can!


 On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 2:59 PM, dassp...@gmail.com wrote:

  I've shared 
 TaterbugMandoGrouphttps://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B8KrIvg_Omq9YjUwNjQ5YjAtYTIyNC00NjM3LTliMjItYjhlNjU0ZTk3MjU0hl=en
 Message from dassp...@gmail.com:

 This is a test to see if I can share a google doc folder with the 
 TaterbugMando Group... this is only a test... please no panicking or 
 wagering.

 Brian


 Click to open:

- 
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Re: New Tune/January '11

2011-01-01 Thread Robin Gravina
Well I started looking at it this evening, so it had better be ;-).
It's a really stately tune the way he does it. I didn't know the
Pallisades were some cliffs, or mountains, but that explains it.
I managed to tab out the tune and (as always) am amazed by the depth
that a good performance and all the details give to what is really not
a terribly complicated tune. Suppose that's what music is all about
really!
Happy New Year to everyone. This list has been one of my great
pleasures this year
Abrazos
Robin

2011/1/1, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com:
 Okay,
 So I vote for Palisades... for January.
 Tbug

 On Dec 28 2010, 1:56 pm, Holstein st...@senatorgroup.com.au wrote:
 Brian, you go to the top of the class for that effort.
 Looking forward to seeing the video (post beer consumption)!
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Re: New Tune/January '11

2010-12-27 Thread Robin Gravina
Aint heard it, but I figure if someone has the passion to say that
they'd like a certain tune done, then that should be it.
If there are people fighting to get their choice toon out there, then
it has to be healthy!

And on another point. I prefer the gmail way for the list: I can't
connect that much, so I don't see the FB conversations,  and I do
prefer the long mails to the five word standard facebook response. FB
is much ezier, but a good deal stoopider, imho.
But it does have its uses, i suppose.
Let there be space for some kind of argumented communication!


2010/12/27, Brian Ray dassp...@gmail.com:
 Not sure what the rules are for choosing SOTM... but if'n y'all want a great
 tune to learn, I'll suggest Mississippi Palisades by Chirps Smith. I'm very
 likely the only one in the group that knows it and that should definitely
 change 'cause it's a great one. I have Chirps doing it (banjo/fiddle) and
 it's also on the new Rhys Jones record (fiddle/piano/banjo). I could make
 the audio available should folks decide they'd like to do it. It'd have to
 be an exercise in ear training 'cause no tab exists...

 Brian


 On Dec 27, 2010, at 1:16 PM, mistertaterbug wrote:

 Boy, this page has gone dead silent since the Facebutt page got
 started. Crickets...So, what're we gonna do about the January tune? I
 suggest we go to another key and get outa A. Who's gonna pick the
 tune? Shall we go alphabetically? Youngest? Oldest? Best looking(no
 wait, I already did one BFG)? What say you folks?

 Taterbug

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Re: country blues

2010-12-20 Thread Robin Gravina
But supposing you can't remember any names?

Funny imagining someone arriving from the Shetlands to Mississippi. Can
barely imagine two climates further apart.

And what is the name of that mode that starts on the 6th note of the major
scale?

In Valencia it's 4Am, mild, light sea, and there is about to be an eclipse
of the full moon, I'm tempted to stay up for it, but I think not!



On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 4:11 AM, Don adobeinthepi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Robin, that's why tunes have names--so we can tell them apart.

 On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 7:13 PM, Linda lj...@intas.net.au wrote:
  Val and Robin,
  I have a Shetland Island tune here that has an A part that is almost
  exactly the B part of Grub Springs (if one thought of the Grub Springs
  version being an on-steroids take, a few more notes, and a jazzed up
  rhythm).  I am convinced that a fiddler long ago arrived in Old Miss,
  from the Shetlands, then over time, a Mississippi spin was put on the
  tune, giving it a crooked and kinda spooky effect, while accommodating
  the local dance style.
 
  A mate of mine has said that in old time music there are really only 5
  or 6  tunes.  And only one model one.  Meaning most of the old time
  music is just a variation of one of the 5 or 6 tunes. When my mate
  hears a new tune, she links in her mind to say ...Sally Goodin or one
  of the other basic 5.
 
  We have the fire going here, as even though it is summer, its been
  cold and cloudy with cold wind and rain. We are right on the edge of a
  weather front, so once in a while for an hour or so warm summer
  sunshine, then the south pole climate moves in again.
 
  linder
 
 
  On Dec 21, 12:13 am, Val Mindel vmin...@gmail.com wrote:
  Robin, that's a ramble in many dimensions. But Dusty Miller and Grub
  echo each other beyond the key thing. There's a clear path there.
  Garfields is another journey. For me its still such a finger twister
  that I can't relax and get into the music of it. In the rambling
  spirit, I've managed to get this far in the holiday season without
  getting totally sick of Christmas music (probably because I haven't
  ventured much into commercial establishments). Life is snowy here in
  Vermont, but cozy ... just the right sort of weather to hunker down
  and learn tunes. best, val
 
  On Dec 19, 2:48 pm, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Was playing the Grub the other day, and found myself playing Dusty
   Miller, then today while fixing my daughter's crappy keyboard, played
   it in E flat, starting on C and it turned into garfields BB. anyone
   else? or have I been listening to too much Capt Beefheart these days?
   And in Spain, Enrique Morente has just died too: fantastic flamenco
   singer with as wide a palette as you can imagine: recorded with a Punk
   band, but was also purer than the pure.
   So endeth the ramble
 
   2010/12/18, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com:
 
Must be a girl thing! Ah, the kind of remark that inspires open
season for retribution. G Let 'er fly!
TB
 
On Dec 17, 9:14 am, kathy nichols kathymnich...@gmail.com wrote:
Very good points Gathel.  I have already learned alot about myself
watching my video attempts. Like do I really hold my pick like
 that?!!
 Kinda like listening to your own voice.  We do tend to be our own
worst critics.
I also find this group very supportive of everyone's attempts and
 hope
to have my version of Bug Water up soon, double slops and all.
 
Funny how Val and I came up with the same phrase!
 
Kathy
 
On 12/17/10, Gathel Runnels gorunn...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I agree with the big Tater. What's really important is to have
 fun and
 do
 what you can. You learn a lot from listening and watching
 yourself play.
 You
 see all the mistakes and hear that stuff you thought sounded like
 one
 thing
 doesn't really sound that way. It's painful for most of us to see
 and
 hear
 recordings of ourselves but the thing I've realized is that
 everybody
 else
 has already seen and heard what you really sound like and most
 still
 like to
 pick with you. Others have already accepted you for what you are
 so just
 do
 your best and use it as a learning experience. Look at it in very
 technical
 terms like how would it sound different if I positioned the mic
 differently
 or used more down strokes or bought a much better instrument or
 whatever.
 Pretend that your looking at someone else and what would you tell
 them
 to
 make their pickin' better.
 This has been fun to see how everyone treats the tune a little
 differently.
 It's easy to see how, in the days before recordings, that tunes
 evolved.
 Keep 'em coming.
 
 Gathel
 
 On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 8:48 AM, mistertaterbug
 taterbugmu...@gmail.comwrote:
 
 Just do what you can do. No judgements from out here in Taterbug
 land.
 Val invented

Re: country blues

2010-12-17 Thread Robin Gravina
hahaha! Worse if they are done with tremble-oh



On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 3:48 PM, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.comwrote:

 Just do what you can do. No judgements from out here in Taterbug land.
 Val invented a new phrase the other day by accident(slip of the
 tongue) that I think applies to all of us. Her phrase is double
 slops. Too funny, too true. Loosen up and enjoy yourself. You don't
 have to wear your best hat in front of us. We like you like you are,
 warts and all. You listening, Clyde?
 Tbug

 On Dec 17, 6:16 am, Linda lj...@intas.net.au wrote:
  That goes for me too..heck I have only been working on mando serious
  for a couple of yearsI working too.
  I draw some and find what I aim for from my head is nothing like what
  comes out on paper.  And its that way with the mando too.  I am
  hearing it, and when I play it on vid, it seems like somebody else and
  not how my head is hearing it.  Remarks from Tater are noted and
  appreciated.
  I am aiming for my muse...might be more like a mess though.  This is a
  great exercise challenges on so many levels all in the one go.  Still
  fussing with it..still trying...
 
  On Dec 17, 4:00 pm, mandoho...@comcast.net wrote:
 
   I've been working pretty hard on Grub Springs, have recorded it three
 times now but what's coming out
   is not what I'm hearing in my head, I'm not happy with it at all. I
 think I have to grind it up again a few more
   times and see what comes out. This is strange for me as I'm not the
 least bit bashful about my playing, I've
   been know to jump right into any jam, crash and burn and come up
 smiling like I meant to do it just like that.
   But this is different, serious folks that know what they are doing and
 some mighty fine pickers. Not so easy
   to skin your ignorance in front of your heroes. I'm working on it.
 
   Clyde Clevenger
   Just My Opinion, But It's Right
   Salem, Oregon
   Old Circle
 
   - Original Message -
   From: mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com
 
   Can I say something here? Can I be slightly a hard ass? Here's the
   deal...this tune of the month thing is about each of us playing our
   interpretation of a given song/tune. That means, whatever your muse
   tells you, that's what you do. If you hear a song in a different
   genre, have at it. If you want to play it on something beside
   mandolin, do it. Give your emotions their due. Give your whims their
   due. Give every phrase your best. Don't hold back and let the damned
   censor take over your creativity before you can even get started. Come
   on folks, there's enough empty musical dialogue in the world. Make a
   point, take a stand, pour your heart out. I want to get to know your
   musical fingerprints...
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Re: Song of the Month-December 2010

2010-12-15 Thread Robin Gravina
I like the damped string thing you do which I can never seem to get right,
on command. And frankly a bit of swearing would just add to the experience I
think!!




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country blues

2010-12-15 Thread Robin Gravina
Someone posted the idea of working on a muddy waters tune, but seems
to have regretted it. I think we all agreed to do or at least offer
two tunes per month, and as I have some days off coming up, selfishly
I would love to do a country blues tune, but which? Tommy, lonnie,
robert, willie johnston? Furry or little hat? Got to run. Worraboutit?

2010/12/15, Mark Seale mark.se...@gmail.com:
 Well here's my first go at it on fiddle.  This is more ideas in progress,
 but they generally come quicker on the fiddle.  Forgive the rather atrocious
 acceleration from start to finish...

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4_bamJISKI

 Mark


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 great start

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Re: New group page

2010-12-12 Thread Robin Gravina
loud and clear

On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Linda lj...@intas.net.au wrote:

 Making a post to check the site.
 Testing, testing, one, two three...


 On Dec 10, 3:36 am, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:
  You're a member, law dogG. I have to accept memberships, but there's
  no restrictions really...so far...G
  Sir tattie
 
  On Dec 8, 7:22 pm, Gathel Runnels gorunn...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   OK. I tried to join but when I hit the request to join button it says
 the
   group is closed. Now I know you wouldn't be tryin' to exclude us
 fiddle/ex
   banjo pickers, would you? Tell me what I need to do.
 
   Gathel
 
   On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 5:19 PM, mistertaterbug 
 taterbugmu...@gmail.comwrote:
 
Come on now Don. It's a private group thang. Get off the farm, boy!
Tbugger
 
On Dec 8, 12:39 pm, Don adobeinthepi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Damn, I've been avoiding MyFace and SpaceBook. Guess I still will.
 
 On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 11:28 AM, mistertaterbug 
 taterbugmu...@gmail.com
wrote:
  Congratulations! We've made it to 700 topics on the group. Dang,
 who
  knew there was so much to talk about?
  mistah P
 
  On Dec 8, 12:26 pm, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Howdy folks. Happy Holly Daze, first off. Secondly, I just put
 up a
  new group on FaceButt called...wait for it...Taterbugmando.
 There's
  nothing there currently, so don't expect to find anything. But
 the
  page is there if you all want to join in. Maybe we can snag
 ourselves
  a slew of new friends and acquaintances. So far, the group is
 set with
  open membership and private content. The group page has it's own
  address too. It's taterbugma...@groups.facebook.com.
 
  So, next time you're wasting hours on end sitting in front of
 the
  computer instead of learning a new tune, go on over to the group
 page
  and invite a friend. Life is good.
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Re: New group page

2010-12-08 Thread Robin Gravina
Fakebook is cool. Frankly I think we are in a golden age of written
communication, unknown since the postman came four times a day... Jane
Austen again...

2010/12/8, Don adobeinthepi...@gmail.com:
 Damn, I've been avoiding MyFace and SpaceBook. Guess I still will.

 On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 11:28 AM, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 Congratulations! We've made it to 700 topics on the group. Dang, who
 knew there was so much to talk about?
 mistah P

 On Dec 8, 12:26 pm, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Howdy folks. Happy Holly Daze, first off. Secondly, I just put up a
 new group on FaceButt called...wait for it...Taterbugmando. There's
 nothing there currently, so don't expect to find anything. But the
 page is there if you all want to join in. Maybe we can snag ourselves
 a slew of new friends and acquaintances. So far, the group is set with
 open membership and private content. The group page has it's own
 address too. It's taterbugma...@groups.facebook.com.

 So, next time you're wasting hours on end sitting in front of the
 computer instead of learning a new tune, go on over to the group page
 and invite a friend. Life is good.
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Re: Song of the Month-December 2010

2010-12-07 Thread Robin Gravina
I know where you are at (as I believe one may say in the United
States). There  is a reason the Universe created Disney: it's to give
parents 80 minutes of mandolin practice time, and to hell with the
dirty washing. Jane Austen had loads of kids, no wii and even fewer
Nintendo DS, but did her pages per day. On the other hand, all her
kids grew up to be football hooligans and dope fiends, due to their
abandonment by their mother in favour of art.
Or not.
I say no matter how poor the situation is, make sure you do something
for yourself But maybe I'm just trying to reinforce the lessons
and do the homework...


2010/12/7, nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net:
 All,

 I haven't had time to pick up the mandolin but once in the last two weeks.
 Life is kinda busy right now.  My wife is making her second trip in 4 days 2
 hours away to see her mother in ICU.  It really is a matter of (little) time
 before she is gone.  In the meantime, I am Mr. Mom and Mr. Dad, taking care
 of a birthday slumber party for my little girl, who turned seven yesterday
 among the rest of the duties.

 I've intentionally not listened to anyone's recording because I don't want
 to be influenced by anyone's take on it.  I am sure they are all terrific,
 though.

 I hope to get some time to work on it tonight.

 Nelson


  On Mon 12/ 6/10  9:00 PM , Steve Cantrell sec...@bellsouth.net sent:
 Here's my run at it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUOlD-Nv2fQ [1]
 I guess mine falls more on the crooked side since that's what I had
 heard until that point, but I think that there's comfort in knowing
 there's one that sticks closer to the path. Curious to see what my
 buddy Josh has on it for fiddle when we get together later this week.
 -
 FROM: kathy nichols
 TO: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
 SENT: Mon, December 6, 2010 6:31:57 PM
 SUBJECT: Re: Song of the Month-December 2010

 Thank you for bring this up.  I wondered if I was the only one
 confused by the difference between the mp3, the youtube, and the tab.

 I went to a jam this weekend and asked an old time fiddler there if
 he
 knew Hatcher's version of Grub Springs.  He promptly played the
 straight version of the tune found on most of the other youtube
 videos.
 He has played around Michigan for many years, just never heard the
 crooked version but thought the one he played was Hatcher's version.
 I find working on one measure at a time is helping some.  Still
 confused about which fingers to use on the slides, especially in the
 7th measure.

 Interesting spelling for the blogger's first name
 Daevid.kinda crooked.

 Kathy

 On 12/6/10, mgromkey  wrote:
  I don't know if this'll help the effort, but as Don pointed out to
 me
  in a sidebar discussion, the Hatcher version, and the reference
 video
  of the two women playing fiddle, plays the B part one and a half
  times. In the middle of the second time through, Hatcher has kind
 of a
  brain bubble, drags out an A chord, and inexplicably kicks back to
 bar
  1. Truly kinky. Tater's gentlemanly transcript has a straight
 repeat
  on the B part, which is a lot more civilized. There is, however,
  something appealing about the more insane version.
 
  Below is a link to an interesting Exhibition Of Weird Fiddle
 Tunes
  found when I Googled Hatcher as an alternative to actually doing
 work
  at the end of the day. It's filled with amusing observations about
 old-
  time fiddlers who seem to have taken composition lessons from
  aliens.
 
  http://www.myspace.com/davidbragger/blog/175439660
 
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Re: Song of the Month-December 2010

2010-12-06 Thread Robin Gravina
Here's my effort. Fighting against rushing as always, but the nose looks
good

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pyV1cWk3f8

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pyV1cWk3f8Cheers
Robin


On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 12:48 AM, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.comwrote:

 Sounding good, folks.
 TBug

 On Dec 5, 1:47 pm, nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote:
  Nice work!
  Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Fred Keller fkel...@scicable.net
 
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  Date: Sun, 05 Dec 2010 13:26:46
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  Reply-To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Song of the Month-December 2010
 
  On 12/5/10 1:15 PM, mgromkey wrote:
   I'm still a little lost here, folks. It looks as if Fred Keller posted
   a link or a video but I don't see it any place. Jonas, your's sounds
   good to me. Can you play these tunes too fast? (g) (Though I confess,
   I usually like slowing things down from take-no-prisoners Bill Monroe
   tempo.) Don: The first link should take you straight to the YouTube
   post. I don't know why it won't embed. You're right: Makes no sense.
   Will send you an email about collaborating. -- MR
 
  Funny.  Must've forgotten to post the link.  Sorry!
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_SmXzwKqAA
 
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Re: Song of the Month-December 2010

2010-12-06 Thread Robin Gravina
:-)

Looking forward to hearing everyone's versions: I learned something
and want to steal bits from every one so far, and even the horrible
process of sitting there with the camera rolling is useful.
And I hope there will be a Tater version at month's end.

Now for grubs, there were some excellent, fat, fine white ones on
display as I shovelled compost in the rain this morning.


2010/12/6, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com:
 Robin,
 Yessireebob, that's on par. I'm hearing some of the same things you're
 using in the B section. The grub is still kicking me arse.
 puhtater

 On Dec 6, 6:40 am, Steve Cantrell sec...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 I'm hoping to have a version Tuesday when our band practices. We have been
 working on it independently and so far, so good.

 
 From: Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com
 To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Mon, December 6, 2010 5:31:03 AM
 Subject: Re: Song of the Month-December 2010

 Here's my effort. Fighting against rushing as always, but the nose looks
 good

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pyV1cWk3f8

 Cheers
 Robin

 On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 12:48 AM, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Sounding good, folks.



 TBug

 On Dec 5, 1:47 pm, nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote:
  Nice work!
  Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

  -Original Message-

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  Sender: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
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  On 12/5/10 1:15 PM, mgromkey wrote:
   I'm still a little lost here, folks. It looks as if Fred Keller
   posted
   a link or a video but I don't see it any place. Jonas, your's sounds
   good to me. Can you play these tunes too fast? (g) (Though I confess,
   I usually like slowing things down from take-no-prisoners Bill Monroe
   tempo.) Don: The first link should take you straight to the YouTube
   post. I don't know why it won't embed. You're right: Makes no sense.
   Will send you an email about collaborating. -- MR

  Funny.  Must've forgotten to post the link.  Sorry!

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_SmXzwKqAA

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Re: My own self-imposed silliness

2010-12-04 Thread Robin Gravina
Well my latest idea for a song, which I haven't succeeded in making
work, is one about how greedy bankers, ruthless speculators and craven
governments have effectively conspired in stealing a good many
people's  future and well-being. I wanted to bring it down to the
personal, Woodie Guthrie style.
Any use?


2010/12/4, Fred Keller fkel...@scicable.net:
 Last week I started a project through my blog
 (www.fredkellermando.com):  write a song a week for a month.  A modicum
 of self discipline never hurt and this way I hope to expand my
 repertoire too.  So week two starts Monday and I haven't gotten any
 suggestions from the interwebs like I did for week one.  The first
 week's suggestions and result are posted on the blog.  Anyone care to
 have something brutaliz--er, immortalized in song?


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Re: Song of the Month-December 2010

2010-12-04 Thread Robin Gravina
Maybe two weeks would be good: personally if I have can get the time to work
on stuff, which is not guaranteed,  I get into it quite quickly, at least to
the point where I am then ready to play it for the next weeks and months, at
which point they may be better, but possibly not massively better than when
I have just learnt them...

Not sure what I'm saying here, but why not give the two weeks a whirl. I'll
sit and grub in front of my webcam over this long weekend if I get the
chance. Why not!


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 Oh, I get it. The new posts are at the end so you have to page thru
 till you get to the newest. I don't see an option you can set to put
 the new posts at the top. If anybody has the Rosetta Stone to that
 one, kindly clue me in.

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Re: Song of the Month-December 2010

2010-12-04 Thread Robin Gravina
Yes, I really like that idea too.


2010/12/4, Trey Young email_t...@yahoo.com:
 Depending on the tune(s) and how busy I am during that month/two weeks, I
 could possibly hang with every two weeks. I like Kathy's idea of picking two
 at the beginning of the month and then you can choose which one to learn
 first and the quicker ones can learn both. Just my 0.02.




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Re: My own self-imposed silliness

2010-12-04 Thread Robin Gravina
I used to be in a band where the singer would do the soundcheck:
bicycles Tricycles... Test...ing
It was funny at the time.



2010/12/4, Joe Newberry js.newbe...@gmail.com:
 Sitting safe from the storm watching glittering icicles...
 enjoying the blue ribbon cukes I turned into my pickles

 On Dec 4, 3:21 pm, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:
 ...or ob-stacles? Sweet pickles? Don Rickles?

 On Dec 4, 10:02 am, kathy nichols kathymnich...@gmail.com wrote:

  or tricycles or popsicles or dreamsicles

  I couldn't fit it into a Christmas song without being too melancholy
  or too silly.  So I switched gears completely and wrote one called
  Neon Lights of Love.
  It's both melancholy and silly.

  On 12/4/10, Don adobeinthepi...@gmail.com wrote:

   bicycles

   On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 8:31 AM, kathy nichols
   kathymnich...@gmail.com
   wrote:
   I started a song once about artificial icicles but never finished it
   cause I couldn't find a good rhyme with icicles.  (ha ha)

   Have at it.

   Kathy

   On 12/4/10, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:
   How's about something to do with these damned plastic yard
   ornaments?
   Humbug

   On Dec 4, 7:14 am, Linda lj...@intas.net.au wrote:
   Robin its the theme of our days...just now, dang there is use for
   it.
   Seems this kind of thing is coming out like a rash all over the
   place
   these days.  Every thing changes when its a global story..new
   ground
   is being experienced.
   linda

   On Dec 4, 7:04 pm, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com wrote:

Well my latest idea for a song, which I haven't succeeded in
making
work, is one about how greedy bankers, ruthless speculators and
craven
governments have effectively conspired in stealing a good many
people's  future and well-being. I wanted to bring it down to the
personal, Woodie Guthrie style.
Any use?

2010/12/4, Fred Keller fkel...@scicable.net:

 Last week I started a project through my blog
 (www.fredkellermando.com): write a song a week for a month.  A
 modicum
 of self discipline never hurt and this way I hope to expand my
 repertoire too.  So week two starts Monday and I haven't gotten
 any
 suggestions from the interwebs like I did for week one.  The
 first
 week's suggestions and result are posted on the blog.  Anyone
 care
 to
 have something brutaliz--er, immortalized in song?

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Re: Song of the Month-December 2010

2010-12-03 Thread Robin Gravina
How's everyone doing with this? I  finally got a chance to first do
some beat counting on the train with the ipod and a pencil, and then
to try to copy the fiddlers this evening: hellish difficult to get the
timing in the b section, even though I've got the bars counted out
right I think. It's funny how something so counter intuitive and
random to me sounds so right, but so difficult to do. I guess it's a
question of understanding and assimilating that rhythm and style
through listening.
And  then there's the slides and the pinkie, and the way to make it
sound menacing, not trite.
Good call Señor Tubifero

2010/12/3, Pat Murphree phreem...@comcast.net:
 Thought I learned this tune once but I could use a brush-up. Send me a copy
 of the slow version. Thanks.

 Pat


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 Sent: Thursday, December 2, 2010 11:47:17 AM
 Subject: Re: Song of the Month-December 2010

 I might add, I've got a copy of the Hatcher version slowed down to
 about 60% and corrected the pitch if anyone wants that version. Lemme
 know.
 Buggs

 On Nov 28, 4:10 pm, Alexander, Jeffrey
 jeffrey.alexan...@louisvilleky.gov wrote:
 Count me in for one.

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 [mailto:taterbugma...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of mistertaterbug
 Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 11:16 PM
 To: Taterbugmando
 Subject: Re: Song of the Month-December 2010

 I'm happy to send an mp3 of Hatcher's version to anyone who wants it.
 Bugger

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  Did Hatcher play the crooked B part like the young ladies do, for
  those of us who don't have the original to listen to?

  The A part seems pretty straight forward to play, but the B part is a
  bit tricky, no?

  Signed, Thankful in NM.

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Re: Song of the Month-December 2010

2010-11-27 Thread Robin Gravina
Yes please

2010/11/28, mandoho...@comcast.net mandoho...@comcast.net:
 Please.



 Clyde Clevenger
 Just My Opinion, But It's Right
 Salem, Oregon
 Old Circle


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 I'm happy to send an mp3 of Hatcher's version to anyone who wants it.
 Bugger

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 Did Hatcher play the crooked B part like the young ladies do, for
 those of us who don't have the original to listen to?

 The A part seems pretty straight forward to play, but the B part is a
 bit tricky, no?

 Signed, Thankful in NM.

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Re: Song of the Month-December 2010

2010-11-26 Thread Robin Gravina
FInally got to listen to it. Never heard of the tune, never heard of the
musicians, but it's great to see and hear those two dig in with such gusto
and feel. And there's a funny time bit in there somewhere which I always
like, and the A part is kind of menacing, in fact the whole thing is, which
also hits my buttons. Looking forward to having some time to work on it
after I cook my Spanish fowl tomorrow and stuff my guests.



On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 11:34 PM, Val Mindel vmin...@gmail.com wrote:

 And thanks to you too, Mike Taterbug. best, val

 On Nov 25, 12:55 pm, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:
  Okay, here's my first pick. The tune is the Mississippi version of
  Grub Springs played by John Hatcher. Some of you may have learned a
  bit of this on lesson day. I have posted the notation/tab on the
  'files' section of the group. Snag it before January or it'll be gone.
  There is a video of Clelia Stefanini and Tatiana Hargreaves playing
  this tune on Youtube.
 
  Here's the link:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoW3ac31gvU
 
  As I hear it, there's really only A and G chords in this with a
  whisper of E on the ends. This tune is one I've been wanting to get a
  better grip on myself. The hard part for me is to get around the
  restrictions the frets put on the slides and drags, especially in the
  B section. Several ways to order the parts. You all play it how it
  suits you. I have my way. The tune is played out of standard tuning,
  but could be moved to AEAE.
 
  On a side note, Happy Thanksgiving. I'm thankful for you all. The
  world's a better place with you in it.
  Life is good.
  mistertaterbug

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Re: Re: Georgia Home by Norman Blake

2010-11-24 Thread Robin Gravina
Yes I like it: a month is about right. I also have tried the SAW or SOW or
whatever and it just gets too much and I end up doing none of them...


On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 2:03 AM, Don adobeinthepi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I like it! I participate some in the SAW (song a week) group at the
 Mando Cafe, but it takes me longer than a week to get anywhere with a
 tune.

 On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 4:46 PM,  nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote:
  Excellent idea!
 
  Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
 
  
  From: Mark Seale mark.se...@gmail.com
  Sender: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
  Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 16:48:49 -0600
  To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
  ReplyTo: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Re: Georgia Home by Norman Blake
  Good one Don!  I think we need to do a song of the month type deal over
 here
  in Taterland.  Maybe if we include Tater hisself it would kick off pretty
  good.  Call a tune, have someone do a recording on Youtube and at the end
 of
  the month everyone else puts up their version.  Just a thought.
 
  M
 
 
  On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Don adobeinthepi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Thanks, guys. Nelson, I haven't heard Shelvin' Rock so I'm looking
  forward to your video.
 
  On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 2:10 PM,  nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote:
   Don,
  
   I'll have to watch the video at home.  The Army doesn't like for us to
   spend time on YouTube when we are working.  What's their problem,
 anyway?
:)
  
   Yes, I am behind in my goal.  I have been working on some old time
   tunes, and will get one out pretty soon.  Shelvin' Rock it is fast
 becoming
   a favorite and will probably be the one.
  
   Nelson
  
  
On Tue 11/23/10  3:51 PM , Michael Romkey mgrom...@gmail.com sent:
   Nice job! Nice tune! Nice mando! Nice to the third power!
  
   On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 7:25 AM, Trey Young  wrote:
   Great job Don!
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   FROM: Don
   TO: taterbugmando
   SENT: Mon, November 22, 2010 9:00:47 PM
   SUBJECT: Georgia Home by Norman Blake
  
   Hey Nelson,
   Time for a video from you, isn't it? Here's one from me.
   Georgia Home
   is from the Original Underground Music From The Mysterious South
   album, released on CD as Natasha's Waltz. Played on my
   Campanella
   Dué.
  
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDCsPCd3Q2c [4]
  
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Re: Georgia Home by Norman Blake

2010-11-24 Thread Robin Gravina
As we buggers are all unassuming people, I suggest that DicTater
starts it off, and then we use the month for meaningful debate on the
next song, while we work on the current one, as well as refining our
Groucho Mask technique. In that way we will have our collective right
and left brain in harmony, and therefore karmic forces will descend
and universal creativity will take over our minds.
Or is that too ambitious?
Best
Robin

2010/11/24, Mark Seale mark.se...@gmail.com:
 Going forward I think it would be cool if someone would volunteer to
 post a tune at the beginning of the month and everyone else would
 learn or build on that tune. For the first one, it might be easiest to
 pick a tune one of the tatertubers has already posted.

 M


 On 11/24/10, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Good ideer. So, what is the process for deciding Tune of the month?
 Tbug

 On Nov 24, 8:54 am, Trey Young email_t...@yahoo.com wrote:
 a song a month seems reasonable to me...

 
 From: Steve Cantrell sec...@bellsouth.net
 To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wed, November 24, 2010 8:34:30 AM
 Subject: Re: Re: Georgia Home by Norman Blake

 Ditto on this one. I think it would be a fine idea.

 
 From: nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net
 To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tue, November 23, 2010 6:46:50 PM
 Subject: Re: Re: Georgia Home by Norman Blake

 Excellent idea!
 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
 

 From: Mark Seale mark.se...@gmail.com
 Sender: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
 Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 16:48:49 -0600
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 ReplyTo: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Re: Georgia Home by Norman Blake
 Good one Don!  I think we need to do a song of the month type deal over
 here in
 Taterland.  Maybe if we include Tater hisself it would kick off pretty
 good.
 Call a tune, have someone do a recording on Youtube and at the end of the
 month
 everyone else puts up their version.  Just a thought.

 M

 On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Don adobeinthepi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks, guys. Nelson, I haven't heard Shelvin' Rock so I'm looking

 forward to your video.

 On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 2:10 PM,  nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote:
  Don,

  I'll have to watch the video at home.  The Army doesn't like for us to
  spend
 time on YouTube when we are working.  What's their problem, anyway?  :)

  Yes, I am behind in my goal.  I have been working on some old time
  tunes, and
 will get one out pretty soon.  Shelvin' Rock it is fast becoming a
  favorite and
 will probably be the one.

  Nelson

   On Tue 11/23/10  3:51 PM , Michael Romkey mgrom...@gmail.com sent:
  Nice job! Nice tune! Nice mando! Nice to the third power!

  On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 7:25 AM, Trey Young  wrote:
  Great job Don!
  -
  FROM: Don
  TO: taterbugmando
  SENT: Mon, November 22, 2010 9:00:47 PM
  SUBJECT: Georgia Home by Norman Blake

  Hey Nelson,
  Time for a video from you, isn't it? Here's one from me.
  Georgia Home
  is from the Original Underground Music From The Mysterious South
  album, released on CD as Natasha's Waltz. Played on my
  Campanella
  Dué.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDCsPCd3Q2c[4]

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Re: Tater on Prairie Home Companion

2010-11-16 Thread Robin Gravina
Ah, that cheered up my afternoon at work! Must admit that although I
like his books, I've never been exposed to the GK show before. Apart
from the tasty bits from our Grand Taterbugger and his excellent NBB
colleagues, I hadn't listened to Pat Donahue for a while... Possibly
since I tried to figure out his Big Blind Bluesy, and realised my
limits on the guitar.
Thanks Dasspunk

2010/11/16, Dasspunk dassp...@gmail.com:
 And Sir Bibs was holding out on me... I had to learn the extra part on
 Fiddler's Pastime from Mr. Tom Schaefer... *sniff*.

 B


 On Nov 16, 9:31 am, Dasspunk dassp...@gmail.com wrote:
 Here's the audio...http://prairiehome.publicradio.org/programs/2010/11/13/

 B

 On Nov 13, 7:35 pm, Don adobeinthepi...@gmail.com wrote:







  Anyone catch NBB with our favorite Tater on PHC? I was tuned in
  driving home from the weekend supply run to Gallup NM and caught some
  fabulous music, including that acapella gospel blues. Tater put some
  feeling into the lead singing on that one. Yessir.

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Re: working up breaks

2010-11-10 Thread Robin Gravina
Funny you should mention that. After realising that the excitement of
launching into a break was making me speed up and lose timing, I spent
yesterday working out and practicing breaks to some of our newer songs: It
did seem to be useful to figure out something that sounds good in context
using the various ideas that are in my head somewhere: I'm definitely not
good enough to have those ideas in my fingers, and to be able to reproduce
them on the cuff. Also, once you get confident about the learned break, it
seems to be easier to improvise off of that, or at least to develop it with
other ideas.

But I speak as someone who is fumbling around with this!

Also, what I realised recently is that in our group practices, we don't
really practice solos, just play them: so we started doing each solo three
times each time we play the song: I think it really helps to get that time
to play something comfortably without the pressure of creating a masterpiece
in the one moment you have available



On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Val Mindel vmin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Anyone have advice on working up breaks? I'm feeling lame, in a wash
 of post-gig angst on the subject. Singing is usually what I'm hired to
 do, and I do lots of songs in less-than-friendly string keys (flat
 keys, F#, like that). Obviously more practice is the ticket, but I
 don't know how to practice. Should I create a break and then memorize
 it or hope my musical vocabulary improves to the point I can spit out
 something coherent in the moment. Oddly enough, I can usually manage a
 fine or at least a passable off-the-cuff break in a jam, but when the
 crunch comes all those good ideas seem inaccessible. val

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action

2010-11-09 Thread Robin Gravina
yeah... gimme some

actually, I read this article, which is worth a regular look at:

http://www.mandozine.com/resources/CGOW/mikecompton2.php

got my spark plug feelers out and found my action was much lower than the
5/64 of an inch (or 2mm if you use a sane system for measuring), and jacked
it up, changed the strings, without worrying too much about having a
radiussed fretboard, not very radiussed bridge and so on... put the E and G
at about 2mm and suddenly the thing is singing. Then I remembered elliptical
tremolo from the same article: loose wrist, circular motion, tried doing
that thing I had been thinking about whereby you double stop tremolo from
one string to another rather than both strings equally, and some of the
sounds I had been working for came...

And it's funny how once the tone starts working the rhythm seems easier and
more natural.

So yes, I had a nice bank holiday today!

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Magic mandolin

2010-11-06 Thread Robin Gravina
I was at a sort of sustainable, ecological trade fair today (hunting
down some good organic veggies), and talked to a tabla player who was
selling sitars and other instruments, including an Indian mandolin.
I mentioned that I had heard of the classical indian mando player
through Deep (where  are you Deep?), and it turns out they had played
together on many occasions... Guy has a shop in Barcelona.
Amazing to watch a good tabla player up close, bought my daughter an
indian mouth harp... Life is tolerable!
Best
Robin


2010/11/6, Pat Murphree phreem...@comcast.net:
 Mike,

 You look good in anything you play!

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 From: mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com
 To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, November 3, 2010 9:20:28 AM
 Subject: Re: Letterman!

 Oh come on now, ya'll just walk it off! I made myself a promise long
 ago that if there was enough zeros on the check I'd put on a tie. So
 I'm keeping my word. As much as I like a pair of bibs(and despise a
 belt), when everybody else is dolled up it seems (and looks) a bit
 callous to ignore the dress code.

 The pickup is a Baggs Radius. The cable hookup is just a regular male
 end cable. Nothing fancy. I have been running it through a very small
 pedal board with mini amp/boost, ART tube preamp, power supply, and
 tuner and all that through a Fishman Loudbox Performer and used that
 for my monitor. The other end was run into a DI box. But for the last
 four shows I just ran it either straight into a DI and used a wedge
 for monitor or used a rented amp without pedal board. Too much stuff
 to worry about. More gizmos...gimme more gizmos...

 As for playing with drums, yea, it relieves me of having to play all
 the time and lets me just play pads and fills and rhythm when I want,
 to subdivide the rhythm and play accents on the melody line instead of
 just play chops. Plus, it's a BIG help not having to carry so much of
 the load.

 Now, let's all chip in and by David Davis some Geritol!
 Tbugger

 On Nov 2, 3:30 pm, Trey Young email_t...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Sounded good up there with those drums and that electric dobro Sir Tater.
 Is this your first go round with drums? Do you find yourself altering your
 playing much, with the drums?
 -Trey

 On Tue Nov 2nd, 2010 10:37 AM EDT Mark Seale wrote:

 I enjoyed the music... I saw EC and company in Austin last year in the
  first
 go round and it was very good. But Tater wearing a belt? That's just
 wrong...

 M

 On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 3:02 AM, Linda lj...@intas.net.au wrote:

  Its different but nothing wrong with an extra pay check. The band all
  looked good, music making was good.

  I know there are some mando feature spots in the project, or presume
  so, just not on the Letterman cllip. Dang.

  Would have been good though to see a real deal bluegrass effort,
  ahem . on Letterman.

  linda

  On Nov 2, 3:36 pm, Mark Seale mark.se...@gmail.com wrote:
   Tater's on Letterman with Elvis Costello tonight. I can't really
   count
  all
   of the things wrong with this. He's plugged in. It ain't Monroe. And
  the
   biggest sin of all no bib overalls... For shame!

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Re: Taste

2010-10-21 Thread Robin Gravina
So, hands up who's got any Elton John on the ipod... And who's going
to get some now ;-)

2010/10/22, Don adobeinthepi...@gmail.com:
 Learning to Crawl is exactly The Pretenders album on my ipod. I'm
 now downloading Norman Blake's newest album from Amazon, Rising Fawn
 Gathering, with Norman, Nancy, the Boys of the Lough, and James Bryan.
 I'm looking forward to listening to that one. I may be up late!

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Re: Taste

2010-10-20 Thread Robin Gravina
Well I haven't had enough, but that's the way I am.
Actually, I've noticed that we Taterbuggers seem to be a very open
bunch with wide ranging, eclectic but passionate tastes, and not only
musical. I have been on various other groups and this has not been the
case: flatpickers seem to talk about Tony Rice, and er... Tony Rice,
and other groups have also been more one-dimensional.
I wonder if a group based around emotionally charged music attracts
the sort of people who like their emotions strong, and plenty of them?
Back to the stove.


2010/10/20, nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net:
 My collection goes from Bach, Beethoven, etc.  through AC/DC, the Grateful
 Dead, the Beatles, Bob Dylan, the Dead Kennedys, the Cult, ZZ Top, U2, Iggy
 Pop, REM, Mariachi, Celtic and Bob Marley.  In other words...you name it and
 I just might have it.

 These days I tend to stay on the earthier side of things, mainly listening
 to Monroe and Hartford.  Here and there, I mix things up with some Dwight
 Yoakam, Lyle Lovett (who I am seeing here pretty soon), Sizemore, Tater, Old
 Time and such.

 Lately I have been listening to that new Caleb Klauder disc and can't eject
 it yet.  That fella is on to a good thing.

 I think music connects very deeply within us.  Why do certain flavors make
 me really happy and some not affect me much at all?  Is it a nerve/taste bud
 response to sugar or acid?  Who knows?  (I bet Adam does).

 I would ramble further but I figure anyone reading this has probably already
 had enough.

 Nelson





  On Wed 10/20/10  1:30 PM , Mark Seale mark.se...@gmail.com sent:
 On a recent roadtrip I put my iTunes on shuffle for all music.  In a
 5 song span I heard Allison Krauss, Rob Zombie, George Straight, The
 Who, and Bajofondo.  I listen to everything.

 M
 On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 9:38 AM, 14strings  wrote:
 Gotta admit...I'm all over the map
 Charlie Parker to Charlie McCoy
 Bill Evans to Bill Monroe
 Frank Sinatra to Frank Zappa
 Andy Statman to Andy Irvine
 Hendrix and yes even Prince sometimes and on and on and on...
 On Oct 19, 9:09 pm,  wrote:
  Peers to me what we got here is a bunch of narrow old farts.
 I'm not, I like lots of different kinds of music, old time,
  bluegrass, old country and Irish fiddle tunes, but not all of it.
 See, I am eclectic. (Looked that up) However, I too kissed
  a few frogs on the way to this revelation.
 
  Clyde Clevenger
  Just My Opinion, But It's Right
  Salem, Oregon
  Old Circle
 
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Taste

2010-10-19 Thread Robin Gravina
Where does it come from?

When I was a child I was exposed only to classical music: Wagner mainly due
to family connections, but plenty of Mozart and other things, and I listened
and thought I appreciated, until one day under the covers I heard the Sex
Pistols, the Damned and the Ramones on  a radio I had built myself (John
Peel of course): 1976 and me with 13 tender years. I just loved the early
Punk groups but then  I discovered country blues with John Hurt, Skip James
and early Chicago: Little Walter and so on at 17- all through a guitar
player who worked through the Stephan Grossman books between fixes. I had a
massive hardcore reggae phase - U-Roy and the Dub masters in general - King
Tubby and Scientist. I was an obsessive Velvet Underground fan for a while,
loved Black Flag and Skate Punk, Nick Cave and the Fall, worshipped amateur
ramshackle groups like the Raincoats, the Slits and the Cravats.

But I just can't stop listening to Monroe at his wildest, Hartford, and old
Fiddle players - I have to admit that I don't really like many mandolin
players, despite my decision to practically abandon the guitar to learn how
to play the thing, but there's something about the real old time music that
just grabs me. I could listen to Monroe exclusively for days and days. If I
learnt the piano, I wouldn't try to play like Art Tatum, Errol Garner, or
Bill Evans, much as I like them, but would go for boogie woogie or
barrelhouse. What is it about few chords, wild energy and free expression of
bad emotions that does it for me? Ali Farka touré does the same thing, but
so do Flipper and Big Daddy Kane. In the end, I wonder if chords and harmony
are just a distraction. Melody, rhythm and texture are what I love.

Ok, that's off my chest! Needed to say that. I love music.
Best
Robin

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Re: Old Virgina Reel

2010-10-18 Thread Robin Gravina
Winter in Vermont and ice on my car in Madrid this morning.
The A. Powers mandolin is very nice though, whether it's reeling or not. I
tried hitting the C natural on the A string too, in the B part which sounded
good to me. Where is the Tater version of one of the Old Virginia Reels to
be found?
Best
Robin


On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Val Mindel vmin...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've got the same two cuts, but also have Charlie Walden (master
 Missouri fiddler) at my house right now, so I asked him. He believes
 Bob Christeson took his version of Old Virginia largely from memory,
 which might explain differences. There are lots of differences between
 the Powers family (even when you get to the actual bit where they're
 playing the tune) and Hartford. Who knows? I like the way Tater plays
 it, which is the way I'm trying to play it on the mandolin. Meanwhile
 is it Audrey or Aubrey on the Powers cut doing the slice of mandolin
 rehearsal? That tune is definitely not Old Virginia unless she/he is
 living in some other universe. Meanwhile there's snow on Mt Snow so I
 guess winter is officially here in Vermont best, val

 On Oct 16, 12:09 pm, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com wrote:
  I'm flicking through the Christeson Fiddle book and did 'Old Virginia
 reel',
  but when I looked for it on my ipod, I found Hartford and the Fiddling
  Powers Family but the tune seems to be completely different... Is it my
  ears? my reading? or a different tune?
  Best
  Robin

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Old Virgina Reel

2010-10-16 Thread Robin Gravina
I'm flicking through the Christeson Fiddle book and did 'Old Virginia reel',
but when I looked for it on my ipod, I found Hartford and the Fiddling
Powers Family but the tune seems to be completely different... Is it my
ears? my reading? or a different tune?
Best
Robin

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Re: MC on Hartford recordings

2010-10-16 Thread Robin Gravina
Now spatula in hand and listening to the hartford/tater show. Had to
replay the crosseyed child and roanoke a couple of times, but the
whole thing is just masterful. Sparse instrumentation can do anything
in the right hands. any more recommendations?


2010/10/15, Linda lj...@intas.net.au:
 Finally scored the recommended files...
 seems the first of my two browsers had a security setting that would
 not allow use of the Sugar Meg site, but the second one did!  And my
 what a great show that was...heaps and heaps of great idears for
 mando  to try and wonderful playing by Sir Compton and the others.

 Thanks for the links, am going for the Blake Monroe one later.
 linda



 On Oct 15, 6:49 am, Jim Roy jim...@sisqtel.net wrote:
 What is the name of the Blake /Monroe set.  I can't seem to find it.
 Thanks.

 On Oct 14, 11:40 am, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com wrote:

  Thanks to whoever mentioned Blake with Monroe. It was a pain to
  download as you have to do each track one by one, but now I'm in the
  kitchen very happily cooking, glass of wine at hand and in no hurry to
  put dinner on the table. In fact I may do a first course and some
  pintxos. Great stuff from both with some incendiary Monroe solos that
  lean over the edge of the cliff, look like they are going to fall and
  then teeter back grinning at the fooled, heart-in-mouth audience.
  Ha, more wine I think!

  2010/10/9, Linda lj...@intas.net.au:

   Well its a great resource, all those wonderful looking Hartford files,
   however, I gather to access the files on the Steam Powered site, one
   must first get Smart FTP, install (which i did)  and then somehow
   communicate with various servers to set things up..then I gather its a
   breeze.  I ain't about to do that..as I don't know how, not sure i
   want server stuff out there like that anyway..etc.

   Then Sugar Megs, well all looks good, go to list, select file, click
   to listen with windows media open as suggested, only to get a BLACK
   SCREEN.  Then click to down load and get the same BLACK SCREEN.  There
   is little supporting information there, they must think ..heck
   everyone knows this stuff.

   Discouraged and a little cross!
   where is the 'computers for dummies' book, sign me up.
   double dang and blast!
   linda

   On Oct 9, 12:09 am, Trey Young email_t...@yahoo.com wrote:
   Don,
     There is one from I believe Asheville from the very next night and
   this
   time,
   I think, it's Jerry McCoury on bass and Bob Carlin floats in and out
   if I
   recall
   correctly.  I personally like the GA Theatre show better, but both
   are
   like a
   text book to me.  Also, on the SPPS site there was a great recording
   of an
   impromptu set, believe it was during a setbreak for the Country
   Gentlemen,
   featuring Norman Blake on guitar and Mr. Bill Monroe on mandolin.  It
   blew
   me
   away...

   
   From: Don adobeinthepi...@gmail.com
   To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
   Sent: Thu, October 7, 2010 9:35:27 PM
   Subject: Re: MC on Hartford recordings

   Trey,

   Thanks for that tip on the live recording. I found over at the Steam
   Powered site. It's listed under Hartford1997-05-30_DSBD  Any more
   trio
   shows like that? Ole Tater works mighty hard to fill out the sound on
   the mandolin. Some world-class rhythm and backup playing right there.

   Don

   On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Holstein st...@senatorgroup.com.au
   wrote:
Thanks to all, that's why I love this group.
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Re: Going out on a limb.

2010-10-15 Thread Robin Gravina
Loud ones?

If I saw one of those, I would pick it up in a flash!


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 I may be with this one, but when I saw it I had to have it. Now I just have
 to figure out what tunes might suit it...


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Re: MC on Hartford recordings

2010-10-14 Thread Robin Gravina
Thanks to whoever mentioned Blake with Monroe. It was a pain to
download as you have to do each track one by one, but now I'm in the
kitchen very happily cooking, glass of wine at hand and in no hurry to
put dinner on the table. In fact I may do a first course and some
pintxos. Great stuff from both with some incendiary Monroe solos that
lean over the edge of the cliff, look like they are going to fall and
then teeter back grinning at the fooled, heart-in-mouth audience.
Ha, more wine I think!


2010/10/9, Linda lj...@intas.net.au:
 Well its a great resource, all those wonderful looking Hartford files,
 however, I gather to access the files on the Steam Powered site, one
 must first get Smart FTP, install (which i did)  and then somehow
 communicate with various servers to set things up..then I gather its a
 breeze.  I ain't about to do that..as I don't know how, not sure i
 want server stuff out there like that anyway..etc.

 Then Sugar Megs, well all looks good, go to list, select file, click
 to listen with windows media open as suggested, only to get a BLACK
 SCREEN.  Then click to down load and get the same BLACK SCREEN.  There
 is little supporting information there, they must think ..heck
 everyone knows this stuff.

 Discouraged and a little cross!
 where is the 'computers for dummies' book, sign me up.
 double dang and blast!
 linda

 On Oct 9, 12:09 am, Trey Young email_t...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Don,
   There is one from I believe Asheville from the very next night and this
 time,
 I think, it's Jerry McCoury on bass and Bob Carlin floats in and out if I
 recall
 correctly.  I personally like the GA Theatre show better, but both are
 like a
 text book to me.  Also, on the SPPS site there was a great recording of an
 impromptu set, believe it was during a setbreak for the Country Gentlemen,
 featuring Norman Blake on guitar and Mr. Bill Monroe on mandolin.  It blew
 me
 away...

 
 From: Don adobeinthepi...@gmail.com
 To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thu, October 7, 2010 9:35:27 PM
 Subject: Re: MC on Hartford recordings

 Trey,

 Thanks for that tip on the live recording. I found over at the Steam
 Powered site. It's listed under Hartford1997-05-30_DSBD  Any more trio
 shows like that? Ole Tater works mighty hard to fill out the sound on
 the mandolin. Some world-class rhythm and backup playing right there.

 Don

 On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Holstein st...@senatorgroup.com.au
 wrote:
  Thanks to all, that's why I love this group.
  H

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Re: Movie planned about life of Bill Monroe

2010-09-17 Thread Robin Gravina
I guess anything could happen, but it seems good that T-bone and
family seem to be heavily involved. I could easily be wrong, but it
seems as if he is someone who respects the music totally, but can also
do things with it in the interest of telling a story.

And Monroe's music deserves to be exposed to a wider audience as the
passionate beast it is.



2010/9/17, Linda lj...@intas.net.au:
 I suppose they will use original Monroe music tracks then.  I admit
 the movie is going to be interesting to me.  Mr. Monroe had a
 turbulent personal life, and it will be interesting to see part of the
 story.  Might like to see about getting the book too.
 linda
 ps Nelson, I best you are right.

 On Sep 18, 6:07 am, nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote:
 Surely they are just showing him how to finger-sync kinda.

 I'd bet his playing ain't no part of nuthin'.
 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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 Sender: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
 Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 13:13:41
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 Reply-To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Movie planned about life of Bill Monroe

 Lol. That was the same thing I said. Don't you mean Kentucky? Mandolin
 lessons in Kentucky.

 Terry Bullin tbull...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Peter Sarsgaard, 39, is cast as Monroe.

 I talked to Peter
  on the phone the other day, Woodward said. He was in New York taking
 mandolin lessons. He plays guitar, but he needs to be able to play
 mandolin for the movie.

 Yea, I'm sure after a couple of lessons in NEW YORK, he will have no
  trouble playing rawhideyea right.   What I want to know is who's
  going to teach him to sing like Bill?   Good luck with that!

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 From: johnhga...@aol.com johnhga...@aol.com
 Subject: Movie planned about life of Bill Monroe
 To: m...@yahoogroups.com, deepgr...@yahoogroups.com,
  taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
 Date: Friday, September 17, 2010, 11:32 AM

 Saw a link on mandolincafe.com to another article about the Bill Monroe
  movie that's in the works...

 

 John

 

 

 http://www.californiachronicle.com/articles/yb/149878570

 

 Producer hopes to shoot part of film in Rosine and Owensboro

 Sept. 16--Bessie Lee Mauldin was 17 when she met Bill Monroe in the fall
  of 1938.

 He had just turned 27, was already a singing star with his brother,
  Charlie, in the Monroe Brothers -- and was married.

 But three years later, Monroe, by then a member of the Grand Ole Opry,
  moved Mauldin to Nashville and made her his road girlfriend, Richard
  D. Smith wrote in Can't You Hear Me Callin', his 2000 biography of
  the father of bluegrass music.

 Over the next four decades, Monroe and Mauldin had a turbulent romance
  that inspired several major bluegrass songs -- apparently including
  Blue Moon of Kentucky, Smith wrote.

 Now, a Hollywood company is gearing up to film a movie based on Smith's
  book. And the producer, Trevor Jolly, hopes to shoot part of it in
  Owensboro and Monroe's hometown of Rosine, he said in an e-mail.

 I've read the script, said Owensboro businessman Terry Woodward, who is
  vice chairman of the International Bluegrass Music Museum. It's a love
  story about Bill and Bessie Lee.

 And that worries Campbell Mercer, executive director of the Jerusalem
  Ridge Foundation, which owns Monroe's childhood home and farm in Ohio
  County.

 My concern is that the film not make a mockery of Bill, Mercer, a
  keeper of the Monroe flame, said Tuesday. It's based on a book by
  Richard D. Smith. It was a book that needed to be written, but it was
  written by the wrong guy.

 Mercer would prefer a movie that focused on Monroe's music, not his
  infidelities.

 But Mauldin is considered to have been Monroe's muse.

 Their child, which she gave up for adoption, according to the book,
  inspired the song, My Little Georgia Rose.

 And Mauldin, a bass player with Monroe's Blue Grass Boys off and on for
  two decades, played on 99 of Monroe's recordings.

 Reminded that the soundtrack for Bonnie and Clyde, the 1967 movie about
  gangsters Clyde Barrow and Bonnie Parker, contained a lot of bluegrass
  music and brought a lot of new fans to the genre, Mercer said, This
  time I'm afraid Bill is going to be Clyde.

 Funny stories out there

 Still, he says, there are some awful funny stories about Bill and Bessie
  Lee out there, including one about Mauldin wrestling another of
  Monroe's girlfriends to the ground in North Carolina.

 Maggie Gyllenhaal, 32, who was nominated for an Oscar for her role in
  last year's Crazy Heart, recently told ScreenCrave.com that she will
  portray Mauldin in the movie. Her husband, Peter Sarsgaard, 39, is cast
  as Monroe.

 I talked to Peter on the phone the other day, Woodward said. He was in
  New York taking mandolin lessons. He plays guitar, but he needs to be
  able to play mandolin for the movie.

 

Re: A couple new videos

2010-09-07 Thread Robin Gravina
Nice - Like the crosstuned Jenny Lynn particularly. What is that mandolin? -
sounds great and makes me want to fiddle with that tuning.

Fun is more fun if you have to work at it right? I'm playing an outdoor gig
on Saturday night - should get home around 2 am, then up at 6.30 for a 30k
mountain running race on Sunday morning. Perhaps these two types of fun are
not that compatible...




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 I've added a couple new videos on youtube. Jesu, Joy of Man's
 Desiring--not bluegrass but all downstrokes, except for the tremolo,
 of course, Julianne Johnson on mandola, and Jenny Lynn crosstuned
 (with capo!!) and regular tuning. Hope y'all aren't laboring too much
 on Labor Day. I'm off to Albuquerque (140 miles one way) to play a
 pizza joint tonight, will get home real late only to jump up and put
 on the ball and chain again. It takes a lot of work to have fun out in
 the middle of nowhere.

 www.youtube.com/manomando09

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Re: A couple new videos

2010-09-07 Thread Robin Gravina
haha!
well as long as I don't put the leopardskin creepers on, I figure I'll be ok
going up the mountain...


On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Mark Seale mark.se...@gmail.com wrote:

 Having raced triathlon and other endurance sports since 1992 and playing
 music all my life, I can assure you, they do NOT lend themselves to
 compatibility.  Mostly it makes for really good stories about how many miles
 into your Sunday morning long run it took to actually wake up and realize
 you did or did not get the right pair of shoes on that morning.  Or whether
 or not you actually put water in that bottle you've been carrying for the
 last 5 miles... empty.

 But, its always fun.  :)

 M


 On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.comwrote:

 Nice - Like the crosstuned Jenny Lynn particularly. What is that mandolin?
 - sounds great and makes me want to fiddle with that tuning.

 Fun is more fun if you have to work at it right? I'm playing an outdoor
 gig on Saturday night - should get home around 2 am, then up at 6.30 for a
 30k mountain running race on Sunday morning. Perhaps these two types of fun
 are not that compatible...





 On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Don adobeinthepi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've added a couple new videos on youtube. Jesu, Joy of Man's
 Desiring--not bluegrass but all downstrokes, except for the tremolo,
 of course, Julianne Johnson on mandola, and Jenny Lynn crosstuned
 (with capo!!) and regular tuning. Hope y'all aren't laboring too much
 on Labor Day. I'm off to Albuquerque (140 miles one way) to play a
 pizza joint tonight, will get home real late only to jump up and put
 on the ball and chain again. It takes a lot of work to have fun out in
 the middle of nowhere.

 www.youtube.com/manomando09

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Re: Bill Bessie Lee movie announced

2010-08-28 Thread Robin Gravina
Much as I believe our Tater is the man for the job, I'd like to hear
that several mandoliners are involved... hear different takes on the
way to make a performance reflect the events and emotions of his
(love) life. I think it would be fascinating. But I guess so would an
interpretation by one person.
So who should play 'letter from my darling?'


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 I don't know what time period this movie will cover but I can't imagine
 anyone but Gene Hackman in the role of Bill Monroe in his later days.

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Re: HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEY!!!!!!

2010-08-24 Thread Robin Gravina
woah. that woke me up. I was having a nice after lunch nap in the kitchen at
work...

Musically been obsessively working on Mississippi Waltz variations,
finishing another song about heartbreak and loss and listening to 'Memories
of John' and Grinderman

Which reminds me: I love listening to the Monroe recordings when the solos
leap out and grab you by the neck through their sheer excitement, clarity...
and volume. Just listen to Monroe hit it on 'Careless Love', for example.

I've noticed recently on some recordings (and Memories of John is one - for
example 'she's gone and Bob's gone with her') that the solos are volumewise
pretty much on a par with the rest of the instruments on several tunes, and
I wish they were louder, particularly mandolin and fiddle. Maybe it's my
ears, my headphones, or is it the aim of getting a more balanced sound?

Whayya think?




On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Steve Cantrell sec...@bellsouth.netwrote:

 Been learnin' tunes and hanging around the house, mostly. Been too damn hot
 to do much.

 I also picked up an iPad this week and have been playing around with that
 thing almost non-stop. Wanted to make it to Monroe Camp this year but have
 been on-call every weekend for two months and don't see it stopping. I like
 the money, but sheesh

 I am heading to Laurel Bloomery, TN for the OT picking there this weekend.
 A couple of nights in a tent, likely a bottle of Johnny Walker. All is well.
 This will be the first festival my wife has attended with me as a picker, so
 looking forward to that as well.

 I have been experimenting with stainless steel strings. Got some D'Addario
 and absolutely loved them. Sounded great from the get-go and only took them
 off when the threat of tetanus was looming. Tried to order some from Elderly
 but they hosed up the order. They made it right but wound up sending Bush
 Monels as a replacement. They're pretty jangly when new and it takes some
 time to wear them in, but they sound great when they hit their stride. I
 have four sets, so I guess that's plenty of time to get used to them.





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 *Subject:* Re: HEY!!

 heard you had a sweet session with an arkansawyer recently.  what was y'all
 workin on?

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 I've run into in a while! What're ya'll doin?
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Re: HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEY!!!!!!

2010-08-24 Thread Robin Gravina
yup - been working on transferring the Taterversion from mandola to
mandolin, without running out of strings... and also on a high version like
the curiously named Old Sausage..

Bangers and mash?



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 On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 8:25 AM,  nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote:
  As in most of life...I am not as cool/good as I want to believe.

 Say it ain't so, Nelson. Say it ain't so.

 I've been working on the Mississippi Waltz too over at the mandocafe
 SAW group. I'm at work and youtube is blocked so I can't send the
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Re: Love Grown Cold

2010-08-20 Thread Robin Gravina
Which reminds me... I could actually look at the sleeve notes to see who the
song is credited to. Love the version on youtube with a younger, more
hirsute Tater on the case


On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 3:06 PM, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.comwrote:

 Lester Flatt sang a couple good versions of it. I first heard it on a
 live Opry show with Bill, Lester, Earl, Chubby and Cedric. So you know
 it goes back a ways. Hartford used to do it about every other show. I
 don't know where it comes from.

 Tbug

 On Aug 19, 6:52 am, Mike Terry mterry2...@gmail.com wrote:
  Was that an old Johnny Bond song ?
 
  On Aug 19, 3:03 am, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Just got my copy of 'Memories of John' and am struck by that song. In
 fact,
   have to do it. But who is it by? I seem to have a version by Red Allen
 on my
   ipod, but I can't find anything out there in googlelandia
   Best
   Robin

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Re: Garfield

2010-08-08 Thread Robin Gravina
So what about the structure? I've been sitting counting bars after
tabbing out Hartford's first time round and learning a sheet music
transcription of Haley I found, and things are wildly different: the A
is the same: all in 4 but the last bar in 6 second time around, but
then Hartford seems to do a B which combines Haley's B and C and puts
the bars as 4 4 4 6 in a regular fashion. Haley does 646 in B and
646 in C. I don't have it in me to count out the Tater/Newbury
version right now!
Anyone want to comment on the why and the wherefore of all this. Just
how it feels, or is there something 'standard'?
Best
Robin

2010/8/5, Don adobeinthepi...@gmail.com:
 Hey, I've got that book! I'll have to look that up tonight. I'm in
 standard tuning in my video.

 On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 11:22 AM, 14strings perrypale...@gmail.com wrote:
 I go with regular tuning for Garfield's...gotta get that low G
 droning. I really like the setting that is in Jeff Todd Titon's
 book. It seems to have all the parts that Hartford plays on the
 Speed album.

 On Aug 5, 12:57 pm, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com wrote:
 So do you all play it in regular tuning, or AEAE?


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Re: Garfield

2010-08-05 Thread Robin Gravina
So do you all play it in regular tuning, or AEAE?

2010/8/5, Steve Cantrell sec...@bellsouth.net:
 Agreed on enjoying these videos. It might put me on the..trail?...of the
 whale.

 Call me Ishmael.





 
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 Sent: Thu, August 5, 2010 5:52:52 AM
 Subject: Re: Garfield

 Thar she blows! this is a nifty little thread and thanks to those who
 offered up their versions of this tune for perusal, i like being able
 to view and listen to these different takes on the tune, i have to say
 to Don that i do like your version, it almost seems more like an Old
 World Irish/Scottish tune when played like that,

 again, thanks folks

 On Aug 1, 2:05 am, Don adobeinthepi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Would someone who knows this tune tell me if I'm on the trail of the
 whale or if I've been blown way off course? Took some from slowing
 down Tater's version on NBB and changed some things so I could play
 it. Still way slow.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COnJ6gjf8wg

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Re: More GDGD fun

2010-07-19 Thread Robin Gravina
makes you more open minded?

On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Fred Keller fkel...@scicable.net wrote:

 Leatherwing Bat.  Just arranged this so it's raggedy-assed but what the
 heck.  It may take a few minutes yet for youtube to get the whole thing
 processed so that the vocal syncs with the music.  Another tip for GDGD
 playing is that if you slap a capo on the 2nd fret you've got open A tuning
 available.

 Oh, and cutting off the top of my head actually does help my interpersonal
 relationships.

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Re: with glasses, eyebrows and moustache

2010-07-14 Thread Robin Gravina
That's where these came from - a party store. There must be lots of secret
mandolinists out there storing these things up. Perhaps the people who do
the taterbug picks could mould something out simulated tortoiseshell...


On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Linda lj...@intas.net.au wrote:

 Hobart has a party store that used to sell those noz/glasses but he
 says they are on back order, been asking for months.

 Robin great tonegood to see.
 I bet one can find em on ebay...
 must look soon.
 linda

 On Jul 14, 12:13 pm, mandoho...@comcast.net wrote:
  Great job Robin, and you looked lovely. Spain, World Champions? What
 sport? Football, Basketball, Baseball
  or Wrestling? :)
 
  Clyde Clevenger
  Just My Opinion, But It's Right
  Salem, Oregon
  Old Circle
 
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  Subject: with glasses, eyebrows and moustache
 
  And to celebrate (more) Spain being World Champions, here we go with two
 efforts of Monroe tunes.
 
  Mississippi Waltzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAYrYh7eNSY
 
  and I'd Like to be over Yonderhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZsntWjMrBI
 
  Good exercise, even if it's just to try and not let the camera spoil the
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Re: Lyrics and songwriting

2010-07-14 Thread Robin Gravina
Ha, and the songs about existential darkness are relevant for even longer. I
admire people who can write about current events with any kind of result: I
get bogged down in songs which try to sum up timeless truths or situations
in a few words. But why not let's talk about songwriting?

Any differences between figuring something out mandolin in hand or with a
guitar or keyboard? Do you prefer to look for other varieties of three chord
songs, or to use a bunch of fancy ones? Start with a concept, a melody,
words? Deliberately try to put in quirks, or just let it go how it feels?

I find that the ones I write with a mandolin tend to be groovier, don't know
why!





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 Any of you folks dabble in songwriting and lyrics? My band has a new
 album coming out so I'm getting all my BMI and copyright stuff
 together...not that it really matters ;) Anyway all the news of the
 day made me think of these lyrics I wrote over 20 years ago! Sadly not
 much has changed. Our new album is just as dark; we were all the
 lyrics of base don tales of woe LOL

 Way of the World

 Smell the rain, feel the wind
 Black sky and it’s laced with sin
 Running out of empty space
 Spoiled waters filled with waste

 Oil spill in the seas
 Starving children and their helpless pleas
 Politicians who vote on the hill
 They don’t give a damn they just do what they will

 Can’t you see? Can’t you see?
 This is a vital proposition
 It’s our hope and our mission
 It’s the way of the world

 Fur coats and ivory bone
 Tainted needles and styro-foam
 Wrong color, wrong neighborhood
 Rain forest being stripped of wood

 (c) 1990 Perry Paletta

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with glasses, eyebrows and moustache

2010-07-13 Thread Robin Gravina
And to celebrate (more) Spain being World Champions, here we go with two
efforts of Monroe tunes.

Mississippi Waltz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAYrYh7eNSY

and I'd Like to be over Yonder
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZsntWjMrBI

Good exercise, even if it's just to try and not let the camera spoil the
groove..

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Re: Australia anyone?

2010-07-06 Thread Robin Gravina
Cheers - I'll pass it on to my mates down under
Robin


On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 2:31 PM, David Long bigevemu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Just wanted to drop a quick note to anyone from the list who is down
 under

 I'll be leaving today for a 3 week tour starting at the Redlands Festival
 in Brisbane and ending in Melbourne on the 29th.  I'll post the dates
 below.

 Best,
 David

 9 – 11 July
 Redlands Bluegrass Convention
 QLD
 www.redlandscountry.asn.au/bg.htm
  http://www.redlandscountry.asn.au/bg.htm
 Wed 14 July
 Clarendon Hotel
 Katoomba, Blue Mountains, NSW
 www.clarendonguesthouse.com.au
  http://www.clarendonguesthouse.com.au/
 Thurs 15 July
 Gallipoli Club
 Newcastle, NSW
 Tickets available at the club, at the door on the night and through
 www.bigtix.com.au.
 All enquiries: (02) 4961 2430

 Friday 16 July
 The Harp Hotel
 Tempe (Sydney), NSW
 (02) 9559 6300

 Sat 17 July
 Merry Muse Folk Club
 Canberra, ACT
 http://merrymuse.org.au/wb/
  http://merrymuse.org.au/wb/
 Sun 18 July
 TBA

 Wed 21 July
 Nerrigundah Hall
 Nerrigundah, NSW
 Presented by Nerrigundah Agricultural Bureau Inc.
 Phone (02) 44735340 (work hours) OR
 Email: 
 bodalla...@hotkey.net.auhttps://docs.google.com/document/edit?id=1jsmiPYsxACIvPky9kIUzORSSqmI6I0uBJA_nyxRZOkcpli=1
 Tickets are limited and advance bookings are essential, NO tickets
 available at the door.

 Thurs 22
 Briagolong Hotel, VIC
 (03) 5145 5202 for bookings




 Fri 23
 Harvester Moon
 Bellarine, VIC
 www.harvestermoon.com.au
 Booking information online

 Sat 24
 Spencer’s Live
 Melbourne, VIC
 www.spenserslive.com
 Bookings online and at the door

 Sun 25
 Guildford, VIC
 Details to be posted shortly

 Tues 27
 Workshop – Yinnar, VIC (See contact details below)

 Wed 28
 Yinnar Community Hotel, Main St Yinnar, VIC
 ww.myspace.com/thestrzeleckistringbusters
 Email - stringbust...@bigpond.com
 Phone: 0427631217

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Big Sciota

2010-07-06 Thread Robin Gravina
Ok, so I am taking my jam seriously and need to work out this song - I
figure if I learn one or two each week while I have some time available I
will get somewhere quick.: I managed to find the basic tune, or various
versions on some sheet music, and to 'Monroe' it a bit, but it would be good
to cannibalise others' versions, and the only one I have is the Skip, hop
and wobble one, which is great, but not at all the way that I would like to
(or am able to) play it. Any ideas for more sources? Any of you do it Monroe
style? There's Howdy Forrester I think... Let me know!

Best
Robin

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Re: Big Sciota

2010-07-06 Thread Robin Gravina
ah! Great, thanks. If I had time I would do all of those!
Cheers


On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 9:14 PM, Don adobeinthepi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Robin,

 Big Sciota was one of the Song A Week tunes over on the mando cafe
 social groups. There will be lots of versions you could get some ideas
 from, including one from me (on page 2 of the thread) where a
 hummingbird buzzes me while I'm playing it. Here's the link to the
 thread which will also have some links to notation and tabs.


 http://www.mandolincafe.com/forum/group.php?do=discussgroup=discussionid=429

 On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Ok, so I am taking my jam seriously and need to work out this song - I
  figure if I learn one or two each week while I have some time available I
  will get somewhere quick.: I managed to find the basic tune, or various
  versions on some sheet music, and to 'Monroe' it a bit, but it would be
 good
  to cannibalise others' versions, and the only one I have is the Skip, hop
  and wobble one, which is great, but not at all the way that I would like
 to
  (or am able to) play it. Any ideas for more sources? Any of you do it
 Monroe
  style? There's Howdy Forrester I think... Let me know!
 
  Best
  Robin
 
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Re: Projects Tater should do in his spare time.

2010-07-06 Thread Robin Gravina
I'd like to hear Mike doing something like an old time blues or jug band -
one of the sheiks or similar. Perhaps with the Chocolate Drops? Something
old time bluesy, but rocking, hokum and with plenty of instruments...


On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 9:26 PM, Alexander, Jeffrey 
jeffrey.alexan...@louisvilleky.gov wrote:

 I think all of those are great.  I particularly like the DelGrosso one
 and the Monroe Mandolin one.

 Louisville Jeff

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 Well I don't know about particular songs but:

 Tater and Uncle Norman...I think Don G. and I have discussed this
 here before.  Tater on mando and 'dola, Norman on guitar and mando.
 Good stuff

 Another Compton and Grier recording!!!

 Compton and Reischman...different styles of BG mandolin.
 Maybe Del on guitar and vocals.

 Comton and Jody Stecher.all old time songs and tunes.

 Tater and Rich DelGrosso..doing down and dirty, gritty blues
 numbers.

 Compton, David Long, Ronnie McCoury, Chris Henry, Skip Gorman. Butch
 Waller, Wake Frankfield, Jody Stecher, Roland Whitea
 Monroe Mandolin Extravaganza.

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Jamming

2010-07-05 Thread Robin Gravina
Hi all
This will be stone obvious to most of you I guess, but I am discovering the
benefits of the jam.  In Madrid there are few opportunities for playing with
other like minded folks - but now the Americana Music Jam has started and
after the second time I am discovering that this is really the way to learn
to play. There is a semi stable core of guitar, double bass, dobro, frailed
banjo and cajón, and last night a harmonica, irish fiddler, singer
songwriter, autoharp and a couple more guitars. The week before there were
three Scruggs style banjos, dobro, clawhammer banjo, no bass, spanish
guitar...

We play whatever comes to mind: the guitarist bass and dobro are able to
play anything it seems and do stuff like Old Sciota, and things with lots of
scary looking chords. I suggest Monroe tunes and songs, there are excursions
into plain blues, original songs, folk tunes.. whatever. Some we sing, some
we don't. We have a Facebook page where people can suggest material for next
week.

Anyway, just diving into a new song with only the chord structure for
guidance is just great practice: it was nervewracking at first, but as my
confidence built, I began launching into solos on unknown material -
sometimes with lamentable results, other times with actual coherence. This
is adding a new dimension to my playing and above all, learning to play
rhythm tastefully and according to each combination of instruments. Also,
listening to better players work their way through solos on unknown material
is great learning. I must admit I could do this all day and all night!

Best
Robin

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Re: Hey!

2010-07-05 Thread Robin Gravina
yes. Please eat a huge bowl of mussels and a large plate of fries with
mayonnaise!
And make sure you have an appetite for when you get to Spain: land of
earthly pleasures.


On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 6:49 PM, Guido Bos gu...@stringwiseacoustics.comwrote:

 Hold on Tater,

 Next weekend when you're in Belgium, there will be great (strong) beers,
 Belgian chocolats, Wafels and mussels with fries.

 How about that as compensation for your healthy bits you are having now :-)

 BTW, is Jerry Douglas and Stuart Duncan also touring with you guys ?

 See you next Saturday (hopefully),
 Guido



 On 05/07/10 18:17, Mike Compton taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:

  Well, I'm sitting in a stairwell in Copenhagen where the internet
  signal is instead of hanging around outside the venue. Apparently
  somebody decided it was a great idea to build a concert hall just
  alongside of an amusement part. Plus, I'm tired of eating fresh
  strawberries and grapes and bread and spring water(yea, I know, what
  an ungrateful bastardG). It's hot in the dressing room. I might have
  to go outside after all. Glad to hear from ya'll. Makes me feel a
  little less disconnected. Be good!
 
  Taterbug
 
  On Jul 5, 7:27 am, Val Mindel vmin...@gmail.com wrote:
  I'm the opposite, reading the notes better than the tab, but many
  music notation programs will allow you to input in one form and output
  in another. Sibelius does, and Finale I think, but probably also some
  of the free/inexpensive software that's around. There's a fiddler in
  the US Midwest who learned tunes from old tune books that way. He
  couldn't read the notes, but by inputing them into a notation program
  and playing it back, he could learn the tunes by ear.
 
  Meanwhile, Deep, it seems to be hotter here in New York City than
  anything I ever ran into in India. best, val
  On Jul 4, 11:39 am, diptanshu roy diptanshu@gmail.com wrote:
 
  really?! i but i cant read anything but tabs... i have picked it up by
 ear
  as much as i can... :( if i see the tab i can better it i think :)


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Re: Hey!

2010-07-04 Thread Robin Gravina
Hey deep. I found regular notation music by googling it. In the end i
found it less stressful to learn it from the music than to tab it out!
Let us know what you decide to do with the long notes
Best, robin

2010/7/4, Guido Bos gu...@stringwiseacoustics.com:
 And what a great tune that is !!


 On 04/07/10 12:56, diptanshu roy diptanshu@gmail.com wrote:

 yes tater! can i get a tab for Garfields blackberry blossm anyhow?

 On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 4:22 PM, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com
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 What's going on? Is anybody talking on this danged thing? P. Tater

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Re: Christeson, Old Time Fiddlers' Repository vols. 1 and 2

2010-06-29 Thread Robin Gravina
I have them ordered through Amazon.com (not co.uk) and they seem to have
been shipped already. I'm in Spain and I usually have no problems using
Amazon.com - would prefer to buy stuff from my local book 'n' paella store,
but if it's obscure stuff then there's no other choice


On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 8:53 PM, Taube taube.ma...@lang.ox.ac.uk wrote:

 Howdy Folks,

 Some time last year (or maybe the year before) I read a reference to
 these books on the Mandolin Cafe Board only to learn they were out of
 print.  As the corresponence progressed,  I suggested that in this day
 and age of printing on demand it should not be too hard to convince
 the University of Missouri Press to reprint, especially as second hand
 copies were trading at several hundred dolars each.

 Now I see that the OTFR vols 1 and 2 are available (listed on the
 University Press' website), but I am having a very hard time
 convincing booksellers and distributors here in the UK that these have
 been reprinted and are not, as both Blackwell (big booksellers) and
 Eurospan (big pulishers' distributor) are reporting: out of print
 (OP), not on any file, or that that the volume 2 reprint is already
 available but volume 1 is coming out some time later.  Aaaarggghhh.

 Having spent the last 39 years either in a library or in the book
 trade (12 years at Blackwells serving American institutional
 libraries) sourcing unusual/rare material (Uzbek language learning
 materials anyone)  I am feeling very frustrated at not being able to
 get my hands on a copy.  Anyone else in the UK (or the US) tried to
 get a set?  Did you have any luck?  What's the trick?

 If anyone has ordered a case and still has some to spare...I'm game.

 Does this mean I have to go through the Amazon with a machete?

 Thanks in anticipation of a reply,

 Best,

 Taube

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just for fun

2010-06-29 Thread Robin Gravina
thought you might all enjoy this I stumbled upon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hx3uPT79oTgfeature=related

Any idea what the guy is doing with his right hand on the Daf (I guess it's
the daf)?

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Re: Interesting Monroe Find

2010-06-19 Thread Robin Gravina
Thanks for posting this. Interesting site, and interesting that it was
Rinzlers first exposure.
I'm currently embroiled in a serious Cramps session while I cook some
baby monkfish, but have downloaded and will give it serious attention
in a bit!
Just have to quote the Cramps: 'I was caught with one whiff of your shoe'
Not many songs out there that make you laugh out loud! RIP Lux Interior.

2010/6/19, Steve Cantrell sec...@bellsouth.net:
 I haven't seen this show on SugarMegs or the like, and thought I would post
 it here. I have been on a hunt for a 1980 show today that seems like a wild
 goose chase and in the process ran across this 1955 recording from the New
 River Ranch. Charlie Monroe joins Monroe for a number of songs in their old
 duo format and he is in fine form. Some really great picking. You can read a
 short excerpt on it here:
 http://www.lib.unc.edu/blogs/sfc/index.php/2009/12/07/the-monroe-brothers-live-at-new-river-ranch-1955/

 And you can find the recording itself here...
 http://www.sendspace.com/file/ox3zk0



 Bill Monroe and the Bluegrass Boys
 05-08-1955
 New River Ranch
 Rising Sun, MD

 SBD

 Various sets with the BGB, Charlie Monroe, and Bill and Charlie.

 DISC ONE

 01. Cheyenne
 02. I Bowed My Head and Cried
 03. Shenandoah Valley Breakdown
 04. Sugar Coated Love
 05. Muleskinner Blues
 06. Wait A Little Longer Please, Jesus
 07. Walkin in Jerusalem
 08. Wheelhouse
 09. When Golden Leaves Begin to Fall
 10. When Cactus Are in Bloom
 11. Footprints in the Snow
 12. Rawhide
 13. Tall Timber
 14. In the Pines
 15. Bugle Call Rag
 16. Girl in the Blue Velvet Band
 17. Uncle Pen
 18. Rocky Road Blues
 19. Get Up John
 20. In the Shadow of the Pines
 21. Willow Garden
 22. Kentucky bound
 23. I Know You'll Understand
 24. What Would You Give?
 25. Nine Pound Hammer
 26. Leave Me Alone Little Darling
 27. Down Where the River Bends
 28. I've Found the Way
 29. Got to Walk That Lonesome Valley
 30. Theme
 31. Katy Cline
 32. Darlin Cory
 33. Lonely Little Robin

 DISC TWO

 01. The World is Not My Home
 02. Roll in My Sweet Baby's Arms
 03. Jack and Mae
 04. You Call That Religion
 05. Little Red Shoes
 06. Lonesome Road Blues
 07. Bile Dem Cabbage Down
 08. Good Morning to You
 09. Band Intros
 10. Bile Dem Cabbage Down
 11. Dear Old Dixie
 12. Crying Holy Unto the Lord
 13. Just a Little Talk with Jesus
 14. Goodbye Old Pal
 15. Roll in My Sweet Baby's Arms
 16. Nine Pound Hammer
 17. This World is Not My Home
 18. I Know My Lord's Gonna Lead Me Out
 19. Workin on a Building
 20. Sally Goodin
 21. Watermelon on the Vine
 22. Fire on the Mountain
 23. Lonesome Road Blues
 24. Rose of Old Kentucky
 25. Molly and Tenbrooks
 26. I'm Going Back to Old Kentucky
 27. White House Blues
 28. Feast Here Tonight
 29. He Will Set Your Fields On Fire
 30. Foggy Mountain Top
 31. Dance All Night
 32. I'm On My Way Back to the Old Home (Decca)
 33. Rawhide (Decca 46392)
 34. Letter to my Darling (Decca 46392)
 35. In the Pines (Decca 28146)
 36. Pike COunty Breakdown (Decca 28356)
 37. Bringin in the Georgia Mail (Victor)

 
 Bill Monroe Archival Project
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Re: All about Mrs Haley

2010-06-18 Thread Robin Gravina
Much as I do actually prefer to buy music, I downloaded it. I tried to
buy the Rounder ed haley cds, but was frustrated. I found it all in a
fiddler compilation on bittorrent and got the wonderful results.
Hope this helps

2010/6/18, Mark Halpin tomas...@yahoo.com:
 Twenty bucks! It was sixty on Amazon... and that was just for one of
 the albums!!

 Thats why i had to be happy with listening to the thirty second sound
 clips.

 Yeah, thats what i discovered aswell with the irish fiddle tunes, the
 same ones were played every week and the more familiar you are with
 them the more you could add to the overall sound. At first i would try
 to do basic rhythym but  just there was usually a clod of rhythym
 guitars chording so i needed to find some space thats when i found
 that voicing the melody could fit in well with the general carry on
 and done well it, which wasnt often, it does give a nice spur to the
 fiddle/melody playing.

 Strange as it might be for some of youse here, its the Tater's
 elaboration of Mrs. Haley's style that actually first caught my ear,
 its only later through gaining familiarity with his other work that i
 am gaining a stronger appreciation for Monroe elements in his playing
 and through them Mr. Monroe's playing itself.

 On Jun 18, 6:32 pm, erik berry eberr...@gmail.com wrote:
   After
 that experiment, I've tried to to it a little more often. It fills out
 the vocals in a way that's hard to explain if you're not paying
 attention to the mandolin. What I also found is you have to know the
 songs quite well (like anthing else). If you don't know the vocals,
 you can't fake the vocal rhythm.

 My only experience with Mrs. Haley's playing, though, is the tater
 interview and listening to the samples of a Ed Haley reissue at a
 record store until I got asked you gonna buy that? Twenty bucks, had
 to say no, unfortuneately.

 erik

 On Jun 18, 8:28 am, Mark Halpin tomas...@yahoo.com wrote:



  Some of my favorite Tater ventures have to be on 'The Speed of the Old
  Long Bow' and t'other John Hartford old-time-fiddler-tribute albums...
  i dont dance much but i knows they do make for fine jogging musics.

  From one of the old Co-mando interviews Mr. Tate tells that John
  Hartford was looking for something along the lines of what Ela Haley
  was doing on mandolin. Hers how its put in the interview

  'Haley's wife Ela played taterbug (or roundback for you yanks)
  mandolin on the recordings. She played simple chords with a heavy-
  handed rhythm and that's what John said he really wanted me to do. I
  thought it was a very primitive way to play mandolin until I started
  to notice Ela seemed to be playing the melody line, but with chords.
  In other words, her right hand played the melody, her left played
  chords. It's sort of the same thing tap dancers do I guess.'

  Now, given that those Ed Haley recordings seem to be both rare and
  pricey i have'nt much of chance to hear what exactly is going on with
  the original recordings, i'm actually just going through the some mp3
  samples at the moment and i'm beginning to hear the sound i associate
  from the Hartford albums.

  Now i'm wondering if anyone here, not just Mr Taterbug though it'd be
  interesting to hear his views, have paid much attention to Ela Haley's
  playing or have tried to adapt it into their own playing?

  If so, what attracts you to that style of playing, any observations
  about it,  in particular i'd wonder how do you think it sits with the
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Re: The Hospital Blues Waltz

2010-06-08 Thread Robin Gravina
I have the misfortune to commute, and there is a guy who plays
classical guitar on the train everyday.. He's practicing, not
performing, and I admire his cojones (not literally). People who
complain about decent music in public places need a cultural
reeducation and have my sympathy.


2010/6/8, Topher Gayle top...@tophergayle.com:
 That's a great story! Best luck to you and your wife!

 Topher


 On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 12:40 PM,  mandolin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Nice way to try and squeeze some lemonade from lemons. Good on you for
 playing for your wife and those other folks.

 Hope everything goes well with your wife.
 Don

 On Jun 8, 2010 12:40pm, mandoho...@comcast.net wrote:
 My lovely wife, Nikki, has been in the hospital for the past week having
 some heart problems.Docs say she is going to be fine once they get
 everything fixed.  7 days in the CCU is no fun
 for anyone, but I brought along a mandolin and guitar and have been
 playing quietly for her all week.
 Sunday afternoon she was napping, so I went into the lobby and was
 playing
 some waltzes and some
 Irish tunes quietly, no one there, so I figure I'm not bothering anyone.
  Well, someone walking through
 found it offensive and complained to the floor nurse who relayed the
 message to me.  So I put it away
 and went back to Nikki's room..  Now I'm no Tater, but most folks find my
 playing tolerable.  The nurse
 comes into the room and says a couple of bed bound folks would like me to
 come and play in their rooms.
 So I start the hospital tour.  I end up playing in rooms for 2 hours,
 sang
 some gospel songs, and had a
 great time, then had to do it again on Monday.  So, I wrote a tune I'm
 calling the Hospital Blues Waltz
 and it's not bad, if I say so myownself.  Soon as all this crazyness
 settles down and I find my nose glasses
 I'll post it on the Youtube site.  We are hoping Nikki will get sprung
 from the hospital today,  but no word yet.
 So, if life gives you lemons, play the mandolin.

 Clyde Clevenger
 Just My Opinion, But It's Right
 Salem, Oregon
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Re: Digest for taterbugmando@googlegroups.com - 5 Messages in 3 Topics

2010-06-07 Thread Robin Gravina
I'm up for it, but I wonder if they'd let me on the plane with the bulk of
an Iberian Pig... That would make some good barbecue, although the purists
here would probably have a fit...



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 What time of year are we talking Late september?  Looks like
 Meridian is only 8 hours from houston.  I'll bring the cured meats to
 go in the beans and the Belgium style home brew.

 Adam

 On Jun 7, 5:26 am, Val Mindel vmin...@gmail.com wrote:
  I'd do it, and may still contribute to the Nose and Glasses tune site.
  It just takes some of us a while to work up to it.
  val
 
  On Jun 6, 9:23 pm, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
   Okay, it's a done deal then. We'll all meet at Clarko State Park south
   of Meridian and rent about 50 cabins (there's over 200 folks on this
   list) and have a blow out. Hopefully, there'll be more commitment to
   this idea than there way to the 'Nose and Glasses' tune site. Seems
   like I'm the only one that was willing to pay the price.
 
   Taterbug
 
   On Jun 4, 11:25 am, Jonathan Trawick fiddlinarkan...@gmail.com
   wrote: i'll brang the beer and x-lax!  sounds like a great mississippi
 late fall
idea.  get 'r done, tater!
 
jt
 
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 6:09 AM, mistertaterbug 
 taterbugmu...@gmail.comwrote:
 
 Welcome to the food network. G I can see there are a bunch of
 hearty
 eaters here. We should have a taterbugmando group gathering and
 bean
 cookoff. I've have to break out my black bean soup recipe. Smoked
 ham
 hocks, anyone?
 
 Taterator
 
 On Jun 3, 7:16 am, M. Marmot tomas...@yahoo.com wrote:
  Holy Hannah,  Little did we know what was started when the
 subject of
  bean stew was brought up :) Oh, Cassoulet is a mighty fine thing
  indeed in the autumn, especially with some good belgian beer
 and/or
  even a nipper of whiskey for after ;-p Another new found autumn
  favorite is Guinness Stew, oh yum.
 
  Now, with all this talk of bean stews why do i feel the need to
 watch
  Blazing Saddles again?
 
  On Jun 2, 5:28 pm, Adam Paul saltydogli...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   M Cassoulet. smoked hocks, duck confit,
 andouille,
 white
   beans and vegetables, simmered in stock, scented with garlic,
 thyme and
   parsley.  I may need a cigarette.  That is one of my favorite
 fall/winter
   dishes.
 
   Come on Fall, to hell with summer... especially in houston, tx
   Adam
 
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Waltz

2010-06-07 Thread Robin Gravina
Ok, who's feeling intuitive today? I have a Monroe instrumental in my brain
and want to learn it, but in a rapid flick through the ipod I couldn't get
it. Apple need to add something that lets you search by whistling the tune
you want...

It's a slow waltz and starts with a downwards triplet - a bit like the one
in Monroe's Blues. It's mostly tremolo... That should be enough information
for you right?

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Re: Waltz

2010-06-07 Thread Robin Gravina
Yes, got it in one! That's why it's in my head - incessant listening to
Kenny Baker
Thank you Sir!



On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 2:16 PM, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.comwrote:

 Mississippi Waltz?
 Intuitater

 On Jun 7, 7:05 am, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com wrote:
  Ok, who's feeling intuitive today? I have a Monroe instrumental in my
 brain
  and want to learn it, but in a rapid flick through the ipod I couldn't
 get
  it. Apple need to add something that lets you search by whistling the
 tune
  you want...
 
  It's a slow waltz and starts with a downwards triplet - a bit like the
 one
  in Monroe's Blues. It's mostly tremolo... That should be enough
 information
  for you right?

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Re: Lou Martin Newsletter

2010-06-05 Thread Robin Gravina
Ok, that's all too cryptic even for me.
Words of one syllable please, and just enough of them to do the job.

2010/6/5, 14strings perrypale...@gmail.com:
 I learned some things this month:

 That the tune The Train Carryin' Jimmie Rodger's Home was inspired
 by Tater's stories of home.
 I also learned that my x-braced Gilchrist may be unsaleable ;)

 Lou's newsletter has a nice little bit about Tater in this month's
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Re: A-Live Audience?

2010-05-24 Thread Robin Gravina
Not this, but last weekend we had a festival in Cobeña, near Madrid. This
coincided with a biker gathering so we had a guaranteed crowd, but
unfortunately a typical sequence of events for this type of do: huge stage,
15.000 watts of sound and loads of lighting, but then everything set up at
the absolute last minute due to lingering over the lunch table - we got a
three minute sound check and then performed only being able to hear the high
strings of the guitar, and the rest in a total vacuum. The crowd reacted as
you would imagine a large group of stoned and drunk bikers would do - they
continued to drink and get stoned and occasionally whooped. Due to the
absurd lateness of setting up the stage, our set was reduced from 45 do 35
and finally 25 minutes, in order to get the other bands on the stage.
We saw the video afterwards and it didn't sound too bad - miraculously we
actually played together in time, but that was pretty much due to guesswork
rather than any serious ability on our part I think. Next time I'll just ask
them to turn the monitors off and we can stand close together - it is really
no fun singing and playing without being able to hear the others...



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 Howdy All,

 Bo and I had a busy weekend with 2 gigs Sat night (a mad rush from one
 to the other) and a 3rd last night. The first gig was fairly low key
 with about 20 in the seats. It was an intimate venue, quite a narrow
 place and everyone was listening. Not much audience participation
 though and that can be hard. In other words, save the jokes for next
 time!

 The 2nd gig had 200 guests and it was noisy and alive. We went on
 very late and we managed to get some silence but they enjoyed it and
 got into it. We were also much more relaxed and played a better
 performance which led to more fun and more fire in the delivery.

 The final gig last night was in a club and most people seemed to be
 listening with a good degree of attention. The sound was better than
 it has been before at that venue and a very fine banjo player asked to
 join in with us. He has a great reputation and it added nicely to the
 mix. We generally don't like any additions except the odd bass player
 but in saying that, anyone better than we are that wishes to partake
 is hard to refuse. Lots to learn.

 Just wondering watchy'all got up to and how your audiences react??

 HK

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Re: Confession

2010-05-21 Thread Robin Gravina
So recovery IS actually possible?


2010/5/21, Linda lj...@intas.net.au:
 Thanks for that, I think when one is an active parent, the brain goes
 to scrambled eggs, because rarely in the early days can one finish a
 thought without an interruption. So often its difficult to regain the
 mental sharpness after when things get less demanding.   While the
 little tykers are cute and fun and all, they do take a toll which some
 never completely recover from.


 On May 21, 11:06 pm, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:
 There's another one called Collapse that will get you into a frenzy.
 You might give it a look. One that I've found that seems to be
 beneficial for short term memory and reflexes is a download game
 called Mind Medley. There are a number of different games that test
 different parts of your brain; color, shape, position, size
 relationships, etc, all geared to beat the clock. It's very easy to
 get wrapped up and lose track of lots of time, but I think they are
 helpful for a dull mind.

 TBug

 On May 20, 4:05 pm, mgromkey mgrom...@gmail.com wrote:

  Will have to give it a try. If being good at computer games equates
  gives you a leg up on being a good musician, our 13-year-old is ready
  to headline his first world tour. Though come to think of it, he is
  the best violinist in the seventh-grade orchestra. (If only he wanted
  to practice!)

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Re: And now, for the finest in canned meat substance cuisine...

2010-05-19 Thread Robin Gravina
You use organic Spam, right?


On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 4:45 PM, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.comwrote:

   SPAM SKILLET CASSEROLE

  Recipe By :
  Serving Size  : 6Preparation Time :0:00
  Categories: Casseroles   Main dish

   Amount  Measure   Ingredient -- Preparation Method
      
2Baking potatoes, cut into
 -1/8″ slices
1   cn   SPAM Luncheon Meat, cubed
 -(12 oz)
1   cThinly sliced carrots
1   cThinly sliced onions
  1/2   cThinly sliced celery
2Garlic cloves, minced
2   tb   Flour
1   tCoarsely ground pepper
  3/4   tDried whole thyme
1   cn   No-salt-added green beans,
 -drained (16 oz)
1   cn   No-salt-added whole
 -tomatoes, drained and
 -chopped (16 oz)
1   cn   No-salt-added vegetable
 -juice cocktail (5 1/2 oz)
 Butter-flavor vegetable
 -cooking spray

   Cook potatoes in boiling water 3 minutes or until crisp-tender.
   Drain. In skillet, cook SPAM until browned; remove from skillet.
 Add
   carrots to skillet and saute 4-5 minutes, stirring frequently. Add
   onion, celery, and garlic; saute until vegetables are tender.
 Combine
   flour, pepper, and thyme. Stir flour mixture into vegetable
 mixture;
   cook 1 minute, stirring constantly. Add SPAM, green beans, tomato,
   and vegetable juice cocktail. Bring to a boil. Reduce heat and
 simmer
   5 minutes, stirring occasionally. Remove skillet from heat; arrange
   potato slices over SPAM mixture to cover completely. Spray potato
   slices with vegetable cooking spray. Broil 6″ from heat source 10
   minutes or until golden.

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Re: ok guys lets take a look inside

2010-05-06 Thread Robin Gravina
Words fail me!

On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 4:18 PM, deep diptanshu@gmail.com wrote:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pC-49GnjdTEfeature=fvw

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Re: Tater Be Good

2010-05-04 Thread Robin Gravina
Likewise watching the video, wondered what was going to happen! As the man
says, you can make 'the style' work for anything, which is actually a very
comforting thought.


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 As soon as they called that song, I was curious what Mike would do with
 it.  That was classic, I was glad to witness that one.

 Bud

  Someone posted this video of MerleFest MandoMania over on the Cafe.
  Tater applies some Monroe style to Lady Be Good.
 
 
 http://www.mandolincafe.com/forum/showthread.php?61861-MandoMania-Merlefest-2010
 
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Re: My approach to playing the mandolin was completely wrong!!!

2010-04-21 Thread Robin Gravina
Funny.
I had a similar thing last night whilst trying to play a solo that made any
sense at all on a song I had written. In the end I went back to playing a
shuffle on the chords and it sounded just much better: tone and rhythm are
enough to do it


On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 1:18 AM, Linda lj...@intas.net.au wrote:

 cool story

 On Apr 21, 4:59 am, mgromkey mgrom...@gmail.com wrote:
  Just had another an object lesson in all of this, including how
  soloing intersects with adding mandolin to a contemporary, non-
  bluegrass tune.
 
  I was asked to record a solo for a local artist's tune. It's an
  acoustic guitar tracked about four times with some delay and reverb
  added, electric bass, some tasteful drumming and percussion, and the
  vocal. I don't know what to compare it to but a female version of Dave
  Matthews. Lots of driving rhythm guitar. The engineer emailed me an
  mp3 to rehearse with. I imported it into Logic the laptop recording
  software I use, and had at it the night before going in to do my
  take.
 
  First, I just tried pure improv -- just jamming along. It was really
  nice to record myself, because I was able to play it back and see how
  badly it sucked. Nice to see that I can play fast, but not a solo that
  went anywhere. No, not good at all.
 
  Then I fell back on The Manifesto. I cycled through the tune playing
  rhythm enough time to get the chords down. Then I thought: Time to
  learn the melody. And guess what? There really wasn't much melody! The
  lyrics are mostly sung on the same note as the chords. And then I
  realized -- again -- that the reason rock guitar solos don't follow
  the melody is they often have to invent a melody to play, so they're
  not going (single note) G-G-G-G C-C-C-C G-G-G-G.
 
  So instead of improvising (which I really like to do), I made up my
  own little melody over the chords, including some good old fashioned
  bluegrassy tremolo. It sounded a lot better.
 
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Re: Memories of John

2010-04-17 Thread Robin Gravina
Good to read a review of this. Amongst other things, to not forget to
get it. I somehow had the idea it was on preorder or something...
Question: what Ed Haley tunes do you all like to do on the mando?
Robin

2010/4/17, 14strings perrypale...@gmail.com:
 I got this album a few weeks ago and am really enjoying it. It really
 clicked on the third or fourth listen. To me the mark of a good album
 is that is doesn't hit you over the head right away but its subtleties
 creep up on you over time.

 Plenty of Tater on there and there's some licks and stuff I never
 heard from the man.
 Hey Mike...that does not sound like the Gil on Homer the Roamer? Is I
 right?

 Three Forks of Sandy is on my short list; Matt Combs does a great job
 of imitating Hartford imitating Ed Haley. Love the mandolin break too!

 The closing track is Hartford pure drop :)

 I wish Greyfox would hire you guys!

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Re: Anybody Else Experience This?

2010-04-15 Thread Robin Gravina
Yes, I started looking at this recently after all the discussion: really
hard to make it have the flow of the fiddle version, and a conundrum about
how to approach the long notes... must be good for you


On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Fred Keller fkel...@scicable.net wrote:

 On 4/15/10 9:27 AM, Mark Seale wrote:

  I like it in Gm and fairly laid back, like you're milking the notes.

 M

  Mm.  Note milk.

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Re: My approach to playing the mandolin was completely wrong!!!

2010-04-15 Thread Robin Gravina
Nice one! Sounds so simple, but I went through a similar epiphany
under tater instruction, after not really getting it for a long time.
 I would add to never forget that music is about time as much or more
as  melody.


2010/4/15, mgromkey mgrom...@gmail.com:
 OK, Sir Tater told me to post this here, so here goes. ...

 I recently had an epiphany -- like a flash, like a vision written
 across the night sky! -- that everything I'd been doing visa vis the
 mandolin was 100 percent certified bass ackward. Realizing the error
 of my ways, I have written my Mandolin Player's Manifesto, which
 follows. Selah.

 EL MANDOLIN MANIFESTO

 1. LISTEN: The place to start learning any tune is listening to a
 recorded version of it. Lots. Notation and tab are a useful adjunct to
 working out fingering and difficult passages, but shouldn’t be used as
 the primary source.

 2. LEARN THE DAMN CHORDS: When you start playing a tune, the first
 thing to do is learn the chord progression. If you haven’t
 internalized the chord structure, you don’t really know the tune.

 3. NOW, FINALLY, LEARN THE MELODY: Once you know the chords, work up
 the melody line. Do not overly rely on a written arrangement. These
 tunes generally are not intended to be played exactly the same every
 time. Refer back to recorded versions for reference and ideas about
 variations.

 4. REGARDING SOLOS: As a general rule, solos should stick close to the
 melody. There’s nothing wrong with just playing the tune when your
 turn come around. The next step is to work up some variations. It is
 advisable to stick close to the melody and the chord progression. A
 solo is not a collection of fast notes, scales and riffs; it is an
 exposition of the basic melody. * (see footnote)

 5. PLAY NICELY WITH OTHERS: Bluegrass is not a solo endeavor. You
 practice in the living room in order to get good enough to play with
 other musicians in public, whether it’s a backyard jam or a paying
 gig. If you and your mandolin never get off the family room couch,
 you're missing the boat.

 * Solos footnote: Players should avoid coming at bluegrass solos from
 a rock/blues lead guitar perspective. Many rock songs have a simple I-
 IV-V chord structure and minimalist melody. For example, “Johnny B.
 Good” is basically a one-note melody following a three-chord
 progression. Rock/blues guitar solos generally do not stay close to
 the melody to avoid being repetitious. Only Syd Barrett played one-
 note solos -- and he went insane and Pink Floyd kicked him out.

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Re: EC Sugarcanes in Europe

2010-03-31 Thread Robin Gravina
See you in MAD 22nd! Fun.

2010/3/31, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com:
 Howdy folks.
 I just got the updated schedule of the EC  Sugarcanes tour overseas
 for 2010. Grab a coat and let's go. Here it is...

 EC and the Sugarcanes Summer Tour 2010:
 Jun-25  Travel to UK
 Jun-26 Liverpool  rehearsal
 Jun-27 Liverpool  rehearsal
 Jun-28 Liverpool
 Jun-29   Travel
 Jun-30 Israel
 Jul-01 Israel
 Jul-02   Travel
 Jul-03 Athens
 Jul-04   Travel
 Jul-05 Copenhagen
 Jul-06   Travel
 Jul-07   Day Off
 Jul-08 Vienne  (near Lyon France)
 Jul-09   Travel
 Jul-10 Belgium
 Jul-11 Rotterdam
 Jul-12   Travel
 Jul-13 Montreux
 Jul-14   Travel
 Jul-15 Mantova
 Jul-16   Travel
 Jul-17 Naples
 Jul-18 Rome (Tivoli)
 Jul-19   Travel
 Jul-20 Corsica
 Jul-21   Travel
 Jul-22 Madrid
 Jul-23 Huelva
 Jul-24 Sos del Rey Católico
 Jul-25 San Sebastian
 Jul-26   Travel
 Jul-27 Santiago d. Compostela
 Jul-28 Cascais
 Jul-29 Travel home

 Home? Soon as I get back, I'll have to jump in the car and drive to
 West Virginia...
 Taterbug

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Re: I Hear Crickets...

2010-03-28 Thread Robin Gravina
Does europe include españa? I am a (temporarily) free man at that
time, and up for some fun!


2010/3/28, Dennis Fehling denpamc...@msn.com:

 Have a great time Mike.


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 Friends for life dog training
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  EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD
 Join me


 Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 09:48:37 -0700
 Subject: I Hear Crickets...
 From: taterbugmu...@gmail.com
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 Well, I'll be heading off to Angland this coming weekend for a week at
 Sore Fangers. Should be pretty fun. John Reischman's doing the mando
 class acros't the hall from me. Looking forward to getting into some
 mando-mischief there. I'll also see one of the Woodbutcher's best F5's
 which is residing in France currently. Out for that week, then back in
 for a week. Got a 1946 gig in Georgia working for Dave Peterson that
 weekend, then drive like a bat back to Nashburg and fly out on Sunday
 for NYC or Boston one. Then a day and a half rehearsal and two weeks
 of Costello shows ending at Merlefest. I'll catch up with NBB there
 and then home again. I've got a few solo things, some duets and then
 off to Europe end of June for 5 weeks of Costello and Sugarcanes. Home
 for a couple days, then drive to West Virginia and the bluegrass
 version of Augusta Heritage. Home for two more weeks, then off to
 Alaska for a camp there. Thencrickets

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Re: To Band, or Not To Band?

2010-03-16 Thread Robin Gravina
Hell no
We are an incompetent duo with fiddler singer, which makes us a trio, but
obviously the sound has to come from guitar/mando and no bass, no banjo.
It's a terrible job sometimes getting it to sound full and figuring out
where the tune needs to be so we can sing it, get bass notes and a groove,
but I love it, although have to say I have never played in a string band
with bass and so on. I think it means you have to be endlessly inventive
with rhythm and in developing a full sound: no simple chopping for very
long, and no preconceptions of sound. In fact we are not exactly playing
country music, or bluegrass, or country blues, or anything really, although
some of it sounds like that...
I love the fact that we could basically be on the train and stand up and
play with a cup to hand around if necessary. I also love the heartache
involved in analysing why the practice was terrible and the brilliant
feeling, as an hour ago, of coming out of a practice knowing that you are
not only groovy, but that the song you have written suddenly exists outside
of your head and sounds catchy.
Also, frankly with the three of us we have enough arguments to keep all the
personnel of a good sized funk band amused: if we were 4 or 5, things might
get nasty




On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 11:26 PM, Holstein st...@senatorgroup.com.auwrote:

 Howdy Campers,

 Of late, we (that beings Bo'Weavil and myself) seem to be making good
 headway and enjoying playing and arranging as a mandolin / guitar duo
 with all the harmony bells and whistles.

 The very interesting thing, is that people are suggesting that we seem
 to be limiting ourselves by not being a band...When are you going to
 introduce a bass, banjo, fiddle etc etc. If we want to perform at
 some of the festivals and so on, we should have a 'full band', as we
 are not able to represent with just two of us. The positive feedback
 about our actual performances is a bit overwhelming, so it's a bit
 confusing. Maybe we just really suck eggs.

 I like the duo format in this particular case. We seem to make plenty
 of sound together and have lots of fun. There's nobody to hide behind
 and we can't blame anyone for any derailment except ourselves. Nothing
 like the feeling of being out front...stand and deliver. It's exciting
 having to come up with stuff that doesn't sound skinny, and it's a
 challenge to work things between two of us. Initially we did have a
 nice fiddle player start rehearsing, but she didn't appear to have the
 same energy or adventurous spirit. We all had to play breaks and sing.
 Therein was her problem, she was too reserved. So she politely just
 stopped coming and so we had to re-work all pieces and harmonies etc.
 A bit of a distraction really, but now we're flying again. Perhaps
 she'll return later, but for now it's all good.

 I first saw MC perform on stage as a solo act in Brisbane exactly two
 years ago. I sat there and thought to myself...this guy isn't going to
 perform all on his own is he? How is this going to work, I wonder when
 someone else/the others will join him on stage. And then he played!
 Needless to say, I was spellbound for the entire deal. Afterwards I
 was speechless and I didn't have a buck on me to buy his cd so I was
 too embarrassed to go up and say hello.

 I believe certain establishments in TN will not book duos.

 Anyhow, I wondered to myself, what is a band, and what do my friends
 out there think of this 'rule'? Should we compromiseheck no. We're
 having too much fun. I love playing in any format, but we shouldn't be
 held back just because the number is two. Should we?

 Holstein

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Re: F12

2010-03-13 Thread Robin Gravina
Well they haven't got back to me, but i will be a caveated emptor, or
whatever it is

2010/3/13, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com:
 Robin,
 I agree with Dr. Brown. If you can find somebody that will strip the
 lacquer and regraduate the top/back, you might have something. But you
 know that the 'collector' value will be far less if the original state
 is compromised.

 Just a thought...
 Tbug

 On Mar 12, 11:32 pm, Richard Brown docbrownrestd...@hotmail.com
 wrote:
 You might be able to make this mando into a decent instrument with another
 $1500. Gibson really kind of reached their nadir in instrument finishes
 and this f-12 may have may have on of gibson's extra heavy toneguard
 finishes. Some good luthier may have some thoughts of a newfinish,
 regraduating the top or other tricks of the trade that could make the 12
 sound better. After all the instrument has at least 50 or more year old
 wood hidden under the heavy laquer finish. It is at least worth a good
 look! also remember that even a prewar loar may not sound up to snuff
 after sitting aroud unplayed for so many years.Good luckRSB

 From: robin.grav...@gmail.com
 Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:49:25 +0100
 Subject: F12
 To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com

 Hey all you taterbuggers
 I have stumbled across a 1961 Gibson F12 going for around 1500 bucks. I
 haven't had a look at it, but it's apparently mint. Is this potentially a
 good deal, assuming that it sounds like a mandolin and not like a brick?

 Best
 Robin

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Re: grounded, centered, focused

2010-03-13 Thread Robin Gravina
Just figured out the  bones of 'I'd like to be over yonder'. What a fun song
to play, what a load of complicated rhythms to figure out, how impossible to
get that sound exactly the usual stuff.
Thanks Erik for putting me onto this




On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 7:15 PM, erik berry eberr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Oh I know it. I think I've listened to it a few dozen times already. A
 really good record.

 erik

 On Mar 12, 3:01 am, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com wrote:
  It's just great: you could build a house on tracks like 'I'd like to be
 over
  yonder', and the double mandolin on 'My Father's Footsteps' is just
  perfectly phrased, down to the little chokes.
  Undeniably a good start to the day
 
  On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 10:26 PM, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 
 
   Well I bought it as promised, an easy way to get the music quick. I'll
   listen tomorrow with luck. Difficult to spend 7 euros more wisely
 
   2010/3/11, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com:
Wait a minute, was Campbell on the recording? Shizzle, I forgot.
Anyway, Bill was playing *a* fiddle...No, not Baker, sounded more
 like
Brother Birch.
Tbug
 
On Mar 11, 1:18 pm, Mike Terry mterry2...@gmail.com wrote:
Hey Mike, what did Bill sound like on the fiddle? Was he playin the
Kenny Baker type stuff or just playin the melody? Wow, i bet that
 was
quite a moment.
 
On Mar 11, 9:08 am, erik berry eberr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Awesome. Thank you Mike.
 
 erik
 
 On Mar 11, 8:17 am, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Erik,
  I think the whole thing started out as a Robins' recording, but
 when
  he got here he communicated with Monroe and Bill basically
 decided
   to
  come to the session, so the direction of the whole thing
 changed. I
  was there originally to keep Bill 'on track' because he was
   beginning
  to forget some of the songs we did. Funny, because I didn't
 really
  know a few of them that well at the time.
 
  We all sat LA style as you put it. Most of it was done in the
   middle
  of one room without the benefit of baffles. No rhythm tracks and
  layering, just all of us batting it out. On the duet stuff, I
 sat
  right across from Bill, say within 8-10 feet. Sure, I was
 nervous.
   But
  I learned more those couple days about Bill's right hand than I
 had
   in
  decades previous. It became obvious quickly that I had to match
 his
  tremolo to make the duet blend, not only the speed of it, but
 the
  feel, the 'lope'. Bill wouldn't even play Tanyards, couldn't
  remember it. He told Butch to let me play it. I told him I
 didn't
  think I could do a better job of it than he could. He said, I
 know
  so, so I shut up. Nothing like being put on the spot by the
   Bossman.
  Buddy Spicher was on that cut too, I believe.
 
  Bill came to the session dressed in a suit and one of his
 Stetsons.
  All the rest of us came ragged out in tee shirts and jeans. The
 old
  school guys came to the studio dressed up and ready for 'work'.
 A
   few
  of the girlfriends came along. Of course Bill flirted with them.
 I
  remember one of the days everybody piled out for lunch and left.
 I
  didn't go for some reason. After hanging out in the break area
 for a
  while I went back into the studio and slipped up on
  Monroe playing Campbell's fiddle, playing Muleskinner Blues
 real
  quiet. I listened a little bit and then said, I didn't know you
  played the fiddle, Bill. He did one of those moves a possum
 will do
  when he's wanting to be invisible..you don't see me, you
 don't
  see me...; he put the fiddle down really slow and turned clean
   around
  in the chair and just sat there like he'd been that way all
 along.
 
  All in all it was sort of a whacky project. Randy Howard played
 some
  pretty spectacular 'contest' style solos, Dewey Farmer did his
  psychedelic hotrod style mandolin, Buddy Spicher brought
 integrity
   to
  the tunes, Butch ran around keeping it moving along despite all
 the
  rest of us giving him a fun-loving hard time.
 
  I reckon it was the first time I'd worked with Butch and
 certainly
  with Bill. Seems like we did another batch of tunes someplace
 else,
  the one that included ...Over Yonder. I don't know where any
 of
   that
  stuff went.
  Tbug
 
  On Mar 10, 10:24 am, erik berry eberr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   I just bought my first-ever download MP3 record (welcome to
 2010
   Erik!) and it was Butch Robins' record. It's really cool. I'm
   pretty
   sure I can tell which tracks have just Mike on them, but boy,
 the
   Monroe-Compton duets are really slick. Hard to tell where one
   starts
   and the other stops. I like Butch's banjo playing and singing
 a
   whole
   lot too, which is great, since I basically got

Re: grounded, centered, focused

2010-03-12 Thread Robin Gravina
It's just great: you could build a house on tracks like 'I'd like to be over
yonder', and the double mandolin on 'My Father's Footsteps' is just
perfectly phrased, down to the little chokes.
Undeniably a good start to the day


On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 10:26 PM, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.comwrote:

 Well I bought it as promised, an easy way to get the music quick. I'll
 listen tomorrow with luck. Difficult to spend 7 euros more wisely

 2010/3/11, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com:
  Wait a minute, was Campbell on the recording? Shizzle, I forgot.
  Anyway, Bill was playing *a* fiddle...No, not Baker, sounded more like
  Brother Birch.
  Tbug
 
  On Mar 11, 1:18 pm, Mike Terry mterry2...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hey Mike, what did Bill sound like on the fiddle? Was he playin the
  Kenny Baker type stuff or just playin the melody? Wow, i bet that was
  quite a moment.
 
  On Mar 11, 9:08 am, erik berry eberr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Awesome. Thank you Mike.
 
   erik
 
   On Mar 11, 8:17 am, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
Erik,
I think the whole thing started out as a Robins' recording, but when
he got here he communicated with Monroe and Bill basically decided
 to
come to the session, so the direction of the whole thing changed. I
was there originally to keep Bill 'on track' because he was
 beginning
to forget some of the songs we did. Funny, because I didn't really
know a few of them that well at the time.
 
We all sat LA style as you put it. Most of it was done in the
 middle
of one room without the benefit of baffles. No rhythm tracks and
layering, just all of us batting it out. On the duet stuff, I sat
right across from Bill, say within 8-10 feet. Sure, I was nervous.
 But
I learned more those couple days about Bill's right hand than I had
 in
decades previous. It became obvious quickly that I had to match his
tremolo to make the duet blend, not only the speed of it, but the
feel, the 'lope'. Bill wouldn't even play Tanyards, couldn't
remember it. He told Butch to let me play it. I told him I didn't
think I could do a better job of it than he could. He said, I know
so, so I shut up. Nothing like being put on the spot by the
 Bossman.
Buddy Spicher was on that cut too, I believe.
 
Bill came to the session dressed in a suit and one of his Stetsons.
All the rest of us came ragged out in tee shirts and jeans. The old
school guys came to the studio dressed up and ready for 'work'. A
 few
of the girlfriends came along. Of course Bill flirted with them. I
remember one of the days everybody piled out for lunch and left. I
didn't go for some reason. After hanging out in the break area for a
while I went back into the studio and slipped up on
Monroe playing Campbell's fiddle, playing Muleskinner Blues real
quiet. I listened a little bit and then said, I didn't know you
played the fiddle, Bill. He did one of those moves a possum will do
when he's wanting to be invisible..you don't see me, you don't
see me...; he put the fiddle down really slow and turned clean
 around
in the chair and just sat there like he'd been that way all along.
 
All in all it was sort of a whacky project. Randy Howard played some
pretty spectacular 'contest' style solos, Dewey Farmer did his
psychedelic hotrod style mandolin, Buddy Spicher brought integrity
 to
the tunes, Butch ran around keeping it moving along despite all the
rest of us giving him a fun-loving hard time.
 
I reckon it was the first time I'd worked with Butch and certainly
with Bill. Seems like we did another batch of tunes someplace else,
the one that included ...Over Yonder. I don't know where any of
 that
stuff went.
Tbug
 
On Mar 10, 10:24 am, erik berry eberr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I just bought my first-ever download MP3 record (welcome to 2010
 Erik!) and it was Butch Robins' record. It's really cool. I'm
 pretty
 sure I can tell which tracks have just Mike on them, but boy, the
 Monroe-Compton duets are really slick. Hard to tell where one
 starts
 and the other stops. I like Butch's banjo playing and singing a
 whole
 lot too, which is great, since I basically got the record for the
 mandolinin' on it. A number of cuts I can't wait to share with my
 banjo player (Doin' My Time and Short'nin' Bread, to name two).
 
 Mr. C--great work on that disc. If you have a notion and a few
 minutes
 to talk about it, I'd appreciate hearing some stories. If you need
 a
 question or two I'll pitch some at you. Was this the first time
 you
 worked with Bill and/or Butch? Did you and Monroe sit right next
 to
 each other and play together? Where you nervous? Do you still play
 two
 of my favorite new tunes, My Father's Footsteps or I'd Like to
 Be
 Over Yonder, ? Was disc recorded Nashville Style or LA Style

F12

2010-03-12 Thread Robin Gravina
Hey all you taterbuggers
I have stumbled across a 1961 Gibson F12 going for around 1500 bucks. I
haven't had a look at it, but it's apparently mint. Is this potentially a
good deal, assuming that it sounds like a mandolin and not like a brick?
Best
Robin

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Re: F12

2010-03-12 Thread Robin Gravina
I guess I'll just have to play it then! Apparently it's been sitting,
brick-like, in its case for many years. Oh yes, and there is the small
detail that I don't have the money!



On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 4:20 PM, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.comwrote:

 Robin,
 Definitely a good deal price wise. But be prepared for it to sound
 like a brick. G
 Mister Encouragement

 On Mar 12, 3:49 am, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hey all you taterbuggers
  I have stumbled across a 1961 Gibson F12 going for around 1500 bucks. I
  haven't had a look at it, but it's apparently mint. Is this potentially a
  good deal, assuming that it sounds like a mandolin and not like a brick?
  Best
  Robin

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Re: F12

2010-03-12 Thread Robin Gravina
But then again, it never stopped me before


On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 4:56 PM, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.comwrote:

 Ah, a minor detail certainly.
 TBug

 On Mar 12, 9:36 am, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com wrote:
  I guess I'll just have to play it then! Apparently it's been sitting,
  brick-like, in its case for many years. Oh yes, and there is the small
  detail that I don't have the money!
 
  On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 4:20 PM, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
   Robin,
   Definitely a good deal price wise. But be prepared for it to sound
   like a brick. G
   Mister Encouragement
 
   On Mar 12, 3:49 am, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com wrote:
Hey all you taterbuggers
I have stumbled across a 1961 Gibson F12 going for around 1500 bucks.
 I
haven't had a look at it, but it's apparently mint. Is this
 potentially a
good deal, assuming that it sounds like a mandolin and not like a
 brick?
Best
Robin
 
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Re: grounded, centered, focused

2010-03-11 Thread Robin Gravina
Well I bought it as promised, an easy way to get the music quick. I'll
listen tomorrow with luck. Difficult to spend 7 euros more wisely

2010/3/11, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com:
 Wait a minute, was Campbell on the recording? Shizzle, I forgot.
 Anyway, Bill was playing *a* fiddle...No, not Baker, sounded more like
 Brother Birch.
 Tbug

 On Mar 11, 1:18 pm, Mike Terry mterry2...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey Mike, what did Bill sound like on the fiddle? Was he playin the
 Kenny Baker type stuff or just playin the melody? Wow, i bet that was
 quite a moment.

 On Mar 11, 9:08 am, erik berry eberr...@gmail.com wrote:

  Awesome. Thank you Mike.

  erik

  On Mar 11, 8:17 am, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:

   Erik,
   I think the whole thing started out as a Robins' recording, but when
   he got here he communicated with Monroe and Bill basically decided to
   come to the session, so the direction of the whole thing changed. I
   was there originally to keep Bill 'on track' because he was beginning
   to forget some of the songs we did. Funny, because I didn't really
   know a few of them that well at the time.

   We all sat LA style as you put it. Most of it was done in the middle
   of one room without the benefit of baffles. No rhythm tracks and
   layering, just all of us batting it out. On the duet stuff, I sat
   right across from Bill, say within 8-10 feet. Sure, I was nervous. But
   I learned more those couple days about Bill's right hand than I had in
   decades previous. It became obvious quickly that I had to match his
   tremolo to make the duet blend, not only the speed of it, but the
   feel, the 'lope'. Bill wouldn't even play Tanyards, couldn't
   remember it. He told Butch to let me play it. I told him I didn't
   think I could do a better job of it than he could. He said, I know
   so, so I shut up. Nothing like being put on the spot by the Bossman.
   Buddy Spicher was on that cut too, I believe.

   Bill came to the session dressed in a suit and one of his Stetsons.
   All the rest of us came ragged out in tee shirts and jeans. The old
   school guys came to the studio dressed up and ready for 'work'. A few
   of the girlfriends came along. Of course Bill flirted with them. I
   remember one of the days everybody piled out for lunch and left. I
   didn't go for some reason. After hanging out in the break area for a
   while I went back into the studio and slipped up on
   Monroe playing Campbell's fiddle, playing Muleskinner Blues real
   quiet. I listened a little bit and then said, I didn't know you
   played the fiddle, Bill. He did one of those moves a possum will do
   when he's wanting to be invisible..you don't see me, you don't
   see me...; he put the fiddle down really slow and turned clean around
   in the chair and just sat there like he'd been that way all along.

   All in all it was sort of a whacky project. Randy Howard played some
   pretty spectacular 'contest' style solos, Dewey Farmer did his
   psychedelic hotrod style mandolin, Buddy Spicher brought integrity to
   the tunes, Butch ran around keeping it moving along despite all the
   rest of us giving him a fun-loving hard time.

   I reckon it was the first time I'd worked with Butch and certainly
   with Bill. Seems like we did another batch of tunes someplace else,
   the one that included ...Over Yonder. I don't know where any of that
   stuff went.
   Tbug

   On Mar 10, 10:24 am, erik berry eberr...@gmail.com wrote:

I just bought my first-ever download MP3 record (welcome to 2010
Erik!) and it was Butch Robins' record. It's really cool. I'm pretty
sure I can tell which tracks have just Mike on them, but boy, the
Monroe-Compton duets are really slick. Hard to tell where one starts
and the other stops. I like Butch's banjo playing and singing a
whole
lot too, which is great, since I basically got the record for the
mandolinin' on it. A number of cuts I can't wait to share with my
banjo player (Doin' My Time and Short'nin' Bread, to name two).

Mr. C--great work on that disc. If you have a notion and a few
minutes
to talk about it, I'd appreciate hearing some stories. If you need a
question or two I'll pitch some at you. Was this the first time you
worked with Bill and/or Butch? Did you and Monroe sit right next to
each other and play together? Where you nervous? Do you still play
two
of my favorite new tunes, My Father's Footsteps or I'd Like to Be
Over Yonder, ? Was disc recorded Nashville Style or LA Style?

Cool stuff. I got it off CDBaby for 10 bucks, if anyone else is
curious about it. Simple website to use and 10 minutes after I
decided
to get the thing, it was on my MP3 player. Cool, cool, cool.

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Re: grounded, centered, focused

2010-03-10 Thread Robin Gravina
That's great. I'll get it tomorrow. I wonder if they have the other
monroe-compton one that was mentioned and seems to be available on
plastic from japan.

2010/3/10, erik berry eberr...@gmail.com:
 I just bought my first-ever download MP3 record (welcome to 2010
 Erik!) and it was Butch Robins' record. It's really cool. I'm pretty
 sure I can tell which tracks have just Mike on them, but boy, the
 Monroe-Compton duets are really slick. Hard to tell where one starts
 and the other stops. I like Butch's banjo playing and singing a whole
 lot too, which is great, since I basically got the record for the
 mandolinin' on it. A number of cuts I can't wait to share with my
 banjo player (Doin' My Time and Short'nin' Bread, to name two).

 Mr. C--great work on that disc. If you have a notion and a few minutes
 to talk about it, I'd appreciate hearing some stories. If you need a
 question or two I'll pitch some at you. Was this the first time you
 worked with Bill and/or Butch? Did you and Monroe sit right next to
 each other and play together? Where you nervous? Do you still play two
 of my favorite new tunes, My Father's Footsteps or I'd Like to Be
 Over Yonder, ? Was disc recorded Nashville Style or LA Style?

 Cool stuff. I got it off CDBaby for 10 bucks, if anyone else is
 curious about it. Simple website to use and 10 minutes after I decided
 to get the thing, it was on my MP3 player. Cool, cool, cool.

 erik

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Re: Crickets.......

2010-03-09 Thread Robin Gravina
Ok.
Got practice tonight with my little group Los Cold Hearts - we are writing
away and getting some songs ready with a view to recording, but how do you
all record?

When I did it before, with a rock band, it was a nightmarish process of
doing it semi-live, then redoing everything until all track by track untill
all my ability to tell whether it was good or not had vanished. Now I wonder
if trying to do everything live would be equally nightmarish: doing take
after take until you get energy and a version where nobody screws up...

What do you all think? Oh, and do you do acoustic music in Dobly?



On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Steve Cantrell sec...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 I also noticed the tumbleweed, but I assumed it was just for ambiance.

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 *Subject:* Crickets...

 It is very quiet on the discussion front. Nothing left to discuss,
 apparently. Hello? Is anybody out there? Check, one...two...is this
 thing on?test...test...calling Rangoon...

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Re: Monroe Camp 2010

2010-03-05 Thread Robin Gravina
I am dreaming, as there is no way that I can be there, but would love to
have Mr. Statman show ways of taking Monroe tunes into inner/outer space.



On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Mark Seale mark.se...@gmail.com wrote:

 Something else that came to mind would be a class that takes a Monroe
 instrumental and traces its development through his changes in playing
 style.  Find a tune that he carried for multiple decades and do a study on
 how it changed.

 M



 On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 8:14 PM, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.comwrote:

 Izzat it? Nobody's even curious about anything? Boy, this is a quiet
 bunch...must be practicing...
 Tbug

 On Feb 28, 3:01 pm, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com wrote:
  If I was able to be there, I'd like 2 hours on kick offs like 'old
  xroad is waiting'. How to get intensity without over-playing, timing
  of the tremolo, pick angle details, starting cold with full energy
  on...
 
  2010/2/28, Mark Seale mark.se...@gmail.com:
 
 
 
   That's sort of where I was going with it Raymond.  To me, Tater
 rhythm, is
   the rhythm beyond a bluegrass chop.  It's sort of a melodic rhythm,
 based on
   various and creative chord voicings that ring and follow the lead.
  The
   stringband stuff from the Hartford days, or the rhythm on Tanyards
 (Stomp
   cd).  That's what I've got in my ear.
 
   M
 
   On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Raymond Huffmaster 
   raymondhuffmas...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Howdy..
   Glad to see y'all bringing rhythm into the thread...
   One thing more important to me than rhythm..that's
   making sure that said rhythm is in time.This allows
   the lead guy to really do what he can or cannot do...
 
   Now,as to your request for suggestions,Mikey...this
   same rhythm,especially to me,on the Mandolin...needs
   to be done in a way that produces tone from the Mandolin.
   A muted/damped,brushed rhythm on the Mandolin without
   tone lites nary fire under me...I want to hear the tone come
   out with the chop...after all...the Mandolin is just a tone
   chamber with a neck hooked to it...take advantage of that
   tone,use it to enhance the music.
   Love Monroes tone in his rhythm playing
 
   Loafer
 
   @msn.com wrote:
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 Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 07:54:29 -0800
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 To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
 
 What is tater rhythm anyway?
 TBug
 
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Re: WSM's cufflinks

2010-03-05 Thread Robin Gravina
Have to say that I wear them for work, as I like them. (never wear a
tie though). As we practice right after work, I have discovered that
flat ones good, ball shaped ones bad. Actually seems to help in
keeping the rh nice and floating, but then WSM could probably have
done it with handcuffs on.

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 I was watching the Bill Monroe video on the folkstreams site the other
 day and got to wondering. Did the fact that Monroe wore a suit coat,
 French cuffs and cuff links influence his style, particularly his
 posture/right hand? The one time I've ever worn all that stuff and
 played mandolin (my own wedding reception) I played two warm-up chucks
 and made my new bride take out my link and roll up my sleeve, cuz the
 link got caught up in my behind-the-bridge strings and I didn't feel
 like focusing on fixing it. On a few occaisions I've worn a suit coat
 and played and felt I had to hold my hand different. Normally I wear
 short sleeves.

 Any thoughts?

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White light, white heat

2010-03-02 Thread Robin Gravina
This was posted to the COmando list

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRL_vIdZY4Y

Definite touch of the Lou Reeds there from the Tater!

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Re: happy Birthday spud man

2010-03-01 Thread Robin Gravina
Happy Birthday!
I heard you were thinking of starting to take the mandolin seriously
this year ;-)


2010/3/1, Mando Chef saltydogli...@gmail.com:
 I'll bring the cake where we meeting?

 On Mar 1, 9:07 am, Mark Seale mark.se...@gmail.com wrote:
 I think both is appropriate just to cover all your bases.  Happy Birthday
 Tater!

 M



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  on non leap year years?

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   Happy Bithday Mike!
   Add an extra 10 minutes to the elipitcal to make up for the cake ;)

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Re: Monroe Camp 2010

2010-02-28 Thread Robin Gravina
If I was able to be there, I'd like 2 hours on kick offs like 'old
xroad is waiting'. How to get intensity without over-playing, timing
of the tremolo, pick angle details, starting cold with full energy
on...

2010/2/28, Mark Seale mark.se...@gmail.com:
 That's sort of where I was going with it Raymond.  To me, Tater rhythm, is
 the rhythm beyond a bluegrass chop.  It's sort of a melodic rhythm, based on
 various and creative chord voicings that ring and follow the lead.  The
 stringband stuff from the Hartford days, or the rhythm on Tanyards (Stomp
 cd).  That's what I've got in my ear.

 M


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 raymondhuffmas...@gmail.com wrote:

 Howdy..
 Glad to see y'all bringing rhythm into the thread...
 One thing more important to me than rhythm..that's
 making sure that said rhythm is in time.This allows
 the lead guy to really do what he can or cannot do...

 Now,as to your request for suggestions,Mikey...this
 same rhythm,especially to me,on the Mandolin...needs
 to be done in a way that produces tone from the Mandolin.
 A muted/damped,brushed rhythm on the Mandolin without
 tone lites nary fire under me...I want to hear the tone come
 out with the chop...after all...the Mandolin is just a tone
 chamber with a neck hooked to it...take advantage of that
 tone,use it to enhance the music.
 Love Monroes tone in his rhythm playing

 Loafer

 @msn.com wrote:
  spud, dud, dud, spud, pud, spud, dud you get my drift
 
  Dennis Fehling
  Friends for life dog training
  541-350-2869
 
  www.friendsforlifedogtraining.com
 
  When will the madness stop.  Spay and Neuter your pets
 
   EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD
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   Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 07:54:29 -0800
   Subject: Re: Monroe Camp 2010
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   To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
 
   What is tater rhythm anyway?
   TBug
 
   On Feb 27, 11:15 am, Don adobeinthepi...@gmail.com wrote:
I second the Tater rhythm course of study.
 
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Re: Starting from scratch....sort of.

2010-02-19 Thread Robin Gravina
So where can one find the cd pieces of time? I guess it's out of print and
a quick search did not illuminate me
Best
Robin


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 Hi Mike, me again.

 After hearing you play last Saturday night I went back and re-read your
 declaration below. Either you've improved immensely already or you are damn
 hard on yourself. So am I, but I tend to forgive myself too easily. (There I
 go again.)

 Anyway, re-reading your personal renewal statement and hearing and seeing
 you play has re-inspired me. I got the CD Pieces of Time and I've
 committed myself to learn the mando breaks in all the tunes note for note,
 or damn close to it. When I say learn them I mean play them just like they
 sound on the CD, or real close to it.  There's some good tunes on there in
 tempos I think I can handle.  I'm shooting for about a six month target, two
 weeks per tune. My 70th birthday is next October so this will be my present
 to myself.  I may need a little help from you from time to time and will
 holler when I do.  I see you did some playing on the CD too but I can't tell
 you from Monroe.

 No need to respond to this note. Just wanted to make my commitment known
 for a little added pressure.

 Pat


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 To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 5:25:48 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
 Subject: Starting from scratchsort of.

 Okay, I've decided to go back to the drawing board. It's been looming on
 the horizon for some time, bugging me, nagging at me in the back of my mind,
 one of those things that I know needs doing. So here goes... While it's true
 that I've taken some flack of late from uneducated n'er-do-wells with snappy
 comments regarding the slop I play and how I'm apparently luckier than
 Kenny G in my musical success based upon my apparent lack of ability to be
 an actual musician, this is not the basis for my conclusion that things need
 to change. There's a lot of things that need changing around here really,
 and the musical aspect is only one of the pieces of the puzzle. I'm getting
 fed up with feeling like the weak link in so many chains, not all of them
 musical. Call it a delayed New Year's Resolution list, if you will. As
 middle age comes and settles in more firmly I find myself wanting to play
 better, to understand more, to feel a connection with what I'm doing that's
 not been there in quite some time. Yes, I've been winging it. But then I
 suppose I've not fooled everybody judging by the latest flurry of comments
 and my own personal feelings of musical unrest. I need a feeling of
 belonging to what I'm doing, I need to feel I'm doing it well, that it's a
 part of me. So far, no cigar. I sat here today and played Black Joke
 w/Variations as I do every couple days(or so...there's part of the problem
 right there; lack of consistency and regularity) and made a greater effort
 to play the notes cleanly and with character. Egad. You'd think I never saw
 this exercise before. I used to play at it every day, every morning first
 thing, out on the porch with the mando and the 'dola to do my ritual, my
 mando-meditation. But now I'm playing it and paying attention to detail in a
 different way. I am reworking my right hand some due to feeling some wear
 and tear over the last 38 years and it's hard, REAL hard. I'm working on
 making it work smoothly and relaxed, but feeling strong and sure. I'm
 watching my pick angle. I'm watching how much motion I use to make the
 strokes, how I cross over strings to get to the next, listening to the sound
 of the notes, the evenness of the tremolo(or not, in this case), watching my
 pick angle, etc. Everything I can think of. And I know that the more I work,
 the more things will turn up that need attention. Truth is, I spend a lot of
 time working, but not efficiently. I waste 30 minutes here, an hour there
 not focused on anything. Now I don't mean to say that putting one's brain
 out of gear now and again is not a good idea, but being on auto-pilot all
 the time, not filtering what goes in and comes out, is not really a good
 idea. So, the tune books are out, the paper is out, the iTunes list is open,
 lyrics are at easy reach. I'm not sure I even know how to accomplish what I
 want to get done. If I sit and ponder it too hard the task will just seem
 like too much of a mountain to climb. Maybe in pieces small enough to chew
 is the way to go, but I feel like now I have to chew all the time to get
 ahead and see real success, real progress. Real progress will instill
 passion for success. I find I've got a lot more things I want to get done,
 and feeling I'm playing at the level I think I should be is high on the
 list. I have raised my standards for myself. I have quite a collection of
 material I want to learn and explore. The list grows and I just sit and
 watch it without 

keeping the kinks out

2010-02-17 Thread Robin Gravina
Just had a gruelling physical therapy treatment this morning, for a fall
while ice skating (!); she is a really excellent therapist, and while she
was at it, she discovered a sore and knotted place under my left shoulder
which she couldn't explain, until I mentioned playing the mandolin, which
made perfect sense to her.
I had no idea that my playing position was causing me pain, so I was
wondering if anyone had any routines, stretches, or things they do in order
to keep everything relaxed whilst playing and not get to the point where you
need someone to torture you on a massage table.
Best
Robin

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Re: keeping the kinks out

2010-02-17 Thread Robin Gravina
Thanks for those youtubes. I'll check them out.  It's odd as I have
recently been working on exactly that posture from advice from someone
who teaches kundalini yoga. I hold that posture generally, but somehow
it all goes off as soon as I have a mandolin in my hands. I think
there probably must be an ideal position for each person, whereby you
can keep the instrument away from your body, without it causing
tension in your arms. I actually think what I might do is play simple
things for a while with my eyes closed, good posture, deep breathing,
and see if my body will show me how to do it.  Ommm


2010/2/17, Don adobeinthepi...@gmail.com:
 Hey Robin,

 I went through the same thing with a PT. It was torture but I can play
 pain free now. Good correct posture was the key for me for remaining
 pain free after playing. Look at videos of Chris Thile sitting down
 playing all hunched over. That's what you don't want. You want to play
 with good posture, pushing the top of your head straight up to the
 sky, chin tucked in slightly, shoulders back not hunched, back
 straight. Keep that posture while doing things like working on the
 computer and sitting on the couch too. Easier said than done. Also
 look for Pete Martin's videos on youtube for the correct way to hold
 the mandolin. That's an excellent resource for playing in a way that
 won't cause you physical problems. Seems too simple, but it's
 important.

 Did your PT give you some exercises? Strengthening the muscles you
 need for good posture and the muscles you use playing mandolin will
 also help.

 Good luck with it.  Don


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 wrote:
 Just had a gruelling physical therapy treatment this morning, for a fall
 while ice skating (!); she is a really excellent therapist, and while she
 was at it, she discovered a sore and knotted place under my left shoulder
 which she couldn't explain, until I mentioned playing the mandolin, which
 made perfect sense to her.
 I had no idea that my playing position was causing me pain, so I was
 wondering if anyone had any routines, stretches, or things they do in
 order
 to keep everything relaxed whilst playing and not get to the point where
 you
 need someone to torture you on a massage table.
 Best
 Robin

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Re: Forever has come to an end

2010-01-31 Thread Robin Gravina
I love songs with reaaallly sad titles, and this is one of them. If the
content matches the title, then we are in business as far as I'm concerned



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 Man that's a great song and y'all certainly do it justice!!  I love
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Re: Starting from scratch....sort of.

2010-01-19 Thread Robin Gravina
I think the only way to make a step up is by hard conscious work. I
can only admire the attitude that says 'i'm not as good as I could be,
so let's get working'. Things can get too comfortable once you are
competent and there is always change going on: for better or worse,
but change all the same.


2010/1/20, Linda lj...@intas.net.au:
 I feel exactly like what tater expresses but I really deserve it, and
 am doing something about it.
 Maybe thats just the way of it, cycles of pursuit followed by
 lassitude, don't know.. but I hear it, it sounds honest, and I wish I
 could be starting from where you are instead of where I am.
 linda

 On Jan 20, 2:47 pm, Bill Burnette bburne...@gmail.com wrote:
 Far be it from me to argue with a per-fesh-un-al such as yerself, but I
 still think when it comes to music, when you think about it too much, you
 lose part of the soul. I suspicion that most of us hang around here more
 for
 the inspiration we derive from your music than from your good looks, charm
 and personality... ;)

 Bill in Nashville

 On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 7:41 PM, Mark Seale mark.se...@gmail.com wrote:
  Tater -

  I don't know what brought this on, and from the sounds of it, I don't
  want
  to.  Now, I'm not going to tell you not to practice and keep working,
  everybody has to do that.  But I will say that what you do inspires a
  bunch
  of us to play music musically.  Listening to you and really hearing what
  you
  do got me out of the shove as many notes in as possible and play as
  fast as
  possible mode.  Your rhythm and drive and right hand shed a whole new
  light
  on music for me.  And for that, I'm eternally grateful.  Sure, when
  compared
  to a classical, pristine piece what you do sounds raw, but that's what
  draws
  so many of us to it.

  Keep doing what you're doing and always strive to do it better tomorrow
  than you did today.

  Mark

  On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 7:25 PM, mistertaterbug
  taterbugmu...@gmail.comwrote:

  Okay, I've decided to go back to the drawing board. It's been looming
  on the horizon for some time, bugging me, nagging at me in the back of
  my mind, one of those things that I know needs doing. So here goes...

  While it's true that I've taken some flack of late from uneducated
  n'er-do-wells with snappy comments regarding the slop I play and how
  I'm apparently luckier than Kenny G in my musical success based upon
  my apparent lack of ability to be an actual musician, this is not the
  basis for my conclusion that things need to change. There's a lot of
  things that need changing around here really, and the musical aspect
  is only one of the pieces of the puzzle. I'm getting fed up with
  feeling like the weak link in so many chains, not all of them musical.
  Call it a delayed New Year's Resolution list, if you will.

  As middle age comes and settles in more firmly I find myself wanting
  to play better, to understand more, to feel a connection with what I'm
  doing that's not been there in quite some time. Yes, I've been winging
  it. But then I suppose I've not fooled everybody judging by the latest
  flurry of comments and my own personal feelings of musical unrest. I
  need a feeling of belonging to what I'm doing, I need to feel I'm
  doing it well, that it's a part of me.  So far, no cigar.

  I sat here today and played Black Joke w/Variations as I do every
  couple days(or so...there's part of the problem right there; lack of
  consistency and regularity) and made a greater effort to play the
  notes cleanly and with character. Egad. You'd think I never saw this
  exercise before. I used to play at it every day, every morning first
  thing, out on the porch with the mando and the 'dola to do my ritual,
  my mando-meditation. But now I'm playing it and paying attention to
  detail in a different way. I am reworking my right hand some due to
  feeling some wear and tear over the last 38 years and it's hard, REAL
  hard. I'm working on making it work smoothly and relaxed, but feeling
  strong and sure. I'm watching my pick angle. I'm watching how much
  motion I use to make the strokes, how I cross over strings to get to
  the next, listening to the sound of the notes, the evenness of the
  tremolo(or not, in this case), watching my pick angle, etc. Everything
  I can think of. And I know that the more I work, the more things will
  turn up that need attention.

  Truth is, I spend a lot of time working, but not efficiently. I waste
  30 minutes here, an hour there not focused on anything. Now I don't
  mean to say that putting one's brain out of gear now and again is not
  a good idea, but being on auto-pilot all the time, not filtering what
  goes in and comes out, is not really a good idea. So, the tune books
  are out, the paper is out, the iTunes list is open, lyrics are at easy
  reach. I'm not sure I even know how to accomplish what I want to get
  done. If I sit and ponder it too hard the task will just seem like too
  much of a 

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