On Wednesday, May 4, 2005, 23:30, Alto Speckhardt wrote:
With Auto Format On you can't make a paragraph (by pressing Return)
without inserting an empty line after it. If you try it the next line
is drawn back to append the previous one - as it should not be.
If you disable Auto Format then
On Thursday, May 5, 2005, 10:07, Marcus Ohlström wrote:
You got the new editor added... Jokes aside, I do think you should have
got a reply and I do acknowledge the Windows editor was not added as a direct
outcome of your
request, but at least this shows that development of TB! continues at
Hello Alto Speckhardt everyone else,
on 05-Mai-2005 at 21:52 you (Alto Speckhardt) wrote:
In continuous text, that might be. However, try this example:
...I know...
ASK We're not writing books, we're writing emails. :-) And turning
ASK auto-format on/off is only a simple keyboard shortcut
Hello MAU,
Currently there is only few real bugs which are show-stoppers - AV
on entering search (not for all), threading by references,...
M H! I must admit I'm glad to hear that :)
Are you glad to hear that they exist or that they are noticed? ;)
--
Hello 9Val,
A reminder of what 9Val on TBBETA typed on:
03 May 2005 at 23:49:47 GMT +0200
9 Incorrect comparision.
It's a perfect analogy. If I built a shoddy house people would lose
confidence in my ability to build houses and buy them from elsewhere. If
you release a shoddy software
Hello Alto,
A reminder of what Alto Speckhardt on TBBETA typed on:
03 May 2005 at 00:43:53 GMT +0200
AS Oh yes, I am flaming now! Call it boiling! :-((!!
Calm down Alto. I wasn't trying to start a war, I was just trying to
clarify a few things in my mind, trying to have a constructive
Hello 9Val,
Currently there is only few real bugs which are show-stoppers - AV
on entering search (not for all), threading by references,...
M H! I must admit I'm glad to hear that :)
Are you glad to hear that they exist or that they are noticed? ;)
No, I am glad to hear that
Hi MAU,
M No, I am glad to hear that (if I understood correctly) you consider them
M show-stoppers. Which should mean you intend to correct them before
M release :)
Actually only references remained for you, AV on starting finder was
fixed
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Hello 9Val,
M No, I am glad to hear that (if I understood correctly) you consider them
M show-stoppers. Which should mean you intend to correct them before
M release :)
Actually only references remained for you, AV on starting finder was
fixed
I can perfectly live and work with 3.0.2.10,
Hello George,
This is not a bug, this is a feature :)
I know, I have always maintained that. A feature that I don't like at
all, but a feature. But other people consider it a bug :)
--
Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)
Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service
On Wednesday, May 4, 2005 @ 1:46:17 AM [-0700], Tony Boom wrote:
I too have bought and paid for Poco, Xpress Plus, Eudora and dare I say
it, Incredimail.
Oh my, Incredimail...
The Bat even in this state beats all of them hands down
So true. I've become frustrated with IMAP on many
Hello Tony Boom everyone else,
on 03-Mai-2005 at 23:07 you (Tony Boom) wrote:
Yahoo
Whats yahoo got to do with it? We're on TBBETA, not TBOT. :-)
--
Best regards,
Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981)
There is no sweeter sound than the crumbling of your fellow man. --
Hello Alto Speckhardt everyone else,
on 04-Mai-2005 at 15:19 you (Alto Speckhardt) wrote:
It is a little less than amusing to fight daily with a malfunctioning
program for three years and then being assigned non-priority out of
hand
Three years? Well, if you're still using that bugpested
On Wednesday 04 May 2005 17:49, Matt Thoene wrote:
After about 10 minutes I realize that I cannot do
all of the great things I was able to do with TB
Me too, tried them all there is only one other I like and I'm using it for a
short while now, at least till I get TB transfered over.
--
On Wednesday 04 May 2005 17:50, Alexander S. Kunz wrote:
Whats yahoo got to do with it? We're on TBBETA, not TBOT. :-)
Got to blame someone 'aint I?
Besides, your the ONLY one that noticed:)
--
Tony.
SuSE 9.2.
Current beta is 3.5
Hello Alto,
I'll grant that for e.g. TheBat not being able to use standard LF/CR
handling in the editor. It hurts me every day, but if this is just
TheBat's way I can't say much against it.
What do you actually mean by not being able to use standard LF/CR
handling in the editor?
--
Best
Hello Alto Speckhardt everyone else,
on 04-Mai-2005 at 23:30 you (Alto Speckhardt) wrote:
With Auto Format On you can't make a paragraph (by pressing Return)
without inserting an empty line after it. If you try it the next line
is drawn back to append the previous one - as it should not be.
Hello Alto,
M What do you actually mean by not being able to use standard LF/CR
M handling in the editor?
With Auto Format On you can't make a paragraph (by pressing Return)
without inserting an empty line after it. If you try it the next line
is drawn back to append the previous one - as it
Hello 9Val,
A reminder of what 9Val on TBBETA typed on:
29 April 2005 at 22:48:33 GMT +0200
9 On the way, it was not enough stable to be included. Don't see any
9 sence to get a lot of AVs reports which are known for us
But you still release an RC version that is still crawling alive
Tuesday, May 3, 2005, 8:15:59 AM, you wrote:
Hello 9Val,
A reminder of what 9Val on TBBETA typed on:
29 April 2005 at 22:48:33 GMT +0200
9 On the way, it was not enough stable to be included. Don't see any
9 sence to get a lot of AVs reports which are known for us
But you still
Hi Tony,
TB If you know these will cause problems why not fix them *before* releasing
TB the actual program?
Because they are on *your* side in configuration files. There have
some changes in format.
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9Val
Tuesday, May 3, 2005, 11:42:54 AM, you wrote:
Hi Tony,
TB If you know these will cause problems why not fix them *before* releasing
TB the actual program?
Because they are on *your* side in configuration files. There have
some changes in format.
is the release version going to do
Hello Chris,
A reminder of what Chris Wilson on TBBETA typed on:
03 May 2005 at 12:52:26 GMT +0200
CW I hope the end user isn't expected to clean up FOR
CW TB!!
My point exactly. Every other piece of software I have, when I update it
it does so with very little fuss without the need to
Hallo Chris,
On Tue, 3 May 2005 11:58:27 +0100GMT (3-5-2005, 12:58 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:
CW is the release version going to do a proper clean up and *AUTOMATICALLY*
CW delete any config files iteither does not need, or are likely to cause
CW trouble, hopefully backing them up
Hi Tony,
TB My point exactly. Every other piece of software I have, when I update it
TB it does so with very little fuss without the need to delete numerous
TB obsolete file, with very minimal user input and upon reboot it runs
TB complete with previous settings.
It is not release
Hi Tony,
On 03/05/2005 12:50 PM +0100, you wrote:
My point exactly. Every other piece of software I have, when I
update it it does so with very little fuss without the need to
delete numerous obsolete file, with very minimal user input and upon
reboot it runs complete with previous settings.
Hello 9Val,
A reminder of what 9Val on TBBETA typed on:
03 May 2005 at 15:20:08 GMT +0200
9 It is not release version.
The name Release Candidate infers to me that it is very close to being
such.
9 You could blame us on this if it will happen in release.
So what your saying is all
Hi Tony,
9 You could blame us on this if it will happen in release.
TB So what your saying is all current known bugs will be totally fixed and
TB eradicated before it's released?
9 You could blame us on this if it will happen in release.
TB Now that you've committed that statement in
Hello 9Val,
A reminder of what 9Val on TBBETA typed on:
03 May 2005 at 16:14:44 GMT +0200
9 I was speaking about configuration files changes and manual working
9 with them. Nothing more...
Oh, sorry. I thought we was talking about all the existing bugs, nothing
for us to worry about
Hi Gleason,
GP So we can remove many of the problems we see by uninstalling TB,
GP deleting the left over directories, and reinstalling?
Never said anything like this. Look at thread start - we are
discussing not abstract things, but concrete one - mostly un-avoidable
deletion
Hello Cees,
A reminder of what Cees on TBBETA typed on:
03 May 2005 at 17:20:39 GMT +0200
C Would love to see some priority in fixing THAT.
How far can you swim under water? :)
--
Tony.
Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC1 Windows XP Home SP2
Pentium IV, 2.4Ghz Home Built Desktop.
Hello George,
A reminder of what George M. Menegakis on TBBETA typed on:
03 May 2005 at 15:38:06 GMT +0200
GMM Tony was harsh because he *cares* about the bat as all of us, loyal users
*do*
GMM care about the bat.
I don't think I was at all harsh. I just said what everyone else is
Cees,
On 03-05-2005 17:19, you [C] wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
C like IMAP totally NOT working.
OK, IMAP is definitely not that bad here.
C I see mail... switch account, go back to imapaccount and the mail is gone.
Not here.
C Filters still don't work.
Work here.
C Creating filters
Hello Cees,
A reminder of what Cees on TBBETA typed on:
03 May 2005 at 21:46:05 GMT +0200
C uh seven yards? :-P
Oh dear, never mind :)
Is it just me or is every signed message failing with this release? I
noticed mine were and now I see your's has...
Just looked back and all my
Hello Peter,
just now (on 05/03/2005 at 21:51) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
C like IMAP totally NOT working.
OK, IMAP is definitely not that bad here.
Really god here. Until Sunday I had synchronization turned on by fault.
Don't know, why I did this some time ago - but *all* folder were set to
Hi Tony,
just now (on 05/03/2005 at 22:09) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just looked back and all my posts prior to RC1 are fine, all my posts
using RC1 fail, can anyone confirm this phenomena or is paranoia setting
in?
For me all your messages are signed fine.
--
Bye,
Manuel,
Really god here. Until Sunday I had synchronization turned on by fault.
^
'good' of course. ;)
--
Adios,
Manuel, http://www.manuel-breitfeld.de
The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1, Windows XP Prof. 5.1 Build 2600 SP2
Current beta is 3.5
Hello Manuel Breitfeld everyone else,
on 03-Mai-2005 at 22:13 you (Manuel Breitfeld) wrote:
Just looked back and all my posts prior to RC1 are fine, all my posts
using RC1 fail, can anyone confirm this phenomena or is paranoia setting
in?
For me all your messages are signed fine.
As
Hallo Tony,
On Tue, 3 May 2005 21:09:52 +0100GMT (3-5-2005, 22:09 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:
TB Is it just me or is every signed message failing with this release? I
TB noticed mine were and now I see your's has...
TB Just looked back and all my posts prior to RC1 are fine, all my
Hello Tony,
TB And he has every right to defend his position but I do resent
TB him suggesting I was flaming.
I'm sorry, perhaps I choose wrong word. My point was that direction
your message goes, is quite clear and will give us another long
thread. Any position makes me failed
Hello Manuel,
A reminder of what Manuel Breitfeld on TBBETA typed on:
03 May 2005 at 22:14:06 GMT +0200
MB For me all your messages are signed fine.
Strange, they all report as being altered here.
--
Tony.
Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC1 Windows XP Home SP2
Pentium IV, 2.4Ghz Home Built
Hello Alexander,
A reminder of what Alexander S. Kunz on TBBETA typed on:
03 May 2005 at 22:24:27 GMT +0200
ASK As above.
OK, so what's been altered here that's causing them to fail this end, is
it Yahoo again? Can't remember changing anything here other than removing
the icon xml file
Hello Tony!
On Tuesday, May 03, 2005, 3:09 PM, you wrote:
it just me or is every signed message failing with this release? ...
Just looked back and all my posts prior to RC1 are fine, all my posts
using RC1 fail, can anyone confirm this phenomena or is paranoia setting
in?
Your
Hello Tony,
just now (on 05/03/2005 at 23:05) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
MB For me all your messages are signed fine.
Strange, they all report as being altered here.
I checked again. alt+click on your Name and all your messages appear.
Checked about 30 and did go back to January - all are fine.
Hello 9Val,
A reminder of what 9Val on TBBETA typed on:
03 May 2005 at 22:54:45 GMT +0200
I'm a bit too tied to answer in full tonight but I'll comment on this for
now. Bearing in mind this is a question not a sarky remark.
9 Fix all known bugs? Have you seen bugtrack?
If,
Hello Mary,
A reminder of what Mary Bull on TBBETA typed on:
03 May 2005 at 23:14:38 GMT +0200
MB Your signature verifies just fine, here.
Thank you Mary, that means the problem is my end.
Hello Manuel,
A reminder of what Manuel Breitfeld on TBBETA typed on:
03 May 2005 at
Hello Tony,
TB If I built a house (I'm a Bricklayer) that had a leaky roof, I'd fix that
TB roof before starting to build another house. Otherwise I might end up
TB with a whole street full of houses all with roofs that leak and I'd
TB probably end up with a bad reputation as a builder
Hello 9Val,
Currently there is only few real bugs which are show-stoppers - AV
on entering search (not for all), threading by references,...
H! I must admit I'm glad to hear that :)
--
Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)
Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows 2000
Hello Alto,
But you apparently chose to blatantly ignore the fact that you're
selling a non-functioning product and you don't give a hoot about it!
Calm down bit. How many e-mail clients are there available in the
market? Why choose The Bat!? No software of this kind will ever satisfy
every
Hello 9Val,
A reminder of what 9Val on TBBETA typed on:
29 April 2005 at 20:17:10 GMT +0200
9 Forgot to say. If you'll find something wrong with icon sizes - remove
9 batskin.xml and restart
9 And secodn - there could be problem with toolbars menu. It has 2
9 solutions:
If you know
Hello Peter,
A reminder of what Peter Ouwehand on TBBETA typed on:
29 April 2005 at 21:25:13 GMT +0200
PO I'd like to have such smaller icons. How did you do that ??? ;)
I'd like to be able to switch between the two without having to delete or
restore files.
--
Tony.
Using The Bat!
Hi all and especially 9Val,
9 The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available from:
9 http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/
I've been browsing on the list for quite a while now but so far
refrained from trying a beta myself because after each release there
seemed to be quite some unresolved bugs. Since the
Hi Alto,
On 30/4/2005 4:19 PM +0200, you wrote:
Gentlemen, no offense, but - it took you twenty betas to come up with
_this_??
... worst of all, the IMAP has not improved one single scratch!
v3.0.9.18 was the best I tried in this series. Not bad at all but it
had problems as I already posted.
Hello Alto Speckhardt everyone else,
on 30-Apr-2005 at 16:19 you (Alto Speckhardt) wrote:
Highly disappointed that in all the time since 3.0.1.33, RIT did - to
effect - not a darn thing
...regarding IMAP.
--
Best regards,
Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981)
Men
Hello 9Val,
Friday, April 29, 2005, 7:10:47 PM, you wrote:
Hello All,
The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available from:
http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/
Here is a short list of changes:
...
OK so I have nee out of the loop for some time, but what happened to
some of the menu keyboard.
Hi Allie Martin
-
On Sat, 30 Apr 2005, at 10:47:44 [GMT -0500] (which was 8:47 AM where
I live) you wrote:
snip
v3.0.9.18 was the best I tried in this series. Not bad at all but it
had problems as I already posted.
A couple have been addressed and
Hi 9Val,
Forgot to say. If you'll find something wrong with icon sizes - remove
batskin.xml and restart
And secodn - there could be problem with toolbars menu. It has 2
solutions:
1. complete delete of tbuser.def
2. Robo recipe:
you should see there something like
item
Hello 9Val,
[-] Other : mixing glyphs and new png
:-(((
That's certainly a pity (and a PITA) for my old tired eyes that have
problems differentiating the slightly different shades of blue of older,
etc.
--
Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)
Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC1
Hello MAU,
problems differentiating the slightly different shades of blue of older,
^folders
--
Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)
Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC1 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4
Hello 9Val,
[-] Minor : follow-up, selection and 'Open link'
Confirm as fixed.
--
Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)
Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC1 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4
Current beta is 3.5 Return
Hello 9Val,
[-] mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
In context menu of Folder View: Reply to All quoting selected text
is missing.
Also missing in context menu of the Main window and Message Finder
window.
Unless I have missed something on this issue, I can't find Reply to All
quoting selected
Hello 9Val,
[-] Other : mixing glyphs and new png
not fixed. I must still use 'batskin.INI' and 'batskin.XML' to manage
the Icons from outside glyph.
The favorite entries are not correctly represented - furthermore not
usable. :(
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
best
Hello Miroslav,
[-] Other : mixing glyphs and new png
not fixed. I must still use 'batskin.INI' and 'batskin.XML' to manage
the Icons from outside glyph.
sorry, my mistake - confirmed as fixed.
--
best regards
Miroslav
BAT-MAIL.DE.VU - http://bat-mail.de.vu
News-Ticker:
On Friday, April 29, 2005 @ 11:16:47 AM [-0700], 9Val wrote:
Forgot to say. If you'll find something wrong with icon sizes - remove
batskin.xml and restart
Hmm...I AM having a problem with icon sizes but I do NOT have
batskin.xml in my TB root directory. What else could be the problem?
--
Hello Miroslav,
[-] Other : mixing glyphs and new png
not fixed. I must still use 'batskin.INI' and 'batskin.XML' to manage
the Icons from outside glyph.
sorry, my mistake - confirmed as fixed.
Do you mean you can use external glyphs?
--
Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial -
Hello Simon,
Attached screen image shows the menu available at this end, can you see this?
Sorry, I was looking for this option on message list context under
Specials.
--
Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)
Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC1 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4
Hello George,
It is on the context menu of the message view pane on the menu Message
Sorry, I never looked there.
--
Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)
Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC1 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4
Hello Gleason,
That's certainly a pity (and a PITA) for my old tired eyes that have
problems differentiating the slightly different shades of blue of older,
etc.
This could be the solution for the half icons that were visible throughout the
program. The half icons are now full.
I never
9Val,
Confirm that icon sizes are not cut in half throughout the program.
Confirm that check box functions are no longer reversed.
Loading the Imap folder hierarchy at program startup remains a problem.
The first time, I get two inboxes with folder lists. Second time I get three,
Third time
Hello Matt,
MT Hmm...I AM having a problem with icon sizes but I do NOT have
MT batskin.xml in my TB root directory. What else could be the problem?
Check both mail directory and exe directory for it
--
9Val
Hello Gleason,
GP Confirm that icon sizes are not cut in half throughout the
GP program. Confirm that check box functions are no longer reversed.
Sorry, don't get both points
GP Loading the Imap folder hierarchy at program startup remains a
GP problem. The first time, I get
Hello MAU,
Do you mean you can use external glyphs?
Yes, you need only the XML-File. I adapted the XML-File to the new
conditions and it works as I expected it.
--
best regards
Miroslav
BAT-MAIL.DE.VU - http://bat-mail.de.vu
News-Ticker: http://thebat.orgavision.de/bat-mail.xml
Klipfolio
Hello Miroslav,
Do you mean you can use external glyphs?
Yes, you need only the XML-File. I adapted the XML-File to the new
conditions and it works as I expected it.
Would you mind sending me by PM your XML file so I can take a look at
what you've done?
--
Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech
On Friday, April 29, 2005, 20:16:47, 9Val wrote:
Forgot to say. If you'll find something wrong with icon sizes - remove
batskin.xml and restart
Is it possible to do anything to get the icons to display with proper colors
when using Office2003 theme?
--
Jernej Simoncic
Hello 9Val!
On Friday, April 29, 2005, 1:16 PM, you wrote:
Forgot to say. If you'll find something wrong with icon sizes - remove
batskin.xml and restart
They were indeed too tiny to see. And this did fix that.
--
Best regards,
Mary
The Bat 3.5 Return RC1 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack
Hello MAU everyone else,
on 29-Apr-2005 at 21:52 you (MAU) wrote:
Hmmm! Here we go
again with one of those issues/problems that happen to some but not to
others.
Sounds like it depends on whether (and when) you tried to use use external
glyphs with either the .ini or the .xml file
Hello 9Val
On Friday, April 29, 2005, 2:10:47 PM +0400 GMT
You wrote:
9 Hello All,
9 The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available from:
9 http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/
9 Here is a short list of changes:
9 [-] Other : AV on saving view mode to newly created
9 [-] Other : mixing glyphs and new
Hello George,
GMM ,- [ ]
GMM | 29.04TB! 3.5 (Return) Release Candidate 1
GMM | It will differ from .20 only with bug fixes and ability to
GMM | create/maintain containers in customizer and re-design of
GMM | customizer.
GMM `-
GMM What about it?
On Friday, April 29, 2005 @ 12:25:31 PM [-0700], Peter Ouwehand wrote:
MT Hmm...I AM having a problem with icon sizes but I do NOT have
MT batskin.xml in my TB root directory. What else could be the problem?
I'd like to have such smaller icons. How did you do that ??? ;)
I have no idea! It
On Friday, April 29, 2005 @ 12:53:12 PM [-0700], 9Val wrote:
MT Hmm...I AM having a problem with icon sizes but I do NOT have
MT batskin.xml in my TB root directory. What else could be the problem?
Check both mail directory and exe directory for it
No batskin.xml in the mail directory. I do
Hi 9Val,
Friday, April 29, 2005
you let us know -at least in parts- :
The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available
I am happy to say that the split message by xxx is no longer giving me a
headache: I finally can type in any number that is needed.
Thank you! Why didn't you mention it? Cheers!
On Friday, April 29, 2005 @ 2:03:28 PM [-0700], Matt Thoene wrote:
MT Hmm...I AM having a problem with icon sizes but I do NOT have
MT batskin.xml in my TB root directory. What else could be the problem?
Check both mail directory and exe directory for it
No batskin.xml in the mail directory.
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