Freezing TB
Hello TBBETA Members! A while ago, when listing more than a few bugs/problems TB brings with it, freezing TB was one of them. That was already quite annoying. Over the past couple of days I found out that this freeze has effects on other programs, namely media players. When TB is open and I try to watch a video or listen to music with VLC, Groove, 5KPlayer etc. the media freeze, skip, and pixelate. First I thought it was something in my network - it isn't, internally I have a fully functional Gigabit Ethernet, outside connection is 500 Mbit down, 50 Mbit up, even with a VPN I don't get under 300/30. It isn't my soundcard, not my processor nor RAM [see https://www.screencast.com/t/elvx9PtMeJ6 ]. For testing I let first Groove* run with a long playlist. It skipped while TB was running; System Monitor showed that every time Groove skipped the main TB process got red and was 'unresponsive'. Same when I checked with VLC. Closing TB**, then running Groove for an hour without any skipping, then the same with VLC. This makes TB unusable to me. *as part of the OS it should have the least interaction problems **curiously a TB process ran on after closing the program; I mentioned that previously -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] www.DH2Publishing.info Twitter: Evo2Me 8.5.8 on Windows 10 0 17134 Buss's Third Law of Human Mating: For every mating adaptation in one sex, there exists at least one co-evolved adaptation in the other sex designed to manipulate and exploit it. Buss's Fourth Law of Human Mating: For every co-evolved exploitative mating adaptation, there exists at least one co-co-evolved defensive adaptation designed to circumvent being manipulated and exploited. Buss's Seventh Law of Human Mating: Never reveal your first two laws of mating, lest they be used to manipulate and exploit you. [David Buss] Current beta is 8.5.8.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 8.5.2 MSI files
Hello Maxim! On Friday, June 29, 2018 at 1:27:44 PM you wrote: > Do you have any experience on that matter? Just that certificate mismatches will lead to error messages. I remember having them once or twice but cannot recall which program[s]. If there is no certificate you can just install by clicking 'More info', then 'Run anyway'. Mismatches may be - sensibly - more serious and prevent installation. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] www.DH2Publishing.info Twitter: Evo2Me 8.5.0.3 (BETA) on Windows 10 0 17134 Deutschlands Exportgut Nummer 1 seitdem das Frankenreich zerbrach: Idiotie als Regierungskonzept. [Aleks Papst] Current beta is 8.5.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 8.5.2 MSI files
Hello Ethan! On Friday, June 29, 2018 at 12:53:34 PM you wrote: > Question - is there a reason why Windows 10 Professional is flagging the MSI > as > an untrusted install program. Most likely a missing or mismatching developer certificate. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] www.DH2Publishing.info Twitter: Evo2Me 8.5.0.3 (BETA) on Windows 10 0 17134 Der Witz ist ja, dass die Einführung einer patriarchalen Moralfigur, deren Sein und Wesen wir nicht erfassen können, keinen Vorteil bzgl. moralischer Entscheidungen bringt. [Dierk Haasis] Current beta is 8.5.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Several Problems - a Reminder
Hello Stuart! On Monday, June 18, 2018 at 1:33:36 PM you wrote: >> Internal. The message renders right when opened in Opera and Edge [I >> checked that when I first reported that bug]. > If you go to Options/Preferences/Viewer Editor/HTML Viewer, you can select > external viewer or as I do, use the internal viewer but select the "Show HTML > Viewer Switch". By doing this you can easily switch between viewers as needed. A workaround, yes. My goal with this thread, as it has unfortunately become b/c I forgot several issues, is to have a collection of serious, work-hampering bugs in one place. And to remind us and RITLabs that there are serious issues possibly driving users away to other progs. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] www.DH2Publishing.info Twitter: Evo2Me 8.3.0.30 (BETA) on Windows 10 0 17134 Never trust a hug, it's just a way to hide your face. [The Doctor, from Steven Moffat] Current beta is 8.3.0.30 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Several Problems - a Reminder
Hello Stuart! On Sunday, June 17, 2018 at 9:29:09 PM you wrote: > Is this using the Bat's internal viewer or the external viewer? Internal. The message renders right when opened in Opera and Edge [I checked that when I first reported that bug]. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] www.DH2Publishing.info Twitter: Evo2Me 8.3.0.30 (BETA) on Windows 10 0 17134 I'd love to see the case made for that opinion. Curiously it isn't. Hence, it is a proclamation. Without any merit. [Derek Leveret] Current beta is 8.3.0.30 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Several Problems - a Reminder
Hello Dierk! On Sunday, June 17, 2018 at 12:16:03 PM you wrote: > I have several problems with TB, making working with it so difficult > I now use Outlook on the side. TB is still my main e-mail client, > for the time being. Another one I had forgotten: - Some HTML messages, particularly those relying on images, show up bungled. Example: https://www.screencast.com/t/yfQTz03rimnP -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] www.DH2Publishing.info Twitter: Evo2Me 8.3.0.30 (BETA) on Windows 10 0 17134 The moment it is called a 'system', it doesn't work. [Derek Leveret] Current beta is 8.3.0.30 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Several Problems - a Reminder
Hello! On Sunday, June 17, 2018 at 12:16:03 PM you wrote: > I have several problems with TB, making working with it so difficult > I now use Outlook on the side. TB is still my main e-mail client, > for the time being. And two further probs hitting me again: - When connecting to GMail TB! is very often, possibly always, asking if I allow its access to GMail [technically GMail is asking but it's a TB! dialogue]. That is despite an app password for 2FA. - TB! Backup throws the error message "Stream read error ’ D:\Bat\GMail\ACCOUNT.FLB' Data error (cyclic redundancy check)" -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] www.DH2Publishing.info Twitter: Evo2Me 8.3.0.30 (BETA) on Windows 10 0 17134 So wie natürliche Sprache für den Logiker das *erste* Wort ist [Austin], so sollte Gewalt für den Politiker das *letzte* sein. [Dierk Haasis] Current beta is 8.3.0.30 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Several Problems - a Reminder
Hello TBBETA Members and RITLabs! I have several problems with TB, making working with it so difficult I now use Outlook on the side. TB is still my main e-mail client, for the time being. - [automatic] filtering doesn't work at all. As some might remember, I set up Tb completely anew last summer on a new machine. All filters, templates, quick templates etc. have been recreated. While templates and QT work, automation doesn't as no filter works. All incoming e-mail stays in the Inbox. All IMAP accounts. - The Antispam Sniper toolbar quadruples its icons, instead of one instance of 'Mark as spam' and one of 'Not spam' it shows four instance of each. - Some system folders are doubled up. In one account I do have 'Sent Mail ' as well as 'Gesendete Objekte' [= sent mail], the same with 'Trash' and 'Papierkorb' [= trash]. It ius even worth with GMail. [see https://www.screencast.com/t/Ovmh6FQTpGU] - For several betas now, I'd venture it started about 3 to four weeks ago, TB very often freezes for 15 seconds or more. It happens without any traceable reason - MailTicker halts, main window freezes, editor stops responding etc. - TB does not close completely, there is a process, which has to be shut via Task Manager. Very annoying with frequent updates as well as with closing down windows [yes, I switch my computer off regularly, as in 'every evening']. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] www.DH2Publishing.info Twitter: Evo2Me 8.3.0.30 (BETA) on Windows 10 0 17134 Werbetexter sind Leute, die das Niveau senken und es 'barrierefrei' nennen. [Peter Breuer] Current beta is 8.3.0.30 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB Does Not Shut Down Properly
Hello TBBETA Members! For the past few alphas, ca. the last one to two weeks, TB does not shut down properly. One process stays on, I have to open the Task-Manager to kill it. While this is just slightly annoying when updating the EXE, it appears due to this process W10 starts TB automatically the next time Windows starts. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] www.DH2Publishing.info Twitter: Evo2Me 8.3.0.19 (BETA) on Windows 10 0 17134 In zweifelhaften Fällen entscheide man sich für das Richtige. [Karl Kraus] Current beta is 8.3.0.19 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 8.3.0.18
Hello Maxim! On Friday, June 1, 2018 at 12:35:26 PM you wrote: >> filters seem to be working fine again. > Thank you, we will improve it. Filters haven't been working here for months. Probably after changing all accounts to IMAP. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] www.DH2Publishing.info Twitter: Evo2Me 8.3.0.18 (BETA) on Windows 10 0 17134 If you celebrate it, it's art, if you don't, it isn't. [John Cage] Current beta is 8.3.0.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SMTP: Connection Issues
Hello Gwen! On Saturday, May 26, 2018 at 3:47:29 PM you wrote: > What is the trouble? > Overloaded VPN provider/proxy? > Certificate issues? > Please tell more. Just a 'cannot connect'. I am investigating. It might have to do with whitelisting since VPN providers have to equip against spammers and such. Nevertheless, 1 & 1 as well as GMail aren't providers one wants to block. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] www.DH2Publishing.info Twitter: Evo2Me 8.3.0.15 (BETA) on Windows 10 0 17134 [T]hose wonderful Berlin cabarets which did so much to stop the rise of Hitler and prevent the outbreak of the Second World War. [Peter Cook] Current beta is 8.3.0.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
SMTP: Connection Issues
Hello TBBETA Members! Since this morning I have trouble sending mail when connected via my VPN to any server I have been using for a year. It worked well till yesterday. When I disconnect everything is fine and dandy. Changes since yesterday morning: TB! has been updated and Private Internet Access has been updated. My hosting service didn't change anything regarding SMTP; PIA's only technical change is “Updated nwjs to 0.30.5 (fixes a memory leak)”. Anybody a sensible idea? -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] www.DH2Publishing.info Twitter: Evo2Me 8.3.0.13 (ALPHA) on Windows 10 0 17134 Worte eignen sich nicht als Versteck; Worte entlarven. [D.A. Wien] Current beta is 8.3.0.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: GnuPG EFAIL
Hello Eddie! On Wednesday, May 16, 2018 at 12:38:23 PM you wrote: > What I understand is that it is vulnerable when sending HTML mails. So > I presume ordinary "Text" mails are ok. Ordinary, plain text mail is alright. Do not send HTML, make plain text the default for viewing mails, check links before clicking, do not let TB download additional contents automatically. Be careful who sends you mail. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] www.DH2Publishing.info Twitter: Evo2Me 8.3.0.6 (ALPHA) on Windows 10 0 17134 Die Tatsache, dass eine [im konventionellen Sinn] technisch fehlerhafte Fotografie gefühlsmässig wirksamer sein kann, als ein technisch fehlerloses Bild, wird auf jene schockierend wirken, die naiv genug sind zu glauben, dass technische Perfektion den wahren Wert eines Fotos ausmacht. [Andreas Feininger] Current beta is 8.3.0.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: bat trying to do something with gmail
Hello Martin! in my case IMAP. On Thursday, April 5, 2018 at 11:36:28 AM you wrote: > Short question - perhaps I missed it: On which sort of account you see > this problem - IMAP or POP? -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] www.DH2Publishing.info Twitter: Evo2Me 8.3.0.2 on Windows 10 0 16299 The people are demanding honest government. The people want services. They want to be able to raise their children in an environment in which they can get a decent education and they can find healthcare. [George Walker Bush, Jr.] Current beta is 8.3.0.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: bat trying to do something with gmail
Hello Dwight! On Thursday, April 5, 2018 at 4:51:59 AM you wrote: > With this latest version, I am constantly interrupted by google, with > a panel showing that the bat is seeking permissions to do certain > things. When hit the allow choice, it just comes back, I am locked up. Happens here, too. Once a day or after a restart of TB I could understand but it happens quite frequently. Currently not sure if TB already uses an app-specific password; if so, there must be something wrong with the implementation. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] www.DH2Publishing.info Twitter: Evo2Me 8.3.0.2 on Windows 10 0 16299 Education has produced a vast population able to read but unable to distinguish what is worth reading. [G.M. Trevelyan] Current beta is 8.3.0.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 8.3.0.2
Hello Tbbeta! How about adding the buttons to the message window, which I use a lot more than the main one? On Sunday, March 25, 2018 at 4:48:50 PM you wrote: >> What about other ideas like making a hotkey to move/copy a message to the >> last folder without any confirmation? > From my end I would say better not, as my fingers are to quick and > presse buttons too fast sometimes. That said, for others it could be a > efficient way > of working. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] www.DH2Publishing.info Twitter: Evo2Me 8.3.0.2 on Windows 10 0 16299 Es gibt viel zu wenig Hitler-Vergleiche. [Aleks Papst] Current beta is 8.3.0.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
HTML: Cut off
Hello TBBETA Members! Some, not all, HTML messages are not rendered correctly by TB: https://www.screencast.com/t/zhRwmTSK The same message opened directly from TB via double-clicking the HTML attachment looks fine in Opera: https://www.screencast.com/t/8BTMRMcMUsj PS: As you can see in the screengrab I cannot get rid of the multiple instances of Anti Spam Sniper buttons. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] www.DH2Publishing.info Twitter: Evo2Me 8.3 on Windows 10 0 16299 Why is the man who invests all your hard earned money called a "broker"? Current beta is 8.2.8.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [Wish] Add "Paste from clipboard"-Button to Enter Registration Code window
Hello Thomas! On Monday, March 19, 2018 at 2:30:01 AM you wrote: > Will these people be able to mark the text to be copied and pasted? If > they don't know the basics of Windows, they won't use TB!. Not true, as proven by this thread. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] www.DH2Publishing.info Twitter: Evo2Me 8.2.8.5 (BETA) on Windows 10 0 16299 Any fool can make a rule - and every fool can mind it. [Henry David Thoreau] Current beta is 8.2.8.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [Wish] Add "Paste from clipboard"-Button to Enter Registration Code window
Hello Thomas! On Sunday, March 18, 2018 at 4:09:26 AM you wrote: > Help / Enter Registration Code shows a text field, into which you can > paste the registration key from the clipboard with ctrl-V. I have used > that in the past. As mentioned earlier, many people are unaware of +, +. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] www.DH2Publishing.info Twitter: Evo2Me 8.2.8.5 (BETA) on Windows 10 0 16299 Science may be described as the art of systematic oversimplification. [Karl Popper] Current beta is 8.2.8.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
v8.x: One Cosmetic, One Major Prob
Hello TBBETA Members! First the cosmetic error: https://www.screencast.com/t/hYHZlMfKN shows the G-Mail connection dialogue. It still has The Bat! v7 on top. The major gripe is the filter system - it simply does not work with IMAP accounts, making automation impossible. Curiously it appears to also affect spam sorting. For many, but not all, mails I can mark them as spam as often as I want to, the next one will not be recognised as spam. As mentioned months ago when I first noted this, all my filters have been done anew, the installation of TB was pristine on a new computer. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] www.DH2Publishing.info Twitter: Evo2Me 8.2.8.3 (BETA) on Windows 10 0 16299 Das Vergleichen mit anderen ist das Ende des Glücks und der Anfang der Unzufriedenheit. [Sören Kierkegaard] Current beta is 8.2.8.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 8.2.0.3
Hello Maxim! On Tuesday, January 16, 2018 at 10:35:08 PM you wrote: > The Bat! 8.2.0.3 (ALPHA) is available at > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb8203-32.rar > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb8203-64.rar > What's new in 8.2.0.3 since 8.2.0.2: > [-] (#0001401): OAuth is broken with GMAIL in 8.2.0.2 ALPHA Yip, works again. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] www.DH2Publishing.info Twitter: Evo2Me 8.2.0.3 (ALPHA) on Windows 10 0 16299 No one is injured save by himself. [Desiderius Erasmus] Current beta is 8.2.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 8.2.0.2
Hello Maxim! On Monday, January 15, 2018 at 7:50:04 PM you wrote: > The Bat! 8.2.0.2 (ALPHA) is available at It appears polling GMail is broken, I get the connection dialogue for GMail, click 'Allow' and the dialogue pops up again. I use 2FA on Google. Worked well with the previous Alpha this evening. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] www.DH2Publishing.info Twitter: Evo2Me 8.2.0.2 (ALPHA) on Windows 10 0 16299 Good's law: That what is not checked is wrong. [Irving John Good] Current beta is 8.2.0.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Error Message
Hello TBBETA Members! Booting up my computer this morning, starting TB!, getting the following error: Cannot destroy task of TlmapCopyAction_RemoteToLocal No idea which task triggered it. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] www.DH2Publishing.info Twitter: Evo2Me 8.0.14 on Windows 10 0 16299 Lots of people would be as cowardly as me if they were brave enough. [Terry Pratchett] Current beta is 8.0.10.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML Mails in 8.0.14
Hello MAU! On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 4:48:54 PM you wrote: > But the OP doesn't say if his problems shows with The Bat! viewer or > OS one. OP uses TB HTML viewer, if the HTML part of the message is opened in Opera Beta it shows correctly. Since IE isn't supported by Microsoft anymore I won't use it as a viewer even if it is only the rendering engine used. Actually I never used IE. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] www.DH2Publishing.info Twitter: Evo2Me 8.0.14 on Windows 10 0 16299 Every garbage-removal system - whether Zen, skepticism, or existentialism - generates garbage; the best you can hope for is to find a system that removes more garbage than it generates. [John Horgan] Current beta is 8.0.10.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
HTML Mails
Hello TBBETA Members! https://www.screencast.com/t/HKW0x9Kxmt The HTML message is shown only half, the right half is not shown in TB. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] www.DH2Publishing.info Twitter: Evo2Me 8.0.14 on Windows 10 0 16299 Jede Zahl kommt irgendwann auf Primzahlniveau an. [Aleks Papst] Current beta is 8.0.10.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 8.0.10.4 - IMAP Sorting
Hello Stuart! On Sunday, November 26, 2017 at 5:25:30 PM you wrote: > Sorting should happen automatically for IMAP as well. Having said that, I had > one > IMAP account that would not sort automatically, but that was sorted with a > release quite some time ago. I currently have 6 IMAP accounts and they all > sort well. Never got it to work properly. Most of the time my filters don't work [they did before with the on POP account I had], on occasion I get the odd mail sorted correctly. Very rare. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] www.DH2Publishing.info Twitter: Evo2Me 8.0.12 on Windows 10 0 16299 What sort of person sits down and *writes* a maniacal laugh? And all those exclamation marks, you notice? Five? A sure sign of someone who wears his underpants on his head. Multiple exclamation marks are a sure sign of a diseased mind. [Terry Pratchett] Current beta is 8.0.10.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The old Quick Launch problem...
Hello Maxim! On Monday, November 13, 2017 at 1:42:34 PM you wrote: >> I have The Bat! in my quicklaunch bar (Windows 10, so I basically > We don't know how to solve this problem so far. Not just on the Quick Launch Bar, it happens with the Taskbar [TB pinned to it], too. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] www.DH2Publishing.info Twitter: Evo2Me 8.0.2 on Windows 10 0 16299 Sex is hereditary. If your parents never had it, chances are you won't either. [Murphy's Law on Sex] Current beta is 7.4.16.60 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 8.0.4 MSI files
Hello Anton! On Monday, November 13, 2017 at 7:06:59 AM you wrote: >> Please test 8.0.4 MSI files: >> >> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/thebat_64_8-0-4.msi > thanks, Maxim. working fine here. Not here, gives an AV on trying to start it. Reverted to .2. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] www.DH2Publishing.info Twitter: Evo2Me 8.0.2 on Windows 10 0 16299 The only person in the world important enough to conform to is yourself. [Harpo Marx] Current beta is 7.4.16.60 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Edit Toolbar: Redundant Plug-in Icons
Hello Zygmunt! On Sunday, October 22, 2017 at 2:02:12 PM you wrote: > Please check the "Tools" main menu item - this function is the last > item on the list. Ah, toolbar customiser invoked from the main window instead of a message viewer one. No wonder I didn't see it. Well, do me a favour and look at the two screen grabs, showing my problem: https://www.screencast.com/t/WFX5FouOx [TB main window with a dedicated, automatically added Anti Spam Sniper toolbar] https://www.screencast.com/t/mIUgqNoRYb [TB message viewer window with multiple - working - instances of mark junk/not junk buttons on the standard toolbar] I have this error for years, with Windows 7, Windows 10, a completely new computer with W10 and a completely fresh install of TB. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] www.DH2Publishing.info Twitter: Evo2Me 7.4.16.60 (ALPHA) on Windows 10 0 16299 Life is the art of drawing sufficient conclusions from insufficient premises. [Samuel Butler] Current beta is 7.4.16.60 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Edit Toolbar: Redundant Plug-in Icons
Hello Zygmunt! On Saturday, October 14, 2017 at 11:04:03 PM you wrote: > Long time ago I had similar problem as you have and I used this method. Tried it out, does not work.* The problem isn't that I lack the required buttons to mark as spam or not but that I have them several times over in the Standard toolbar. *BTW, I wasn't able to find the 'Send and Check for All'; has it been abandoned? -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] www.DH2Publishing.info Twitter: Evo2Me 7.4.16.60 (ALPHA) on Windows 10 0 16299 Die schärfsten Kritiker der Tauben,/kacken heute noch auf Gauben. [Aleks Papst] Current beta is 7.4.16.60 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Edit Toolbar: Redundant Plug-in Icons
Hello TBBETA Members! I asked this months ago, here as well as the developer of Anti Spam Sniper but got no answer anywhere. Here we go again: Why do I have four sets of anti-spam marker icons [that's for 'spam', four 'no spam'] in the toolbar of the edit mail window? No, the plugin is installed only once. No, there are no further plug-ins installed. This is a fairly pristine installation on a new computer, still the issue already existent on a fairly long-running system before changing comps persist. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] www.DH2Publishing.info Twitter: Evo2Me 7.4.16.59 (ALPHA) on Windows 10 0 15063 Nobody resents being called a sucker more than a sucker. [Harpo Marx] Current beta is 7.4.16.59 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: division by zero / empty viewer errors
On 30 June 2017 03:05:17 CEST, Maxim Masiutin <m...@ritlabs.com> wrote: >Could you please send me a screenshot of the main windows of The Bat! >or an appropriate window where empty message body viewer occurs >(formerly the division by zero error)? Message viewers and composition window [just for clarification]; I'm unable to reply or forward as the composition window appears tone in tone, too. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] +49 179 6 63 65 90 Chat info upon request PGP key available Current beta is 7.4.16.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Zip
Hello Maxim! On Thursday, June 15, 2017 at 11:23:32 PM you wrote: > It's not .zip, it is .7z (7ZIP). Windows doesn't support it. You > will need to download a 7zip application to extract it. PeaZIP, for instance, should do the trick. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] www.DH2Publishing.info Twitter: Evo2Me 7.4.16.16 (ALPHA) on Windows 10 0 15063 Wenn ich mir eine Art Mensch ausdenke, die allen meinen Instinkten zuwiderläuft, so wird immer ein Deutscher daraus. [Friedrich Nietzsche] Current beta is 7.4.16.16 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Suggestion: The Bat! for Android
Hello TBBETA Members! Considering mobile computing shifts from full-blown, Windows-based laptops towards tablets and cell phones often using Android, wouldn't it be nice if we get The Bat! for Android instead of Voyager? -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.8.2 on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1 Chat info upon request There are four essential things in the world: Life, Truth, Freedom, Love. From them stems everything, and none of them is superior to the others. [Derek Leveret] Current beta is 5.4.8.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.4.1.0 crash
Hello Jernej! On Sunday, August 11, 2013 at 10:03:26 PM you wrote: Left Alt doesn't crash for me, but opens menu normally (pressing Alt+underlined letter also opens that menu). Right Alt (AltGr) causes instant crash. Yes, it's only the right - AltGr key -, which can easily be replaced [as a workaround] by clicking Ctrl+Alt left together. Unless you are in an Adobe program ... -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.4.1.0 (ALPHA) on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1 Chat info upon request A great truth is a statement whose opposite is also a great truth. [Niels Bohr] Current beta is 5.4.1.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.4.1.0 crash
Hello Jernej! On Saturday, August 10, 2013 at 10:02:39 PM you wrote: Crashes here, too (Windows 8, Slovenian keyboard layout). And here on W7-64, German keyboard. TB crashes and - that's a complete newie to me - get's restarted automatically. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.4.1.0 (ALPHA) on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1 Chat info upon request All for the Love of a Woman. [William Bell] Current beta is 5.4.1.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Addressbook counters
Hello Dwight! On Friday, March 8, 2013 at 6:33:27 PM you wrote: ... and I hope it stays this way. I won't entrust any personal data to the G company. Just saying. I don't think ability to sync will send your data to Google, any more than being able to sync with outlook will send you data to Microsoft. It would be a great boon for many of us if we could sync between the google contacts on our android phones and TB! And it need not be mandatory but an option, prompted for during first install - like so many other things already. I am all for an ABsync with Google Contacts. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.3.8.3 (BETA) on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1 Chat info upon request Ich bin der Clown, der stets verlacht! Und das mit Recht, denn alles, was besteht, ist wert, daß es zum Lachen regt. [Dierk Haasis] Current beta is 5.3.8.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Splash Screen
Hello TBBETA Members! I am a bit confused. A long time ago I set up a link to open TB with the command line parameters /minimise und /nologo, the latter of which I temporarily deleted if I wanted the splash screen [i.e. for Christmas]. did the same yesterday but still don't get the splash screen. Since I cannot find any option in the preferences I have no idea why I don't see the screen. Can anybody help? -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.3.4.1 (BETA) on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1 Chat info upon request Everybody loves a winner, but when you lose, you lose alone. [William Bell] Current beta is 5.3.4.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Splash Screen
Hello MAU! On Wednesday, December 12, 2012 at 12:07:40 PM you wrote: There may be some logic in not showing the splash screen when starting TB minimised. So, I'm afraid that if you want to see the logo you will also have to remove the /minimise parameter. Perhaps not so much logic but a bug nobody noticed, yet, for obvious reasons. Well, I did remove that, too, and for a split-second saw the splash screen pop up and go under. My computer is too fast for it to be actually seen. Sad. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.3.4.1 (BETA) on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1 Chat info upon request Where there's a will there's a won't. [Ambrose Bierce] Current beta is 5.3.4.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
[v5.x] Switching accounts for new messages
Hello TBBETA Members! I only noticed this last night with the new beta*, I am unable to switch from my default account - a POP3 with my hosting service - to my GMail account [IMAP]. *For testing purposes I reinstalled the current stable base version. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.2 on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1 Chat info upon request Ein politischer Kommentar? - Salzflecken bekommt man am besten mit Rotwein raus. [Aleks Papst] Current beta is 5.2.1.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [v5.x] Switching accounts for new messages
Hello Roelof! On Tuesday, September 18, 2012 at 12:24:10 PM you wrote: Could you elaborate? 1. Open a new message 2. Go to Options-Active Account-[choose account] While the message body changes according to templates the From field stays, and the message will still be sent/outboxed from the account expressly not chosen. My default account is a Pop3 account with the address you see for this message, it is shown in first place under Active account. Second place is taken by my Gmail account, which is IMAP, and has the address dhaa...@gmail.com. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.2 on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1 Chat info upon request I believe the more specific a film is about human experience, the more universal it is. [Roger Ebert] Current beta is 5.2.1.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB for Android?
Hello TBBETA Members! As I see Voyager still being alive and kicking, wouldn't an Android*-version - most probably with some kind of cloud-connection [to sync automatically with PC] - be a good idea? Probably better than a USB-stick variant? *Yeah right, iOS ... as if iOS-users would be able to work TB ... -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.1.6.4 on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1 Chat info upon request On two occasions I have been asked [by members of Parliament],'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. [Charles Babbage] Current beta is 5.1.6.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: (Again) Google Address Book
Hello Maurice! On Wednesday, April 18, 2012 at 1:43:28 PM you wrote: Because there is no decent import or synchronization that works for my needs from either Outlook or Google Contacts to The Bat! I currently register every change that I make in Outlook in a text file that I keep open in order to update the same list of contacts in The Bat!. I change my OL AB, then export the changed/added contacts to vCard and import them into TB's AB; the imported contacts are then quickly scanned for anything I have to correct [which rarely happens if at all]. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.1.0.3 (BETA) on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1 Chat info upon request Der Mensch an und für sich ist gut, aber die Leut’ sind ein Gesindel. [Johann Nepomuk Nestroy] Current beta is 5.1.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
New HTML Viewer Option: Image Download
Hello TBBETA Members! so, the current TB comes with IE selected by default. Nothing wrong with that for me. I went in and checked that TB's image handling configuration is used. Guess what, it doesn't work. With HTML messages I don't get the images, which is good as far as blocked or unknown sources are concerned. Unfortunately approved sources aren't shown either. And I do not get the Image Downloader button. I checked all this by changing back to the internal viewer, which downloaded permitted sources automatically or showed me the button with unknown sources. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.1.0.3 (BETA) on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1 Chat info upon request Artificial Intelligence is no match for Natural Stupidity. [Derek Leveret] Current beta is 5.1.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.1.0.3
Hello Maxim! On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 at 4:11:45 PM you wrote: What's new in 5.1.0.3 since 5.1.0.2: [-] System HTML viewer was disabled in previous beta (BETA issue) You definitely want to rename this since many do not use IE as system's default browser /HTML viewer. I, for instance, use Opera as default, Firefox and Chrome for testing and the occasional site not working with Opera; IE is never used, I only maintain it for programs relying on it, like Encyclopaedia Britannica. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.1.0.3 (BETA) on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1 Chat info upon request Das Familienleben ist ein Eingriff in das Privatleben [Karl Kraus] Current beta is 5.1.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: (Again) Google Address Book
Hello Thomas! On Wednesday, April 18, 2012 at 2:47:12 AM you wrote: Seams we are the only ones who complain about that. Very disappointing ;) Not really, though I wouldn't call a request for this feature 'complaining'. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.1.0.3 (BETA) on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1 Chat info upon request Niemand sollte aus seiner Mördergrube ein Herzen machen. [Aleks Papst] Current beta is 5.1.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.1.0.1
Hello Gunivortus! On Saturday, April 14, 2012 at 9:04:08 AM you wrote: You're relly saying me implicit, I should have known, that Valid until version 5.0.99 is just an advertisement slogan without real contents? Because there never was such a version. As expected RITlabs can't do it right, can it? When they went with a near-subscription model asking us for money once a year, people didn't like it. They switch back to pay per version AND are rather generous with what counts as one version AND don't just change version numbers every 9-12 months as certain other companies - and again it doesn't fit what users want. There is no logic to your assumption that an upper limit number should actually be reached just because it is given. With any other company you would have paid for v4.x.x, then again for v5.0.0. From a business plan perspective - and I am talking not RITLabs but about us users - we've gotten a lot out of a rather low investment. But then, these plans look upon return over time. Not return upon arbitrary version numbering. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.1.0.1 (BETA) on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1 Chat info upon request Tragedy: If I cut my finger. Comedy: If another one's head gets cut off. [Derek Leveret] Current beta is 5.1.0.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: winmail.dat
Hello Alto! On Monday, March 19, 2012 at 4:21:20 PM you wrote: today I received a message with an attachment winmail.dat. Isn't TheBat supposed to be able to decode this file by itself? I don't remember having seen one of those for ages. I doubt TB or any e-mail cient not based upon OL can decode it. Just ignore it, nothing of interest in it, just some logistical overhead of and for OL. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.0.36.3 (BETA) on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1 Chat info upon request Religionsfreiheit ist, wenn Katholiken für Burka kämpfen, Moslems für Purim und alle zusammen für Auditing. Sonst ist es Lobbyismus. [Dierk Haasis] Current beta is 5.0.36.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: winmail.dat
Hello Marek! On Monday, March 19, 2012 at 4:38:02 PM you wrote: yes, v5 decodes winmail.dat and it is done automatically, so if You see any body or attachment, they were decoded from TS-TNEF. In that case I sit enlightened. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.0.36.3 (BETA) on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1 Chat info upon request Man bewahrt seine Autorität so lange, wie man nicht gezwungen ist, sie auszuüben. [Hugo Pratt] Current beta is 5.0.36.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: FQ: Merge contacts
Hello Eddie! On Friday, March 16, 2012 at 10:35:52 AM you wrote: How was the conversion on your side? I'd like to tape your experience on this please. I never used OL as an e-mail client, it's a PIM remnant from my Windows Mobile days [and actually quite a good, if overpriced, calendar and address book app]. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.0.36.3 (BETA) on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1 Chat info upon request It is better to be wrong than to be vague. [Freeman Dyson] Current beta is 5.0.36.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
FQ: Merge contacts
Hello TBBETA Members! I am rather sure this feature is not implemented, yet. I'd really like to merge contacts, especially after having imported from Outlook; my AB is rather messy now. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.0.36.3 (BETA) on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1 Chat info upon request Jeder Mensch macht Fehler. Das Kunststück liegt darin, sie zu machen, wenn keiner zuschaut. [Sir Peter Ustinov] Current beta is 5.0.36.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 5.0.36 MSI - fixed menu item in the finder
Hello Maxim! On Friday, March 2, 2012 at 10:53:46 AM you wrote: Could you please test The Bat! 5.0.36 MSI files, with the fixed finder. If you did install the .36 MSIs before, uninstall them before installing these ones. Couldn't you just have made it 5.0.37? -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.0.36.1 on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1 Chat info upon request I never criticize my friends; if they are true friends they shall be what they be. [Derek Leveret] Current beta is 5.0.34.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Message Context Menu Glitch
Hello Tony! On Wednesday, February 29, 2012 at 8:02:52 PM you wrote: Furthermore, I don't see the 'Locate Original' entry that you have. Most probably because you didn't look into a message from a VF like I did [MT actually]. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.0.34.5 on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1 Chat info upon request The beauty of the Internet is that it connects people. The value is in the other people. If we start to believe that the Internet itself is an entity that has something to say, we're devaluing those people and making ourselves into idiots. [Jaron Lanvier] Current beta is 5.0.34.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Message Context Menu Glitch
Hello TBBETA Members! As you see from the pic there's still strange entries in context menus [depending on context obviously]: http://screencast.com/t/2dBUuT8gNq -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.0.34.5 on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1 Chat info upon request Wer auf der Stelle tritt, kann nur Sauerkraut fabrizieren. [Sir Peter Ustinov] Current beta is 5.0.34.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Colour Group Context Menu Under W7-64
Hello TBBETA Members! Since using W7-64 I have major trouble reading my Colour Groups context menu: http://screencast.com/t/vJea2lANsyT I defined this: http://screencast.com/t/dGNPB85ZAXU Quite a difference ... -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.0.34.2 on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1 Chat info upon request There is something fascinating about science: One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact. [Mark Twain] Current beta is 5.0.34.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Download Attachements Loop
Hello Michał! On Saturday, February 4, 2012 at 6:15:20 PM you wrote: I have this problem generally from the beginning of v.5 but only when boxes when browsing messages, retrieve only message text and except smaller than. are checked. When I unchecked it, attachments are downloading ok. that might just be it. I did the - hopefully - appropriate changes. Let's see what happens. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.0.34 on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1 Chat info upon request Slang is language that rolls up its sleeves, spits on its hands, and goes to work. [Carl Sandburg] Current beta is 5.0.30.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Download Attachements Loop
Hello TBBETA Members! http://screencast.com/t/BZhO5k0FL I selected the PPS to save it, got the message, which I ok'ed, got the message again ... well, it poppoed up again and again, no attachment saved. This happens on GMail, which I use with IMAP. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.0.34 on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1 Chat info upon request If all men acted from enlightened self interest, the world would be a paradise in comparison to what it is. [Bertrand Russell] Current beta is 5.0.30.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Context Menu Errors
Hello TBBETA Members! http://screencast.com/t/LuKov77tA As you see, this context menu has a completely wrong entry [try to find it]; I've seen this in several context menus. There's also 'Mark Unread' missing. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.0.34 on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1 Chat info upon request Religion ist die Hoffnung, daß der Zweite Hauptsatz der Thermodynamik nicht das letzte Wort über die Wirklichkeit ist. [Robert Spaemann] Current beta is 5.0.30.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Download Attachements Loop
Hello Roelof! On Thursday, February 2, 2012 at 11:54:24 PM you wrote: Tried to reproduce it, couldn't. Neither with a pps from gmail-imap, nor with an xlsx from another imap. Both saved just fine. Perhaps a matter of size, the attachment in question - and it doesn't really matter if it is Powerpoint, I've had the same with PDF [I think I reported that a few months ago] - was about 8.5 MB. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.0.34 on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1 Chat info upon request In zweifelhaften Fällen entscheide man sich für das Richtige. [Karl Kraus] Current beta is 5.0.30.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Context Menu Errors
Hello Roelof! On Friday, February 3, 2012 at 12:04:03 AM you wrote: However, I haven't got the 'locate original' entry, is your context menu for a virtual folder or something? It was for a message opened in the Message Ticke Folder, so, yes, it is in a VF. The 'locate original' was not there when I right-clicked on a message in a real folder. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.0.34 on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1 Chat info upon request Ist es nicht seltsam, dass Sprachlosigkeit sich immer in TV-Interviews niederschlägt? [Aleks Papst] Current beta is 5.0.30.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Attachments Links Lost When Drafting
Hello TBBETA Members! Several times now I have had difficulties sending messages I had been created over several days by saving a draft. Just now I couldn't send one even after setting the draft flag in the folder off. I got an error message that TB couldn't find an attached JPEG [actually 2 errors for each image one]. The files had not been moved or renamed, they were just the way they had been when I added them to the mail yesterday. I had, however, to delete the attachments and re-add the very same files. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.0.26.14 (ALPHA) on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1 Chat info upon request However loudly we may assert our own unworthiness, few of us are really offended by hearing the assertion contradicted by a disinterested party. [Dorothy L. Sayers] Current beta is 5.0.26.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
IMAP with Attachments Trouble
Hello TBBETA Members! Just got a mail on an IMAP account containing 4 JPEGs. Instead of showing them as tabs of the message or at least letting me save/open them I only get the massage if TB shall download the full message with all attachments. Clicking OK does nothing - just open the same dialogue again, and again, and again, and again ... -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.0.26.14 (ALPHA) on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1 Chat info upon request If I had to choose between betraying my country and betraying my friend, I hope I should have the guts to betray my country. [E.M. Foster] Current beta is 5.0.26.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bad HTML rendering
Hello TBBETA Members! anybody remember the thread on certain HTML-messages being rendered far to the right by TB? Well, the problem got more annoying, probably because of the new Image Downloader: When I move the horizontal scroll bar such that the actual contents of the message is centre, so I can read it, it jumpd back after a very short moment. Please, RITLabs, make this a priority fix. Thank you! -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.0.26.9 (ALPHA) on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1 Chat info upon request Technique is important only insofar as you must master it in order to communicate what you see... In any case, people think far too much about techniques and not enough about seeing. [Henri Cartier-Bresson] Current beta is 5.0.26.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mailto Protocol not working?
Hello Steve! On Friday, October 28, 2011 at 2:51:00 PM you wrote: Anyone else? Yes. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.0.26.7 (ALPHA) on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1 Chat info upon request Military justice is to justice what military music is to music. [Groucho Marx] Current beta is 5.0.26.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mailto Protocol not working?
Hello Steve! On Friday, October 28, 2011 at 5:54:26 PM you wrote: [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\The Bat! mailto\shell\open\command] C:\\Program Files\\The Bat!\\thebat.exe\ /open:\%1\ That would be which Windows version [see below]? Upon Raymund Tump's suggestion I had a look around in my registry - and, seriously, I am not too keen on laying my hands on it. It's a lot more daunting than on XP, where I regularly manipulated the registry. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.0.26.7 (ALPHA) on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1 Chat info upon request Auch ein anständiger Mensch kann, vorausgesetzt, dass es nie herauskommt, sich heutzutage einen geachteten Namen schaffen. [Karl Kraus] Current beta is 5.0.26.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adress Book future
Hello Thomas! On Wednesday, October 12, 2011 at 12:34:42 AM you wrote: Not working at all. From 700 contacts only 111 are imported. The groups son´t even have the contacts inside. So that´s no professional solution at all. Even worse here, only 2 contacts were imported [but all groups], that's about 1 % of my Google Contacts. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.0.26.2 (ALPHA) on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1 Chat info upon request I never think of the future. It comes soon enough. [Albert Einstein] Current beta is 5.0.26.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Image Downloader
Hello TBBETA Members! I seem to have missed something ... In the past - after the Image Downloader/URL Manager had been added - I clicked on the question mark button of a message and got to the Manager/Downloader. Now the button immediately downloads images for the open message. I am not saying that this is bad, I am only asking if this is intended behaviour. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.0.22.15 (ALPHA) on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1 Chat info upon request The werewolf community wants us to know that their members prefer to be called caninely challenged. [Derek Leveret] Current beta is 5.0.22.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB As System Default on W7-64
Hello Paul! On Friday, September 30, 2011 at 1:31:09 AM you wrote: V4.2.44.2 works correctly with all browsers here. Checked with Firefox 6 and 7, current Chrome, Opera 12 [current beta/snapshot], and IE 9.0.2. And there it gets a little bit weird ... No New Message window with Opera, Chrome, FF but I got one - incl. my standard template with IE. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.0.22.15 (ALPHA) on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1 Chat info upon request It is better to be wrong than to be vague. [Freeman Dyson] Current beta is 5.0.22.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB As System Default on W7-64
Hello Paul! On Friday, September 30, 2011 at 1:24:45 PM you wrote: Do you have Adobe stuff other than Flash? Yes, Design Premium Suite CS3 and Dreamweaver CS4, obviously Acrobat Reader X [making for its own suite of troubles ...]. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.0.22.15 (ALPHA) on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1 Chat info upon request If you know exactly what you're going to say before you say it, why bother? (Also, holds true for writing and filmmaking.) [Errol Morris] Current beta is 5.0.22.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB As System Default on W7-64
Hello Raymund! On Friday, September 30, 2011 at 3:42:38 PM you wrote: All 32 Bit I presume. Can you check in Taskmanager if there is a * 32 next to the process? Yes, all 32-bit, incl. the IE 9 version I originally used for testing [the one that worked]. To complete tests I just ran IE 9 64-bit - which does give me a warning about TB being used to fulfil a call.Upon hitting Allow nothing happens. On the other hand I have Office 2010 32 Bit installed, so that I get my New Mail windows from 32 Bit applications is not a real surprise. As I mentioned earlier: 2007 32-bit. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.0.22.15 (ALPHA) on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1 Chat info upon request Mit einigem Geschick kann man sich aus den Steinen, die einem in den Weg gelegt werden, eine Treppe bauen. [Robert Lembke] Current beta is 5.0.22.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB As System Default on W7-64
Hello Raymund! On Friday, September 30, 2011 at 3:59:21 PM you wrote: Do you work with an administrator account or a restricted user account. I work as administrator with UAC active. Same as you. Annoying as hell but, well, seems to be the only [sensible] way. And it's the default. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.0.22.15 (ALPHA) on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1 Chat info upon request The happiness principle: it is a higher moral principle to always seek happiness with someone else's happiness in mind, and never seek happiness when it leads to someone else's unhappiness. [Michael Shermer] Current beta is 5.0.22.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB As System Default on W7-64
Hello TBBETA Members! I had hoped with my changing from XP to W7-64 this old problem would have been gone: TB is not [fully] used for MAPI or even just MAILTO. A few screengrabs to illustrate: http://www.screencast.com/t/szfthJkHMe Shows the associations for The Bat! in W7's default programs dialogue. http://www.screencast.com/t/hbvcG7sjgHBa a) Despite W7 being set to use TB as default mailer, Opera shows Outlook as system's default [it never was]. b) The customised program handler for TB doesn't work. http://www.screencast.com/t/w0UBfOfG W7's system's defaults shows TB as 'owning all standards'. http://www.screencast.com/t/ByPNDsfyc4ep All file formats and protocols checked and associated. http://www.screencast.com/t/93ciEQkfP W7's dialogue shows MAILTO associated with TB. I hope all description are correctly assigned, if not, the pics on Screencast have them right. Problems: 1. Clicking on a MAILTO link in Opera gives an error message/page by Opera - 'Internal communication error'. 2. Clicking on e-mail notifications from Trillian opens Outlook instead of TB. Same happens when I 'Open Inbox' for an account in Trillian. 3. Using Send to-E-mail client via context-menu on files does not work; it gives a [OUTLOOK] dialogue about the size of the file [if an image] but upon clicking 'OK' nothing happens. 4. Using Send to-The Bat!* via context-menu on files doesn't do anything at all. *I put that in manually. 5. With luck some e-mail address clicked in some programs trigger a New Message window from TB - regrettably completely empty, although intricate templates are defined. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.0.22.15 (ALPHA) on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1 Chat info upon request Tolerance, compassion, charity, steadfastness and faith are considered Christian virtues, i.e. virtues that modern Christians feel they should have ... [Terry Pratchett] Current beta is 5.0.22.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB As System Default on W7-64
Hello George! On Friday, September 30, 2011 at 7:13:50 AM you wrote: I assume that's because you haven't installed Office 2010 64 bit. Well, I haven't either, my Outlook is 32-bit 2007. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.0.22.15 (ALPHA) on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1 Chat info upon request The First Amendment presupposes that right conclusions are more likely to be gathered out of a multitude of tongues, than through any kind of authoritative selection. [Judge Learned Hand as cited in New York Times v. Sullivan] Current beta is 5.0.22.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bad HTML rendering
Hello Sean! On Friday, September 2, 2011 at 7:50:38 AM you wrote: I get emails from play.com and they render far too much to the right of the screen, so much they bleed off. Same here with the occasional Amazon offer [not sure which, Germany, UK, or US or which of them]. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.0.22.12 (ALPHA) on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1 Chat info upon request Auch ein anständiger Mensch kann, vorausgesetzt, dass es nie herauskommt, sich heutzutage einen geachteten Namen schaffen. [Karl Kraus] Current beta is 5.0.22.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
MAPI on W7-64 Problem
Hello TBBETA Members! when calling up TB via system MAPI, i.e. clicking a mailto link in my browser, TB's main window opens up but no new message window. Further info on system: Outlook 2007 installed [not used for e-mail], every now and again I need to sync an older WM 6.1 smartphone with my computer using W7's built-in mobile centre. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.0.22.12 (ALPHA) on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1 Chat info upon request Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote. [Benjamin Franklin] Current beta is 5.0.22.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sounds for new mails
Hello Thomas! On Thursday, August 18, 2011 at 4:25:50 PM you wrote: Is there a bug tacker entry for this? I didn't open one because it is so elusive. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.0.22.9 (ALPHA) on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1 Chat info upon request It's a matter of what one sees in history - the specific events of the time or lessons in possibilities for today. [Derek Leveret] Current beta is 5.0.22.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sounds for new mails
Hello Thomas! On Wednesday, August 17, 2011 at 7:40:50 PM you wrote: I don't use IMAP, so I am just relaying this. Did the sound work in v4 and not any more in v5? Or is he doing something wrong? Sometimes it works, sometimes not. I haven't a clue why it goes off only intermittently. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.0.22.9 (ALPHA) on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1 Chat info upon request I never criticize my friends; if they are true friends they shall be what they be. [Derek Leveret] Current beta is 5.0.22.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: item for wish list
Hello Mark! On Tuesday, August 9, 2011 at 11:55:05 AM you wrote: Why limit this to TB! ? There's loads of applications, incl. TB with its QTs, giving the user semi-automated text, like PowerPro macros or ClipMate. While TB's own QT have a lot more power than the original poster wants to use, the same is true of most of clipboard extenders and text exploders. Personally I don't see why one shouldn't simply use TB's existing functionality. For instance dierk.haa...@dh2publishing.info This is one line in a QT, inserted by typing 'Mail', then hitting Strg+Blank; I could've done the same by typing .+mail, which invokes a PowerPro macro. The difference being one keystroke [and a strange problem with dots, my keyboard and Windows]. In short: The feature requested already exists within TB. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.0.22.6 (ALPHA) on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1 Chat info upon request A person who smiles in the face of adversity probably has a scapegoat. [Derek Leveret] Current beta is 5.0.22.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.22.4 (ALPHA)
Hello Vilius! On Saturday, August 6, 2011 at 3:23:36 PM you wrote: The dates for English Windows with Lithuanian regional settings are shown in English format now :( If are running W7* that's a problem of the OS; I experience the same with German UI for Windows [TB runs in English]. I have the same problem with several programs. *Might even be confined to 64-bit with 32-bit programs. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.0.22.3 (ALPHA) on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1 Chat info upon request I don't care if the film doesn't make a nickel. I just want every man, woman, and child in America to see it. [Samuel Goldwyn] Current beta is 5.0.22.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.22.4 (ALPHA)
Hello Roger! On Saturday, August 6, 2011 at 4:40:15 PM you wrote: How can one get it to display 24hr times, not AM or PM? From my experiences with, for instance, Paradox and a few others we need to wait for Microsoft to address this. Unless they already have two different ways to access their date-time API. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.0.22.4 (ALPHA) on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1 Chat info upon request If your photographs aren't good enough, you aren't close enough. [Robert Capa] Current beta is 5.0.22.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
[v5.x]: Editor Problem - Formatting Lines
Hello TBBETA Members! For some v5 builds now there's a very annoying bug in TB's editor[s]. Putting the cursor at the end of the line, hitting Enter, then starting to write gives that mangled formatting. The new line is pulled back into the previous, then the whole paragraph is reformatted automatically. Particularly bad when I try to build a table-like e-mail. Pics speak louder than words: http://screencast.com/t/XD0CfOFXE http://screencast.com/t/vpmryZC77E -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.0.22.3 (ALPHA) on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1 Chat info upon request Wenn ich nicht Anti-Kommunist wäre, würde ich sofort Kommunist werden! [Aleks Papst] Current beta is 5.0.22.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Sounds Not Playing
Hello TBBETA Members! With 5.0.14 TB stopped playing sounds associated with accounts receiving new mail. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.0.14.1 on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1 Chat info upon request Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience. [Scott Adams] Current beta is 5.0.14.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Ghost from the IMAP
Hello Mark! On Wednesday, June 8, 2011 at 11:23:31 AM you wrote: Soory I meant TB's IMAP cache. Right click on the folder and select properties. Then select IMAP Specific and Clear Cache Now. Thanks for this! Me, too. solved the prob. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.0.12.13 (BETA) on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1 Chat info upon request You can love somebody even after knowing him for just a second. [Derek Leveret] Current beta is 5.0.12.13 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Ghost from the IMAP
Hello TBBETA Members! IMAP account [GMail]: There's this one unread message popping up every morning on first running TB since Thursday. I deleted it everywhere - from within TB, from my Android, within GMail itself - but it persistently comes back. How do I rid myself of it permanently? Here's a screen grab: http://screencast.com/t/1EOaI63Zqm -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.0.12.13 (BETA) on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1 Chat info upon request No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is the worst form of government... except all those other forms that have been tried from time to time. [Sir Winston Churchill] Current beta is 5.0.12.13 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Ghost from the IMAP
Hello Stuart! On Tuesday, June 7, 2011 at 2:32:12 PM you wrote: Have you tried deleting the cache? Windows' cache? Incidentally yes, of sorts - I moved to a new computer since Friday evening, TB restored from backup on Saturday. And it is only this one message haunting me, non other from earlier or the same day. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.0.12.13 (BETA) on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1 Chat info upon request Man sagt doch immer, dass Frauen Wärme spenden, aber wo soll die herkommen, wenn sie als halb verhungerte Gerippe rumlaufen? [Aleks Papst] Current beta is 5.0.12.13 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Spell Checker: Hunspell
Hello TBBETA Members! Bring me up to date, a while ago TB made use of Hunspell beside their own option. I did install it, and as far as I can see it is still installed [Hunspell.DLL in TB directory] but TB does not use it - at least all options on its tab are greyed out. I only stumbled upon this because I find the German checker used [SSCE] deeply lacking in helpfulness, it doesn't know many words, has major trouble with word forms and seems to not know the basics of German morphology. In short: it has much too much false positives. Resultant question: Anything wrong with my Hunspell installation? Bonus: If any programming resources could be freed up by scrapping the German spell checker in favour of working on, say, Global View Modes - RITLabs, do it. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.0.12.12 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info upon request Das 11. Gebot: Du solltest vertrauen auf Deines Nachbarn Dummheit. [Aleks Papst] Current beta is 5.0.12.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Working MAPI on 64 bit Windows
Hello George! On Monday, May 23, 2011 at 10:22:34 AM you wrote: Is there any chance that the users of 64bit windows got a working mapi? TB can't use the 64bit outlook mapi and TB's mapi (32 bit) can't be a primary mapi on an 64 bit windows system. Really? I mean, REALLY? So, MAPI on XP doesn't work well if Outlook and ActiveSync are necessary, but upgrading my whole system to W7 64 will not work either? Worse, it would make TB completely useless? Hm ... [thinking hard about future of e-mail in my workflow] -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.0.12.6 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info upon request When two opposite points of view are expressed with equal intensity, the truth does not necessarily lie exactly half way between. It is possible for one side simply to be wrong. [Richard Dawkins] Current beta is 5.0.12.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Working MAPI on 64 bit Windows
Hello George! On Monday, May 23, 2011 at 11:55:45 AM you wrote: The problem is not with windows 7 64bit but with Office 64bit. While I don't blame Ritlabs for this, thing is that in order for a MAPI application to work with 64 bit Outlook installed, the application should be built as 64 bit application. [...] If your existing 32-bit MAPI application is going to be running on a computer with 64-bit Outlook installed, you will need to rebuild your 32-bit application as a 64-bit application. Phew, good, I don't intend to run OL 64, my current 32-bit version is quite all right with me. 64-bit W7 is needed for me to address the full RAM [8 GB] as I need loads of it for image processing and handling. Thanks for clearing that up! -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.0.12.6 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info upon request Be contend with what you get, and what you get will be contend with you. [Derek Leveret] Current beta is 5.0.12.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12.5
Hello Maxim! On Saturday, May 21, 2011 at 1:05:59 PM you wrote: [-] AV when trying to delete message (beta issue) Does deletion of messages work at all again? I didn't have an AV, just couldn't delete [POP3]. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.0.12.3 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info upon request Be good and you will be lonesome. [Mark Twain] Current beta is 5.0.12.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12.5
Hello Tony! On Saturday, May 21, 2011 at 4:30:26 PM you wrote: For me it works (checked on few accounts, all POP3). I will confirm that using IMAP, normal deletion and alternative deletion work. Yes, deletion works again on POP3 and somewhat on IMAP [could be a GMail thing; I'll have to investigate more]. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.0.12.5 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info upon request Never trust a woman who tells you her real age; if she tells you that, she'll tell you anything. [Oscar Wilde] Current beta is 5.0.12.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
[5.0.12.5] Still Quick Crash on First Send
Hello TBBETA Members! Again TB crashed when I send a reply for the first time after opening it. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.0.12.5 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info upon request You have to be able to stand living with the tensions of opposites. [Niels Bohr] Current beta is 5.0.12.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12.4
Hello Richard! On Thursday, May 19, 2011 at 8:35:13 PM you wrote: G Deleting messages with Entf does not work anymore. G Deleting with context menue or Delete button from button bar non-functional. Confirmed. Me too. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.0.12.4 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info upon request In zweifelhaften Fällen entscheide man sich für das Richtige. [Karl Kraus] Current beta is 5.0.12.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
[5.0.12.4] Quick Crash on First Send
Hello TBBETA Members! This happens to me for a number of version now, I open a new beta for the first time, want to answer to a post, create it, hit the keyboard shortcut for Send - and TB vanishes fast and silently. Message is not sent but luckily in the Outbox. Next time opening TB it works fine. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.0.12.4 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info upon request Democracies aren't supposed to lock up people for years on a hunch, no matter how well you feed them. [Carl Hiaasen] Current beta is 5.0.12.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: No Filters fix yet. Hardd to believe
Hello Arjan! On Monday, May 9, 2011 at 12:16:21 PM you wrote: It's quite probable that after this you won't hear from me for another year (or 2 or 3). Or perhaps you won't hear from me ever again. I don't know. Ok, this is annoying. I am - as the very few posts I had here over the past few months show [and Marck can attest to] - not at all happy with v5. I don't need to enumerate all the bugs again; like you I am very miffed about some basic functionality being broken. I've listed what needs to be done urgently, it hasn't been fixed, yet, I have vented about that fact. And that's it. I don't come here to engage in a completely fruitless debate on whose is longer [no, not what you think; I meant breath]. I don't come here to throw invectives at a company and their employees - for the very simple reason that it does not help. You've made your point, move on. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.0.12.1 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info upon request Die Zeit wird kommen, wo unsere Nachkommen sich wundern, da wir so offenbare Dinge nicht gewusst haben. [Lucius Annaeus Seneca] Current beta is 5.0.12.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.10 MSI (release?)
Hello NetVicious! On Monday, May 2, 2011 at 11:52:37 PM you wrote: Not confirmed here try it with a collapsed thread. In the past you could navigate from oldest to newest even in collapsed state by simply deleting the message you just read from the top down. Since 2 or 3 builds back deleting the first message in a thread deletes the whole thread [formerly you needed a modifier key to do that]. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.0.10.1 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info upon request Kein Mensch ist so beschäftigt, dass er nicht die Zeit hat, überall zu erzählen, wie beschäftigt er ist. [Robert Lembke] Current beta is 5.0.10.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.9.7 (Priority List)
Hello Marck! On Saturday, April 30, 2011 at 12:35:46 PM you wrote: Sometimes a bug will take too long to fix and the attempt will delay a release that contains many other important fixes and feature updates. While frustrating for those affected by such a bug, I can understand why these things happen. Lots of true things in what you say. Unfortunately the official release of v5 [as before with every other major official release version] was so premature that the remaining [active] users of TB might be a tad offended. Many have reported severe bugs, which are still in a program version SOLD to unsuspecting folks. We need not wade too deep into marketing waters to see that there is a problem: finding a well-featured mail client which shows ghost messages, crashes frequently, produces AVs and Exceptions regularly, does not filter correctly ... in short, does not handle the basics of a mail client is not persuasive to shell out money. E-mail is increasingly shifting toward Web/cloud services, from Facebook messages to Twitter, Web mailers like Google, smartphones. A desktop client is not a necessity anymore, it is a luxury. I am still on POP3 for essentially one reason, The Bat!, sadly the reasons I want to use it dwindle as the very features I want to use don't do their job. I recommended TB for years to private and business contacts, without them paying me to help with setting it up. It was for sheer enthusiasm. Last year I was called in by a client to help set up his new computer. I thought about recommending TB, setting it up, as I think it would increase his productivity. Well, in a first round, for historical reasons, we went with Thunderbird, which I find ... [put in expletive of choice]. After a few months we decided to change to Outlook ... I cannot recommend TB! anymore because it does not enhance productivity anymore. It hinders it. For instance, I have to start the program two times when I run it the first time because some message stays in the Mail Ticker although it is marked read and deleted. That is not just annoying. And filters, and View Modes, the dreaded TMailHandler Released Before ... -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.0.9.7 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info upon request Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it. [Don Knuth] Current beta is 5.0.9.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.9.4
Hello Maxim! On Tuesday, April 26, 2011 at 1:14:34 AM you wrote: [-] (#0008582) EML/MSG/VCF association erro under WinXP when saving Preferences dialog Ah, solved! And now for sticky View Modes [for Virtual Folders] ... -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.0.9.4 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info upon request However loudly we may assert our own unworthiness, few of us are really offended by hearing the assertion contradicted by a disinterested party. [Dorothy L. Sayers] Current beta is 5.0.9.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: tbmapi.dll
Hello Maxim! On Monday, April 25, 2011 at 2:37:58 PM you wrote: Please download http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tbmapi.rar and replace old tbmapi.dll files to the new file from the archive. Will this now work with ActivSync, too, or does it still provide just the very, very basic MAPI functionality? -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.0.9.3 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info upon request What better theological franchise than the promise of everlasting life: You invest now with your blood and sweat, and your big payoff is not due until the after-life. Postmortal rewards cost theologians nothing. [Robert R. Provine] Current beta is 5.0.9.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Ghost Messages
Hello TBBETA Members! With at least every first time start [on a given day] TB shows messages on the MT that will not be shown in the MT browse message window. Sometimes the messages are foud [as unread] in the folder tree, like this time. Deleting them, or just marking them read, will not stop the MT showing them. I closed TB, got an error about the release of some unused T-something, the MT ran on, after a while showing a non-existent, empty message. Had to force-close TB via task manager. Here's a screen grab of the MT with ghost messages: http://screencast.com/t/KACLtoBt1A -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.0.8.1 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info upon request Buss’s Third Law of Human Mating: For every mating adaptation in one sex, there exists at least one co-evolved adaptation in the other sex designed to manipulate and exploit it. Buss’s Fourth Law of Human Mating: For every co-evolved exploitative mating adaptation, there exists at least one co-co-evolved defensive adaptation designed to circumvent being manipulated and exploited. Buss’s Seventh Law of Human Mating: Never reveal your first two laws of mating, lest they be used to manipulate and exploit you. [David Buss] Current beta is 5.0.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
[v5] HTML Message Example No 3
This is a forwarded message From: t r u t h o u t messen...@truthout.org To: dhaa...@gmail.com dhaa...@gmail.com Date: Mittwoch, 6. April 2011, 04:28:01 Subject: William Rivers Pitt | The Nowhere Man Hello Maxim, here's another one coming up correct - text justified left, it also uses another font [serif, while TB show sans-serif] - in Opera but wrong in TB. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.0.6.1 BETA on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info upon request Second Marriage: Another instance of the triumph of hope over experience. [Samuel Johnson]---BeginMessage--- t r u t h o u t | 04.05 William Rivers Pitt | The Nowhere Man http://www.truth-out.org/nowhere-man William Rivers Pitt, Truthout: So, yeah, Obama is in. The President of the United States officially threw his hat into the 2012 election ring on Monday morning, and the nation reacted with a resounding, 'Oh.' What a mess. It wasn't even two and a half years ago. Can you believe it? Two and a half years ago, there was a detonation of optimism that echoed across the country once the returns were in on that November night. People took to the streets here in Boston, literally banging pots and pans together as they danced and shouted in celebration ... Hindsight, however, tells us today that much of that optimism was wildly misplaced. The long shadow of George W. Bush still hung low and dark over the land, as it does even now. Thom Hartmann | The Boston Tea Party Revealed http://www.truth-out.org/boston-tea-party-revealed/1301986800 Thom Hartmann, Berrett-Koehler Publishers: The East India Company set a precedent that multinational corporations follow to this day: it lobbied for laws that would enable it to easily put its small-business competitors out of business. By 1681 most of the members of the British government and royalty were stockholders in the East India Company, so it was easy that year to pass 'An Act for the restraining and punishing Privateers and Pirates.' This law required a license to import anything into the Americas (among other British-controlled parts of the world), and the licenses were only rarely granted except to the East India Company and other large British corporations. Henry A. Giroux | American Militarism and the End(s) of Higher Education http://www.truth-out.org/american-militarism-and-ends-higher-education Henry A. Giroux, Truthout: As the spirit of a hypermilitarized America bleeds into everyday life, politics increasingly becomes an extension of war, and right-wing, liberal and conservative politicians eagerly embrace a militaristic approach to policy and the need to cleanse the social order of any institution, mode of dissent, social group and public sphere willing to question its state of permanent war and its militarized and unchecked embrace of economic Darwinism. These foreign and domestic wars are not unrelated, given that they are waged in the interests of right-wing militarists, neoconservatives, liberals and corporate moguls - all of whom have a political and economic stake in such military incursions abroad and wars at home. News in Brief: Ivory Coast President May Surrender, and More ... http://www.truth-out.org/news-brief-ivory-coast-president-may-surrender-and-more Nadia Prupis, Truthout: Ivory Coast president may surrender power; 9/11 suspect Khalid Sheikh Mohammed will be tried at Guantanamo; Ryan's budget bill would make drastic cuts to Medicare and Medicaid while lowering tax rates for businesses and corporations; and more ... Robert Naiman | Conyers: Congress Should Bar US Ground Troops From Libya http://www.truth-out.org/conyers-congress-should-bar-us-ground-troops-libya/1301986800 Robert Naiman, Truthout: Michigan Rep. John Conyers has put forward an initiative that has a very strong claim to majority support. Conyers plans to introduce an amendment to the next government funding bill - the Continuing Resolution - that would prevent appropriated funds from being used to fund any type of ground troop presence on Libyan territory. Together with Representatives Honda, Stark, and Woolsey, Representative Conyers is circulating a letter to his colleagues in support of this amendment. This position has strong majority support from Americans. Seven out of ten Americans oppose the use of US ground troops in Libya, according to a CNN poll. A recent Quinnipiac University poll found that by a margin of 61-30, voters say regime change in Libya is not worth having American troops 'fight and possibly die' for. Republicans' Budget Declares War on Medicare http://www.truth-out.org/republicans-budget-declares-war-medicare/1301986800 Lindsay Beyerstein, The Media Consortium: The Republicans are poised to unveil a model budget on Tuesday that would effectively end Medicare by privatizing it, Steve Benen reports in the Washington Monthly. House Budget Committee Chair Paul Ryan (R-WI) is touting the budget as a strategy to reduce
