Re[2]: NNTP newsreader

2008-02-11 Thread The Janitor
11 February 2008 - 21:27 Hello Miguel, Monday, February 11, 2008, 4:32:30 PM, you wrote: M You probably mean this thread: M http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/msg95242.html M The reply by Jos Klaassens includes a link to download MyGate That's the one and I'm now up and

Re: NNTP newsreader

2008-02-11 Thread MAU
Hello The, Not long ago I seem to remember a posting (or a link) explaining how to receive newsgroup posts via TB! I'm unable to find it in the archives; can anyone point me in the right direction please? You probably mean this thread:

NNTP newsreader

2008-02-11 Thread The Janitor
11 February 2008 - 13:44 Hello Tbudl, Not long ago I seem to remember a posting (or a link) explaining how to receive newsgroup posts via TB! I'm unable to find it in the archives; can anyone point me in the right direction please? -- Best regards, William Flying with The Bat! Professional

Re: NNTP newsreader

2008-02-11 Thread MAU
Hello The, That's the one and I'm now up and running :-) Many thanks. What do you mean 'many thanks'? If you are not new to this list you should know you owe me a beer ;-) Glad it's working for you :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.12.2

Re: newsreader

2002-06-30 Thread Miguel A. Urech
Hello Nick, Let me offer up some kudos to Miguel for this. I don't want any kudos... unless it is a new brand of beer. ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.60c Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ:

Re: newsreader

2002-06-23 Thread Haico
On 21-6-2002 at 19:06, Joseph N. wrote: Hi Joseph, I had read several times that Gravity was no longer being developed or supported. But then I've read here some new references to it. I went online to find it, but found only old references and couldn't even connect to MicroPlanet. Is

Re: newsreader

2002-06-23 Thread Haico
On 22-6-2002 at 13:42, Allie C Martin wrote: moderator This OT thread which is allowed only if it's kept short is getting out of hand. Would you kindly take it off list from hence forth. Thanks. /moderator I apologize for sending the last message. Saw this just after my reply on this

Re: newsreader

2002-06-22 Thread Zachary Robbins
Friday, June 21, 2002, 9:02:25 AM, Nick Andriash wrote: Agent supports scoring now? That is news to me, as it sure didn't last time I used it, which is why I 'upgraded' to XNews. ;o) What is scoring? I've been reading Usenet for years and have never heard the term. -- Zach

Re: newsreader

2002-06-22 Thread Allie C Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Zachary Robbins [ZR] wrote: ZR What is scoring? I've been reading Usenet for years and have never ZR heard the term. moderator This OT thread which is allowed only if it's kept short is getting

Re: newsreader

2002-06-21 Thread Jonathan Angliss
On Thursday, June 20, 2002, Greg Strong wrote... Yes the lack of multiple news servers is an issue which will be fixed in version 2 according to Forte. I only connect to 2 news servers, so I just run multiple instances. This is NOT a real problem. Maybe I'll get back to using it in version

Re[2]: newsreader

2002-06-21 Thread Joseph N.
On Friday, June 21, 2002, Jonathan Angliss wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: JA There are so many useful features in Agent, it makes it difficult to JA learn them all. Jonathan, Is Agent good at offline reading, and can one compose messages offline to be dispatched on next

Re: newsreader

2002-06-21 Thread Nick Andriash
Hello Jonathan Angliss, In Reference to your Posting on Friday, June 21 2002 at 07:21 AM PDT, There are so many useful features in Agent, it makes it difficult to learn them all. The speed kill files are really useful, along with proper support for scoring Agent supports scoring now? That

Re: newsreader

2002-06-21 Thread Nick Danger
Subject: Newsreader From: Miguel Urech ~~ Hello Miguel, As you may already know, I use TB for newsgroups... and with multiple servers. Yes, with the aid of the News-to-Mail and Mail-to-News routers of MailTraq's free version. Let me

Re: newsreader

2002-06-21 Thread Jonathan Angliss
On Friday, June 21, 2002, Nick Andriash wrote... Agent supports scoring now? That is news to me, as it sure didn't last time I used it, which is why I 'upgraded' to XNews. ;o) My bad... hehe... I got Xnews and Agent mixed up... some of the screens look remarkably similar ;) -- Jonathan

Re: newsreader

2002-06-21 Thread Jernej Simoni
Hello Joseph, 21. junij 2002, 17:56:53, you wrote: JN Is Agent good at offline reading, and can one compose messages offline JN to be dispatched on next connection? It should be (but it's a long time since I used agent). I did exactly this with Gravity - and I always preferred Gravity's

Re[2]: newsreader

2002-06-21 Thread Joseph N.
On Friday, June 21, 2002, Jernej Simoni wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: JS It should be (but it's a long time since I used agent). I did exactly JS this with Gravity - and I always preferred Gravity's interface to JS Agent's. I had read several times that Gravity was no

Re[3]: newsreader

2002-06-21 Thread Deborah W
On Friday, June 21, 2002, 6:06:21 PM, Joseph N. wrote: JN I had read several times that Gravity was no longer being developed or JN supported. But then I've read here some new references to it. I went JN online to find it, but found only old references and couldn't even JN connect to

Re[3]: newsreader

2002-06-21 Thread Peter Kerekes
Hello Joseph, Friday, June 21, 2002, 11:56:53 AM, you wrote: JNOn Friday, June 21, 2002, Jonathan Angliss wrote in JN [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: JA There are so many useful features in Agent, it makes it difficult to JA learn them all. JN Jonathan, JN Is Agent good at

Re[4]: newsreader

2002-06-21 Thread Joseph N.
On Friday, June 21, 2002, Deborah W wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: DW I found a website which had a pretty good Gravity reference section a DW while back; if you'd like, I can dig it out. Deborah, Thanks for the offer. I think I'll stick with Xnews for now. -- JN

Re: newsreader

2002-06-21 Thread Greg Strong
Hello Jonathan, Friday, June 21, 2002, 9:21:39 AM, you wrote: JA There are so many useful features in Agent, it makes it difficult to JA learn them all. The speed kill files are really useful, along with JA proper support for scoring, and a nice filtering setup. I saw Nick's reply on scoring.

Re: newsreader

2002-06-21 Thread Greg Strong
Hello Nick, Friday, June 21, 2002, 11:02:25 AM, you wrote: NA Agent supports scoring now? That is news to me, as it sure didn't NA last time I used it, which is why I 'upgraded' to XNews. ;o) The interesting thought on this discussion and similar ones in the past is whether TB! will

Re: newsreader

2002-06-20 Thread Greg Strong
I decided to move on from VA which is an email client, newsreader, Compuserve Forum OLR, I decided to replace the functionality with what I thought was the best in the market. This is how I ended up with Agent TB!. I thought I'd be able to grow with them. I'm sure others differ from

Re: Newsreader

2002-06-16 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Pete! On Saturday, June 15, 2002 at 8:23:25 PM you wrote: Dick, Thanks, but it actually is Dierk; wich is based upon Dietrich (in English Derek), not quite the same as Richard. Any other suggestions? If you are happy with Opera, stay with it. If you want more from a newsreader try

Re[2]: Newsreader

2002-06-16 Thread Pete Milne
Replying to your message of Sunday, June 16, 2002, 1:11:38 AM: DH Thanks, but it actually is Dierk; wich is based upon Dietrich (in DH English Derek), not quite the same as Richard. Dierk, Actually, I did type Dierk but my keyboard never does what I tell it, I sit here and yell at it all the

Re: Newsreader

2002-06-16 Thread Greg Strong
Hello Dierk, Sunday, June 16, 2002, 2:11:38 AM, you wrote: DH If you are happy with Opera, stay with it. If you want more from a DH newsreader try Free Agent until you see the need for full DH e-mailing and support of non-English characters, then go to Agent DH and pay for it. Free Agent 1.92

Newsreader

2002-06-15 Thread Pete Milne
Replying to your message of Saturday, June 15, 2002, 9:56:08 AM: DH I've used Agent for some DH time as a newsreader (still unbeaten) Dick, I use Opera newsreader, it is quite basic, all I do is read and post. Would you suggest Agent for this application or should I stick with Opera (don't

Re: Newsreader

2002-06-15 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Pete, on Sat, 15 Jun 2002 12:23:25 -0600GMT (15.06.02, 20:23 +0200GMT here), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : PM I use Opera newsreader, it is quite basic, all I do is read and post. PM Any other suggestions? I don't use newsgroups too often, but when I d

Re: Newsreader

2002-06-15 Thread Tim Musson
se Opera newsreader, it is quite basic, all I do is read and post. PM Any other suggestions? PM I don't use newsgroups too often, but when I do I find Gravity 2.50 PM fulfilling all my needs. It is great for downloading and reading news PM offline. It isn't supported by the developers any more, and I do

Re: Newsreader

2002-06-15 Thread Jan Rifkinson
Hi Peter. At 3:19 PM on Saturday, June 15, 2002 you wrote the following about [Newsreader]: PM I use Opera newsreader, it is quite basic, all I do is read and post. PM Any other suggestions xnews -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V1.60q/W2K_SP2 ICQ 41116329

RE: Newsreader

2002-06-15 Thread utomo
NewsPro http://www.usenetopia.com Newsgrabber Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech

Re: Newsreader

2002-06-15 Thread Adam
Hello Peter, Saturday, June 15, 2002, 4:49:46 PM, you wrote: PM I don't use newsgroups too often, but when I do I find Gravity 2.50 PM fulfilling all my needs. Or a little more topical, can you direct it to use TB for news replies? -- Best regards, Adam

What newsreader do you use?

2001-02-02 Thread John
Hello, Since the Bat! does not read news for the moment (I understand this function will be added in a near future), which newsreader do you either use or recommend? Best RegardsJohn -- __ Archives : Moderators : <mailto:[EM

Re: What newsreader do you use?

2001-02-02 Thread Karin Spaink
On 02-02-2001 at 18:07, John kindly wrote: Since the Bat! does not read news for the moment (I understand this function will be added in a near future), which newsreader do you either use or recommend? Many people here use Agent, or its free derivate Free Agent. - K - -- When women hold

Re: What newsreader do you use?

2001-02-02 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone
it. Some even have filters to move any HTML mail directly to trash. /moderator J Since the Bat! does not read news for the moment (I understand this J function will be added in a near future), which newsreader do you J either use or recommend? Many here use Agent or Free agent. Another popular reader

Re[2]: What newsreader do you use?

2001-02-02 Thread John Phillips
Marck D. Pearlstone wrote, On Fri, 2 Feb 2001, at 17:22:40 [GMT +] (04:22 Australian Eastern Time,Saturday): MDP Please do not write to the list in HTML. It is against the list MDP rules and many of the members here do not appreciate it. Some MDP even have filters to move any HTML mail

Re: What newsreader do you use?

2001-02-02 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi John, On 02 February 2001 at 05:53:50 +1100 (which was 18:53 where I live) John Phillips wrote and made these points: MDP Please do not write to the list in HTML. It is against the list MDP rules and many of the members here do not appreciate

Re: What newsreader do you use?

2001-02-02 Thread Nick Andriash
On February 2, 2001, at 9:07:46 AM, John Wrote: J which newsreader do you either use or recommend? XNews... It's small, fast, efficient and it's free: http://xnews.3dnews.net/ Nick N.J. Andriash [ TB! v1.49c | PGP 7.0.3 | Win 98 SE ] Vancouver, B.C. Canada | PGP Key ID: 0x7BA3FDCE

Re: Newsreader Agent

2000-10-04 Thread Luca
additions it would be perfect - not only as a newsreader but as a programme ... Yes. I find TB very similar to Agent, I just miss Agent's editor and keyboard shortcuts for navigation. -- Luca -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http

Re: Newsreader Agent

2000-10-04 Thread Ming-Li
On Wednesday, October 04, 2000, 3:32:46 AM, Luca wrote: Well, I found today a recent thread with some news by Jeffrey Kaplan (Agent Support Team) stating that Forte (i.e Genesys i.e. ATT) is not interested anymore in Agent. Would you point me to that message, please? You do know how

Re: Newsreader Agent

2000-10-04 Thread Dierk Haasis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Ming-Li! On Wednesday, October 04, 2000 at 2:52:38 PM you wrote: You do know how to use deja or its equivalent, don't you? I can't speak for Dierk, but I suspect he would have to dig it out in deja should he want to point you to it. After

Re: Newsreader Agent

2000-10-04 Thread Ming-Li
On Wednesday, October 04, 2000, 7:39:53 AM, Dierk wrote: You do know how to use deja or its equivalent, don't you? I can't speak for Dierk, but I suspect he would have to dig it out in deja should he want to point you to it. After all, he can't point you to his Agent database, can he?

Re: Newsreader Agent

2000-10-04 Thread Luca
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 05:52:38 -0700 From: Ming-Li [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Newsreader Agent http://x56.deja.com/[ST_rn=ps]/getdoc.xp?AN=671102181CONTEXT=970663404.1357774895hitnum=0 Thanx for this link (and for the hint about fonts, love it). You do know how to use deja or its

Re: Newsreader Agent

2000-09-21 Thread Ming-Li
On Wednesday, September 20, 2000, 12:38:11 PM, Dierk wrote: I have to apologize to Ming: You are right, it seems Forte actually has stopped development on Agent. No need to apologize. It's a sad thing nevertheless, though I've seen it long time coming. Because of this, I'm constantly

Newsreader Agent

2000-09-20 Thread Dierk Haasis
by Jeffrey Kaplan (Agent Support Team) stating that Forte (i.e Genesys i.e. ATT) is not interested anymore in Agent. Sad to say, with just some minor additions it would be perfect - not only as a newsreader but as a programme ... BTW, I found some comments by a TB! user who really finds

Re: How to make the bat work like newsreader?

2000-08-17 Thread Ming-Li
at it be implemented in The Bat! unless it was part of an integrated newsreader. This I don't agree, exactly because it's useful for mailing lists reading. Not everyone takes the trouble routing mailing-list mail to another account as you do. -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.4

Re: VOTE against the newsreader integrated in the next version of the bat? E-mail ritlabs?

2000-08-17 Thread Ming-Li
Hi Paula, Sorry for babbling, but my point is: Why the need for a newsreader with TheBat? Perhaps not a need, but a desire to be able to organize, manage, store messages from both sources together. I agree with you and Chuck. I also happen to find newsreader and email client fit quite

Re[2]: VOTE against the newsreader integrated in the next version of the bat? E-mail ritlabs?

2000-08-17 Thread Arno van Stralen
Hi Ming-Li, Thursday, August 17, 2000, 3:00:46 PM, you wrote: Perhaps not a need, but a desire to be able to organize, manage, store messages from both sources together. Ming-Li I also happen to find newsreader and email client fit quite nicely Ming-Li together. Agent became so popular

Re: How to make the bat work like newsreader?

2000-08-16 Thread David Getchell
Hi Starc! well, after I suggested that we make a newsgroup, some answered that the bat already offers all functionality a newsreader would give us. So I'm asking now: how must I configure the bat to be able to read this discussion list like a newsgroup? This is off topic, and possibly

Re: VOTE against the newsreader integrated in the next version of the bat? E-mail ritlabs?

2000-08-16 Thread Paula Ford
On Tuesday, August 15, 2000, Christine Bonelli wrote: snip Sorry for babbling, but my point is: Why the need for a newsreader with TheBat? Perhaps not a need, but a desire to be able to organize, manage, store messages from both sources together. I download 1000's of messages a day related

Re: VOTE against the newsreader integrated in the next version of the bat? E-mail ritlabs?

2000-08-15 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi starc, On 01 July 2000 at 21:52:10 GMT -0300 (which was 01:52 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject of "VOTE against the newsreader integrated in the next version of the bat? E-mail ritlabs?

Re: VOTE against the newsreader integrated in the next version of the bat? E-mail ritlabs?

2000-08-15 Thread randybr
I use the bat BECAUSE it allows me to turn OFF html decoding of messages (when i want a web browser, i'll use a web browser)frankly i wish that ability had never been added to the bat either it is not bloated with a newsreader (or other) program that i do not want or need (with all

Re[2]: VOTE against the newsreader integrated in the next version of the bat? E-mail ritlabs?

2000-08-15 Thread Deryk Lister
I would have to be one to vote against. I've seen all this before, when a simple program tries to be a load of other things at the same time and turns into a bloat or something else horrible. Some examples from the past of things that have started off simple and powerful, but turned into

Re[2]: VOTE against the newsreader integrated in the next version of the bat? E-mail ritlabs?

2000-08-15 Thread Christine Bonelli
ot bloated with a newsreader (or other) program that i do not want rpn or need (with all the spam, i hardly ever directly read usenet anymore, i use rpn dejanews to search instead) I like checking out usenet when I get the chance. For the longest time, my newsreader of choice was Gravity, but there was

Re: VOTE against the newsreader integrated in the next version of the bat? E-mail ritlabs?

2000-08-15 Thread Chuck Mattsen
On Tuesday, August 15, 2000 at 10:41 PM or thereabouts, Christine Bonelli wrote the following about VOTE against the newsreader integrated in the next version of the bat? E-mail ritlabs?: CB Sorry for babbling, but my point is: Why the need for a newsreader CB with TheBat? I've got enough junk

How to make the bat work like newsreader?

2000-08-14 Thread starc
Hello TBUDL, well, after I suggested that we make a newsgroup, some answered that the bat already offers all functionality a newsreader would give us. So I'm asking now: how must I configure the bat to be able to read this discussion list like a newsgroup? To be more specific, how can I do

Re: How to make the bat work like newsreader?

2000-08-14 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hallo starc, On Fri, 30 Jun 2000 08:00:53 -0300 GMT (30/06/2000, 19:00 +0800 GMT), starc wrote: s 1. I want to be able to browse the messages while they are still on my s pop server. I want to read the subject and then be able to download s only the messages which I'm interested in. One user

Re: How to make the bat work like newsreader?

2000-08-14 Thread Arno van Stralen
between references, subject, author and date. References is the most convenient way to read your mail, especially if you want to have that "newsreader look-and-feel". You can choose your desired option by clicking View - View Threads By. -- Best regards, Arno

Re: How to make the bat work like newsreader?

2000-08-14 Thread A . Curtis Martin
On Mon, 14 Aug 2000 16:32:40 +0100, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: s 2. I want messages that are not from TBUDL to be downloaded directly s to their specific folders, so only the messages from TBUDL are kept s on the server for browsing. MDP This doesn't sound possible with TB. Hmmm. The selective

Re: How to make the bat work like newsreader?

2000-08-14 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi A, On 14 August 2000 at 12:38:52 GMT -0500 (which was 18:38 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject of "How to make the bat work like newsreader?": s 2. I want messages that are not

Re: How to make the bat work like newsreader?

2000-08-14 Thread A . Curtis Martin
On Mon, 14 Aug 2000 19:33:27 +0100, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: ACM Hmmm. The selective download feature in the sorting office filters ACM seems to be able to do this. A filter could be setup and the ACM advanced option to 'ignore' the messages matching the filter ACM string used. MDP Don't the

Re: How to make the bat work like newsreader?

2000-08-14 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello starc, On Fri, 30 Jun 2000 at 08:00:53 [GMT -0300], you wrote: s well, after I suggested that we make a newsgroup, some answered s that the bat already offers all functionality a newsreader would s give us. It offers similar functionality, but it's *not* a newsreader, wasn't designed

Re: How to make the bat work like newsreader?

2000-08-14 Thread Iain Brown
Hello Leif, Monday, August 14, 2000, you wrote: LG It offers similar functionality, but it's *not* a newsreader, wasn't LG designed as a newsreader, and you're only going to be able to simulate LG one using the different functions of TB. V2 of TB might include LG functionality for a newsreader

Re: Newsreader

2000-05-13 Thread Jast
Morning John, But a serious news reader needs much better navigation than The Bat! currently offers, Could you elaborate a little on this too? I've found TB's navigation to be pretty fast and efficient, and except for the key-combos in no way worse than Xnews or Gravity. and also needs

Re: Newsreader

2000-05-13 Thread Allie Martin
On Sat, 13 May 2000 11:01:29 +0200, Jast wrote: Well, the typical Shift+Ctrl+LeftAlt+RightAlt+Plus+Minus+Capslock+Esc+F12+Down-type-Combinations is something I've gotten used to... You basically use only TB! with no other apps to keep reminding you of what ease of navigation is like? :-)

Re: Newsreader

2000-05-13 Thread John De Hoog
Tom Plunket [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TB! is NOT ready to be a newsreader. Too many things still missing from it to be called a great mailer. I think it's tantalizingly close to being a great mailer, but I don't really see what advantages its approach offers to news reading. In other words

Re: Newsreader

2000-05-13 Thread Jast
Morning Allie Martin, You basically use only TB! with no other apps to keep reminding you of what ease of navigation is like? :-) Got me! Only this way can I endure the fingertwisting qualities of my cave-dwelling friend. Actually, I do use Xnews occasionally, and like some of it's usage

Re: Newsreader

2000-05-13 Thread Jast
Morning John De Hoog, "Except for the key-combos" is an understatement. ;-) Well, the typical Shift+Ctrl+LeftAlt+RightAlt+Plus+Minus+Capslock+Esc+F12+Down-type-Combinations is something I've gotten used to... Of course it would be quicker to use if we had single-key bindings. Really

Re: Newsreader

2000-05-13 Thread John De Hoog
Greeting, Jast, Jast [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But a serious news reader needs much better navigation than The Bat! currently offers, Could you elaborate a little on this too? I've found TB's navigation to be pretty fast and efficient, and except for the key-combos in no way worse than

Newsreader

2000-05-12 Thread Tom Plunket
ling a bit delusional now when I "recall" hearing that it would be a plugin if it were at all? TB! is NOT ready to be a newsreader. Too many things still missing from it to be called a great mailer. -tom! -- Still waiting for Age

Re: OT: Computer Philosophy (was: Re[2]: THE BAT! Will it be a newsreader option ?)

1999-11-03 Thread Alexander V. Kiselev
Hi there! On 2 Nov 99, at 0:59, Christopher J. Trybowski wrote about "Re: OT: Computer Philosophy (was: R": Before the crash he had 1 primary and 1 extended partition, 2 logicals on the latter. After the crash, he had only *one* (primary) partition. The rest of the partitions

Re[2]: OT: Computer Philosophy (was: Re[2]: THE BAT! Will it be a newsreader option ?)

1999-11-03 Thread tracer
Wednesday, November 03, 1999 Hello Alexander, Wednesday, Wednesday, November 03, 1999, you wrote: Alexander Hi there! Alexander On 2 Nov 99, at 0:59, Christopher J. Trybowski wrote Alexander about "Re: OT: Computer Philosophy (was: R": Before the crash he had 1 primary and 1

Re: OT: Computer Philosophy (was: Re[2]: THE BAT! Will it be a newsreader option ?)

1999-11-03 Thread Steve Lamb
Monday, November 01, 1999, 11:28:35 AM, Ali wrote: Many OSS programmers chimed in at that point to say that they get paid to develop OSS. That's the funding I'm speaking about. If this type of funding doesn't in anyway apply to GNOME and KDE development, then I stand corrected. The

Re: OT: Computer Philosophy (was: Re[2]: THE BAT! Will it be a newsreader option ?)

1999-11-03 Thread Steve Lamb
Wednesday, November 03, 1999, 9:06:50 AM, Kevin wrote: They chose to use it, didn't they? I honestly don't know very many people who have a choice of what OS they use in their jobs. I honestly don't know of very many IT managers that don't have a choice. It is still a (l)user's

Re[3]: OT: Computer Philosophy (was: Re[2]: THE BAT! Will it be a newsreader option ?)

1999-11-03 Thread Kevin Boylan
Hi, Exactly. It's windows. It's therefore not the users fault when that frustrating crash occurs. :) They chose to use it, didn't they? I honestly don't know very many people who have a choice of what OS they use in their jobs. OK, so 99.9% of the people don't have a choice. And yes

Re: OT: Computer Philosophy (was: Re[2]: THE BAT! Will it be a newsreader option ?)

1999-11-03 Thread Steve Lamb
Wednesday, November 03, 1999, 9:33:41 AM, Kevin wrote: OK, so 99.9% of the people don't have a choice. Isn't that a little high given the amount of home PCs and number of businesses that do allow users to chose? And yes it does become a problem FOR them. But I think the point was that it

Re[2]: OT: Computer Philosophy (was: Re[2]: THE BAT! Will it be a newsreader option ?)

1999-11-03 Thread Kevin Boylan
Hi, Wednesday, November 03, 1999, 9:33:41 AM, Kevin wrote: OK, so 99.9% of the people don't have a choice. Isn't that a little high given the amount of home PCs and number of businesses that do allow users to chose? No, I don't think so. In businesses not very many allow you to chose

Re: OT: Computer Philosophy (was: Re[2]: THE BAT! Will it be a newsreader option ?)

1999-11-03 Thread Steve Lamb
Wednesday, November 03, 1999, 12:11:59 PM, Kevin wrote: Actually, it would be better to have a variety. Makes viruses kind of hard to propagate, doesn't it? Probably, but I wouldn't make my choice of OS at home based on that. :-) No, but it is about as valid a reason as any other.

Re[2]: OT: Computer Philosophy (was: Re[2]: THE BAT! Will it be a newsreader option ?)

1999-11-03 Thread Kevin Boylan
Hi, Probably, but I wouldn't make my choice of OS at home based on that. :-) No, but it is about as valid a reason as any other. IE... not all that valid. No, not as valid a reason as "I don't want to work in two different word processors, I want to be able to transfer stuff from work to

Re: OT: Computer Philosophy (was: Re[2]: THE BAT! Will it be a newsreader option ?)

1999-11-03 Thread Steve Lamb
Wednesday, November 03, 1999, 3:52:51 PM, Kevin wrote: No, not as valid a reason as "I don't want to work in two different word processors, I want to be able to transfer stuff from work to home", etc. So it's not as valid a reason as any others. Those are no more valid at all when you

Re: OT: Computer Philosophy (was: Re[2]: THE BAT! Will it be a newsreader option ?)

1999-11-02 Thread Christopher J. Trybowski
On Monday, November 01, 1999 Alexander V. Kiselev wrote: Before the crash he had 1 primary and 1 extended partition, 2 logicals on the latter. After the crash, he had only *one* (primary) partition. The rest of the partitions just perished. The data lost. On the primary partition

Re[2]: THE BAT! Will it be a newsreader option ?

1999-11-02 Thread Christophe Gerbier
Hello, On jeudi 28 octobre 1999, someone (you) said : SL Love that prediction. You know, there are a slew of people who don't want SL to use the mouse for many operations you would claim they would not want to SL use the keyboard for. I'm sorry, I'd rather type out many commands than say

Re[3]: OT: Computer Philosophy (was: Re[2]: THE BAT! Will it be a newsreader option ?)

1999-11-02 Thread tracer
Wednesday, November 03, 1999 Hello Kevin, Tuesday, Tuesday, November 02, 1999, you wrote: Kevin Hi, Sunday, October 31, 1999, 10:09:38 AM, Paula wrote: a computer with a problem, which wants to waste my time trying to interpret its pouting silence or irritatingly cryptic outbursts. Rather

Re[4]: OT: Computer Philosophy (was: Re[2]: THE BAT! Will it be a newsreader option ?)

1999-11-02 Thread Watcher (aka Bill DeVos)
On Wed, 3 Nov 1999 01:55:56 +0700 tracer [EMAIL PROTECTED] expounded: Wednesday, November 03, 1999 Hello Kevin, Tuesday, Tuesday, November 02, 1999, you wrote: Kevin Hi, Sunday, October 31, 1999, 10:09:38 AM, Paula wrote: a computer with a problem, which wants to waste my time

Re: OT: Computer Philosophy (was: Re[2]: THE BAT! Will it be a newsreader option ?)

1999-11-01 Thread Alexander V. Kiselev
Hi there! On 31 Oct 99, at 13:35, Thomas Fernandez wrote about "Re[3]: OT: Computer Philosophy (was": MDP Completely and utterly true. It *is* a just small percentage of the MDP millions of computer owners and users that have actually put any MDP effort or time into training,

Re: OT: Computer Philosophy (was: Re[2]: THE BAT! Will it be a newsreader option ?)

1999-11-01 Thread Steve Lamb
Saturday, October 30, 1999, 9:35:22 PM, Thomas wrote: A niche market is still a market, but I agree with you in principle. A niche market, when the target isn't the lowest common denominator, does not much resemble the "bad" influences the general market exudes on products. I'm thinking

Re: OT: Computer Philosophy (was: Re[2]: THE BAT! Will it be a newsreader option ?)

1999-11-01 Thread Steve Lamb
Sunday, October 31, 1999, 10:09:38 AM, Paula wrote: a computer with a problem, which wants to waste my time trying to interpret its pouting silence or irritatingly cryptic outbursts. Rather like men. Rather like women, actually. Most of the men I know will state flat out what the problem

Re: OT: Computer Philosophy (was: Re[2]: THE BAT! Will it be a newsreader option ?)

1999-11-01 Thread Ali Martin
Hi all, On Monday, November 01, 1999, 12:12:57 PM (-5 GMT), Steve scribbled: The Desktop environments KDE and Gnome are significantly driven by this open market. This is where most of the funding is coming from isn't it? What funding? Both projects were started and are heavily

Re[2]: OT: Computer Philosophy (was: Re[2]: THE BAT! Will it be a newsreader option ?)

1999-11-01 Thread Kevin Boylan
Hi, Sunday, October 31, 1999, 10:09:38 AM, Paula wrote: a computer with a problem, which wants to waste my time trying to interpret its pouting silence or irritatingly cryptic outbursts. Rather like men. Rather like women, actually. Most of the men I know will state flat out what the

Re: OT: Computer Philosophy (was: Re[2]: THE BAT! Will it be a newsreader option ?)

1999-10-31 Thread Paula Ford
On Saturday, October 30, 1999, 3:51:35 PM (GMT+0800), Steve Lamb wrote: SL Computers are *NOT* complicated. Women, now that is a complicated piece SL of equipment! Oh, puhleeze. Women are not equipment and I'd much rather deal with a woman with a problem, who only wants me to listen and

Re[2]: OT: Computer Philosophy (was: Re[2]: THE BAT! Will it be a newsreader option ?)

1999-10-31 Thread tracer
Monday, November 01, 1999 Hello Paula, Monday, Monday, November 01, 1999, you wrote: On Saturday, October 30, 1999, 3:51:35 PM (GMT+0800), Steve Lamb wrote: SL Computers are *NOT* complicated. Women, now that is a complicated piece SL of equipment! Paula Oh, puhleeze. Women are not

Re: OT: Computer Philosophy (was: Re[2]: THE BAT! Will it be a newsreader option ?)

1999-10-30 Thread Steve Lamb
Friday, October 29, 1999, 1:37:24 AM, Thomas wrote: They have to breath, wehtehr they want to or not. They don't have to use comptuers - "we" want them to. For commercial, political, or other reasons. The bone won't walk to the dog. (German saying, meaning if you want to sell something, you

Re: OT: Computer Philosophy (was: Re[2]: THE BAT! Will it be a newsreader option ?)

1999-10-30 Thread Ali Martin
Hi all, On Saturday, October 30, 1999, 2:51:35 AM (-5 GMT), Steve scribbled: That's just it, we don't have to go to the market, either. There is enough of a "market" out there to go for a niche, not the general market. In the goo-goo eyed craze to get the large numbers one misses the

Re[3]: OT: Computer Philosophy (was: Re[2]: THE BAT! Will it be a newsreader option ?)

1999-10-30 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hallo Marck, On Saturday, October 30, 1999, 7:22:24 PM (GMT+0800), Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: Well, the OS is software in my vocabulary, so you are actually saying you agree with me? :- SL No, OS does not equal software. The same software on 6 different SL OSs could yield 6

OT: Computer Philosophy (was: Re[2]: THE BAT! Will it be a newsreader option ?)

1999-10-29 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hi Steve, on Friday, October 29, 1999, 12:04:47 AM GMT+0800, Steve Lamb wrote: Why? Even if this was meant to offend computers (which it wasn't), why do you take it personally? SL Because it is an attack on those who don't find computers in that manner. I don't feel it that way. Hmm.

Re[2]: THE BAT! Will it be a newsreader option ?

1999-10-28 Thread tracer
Thursday, October 28, 1999 Hello Paula, Thursday, Thursday, October 28, 1999, you wrote: (snip) Paula A democratic nation that ignores the fact that the majority of its Paula citizens are not voting at all will be in trouble eventually; a business Paula even more so. If the vocal minority is

Re: THE BAT! Will it be a newsreader option ?

1999-10-28 Thread Steve Lamb
Wednesday, October 27, 1999, 7:30:11 PM, Thomas wrote: Why? Even if this was meant to offend computers (which it wasn't), why do you take it personally? Because it is an attack on those who don't find computers in that manner. SL difficult to use, I disagree - they are, for the general

Re: THE BAT! Will it be a newsreader option ?

1999-10-28 Thread Nick Danger
In Reference to "THE BAT! Will it be a newsreader option ?" From Steve Lamb: SL Computers are one of the most complex, if not the most complex machine in SL use by the general population. It is complex because it is designed, from the SL onset, to be general. We have a machin

Re: THE BAT! Will it be a newsreader option ?

1999-10-27 Thread Monbebe Admin
Hello Leif, Saturday, October 23, 1999, 6:07:32 AM, you wrote: Yes Outlook and Communicator package all that stuff together, but they are both bloated pigs of software that don't do their jobs very well. We have used Communicator since 4.5 version and Netscape 3.0 before for mail and it was

Re: THE BAT! Will it be a newsreader option ?

1999-10-27 Thread Paula Ford
On Monday, October 25, 1999, Leif Gregory wrote: PF I think that the list members as a whole are probably not very PF representative of the general user community and those who post PF even less so... I agree completely, but I'm of the strong conviction that to have a voice, you must vote...

Re: THE BAT! Will it be a newsreader option ?

1999-10-27 Thread Steve Lamb
Wednesday, October 27, 1999, 5:25:16 PM, Paula wrote: Computers will become a more and more integral part of our lives, but they will look and behave nothing like these primitive, difficult to use, unreliable, frustrating tools we use now - and it won't be that long - but in the meantime,

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