Re: vCard test

2001-12-28 Thread Dierk Haasis

Hello Roelof!

On 27 Dec 2001 at 20:05:51 you wrote:

 Don't know, different wab-version, maybe?

On my brothers side it should be quite recent; he has a clean
install of 98SE and Office2K. The other machines I know of, crashing
totally, were 95, 95b, 98, 98SE.

 What happens when you create a vCard without a picture?

That worked alright with the other machines. I will just send a vCard
to my brother and tell you over the weekend. I am quite sure
everything will be alright.


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Maintaining off-line mail archives (on CDROM)

2001-12-28 Thread F.J. de Bruin



Dear group,

I am new to the Bat!. A nonstaining user of Pegasus, I am now trying
to work whether it is time to move to a new client. Started with the
Bat! and I like what I have seen so far. As can be expected, things
work differently and there are some questions popping up. The first
has to do with keeping an archive of one's e-mail.

Pegasus has the option to 'connect to remote mailboxes'. It can be
used to create off-line archives of mailboxes. I can put complete
folders (like inbox-2000 and outbox-2000) onto a CDROM and remove them
from my Addis. Whenever I have a need to access them, I would just
hook them into the Pegasus folder tree.

Is there anything like that in the Bat! that allows me to keep e-mail
on CDROM and have it still accessible? I know about the backup/restore
function, but that seems to be tailored more towards backup than towards
archiving.


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Re: Anti-virus plugins

2001-12-28 Thread Sam


Norton AV2002 seems to work with the_Bat.  I know it checks the
outgoing mail and supposedly checks the incoming mail.  I probably
have had warnings on the incoming mail, but the_Bat seems more or less
immune to viruses so AV2002 is not triggered unless I was to try and
open an attachment, which is don't.

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 What Anti-virus software works with the AV section of The Bat? ie what
 can I use? I've been using AVX pro (Dow BitDefender) here and can't see
 how I would use it to check my incoming emails.




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Re[2]: Anti-virus plugins

2001-12-28 Thread Dave Nadeau


S Norton AV2002 seems to work with the_Bat.  I know it checks the
S outgoing mail and supposedly checks the incoming mail.

 What Anti-virus software works with the AV section of The Bat? ie what
 can I use? I've been using AVX pro (Dow BitDefender) here and can't see
 how I would use it to check my incoming emails.

  Norton  Antivirus  works  very  well  with The Bat!  Be sure to
  enable the manual mail configuration, and for each mail account
  (assuming  that  it's a POP account), use pop3.norton.antivirus
  instead of the POP mail address.  Use that one in your username
  line:   username/pop.mail   The  SMTP  address  will remain
  unaffected.   The  online help will have more detail, just make
  sure to look under manual mail configuration.

  I   have   my  NAV  setup  to  automatically  delete  infected
  attachments.   All  I see in the left hand frame is a file icon
  with  some  Norton  Virus  Detected  message.   I  got  another
  Badtrans  sent  to  me  yesterday,  and  Norton  and The Bat!
  handled it wonderfully.

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Re: Anti-virus plugins

2001-12-28 Thread Silviu Cojocaru

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PA What Anti-virus software works with the AV section of The Bat? ie what
PA can I use? I've been using AVX pro (Dow BitDefender) here and can't see
PA how I would use it to check my incoming emails.

Doesn't BitDefender have an option to scan mails ?

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Re: Anti-virus plugins

2001-12-28 Thread Sam


Actually, NAV2002 does not need to be set up manually.  Someone
previously mentioned setting up NAV2001 manually.  I had tried that
some time ago, and didn't think it worked.  Someone again mentioned it
later and I tried it again and I still could not get it to work with
the_Bat.  Seems like NAV2001 would not start because of an error.
Probably a case of me not having it set up right, but I had followed
what directions were available.

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   enable the manual mail configuration, and for each mail account
   (assuming  that  it's a POP account), use pop3.norton.antivirus
   instead of the POP mail address.  Use that one in your username
   line:   username/pop.mail   The  SMTP  address  will remain
   unaffected.   The  online help will have more detail, just make
   sure to look under manual mail configuration.




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String not found

2001-12-28 Thread Rick Sovitzky

Hi,

  I set up a rule to find those *@#$ Read this to the end junk.  I put
  in the String 'TO THE END' without quotes.  Then delete that one.
  One just came into my inbox.  What's wrong?

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Re:Anti-virus plugins

2001-12-28 Thread Geoff Lane

Friday, December 28, 2001, 1:56:37 PM, Sam wrote:


 Actually, NAV2002 does not need to be set up manually.  Someone
 previously mentioned setting up NAV2001 manually.  I had tried that
 some time ago, and didn't think it worked.  Someone again mentioned it
 later and I tried it again and I still could not get it to work with
 the_Bat.  Seems like NAV2001 would not start because of an error.
 Probably a case of me not having it set up right, but I had followed
 what directions were available.

FWIW, I've written some instructions for setting up NAV2001 with TB.
You can view them at http://www.gjctechnical.com/misc/batnav.html

That domain is fairly new so, if your DNS servers haven't got hold of
it yet, http://www.gjctech.co.uk/misc/batnav.html is an alternative
URL to the same page.

I've used this method to set up NAV2001 with TB on several machines,
so I'm at a loss on why you could not get it working.

BTW, what's different about NAV2002 that it does not need manual
configuration? Has TB been added to the list of mail clients that it
recognises?

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Re: String not found

2001-12-28 Thread Roelof Otten

Hello Rick,

On Fri, 28 Dec 2001 08:11:42 -0600GMT (28-12-01, 15:11 +0100GMT, where
I live), you wrote:

RS   I set up a rule to find those *@#$ Read this to the end junk.  I put
RS   in the String 'TO THE END' without quotes.  Then delete that one.
RS   One just came into my inbox.  What's wrong?

What's the location you used in your filter and in what location did
the message state it?
I don't know whether filter strings are case sensitive.

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Re: Anti-virus plugins

2001-12-28 Thread Don Taylor

 What Anti-virus software works with the AV section of The Bat? ie what
 can I use? I've been using AVX pro (Dow BitDefender) here and can't see
 how I would use it to check my incoming emails.

I've been using AVG (www.grisoft.com) for several months now, and I
like it very much. So far, though, they don't tie into The Bat! for
incoming/outgoing mail. If anyone else on this list is using AVG,
please join with me in nagging grisoft to tie into The Bat! as they
have with OE (yuk!).

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Re[2]: Anti-virus plugins

2001-12-28 Thread Luc

It  was foretold that on 28/12/2001 @ 08:12:10 GMT-0800 (which was 17:12 where I
live) Don Taylor wrote and spread these wise comments on Anti-virus plugins:

 I've been using AVG (www.grisoft.com) for several months now, and I
 like it very much. So far, though, they don't tie into The Bat! for
 incoming/outgoing mail. If anyone else on this list is using AVG,
 please join with me in nagging grisoft to tie into The Bat! as they
 have with OE (yuk!).

I'm your man !! using AVG too and hoping they will tie it into The Bat!
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Re: Anti-virus plugins

2001-12-28 Thread Sam


Hi Geoff,

NAV2002 seems to bear little resemblance to NAV2001.  It no longer has
an are which tells you what e-mail clients are detected and protected.
Upon installation, The_Bat is detected and will scan the sent e-mail
as well as the received e-mail.  It still has the Live Update features
but the rest has changed.

I printed off your directions for using The_Bat and NAV2001 and I'll
re-check the setup, but it seems to be what I originally tried.  If
there is one point I might have missed it would be putting my user
name in front of my mail server, although I think I did.

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 BTW, what's different about NAV2002 that it does not need manual
 configuration? Has TB been added to the list of mail clients that it
 recognises?

 HTH,




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Re[3]: Anti-virus plugins

2001-12-28 Thread John Rainer

Friday, December 28, 2001, 1:36:47 PM, you wrote:


DN   Norton  Antivirus  works  very  well  with The Bat!  Be sure to
DN   enable the manual mail configuration, and for each mail account
DN   (assuming  that  it's a POP account), use pop3.norton.antivirus
DN   instead of the POP mail address.  Use that one in your username
DN   line:   username/pop.mail   The  SMTP  address  will remain
DN   unaffected.   The  online help will have more detail, just make
DN   sure to look under manual mail configuration.

DN   I   have   my  NAV  setup  to  automatically  delete  infected
DN   attachments.   All  I see in the left hand frame is a file icon
DN   with  some  Norton  Virus  Detected  message.   I  got  another
DN   Badtrans  sent  to  me  yesterday,  and  Norton  and The Bat!
DN   handled it wonderfully.

Dave,

Which version are you using? - I've gone to 2002 because I'm now using
XP and the autodelete function seems not to be present in 2002 -
worked fine in 2000 and 2001 though.

The email scanner in 2002 works in a very different way to earlier
versions and needs no email client configuration. The only automatic
function seems to be autorepair, which pops up a dialog on every
infected mail (infuriating) as it can't repair it, plus it picks up
the tmp file created by the bat, presumably because the mail is
intercepted in a different way from 2000/2001. To make things worse,
what's left of any infected mail has most of its headers removed. I've
heard that 2001 can be got to work in XP, so I might give it a try -
that worked fine in Windows 2000.

Advice from Symantec on their forums seems to be along the lines of
disabling the email scanner, as it is only a supplementary function,
and relying instead on the resident scanner. Seems to ignore the point
of why some users want to use email scanning but there you go.

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Re: vCard test

2001-12-28 Thread Dierk Haasis

Hello Dierk!

On 28 Dec 2001 at 10:05:26 you wrote:

 That worked alright with the other machines. I will just send a vCard
 to my brother and tell you over the weekend. I am quite sure
 everything will be alright.

As expected the vCard without pic was shown and imported without
difficulty.



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Re[4]: Anti-virus plugins

2001-12-28 Thread Dave Nadeau

Hi John,

JR Which version are you using? - I've gone to 2002 because I'm now using
JR XP and the autodelete function seems not to be present in 2002 -
JR worked fine in 2000 and 2001 though.

I've got about 1 1/2 months left on my NAV2001.  I didn't realize
that the 2002 version was so different.  The manual configuration
and autodelete are a snap with NAV2001.   I'm on Win2K Pro SP2.

I guess I'll see what NAV2002 looks like in about 45 days
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Re[2]: Message Viewer Window

2001-12-28 Thread Alan Poulton

Thursday, December 27, 2001, 1:30:40 PM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

 Now, I thought this behaviour had changed with the new viewer logic in the
 1.54 beta series. The behaviour you are lamenting is the way I thought it
 always used to work. In short, I can't help other than to say that I don't
 think you're dreaming..

Actually, I think I figured it out. It used to be, in 1.53bis, that when
viewing an HTML message, the file attachment pane would not show. But then I
recently upgraded to 1.53d and now the file attachment pane is there when
viewing an HTML message.. I wish it wouldn't. I liked having the full width to
view the HTML message better. I know, I know.. I could always just click
View/Attached Files/Hide when viewing.. but that's a pain.  heheh.

So tell me.. in the 1.54 beta series, does the Attachment pane show up when
viewing the 'message.html' ?

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template adressbook

2001-12-28 Thread Luc

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Hi list,

 I'm  new  to The Bat! and just figuring everything out. I have set my templates
 and  they do what they are supposed to do (with a little help from this lol). I
curious   though   about  templates  and  individual mail addresses: if i want to
use  the  same  templates to new contacts i add, do i have to manually copy and
paste the templates (message, reply,) or do i have to create a group,
In  short:  if  i  add a new contact to my adressbook (outside a group) how do i
apply  the  templates  i already use, supposing there is another way then copy 
paste.

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Re: template adressbook

2001-12-28 Thread Januk Aggarwal

Hello Luc,

It was foretold that on Friday, December 28, 2001 at 18:46 GMT +0100,
Luc [L] would type:

L In  short:  if  i  add a new contact to my adressbook (outside a group) how do i
L apply  the  templates  i already use, supposing there is another way then copy 
L paste.

If you want to have a special template for your friends, but it is the
same template for all friends, you have a couple of options.  One is
that you create a group and add your friends to that group.  Then you
can define a group template and all contacts in that group will use
the specialized template.

If you would prefer to avoid group templates, you should create your
templates in Quick Templates.  Then the person's individual template
would just have one line: %QINCLUDE=QT Handle
(Note: You need to replace QT Handle with the relevant quick
template name.)

The advantage of either of these methods is that you only need to
change one set of templates and you'll affect all your contacts.  The
group method has the advantage that adding new contacts is a couple of
steps simpler than the second method.  However, if you have contacts
in multiple groups and more than one of those groups has a group
template, the second method will result in fewer problems.

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Re: Message Viewer Window

2001-12-28 Thread Dierk Haasis

Hello Alan!

On 28 Dec 2001 at 18:35:18 you wrote:

 So tell me.. in the 1.54 beta series, does the Attachment pane show up when
 viewing the 'message.html' ?

Luckily, yes. But, shouldn't View/Attachments/Hide hide them always?



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Re: Message Viewer Window

2001-12-28 Thread Januk Aggarwal

Hello Dierk,

Historians believe that Friday, December 28, 2001 at 19:04 GMT +0100
was when, Dierk Haasis [DH] typed the following:

DH Luckily, yes. But, shouldn't View/Attachments/Hide hide them always?

Maybe that's true for attached pictures and things, but message.html
isn't treated as an attachment by TB in the message list.  So why
should it be treated the same as any other attachment in the HTML
viewer? 

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Re[2]: Message Viewer Window

2001-12-28 Thread Alan Poulton

Friday, December 28, 2001, 10:04:15 AM, Dierk Haasis wrote:

 So tell me.. in the 1.54 beta series, does the Attachment pane show up when
 viewing the 'message.html' ?

 Luckily, yes. But, shouldn't View/Attachments/Hide hide them always?

Hmm.. that's too bad. I really liked it the way it was in 1.53bis and earlier.
When viewing message.html (in the HTML viewer in TB), the only way to see the
attachment pane was to click on the '1' tab on the bottom to see the Text
Message.

View/Attachments/Hide does hide them always. Yes. So it's not a viable
solution to viewing the html message in full screen width.

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Re: Anti-virus plugins

2001-12-28 Thread Peter Meyns

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On Fri, 28 Dec 2001 07:10:41 -0600GMT (which was 14:10 +0100GMT where I live),
Sam thought about Anti-virus plugins and wrote:

S I probably have had warnings on the incoming mail, but the_Bat seems
S more or less immune to viruses so AV2002 is not triggered unless I was
S to try and open an attachment, which is don't.

Hi Sam,

you are right. The Bat! will give you a real hard time before you can open
an email-virus! Thumbs up! ;o)

Still you will need your AV for other possible ways of infections...

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Re: Anti-virus plugins

2001-12-28 Thread Sam


John, your observations of NAV2002 seem to be exactly the same as my
observations.  I think the autodelete function is not there, at least
I have not seen the option.  Like you, the autorepair does not seem to
work.

I'd be interested to know whether or not you are successful in using
NAV2001 with WinXP.  I did try it, but got the not compatible
warnings.  Symantec has some information on using it, but was very
hard to find on their web site, and seemed very sketchy.  I never
could make it work and from what others say, they couldn't either.


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 Which version are you using? - I've gone to 2002 because I'm now using
 XP and the autodelete function seems not to be present in 2002 -
 worked fine in 2000 and 2001 though.

 The email scanner in 2002 works in a very different way to earlier
 versions and needs no email client configuration. The only automatic
 function seems to be autorepair, which pops up a dialog on every
 infected mail (infuriating) as it can't repair it, plus it picks up
 the tmp file created by the bat, presumably because the mail is
 intercepted in a different way from 2000/2001. To make things worse,
 what's left of any infected mail has most of its headers removed. I've
 heard that 2001 can be got to work in XP, so I might give it a try -
 that worked fine in Windows 2000.

 Advice from Symantec on their forums seems to be along the lines of
 disabling the email scanner, as it is only a supplementary function,
 and relying instead on the resident scanner. Seems to ignore the point
 of why some users want to use email scanning but there you go.

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Re: Anti-virus plugins

2001-12-28 Thread Sam


Hi Peter,

You are correct.  The_Bat does a good job on viruses, which seem to be
extremely abundant these days.  I have yet to get infected, thanks to
stance the_Bat takes.  The virus scan program is very important, maybe
not for the_Bat, but for Outlook Express and Outlook, both of which
are on this computer even though they are only uses sparingly.  I use
OE for HTML mail, but might try using Word and attaching it to
the_Bat.  Only bad part is that most of my correspondents will not
open attachments either.  LOL


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 you are right. The Bat! will give you a real hard time before you can open
 an email-virus! Thumbs up! ;o)

 Still you will need your AV for other possible ways of infections...

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Re: template adressbook

2001-12-28 Thread Dierk Haasis

Hello Luc!

On 28 Dec 2001 at 18:46:43 you wrote:

 In  short:  if  i  add a new contact to my adressbook (outside a group) how do i
 apply  the  templates  i already use, supposing there is another way then copy 
 paste.

Account templates will be used automatically as will folder templates.
If you want group or individual templates for them, you have to either
put your contacts into a group or copy/paste templates into the
templates area of the AB entry.

To ease things up, you can use Quick Templates. In these you define
templates and have then only to insert these
(%QINCLUDE=TemplateName). I have 10 default QT's for different
purposes (private and business) which are used this way.

Another advantage of this approach: You can invoke the QT's manually
in any message you create (type in the QT name and hit
Ctrl+Space).

As to how to individualise templates you surely know already.




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Re: Sophos AV

2001-12-28 Thread Konstantin Volenbovsky

Hi,all and especially Marc.


When it was  Wed, 26 Dec 2001, and your watches showed 
 22:02:58 [GMT +0100]and
time in Kiev, Ukraine was  23:02:58[GMT +02.00]
--- you wrote:

MvB Hi,

MvB Short question: does TB support Sophos Antivirus?
Short answer: AFAIK, no. All questions, connected with betas - to
tbbeta.



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Re: Mouse Scrolling Button

2001-12-28 Thread Konstantin Volenbovsky

Hi,all and especially Raj.


When it was  Fri, 28 Dec 2001, and your watches showed 
 09:14:58 [GMT +0530]and
time in Kiev, Ukraine was  5:44:58[GMT +02.00]
--- you wrote:
R I just have this new problem with the scrolling mouse button.
R Any tips ideas ???
1) You are using beta, so to TBBETA. BTW, 10e is rather old beta so
you should upgrade to beta 17 or downgrade. Your bug was solved, as
far as I remember, in beta 11.
Note: There might be problems with downgrading: AFAIK the format of
S/Mime certificates and quick templates was changed.

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Re: Anti-virus plugins

2001-12-28 Thread Peter Meyns

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S I have yet to get infected, thanks to stance the_Bat takes. The virus
S scan program is very important, maybe not for the_Bat, but for Outlook
S Express and Outlook, both of which are on this computer even though they
S are only uses sparingly.

Sure, Sam, sparingly might be enough! ;-)

S I use OE for HTML mail, but might try using Word and attaching it to
S the_Bat. Only bad part is that most of my correspondents will not open
S attachments either. LOL

For what in the world do you need HTML in emails? Ok, sending mom an x-mas
card. Right. I'd use OE for that too. ;o)

Have a good time! :-)

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Re: re: string not found

2001-12-28 Thread Rick Sovitzky

Hi ,

I do not know what you mean by location. Unless you mean subject,
text, etc.  Set to text.

RS   I set up a rule to find those *@#$ Read this to the end junk.  I put
RS   in the String 'TO THE END' without quotes.  Then delete that one.
RS   One just came into my inbox.  What's wrong?

What's the location you used in your filter and in what location did
the message state it?
I don't know whether filter strings are case sensitive.

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Re: Anti-virus plugins

2001-12-28 Thread Sam


S I have yet to get infected, thanks to stance the_Bat takes. The virus
S scan program is very important, maybe not for the_Bat, but for Outlook
S Express and Outlook, both of which are on this computer even though they
S are only uses sparingly.

 Sure, Sam, sparingly might be enough! ;-)

Can't argue here.  When I say sparingly, I do indeed mean SPARINGLY.
I have some in-laws who are gung-ho on HTML; don't think they EVER
send a plain text message.  I use it when I want to send a picture
imbedded in the message, something I don't think can be done in
the_Bat.  It can be sent as an attachment, but, like I said, many
people will not open attachments, me included unless I know what is
being sent and by whom.

S I use OE for HTML mail, but might try using Word and attaching it to
S the_Bat. Only bad part is that most of my correspondents will not open
S attachments either. LOL

 For what in the world do you need HTML in emails? Ok, sending mom an x-mas
 card. Right. I'd use OE for that too. ;o)

I don't even send Christmas or other holiday cards by HTML.  I use
Hallmark or Blue Mountain e-cards.  I use it to send pictures.  I do
feel HTML is a bane to the internet and should be stopped but that
surely will never happen.  Too many tyros on the net who go ga-ga over
that stuff.  I notice The_Bat is working on incorporating HTML  in the
next version; sure hope they don't mess up the good thing they
presently have.

 Peter

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Re[2]: Anti-virus plugins

2001-12-28 Thread John Rainer

Friday, December 28, 2001, 6:45:55 PM, you wrote:


S John, your observations of NAV2002 seem to be exactly the same as my
S observations.  I think the autodelete function is not there, at least
S I have not seen the option.  Like you, the autorepair does not seem to
S work.

S I'd be interested to know whether or not you are successful in using
S NAV2001 with WinXP.  I did try it, but got the not compatible
S warnings.  Symantec has some information on using it, but was very
S hard to find on their web site, and seemed very sketchy.  I never
S could make it work and from what others say, they couldn't either.

Sam,

I found the following info on Google - I don't know if it is reliable
or not! Put HjWi7.17602$[EMAIL PROTECTED] complete with
quotes into a Google news search.

There is also a software compatibility update for XP where Norton
Antivirus 2001 is mentioned - I've contacted Symantec about it and am
awaiting a response (cue moaning wind and tumbleweed). See
http://servicenews.symantec.com/cgi-bin/displayArticle.cgi?group=symantec.support.winnt.nortonantivirus2002.generalarticle=25317
- I did not post the original article but did follow it up.

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Re: Anti-virus plugins

2001-12-28 Thread Sam


Hi John,

Thanks, I filed the information on using NAV2001 with WinXP just in
case.

Good luck with your inquiry to Symantec.  My experience with them is
not great.  I get conflicting, and frequently incorrect information
and, like the inquiry quoted, it is the problem of the user, not
Symantec.  That seems to be a given.   Of course, this is if they even
bother to answer my inquiries.

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 I found the following info on Google - I don't know if it is reliable
 or not! Put HjWi7.17602$[EMAIL PROTECTED] complete with
 quotes into a Google news search.

 There is also a software compatibility update for XP where Norton
 Antivirus 2001 is mentioned - I've contacted Symantec about it and am
 awaiting a response (cue moaning wind and tumbleweed). See
 
http://servicenews.symantec.com/cgi-bin/displayArticle.cgi?group=symantec.support.winnt.nortonantivirus2002.generalarticle=25317
 - I did not post the original article but did follow it up.

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Template reply for a specific user

2001-12-28 Thread Costas Papadopoulos

I'm happy to say that I've just become a proud registered user of The
Bat and I love it.
Perhaps predictably so, I may have a few questions at first and I hope
some of the folks here may be able to help.

I'm trying to create a template that I wish to use for replies to a
specific user with whom I frequently exchange emails. I haven't been
able to make this feature work. I put the template in the recipient's
entry in the address book under the Reply tab and checked the box to
use a specific template for replies.

How do I activate this template? If I select the received message and
try and reply to it, I get the standard account reply template, not the
specific template that I want.

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Re: string not found

2001-12-28 Thread Roelof Otten

Hello Rick,

On Fri, 28 Dec 2001 13:52:22 -0600GMT (28-12-01, 20:52 +0100GMT, where
I live), you wrote:

RS I do not know what you mean by location. Unless you mean subject,
RS text, etc.  Set to text.

Yep, that's what I meant.

You're looking for 'TO THE END' in text, since the message wasn't
deleted, there are several possibilities:

1) The filter is case sensitive (I don't know)
2) The filter has an additional condition that wasn't met
3) The message didn't contain 'to the end', but had an extra space or
something between the words
4) The message had triggered another filter that didn't have the
'Continue processing with other filters' option set.
5) Probably I'm missing something. ;-)

The fourth possibility can be checked by placing the bad message in
another folder (preferably an empty one). Place your 'to the end'
filter on top of all your incoming filters.
Re-filter the folder (right mouse button, re-filter, use incoming
filters). If the message gets deleted you know another filter was
triggered in the first run too.

The first possibility can be skipped, I tested it and my filter was
triggered by both messages (both upper and lower case)
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Re[2]: Anti-virus plugins

2001-12-28 Thread Marek Mikus

Hello all,

 What Anti-virus software works with the AV section of The Bat? ie what
 can I use? I've been using AVX pro (Dow BitDefender) here and can't see
 how I would use it to check my incoming emails.

DT I've been using AVG (www.grisoft.com) for several months now, and I
DT like it very much. So far, though, they don't tie into The Bat! for
DT incoming/outgoing mail. If anyone else on this list is using AVG,
DT please join with me in nagging grisoft to tie into The Bat! as they
DT have with OE (yuk!).

Grisoft working on POP/SMTP proxy and should be released soon.

I contacted them (they are in my town) and received their API, so I
sent it to Stefan for creating plugin. If will be possible to support
it, it will be.

BTW Grisoft use The Bat! as their mailer :-)

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Re: Template reply for a specific user

2001-12-28 Thread Roelof Otten

Hello Costas,

On Fri, 28 Dec 2001 23:03:58 +0200GMT (28-12-01, 22:03 +0100GMT, where
I live), you wrote:

CP I'm trying to create a template that I wish to use for replies to a
CP specific user with whom I frequently exchange emails. I haven't been
CP able to make this feature work. I put the template in the recipient's
CP entry in the address book under the Reply tab and checked the box to
CP use a specific template for replies.

I did the same as what you're describing, with the address entry of my
brother and that works.

CP How do I activate this template? If I select the received message and
CP try and reply to it, I get the standard account reply template, not the
CP specific template that I want.

Your friend might have several e-mail addresses and the one you're
replying to isn't in your address book. This is the reason you can
enter multiple e-mail addresses for one person.

Other possibility is that you mistyped the address of your friend and
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Re[2]: Template reply for a specific user

2001-12-28 Thread Costas Papadopoulos

Hello Roelof,

Friday, December 28, 2001, 11:37:09 PM, you wrote:

CP I'm trying to create a template that I wish to use for replies to a
CP specific user with whom I frequently exchange emails. I haven't been
CP able to make this feature work. I put the template in the recipient's
CP entry in the address book under the Reply tab and checked the box to
CP use a specific template for replies.

 I did the same as what you're describing, with the address entry of my
 brother and that works.

CP How do I activate this template? If I select the received message and
CP try and reply to it, I get the standard account reply template, not the
CP specific template that I want.

 Your friend might have several e-mail addresses and the one you're
 replying to isn't in your address book. This is the reason you can
 enter multiple e-mail addresses for one person.

 Other possibility is that you mistyped the address of your friend and
 that it isn't recognized.

I discovered that I had my friend's address in more than one Group,
and also, by accident, more than once in the same Group.
After leaving only one entry, I could get the program to work
properly. Then I eliminated the duplicate entry and the program again
appears to function correctly.
Thank you for your assistance.

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Cookies for Groups

2001-12-28 Thread Costas Papadopoulos

This is my second question of the day. I hope there is no limit
imposed on the number of questions per day!

I am regularly sending messages to a group of friends. I want to
include cookies in my messages to them, but I would prefer to have
them all receive the same r a n d o m l y selected cookie instead of
each one receing a different cookie. Is this possible?

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Re: Cookies for Groups

2001-12-28 Thread Allie C Martin

On Fri, 28 Dec 2001 23:57:34 +0200, Costas Papadopoulos [CP] wrote
these comments:
...
CP This is my second question of the day. I hope there is no limit
CP imposed on the number of questions per day!

Ask all you like, as long as you don't ask the same thing over and
over again. :-)

CP I am regularly sending messages to a group of friends. I want to
CP include cookies in my messages to them, but I would prefer to have
CP them all receive the same r a n d o m l y selected cookie instead of
CP each one receing a different cookie. Is this possible?

Oh, absolutely.

Create an address book group for your friends. Right click the address
book group icon and create templates for the group in the properties.
After doing that, if you create a message to the group, then each will
get a copy of the message created using the same template.

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thank you (was: template adressbook)

2001-12-28 Thread Luc

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One more question, please

2001-12-28 Thread Costas Papadopoulos

I looked in the Help about the possibility of adding custom headers to outgoing email,
but I couldn't find anything relevant. Is this facility possible?

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Re: One more question, please

2001-12-28 Thread Roelof Otten

Hello Costas,

On Sat, 29 Dec 2001 00:54:10 +0200GMT (28-12-01, 23:54 +0100GMT, where
I live), you wrote:

CP I looked in the Help about the possibility of adding custom
CP headers to outgoing email, but I couldn't find anything relevant.
CP Is this facility possible?

That depends on the headers you wish for. You can add comment headers
with %comment:
%Comment=This message is for Costas in a template would add:
Comment: This message is for Costas
into the header section of your message. For more info concerning
header macros check the help on the topic: Message header macros

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OT - best freeware/shareware web authoring program?

2001-12-28 Thread Joe Finocchiaro

Within the last 10-12 days or so, someone here wrote about a *great*
freeware/shareware web authoring program.

Does anyone remember it's name?

Thanks!

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Re:OT - best freeware/shareware web authoring program?

2001-12-28 Thread Geoff Lane

Saturday, December 29, 2001, 12:03:37 AM, Joe Finocchiaro wrote:

 Within the last 10-12 days or so, someone here wrote about a *great*
 freeware/shareware web authoring program.

 Does anyone remember it's name?

 Thanks!

 PS: Please feel free to write me privately.


I can't remember the post, but I can recommend First Page 2000
(http://www.evrsoft.com/) as a really good, text-based editor. That
said, you do need to know HTML to use it effectively because it is a
text editor on steroids.

Speaking of text editors, I can also recommend NoteTab (by Eric G.V.
Fookes, who also produces Mailbag Assistant). He's enhanced this so
much that he now claims it to be an HTML editor. You can download the
free and commercial versions at http://www.notetab.ch/

One of these days, I'll get around to learning Dreamweaver. That said,
I've tried a few WYSIWYG HTML editors and none so far offer the
flexibility of a good text editor and a reasonable knowledge of HTML.

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Re: template adressbook

2001-12-28 Thread Nick Andriash

Hello Luc,

On Friday, December 28 2001 at 09:46 AM PDT, you wrote:

  I'm  new  to The Bat! and just figuring everything out. I have set my templates
  and  they do what they are supposed to do (with a little help from this lol). I
 curious   though   about  templates  and  individual mail addresses: if i want to
 use  the  same  templates to new contacts i add, do i have to manually copy and

Is there _any_ way we can convince you to shorten your lines? ;o)  I
don't know what you see above, but from my standpoint it's extremely
hard to read your postings. :o(


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Re[2]: template adressbook

2001-12-28 Thread Luc

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It  was  foretold that on 29/12/2001 @ 17:38:28 GMT-0800 (which was 2:38
where  I  live)  Nick  Andriash  wrote and spread these wise comments on
template  adressbook:


 Hello Luc,

 On Friday, December 28 2001 at 09:46 AM PDT, you wrote:

  I'm  new  to The Bat! and just figuring everything out. I have set my templates
  and  they do what they are supposed to do (with a little help from this lol). I
 curious   though   about  templates  and  individual mail addresses: if i want to
 use  the  same  templates to new contacts i add, do i have to manually copy and

 Is there _any_ way we can convince you to shorten your lines? ;o)  I
 don't know what you see above, but from my standpoint it's extremely
 hard to read your postings. :o(

It  looks  just fine on my laptop, but is this any better for you? (wrap
from 80 to 72)

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Re: template adressbook

2001-12-28 Thread Allie C Martin

On Sat, 29 Dec 2001 02:58:20 +0100, Luc [L] wrote these comments:
...
L It  looks  just fine on my laptop, but is this any better for you? (wrap
L from 80 to 72)

72 is a limit that most clients will use by default. I personally
prefer no more than 74 character limits.

Although 80 characters is the acceptable limit, I always thought it
was too much, but that's just me.

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Re[2]: template adressbook

2001-12-28 Thread Luc

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It  was  foretold that on 29/12/2001 @ 21:06:42 GMT-0500 (which was 3:06
where  I  live)  Allie  C Martin wrote and spread these wise comments on
template  adressbook:

 72 is a limit that most clients will use by default. I personally
 prefer no more than 74 character limits.

 Although 80 characters is the acceptable limit, I always thought it
 was too much, but that's just me.

Oh  but  i  don't  mind  setting  it  to  72 if others find it better. I
personally don't mind _to_ much_ if the text is a bit long so one has to
use his scrollingbars. But, as you said ... that's just me ;-).
I hope this setting is better for nick

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Re: template adressbook

2001-12-28 Thread Allie C Martin

On Sat, 29 Dec 2001 03:18:23 +0100, Luc [L] graced us with these
comments:
...
L Oh  but  i  don't  mind  setting  it  to  72 if others find it better. I
L personally don't mind _to_ much_ if the text is a bit long so one has to
L use his scrollingbars. But, as you said ... that's just me ;-).
L I hope this setting is better for nick

Your signature verified as bad again when tested with TB!'s fixed
width font viewer.

 Signature made 12/28/01 20:18:21  using DSA key ID 85840713
 BAD signature from Luc Knaepkens [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The part about your where to find your public key and the tag line are
way too long again, thus breaking your signature check in TB!'s
fixed width viewer. In the RTF viewer the sig check is fine.

However, it's good netiquette to get those lines sorted out.
 
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Re[2]: template adressbook

2001-12-28 Thread Luc

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It  was  foretold that on 29/12/2001 @ 21:23:04 GMT-0500 (which was 3:23
where  I  live)  Allie  C Martin wrote and spread these wise comments on
template  adressbook:

 The part about your where to find your public key and the tag line are
 way too long again, thus breaking your signature check in TB!'s
 fixed width viewer. In the RTF viewer the sig check is fine.

Strange, nothing changed since the last time you checked :-(

Is this better now ?
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Re: template adressbook

2001-12-28 Thread Nick Andriash

Hello Luc,

On Friday, December 28 2001 at 05:58 PM PDT, you wrote:

 It  looks  just fine on my laptop, but is this any better for you? (wrap
 from 80 to 72)

Much better. Thank you. :o)


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Re[2]: template adressbook

2001-12-28 Thread Luc

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It  was  foretold that on 29/12/2001 @ 19:06:37 GMT-0800 (which was 4:06
where  I  live)  Nick  Andriash  wrote and spread these wise comments on
template  adressbook:

 Much better. Thank you. :o)

 Glad that it's me this time who can do something ;-)

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Re: template adressbook

2001-12-28 Thread Nick Andriash

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Hello Luc,

On Friday, December 28 2001 at 07:46 PM PDT, you wrote:

 *** PGP Signature Status: good
 *** Signer: Luc Knaepkens [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Invalid)
 *** Signed: 28/12/01 6:46:11 PM
 *** Verified: 28/12/01 7:47:15 PM
 *** BEGIN PGP VERIFIED MESSAGE ***

  Glad that it's me this time who can do something ;-)

Thanks again... it means reading your postings with greater ease. BTW,
your signatures in this thread anyway have all been Good on my copy of
Becky. I remember trying to verify your signatures on TB and always
having them come out Bad, and I can't remember Allie's explanation
except that it did involve the on-screen wrapping in TB's FWF Viewer. I
don't seem to have that problem here with Becky, yet I was led to
understand the viewers act the same.

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Re[2]: OT - best freeware/shareware web authoring program?

2001-12-28 Thread Joe Finocchiaro

Friday, December 28, 2001, 7:29:39 PM, you wrote:

 Saturday, December 29, 2001, 12:03:37 AM, Joe Finocchiaro wrote:

 Within the last 10-12 days or so, someone here wrote about a *great*
 freeware/shareware web authoring program.

 Does anyone remember it's name?

 Thanks!

 PS: Please feel free to write me privately.

 I can't remember the post, but I can recommend First Page 2000
 (http://www.evrsoft.com/) as a really good, text-based editor. That
 said, you do need to know HTML to use it effectively because it is a
 text editor on steroids.

Yep, that's the one.

 Speaking of text editors, I can also recommend NoteTab (by Eric G.V.
 Fookes, who also produces Mailbag Assistant). He's enhanced this so
 much that he now claims it to be an HTML editor. You can download the
 free and commercial versions at http://www.notetab.ch/

I have NoteTab Pro; it's a *great* Notepad replacement.  But I don't
know much about it's more advanced features. I mostly use it to clean
up e-mails (HTML tags, etc.) for re-posting to mail lists.

I'll have to give it a look again.

Actually, I miss my old Netscape Gold (web authoring) program.  It was about as
goof-proof as you could get, but I can't find it anywhere.

 One of these days, I'll get around to learning Dreamweaver. That said,
 I've tried a few WYSIWYG HTML editors and none so far offer the
 flexibility of a good text editor and a reasonable knowledge of HTML.

Dreamweaver is the Big Kahuna these days, I hear.

I'm more into the Little (and cheaper) Kahunas.

Considering how often I lose things, e.g. all the contents of my hard
drives, I think I'll stick to cheapos.

Thanks for the reply!

PS: I had the recent misfortune of trying out The Bat!'s backup/restore
function.  :(

Worked like a charm!

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Re[2]: template adressbook

2001-12-28 Thread Luc

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It  was  foretold that on 29/12/2001 @ 19:51:36 GMT-0800 (which was 4:51
where  I  live)  Nick  Andriash  wrote and spread these wise comments on
template  adressbook:

... BTW, your signatures in this thread anyway have all been Good on my copy of
 Becky. I remember trying to verify your signatures on TB and always
 having them come out Bad, and I can't remember Allie's explanation
 except that it did involve the on-screen wrapping in TB's FWF Viewer. I
 don't seem to have that problem here with Becky, yet I was led to
 understand the viewers act the same.

Well,  it's  strange because one of the reason i changed from outlook to
The   Bat!   was   it's   wrapping:  as  i  was  led  to  believe,  the
wrapping problems in pgp would be history with The Bat!
But  maybe  my  key  comment was way to long to handle, i have shortened
it  hopefully  this  will be the end of it  pgp that doesn't
work correctly, wrapping that causes problems: one begins to wonder why
do i even bother? :)

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Re: Maintaining off-line mail archives (on CDROM)

2001-12-28 Thread Thomas F

Hello F.J.,

On Fri, 28 Dec 2001 10:48:19 +0100 GMT (28/12/2001, 17:48 +0800 GMT),
F.J. de Bruin wrote:

FJdB Is there anything like that in the Bat! that allows me to keep e-mail
FJdB on CDROM and have it still accessible? I know about the backup/restore
FJdB function, but that seems to be tailored more towards backup than towards
FJdB archiving.

You can archive into a seperate account, which has the mail directory
set to the CD-ROM drive.

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Re: template adressbook

2001-12-28 Thread Thomas F

Hello Nick,

On Fri, 28 Dec 2001 19:51:36 -0800 GMT (29/12/2001, 11:51 +0800 GMT),
Nick Andriash wrote:

 *** PGP Signature Status: good
 *** Signer: Luc Knaepkens [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Invalid)
 *** Signed: 28/12/01 6:46:11 PM
 *** Verified: 28/12/01 7:47:15 PM
 *** BEGIN PGP VERIFIED MESSAGE ***

NA Thanks again... it means reading your postings with greater ease. BTW,
NA your signatures in this thread anyway have all been Good on my copy of
NA Becky. I remember trying to verify your signatures on TB and always
NA having them come out Bad,

TB says invalid here, but of course I don't have Luc's public key in
my keyring. TB used to go and search the keyservers in those cases,
but it didn't search. Why not? Did I miss some setting somewhere?

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Re[2]: template adressbook

2001-12-28 Thread Luc

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It  was  foretold that on 29/12/2001 @ 13:28:03 GMT+0800 (which was 6:28
where I live) Thomas F wrote and spread these wise comments on template
 adressbook:

 TB says invalid here, but of course I don't have Luc's public key in
 my keyring. TB used to go and search the keyservers in those cases,
 but it didn't search. Why not? Did I miss some setting somewhere?

Thomas,

i'm  not  that  expert  in  pgp  but i  believe it's your setting:
it worked for me so far.
Choose  options  in PGP, go to servers then synchronize with server
upon  and  enable the possibility verification.  This makes sure that
pgp will automatically search and import the public key upon verifying.

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Re: template adressbook

2001-12-28 Thread Nick Andriash

Hello Luc,

On Friday, December 28 2001 at 08:09 PM PDT, you wrote:

 Well,  it's  strange because one of the reason i changed from outlook to
 The   Bat!   was   it's   wrapping:  as  i  was  led  to  believe,  the
 wrapping problems in pgp would be history with The Bat!

They are history. With TB, you can turn PGP's wrapping off altogether,
and simply go with TB's wrapping set at a comfortable 76 to 74.

 But  maybe  my  key  comment was way to long to handle, i have shortened
 it  hopefully  this  will be the end of it  pgp that doesn't
 work correctly,

That has to be a system specific problem for you. You are the only one
I've ever heard of having that kind of problem.

 wrapping that causes problems: one begins to wonder why
 do i even bother? :)

One thing I would do is turn off Options/Editor Preferences Justify on
Wrap. It too adds difficulty in reading your messages because of the
extra spaces that are inserted. If you consider that, along with your
previous 80 character line length, and your especially long and
unwrapped opening and closing lines, you can quickly see how you've set
yourself up for wrapping/PGP signature and readability problems.
However, we seem to be slowly winning the battle. :o)


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Re: template adressbook

2001-12-28 Thread Thomas F

Hello Nick,

On Fri, 28 Dec 2001 22:11:53 -0800 GMT (29/12/2001, 14:11 +0800 GMT),
Nick Andriash wrote:

NA To validate that Public Key, you must first sign it with a non-exportable
NA  signature, and then you can assign it a level of trust.

Thanks, worked fine. :-)

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Re: OT - best freeware/shareware web authoring program?

2001-12-28 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Joe,
On 29 Dec 2001 at 18:03:37 [GMT -0600], you wrote:

JF Within the last 10-12 days or so, someone here wrote about a *great*
JF freeware/shareware web authoring program.

JF Does anyone remember it's name?

Not the one that was mentioned, but I'd recommend Phase 5 written by
Ulli Meybohm. It's one of the best HTML editors I know of and it's
freeware. But you should have some experience with HTML, because it's
not a WYSIWYG editor, but you have to edit directly the HTML source
instead.

Have a look at www.meybohm.de, the site is partly in German, but you can
find the download just below that big Windows logo halfway down the
site.

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