Re: recover deleted messages

Hi Bonny, On Tuesday, April 9, 2002 at 09:17:06 [GMT +1000], you wrote: BR> I've managed to delete messages using a rule (which was not meant BR> to happen, of course...) and I would like to recover them. The BR> message text still seems to be in the file itself. What about "Folder -> Brow

The Bat in a Home Network

Hi folks, I have the following question: At Home I have my normal PC and a Notebook. They are connected via a LAN. Now I want to use TheBat on both computers (and on each computer I want to have the most updated message base). Is there any way to achieve this? thx for your help. cheers, Marku

Re: recover deleted messages

On Tuesday, April 9, 2002, 01:17, Bonny Rais wrote: > I've managed to delete messages using a rule (which was not meant to > happen, of course...) and I would like to recover them. The message > text still seems to be in the file itself. Take a look at the menu item Folder -> Browse deleted mes

daily digest

Hi, how can I get for some time a daily digest from TBUDL instead of daily mails? -- Best regards, Roland mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I use The Bat! v1.60c under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 (XP)! Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ

Re: auto response

Hello civ. At 10:11 PM on Monday, April 08, 2002 you wrote the following about [auto response]: JR>> Look under account/properties/transport - deferred or JR>> immediate. civ> Immediate was enabled. Another idea? nope. sorry. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V1.60c/W2K_SP2 ICQ

Re: auto response

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, April 08, 2002, at 7:11:06 PM PST, civ wrote: > Immediate was enabled. Another idea? Go to your Sorting Office filter for the auto-response message, and then to the "Options" tab. Under "Send generated messages", enable "Immediately". M

Re[2]: auto response

Hello Jan Rifkinson, this is an answer to your message. Date: Tuesday, April 9, 2002 Subject: auto response JR> Look under account/properties/transport - deferred or JR> immediate. Immediate was enabled. Another idea? -- Best regards_ // ° \ ||

Re: Index file

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In a message dated, Tue, 09 Apr 2002 02:58:48 +0200, Peter Kerekes [PK] wrote: ... PK> Which is the index folder? I found two files in that folder: *.tbb PK> and *.tbi Is the latter the index file? PK> Should I just close Bat, delete the *.tbi file f

Re: auto response

Hello civ At 9:32 PM on Monday, April 08, 2002 you wrote the following about [auto response]: civ> I created a filter which should immediately send an civ> response to the sender's mail on a certain text in the civ> subject. The answer-mail is created properly but placed civ> in my outbox inste

auto response

Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED], I created a filter which should immediately send an response to the sender's mail on a certain text in the subject. The answer-mail is created properly but placed in my outbox instead of sending it directly. Which options do I have to check / uncheck to get this work

Re: The Bat! and IBM keyboards

Hello Nick At 4:16 PM on Monday, April 08, 2002 you wrote the following about [The Bat! and IBM keyboards]: Nick> She just got a new IBM computer that has one of those Nick> keyboards with all the quick access buttons. One was Nick> setup for email. [...] I'm using a MS keyboard w quick acces

Index file

Hello TheBat! Mailing List Members. I was trying to run a backup and got an error message on one of the folder cannot be backed up: try to delete the index file and reread the folder then try to backup again. Which is the index folder? I found two files in that folder: *.tbb and *.tbi Is the lat

Re: again: folder level templates

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 @ 01:19:22 +0200 [ Tue, 09 Apr 2002], David Van Zuijlekom [DVZ] thoughtfully wrote the following: ... DVZ> I know the warnings about folder level templates and normally I DVZ> always use AB templates, but I was wondering what is dangerous DVZ> about u

The Bat! and IBM keyboards

Another question from my sister She just got a new IBM computer that has one of those keyboards with all the quick access buttons. One was setup for email. With it The Bat! kept popping open for her every minute or so (I'm guessing how ever often she had it set to poll for mail). She said

Re: again: folder level templates

Hello David, > Thanks to Miguel A. Urech... You know the price, you owe me a beer now ;-) There is no problem using folder templates. I use AB templates but also folder templates for some folders and specially for newsgroups. These are, for example, my templates for one of the Microsoft newsgro

Replying to ReplyTo (again!)

Someone replied to the following (unfortunately I lost his/her message). Start of original message text=== TheBat! uses the original From address and not the original ReplyTo address, even when there is an original ReplyTo address. Is there something I must do t

again: folder level templates

Hello TBUDL, Thanks to the wonderful tutorial from Miguel A. Urech about downloading news from mailtraq into TB! and posting to newsgroups from TB! I follow certain newsgroups through TB!. Now I was thinking of a way to post messages to newsgroups. Posting a new message is no problem,

recover deleted messages

Hi TBUDL, I've managed to delete messages using a rule (which was not meant to happen, of course...) and I would like to recover them. The message text still seems to be in the file itself. Any ideas? Cheers, Bonny mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _

[OT] For those who use Winamp

Hello all, I recall seeing a number of list members including "Winamp now playing..." in the signature. If you are a Winamp user, whether you include it in your signature or not, it may be of interest to you to take a look at: http://www.securiteam.com/windowsntfocus/5MP091P6UW.html -- Bes

Re[2]: Migrating Problems. Going from Outlook to The Bat! What a PITA!

Could a Macro be setup to do that? Yeah, what a PITA! -- Shane R. Monroe Dark Unicorn Productions http://www.darkunicornproductions.com Monday, April 8, 2002, 2:24:26 PM, you wrote: GL> Monday, April 8, 2002, 9:47:01 PM, Brien King wrote: >> Give me the format of the Address book for The Bat

Re: Migrating Problems. Going from Outlook to The Bat! What a PITA!

Monday, April 8, 2002, 9:47:01 PM, Brien King wrote: > Give me the format of the Address book for The Bat! and I'll write something > to import contacts from Outlook! I'll even give the source to The Bat! I'm > ready to dump Outlook, but I'm not leaving without my contact information, > and I a

Re[2]: hotmail? & Eudora

Hello Peter, Now that you mention it, I seem to recall going from Eudora to netscape ( or outlook, I can't remember) and there was something about eudora being mbox already, you just delete the one file and import the other.. I'll ask my friend, but I think for now he just wants to play with The B

RE: Migrating Problems. Going from Outlook to The Bat! What a PITA!

Yeah, that's the name of it :-) "Dawn". When I talked to you, I thought it had, until I started looking at specific contacts and noticed information was missing (Addresses, Phone Numbers, etc...) -- Brien King Arcade Game Collector [EMAIL PROTECTED] Arcade Restoration Workshop @ http://www.arc

Re: Migrating Problems. Going from Outlook to The Bat! What a PITA!

Here I was thinking you weren't going to be on the list ... I thought you said DAWN took care of that? Downer. -- Shane R. Monroe Dark Unicorn Productions http://www.darkunicornproductions.com Monday, April 8, 2002, 1:47:01 PM, you wrote: BK> Ok, BK> I am almost done. I managed to import a

Migrating Problems. Going from Outlook to The Bat! What a PITA!

Ok, I am almost done. I managed to import all my messages from Outlook into The Bat! It was painful, but I managed. What I had to do was this: 1) Import all my messages into Outlook Express 5 2) Import that into The Bat! Easy enough, except that Outlook Express only allows you to import the

Re[2]: How about a print preview feature?

Hello Dierk, Tuesday, April 9, 2002, 4:13:49 AM, you wrote: DH> Hello Jan! DH> On Monday, April 8, 2002 at 4:32:56 PM you wrote: >> Oh, I don't know if "rootle" means anything rude anywhere >> else in the world -- I really wouldn't worry about it. DH> Not according to the *New Oxford Engl

Re: Problem installing Version 1.60c

AD> I've been trying to install 1.60c over the top of my existing 1.53d AD> copy. The installation looks fine - it selects the correct directory, AD> tells me that it's installing 1.60c and shows me the readme file for AD> 1.60c. However, when I then run the program, it's still running the AD> pre

Re: Feature poll - double-click move focus

ok.. I agree with Yuki.. when you double click on a folder type view, it should expand it automatically! This only makes sense, who cares if it isn't files. and it isn't an explorer.. in this interface, that is exactly what the folders do. It doesn't make sense that it doesn't open the folder. It

Problem installing Version 1.60c

Hi I've been trying to install 1.60c over the top of my existing 1.53d copy. The installation looks fine - it selects the correct directory, tells me that it's installing 1.60c and shows me the readme file for 1.60c. However, when I then run the program, it's still running the previous version. W

Re: How about a print preview feature?

Hello Dierk. At 12:13 PM on Monday, April 08, 2002 you wrote the following about [How about a print preview feature?]: Dierk> In the US it also means to applaud/cheer/support Dierk> (especially in sports) Interesting. To be truthful, I'd hate to explain to a sports fan that what I was do

Filtering

Hello TBUL, I thought I would try "filtering against my personal address book. I had the rule active and checking against the personal address book. What happened is most of the e-mail ended up in the Inbox-Known folder from various mailing list. In retrospect when I look at the heade

Reg Exp

Dear All, Can anyone explain to me how the Calculate REGEX works. I want to put a countdown macro in my sig, so it says today is 8th Apr, so 5 days until X. How would I do this please? -- Best regards, Adam Using The Bat! v1.60 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 _

Re[2]: Ver 1.53d

Monday, April 8, 2002, 10:35:16 AM, Haico scribbled: H> On 8-4-2002 at 16:44, Michael Disabato wrote: H> Hi Michael, >> Can anyone point me to a copy of 1.53d? I really need to get the rest >> of my Eudora mail over to TB! before I take the final plunge. H> I still have a copy on my comp. Cont

Re[2]: Ver 1.53d

Monday, April 8, 2002, 10:54:22 AM, Roelof scribbled: RO> Hello Michael, RO> On Mon, 8 Apr 2002 09:44:26 -0500GMT (8-4-02, 16:44 +0200GMT, where I RO> live), you wrote: MD>> Can anyone point me to a copy of 1.53d? I really need to get the rest MD>> of my Eudora mail over to TB! before I take th

Re: Feature poll - double-click move focus

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In a message dated, Mon, 8 Apr 2002 16:28:31 +0200, Peter Palmreuther [PP] wrote: ... PP> I do use Folder View really seldom so it's not up to me to defend PP> this way of opening it, I use folder view and use the enter and double click functions a l

Re[3]: Mail Merge

Hello Miguel, Monday, April 08, 2002, 12:02:47 AM, you wrote: MAU> When VA started its main market was as an OLR for Compuserve Forums MAU> (including binary libraries) and CIX, although it could also handle MAU> Internet mail and Usenet. That perhaps made it some what peculiar in MAU> some conc

Re: How about a print preview feature?

Hello Jan! On Monday, April 8, 2002 at 4:32:56 PM you wrote: > Oh, I don't know if "rootle" means anything rude anywhere > else in the world -- I really wouldn't worry about it. Not according to the *New Oxford English Dictionary*; it would be rather an idiosyncratic use of the word. It is

Re: Importing Messages from Pegasus

Hello GJim, Monday, April 8, 2002, 6:07:53 PM, you wrote: > I have a huge number of old EMail messages in Pegasus format. I have > been able to import old messages from some of the Pegasus accounts > (those with a small number of messages). However, the import routine > chokes on the one acc

Re: Feature poll - double-click move focus

Hello Dierk, On Monday, April 8, 2002 at 4:59:06 PM you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part): DH> With this definition - technically quite correct, I know - no DH> programme is anything else but a file manager. I venture to say that DH> even the most basic (no pun

Importing Messages from Pegasus

Howdy Ladies and Gents, I have a huge number of old EMail messages in Pegasus format. I have been able to import old messages from some of the Pegasus accounts (those with a small number of messages). However, the import routine chokes on the one account that has probably 30,000+ messages. When

Re: Ver 1.53d

Hello Michael, On Mon, 8 Apr 2002 09:44:26 -0500GMT (8-4-02, 16:44 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: MD> Can anyone point me to a copy of 1.53d? I really need to get the rest MD> of my Eudora mail over to TB! before I take the final plunge. http://www.tucows.com/adnload/194169_74250.html --

Re: Ver 1.53d

On 8-4-2002 at 16:44, Michael Disabato wrote: Hi Michael, > Can anyone point me to a copy of 1.53d? I really need to get the rest > of my Eudora mail over to TB! before I take the final plunge. I still have a copy on my comp. Contact me offlist if you want it. Greetings, Haico __

Re: Feature poll - double-click move focus

Hello Peter! On Monday, April 8, 2002 at 4:38:00 PM you wrote: > But back to TB! and not being a file manager: for me it is some kind of > that. A file manager, handling very special files, most of them are textual > files w/o need to 'execute' but only 'view'. It uses it's own 'file system' > (

Ver 1.53d

Can anyone point me to a copy of 1.53d? I really need to get the rest of my Eudora mail over to TB! before I take the final plunge. Thanks! Mike Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PR

Re: How about a print preview feature?

Hello Peter. At 8:47 PM on Sunday, April 07, 2002 you wrote the following about [How about a print preview feature?]: Peter> I was a little unsure about using that word, in case Peter> it meant something rude somewhere else in the world. Peter> In fact, In New Zealand it is descriptive of what a

Re: hotmail? & Eudora

Hello Paul, On Monday, April 8, 2002 at 12:11:28 AM you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part): PC> eudora 4.x has no export feature, so he can't export IIRC Eudora mail files are already MBOX styled, or absolutely near at MBOX style. If one could provide a sample

Re: Feature poll - double-click move focus

Hello Yuki, On Monday, April 8, 2002 at 2:12:38 PM you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part): YT> Explorer is *not* an e-mail program. ACK ... I wasn't sure about this fact so I didn't wrote about it *SCNR* YT> TB is not a file manager, like Explorer. ACK too. :

Re: Feature poll - double-click move focus

Hello Miguel, On Monday, April 8, 2002 at 3:57:11 PM you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part): MAU> But then, for the sake of coherency, that should be the behaviour for MAU> double-click on the message list pane when in a thread view. >From the logical POV I've

Re[2]: Feature poll - double-click move focus

Hello Peter, > No. Take behavior in nearly every windows control as comparison. > Double click on one element in a tree structure opens that element and > shows it's children (if any). > More detailed example: Windows-Explorer: > left side = drive & folder tree > right side = files & folders > >

Re: reply-option

Hi Dave, On Monday, April 8, 2002 at 04:49:50 [GMT -0700], you wrote: >> hold and click 'Reply' button. DiP> Doesn't seem to work at least using WinXP. Works fine here, at least with this message. -- Regards, Lars The Bat! 1.60d on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 ___

Re: Feature poll - double-click move focus

Monday, April 8, 2002, 8:48:36 PM, Allie wrote: ACM> On Mon, 8 Apr 2002 13:37:28 +0200, Marcus Ohlström [MO] graced us with ACM> these comments: ACM> ... MO>> Again, consider the behaviour of explorer.exe. When you double MO>> click a folder no other windows opens up. If you want to open a MO>> s

Re[2]: reply-option

Hello Peter, > Or if you prefer using the mouse highlight the text, hold and click > 'Reply' button. I didn't know that one. No big deal to remember and use F4 but, being mouse oriented as I am, the Shift key is easier for me (closer to my normal left hand standing position than F4 :) -- Best

Re[2]: reply-option

Le lundi 8 avril 2002, à 13:08, Peter Palmreuther a écrit : L>> Highlight the part you want to reply to and hit F4: you'll get the L>> reply window with the selected text. you made my day, buddy :-)) -- jmq (/TheBat!) www.balladamotodusud.fr.st __

Re: Feature poll - double-click move focus

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 8 Apr 2002 13:37:28 +0200, Marcus Ohlström [MO] graced us with these comments: ... MO> Again, consider the behaviour of explorer.exe. When you double MO> click a folder no other windows opens up. If you want to open a MO> separate window you h

Re[2]: reply-option

> Or if you prefer using the mouse highlight the text, hold and > click 'Reply' button. Doesn't seem to work at least using WinXP. But the highlight F4 does Best wishes Dave in Phoenix http://www.sexwork.com http://www.sexworktoronto.com http://www.touchangels.com http://www.libchrist.com

Re: Feature poll - double-click move focus

Monday, April 8, 2002, 8:18:40 PM, Allie wrote: ACM> I tend to agree with you there. ACM> I think it would be better that if double clicking on the folder ACM> did anything it should really open the folder's view folder ACM> window for browsing the folder in a separate window. Ugh. Well, his r

Re[2]: Feature poll - double-click move focus

On Monday, April 8, 2002, 13:18, Allie C Martin wrote: > If TB! has the ability to show the folders contents in a separate > window, which it does, then intuitively, double-clicking the folder > should bring up the window. Again, consider the behaviour of explorer.exe. When you double click a f

Re: editor quirks

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 8 Apr 2002 06:56:44 -0400, Paul Cartwright [PC] wrote these comments: ... PC> sure, I can follow instructions, thanks! I don't _insist_ on doing PC> much of anything, Bad wording there, and I apologize for it. If you find creating a new messa

Re: Feature poll - double-click move focus

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 @ 13:07:16 +0200 [ Mon, 8 Apr 2002], Peter Palmreuther [PP] contributed this to our collective wisdom: ... PP> You'll never see switching the focus to files on the right side PP> when double clicking the folder on the left. And as many are used PP> to

Re[2]: editor quirks

Hello Lars, oops I see what you mean. You don't usually find such detailed info like that in a welcome letter, ( m. Please start all new topics by creating a brand new message. Do *not* just reply to an existing message and change the subject.) that was awfully deep down i

Re[2]: editor quirks

Hello Allie, Sunday, April 7, 2002, 8:12:20 PM, you wrote: ACM> If you insist on posting a new message on a new topic to the list by ACM> replying to another message, *please* enable the 'follow-up' to ACM> header field in your editor (View/follow-up To) as shown in the ACM> screenshots. ACM>

Re: reply-option

Hello Luc, On Monday, April 8, 2002 at 9:58:36 AM you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part): L> Highlight the part you want to reply to and hit F4: you'll get the L> reply window with the selected text. Or if you prefer using the mouse highlight the text, hold

Re: Feature poll - double-click move focus

Hello Yuki, On Monday, April 8, 2002 at 10:00:17 AM you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part): YT> Anyone like this idea? No. Take behavior in nearly every windows control as comparison. Double click on one element in a tree structure opens that element and shows

Re[2]: editor quirks

oOhhHHH!! thanks for the education, I didn't realize you could thread be references, now I know ! MR> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- MR> Hash: SHA1 MR> On Sunday, April 07, 2002, at 4:23:28 PM PST, Paul Cartwright wrote: >> I'm not sure I understand what YOU mean. when I starte

Re: Feature poll - double-click move focus

ON Monday, April 8, 2002, 10:40:39 AM, you wrote: YT> Monday, April 8, 2002, 5:33:57 PM, Dierk wrote: DH>> Hello Yuki! DH>> On Monday, April 8, 2002 at 10:00:17 AM you wrote: >>> How about a double-click on a folder putting the focus on that >>> folder's message list, assuming that could be

Re: OT Ascii art (was Re: Shortcuts)

Good afternoon Marck, It was foretold that on 8-4-2002 @ 10:52:08 GMT+0100 (which was 11:52 where I live) Marck D Pearlstone wrote and spread these wise comments on "OT Ascii art (was Re: Shortcuts)": MDP> .\\' = 'M' in a minor piece of ASCII art. Another thing learned ;-) -- Best regards

OT Ascii art (was Re: Shortcuts)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Luc, @08 April 2002, 10:52:06 +0200 (09:52 UK time) Luc wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Btw, what i always wanted to ask: is the \\arck in your sig > deliberate? or just a flaw? (nosey, ain't i? lol) I like to think of it a

Re: Feature poll - double-click move focus

Hello Yuki, > Anyone like this idea? Yes !! -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.60c Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives :

Re: Shortcuts

Good morning Marck, It was foretold that on 8-4-2002 @ 09:21:15 GMT+0100 (which was 10:21 where I live) Marck D Pearlstone wrote and spread these wise comments on "Shortcuts": MDP> Also, the maintained list is to be found at MDP> http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/shortcut_eng.html Great !

Re: Feature poll - double-click move focus

Monday, April 8, 2002, 5:33:57 PM, Dierk wrote: DH> Hello Yuki! DH> On Monday, April 8, 2002 at 10:00:17 AM you wrote: >> How about a double-click on a folder putting the focus on that >> folder's message list, assuming that could be implemented? DH> Yes. >> I am also assuming here the focus

Re: Feature poll - double-click move focus

Hello Yuki! On Monday, April 8, 2002 at 10:00:17 AM you wrote: > How about a double-click on a folder putting the focus on that > folder's message list, assuming that could be implemented? Yes. > I am also assuming here the focus would go to the same message that > had the focus the previous t

Re[2]: reply-option

Le lundi 8 avril 2002, à 09:58, Luc a écrit : j>> Is there a way to configure TB so that I would just have to select the j>> part of an Original Message I want to reply to and click on the "reply" j>> button, then only this selected part would display in the "reply" j>> window Just Great :-)) -

Re: Feature poll - double-click move focus

Hi Yuki, On Monday, April 8, 2002 at 17:00:17 [GMT +0900], you wrote: YT> Anyone like this idea? Yes! ;-) -- Regards, Lars The Bat! 1.60d on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 |Lars Geiger | |

Re: Shortcuts

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Luc, @08 April 2002, 10:16:30 +0200 (09:16 UK time) Luc wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Is there a page with available shortcuts? > I looked at http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/shortcut.eng.txt but > that seems for versi

Shortcuts

Good morning list, Is there a page with available shortcuts? I looked at http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/shortcut.eng.txt but that seems for version 1.38e. Or do they still apply ? -- Best regards, Luc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --

Feature poll - double-click move focus

Anyone interested in this? Right now, if you double click on a folder, nothing happens. The focus just stays right there, as if you'd single-clicked it for the very reason of putting the focus there. This is fine as far as it goes of course, but then it takes an extra wrist movement (and an ext

Re: reply-option

Good morning jmq, It was foretold that on 8-4-2002 @ 09:40:48 GMT+0200 (which was 9:40 where I live) jmq wrote and spread these wise comments on "reply-option": j> Is there a way to configure TB so that I would just have to select the j> part of an Original Message I want to reply to and cli

reply-option

Hello, I am jmq from France and looking for the best mailer, well, the one that suits to me. Is there a way to configure TB so that I would just have to select the part of an Original Message I want to reply to and click on the "reply" button, then only this selected part would display in the "re

Re: editor quirks

Hi Paul, On Monday, April 8, 2002 at 19:23:28 [GMT -0400], you wrote: MR>> Starting a completely new subject in apparent reply to a totally MR>> unrelated message. PC> I'm not sure I understand what YOU mean. when I started that PC> message, I'm not sure if I hit forward OR create new email BUT