Re: SSL Support
Hello kattack, On 12 October 2005, 11:33 you wrote: Quick Question: Does Bat! support SSL? And if the answer is Yes, could you tell me where I can find the option to enable it for a specific account? TB! supports TLS. SSL is for use with HTTP, i.e. secure Web pages. TLS grew out of SSL. You are using Gmail with TB!. Therefore, you have already established a TLS connection. Look in Account Properties | Transport | Connection. BTW, you have inadvertently broken a couple of mailing list rules: no signature delimiter and starting a new thread by replying to another message. -- As ever, .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 The business of everybody is the business of nobody. LORD MCCAULAY ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.61.11 Echo (Beta) IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Thunderbird
Hello Nick, On 28 September 2005, 17:05 you wrote: On the subject of message indexing/searching, I'm still aching from the demise of Bloomba, which really seemed to be going somewhere new. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloomba. Apparently, it's been re-released as WordPerfect MAIL. -- As ever, .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 If a man begins with certainties, he shall end in doubt; but if he will be content to begin with doubts, he shall end in certainties. FRANCIS BACON, 1561-1626 ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.61.07 Echo (Beta) IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Do not play sound
Hello Chris, On 13 September 2005, 04:12 you wrote: Is there any way to tell The Bat! NOT to play the new mail sound when a message arrives? You can disable sound on a folder-by-folder basis, which may do what you want, e.g. disable messages filtered to list folders. -- As ever, .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 You can do anything in this world if you are prepared to take the consequences. W SOMERSET MAUGHAM ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.60.05 Forerunner (Beta) IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Newly back to The Bat!, many questions.
Hello Tom, On 09 September 2005, 07:17 you wrote: You need to copy the certificate into your Address Book trusted CA section. How do I do this? My address book has a Certum CA Directory, Netcenter Member Directory, and Verisign, although I don't know what any of them mean and there's no info in the help file on them (I thought they had to do with LDAP for some reason, but don't know why I thought that now). You should also see two red icons for Intermediate CA and Trusted CA in your address book... Right-clicking gives me a menu where I can add new contacts or groups, but neither of those seem appropriate as I just want to add a certificate that says, when you get this domainx certificate, it's ok if you're connecting to domainy. However, whilst trying to replicate your issue (since my certificate now matches the server name) I have experienced problems and cannot get it to work permanently. Importing the certificate into the trusted CA doesn't prevent the server hostname/certificate mismatch. Yet I do recall having this working in the past. Roelof says in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] that this isn't possible. If so, I must have had a work-around. Yet the only thing I can come up with is that I used the server IP and this matched the dummy certificate first used by my server. However, I'm sure it used something like localhost.localdomain and not the IP address, which rules out that idea... Anyway, what I suggest is you try this: you import the certificate into you trusted CA and then change your mail settings to the server listed in the certificate not pop.fancy.org (your MX record points to mx.futurequest.net.) It may not be your domain name but that shouldn't be important since your hosting company supports multiple domains on its server(s.) It's your login that matters. Whilst I tested this approach with one of my domains successfully it may not work for you. Anyone else care to chip in? -- As ever, .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 How does a project get to be late? ...one day at a time. F BROOKS ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.60.05 Forerunner (Beta) IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Server certificate problem with TLS
Hello Roelof, On 09 September 2005, 14:11 you wrote: CT Mulberry lets me accept or reject a mis-matching certificate but CT I can't find how to do this from TB. TB won't do that. See mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] for a similar discussion. -- As ever, .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 There are no hopeless situations: there are only men who have grown hopeless about them. CLAIRE BOOTH LUCE ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.60.05 Forerunner (Beta) IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Newly back to The Bat!, many questions.
Hello Tom, On 08 September 2005, 06:49 you wrote: 3) My domain provider recently started offering POP and SMTP over SSL. I'd love to use it. Unfortunately for me, I need to access it with pop.fancy.org, and the host's certificate says their domain name. The Bat! subsequently refuses to connect. Is there a way I can tell The Bat!, yeah, I know it's the wrong hostname in the cert, but allow it anyway? I tried connecting to the hostname in the cert, but as I guessed previously to trying, it refused me. I have been using SSH and tunnelling over that, but I'd like to get rid of that extra step if possible. Yes, this is possible. You need to copy the certificate into your Address Book trusted CA section. -- As ever, .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 How narrow is the line which separates an adventure from an ordeal. HAROLD NICHOLSON ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.60.05 Forerunner (Beta) IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Help! My Address book has disappeared! (after upgrading to vs 3.5)
Hello Jack, On 05 June 2005, 21:23 you wrote: TheBat.ADB RootCA.ADB LDAP#1.ADB LDAP#2.ADB LDAP#3.ADB I tried opening this TheBat.ADB file and got yet another copy of the address book that comes with The Bat (and totally worthless to me). If you open the Address Book, select Personal address book, and Properties (Alt+Enter) what is the file location? Is it something similar to C:\Documents and Settings\your-account\Application Data\The Bat!\TheBat.ABD or the location of the file listed above? If it's the temporary folder you mention then the original file could intact in its original location. Otherwise, you may be unfortunate and it's been overwritten with the new one... although that seems unlikely. Does anyone know if this new upgrade even allows for a restore to a vs 3.0 data set? At least I would get back some of the *hundreds* of addresses that I now seem to have lost. Since you have no backup try System Restore as Mary suggests... TB! will create a new restore point before it's installed. Hopefully, you haven't turned that off. -- As ever, .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 What is now proved was once impossible. WILLIAM BLAKE ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.5.24 IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.5.0.17 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP 9 ans TheBat!
Hello Allie, On 23 May 2005, 21:43 you wrote: If only women came with pulldown menus and online help. ...and a reset button. ;-) -- As ever, .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 I've got a little list. I've got a little list. W S GILBERT ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.5.0.11 IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP 9 ans TheBat!
Hello Tony, On 23 May 2005, 16:59 you wrote: I tried it as well and The Bat! won't work with PGP9. However there is another way, Allie will shout at me for telling you this but try enabling email proxy in PGP9. It works here with no problems. Does this explain why your message ID is always something like mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]? Or is this the IP address assigned by your router? Either way, TB! can't locate a message with this type of ID. Same goes for Allie's messages, e.g. mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. -- As ever, .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 People love chopping wood. In this activity one immediately sees results. ALBERT EINSTEIN ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.5 Return RC9 IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP 9 ans TheBat!
Hello Allie, On 23 May 2005, 17:39 you wrote: Does this explain why your message ID is always something like mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]? Or is this the IP address assigned by your router? Either way, TB! can't locate a message with this type of ID. Same goes for Allie's messages, e.g. mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. .. and here I was liking it, since my domain name isn't included in the message id. :( Do these IP-based message IDs work with *cough* mU1b3rry? :-) -- As ever, .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 Would you like me to give you a formula for success? It's quite simple really. Double your rate of failure. THOMAS J WATSON ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.5 Return RC9 IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP 9 ans TheBat!
Hello Alexander, On 23 May 2005, 18:10 you wrote: Does this explain why your message ID is always something like No, that's nothing to do with PGP. That IP is the one issued to this PC by my router... You don't want me to get rid of that as well do you? To answer Tony's message first... I thought it could be your router. However, I would have thought that your machine would be identified by its name and local domain. The interesting thing is that everyone using Mulberry has MID's that end with their local IP address instead of their local domain. I had noticed this and wondered if it was a coincidence or not. Nonetheless, should TB! working with IP-based message IDs? Also, will you try Mulberry with 11? -- As ever, .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 You can do anything in this world if you are prepared to take the consequences. W SOMERSET MAUGHAM ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.5 Return RC9 IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I need help from a specialist, urgent !!!
Hello Claude, On 20 May 2005, 17:59 you wrote: User clauderenaud Try using [EMAIL PROTECTED] for the userid. -- As ever, .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 The only way to be sure of catching a train is to miss the one before it. G K CHESTERTON ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.5 Return RC9 IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Special folders
Hello tbudl, I've renamed a couple of folders on my IMAP server so I can take advantage of some TB! icons: $KNOWN$ Inbox - Known $JUNK$ Junk mail Is there a special folder for virus infected files? -- As ever, .\\artin J. Webster Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored. ALDOUS HUXLEY ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.5 Return RC9 IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Proposal for spam filters
Hello Steve,
On 18 May 2005, 10:49 you wrote:
The best way to not falsely identify mails on this list as spam is to
match the Return-Path against received lines, because all this lists
mail have a Return-Path of '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' and are
coming from '62.80.28.8' which identifies itself as
'draenor.its-toasted.org'.
You are assuming I am using TB or a plug in to do spam filtering.
Personally I do not even wish to download spams or viruses in the
first place which is why I have server side filtering via Spamcop
(which also includes Spam Assassin but I can not control their copy of
course).
I use the following procmail rule to filter TBUDL, TBBETA etc.
# ---
# Mailman and other intelligent software lists
# (e.g. List-Post: mailto:tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com)
#
:0
* ^List-Post: \mailto:\/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| ${FORMAIL} -a X-Folder: $MATCH mail/Lists/$MATCH
To date, I have never had spam end up in my TB! folders. However, I
have had SpamAssassin incorrectly classify a couple of genuine
messages but these get to the correct folder using the above rule... I
tend to test for lists before generic spam (other than fake messages,
mailing lists etc.)
The use of subject tags is therefore redundant even though many lists
to which I subscribe use them.
--
As ever,
.\\artin | ICQ 15893823
There can't be a crisis next week. My schedule is full. HENRY
KISSINGER
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Re[2]: Special folders
Hello Marek, On 18 May 2005, 11:30 you wrote: yes, $QRNTN$ Cheers! -- As ever, .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 I must follow them. I am their leader! ANDREW BONAR LAW ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.5 Return RC9 IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB! Memory Consumption
Hello Martin, On 16 May 2005, 19:48 you wrote: TB! has been running for about 14 hours or so: thebat.exe Mem Usage: 83,372K Peak Mem Usage: 95,692 VM Size: 76,108K Upon exiting and restarting, Mem Usage is 27,135K Anyone else seeing the sort of Mem Usage growth that I'm seeing here? Yes, very similar. Memory usage was around 150M after twenty hours or so. After a restart it's back to 30M. I'm using a single IMAP account and the Avast plug-in. I've been monitoring this over the past couple of days and reckon it's linked to browsing messages. I'm certainly confident it's not caused by receiving messages; an increase in memory usage only occurs if I'm actively using TB!, i.e. viewing messages. Memory usage didn't increase over an eight hour period while I was away from my desk. TB! was checking for mail every minute: a tad under 1,000 messages received. Try this. Restart TB! and note memory usage. Now browse your messages with PTV or RTV and you'll see memory usage increase (just keep clicking on messages.) Every time I choose another message or folder the memory footprint grows. The RTV has the added problem that messages larger than about 1M consume heaps of memory. -- As ever, .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 One of the greatest pains to human nature is the pain of a new idea. WALTER BAGEHOT, 1826 ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.5 Return RC9 IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Undelete? Used for...?
Hello Stefan, On 17 May 2005, 22:06 you wrote: Does anybody know what the item undelete (found in Customise dialog, branch MessageListViewer in the left pane) is used for? Currently, it's used only in the browser of deleted messages. It is possible, we will make it possible to browse deleted messages in normal message lists (i.e. in main window and separate folder browser) together with alive messages. :-) Does this mean that deleted messages will be visible in the main window and identified by strikeout text? -- As ever, .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 The Golden Rule is that there is no golden rule. GEORGE BERNARD SHAW ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.5 Return RC9 IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! Memory Consumption
Hello Allie, On 16 May 2005, 11:58 you wrote: TB! has been running for about 14 hours or so: thebat.exe Mem Usage: 83,372K Peak Mem Usage: 95,692 VM Size: 76,108K Upon exiting and restarting, Mem Usage is 27,135K Anyone else seeing the sort of Mem Usage growth that I'm seeing here? Yes, very similar. Memory usage was around 150M after twenty hours or so. After a restart it's back to 30M. I'm using a single IMAP account and the Avast plug-in. -- As ever, .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 How often misused words generate misleading thoughts. HUBERT SPENCER ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.5 Return RC9 IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Help! I lost my accounts
Hello Leif, On 16 May 2005, 19:44 you wrote: No problem.. I hasa similar issue where I wanted to move one mail account from TB installed on one laptop to a new laptop with TB installed. You should try IMAP! :-) -- As ever, .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 We don't see things as the are but rather as we are. ANAÏS NIN ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.5 Return RC9 IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Desktop Search Tools
Hello Alexander, On 12 May 2005, 16:32 you wrote: I've installed it but it hasn't indexed TB! at all. The plug-in is listed under Google Desktop preferences; should it be listed as a TB! plug-in? If so, how do I do this since it comes with a DLL and not a TBP file? You have to use the cmdline function described in the thread on Google, regsvr32 /s GoogleDesktopCantRemember.dll - make sure that TB is NOT running when you do this. When you're done and you restart TB the plugin will be automatically added (at least thats how it was here - how this works I don't know, but it works). Can't say anything about Pro with OTFE I'm using the Home version of TB. I tried this but no joy. Thanks anyway. -- As ever, .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 There are no hopeless situations: there are only men who have grown hopeless about them. CLAIRE BOOTH LUCE ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.5 Return RC8 IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Desktop Search Tools
Hello Alexander, On 11 May 2005, 21:01 you wrote: So far it works; both the indexing and the searching are very fast - nice! I've installed it but it hasn't indexed TB! at all. The plug-in is listed under Google Desktop preferences; should it be listed as a TB! plug-in? If so, how do I do this since it comes with a DLL and not a TBP file? -- As ever, .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 The business of everybody is the business of nobody. LORD MCCAULAY ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.5 Return RC8 IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Buying The Bat! pro
Hello Claude, On 08 May 2005, 21:43 you wrote: Can someone tell me where to buy a e-token ? iKey 2032 USB Smart Token (Rainbow Technologies) on eBay... item 5192562109 at around EUR 27 delivered (4 hours to go!) -- As ever, .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 We're not retreating, we're just advancing in another direction. GENERAL GEORGE S PATTON ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.5 Return RC5 IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Smileys
Hello Urban, On 28 April 2005, 22:45 you wrote: But there could be a big problem with * (any number of the preceeding character). If we change the regexp from Martin to ^From.*(OWNER|owner)-(NOLIST|nolist)-.*\ *.* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Note the spaces around the first *.*) you might see what I'm getting at. A bold . written is hard to distinguish from one that is written in a normal font, and it most definitely is not the same thing as *.* (Bad example, I know, but it's getting kind of late and I'm too tired to make up my own examples). I doubt that there is a problem with the ideas described in this thread... I looked at every message in Mozilla Thunderbird and each renders correctly. -- As ever, .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 We are born princes, and the civilizing process makes us into frogs. ERIC BERNE ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.0.9.20 Return IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Smileys
Hello Alexander, On 28 April 2005, 18:17 you wrote: I don't understand. Aren't asterisks and brackets also parts of the regex syntax, and we anyway use them all in a regular text? I don't understand, either. RegEx, to be precise. :-P All I (think I) know is that the slash is used as an escape character if you want to match characters that normally are regex qualifiers. Like if you really mean to match an asterisk you'd use /* in the regex. Or something like that. :-} Actually, (to be precise :-) ) you would use the backslash \, e.g. ^From.*(OWNER|owner)-(NOLIST|nolist)[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- As ever, .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 There can't be a crisis next week. My schedule is full. HENRY KISSINGER ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.0.9.20 Return IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to delete the cache
Hello Michael, On 27 April 2005, 12:18 you wrote: I've been reading from time to time that the cache should be deleted when running into several problems. I have no idea how I can achieve this. Can somebody help me out, please ? If you use IMAP, right-click on the folder and select Properties (or Alt-Enter.) Then click on the Clear cache now button. Otherwise, I suggest you describe the problems in a little more detail. -- As ever, .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 Probable impossibilities are to be preferred to improbable possibilities. ARISTOTLE, 384-322 BC ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.0.9.19 Return IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OK so I've got a regex pattern but...
Hello Admin,
On 14 April 2005, 14:42 you wrote:
I have now created a regex pattern to find an email address...
but in the reply template I have put: %TO=%REGEXPTEXT=regexpression
but it is not happening.
Try something like this to match an e-mail address:
%TO=%-
%TO=%REGEXPTEXT='^(([A-Za-z0-9]+_+)|([A-Za-z0-9]+\-+)|([A-Za-z0-9]+\.+)|([A-Z
a-z0-9]+\++))*[A-Za-z0-9]+@((\w+\-+)|(\w+\.))*\w{1,63}\.[a-z
A-Z]{2,6}$'%-
Note: %TO=%REGEXPTEXT='regex'
--
As ever,
.\\artin | ICQ 15893823
The only way to be sure of catching a train is to miss the one before
it. G K CHESTERTON
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Re: Change font for folder tree
Susanne [S], wrote: S I can't for my life figure out how to change the font for the folder tree anymore. S I've found it for every other area of TB. Preferences - System - Account tree font -- .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 The world can only be grasped by action, not contemplation. JACOB BRONOWSKI ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.0.2.5 | Horde IMP WebMail IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP folders disappear
Ken Green [KG], wrote: KG I'm having folders disappear. They are on the server (evidenced by KG logging in with another client or webmail). Not sure exactly how/when KG they disappear - I just start noticing messages that should be getting KG filtered staying in the Inbox. I check the filter and re-filter the KG Inbox and nothing happens. Then I notice that the folder that the KG messages are being filtered to is gone. (happens to be TBOT folder). KG I cannot re-create the folder in TB because it exists on the server KG (error). ...snip I see from a later post that you use Horde IMP Webmail... what IMAP server do you use? Nonetheless, I think there is more than one problem at work here. TB! IMAP filtering is unreliable and frequently fails to move messages (I mostly use server-side filtering.) But I can't recall folders disappearing... messages yes... folders no. I see you are creating folders in INBOX... and recall some Linux distributions not placing the inbox with an account's mail folders. I vaguely recall having problems with this configuration (with TB!) and used another client to create folders. What happens if you create folders from account root, i.e. not in the INBOX? Also, have you tried specifying the root folder in account preferences? Another thought. Have you used Manage IMAP Folders, reset the folder list and confirmed each subscription? And how do you specify the folder name? TBOT, INBOX;TBOT or INBOX/TBOT etc? It may be worth starting a shell session to see what TB! is doing server side. -- .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 What is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? ST MATTHEW 16:26 ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.0.2.6 | Horde IMP WebMail IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Yellow smilies don't seem to be working
Chris Weaven [CW], wrote: CW Does anyone have an unedited version of the files that they could CW possibly send me? You do... just re-run the MSI from Control Panel-Add or Remove Programs and select Repair... so long as you didn't delete the original installer. -- .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 I've got a little list. I've got a little list. W S GILBERT ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.0.2.6 | Horde IMP WebMail IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Compose window attachment pane
Nick Dutton [ND], wrote: ND Perhaps I'll go to TBOT with this one day, but I really think that ND we're ready for a next-generation e-mail solution, along the lines of ND Bloomba or Nelson Email Organizer. I'd be running NEO today if it ND didn't sit on top of Outlook... I've been trying NEO at work with Outlook on Exchange and it's very good at organising your mail... but that's all it does. No filtering, templates etc. you're back to using OL for that. But TB! can do pretty much everything NEO does and some _and_ with IMAP support. It's just a case of sitting down and working out the best way to do things. For example, I have quite a lot of virtual folders with tabs for Date, Files, Labels, and People under the folder tree. These include hot contacts, today's mail, yesterday's messages, this week, last week, attached documents, images, important messages, flagged (to do), valuable (parked messages) etc. And colour groups aren't that different to Outlook categories. In fact, I'd rather use TB! at work. Hopefully, future releases of TB! will come with some wizards to optionally set-up 'standard' virtual folders during installation. Also, a few predefined colour groups would be nice, especially for sent mail. Copied to TBOT (if my alternate address settings work.) -- .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 Nothing is inevitable until it happens. A J P TAYLOR ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.0.2.6 | Horde IMP WebMail IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TheBat Not Staying Open
Alexander Kunz [ASK], wrote: This started happening after I uninstalled pro and went to home. ASK Since you're currently mailing with AOL (it really hurts), if I were you ASK I'd try to uninstall again completely, then look for any left-overs in the ASK Windows registry (branch HKEY_CURRENT_USER | Software | Rit - if it still ASK exists after uninstall, delete it), the restart install again. Or you could try re-running the MSI for the Home edition and select repair when prompted. -- .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 How narrow is the line which separates an adventure from an ordeal. HAROLD NICHOLSON ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.0.2.6 | Horde IMP WebMail IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to get rid of Resent-from?
Bill McCarthy [BM], wrote: BM Thanks for that totally useless response ;-) If you request help don't knock it when received whether useful to you or not. BM You provided zero assistance. Your info was useless in solving BM the problem. Rather you chose to ignore it. Still no need to be rude. BM Get over it. You think this is important? -- .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 How narrow is the line which separates an adventure from an ordeal. HAROLD NICHOLSON ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.0.2.5 | Horde IMP WebMail IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to get rid of Resent-from?
Bill McCarthy [BM], wrote: One annoyance of redirect is that it adds a Resent-from header field. In my case, I'm usually redirecting things, for my wife's attention, to her. It ends up improperly filtered on her end - because it looks like it's from me (an X-Sender is generated). I've tried to get rid of this TB! created problem by writing a QT to be executed inside the redirected mail. I don't portray myself as an expert in this area but this isn't a problem with TB! The use of the RESENT-FROM header is defined in RFC 822. It is the FROM of a forwarded (redirected) message: ,- [ 4.4.1. FROM / RESENT-FROM ] | This field contains the identity of the person(s) who wished this | message to be sent. The message-creation process should default this | field to be a single, authenticated machine address, indicating the | AGENT (person, system or process) entering the message. If this is not | done, the Sender field MUST be present. If the From field IS | defaulted this way, the Sender field is optional and is redundant | with the From field. In all cases, addresses in the From field | must be machine-usable (addr-specs) and may not contain named lists | (groups). `- Nonetheless, I'm a little confused... the SENT header will be the sender of the original message not you. So why is there a problem filtering? I don't think you should attempt to change the headers but rather modify your filters if they aren't working correctly. If you wish to bring the redirected messages to your wife's attention the RESENT-FROM header will indeed help you. -- .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 Adventure is the result of poor planning. COL. BLASHFORD SNELL ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.0.2.5 | Horde IMP WebMail IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to get rid of Resent-from?
Bill McCarthy [BM], wrote: BM Thanks for that totally useless response ;-) I beg you pardon? If you request help don't knock it when received whether useful to you or not. If I've misunderstood you say so, don't start TTP! -- .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 I've learnt more from my failures than my successes. RICHARD BRANSON ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.0.2.5 | Horde IMP WebMail IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Localhost Help Needed
Keith Russell [KR], wrote: KR Generated Thu, 14 Oct 2004 19:57:34 GMT by proxy.xmission.com KR (squid/2.5.STABLE6) Is XMission your ISP? My guess is you're using your ISPs proxy server and need to disable it for local addresses. -- .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 Thus, the task is not so much to see what no one has yet seen; but to think what nobody has yet thought about that which everybody sees. ERWIN SCHRÖDINGER ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.0.2.4 Rush | Horde IMP WebMail IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Howto: Subfolder on IMAP which doesn't support this feature?
Raymund Tump [RTT], wrote: RTT I tried to create a subfolder on my IMAP server, that doesn't worked. RTT I got the attached message box, but frankly I don't understand what I RTT should try here. You can't attach images on TBUDL. What did it say? RTT Anyone who has done that successfully? Yes. But it all depends on your IMAP server... and whether you have permissions to create folders. On my server I can create new 'folders' using TB! However, many IMAP servers do not create a folder on the file system but rather a file or mailbox to store the messages. Consequently, some 'folders' cannot store messages (since they don't exist or are simply a folder.) TB! normally identifies these correctly and the folder name is grey not black. Probably best to use an example: A simple folder structure... | +INBOX +Drafts +Sent mail +Trash The corresponding files/folders on the server are: Maildir Maildir/INBOX Maildir/Drafts etc. If I want to create another folder, say 'Junk mail' just right-click on the account name and select New-Folder. Alternatively, use Manage IMAP folder. BTW, use Ctrl-F2 beforehand to make sure you're connected to the server. This will result in a new file on the server: Maildir/Junk mail However, if you try to create a folder in the INBOX it may not work... on my server I can create a new folder, which in turn creates a file called Maildir/INBOX;New folder on the server. IIRC I could not do this with UW-IMAP. Another example... I keep all my mailing lists in a folder called Mailing lists. :-) This folder doesn't really exist though. The folder tree looks like this: +Mailing lists +TBBETA +TBUDL +TBOT etc. ...but on the server I have the following files: Maildir/Mailing lists;TBBETA Maildir/Mailing lists;TBUDL etc. As you can see there's no corresponding mailbox for Mailing lists (which has grey text.) To create this folder structure in TB! use Manage IMAP folders and specify the folder name as 'Mailing lists;TBBETA' etc. Finally, make sure you set up your folder subscriptions... again with Manage IMAP folders. -- .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 There can't be a crisis next week. My schedule is full. HENRY KISSINGER ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.0.2.4 Rush | Horde IMP WebMail IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Howto: Subfolder on IMAP which doesn't support this feature?
Raymund Tump [RTT], wrote: RTT Could not create the mailbox named INBOX/Test RTT Server reports: CREATE only one hierachy level allowed RTT If you are trying to create a sub-folder of an existing folder, some RTT IMAP servers do not allow to do that. Instead, you should create a new RTT storage folder together with a sub-folder from the IMAP folder RTT manager using the following notation: Parwnt Folder/Sub-Folder, where RTT the / is the hierachy seperator use by the server. Your INBOX is a mailbox file not a folder. You can only create a new mailbox (storage folder) in a folder/directory or using the hierarchy separator / ; etc. (see my previous post on the subject.) My server uses mailboxes with the ; separator, e.g. Mailing lists;TBBETA. UW-IMAP uses folders and mailboxes, e.g. Mailing lists/TBBETA. In this example it's not possible to store messages in Mailing lists. With Dovecot it is possible if I create a mailbox called Mailing lists. Other IMAP servers may differ... what are you using? Anyway, you could try and create the sub-folder Test by specifying the folder name as INBOX/Test. You will have to use Manage IMAP folders to do this. But this may not be possible with your server. As you can see there's no corresponding mailbox for Mailing lists (which has grey text.) To create this folder structure in TB! use Manage IMAP folders and specify the folder name as 'Mailing lists;TBBETA' etc. RTT Why do you use ; here? The semicolon is the hierarchy separator on my server. -- .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 We don't see things as the are but rather as we are. ANAÏS NIN ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.0.2.4 Rush | Horde IMP WebMail IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Access violation when moving folders for rules
Michael Wilson [MLW], wrote: AGA When I create a new rule and try to move it with Alt and the mouse, if I AGA slip it downwards instead of upwards, I usually get an access violation, AGA like the message attached. Access violations then occur each time I try AGA to edit the filters, until I stop and restart TB. Nothing is corrupted AGA and everything works fine after I restart the client. MLW My reply... ...snip (I couldn't bear to repeat it) What! ??? You're having us on right? ,- [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Access_violation ] | An access violation occurs when a process attempts to access a portion | of memory assigned to another application, or an unused memory area, | without having permission to do so. It is typically the result of a | computer bug, for example a wrong pointer. In the popular C | programming language, the most frequent cause for access violations is | the use of a pointer that has been set to the NULL value, that is, | zero. This addressing is always reserved by the operating system, and | it is handled as a sure symptom of a serious programming error. `- -- .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 People are always blaming circumstances for what they are. I don't believe in circumstances. The people who get ahead in this world are the people who get up and look for the circumstances they want, and if they can't find them , make them. GEORGE BERNARD SHAW ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.0.1.33 | Horde IMP WebMail IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[5]: IMAP messages disappear.
Victorde [V], wrote: MA Ok, have you tried the Folder/Purge+Compress? V Yes, I did. I even tried to delete account, leave files behind and V recreate account againTB remembered settings but I did not want to V delete all setting, templates and mail. Try clearing the local cache... right-click on the folder and select properties. Then for good measure, exit TB! and restart. Also, in Account Settings use compress folder when changing folders. I've had similar problems in the past that may be caused by a damaged message base. You can use the maintenance centre to repair a folder but I only recommend working on one IMAP folder at a time. -- .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 One sees great things from the valley; only small things from the peak. G K CHESTERTON ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.0.1.33 | Horde IMP WebMail IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: What is the word Pranayama
Admin [A], wrote: A So it's obvious - they are saying a new release is on its way but A DON'T HOLD YOUR BREATH! Very good! :-) Nonetheless, I think it will be worth the wait... RL has put a lot of effort into 3.0.1, which has _many_ bug fixes. -- .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 A man who makes no mistakes does not usually make anything. EDWARD JOHN PHELPS, 12 January 1899 ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.0.1 RC7 | Horde IMP WebMail IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Question about middle mouse button click and hold
Hello Costas, On 16 September 2004, 15:55 +0300 (13:55 local time) Costas Papadopoulos [CP] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CP Is it possible to configure the middle mouse button (in this case an CP Intellimouse optical mouse) to scroll through a long message if the CP mouse button is clicked and held down, as opposed to scrolling by CP turning the wheel? Yes, certainly if you're using the Logitec MouseWare software... and I'm pretty sure there's an equivalent option for the Intellimouse software. Just assign button 2 for universal scroll using Control Panel - Mouse Properties. -- Best regards, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 The Bat! Version 3.0.0.15 Windows XP Professional 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Quote of the day: Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sudden Maintenance pop-up ... 3 months of mail lost!?
Hello Cory, On 14 September 2004, 15:43 +0200 (14:43 local time) Cory [C] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: C TB! v2.12.00 started (seemingly) normally this morning, then C displayed the Folder Maintenance window - which ran by itself - and C reported some corrupted folder, corrected this and went on. When done C checking it reportted some corrections and possible lost mail. The C user then reported to me by phone that she'd indeed lost last 3 C months of mails; I had (and still have) no idea of what had gone C wrong. Check to see is there's a scheduled task (Alt+F11) that runs the Folder Maintenance Centre. As for the corruption I'm not sure... but I'd run chkdsk to make sure there's no underlying problem with the disk. Folder maintenance has been very reliable for me on my POP3 accounts. IMAP is another matter but not such an issue since you can't loose your messages from corrupt TBB/TBI files. -- Best regards, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 The Bat! Version 3.0.0.14 Windows XP Professional 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Quote of the day: Minds are like parachutes; they only work when open. LORD DEWAR Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using Thawte Certificates
Hello Barry, On 14 September 2004, 16:30 Barry Wilkinson [BW] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BW Can anyone tell me how to use/import a Thawte Personal Freemail BW certificate into The Bat! for use BW with s/mime? BW The Thawte site only shows certs for IE, OE... not The Bat! If I recall correctly, I imported the X.509 certificate into my browser (Opera) by opening the link provided by Thawte with the issuing e-mail. Next step is to export this as a file to somewhere handy so you can get it into TB! For Opera, go into Tools - Preferences - Security - Manage certificates and click on Export. Now, open TB! and open Account... - Properties - Edit personal Certificates and import the file you've just saved. Is this is successful you will see the certificate. Now click Generate and type in the passphrase used when requesting the certificate. Of course, the certificate has little value until your name appears on it... you'll need either use the Web of Trust or remote authentication to change that. -- Best regards, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 The Bat! Version 3.0.0.14 Windows XP Professional 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Quote of the day: Example moves the world more than doctrine. HENRY MILLER Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: upgrading
Hello Sacksa, On 14 September 2004, 12:37 -0500 (18:37 local time) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [S] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: S 1. For me, what would I gain by upgrading to ver. 3.0? Only _you_ can answer that. Why not give Version 3.0 a test drive? But first make sure you've completely back up your current configuration - that goes for upgrading to SP2 too! -- Best regards, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 The Bat! Version 3.0.0.14 Windows XP Professional 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Quote of the day: Change is certain. Progress is not. E H CARR Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP
Hello Joe, On 14 September 2004, 15:00 -0400 (20:00 local time) Joe [J] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: J Why does the IMAP task stay in the connection manager even after J sync is complete. IT seem like a new sync will not take place until I J abort that task, then a new sync is done OK, however, the task is J left in the connection manager again. Have you checked When inactive, disconnect after n seconds/minutes in Account Properties - Mail management? If not, TB! is connected to the server even if there are no active tasks. J J Using The Bat! v3.0.0.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 J Service Pack 1 J Please include this information below the cut mark... thanks. -- Best regards, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 The Bat! Version 3.0.0.14 Windows XP Professional 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Quote of the day: You can do anything in this world if you are prepared to take the consequences. W SOMERSET MAUGHAM Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP account won't send
Hello Lynn, On 09 September 2004, 18:14 -0700 (09/09/200402:14 local time) Lynn [L] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: L Checking out v3 here, and have a really peculiar problem L with my IMAP account. It won't send mail about 3 out of L 5 sends, and when it fails, it doesn't even try .. that L is, I hit the send button, and it just sits there. It L doesn't even try. The account log doesn't show a send L effort, either. L The server is Dovecot, if that's any use at all ... and it L looks like mail comes in fine. Are you using a local or remote Sent Mail folder? -- Best regards, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 The Bat! Version 3.0.0.9 Windows XP Professional 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Quote of the day: If there are obstacles, the shortest line between two points may be a crooked one. BERTOLT BRECHT Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Meaning of these Smileys
Hello Michael, On 08 September 2004, 11:14 -0700 (08/09/200419:14 local time) Michael L. Wilson [MLW] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MLW In the book, Arthur Dent finds that answer to Life, The Universe and MLW Everything. The answer is 42. Oh no! You've spoilt the ending... -- Best regards, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 The Bat! Version 3.0.0.9 Windows XP Professional 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Quote of the day: What is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? ST MATTHEW 16:26 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smilies
Hello Kathy, On 06 September 2004, 15:11 -0400 (06/09/200420:11 local time) Kathy Dunham [KD] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: KD I know this is probably a silly question, but how does one use KD smilies? Sorry if this has been covered over and over, but I can't KD seem to find it within all of the thousands of messages :-) Right-click in the preview pane and check Smileys. -- Best regards, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 Quote of the day: I've learnt more from my failures than my successes. RICHARD BRANSON Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Pasted addresses disappear
Hello Michael, On 05 September 2004, 19:39 -0700 (05/09/200403:39 local time) Michael L. Wilson [MLW] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MLW Copy any address from a website or some other source. Paste it into MLW the address bar of The Bat and it will not be there. move the MLW cursor down a line and it appears Confirmed... applies to all header fields. Will you copy this to TBBETA? -- Best regards, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 Quote of the day: No matter how thin you slice it, there are always two sides. BARUCH SPINOZA Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP new mail sound?
Hello Matthijs, On 05 September 2004, 14:54 +0200 (05/09/200413:54 local time) Matthijs van Aalten [MVA] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MVA Except that when new mail arrives in my inbox, the sound is *not* MVA played. Silence is all I get. It's a bug or not implemented and has been reported on the beta list... not sure if a bug report is filed. -- Best regards, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 Quote of the day: The full area of ignorance is not yet mapped. We are at present only exploring the fringes. J D BERNARD Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Is there any way to search for a phrase in TheBat!
Hello Doug, On 03 September 2004, 21:13 Doug Weller [DW] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MAU Will you please open the Message Finder and click on the HELP button? MAU TB's HELP if far from perfect, but I can assure you it is _not_ blank. DW Nope, it's not blank. But you seem to see something there I don't. DW Here's the contents, please show me where it tells me how to find a DW phrase. I've also looked at the Regex help page before, which is DW useful. ,- | This is where you can type in what you are | looking for `- -- Best regards, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 Quote of the day: Mix a little foolishness with your serious plans; it's lovely to be silly at the right moment. HORACE, 65-8 BC Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Problem of privacy in TB ?
Hello Leif, On 11 August 2004, 09:29 -0600 (16:29 local time) Leif Gregory [LG] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: W I 've done a test with a self sent email, and I can see this header W ! My friend use TB to, but his mail I receive haven't his computer W name in header ! W What 's wrong with my TB ? LG It looks like you use your own SMTP server. I'd go through all the LG config info for your SMTP software, because that's where the problem LG is, not TB. Is this a problem? You can see my machines FQDN is the header but I wouldn't have thought that was a security breach. I've copied this to TBOT since it's not a TB! matter. -- As ever, Martin_Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.12.03 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Problem of privacy in TB ?
Hello Plan9, On 11 August 2004, 15:22 -0400 (20:22 local time) Plan9 [P] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin Is this a problem? You can see my machines FQDN is the header but I Martin wouldn't have thought that was a security breach. P I think what he is referring to is the name of the computer. See the P headers of this reply from me and notice that it is from brick the P name of my computer and then my IP. That's what I mean... my machine is called lagothrix and that's appended to the domain name. That's how mail finds it's way to me. What's the problem? P What if I had named my computer big and happened to be a P little or a lot risque not expecting my computer name to be inserted P into a mail message. :-D :-) -- As ever, Martin_Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.12.03 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 2.12.00 cannot handle multiple accounts?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED], On 14 July 2004, 16:15 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [A] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...snip A Anyone got any diagnostic suggestions? Are you using a software firewall? Did you register the new version with it? - -- As ever, Martin_Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.12.00 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQPVUmDknq5PWREYNEQK2QQCcCjwpWCSMY7fw3nm1ZOSrwUcHy34An1i2 ntWB+I1Gl5oyusvi3cTd8shc =V+BN -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New spammer technique?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED], On 13 July 2004, 14:49 -0400 (19:49 local time) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [JR] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: C2 Any training suggestions for BayesIt? JR IMHO, you don't need bayesit to defeat 99.9% of all spam. I JR rarely see a spam I don't use bayesit. That was really helpful... I use BayesIt. My advise is to keep on using it and simply mark those messages as spam whenever they're missed. Soon enough it'll pick them up. - -- As ever, :Martin_Webster: Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.12 RC/4 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQPQ4zzknq5PWREYNEQKq2gCg8V4Mev3l67uYZG/ukWeHMkIPjtQAoPLV vpMks6Zg+375nPRUnpxZ6/lo =xG+C -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to delete accounts?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Rick, On 13 July 2004, 17:13 -0400 (22:13 local time) Rick Friedman [RF] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RF Currently, I have three different e-mail accounts setup in The Bat! I RF want to eliminate one of the accounts but I can't find how to do it! RF Nothing within The Bat! seems to allow me to delete an account. I'm RF sure I must be wrong. RF What am I missing? Select the account in your account tree (the account name) and then use Account | Delete... You then have the option to retain the account files. - -- As ever, :Martin_Webster: Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.12 RC/4 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQPRSnjknq5PWREYNEQL5iQCfbNNos235KjnVrmsxUZGJev0+PCMAn0pj RV5VYxkvwNcZ6G/LaJ7a9WTD =ife5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Multiple users with separate log-in in windows XP
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Edgar, On 08 July 2004, 20:43 +0200 (08/07/200419:43 local time) Edgar van Dijk [EVD] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...snip EVD But when it is running it is an Unregistered version. EVD How can I set up the machine so that 2 people with separate log-in EVD names can both run TB! as an registered program? Reenter your registration details for the new account. That is, if your licence permits; e.g. Single-computer licence. Help | Enter Registration Code... - -- As ever, :Martin_Webster: Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.12 Beta/7 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQO2Z1jknq5PWREYNEQKK3gCfY0v6F9jYoffWu2nE1Xow/UiQPCYAoIqV FtJWtZBYopRO2OMjVdpeeiZR =DTQ4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Seeking confirmation of my interpretation of Key Nomenclature ...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello subscriber2list, On 30 June 2004, 18:54 -0400 (23:54 local time) subscriber2list [S] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...snip S Well, I will continue to search for specifics and resubmit my question S then. Sorry for any inconvenience ... hopefully, little. None caused... ask as many questions as you like. :-) S -- S Best regards, S subscriber2list BTW, don't forget to add a cut-mark in your signature... two dashes and a space followed by a return; i.e. -- . - -- As ever, :Martin_Webster: Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.12 Beta/1 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQOPBHDknq5PWREYNEQJNhQCg3cZ6YGp7FQo0BnZ2VOb17pTyT5cAn0n2 bSfTyAJaOuzOkDqhSLmtGwIb =/I6B -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Seeking confirmation of my interpretation of Key Nomenclature ...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello subscriber2list, On 30 June 2004, 14:33 -0400 (19:33 local time) subscriber2list [S] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: S I just want to confirm that I am interpreting commands that are S listed in various emails correctly, as I do try them, but lots of S times they don't work for me. LOL! What are you trying to do? S Shift+Ctrl+L - I interpret this to mean hold down Shift+Ctrl keys S and use L(eft arrow) CtrlShiftLeft arrow is how I'd write that. This closes a thread when message list is selected (same as CtrlShift-). It only works when you view messages by thread _and_ the message starts the thread or a branch (the [+] icon.) The same combination will move a folder left if the account tree is selected. CtrlShiftL toggles the log viewer (or whatever it's called) at the bottom of the main TB! window. S Shift+Ctrl+R - I interpret this to mean hold down Shift+Ctrl keys S and use R(ight arrow) As above, but will expand thread or indent a folder. I'm not aware that CtrlShiftR does anything. - -- As ever, :Martin_Webster: Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.12 Beta/1 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQOMwjTknq5PWREYNEQIi4gCfddJhVjTyR9oZSXV2mQvhcFybdB8AoKyS a6GHSE9DHtxl4PibPjbzY/ap =9KQd -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT: Martin gets trouted, read all about it.
Hello Leif, On 29 June 2004, 17:00 -0600 (29/06/200400:00 local time) Leif Gregory [LG] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LG Well, I searched high and low and just couldn't find a trout worthy LG of the moderators, so I decided to make one myself. You went the extra mile for me? That shows dedication... :-D LG I promised Martin the first Moderator Trout Smiley whether he deserved LG it or not, although I'm sure he's done something bad recently so it's LG probably all good. ...okay, I'm ready... B-) LG So here you go Martin You are the first to be trouted with the LG Moderator Trout. Smell the love! grin omg ... LG moderator LG :trout: Whack! :'( =] :vomit: LG Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not LG just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have LG instigated this reply. You *should* definitely feel singled out LG Martin. Thank you... I feel better now! ,:-) LG This thread is moving into the Off-Topic realm. Please continue this LG on TBOT (this message has been CC'd to the TBOT list to maintain LG threading.) I couldn't let TBUDL and TBBETA miss out could I? :-) -- Best regards, M :Martin_Webster: Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D Quote of the day: We don't see things as the are but rather as we are. ANAÏS NIN Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: finding unread messages in a partial read thread
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Max, On 29 June 2004, 22:25 +0200 (21:25 local time) Max Rydahl Andersen [MRA] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MRA Is there a way to distinguish actually unread messages from read MRA messages in a partial read thread ? MRA As it is now all messages down to the new unread message is marked MRA with bold and that makes it quite hard to find the new messages... MRA Any ideas ? You can move to the next unread message using CtrlRight arrow or alternatively expand the thread using Ctrl+... If there is an unread message in a thread all messages in that branch will appear bold. However, you can distinguish them from read messages by the unopened envelope (message flags). - -- As ever, :Martin_Webster: Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.12 Beta/1 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQOHURzknq5PWREYNEQJycwCggxvnFDfZrxJ0I+k+Kxy7vbQu/toAoPni SA+R9DUfyA50JNEL2S1c/zfd =ciSE -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: use of The Bat with Mac/Apple computers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Charles, On 26 June 2004, 01:54 +0200 (00:54 local time) Charles M. Gerungan [CMG] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MW The only application I can think of (that works with Windows and Mac) is MW Mulberry. CMG Did you ever ran Mulberry on a Mac? Not one Mac user will accept its UI. CMG Not even me, and I'm a techie. Their IMAP capabilities are up to par, CMG though. No, I've only tried it on Windows and that was to test its IMAP capabilities. I must admit I didn't like the UI either. Another suggestion... Opera 7.51? - -- As ever, :Martin_Webster: Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.12 Beta/1 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQN1Bbjknq5PWREYNEQJX+gCbBAqpOBIbfDoqGLWuPMnb2g+FItIAoPfX HM5aqyNgV6Xu4e1BdMnVFsj0 =rv55 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: use of The Bat with Mac/Apple computers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Charles, On 26 June 2004, 14:44 +0200 (13:44 local time) Charles M. Gerungan [CMG] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CMG Did you ever ran Mulberry on a Mac? Not one Mac user will accept its UI. CMG Not even me, and I'm a techie. Their IMAP capabilities are up to par, CMG though. MW No, I've only tried it on Windows and that was to test its IMAP MW capabilities. I must admit I didn't like the UI either. MW Another suggestion... Opera 7.51? CMG No. Apple Mail or Thunderbird. That's the best of them. That's your opinion. :-) Avi was looking for suggestions. - -- As ever, :Martin_Webster: Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.12 Beta/1 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQN16Zzknq5PWREYNEQIr+gCg7KVsWHzdTGoWasAJmgtwFJgDIC8AoPUl kQKFI5LQVN9tgrxtRUzyLS/O =Pxo1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: use of The Bat with Mac/Apple computers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Alex, On 25 June 2004, 15:08 -0400 (20:08 local time) Alex Ezell [AE] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...snip scc Otherwise, what do Mac/Apple users use for e-mail? I don't know either as I'm using The Bat! under Win98SE... :-) AE Typically, they use the Mail program that Apple includes in OS X for AE free. Or, they use Entourage which is what Microsoft calls its Outlook AE clone for Mac. I am the only PC user in an office of Macs and it is AE about 95% Mail/5% Entourage here. The only application I can think of (that works with Windows and Mac) is Mulberry. - -- As ever, :Martin_Webster: Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.12 Beta/1 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQNys+Dknq5PWREYNEQJilACeOinUftM4ftm7iAcUK68yBqDxs/cAoPhh QhR7hZiCuywfTndxkBG1RODc =abgm -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Background colors
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Lou, On 24 June 2004, 08:42 -0400 (13:42 local time) Lou Yovin [LY] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LY I am one of those who do not like html, so I just tell the viewer to do text. LY Other than the spammers who tell me I should get a better reader, I get along LY pretty well. Except for some email that has headers that force black on white. LY They always seem to contain something like: LY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 LY or LY Content-type: text/html; charset=utf-8 LY Is there some way to over ride this (to my choice of colors/font) in TheBat? Have you checked Options | Preferences... | Plain Text/MicroEd or HTML/Windows Editor? You can change default text/background there. Of course, this won't work with some HTML messages since the colours are set by the markup. - -- As ever, :Martin_Webster: Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.12 Beta/1 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQNsR1jknq5PWREYNEQK8rgCg+dvMKSVUn7O+dfXfeP/ob0rYow4An0dz lr4o1NCV8cGTbeAdOeJwYEeI =YtpV -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat Password?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Scott, On 22 June 2004, 16:17 +0930 (07:47 local time) Scott Sims [SS] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SS I am wondering if there is a way to set a password to access my Mail SS in The Bat? Either a way to set a password to access the program or a SS password to access each account..? SS Is there a way? Account | Set Access Password (Ctrl-F12.) Also, please use a signature delimiter: -- (dash dash space folowed by a return.) - -- As ever, :Martin_Webster: Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.12 Beta/1 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQNfk/Tknq5PWREYNEQLmbACguEOpP+9re7vwHGU71f+gsbGuTnUAoJeH +NW4EeWs5gBCwp5L+z7izKH6 =kx7S -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automatic snipping
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Tony, On 19 June 2004, 09:49 +0200 (08:49 local time) Tony [T] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: T When replying to a message the signature is automatically snipped. T Is there also a trick to do so for PGP signature blocks? I think there's a template on Marck's site: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBFAQ.html. - -- :Martin_Webster: Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.12 Beta/1 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQNQGzjknq5PWREYNEQLHzwCgvBLwhYo9xGHXMWcMqTe6elfYgykAoKWk 9kcEXSy2vv94l5fdfMEORSM+ =zwPH -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Downloading e-mail on to second computer
Hello Peter, On 18 June 2004, 02:01 +0200 (01:01 local time) Peter Ouwehand [PO] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...snip MW Windows XP warns you if you include a space in the share name; for MW example you wouldn't be able to access these shares from DOS. PO Such shares not being accessible by DOS is correct. But, really, who PO cares, I don't. My W2k does not warn about it (PC's on my network all PO run on W2k). I know NT4 warns you, but again, who cares about DOS these PO days?? It was the first MS-OS to support long (*NIX alike) PO directory/filenames. I think you would have the same problem with a Samba share. What you have works for you; that's okay. I was passing on best practice. Also, I'd be surprised if you can use hyper links to access network shares. MW I think you'll find it's the same for URI; you shouldn't include MW spaces in network resources. PO True for internet domain names. From the top of my head, not true for PO directory names, can't find the related RFC right now though. That's not what I was saying. \\SME\mp3 isn't a directory name it's a networking resource. That's why the UNC applies. PO Reviewing your original remark, we're getting off track here. Yep. I'll copy this to TBOT should you wish to continue the thread. PO Your comment was related to TB and windows shares like PO \\server\share. This is not internet related, which (very simply PO stated) uses protocol://server/dir/file. Look carefully; they're the same... using backslashes is a Windows thing. PO Just another remark: TB can't work with something like (windows) PO \\server\share to store mail bases. You'll need to use a mapped PO network drive for that. That's correct. -- As ever, :Martin_Webster: Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.12 Beta/1 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Downloading e-mail on to second computer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Thomas, On 18 June 2004, 01:37 +0700 (18/06/200419:37 local time) Thomas Fernandez [TF] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MW http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/the_bat_o.exe (unless you want MW to upgrade to version 2.) ^^^ TF Which version is that? I think it's 1.62. - -- As ever, :Martin_Webster: Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.12 Beta/1 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQNM8NTknq5PWREYNEQJYQgCeN6WbcDTrtMzvpPBJX4aUg7MRBjAAn3H/ jxq9kaDt0wRNnB6/HS1foztd =3u72 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Rogues Smilies (WAS: Re: Import from Outlook fails)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Mary, On 17 June 2004, 13:26 -0500 (19:26 local time) Mary Bull [MB] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LG Should I include logic in my code that would omit your own smiley from LG the Rogues.MSL when you click the box to create a new .ZIP file? Plan9 Nope. Not worth the effort and adds one more straw to the Plan9 logic camel's back. If I do not want to see my face or Plan9 someone else's I can just edit the msl file and comment it out. M I vote with Plan9. MB I vote with Plan9 and Maggie. Ditto... 3 0 (I'm happy) - -- As ever, :Martin_Webster: Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.12 Beta/1 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQNHlFDknq5PWREYNEQJD0gCcCCGoAXhHDMDfNbaSZnYr/ko0vwMAn0Co rc2LiIvNCqsllqCE5UwoJy3F =MoNa -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Import from Outlook fails
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Armin, On 17 June 2004, 13:08 +0200 (12:08 local time) Armin Mutscheller [AM] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AM I'm evaluating TB and would LOVE to use it as an alternative to Outlook, AM but for some reason I'm unable to import existing Outlook folders and AM messages. When I select an Outlook folder for import, TB starts working AM really hard and displays a progress bar. It also creates the respective AM folder structure in the file system, as well as in the Account pane, but AM when the import is complete all of these folders remain empty. The AM number of messages to import makes no difference. Apparently this AM behaviour occurs only when an MS Exchange server is present. On another AM system, with Outlook running as a stand-alone application, all Outlook AM folders are imported properly. I regularly migrate some of my work messages from Outlook to TB! However, all my Outlook folders are held in a .pst file. Whilst this works well you are best advised to close other applications; the process can be heavy on resources if you've a large .pst file. - -- As ever, :Martin_Webster: Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.12 Beta/1 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQNHqqzknq5PWREYNEQL+uACaAyHW1xHB0qfRg8xch/alo9jtPOsAn3cv 0Z9b221AQmipLKZNcv+XcyHU =SgnF -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Downloading e-mail on to second computer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED], On 17 June 2004, 14:18 -0500 (20:18 local time) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [S] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: S I posted this earlier this week, but since there hasn't been any response, S I thought I would try again. Way back in August 2003 I inquired about how S to set up The Bat on a laptop, download e-mail from the server, and, S eventually, transfer all of the downloaded e-mail to the pre-exising Bat S file on my desktop. Alie's response clued me in to synchronization. Well, S after 10 months, I am just getting around to setting up The Bat on the S laptop, and I am running into a problem in just trying to copy S the_bat_o.exe file to the laptop. When I run the setup file, I get the S following error message when I attempt to install The Bat to the S c:\program directory: cannot access directory \\DESKTOP\THE BAT!\MAI This sounds like a networking problem. I presume you posted your original message from your desktop PC on your home network; i.e. Windows XP? Please explain briefly how the network is set up as this will help. Also, where is thebat.exe located; i.e the installer? S In place of the word desktop is the name that I assigned to the desktop S computer on our in-home network. S Why would it try to access the desktop? And, even though a Bat S subdirectory was created within the program directory, when I attempt to S click on the bat.exe file, I get the same error message. Why? Is this a S network problem or is it a problem with the way in which I configured The S Bat? You will have to setup a workgroup for your network; e.g. MSHOME. And in the workgroup you have at least two computers: DESKTOP and LAPTOP. If you share a folder called 'THE_BAT!' (in My Documents) it will be known as \\DESKTOP\THE_BAT! on your network. You need to copy the installer (thebat.exe) to this folder. Note: shares cannot have spaces in their name. Now, from your laptop you need to open 'My Network Places'. If you've set up the network correctly you will see a folder called 'THE_BAT! on DESKTOP' (or similar). Open the folder and copy thebat.exe to a folder on your laptop. Now you should be able to run the installer without problem. If you can't copy the file across... there's a network problem that needs sorting first. - -- As ever, :Martin_Webster: Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.12 Beta/1 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQNH7KTknq5PWREYNEQJ5agCfWEYavJEH9MSj+z5aUR+1aF2RXTEAmwUe dX9E+SCx8eb5H6ObD/F3f+Dl =F3fN -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Downloading e-mail on to second computer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED], On 17 June 2004, 15:34 -0500 (21:34 local time) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [S] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This sounds like a networking problem. I presume you posted your original message from your desktop PC on your home network; i.e. Windows XP? S Yes. I originally posted from the desktop PC. Both the desktop and the S laptop use XP Pro. Please explain briefly how the network is set up as this will help. S Cable from outside feeds into modem, which, in turn, feeds into Linksys 4 S port, wireless router. Desktop is connected via CAT5 cable to router. S Laptop can be connected to router either via CAT5 cable or Dell Truemobile S wireless card. I almost always use the wireless card. Also, where is thebat.exe located; i.e the installer? S Thebat.exe is located in The Bat subdirectoy of the program directory. (I S think!) I will try your suggestions, but, unfortunately, it will have to S wait as the desktop is fully dismantled due to a flood in our basement S office and it (the desktop) does not have wireless capability. I expect S the desktop to be back up and running in about two weeks. In the meantime, S I can access TBUDL through other channels. The file in the program directory isn't the installer. You will probably have to download that again... http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/the_bat_o.exe (unless you want to upgrade to version 2.) Since your laptop has direct access to the Internet via your router you may as well download it to your laptop's desktop and install from there. - -- As ever, :Martin_Webster: Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.12 Beta/1 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQNIEbjknq5PWREYNEQKHxgCfdfBr8+Ns9m7qLsy7ifSc4bOTgYkAoIGf A0mI50lzQZ6yKaenawtOkJVZ =ZiCS -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Downloading e-mail on to second computer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Peter, On 17 June 2004, 22:53 +0200 (21:53 local time) Peter Ouwehand [PO] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MW Note: shares cannot have spaces in their name. PO Are you sure? I've been using shares with spaces in their name for PO years. Yes, I think so... the shared folder may be called 'Shared Documents' on your PC but the share would have to be named 'SharedDocs' of whatever with no spaces. However, folders in the share can have spaces; e.g. \\SME\mp3\Rush\Rush - A Farewell To Kings. This follows the uniform naming convection (UNC). - -- As ever, :Martin_Webster: Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.12 Beta/1 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQNII3Tknq5PWREYNEQIY5gCg80l8VG64aUaw3G9RgdGuiL0uCi0An1Du hSBAi+gQze8tRoAI1ol+0AT2 =Jlji -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Downloading e-mail on to second computer
Hello Peter, On 17 June 2004, 23:39 +0200 (22:39 local time) Peter Ouwehand [PO] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MW Yes, I think so... the shared folder may be called 'Shared Documents' on MW your PC but the share would have to be named 'SharedDocs' of whatever MW with no spaces. However, folders in the share can have spaces; e.g. MW \\SME\mp3\Rush\Rush - A Farewell To Kings. MW This follows the uniform naming convection (UNC). PO Have a look at http://ouwehand.net/~thebat/w2k-shares/ Then your shares would not be accessible universally. Windows XP warns you if you include a space in the share name; for example you wouldn't be able to access these shares from DOS. I think you'll find it's the same for URI; you shouldn't include spaces in network resources. -- As ever, :Martin_Webster: Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.12 Beta/1 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) pgpNzMk39prR3.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quoting in Forward
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello ken, On 16 June 2004, 18:36 -0500 (16/06/200400:36 local time) ken green [KG] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: KG I'm not completely sure what I was doing, but I seem to have gotten KG everything working now. Pleased to hear that. :-) - -- As ever, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.12 Beta/1 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQM/60Dknq5PWREYNEQIPqwCgx5O+ZY85MAzHymitSD4q+/EPeCcAn2rX 6FtjumiNK0LwYOHIJWiPL2bh =49kq -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Xandros, Crossover and TheBat
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello SL, On 16 June 2004, 03:53 +1000 (16/06/200418:53 local time) SL [S] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: S I was intrigued by a throw away line by Thomas... who mentioned he S might go for Xandros instead of upgrading to Win XP? (I am running S Win 98 on a Pentium III machine a few...or several...years old...) ...snip S With Crossover in Xandros...does this mean you can use TheBat?? How S well will it run? It works... but not to an acceptable standard. I tried it yesterday with Xandros Open Circulation Edition and CodeWeavers CrossOver 30 day trial. The biggest problem I came across was with the toolbars; they were illegible and would dock into the main window. S I am also wondering about other hardware/software..eg can iPod be used S in Xandros? (i use iPod as an external drive to backup data from my S work Win XP machine...OK!..I use it for music too! ;-)...but was S annoyed that it doesn't work with Win 98... I hate that! (Built S in obsolescence) Oops!... a bit off topic... Xandros is quite impressive. It detected all my hardware correctly without any user intervention. It's certainly worth checking now there's a freely available version. However, if you have invested time and money with native Windows applications your best bet is to upgrade to Windows XP. ...snip I've copied this to TBOT should you wish to continue the discussion. - -- As ever, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.12 Beta/1 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA+AwUBQNDFXTknq5PWREYNEQLZdwCeLGZm0YPxp8aP6T0Cp72Fr6QFZOwAl3/1 z+YV2JjhNxMgM4oDfvBZ51s= =1E3u -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: serial number and checksum for TheBat
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello SL, On 15 June 2004, 17:46 +1000 (08:46 local time) SL [S] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: S So..how do you get around this ..if you do a clean/new instal, you S have your serial number...but no other data?? You can't. You really should keep the original message for future reference, print it and keep it somewhere safe, or use a utility like PINs to keep registration information safe. S I have a feeling this has been discussed before, but... Yes, 16/05/2004. You'll have to contact Ritlabs about a new key... see http://www.ritlabs.com/en/about/contacts.php for details. - -- As ever, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.11.04 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQM8eMDknq5PWREYNEQLdOgCg/KQMPFEQuLqiY590+f6adJ/MYfYAoPak XTUvE+Mfm/rTl4SK7P7kfRuN =lxRm -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quoting in Forward
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello ken, On 15 June 2004, 15:27 -0500 (21:27 local time) ken green [KG] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: KG I don't recall how many versions I have noticed this, but it's grown KG annoying enough to post here. When I forward a message, TB insists on KG *quoting* the message (preceding each line with ) AND using the KG forward template I have set up. Just to confirm... are you saying you see the original message quoted _and_ again repeated by your forward template? My forward template works correctly and is essentially the same as yours. The only difference is you use a quick template for you signature. What happens if you remove '%QINCLUDE=kmgsig'? ,- | Hello %CAPITALFIRST='%TOFNAME', | | %CURSOR | | | -- | My signature etc. incl. PGP options | - Original Message - | From: %OFromName %OFromAddr | To: %OToList | Date: %ODateEn, %OTimeLongEn | Subject: %OSubj | | %Text `- ...snip - -- As ever, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.12 Beta/1 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQM9wqzknq5PWREYNEQLa9ACg3D8FNI3V1nfNXe2oesghRZL0YiQAoMQO PVsZeGJZbReG1a2tLH3VWuzt =0+RO -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! attachment display settings?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Mary, MB Yes. And I want to say here, as near the top of my post as I can and MB still make sense: You Are Right. What you suggested did work, and it MB was the .tmp files that were messing things up for me. Pleased to see you got it sorted! :-) :42: - -- As ever, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.11.03 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQMrbsDknq5PWREYNEQLV8wCfbBTH5tRTmmRvk+6tqJoPs+vjYPoAn3So 8cIRKBpDQqeGk2LbFjn+pIfA =oMjQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to use PGP/MIME
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Charles, On 11 June 2004, 15:04 +0200 (14:04 local time) Charles M. Gerungan [CMG] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CMG I'm trying to get the PGP signature as an attachment, but how do I do CMG that? When I select PGP/MIME TheBat! tells me that there is no CMG certificate. Have you installed PGP Freeware (or similar), created your public/private keys, and set the correct PGP version in TB!? - -- As ever, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.11.03 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQMozujknq5PWREYNEQLD+gCfcKatbBBgcsyWYvYZPgUeHsOzef0AoI0r qb4XNiS8GQforCIvcaF2lu9s =I08C -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Move Attachment Pane in Editor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Mike, On 10 June 2004, 19:07 -0700 (10/06/200403:07 local time) Mike Dillinger [MD] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MD Can you move the attachment pane in editing mode? I see how to move it MD while viewing, but not editing. I looked for this some time ago. It's not there. :-( I'd support a wish. - -- As ever, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.11.03 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQMiM3jknq5PWREYNEQKFHACgqAo1buUpPGxWICzbHCLSCTcBqM0An1OX VhPCYaeYABZcMErTbP5PXur5 =2hjp -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View mode, sorted by and sub sorted
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Ben, On 09 June 2004, 00:33 Ben Allen [BA] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin Oldest message begins thread - see Options | Preferences | Martin Messages subject/from/to. However, I get what you want when Martin threading by reference. BA Sorry i wasn't clear. I do thread by reference. i then sort the BA threads by subject. what i am trying to do is get the oldest message BA at the top what i seem to be getting is that whilst the first message BA will be a the the bottom of the thread tree, it will then go to the BA newest - oldest in the tree from that, i want it the opposite way and BA i cant seem to do that, the option you suggested is already checked. BA You as confused as me? Yes, a little. If you thread by reference the option I suggested is redundant... it's for threading by Subject/From/To only. I simply thread by reference and display the message list by received date in descending order. I'm not sure what you mean by 'sorting' the threads. For instance, this thread is displayed toward the bottom of my message list in the following order: View mode... 8 June 2004, 23:50 Re: View mode... 8 June 2004, 23:59 Re[2]: View mode... 07:45 (today) Is that how you want to display threads? - -- As ever, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.11.03 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQMbAIzknq5PWREYNEQKCxgCgg3cwiA571AygWKqXa4tCMnwY/GgAnjGC MCYsx+/MNipCTZbO4jykH0hN =X5Cr -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! attachment display settings?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Mary, On 09 June 2004, 09:37 -0500 (09/06/200415:37 local time) Mary Bull [MB] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MB Attachments received stopped displaying for me in TB! v. 2.00.6 MB yesterday. I had changed no settings. There had been no problems with MB a double-click for jpegs and docs previously, or with the right-click MB Open menu choice. ...snip MB Can anyone help me fix this? Much appreciation in advance! Just a suggestion... right-click in the image pane and click on 'View | Hide (to Button)'. Now click on the new attachment button and see if the default action is 'Open'. You could try changing the settings before returning back to the image pane view; i.e. Hide (to Pane). - -- As ever, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.11.03 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQMcyKDknq5PWREYNEQIPXACaAg/FwzAwZx+wXlb3yaoAMLtAvokAoKAs ypV7DtlICZSVYKAua2bRt/aB =dLhG -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View mode, sorted by and sub sorted
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Ben, On 09 June 2004, 20:01 Ben Allen [BA] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BA This is how usually my messages display yes That's because the messages are threaded by reference and in the case of this thread it's a bit like a daisy chain. BA however sometimes if there are two replies to a particular message BA then the newest one will appear before the older msg. eg: BA View mode... 8 June 2004, 23:50 BARe: View mode... 8 June 2004, 23:59 BA new msg--- Re: View Mode... 07:50 (today) BA Re[2]: View mode... 07:45 (today) I can't see how this can happen if you sort by time received... BA What i want to achieve is that message coming in below its older BA counterpart Moreover, I can't say I've really noticed that or consider it a problem since you can still follow the thread. When the discussion forks further replies will reference to the correct message. For example, see Mary's post: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. This is what I see (threads sorted by reference/time received): Author Received Kludges Adjusted (GMT) Order created Feli16:32 16:55:14 +0200 14:55 1 Martin 16:57 16:52:04 +0100 15:52 3 Urban 17:36 17:20:29 +0200 15:20 2 This is correct when sorting by time received. To display messages in the order you want use time created. If you're still experiencing problems and are convinced the ordering is incorrect send me a screen shot. - -- As ever, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.11.03 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQMduzzknq5PWREYNEQKBewCbBNgaeCTdJuP30Su+eRMe8HpW5Z0AoMds afLp7UMJmo25eKVWG9M2a0Pi =JtJm -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: %THEBATVERSION Extension
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello rich, On 09 June 2004, 16:45 -0400 (09/06/200421:45 local time) rich gregory [RG] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RG Is there a document that itemizes each and every release and what it RG is supposed to have fixed? Yes, readme.txt, which you will find in your TB! installation folder. [ + Added feature] [ * Improved/changed feature ] [ - Bug fixed (we hope) ] - -- As ever, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.11.03 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQMd4KTknq5PWREYNEQK3CgCffxvKVy2M/4KOKiAmSByVRd2H+TAAoJxY PrC0+IOfym7xE+jT6RnKSnK2 =xvSg -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! attachment display settings?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Mary, On 09 June 2004, 15:51 -0500 (09/06/200421:51 local time) Mary Bull [MB] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MW Do you see the image in one of the tabbed panes; e.g. Clipbrd1.gif? MB No. That's does seem rather odd. How about tabs such as Part.txt? (take any signed message from me in TBBETA) MW Also, do you see the following in Options | Preferences | Protection? ...snip MB Yes. I'm going to look into this a bit more since changing it made no difference to my set up. MW This is from the registry key: MW ProtectAllowOpen=*.JPG,*.JPEG,*.PNG,*.GIF,*.BMP,*.ICO,*.WMF,*.EMF,*.VCF,*.EML,*.MSG,*.ARJ,*.ZIP,*.RAR,*.TIF,*.ACE,*.LZH,*.WAV MB I can't find this key in my registry. But surely it is there since I MB have the file names in Options/Preferences/Protection. I opened MB everything in the registry I could see under HKey/Current MB User/Software/Rit/The Bat!. Didn't find that key. Strange. It's in my setup _but_ I did import my registry setting when I rebuild XP a few months ago so it could be redundant. I can send you that key if you like. MW I decided to remove *.GIF from my list (and subsequently the registry) MW to see if I could emulate your problem. Guess what? I can still open GIF MW files without a warning. MB These are .jpg files, mostly. When I save them to Desktop, they come MB up with a Gimp icon. (I have the Gimp program, but I don't recall MB associating Save to Desktop with it. Probably did and then forgot.) I chose .gif simply because I could see one in my message list. Nonetheless, I don't think it's a program association problem as this is about TB! internal protection mechanisms. MB So what if I emptied the fields for both Enable and Disable under MB Protection? Would that be safe to do? I could save a copy of them and MB put it back afterward. MB What do you think? I shouldn't be a problem so long as you know that you are opening images only. I'm going to give this a try too. - -- As ever, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.11.03 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQMd9tjknq5PWREYNEQIecwCfRVqZDMOpgAlmNbjEtMIK6tqzzm8AoMBZ 2+s03PGMzeySXEFv+4W1WLRq =XCCX -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! attachment display settings?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Mary, On 09 June 2004, 22:14 Martin Webster [MW] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...snip MB What do you think? I given a little more thought and wonder if you've set the 'Use external viewer...' option in Preferences | General. Also, the registry key is relevant _but_ the inclusion of image types doesn't prevent TB! from opening the file with its internal viewer _only_ an external viewer, which leads me to suggest you have opted for an external viewer. If this is the case it could be a file association problem after all. - -- As ever, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.11.03 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQMeBYTknq5PWREYNEQI0xACg90XGgVbH/KI00kS/zkL6vodWevYAoJ+B TI6o9FFV4vcuJBO9FqvEjK/s =VmZR -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! attachment display settings?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Mary, On 09 June 2004, 22:30 Martin Webster [MW] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MW I given a little more thought and wonder if you've set the 'Use external MW viewer...' option in Preferences | General. MW Also, the registry key is relevant _but_ the inclusion of image types MW doesn't prevent TB! from opening the file with its internal viewer MW _only_ an external viewer, which leads me to suggest you have opted for MW an external viewer. If this is the case it could be a file association MW problem after all. Okay, I've chosen external image viewer and removed a file association in Windows to see what happens. When I double click on an icon, TB! lets Windows decide how to open the file. However, because there is no association TB! pops up a windows asking what application I should open the file (image) with. Clearly, this isn't quite what you experience but it is similar behaviour. I wonder what would happen if there is an association but it's broken and fails to launch the application? Check what application is associated with .JPG by opening a Windows file manager window and using Tools | Folder Options... | File Types. Select JPG (or JPEG) and see what application opens the file (Change button). There's is likely to be a couple of applications... try changing it to Window Picture and Fax Viewer if that's not set. - -- As ever, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.11.03 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQMeFMzknq5PWREYNEQKk9ACgiLv3Oy7Wh8F0xdtmSI3hLagS1WgAoK8z KA68iAjXakF2zl7P4Jym4ZIe =/hul -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! attachment display settings?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Mary, On 09 June 2004, 17:16 -0500 (09/06/200423:16 local time) Mary Bull [MB] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...snip MB What a drag! I do appreciate all your help. And I can still view all MB attachments by saving them to Desktop, which is only a couple of extra MB clicks to do. I've been dragging them from there into my Picture File MB folder. How disappointing... I thought we were onto something. :-) MB Well, we have to check out all possibilities if a puzzle is to get MB solved, don't we? Not that it will guarantee a solution. :) Anyway, MB :42: and thanks again for all the help this afternoon and always!! Your welcome! Now I think the problem _must_ be with your TB! installation. The only thing I can suggest now is to reinstall TB! over the top of your current set up. This won't modify any of your settings (filters, colour groups etc.) but may replace something that's gone awry. I'll call it a day now... it's 11:30 pm here. - -- As ever, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.11.03 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQMeOLzknq5PWREYNEQJi2QCgl+SooPtpyaMrK98y3ck8oD6H+EcAnR5S matTmUKZVhsjC/xMLAauyR2K =1kFz -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: lost key and checksum codes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello David, On 08 June 2004, 13:43 +1000 (08/06/200404:43 local time) David Boggon [DB] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DB Is anyone aware how to get these codes back electronically, either DB from RitLabs or from my hard drive? See http://www.ritlabs.com/en/about/contacts.php. - -- As ever, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.11.03 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQMWrjjknq5PWREYNEQJQDgCgtOlfbc0+Nf45xfpBb6/aN/hRV5sAni2J O2YOKsksbn3KZcuoiIrcFWJV =itpm -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Word wrapping
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Simon, On 08 June 2004, 11:45 Simon Elliott [SE] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SE When I'm using the message editor, I find that I have to keep on SE doing Utilities-Format Block-Left (or Alt-L) to keep my paragraphs SE correctly wrapped and justified. Is there any mode where word SE wrapping happens on an ongoing basis as happens in many word SE processors and text editors? What's your 'Wrap text to' option set to? (Options | Preferences | Editor preferences)... and what editor do you use? If you're using MicroEd there's another setting for 'Auto-wrap' that needs to be checked. - -- As ever, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.11.03 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQMXjtDknq5PWREYNEQLzRACgti8O18TV+uZ2F2h5VjKuewDOWREAoPJc UpYWDQJz8T1+8GIgzAjtI9Ww =pnYu -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mail Filtering
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Duane, On 08 June 2004, 13:48 -0400 (08/06/200418:48 local time) Duane Lambe [DL] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DL Hi - I've just picked up The Bat! (whatever version's current), and DL jumped on this mailing list to help me get into the interface, etc. Welcome! :-) ...snip DL For the account, I've gone to Incoming Mail, made a new filter, and DL under Filtering Strings, I've entered the following: DL Strings Location Presence DL Reply-to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Kludges Yes I'd use Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and not worry about the regular expressions. DL Will this work on an IMAP box, and if so, what have I missed? It should do... IMAP support is _temperamental_ but improving. Just shout if you have any problems. If you're happy using beta versions I recommend you getting your hands on 2.11.03 (you're probably using 2.11.02) as it has much improved IMAP support. - -- As ever, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.11.03 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQMYCBjknq5PWREYNEQJl/ACgm8Y+YLl62NNaAUmD9Bz9Hi+/yxAAoNpx YQEBkqNzt4RMHKioCqeXW8So =qEPV -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mail Filtering
Hello Chris, On 08 June 2004, 20:09 Chris Weaven [CW] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MW If you're happy using beta versions I recommend you getting your MW hands on 2.11.03 (you're probably using 2.11.02) as it has much MW improved IMAP support. CW Sorry to jump in here, but what is the improved IMAP support? It's working _much_ more reliably in just about every aspect. There are problems still but it's usable. CW All I've seen is that is has an 'IMAP requests watcher'. That's to help identify problems... which it has. CW If there's more than this on the IMAP side, let me know as I keen to CW 'test' IMAP support! Please join in! :-) -- As ever, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.11.03 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) pgpEL4TXLpdOR.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mail Filtering
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Duane, On 08 June 2004, 16:33 -0400 (08/06/200421:33 local time) Duane Lambe [DL] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MW I'd use Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and not worry about the MW regular expressions. DL Did as much, but I can't seem to get it to work... I /did/ put a space DL after the colon - not sure that that should be in there or not. That's correct; press F9 to see for yourself in the message source. DL Also, I'm IMAP-ping an Exchange box - I don't think that should make a DL difference (it might), but I've been noticing some odd behaviour on this DL server/account... like now, I can't seem to read any old (still DL visible, but read) messages in that folder. Every message in the Inbox DL shows as one particular email, no matter which one I select. New DL messages don't exhibit this this behaviour, like the mail coming in DL from this list, for instance. I think there was a discussion about the problems with Exchange and IMAP last month. However, I didn't watch that thread. Maybe someone else can help? MW If you're happy using beta versions I recommend you getting your hands MW on 2.11.03 (you're probably using 2.11.02) as it has much improved IMAP MW support. DL I didn't see a location to download this off the main site (my About DL box just says 2.11). Trouble you for a link? :) See http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/body.html#tbbeta for information about beta testing and the beta list. - -- As ever, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.11.03 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQMY42Dknq5PWREYNEQKZRwCdEm0l717vKusHN/wR5hXKveWH7yoAn3rC vF9qTF39Uhe0+l+IVUCExmX/ =13JK -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Cut mark (was: Mail Filtering)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Leif, On 08 June 2004, 15:46 -0600 (08/06/200422:46 local time) Leif Gregory [LG] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LG A ma!!! You were doing so good.. What'd you do with your LG cut-mark / sig delimiter? I could see that one coming! ='( - -- As ever, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.11.03 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQMY/Ujknq5PWREYNEQJUTACg9mwp4RyIWFJwSzf5/El3Qx9/vBcAmgNO fqhb9fOgRa6oVXpjP8k1F9gU =0E4y -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View mode, sorted by and sub sorted
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Ben, On 08 June 2004, 23:47 Ben lineone [BL] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BL And what i want to set up is: BL received BL thread subject A - - msgA 10:00 BL | - msgB 10:10 BL | - msgC 10:20 BL Currently i can only achieve this manually... I think i have just BL missed something obvious but for the life of me i can't figure out BL what. Oldest message begins thread - see Options | Preferences | Messages subject/from/to. However, I get what you want when threading by reference. - -- As ever, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.11.03 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQMZEUzknq5PWREYNEQJ7MwCg/tWlzss36URW03YVDQq3GK7kDykAoLP2 0ijJDfJUd2hTu/fQ9sKSSSpZ =HYc0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The bat and kapersky AV
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Stuart, On 07 June 2004, 15:19 -0500 (07/06/200421:19 local time) Stuart Cuddy [SC] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SC Is it July in France already. It's like France in July here today! B-) - -- As ever, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.11.03 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQMTWODknq5PWREYNEQJ3bACg48n2bKh1ehiiHIQn3aUx/LX912IAn0wG y4LoE0oT7vvB9Cn7/P9Lpqzn =Mxsq -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New Key Checksum codes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Melissa, On 07 June 2004, 13:29 -0700 (07/06/200421:29 local time) Melissa Reese [MR] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do I have to do to get new codes? Do I have to actually purchase TB! again? MR Yes. There was a period of time when users of v1.x could get a MR substantial discount when upgrading to v2.x. The new version has been MR available for a while now, so I think that discount offer is no longer MR in effect. There are some offers on at the moment if you're upgrading 1.x... $17.50 student, $24.50 personal and $31.50 business. The offer should have ended 1 June but it still shows... maybe if you're quick? - -- As ever, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.11.03 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQMTawzknq5PWREYNEQKrFwCfadPT1FMOmcxmjllXNqKiho0c9oAAoNED 274Vealb7If6L9vksNXtVmSF =uV3y -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys? Mail Chat?? What's becoming of The Bat!?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Urban, On 05 June 2004, 03:26 +0200 (05/06/200402:26 local time) Urban [U] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: U Not just the standard ones, and that is what is so wrong. There should U at least be a warning upon sending of messages containing the U non-standard ones that they may not come out right in the viewer's mail U client. Maybe asking to send as HTML (yuck) instead so that the receiver U can read the mail the way the sender intended it. I think there is some confusion about smileys... nothing has changed in regard to sending messages. TB! will send exactly what you write. It does not send images. If you prefer not to use 'traditional' text smileys that's fine. If you prefer not to use the 'alternate' smileys that's fine. You see, it's up to you. And usually when writing a message you have a good idea who your intended audience is and if they will appreciate your smileys. - -- As ever, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.11.02 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQMGXWTknq5PWREYNEQJMKACfaFNO24hQQzuXieMBIhY5DNsQ3tcAn22b jzytewWB9BIoDqP6ORJBJd7W =j30B -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
