Re: [Tex-music] Problems with PDF output

2022-11-21 Thread Christian Mondrup

Den 21.11.2022 kl. 18.27 skrev Christian Mondrup:

Den 19.11.2022 kl. 20.49 skrev Christian Mondrup:

Den 19.11.2022 kl. 20.41 skrev Rodolfo Medina:

On Sat, Nov 19, 2022 at 7:05 PM Christian Mondrup
 wrote:


Den 19.11.2022 kl. 19.43 skrev Bob Tennent:

Produces good output here.  Maybe your dvips binary is corrupt?


I can reproduce the error on my linux Mint 20 station. I have tex
installed from tug TexLive rather than from Mint package repository


What do you people suggest?



Did you try 'musixtex -p bach-bwv847prel_fug#2.pmx' ?

ie. direct tex-pdf (pdftex etc)


Works perfectly with Rodolofo's pmx file on my Mint 20 pc.


But I do get an erroneous postscript file if I process the pmx file the 
traditional way:


pmab  etex  musixflx  etex  dvips 

The dvi file appears corrupted when viewed with evince but is OK when 
viewed with xdvi


The postscript result also appears erroneous when viewed with the Ocular 
document viewer. See the attached sceenshot




I have texlive-22 installed from TUG, not from Mint deb package repository.

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Re: [Tex-music] Problems with PDF output

2022-11-21 Thread Christian Mondrup

Den 19.11.2022 kl. 20.49 skrev Christian Mondrup:

Den 19.11.2022 kl. 20.41 skrev Rodolfo Medina:

On Sat, Nov 19, 2022 at 7:05 PM Christian Mondrup
 wrote:


Den 19.11.2022 kl. 19.43 skrev Bob Tennent:

Produces good output here.  Maybe your dvips binary is corrupt?


I can reproduce the error on my linux Mint 20 station. I have tex
installed from tug TexLive rather than from Mint package repository


What do you people suggest?



Did you try 'musixtex -p bach-bwv847prel_fug#2.pmx' ?

ie. direct tex-pdf (pdftex etc)


Works perfectly with Rodolofo's pmx file on my Mint 20 pc.

I have texlive-22 installed from TUG, not from Mint deb package repository.

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Re: [Tex-music] Problems with PDF output

2022-11-19 Thread Christian Mondrup

Den 19.11.2022 kl. 20.41 skrev Rodolfo Medina:

On Sat, Nov 19, 2022 at 7:05 PM Christian Mondrup
 wrote:


Den 19.11.2022 kl. 19.43 skrev Bob Tennent:

Produces good output here.  Maybe your dvips binary is corrupt?


I can reproduce the error on my linux Mint 20 station. I have tex
installed from tug TexLive rather than from Mint package repository


What do you people suggest?



Did you try 'musixtex -p bach-bwv847prel_fug#2.pmx' ?

ie. direct tex-pdf (pdftex etc)
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Re: [Tex-music] Problems with PDF output

2022-11-19 Thread Christian Mondrup

Den 19.11.2022 kl. 19.43 skrev Bob Tennent:

Produces good output here.  Maybe your dvips binary is corrupt?


I can reproduce the error on my linux Mint 20 station. I have tex 
installed from tug TexLive rather than from Mint package repository


dvips bach-bwv847prel_fug#2.dvi

This is dvips(k) 2022.1 (TeX Live 2022)  Copyright 2022 Radical Eye 
Software (www.radicaleye.com)

' TeX output 2022.11.19:1817' -> bach-bwv847prel_fug#2.ps



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Re: [Tex-music] Problems with PDF output

2022-11-19 Thread Christian Mondrup

Den 19.11.2022 kl. 18.27 skrev Rodolfo Medina:

On Sat, Nov 19, 2022 at 5:04 PM Rodolfo Medina  wrote:


On Sat, Nov 19, 2022 at 4:39 PM Bob Tennent  wrote:


That seems to date from 2015.  Try installing from https://ctan.org/pkg/pmx
or http://icking-music-archive.org/software/pmx/pmx-2.98a.zip.

Bob T.


Thanks, I'm installing it, but I'm afraid the problem is not in the
pmxab step but in the dvips step


In fact, after installing PMX from Ctan, the problem remains.


just a guess: you may be using an older version of musixflx. The current 
up-to-date version is a lua script, older versions were programmed in c


In a shell window say 'which musixflx' and then check this binary: 'less 
/musixflx


At the top of the binary you should see something like

#!/usr/bin/env texlua

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Re: [Tex-music] Dirk Laurie

2022-07-28 Thread Christian Mondrup

Den 28.07.2022 kl. 14.37 skrev Bob Tennent:

The following announcement may be of interest:

https://www.sun.ac.za/english/Lists/news/DispForm.aspx?ID=6628 
<https://www.sun.ac.za/english/Lists/news/DispForm.aspx?ID=6628>




The last time I was in email contact with Dirk was March 2019. I was
preparing a revision of one of my M-Tx engravings. As so often before I
got the help I needed.


M-Tx isn't mentioned explicitly but his interests were said to
include "music (choir singing, playing the recorder, and aficionado
in general)".

The current form of the musixtex.lua script is very much due to
Dirk's extensive development of and improvement to the rudimentary
script I had produced.


I believe to remember an email correspondance in which Dirk considered
rewriting M-Tx in luatex. Unfortinately those emails are (no longer) in
my archive.

In my working years as developer I was scripting databases and never got
comfortable with C-, Pascal- etc. programming. So I can't offer to take
over the maintenance of M-Tx. But from my decades long experience with
another open source engraving facility, MUP (http://www.arkkra.com/)
I'll recommend it as a highly qualified alternative to M-Tx.

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Re: [Tex-music] Uploading to IMSLP?????

2022-01-21 Thread Christian Mondrup

Den 20.01.2022 kl. 19.49 skrev dsim...@roadrunner.com:
Wonder of wonders, the 6 files now appear to be publicly accessible. 
Somehow, the two tabs (“Scores” and “Parts”) have now been combined into 
one (“Scores and Parts”). 


That's because IMSLP staff member Sallen112 has done his approval job 
and besides post-edited the work page


And the first main header under that one tab 
is misleading: it says “Complete” while all it contains is harpsichord 
parts (in facsimile). I suppose it is a complete set of harpsichord 
parts, but still…


In the context of a collection like this the IMSLP term 'Complete' 
denotes, that all the suites and concertos of the collection are 
included. The two next sections include convertos and suites only.


To be safe, I’ll try to wait a day or 2 before announcing the upload to 
all of my flute- and harpsichord-playing friends. I do feel pretty good 
about making these unusual pieces available.


As soon as the 'waiting for approval' IMSLP mark has been removed you 
may safely announce your contribution to your friends.


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Re: [Tex-music] Uploading to IMSLP?????

2022-01-20 Thread Christian Mondrup

Den 20.01.2022 kl. 03.01 skrev Bob Tennent:
The warning is to not upload /new/ scores.  The section for uploading a 
new version is half-way down on that page


I fixed the page.



I admit that the IMSLP editing facilities are not particularly user 
friendly. However, IMSLP was the only qualified alternative when I, 
around 2010, realized that I'd never manage to establish a sustainable 
editorial community around WIMA. I had ideas then to a database driven, 
and maybe a bit more intuitive user interface.


That's history. And I've accustomed myself to IMSLP's Wikipedian 
interface. So Don, if/when you encounter new problems I'll be happy to 
be there with a helping hand like Bob and Jean-Pierre.


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Re: [Tex-music] Uploading to IMSLP?????

2021-12-28 Thread Christian Mondrup

Den 28.12.2021 kl. 13.37 skrev Bob Tennent:
IMSLP may decide that the score+parts for the individual concerts should 
be located in separate pages as they are not really organized as a 
"collection".  But then there should be links to those concert pages in 
the General Information section. An arrangement of Concert 1 (TWV 42:D6) 
is already linked that way.


An example on distributing single pieces from a collection to separate 
IMSLP work pages could be 'Newe Weinacht Liedlein mit 4 und 8 Stimmen' 
by Leonard Schröter


https://imslp.org/wiki/Newe_Weinacht_Liedlein_mit_4_und_8_Stimmen_(Schr%C3%B6ter%2C_Leonhard)

If you select the menu item 'Page->Edit' you can see how to create 
references from the collection work page to the work pages of the single 
pieces.


I encourage marking PMX/MusiXTeX editions like this as members of 
IMSLP's Werner Icking Collection. You do that by adding the IMSLP template


{{WIMAProject}}

to the 'Misc. Notes' field

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Re: [Tex-music] Problem accessing the archive

2021-12-07 Thread Christian Mondrup

Den 07.12.2021 kl. 00.34 skrev dsim...@roadrunner.com:

Bob--

When I try to access the Icking "archive" at

_https://www.icking-music-archive.org/software/_<https://www.icking-music-archive.org/software/>,

or the past versions of MusiXTeX at

_https://www.icking-music-archive.org/software/musixtex/older-versions_<https://www.icking-music-archive.org/software/musixtex/older-versions>,

I get the message

"It appears you don't have

permission to access this page.

403 Error. Forbidden."

Any idea what's happening?


I experienced something similar problem in another WIMA area a few 
months ago. As most often in such cases I asked Massimo Capozza (Italy), 
technical manager of WIMA, CPDL and IMSLP for advice. And as most often 
we found a solution, a .htaccess file with some directives stored at a 
suitable location in the folder hierarchy.


It looks like the hostgator staff has taken some measurements causing 
the 403 error. After I added a similar .htacess file at the root of the 
MusiXTeX software hierarchy I'm able to access the above mentioned 
links. Please have a try.


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Re: [Tex-music] Serenissima font

2021-08-29 Thread Christian Mondrup

Den 28.08.2021 kl. 15.01 skrev Bob Tennent:

Early Music Sources provide a font that emulates 16th and 17th century music
publications.  It is supposed to work in conventional word-processing
programs with ligatures enabled, but it should be possible to adapt it for
use with MusiXTeX.  Let me know if this might be of interest to you.


Having looked at the Serenissimanbhome page and experimented with the 
font in LibreOffice writer I believe it would be perfect for preparing 
incipits in early music editions.


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Re: [Tex-music] musixtex version 1.33

2021-07-07 Thread Christian Mondrup

Den 04.07.2021 kl. 18.23 skrev Bob Tennent:

I've released a new version of the musixtex package. This
version improves on the tablature support: tablature notes
are now in (Helvetica) bold, tablature notes below the
staff now use slashes (/) rather than ledger lines, as is
conventional in French tablature, and new commands are
provided to generate notehead-less stems above a tablature
staff to specify note duration. Full details in
Section 18.10 of musixdoc.pdf.

http://icking-music-archive.org/software/musixtex/musixtex133.zip
http://icking-music-archive.org/software/musixtex/musixdoc.pdf


I'd recommend _centering_ the notehead-less stems above the tablature 
digits. The example in musixdoc.pdf the stems are placed as if the 
noteheads were visible.


For examples from renaissance lute tablature notation see for example

https://imslp.org/wiki/A_New_Book_of_Tabliture_(Barley%2C_William)

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Re: [Tex-music] Centering problem

2021-05-21 Thread Christian Mondrup

Den 21.05.2021 kl. 16.13 skrev dsim...@roadrunner.com:

Christian Mondrup wrote

Den 21.05.2021 kl. 13.56 skrev Bob Tennent:
|Processed in my environment | |Linux Mint 20.1 |TeXLive 2021 
|PMX 2.94 |MusiXTeX 1.32 |Musixflx-0.83.3.lua7 | |the score is

clearly misaligned, see the attached .ps file


Christian:  When you installed TeXLive 2021, did you set the
paper option to A4?


Yes, I did


Do you get different behavior if you use texconfig to set the
paper size to letter?


to me the misalignment is the same whether texlive paper is set to
letter or a4. See the attached .ps results and the shell script,

Christian Mondrup


Thanks very much for your feedback, Christian. The results are all
consistent with what I'm seeing and --- I believe --- what Bob saw
earlier. I do have good news, though, and a request for a further
test. It turns out there's already an option in PMX that causes the
proper offsets for letter size paper to be inserted into the TeX
file: Acl. Could you or Bob or both try inserting that into
centtest.pmx near the beginning and checking? The numbers differ by 2
pt from what I had just recently worked out manually. Not that it
makes much difference, but could you suggest whether I should revise
the PMX option or leave it as is?


Setting the option Acl centers the score visually perfect whether 
texconfig assigns 'letter' or 'a4' to 'paper.


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Re: [Tex-music] Centering problem

2021-05-21 Thread Christian Mondrup

Den 21.05.2021 kl. 13.56 skrev Bob Tennent:

  >|Processed in my environment
  >|
  >|Linux Mint 20.1
  >|TeXLive 2021
  >|PMX 2.94
  >|MusiXTeX 1.32
  >|Musixflx-0.83.3.lua7
  >|
  >|the score is clearly misaligned, see the attached .ps file

Christian:  When you installed TeXLive 2021, did you set the
paper option to A4?  


Yes, I did


Do you get different behavior if you use
texconfig to set the paper size to letter?


to me the misalignment is the same whether texlive paper is set to 
letter or a4. See the attached .ps results and the shell script,


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centtest-a4.ps
Description: PostScript document


centtest-letter.ps
Description: PostScript document


centtest.sh
Description: application/shellscript
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Re: [Tex-music] Centering problem

2021-05-21 Thread Christian Mondrup

Den 21.05.2021 kl. 08.36 skrev dsim...@roadrunner.com:


I finally found my MikTeX console and it says letter size paper is the
default. I'm very confused and frustrated by the state of affairs. Unless I
find a magic button, I'm going to have to insert inline TeX offsets into
every PMX file I generate going forward.

Let me ask Bob again and anyone else for the first time: can you confirm
that when you process centtest.pmx with PMX, etex, musixflx, etex, and dvips
with the -tletter option, you get a .ps that is obviously off center?

If the answer is yes, this is also troubling because just in case anyone who
uses letter size paper were to start using PMX from scratch, they'd have the
same problem. I'll say that I'm now quite certain that in the past my letter
size files came out centered just fine by default.


Processed in my environment

Linux Mint 20.1
TeXLive 2021
PMX 2.94
MusiXTeX 1.32
Musixflx-0.83.3.lua7

the score is clearly misaligned, see the attached .ps file

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centtest.ps
Description: PostScript document
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Re: [Tex-music] scor2prt and irregular time signatures

2021-01-29 Thread Christian Mondrup

Den 28.01.2021 kl. 22.45 skrev Bob Tennent:

  >|When I need to compile a new PMX release I've been using gfortran for a
  >|while since f2c caused trouble.

Hi Christian.  I use the following Makefile:

all: pmxab.c scor2prt.c

pmxab.c: pmx294.for
 f2c -g -\!bs < pmx294.for > pmxab.c

scor2prt.c: scor2prt.for
 f2c -g -\!bs < scor2prt.for > scor2prt.c



Thank you for the compile tip.

I did a test with one of the 2 test cases initially provided by Kalvin, 
howl-24.pmx:


1) compile scor2prt (rel. 2.94) with gfortran (gfortran -o scor2prt 
scor2prt.for)


2) run this binary on howl-24.pmx (scor2prt ponyo-29.pmx)
The processing completed with warnings only

 This is scor2prt for PMX 2.74, 19 February 2016
 Inserting rm, iv,nmbr:   2   3
 Inserting rm, iv,nmbr:   2   3
 Inserting rm, iv,nmbr:   2   7
 Any whole-bar rests of duration  72/64 will not be recognized
 Inserting rm, iv,nmbr:   2   2
 Inserting rm, iv,nmbr:   2   3
 Inserting rm, iv,nmbr:   2   2
 All done!

3) run pmx on one of the scor2prt result files (musixtex.lua howl-241.pmx)

The processing completed with TeX warnings only

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Re: [Tex-music] scor2prt and irregular time signatures

2021-01-28 Thread Christian Mondrup

Den 28.01.2021 kl. 21.06 skrev Bob Tennent:



I recall some interactions a while back where I needed
to make some changes in the PMX FORTRAN to make it more
compatible with something, but I'd have to do some real
digging to find the details. I also don't recall whether
I made those same kinds of changes in scor2prt. I'm
pretty sure one of them had to do with nested do loops
terminating on the same line, which is perfectly OK in
gfortran. Is any of this relevant here?


Hi Don. I don't think so. It seems to be a bug in (the
latest version of) f2c. Here are the lines in your source
that it can't deal with:

 write(*,'(33H Any whole-bar rests of duration ,i3,
  *26H/64 will not be recognized)') lenbar

Anything "non-standard" there?


When I need to compile a new PMX release I've been using gfortran for a 
while since f2c caused trouble. I have no experience with the gfortran 
outcome of  scor2prt, though.


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Re: [Tex-music] Openscore

2020-05-14 Thread Christian Mondrup

Den 14.05.2020 kl. 19.18 skrev Jean-Pierre Coulon:

On Thu, 14 May 2020, Christian Mondrup wrote:

To test this I logged out from my membership and clicked to download 
the first score, an autograph facsimile. And yes, I do get a request 
for signing up for a membership. But near the top of the page there is 
a link saying 'Click here to continue your download.'. Clicking this 
link gets me past the page, and the download of the score starts.


Are you speaking about an imslp download or an openscore download ?


I misunderstood your posting and tested downloading the Debussy score 
from IMSLP withour being logged in.




I experimented an openscore download.



I did this a few minutes ago. And yes, I'm asked to sign in to Openscore 
in order to download the score. I'm using Musescore now and then and 
signed up for an account long ago. After my login the download of the 
Debussy score started. I don't encounter any request for paid membership.


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Re: [Tex-music] Openscore

2020-05-14 Thread Christian Mondrup

Den 14.05.2020 kl. 18.32 skrev Jean-Pierre Coulon:
I tried to download a score (Debussy Arabesques) and it asks me to sign 
in! Not a good start to claim oneself equivalent to imslp!


I you think they are acting unfair ask questions in one of the forums of 
http://imslpforums.org/




To test this I logged out from my membership and clicked to download the 
first score, an autograph facsimile. And yes, I do get a request for 
signing up for a membership. But near the top of the page there is a 
link saying 'Click here to continue your download.'. Clicking this link 
gets me past the page, and the download of the score starts.


I have to admit, though, that the 'escape text' appears in rather small 
size letters.


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Re: [Tex-music] Openscore

2020-05-14 Thread Christian Mondrup

Den 14.05.2020 kl. 14.01 skrev Rodolfo Medina:

Hi all.

About Openscore project, that claims collaborating with IMSLP: did I
 understand wrong, or they ask people for money: primarily, to work
for them; and secondly, to purchase those scores that people typed
paying for that...?


All IMSLP scores incl. those originating from the former WIMA score 
project, are published under a Creative Commons license and are 
downloadable free of charge. You may, however, sign up with a paid for 
membership giving you some benefits: you don't need to wait a small 
number of seconds for downloading recent IMSLP contributions, and you 
are allowed to stream commercial recordings associated with an IMSLP 
work page. But please notice that you do NOT pay for any IMSLP score.


The IMSLP membership was introduced some years ago with the aim of 
funding the operating costs of IMSLP. I had WIMA merge with IMSLP in 
2012 after years of unsuccessful attempts to establish a cooperative 
WIMA staff. If that had been successful we'd most likely have met a 
similar need for funding assistance. The WIMA server is still alive, 
hosting the MusiXTeX software. The server is only kept alive because the 
costs are sponsored by a Danish cultural organisation.


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Re: [Tex-music] IMSLP Chopin's mazurka pmx engraving files

2020-04-18 Thread Christian Mondrup

Den 18.04.2020 kl. 12.32 skrev Bob Tennent:

  >|Chopin's mazurka Op.67 n.2 .pmx file at IMSLP is
  >|uncomplete: it only includes the first measure. Why...?

Presumably the source file was corrupted at some point.

Andre: Please send me privately the full pmx file and I'll
try and upload it to IMSLP.

  >|With the occasion, I renew my proposal of creating a
  >|separate repository with PMX/MusiXTeX sources. They are
  >|only 1% of all the scores in IMSLP now: creating such a
  >|separate section could hopefully have the effect of, or
  >|help, increasing them...

I don't agree that a separate repository would have that
desired effect. And setting up the infrastructure and
maintaining the meta-data would be massive. As Christian
has said, it'll never happen. Even setting up a suitable
"gallery" of *links* to musixtex-based scores at IMSLP would
be hard.

Jean-Pierre's suggestion is a good one: ask IMSLP to set up
"typeset with MusiXTeX" as a tag. I've contributed dozens
of scores to IMSLP but I would be willing to tag them. And
though I would send sources to anyone who requested them,
I'm not willing to routinely upload "engraving files" for
every new submission, much less all of the existing ones.

Christian: You've dealt with the IMSLP administration in the
past; would you be willing to negotiate with them?


I'm still in contact with a couple of the IMSLP admins and will forward 
this matter to them.


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Re: [Tex-music] TeXLive 2020

2020-04-17 Thread Christian Mondrup

Den 16.04.2020 kl. 15.13 skrev Bob Tennent:

  >|Maybe my question is too technical. I ask on the list
  >|anyway.

Christian: I regret that I'm not able to help you on this.
For TeXLive, I stick to the suggested defaults. I suggest
you ask at tex-l...@tug.org.

Bob



I got quite a few reactions on my question to tex-l...@tug.org on 
TEXMFHOME and TEXMFHOME, the most important from Reinhard Kotucha:



By default there is no ls-R file in TEXMFHOME and TEXMFHOME is not in
TEXMFDBS.  This is intentional because the number of files in
TEXMFHOME is relatively small and a database lookup is not necessary.
As a result, there is no need to run mktexlsr whenever you add new
files and this is the main reason for the default settings.

I don't know what created the ls-R file though.  I recommend to remove
it and as well as the entries in texmf.cnf you made.

There will be no noticeable speed improvement unless you have hundreds
of files in in TEXMFHOME.

If you add something to 2020/texmf.cnf and forget to copy this file to
2021/texmf.cnf next year you run into trouble and it's not always
easy to find out what goes wrong.



If you _have_ a lot of files in TEXMFHOME you can consider to move
then to TEXMFLOCAL if possible.  That would avoid a customized setup
and all the trouble it causes.  Please note that TeX Live never
touches anything in TEXMFLOCAL.  Your files are as save there as in
TEXMFHOME.


Eventually I chose to keep my TEXMFHOME and delete its ls-R file. That 
solved the problem.


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Re: [Tex-music] IMSLP Chopin's mazurka pmx engraving files

2020-04-17 Thread Christian Mondrup

Den 17.04.2020 kl. 16.39 skrev Andre Van Ryckeghem:

Hi,

This is in casewhat you are looking for.
If the pmx source is needed, i can provide it.

Uploading to ISMLP is a bit tedious. Years ago, Christian did it for me.

The midi is made from an adapted pmx file.

Andre

-Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Rodolfo Medina
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 2:12 PM
To: tex-music@tug.org
Subject: [Tex-music] IMSLP Chopin's mazurka pmx engraving files

Hi all...

Chopin's mazurka Op.67 n.2 .pmx file at IMSLP is uncomplete: it only 
includes

the first measure.  Why...?

With the occasion, I renew my proposal of creating a separate repository 
with

PMX/MusiXTeX sources.  They are only 1% of all the scores in IMSLP now:
creating such a separate section could hopefully have the effect of, or 
help,

increasing them...


Unfortunately not as easy as you might imagine. IMSLP is based on 
Wikipedia software. Compositions are handled in 'work pages' which are 
basically Wikipedia articles. A work page registers a composition and 
any number of engravings, including scans of old, out-of-copyright 
printed scores and/or autographs and new engravings. If any of the new 
engravings are prepared with musixtex they can't just be moved to 
another context. It would require quite heavy Wikimedia template 
programming to tag musixtex engravings such that they could be looked up 
as a separate group. Provided a suitable template were provided then 
IMSLP staff members or volunteers capable of editing work pages would 
need to look up all musixtex engravings (using the IMSLP Google search 
facility) and mark the software files (if present). I'm afraid that'll 
never happen.


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Re: [Tex-music] TeXLive 2020

2020-04-15 Thread Christian Mondrup

Den 13.04.2020 kl. 15.08 skrev Bob Tennent:
TeXLive 2020 has been officially released. It is not possible to 
upgrade an earlier version but TeXLive 2020 can be installed in 
parallel with an older version.


The 2020 release provides

musixtex (1.30) pmx (2.94 2020-03-20) M-Tx (0.63c) autosp 
(2019-12-22)


for 16 platforms, including MacOSX and Windows (but Windows users
may find MiKTeX to be more convenient).

You can find installation instructions at WIMA:

http://icking-music-archive.org/software/htdocs/Getting_Started_Four_Scenar.html






To delete an existing TeXLive installation


tlmgr remove -all



Thank you so much, Bob, for your thorough explanation of the
installation procedure.

Maybe my question is too technical. I ask on the list anyway.

Among the new tlmgr features is


New option tlmgr check texmfdbs, to to check consistency of ls-R
files and !! specifications for each tree


(see https://tug.org/texlive/doc/texlive-en/texlive-en.html#news)

I took the opportunity to check the validity of my own TeX setup and
was made aware of a flaw: my TEXMFHOME was

'in TEXMF not in TEXMFDBS, but has ls-R file'.

So I checked the variable TEXMFDBS in
/texlive/2020/texmf-dist/web2c/texmf.cnf and realized that my
TEXMFHOME was not reflected. I'm a little surprised because I did
specify my TEXMFHOME when I started installing texlive-2020.

My workaround was to copy the assignment of TEXMFDBS to
/texlive/texmf.cnf and add my TEXMFHOME

TEXMFDBS =
{!!$TEXMFHOME,!!$TEXMFLOCAL,!!$TEXMFSYSCONFIG,!!$TEXMFSYSVAR,!!$TEXMFDIST}

This solved the problem. But the idea of my local texmf.cnf is that it

'should contain only your personal changes from the original texmf.cnf'

Could I have added my TEXMFHOME to TEXMFDBS otherwise, ie. without
repeating the already existing assignment?

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Re: [Tex-music] New PMX version

2020-02-05 Thread Christian Mondrup

Den 03.02.2020 kl. 07.59 skrev Luigi Cataldi:
Dear Don, in my Fedora 30 Linux I'm able to compile pmxab.for only 
with 'f2c'. With the previous pmx version I had made several attempts

with 'gfortran' and 'g77' but all of them failed. As far as I know,
however, 'f2c' no longer exists in Ubuntu and this is a problem.


'f2c' is indeed distributed with linux mint 19.3 based on Ubuntu 18.04
bionic


On Fedora 30 I have used the following command:

'f2c -g -\!bs < pmx294.for > pmxab.c'

The compilation returned me only one warning message:

'Warning on line 11244: local variable gotclef never used'

There was no problem with compiling via 'gcc' with the command:

gcc pmxab.c -lf2c -lm -o pmxab

It happens nearly the same with 'scor2prt':

f2c -g -\!bs < scor2prt.for > scor2prt.c

'Warning on line 783: local variable dumq never used'

As far as I could see, 'pmx294' works well.


Compiling pmx294.for with f2c and gcc in my Ubuntu 18.04 based
environment completes with no errors and warnings. The compiled binary
doesn't work, however. When I launch it on a pmx files I get no output
at all - no error messages, no output file.

Contrarily a binary compiled with gfortran from pmx294.for works perfectly.

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Re: [Tex-music] IMSLP submissions

2019-06-12 Thread Christian Mondrup

Den 12/06/2019 kl. 08.44 skrev Rodolfo Medina:

Bodo Meißner  writes:


Am 12.06.2019 um 07:49 schrieb Rodolfo Medina:


Yes, but that makes no sense...  Besides, yesterday from another PC, without
being logged in, I could see all 4...


I also see all 4 works without being logged in.


So it really seems to be a Cache
matter...  but I cleared it again and again but still the problem is there,,,
Veronica suggests that it can take days...  But why?  It's not clear to me...


In case there is a caching proxy somewhere between your PC and the IMSLP
server, it may take some time to refresh the data in the proxy.
But this should be possible only for HTTP connections or for HTTPS
connections with a man-in-the-middle proxy, which is sometimes the case
in company networks. (Your link uses HTTPS.)

Maybe you could try a different browser on the affected PC to see if the
problem is related to the browser.

Bodo



I tried with a different browser but the problem remains.


I see 4 entries when I'm logged in. When I log out I don't see the 
Czerny entry. Maybe (part of) the explanation is that your 3 Czerny 
editions haven't yet been approved by the IMSLP staff. Please notice the 
'X' formed icon to the left telling that the scores are waiting for 
approval.


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Re: [Tex-music] Submitting scores to IMSLP

2019-05-17 Thread Christian Mondrup

Den 17/05/2019 kl. 19.55 skrev Rodolfo Medina:

Christian Mondrup  writes:



New Edition

and regardng your typesetting files: pack them into a zip file and add them as
'New Edition' -> 'Source Files'


It's damned unclear...  It tells to create a work page   what does all
that mean...??


A 'work page' is where IMSLP registers a composition. Similarly IMSLP 
registers composers on 'composer pages'. Both page types are like 
Wikipedia articles. In fact IMSLP is based Wikipedia software.


Point your browser to the work page for the menuet by Pezold

https://imslp.org/wiki/Minuet_in_G_minor,_BWV_Anh.115_(Pezold,_Christian)

to upload a pdf score:

- click on the link text 'Add file' on the first tool bar line

- select 'New Edition' from the drop down list

- select 'Scores' from the drop down list

- click on the link text 'Drop or click ...'

- click the 'copyright' button

- select a suitable creative commons license

to upload a zip file with typesetting (engraving) files follow the same 
procedure but select 'Source Files' from the drop down list under 'New 
Edition'


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Re: [Tex-music] Submitting scores to IMSLP

2019-05-17 Thread Christian Mondrup

Den 17/05/2019 kl. 19.43 skrev Rodolfo Medina:

"Don Simons"  writes:


Rodolfo Medina wrote

"Don Simons"  writes:


Rodolfo Medina  writes:


"Don Simons"  writes:


Yep, tricky to figure out. But the good news is that if you don't
do exactly what they want, they will usually tell you what's

"wrong".


Done...!  Waiting for the approval...  Lets' hope for the best...


Submission refused, upload deleted...  even more difficult than I

thought...


Rodolfo


Did they tell you why it was refused?



They linked me a large set of possible reasons:

http://imslp.org/index.php?title=Special:WikiForum=23609

, so I have to study hard now to figure out which of them...  unless some

of

you gentle listers who's already upload scores to IMSLP can help me...
Actually some years ago I uploaded a score but forgot the procedure or
something has changed...  Now I want upload the MusiXTeX source of
Christian Petzold's Menuet in G minor together with its PDF output, both

files

zipped into one zip file...


The reply refers you to reason #3, so it looks like all you have to do is
say your edition is a (Re)Typeset and assign it one of the Creative Commons
licenses.



From here:


  https://imslp.org/wiki/Minuet_in_G_minor,_BWV_Anh.115_(Pezold,_Christian)

shall I click `Add file' on top...?  and then...?  Which one of:

  Add Scan
  Add Manuscript
  New Composition
  New Arrangement
  New Edition
  Recording

`Add Manuscript' or `New Edition'...?


New Edition

and regardng your typesetting files: pack them into a zip file and add 
them as 'New Edition' -> 'Source Files'




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Re: [Tex-music] WIMA site unreachable

2019-05-13 Thread Christian Mondrup

Den 12/05/2019 kl. 12.43 skrev Christian Mondrup:

Dear MusiXTeX-ers

I need to inform you that the WIMA site is unreachable just now. It
looks like our web host (Hostgator) doesn't handle a recent change of
our IP address correctly.

Massimo Capozza, taking care of IMSLP and IMSLP as web admin, is also
WIMA's web admin. I'm in contact with him on this matter.

A few months ago we decided to try out a dedicated IP address rather
than the default shared IP address in order to cope with some problems
with emailing through the WIMA server. The dedicated IP address turned
out to make no difference and besides is is more expensive. So some days
ago we decided to return to the shared address.

The current problem showed up as soon as the IP address change
propagated through the Internet. Massimo will contact Hostgator as soon
as possible to get the problems solved.


Hostgator.com admitted that they had misconfigured the WIMA site. Their 
solution was to assign yet another IP address. This has now propagated 
almost everywhere (apparently excluding New York). So you should have 
access to WIMA again.


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Re: [Tex-music] WIMA site unreachable

2019-05-12 Thread Christian Mondrup

Den 12/05/2019 kl. 12.43 skrev Christian Mondrup:

Dear MusiXTeX-ers

I need to inform you that the WIMA site is unreachable just now. It 
looks like our web host (Hostgator) doesn't handle a recent change

of our IP address correctly.

Massimo Capozza, taking care of IMSLP



and IMSLP


and CPDL


as web admin, is also WIMA's web admin. I'm in contact with him on
this matter.

A few months ago we decided to try out a dedicated IP address rather 
than the default shared IP address in order to cope with some

problems with emailing through the WIMA server. The dedicated IP
address turned out to make no difference and besides is is more
expensive. So some days ago we decided to return to the shared
address.

The current problem showed up as soon as the IP address change 
propagated through the Internet. Massimo will contact Hostgator as

soon as possible to get the problems solved.

Regards



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[Tex-music] WIMA site unreachable

2019-05-12 Thread Christian Mondrup

Dear MusiXTeX-ers

I need to inform you that the WIMA site is unreachable just now. It
looks like our web host (Hostgator) doesn't handle a recent change of
our IP address correctly.

Massimo Capozza, taking care of IMSLP and IMSLP as web admin, is also
WIMA's web admin. I'm in contact with him on this matter.

A few months ago we decided to try out a dedicated IP address rather
than the default shared IP address in order to cope with some problems
with emailing through the WIMA server. The dedicated IP address turned
out to make no difference and besides is is more expensive. So some days
ago we decided to return to the shared address.

The current problem showed up as soon as the IP address change
propagated through the Internet. Massimo will contact Hostgator as soon
as possible to get the problems solved.

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Re: [Tex-music] MusiXTeX/pmx sources

2019-04-29 Thread Christian Mondrup

Den 29/04/2019 kl. 20.37 skrev Rodolfo Medina:

Christian Mondrup  writes:


Luigi has sent me alternative PMX sources to his edition of the
two-part inventions by J.S.Bach. I've added these to IMSLP. They'll
be available on the above quoted URL upon approval from the IMSLP
staff (I'm not a staff member).


Fantastic, Christian, thanks...!  Only, it seems to me that by
mistake the zip file on that link contains other music, not Bach's
inventions, rather a Cantata by Vivaldi...  Is it so...?


It is, I uploaded a wrong zip by mistake. I've replaced the zip file
with the right one. Please don't be confused with its name which still
refers to Vivaldi.

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[Tex-music] MusiXTeX/pmx sources

2019-04-29 Thread Christian Mondrup
Years ago Luigi Cataldi prepared a complete edition for my former 
site WIMA, now merged with IMSLP. Luigi, like many other WIMA 
contributors published his engraving sources (in this case MUP)

along with the pdf scores. Luigi's engraving sources are still
available on IMSLP:

https://imslp.org/wiki/15_Inventions,_BWV_772-786_(Bach,_Johann_Sebastian)#220144




...it's a bit depressing to see how little is in percentage the
presence of MusiXTeX/pmx sources in IMSLP...  (with respect to PDF 
scores)...


There are MusiXTeX et. al. sources to other works by J.S.Bach 
available on IMSLP.


Luigi has sent me alternative PMX sources to his edition of the two-part
inventions by J.S.Bach. I've added these to IMSLP. They'll be available
on the above quoted URL upon approval from the IMSLP staff (I'm not a
staff member).

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Re: [Tex-music] MusiXTeX/pmx sources

2019-04-20 Thread Christian Mondrup

On 4/20/19 12:05 AM, Rodolfo Medina wrote:

Dieter  writes:

Thank you...  It'd be great.  I'll try to install Audiveris in my Linux
machine.  If successful, I'll then start the happy `xml -> tex' walk.  I'll let
you know.


I managed to build and run audiveris on my Mint 18.3 linux station. I 
followed the instructions at


https://bacchushlg.gitbooks.io/audiveris-5-1/content/install/sources.html

My test case is a simple MUP engraved keyboard score: 'Musette' by 
J.S.Bach from Anna Magdalena Notenbüchlein. When opening the .mxl result 
file with MuseScore I notice that the musicxml transcription is far from 
error free. I wouldn't expect that either. It looks like, though, that 
audiveris may free you from some tedious Scoding.



I'd propose that a specific repository be created, including all and only music
score sources...


Judged from my quality assurance while maintaining WIMA 2001-2012 I'd 
not recommend that proposal. My experience is that the quality of score 
contributions varies substantially. How would you now from a pmx 
engraving source ONLY that the engraver has prepared a proper score? You 
need a PDF result to evaluate that.


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Re: [Tex-music] MusiXTeX/pmx sources

2019-04-19 Thread Christian Mondrup

On 4/19/19 9:12 AM, Rodolfo Medina wrote:

Rodolfo Medina  writes:


Hi all MusiXTeX users...

Is there anyone who has typeset J. S. Bach's two-voices Invention...?  On
IMSLP repository I coudn't find the engraving sources...


Years ago Luigi Cataldi prepared a complete edition for my former site 
WIMA, now merged with IMSLP. Luigi, like many other WIMA contributors 
published his engraving sources (in this case MUP) along with the pdf 
scores. Luigi's engraving sources are still available on IMSLP:


https://imslp.org/wiki/15_Inventions,_BWV_772-786_(Bach,_Johann_Sebastian)#220144


...it's a bit depressing to see how little is in percentage the presence of
MusiXTeX/pmx sources in IMSLP...  (with respect to PDF scores)...


There are MusiXTeX et. al. sources to other works by J.S.Bach available 
on IMSLP.


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Re: [Tex-music] Struggling with fonts

2019-01-27 Thread Christian Mondrup

On 1/27/19 6:44 AM, O. Michal Mária OSB wrote:

+PAX

Thank you very much for all the replies, especially to Bob. The "TeX" 
line in the preamble was the most important piece. I did use


musixtex -F "xetex" -p 312a.mtx

after that, which did yield the correct result. Almost. The only problem 
is, that the letter "ľ" does not appear in the PDF output. It does not 
seem to be an issue with Cormorant Garamond, as the same goes for PDF 
output provided by Dirk (which does use the default font). Is there a 
way to make sure that unicode characters will get through the whole 
rendering process? I can't find any clue to that in the documentation, 
and musixtex is very convenient, but it obviously does a lot of stuff 
and I don't see anything related to this in the terminal output, or in 
the logs. The correct text (with ľ) is present both in the .pmx and .tex 
files generated by musixtex.


I can reproduce the problem with the character "ľ" missing in the pdf 
output in my texlive environment. My searches for solutions in tex 
stackexchange and similar places were not successful. I wonder, however, 
whether the plain TeX extension 'Csplain' (Czech and Slovak in plain 
TeX) might be something worth looking at. Csplain is part of texlive. 
See http://petr.olsak.net/csplain-e.html


I've been successfully using latex for a while to prepare music editions 
containing music and text elements (like critical notes). I'm using
\includegraphics to add pdf music examples into the text and \includepdf 
to include multiple page pdf (scores) while adding latex style page numbers.


A recent example is a modern edition of Danish language cantata by 
Heinrich Ernst Grosmann (late 18th century cantor at the cathedral of my 
home town Aaarhus)


See Pdf scores and engraving sources at

https://imslp.org/wiki/Cantata_paa_Nytaars-Dag_Vi_Himlens_allm%C3%A6gtigste_Herre_(Grosmann,_Heinrich_Ernst)

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Re: [Tex-music] Problem accessing WIMA

2019-01-27 Thread Christian Mondrup

On 1/27/19 7:04 AM, Don Simons wrote:

Well, I finally figured out how to explicitly stop McAfee Firewall
from blocking my access to WIMA. But I still wonder if anyone besides
me has had this problem, and also whether there’s anything that
should be done by Christian to track down a fix whatever was causing
it.


I can't reproduce the problem on a pc still running Windows 7,
regardless of browser type, IE, Chrome, Firefox. Firefox is set to 'Use
system proxy settings'.  Neither on my linux pc (Mint 18.3) with
Firefox, Chromium and Qupzilla browsers installed.

I guess you have reasons to make use of a proxy which may have detected
some configuration change on the Hostgator server hosting WIMA. About a
year ago I did encounter problems with services on the WIMA site: from
one day to another some web pages appeared as 'not found'. I realized
that the problem was that their 'root pages' were symbolic links under
public_html pointing to sub directories outside public_html. I needed to
create root pages under public_html in order to get these services
working again.

The Hostgator admin staff may have introduced some new subtle security
measure(s) causing problems for your setup.

Did any other tex-music subscribers encounter a similar problem?

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Re: [Tex-music] Per-note MIDI in PMX

2018-11-05 Thread Christian Mondrup

On 05/11/2018 13.23, Dirk Laurie wrote:


Thanks for the tip. The mind does boggle a bit at the prospect of
simutaneously immersing itself in other people's 25000-line Fortran as
well as C code :-(

I have the MUP binaries on my computer (it's in Ubuntu) so another
possibility would be to write a MUP backend for M-Tx.


The note input structures of M-Tx and MUP are quite alike. So I guess 
'mapping' a M-Tx file into a MUP file wouldn't be that hard.


The look-and-feel of MusiXTeX- and MUP output are not quite the same. 
IMHO both have their pros and cons.


For comparison you might want to have a look at my recent MUP engraved 
'practical' edition of Kunst der Fuge based on Werner Icking's PMX 
engraving:


https://imslp.org/wiki/Die_Kunst_der_Fuge,_BWV_1080_(Bach,_Johann_Sebastian)

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Re: [Tex-music] Strange messages : malware ?

2018-11-05 Thread Christian Mondrup

On 04/11/2018 20.39, Dirk Laurie wrote:

Op So., 4 Nov. 2018 om 21:03 het Jean-Pierre Coulon  geskryf:


Am I the only one in our list getting mails like this ?


I am not getting them. Not GMail filterring them as spam, just simply
not getting them.


I don't get them either. I've checked the archives of tex-music for 
October and November and found no such postings. The traffic on the list 
is indeed very modest so you'd recognize spam postings quickly if there 
were any.



The attachment is an html file. Did the managers of our list sell our
adresses to hackers?


The tug (tex user group) mailing lists are hosted and administered by 
the dept. of computer science at the university of Aarhus, Denmark. 
Nobody is selling anything there.


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Re: [Tex-music] Per-note MIDI in PMX

2018-11-05 Thread Christian Mondrup

On 05/11/2018 08.40, Dirk Laurie wrote:

Op Sa., 3 Nov. 2018 om 21:24 het Don Simons  geskryf:


But PMX is freeware, and if anyone else wants to dig into the source code
and work something out (like Dirk did once long ago for an alternate tie
notation), I'd be glad to do what I can to help.


Well, I'll report progress in small steps and you can at any stage
weigh in with a comment :-) It will be the first Fortran I write since
that "once long ago".

There are four comments in the "To do" section: I do not intend giving
any attention to those.

I have split pmx287.for into 130 pieces (one program, one blockdata,
about 30 functions, about 100 subroutines) and classified those by
doing 'wc' on non-comment lines containing the case-insensitive string
MIDI. The three numbers count lines, words and characters.

addmidi.for 54 161 2453
chkimidi.for 11 35 515
docrd.for 14 39 711
dopsslur.for 15 46 822
doslur.for 15 42 783
g1etnote.for 14 52 664
g1etset.for 2 6 60
getmidi.for 63 263 3343
getnote.for 16 44 728
getset.for 2 6 58
igetvarlen.for 4 9 195
make1bar.for 8 18 353
make2bar.for 18 46 840
midievent.for 32 90 1480
pmxab.for 28 76 1210
pmxb.for 14 32 634
writemidi.for 35 89 1777


The MUP engraving software supports change of instrument, tempo, 
amplitude etc on any note. MUP is open source, so you might (or might 
not) find inspiration for your task in the c source files. The files are 
reasonably named so it should be possible to dive into the MIDI specific 
 areas of the MUP code.


MUP source files are available as

ftp://ftp.arkkra.com/pub/unix/mup66src.tar.gz

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Re: [Tex-music] tablature in musixtex.tex 1.29

2018-07-18 Thread Christian Mondrup

On 2018-07-13 03:28, Bob Tennent wrote:

Tablature is a notational system used for fretted stringed
instruments such as lute, guitar, banjo, mandolin, and
so on. Staff lines represent strings and conventional
note heads are replaced by numbers (or sometimes letters)
indicating which fret is to be stopped, with 0 representing
an open string.

I've uploaded a beta of musixtex.tex version 1.29 which
incorporates support for tablature notation, adapted from
R.J. Gelten's tabdefs.tex.  See Section 18.10 of musixdoc.pdf
for examples and documentation.  Comments and suggestions
will be welcomed.

http://icking-music-archive.org/software/musixtex/musixtex.tex
http://icking-music-archive.org/software/musixtex/musixdoc.pdf


Thank you so much for this version making me able to update the lute 
tablatures of my modern edition of Orazio Vecchi's 'Selva' (see IMSLP)


As a test I've updated the M-Tx code of the initial 4 bars of the lute 
part plus keyboard transcription of the canzonetta 'Damon e Filli' for 4 
singers and lute. The lute part is notated in Italian lute tablature.


See http://icking-music-archive.org/cmo/music/outgoing/Vecchi/ where 
tabtest2.mtx is the M-Tx source referencing additional macros in 
tablmacros3.tex. The musixtex.lua output is tabtest2.pdf plus 
intermediate pmx- and tex- files.


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Re: [Tex-music] tablature

2018-06-29 Thread Christian Mondrup

On 2018-06-29 16:38, Bob Tennent wrote:

A new package guitartabs has recently appeared at CTAN. The
author seems to think tablature was invented recently for
the (modern) guitar.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tablature

I wondered whether musixtex can be used for tablature
notation.

The tex-music archive has references to

http://icking-music-archive.org/software/musixtex/add-ons/tabdefs.tex

but this isn't usable as is. Has anyone been able to use
this (or a comparable set of macros) with modern musixtex?


I've been using tabdefs.tex decades ago for my modern edition of Orazio 
Vecchi's 'Selva' incl. a number of pieces with lute parts in tablature 
notation, for example


http://imslp.org/wiki/Damon_e_Filli_(Vecchi%2C_Orazio)

The tablature staff doesn't compile properly any more.

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Re: [Tex-music] Octave treble clef

2018-05-21 Thread Christian Mondrup

On 2018-05-21 15:48, David Allsopp wrote:


The ideal would be for MusiXTeX to be capable of treating it in both 
ways - as an alternate symbol *or* as an actual clef in its own 
right. For example, in the singing example Dirk gives of a descant 
sung by either Soprano or Tenor, the alternate symbol for treble

clef is the appropriate route (so middle C remains below the bottom
of the stave; as it happens, it would be more common in printed vocal
music to use a bracketed (8) treble clef for this). However, for a 
large-ranged alto part which may begin in normal treble clef but

then switch to octave "tenor" clef later, the position of middle C
really should alter from being below the stave to being on it. At
that point, you want to be able to select the octave treble clef as
a genuine clef.


One example of wide range parts is (some movements from) 'Die Kunst der
Fuge' by J. S. Bach (BWV 1080). This is where MusiXTeX et al fell short
in my project on providing a 'contemporized' edition based on the PMX
engraving by the late Werner Icking.

https://imslp.org/wiki/Die_Kunst_der_Fuge,_BWV_1080_(Bach,_Johann_Sebastian)#Complete_3#504803

In a context like that it's crucial that the treble- and treblelowoct 
clefs are handled as separate clefs regarding default octave and clef 
changes between the two.


Eventually I gave up my initial M-Tx/PMX coding in favour of another
open source engraving solution, MUP. I agree with Don that a regular
treblelowoct clef must be added to MusiXTeX in order to get a working
PMX engraving of music like BWV1080.

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Re: [Tex-music] prepmx failing on example document

2018-04-29 Thread Christian Mondrup

On 2018-04-28 21:34, "Matthias Holländer" wrote:

Hello everyone,

There is another detail on the WIMA website that made me grin quite
a few times and I can't help mentioning it here: On the front page
you state one would need Adobe Acrobat Reader in order to be able to
open pdf-files. I always thought it doesn't really fit to a website
of an open source project :D.


Thank you so much for pointing out that problem! I've updated this part
of WIMA's welcoming page.

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Re: [Tex-music] Upcoming PMX

2017-12-16 Thread Christian Mondrup

On 2017-12-16 22:17, Dirk Laurie wrote:

2017-12-16 21:03 GMT+02:00 Don Simons <dsim...@roadrunner.com>:


I’d like to point out that the notes in the F-tuplet I discussed
earlier could be typeset without using the F-option at all, but
with a horizontal shift instead. Then if you wanted to raise the
rest you could use the standard command.


This is conceptually simpler than the F-tuplet. I prefer it.

If you had posted this earlier, I probably would not have bothered to
alllow F in M-Tx. As it stands, I have not seen my way open to 
documenting precisely what happens. The GitHub version of the M-Tx

manual only says: "Consult the PMX documentation for the difference
between `D` and `F` (or experiment and see for yourself)."


I for my part highly appreciate the M-Tx support for F tuplets. It
simplifies the engraving of the 18th century way of notating dotted note
groups as 2+1 tuplets. It had been really cumbersome to tweak hundreds
of such cases in my adaption of Werner Icking's edition of 'Die Kunst
der Fuge', now available on IMSLP

http://imslp.org/wiki/Die_Kunst_der_Fuge,_BWV_1080_(Bach,_Johann_Sebastian)#504803


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Re: [Tex-music] Shortening the final staff

2017-12-10 Thread Christian Mondrup

On 2017-12-10 10:23, Jean-Pierre Coulon wrote:

Search "leavevmode" in the attched file.



Looks like I need to enclose the final bar within \leavemode. I can't
get that to work in mtx/pmx context.


On Sun, 10 Dec 2017, Christian Mondrup wrote:


Could someone help me with an inline musixtex expression (in
pmx/mtx) that will shorten the final staff of a score. The last bar
must end with an ordinary barline. I need the empty space after the
staff for displaying text information.

Greetings



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[Tex-music] Shortening the final staff

2017-12-10 Thread Christian Mondrup

Could someone help me with an inline musixtex expression (in pmx/mtx)
that will shorten the final staff of a score. The last bar must end with
an ordinary barline. I need the empty space after the staff for
displaying text information.

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Re: [Tex-music] Another update to M-Tx

2017-12-08 Thread Christian Mondrup

On 2017-12-08 09:44, Dirk Laurie wrote:

The current paragraph on M-Tx 0.63 in the Corrections file on

 https://github.com/dlaurie/M-Tx


reads:

1. `Space` can put in optional extra space between title block and
first stave.
2. Multibar rest may appear after comment lines in its paragraph. (Thanks
to Christian Mondrup for finding the bug.)
3. Spurious error message when using `][` corrected. (Thanks
to Christian Mondrup for finding the bug.)
4. Pickup consisting of rests allowed with multibar rest. (Feature requested
by  Christian Mondrup.)
5. Also recognizes `F` as doubling duration in multiplet. (Feature requested
by  Christian Mondrup.)


Thanks to Don and Dirk for their efforts which allow me prepare a new
edition of 'Die Kunst der Fuge' by J. S. Bach based on Werner Icking's
PMX source from 2000. Among the features now supported is vertical
alignment of notes in triplets and dotted note groups in accordance with
18th century notation conventions. Werner wanted to reflect that in his
engraving but passed away shortly after having published his edition at
a time when the F tuplet had not yet been introduced.

When I've completed my new edition I'll publish it on IMSLP.

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Re: [Tex-music] Beam groups within forced beams

2017-11-30 Thread Christian Mondrup

On 2017-11-30 19:24, Dirk Laurie wrote:

I have added the feature that a multi-bar rest may be preceded by a
pickup of rests.
Your original kftriirs.mtx now works.


Thank you so much for both improvements: multibar rests preceded by 
pickup rests and support for beam groups


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Re: [Tex-music] M-Tx code on GitHub updated

2017-11-24 Thread Christian Mondrup

On 2017-11-24 14:36, Dirk Laurie wrote:

I have just pushed a bug correction to

 https://github.com/dlaurie/M-Tx

After a decent interval, if no further issues arise, I shall promote
the current code to be the 0.63 release.

It was tacitly assumed that a multi-bar rest would be the first line
of its paragraph. This restriction was not intended.

The multibar rest may now appear after some comment lines. It is still
the case that there may be no other music lines in the same paragraph.


Thank you so much!



Thanks to Christian Mondrup for finding and reporting the error.

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Re: [Tex-music] Fwd: Transcription of Dvorak's Biblical Songs

2016-06-21 Thread Christian Mondrup

rajkjudit wrote on 06/21/2016 11:13 AM:

To Christian Mondrup:

I do hope, one of the e-mail addresses is working and you receive my mail.
Best,

Dear Mr Mondrup,

I am a contralto singer and a professor at the Music Academy in
Budapest. On my next recital in November, I am planning to sing songs
cycles with string quartet (or quintet plus clarinet). All of the
music included for the program are originally for voice and piano,
but we will play them in contemporary transcriptions for voices and
strings.


[snip]


I do hope that we can cooperate for the success.
Waiting for your answer, friendly yours,


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Re: [Tex-music] Subject: Last version of Acrobat Reader, pdfopen

2016-03-25 Thread Christian Mondrup

coulon...@free.fr wrote on 03/25/2016 07:33 AM:


The Aarhus server rants if I attach my musixtex.cmd file:
@echo off
if not exist %1.tex goto :EOF
if exist %1.mx2 del %1.mx2
if exist %1.pdf del %1.pdf > nul 2>&1
if exist %1.pdf pdfclose --file %1.pdf
@tex %1 && @musixflx %1 && @tex %1 && @dvips -q* -tA4 %1 && @ps2pdf
-sPAPERSIZE#a4 -r300 %1.ps %1.pdf && pdfopen --file %1.pdf


The mailing list is configured to reject attachments having these 
filename extensions:


exe
bat
cmd
com
pif
scr
vbs
cpl

You attached a file named 'musixtex.cmd' so ...

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Re: [Tex-music] Umlaut o

2016-02-18 Thread Christian Mondrup

Don Simons wrote:

I have problems entering lower case "o" with an umlaut into pmx files, and
getting my TeX setup to recognize them. Andre has told me that he can type
one from his keyboard by hitting two keys in succession, first the umlaut,
then the "o". Problem #1 is that I do not have a key on my keyboard with an
umlaut. It is however possible for me to cut and paste a printed umlaut o
from one of Andre's emails into my pmx files (and here's one as an
experiment: ö). Problem#2 is that this procedure would require me to keep a
text file forever with one in it, and then access it whenever I wanted to
type an umlaut o...pretty klunky. Next, when I run pmx, the pasted umlaut o
does get copied into the tex file, but when tex'ing the result, it is not
recognized at all; I don't even get a blank space. I could use what is
suggested in the TeXbook, i.e., \"o, and my TeX setup does recognize that,
but unless I do some more programming on pmx, I can't use that in a pmx
lyrics string since the quote mark confuses pmx. I tried defining a macro--
\def\us{\"o} --and then using that as inline TeX in PMX, but that didn't
work either. Andre suggested another approach; entering the inline TeX
\catcode`\ö\active \defö{\"o}\ (where the first two o's have umlauts). With
that, when I use the pasted TeX and a pasted umlaut o either in a title or a
lyrics string in a pmx file, it does work. But that still leaves me without
any ability to type the umlaut o from my keyboard.

Help, please!



These instructions might be helpful

http://www.lsa.umich.edu/german/hmr/schreiben/umlaute.html

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Re: [Tex-music] PMX automatic beams

2016-02-08 Thread Christian Mondrup

Dirk Laurie wrote:

2016-02-08 1:01 GMT+02:00 Don Simons <dsim...@roadrunner.com>:


I suppose I could look into that.


Don, creating yet more work for an already overworked man is the
last thing I wish to do. I was hoping that people who regularly use
PMX could help me with a feature newer than say 15 years old, since
that is more or less the snapshot of PMX that got frozen into M-Tx.
André's recent exhibition of virtuosity opened my eyes to the
existence of PMX users that operate on a noticably higher plane than
I do.

As for this piece, I have decided that the original composer should
have doubled all note lengths and made four-bar phrases. It looks
ever so much better that way, allowing more flexible line breaks
too.

Fortunately the operation involved little more in the M-Tx source
than telling the editor to replace all 4's by 2's, all 8's by 4's
and all 1's by 8's, in that order!


I'm using another text input engraver, MUP having this beaming
approach: Rather than presuming a 'standard' beaming for a meter MUP
lets all notes be default unbeamed. The user may declare beaming
patterns on score, staff and voice levels. A staff level beaming
overrules the score level beaming for the staff in question, and a voice
level beaming overrules the staff level beaming. You are free to change
beaming patterns where you want. A meter change cancels all declared
beaming patterns.

Maybe PMX and M-Tx could have a similar, additional beaming feature?

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Re: [Tex-music] Piano pedal notation

2016-01-21 Thread Christian Mondrup

Dirk Laurie wrote:

2016-01-21 1:37 GMT+02:00 Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.med...@gmail.com>:


, i.e. a straight and breaking line below the staff, something like this:


   |__|




  Is anything similar possibile with MusiXTeX, and how?


Well, of course anything is possible with MusiXTeX, since all of
TeX is available. The following command simply draws the three
line segments below the staff.

\zchar{-6}{\vrule height0pt depth10pt width0.5pt
\vrule height-9.5pt depth10pt width8\elemskip
\vrule height0pt depth10pt width0.5pt}%

I inserted it into the .tex file made by `musixtex -t mozart`
from the source `mozart.mtx` that comes with M-Tx and
then `musixtex mozart.tex` gives the attached result.

Converting the above ad-hoc construction to a convenient
macro is left as an exercise for the reader.


Another approach to line drawing for pedal marks etc. is the use of 
postscript specials through pstricks. An example is my modern edition of 
a 5-part madrigal by Orazio Vecchi, 'Gioite tutti'


http://imslp.org/wiki/Gioite_tutti_(Vecchi,_Orazio)

where I apply pstricks line drawing to implement marks for mensural 
notation ligatures and hemioles. The TeX coding is in the file 
'MyMacros.tex' found in the zip file


http://imslp.org/images/0/0b/WIMA.c933-gioite.zip

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Re: [Tex-music] M-Tx 0.61a

2016-01-16 Thread Christian Mondrup

Dirk Laurie wrote:

I have pushed to
https://github.com/dlaurie/M-Tx
a version that exploits the improved multibar rests in MusiXTeX
and PMX, resulting in a net code saving of about 45 lines. Thanks
Bob and Don!

If you already have a cloned repository, 'git pull` is all you need.

This is not yet a release, only a release candidate. Reports of
testing welcome.


Multi bar rests are nicely centered when I process separate parts from 
my test score, a 5-part madrigal by Orazio Vecchi. The separate parts 
involve explicit PMX 'rm' expressions.




One issue of which I am aware is that in purely instrumental pieces
the last line may be overfull. The workaround is to comment out
\input musixlyr from the TeX file after the PMX step.
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Re: [Tex-music] PMX 2.72

2016-01-13 Thread Christian Mondrup

Bob Tennent wrote:

  >|> If you
  >|> can't build pmxab using the usual ./configure and make in
  >|> the tarball, I am interested; otherwise, not.
  >|
  >|Yes, ./configure ... works.

Thanks. And apparently works on all the texlive platforms
including OS-X. I'm sure it will work on fedora and ubuntu
as well.

  >|But f2c and gfortran compilations are much faster. With
  >|gfortran I don't even need to interchange the getargs
  >|calls.

Faster because you're using the stock libf2c instead of
compiling libf2c. But if the result crashes ...

If faster compilation is really important to you, you could
compile and install the patched libf2c sources once and for
all. That might save you ten seconds of compilation time
every time there's a new release of pmx.

Don is having enough trouble compiling pmxab without having
to deal with libf2c issues.


I don't expect Don 2 worry about f2c. I just posted to tex-music in 
order to inform other linux users about my observation. And I explained 
privately in more details since you asked.




Best,
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Re: [Tex-music] PMX 2.72

2016-01-13 Thread Christian Mondrup

Dirk Laurie wrote:

2016-01-13 20:04 GMT+02:00 Bob Tennent <r...@cs.queensu.ca>:


Don is having enough trouble compiling pmxab without having
to deal with libf2c issues.


Let's be clear on this. f2c and p2c are legacy kludges, dating back
to the 1990's and not well maintained. It may be CTAN policy to
allow only C, but the sensible thing is to compile Fortran with
a Fortran compiler and Pascal with a Pascal compiler.


judged from pmx 2.72 the GNU fortran compiler gfortran compiles the pmx 
source files out of the box. Gfortran is available for (at least) linux, 
mac OSX and windows.


'free pascal' compiles M-Tx pascal sources, also out of the box. The 
compiler is available for the same OSes.



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Re: [Tex-music] PMX 2.72

2016-01-13 Thread Christian Mondrup

dsim...@roadrunner.com wrote:

Here are links to the new version of PMX:

http://icking-music-archive.org/software/pmx/pmx272.zip

http://icking-music-archive.org/software/pmx/pmx.zip

pmx272.zip is the Dos/Windows version I put together, while pmx.zip
is one Bob Tennent derived from mine, including both 32- and 64-bit
executables and a TDS compliant directory structure.

I've tried to make it compatible with MusiXTeX 1.21 and in fact have
modified pmx.tex so that it will stop the TeX compilation if the
MusiXTeX version is not 1.21 or higher. And please do not try to use
the new executable with any older pmx.tex.

The main work has been "behind the scenes," trying to get horizontal
spacing correct with multibar and centered full-bar rests, especially
in the presence of key, clef, and meter changes. A full list of
updates appears in the html file in the distribution.

All testing on PMX 2.72 will be greatly appreciated.


Compiled with f2c as installed in my linux environment (Mint 17.3) pmxab 
crashes with a segmentation fault. Binaries compiled with gfortran (on 
Dons fortran sources) and with gcc (on Bob's c sources) don't crash.


In separate part scores multi bar rests appear as right offset rather 
than properly centered.


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Re: [Tex-music] PMX 2.72

2016-01-13 Thread Christian Mondrup

Christian Mondrup wrote:

dsim...@roadrunner.com wrote:

Here are links to the new version of PMX:

http://icking-music-archive.org/software/pmx/pmx272.zip

http://icking-music-archive.org/software/pmx/pmx.zip

pmx272.zip is the Dos/Windows version I put together, while pmx.zip
is one Bob Tennent derived from mine, including both 32- and 64-bit
executables and a TDS compliant directory structure.

I've tried to make it compatible with MusiXTeX 1.21 and in fact have
modified pmx.tex so that it will stop the TeX compilation if the
MusiXTeX version is not 1.21 or higher. And please do not try to use
the new executable with any older pmx.tex.

The main work has been "behind the scenes," trying to get horizontal
spacing correct with multibar and centered full-bar rests, especially
in the presence of key, clef, and meter changes. A full list of
updates appears in the html file in the distribution.

All testing on PMX 2.72 will be greatly appreciated.


Compiled with f2c as installed in my linux environment (Mint 17.3) pmxab
crashes with a segmentation fault. Binaries compiled with gfortran (on
Dons fortran sources) and with gcc (on Bob's c sources) don't crash.

In separate part scores multi bar rests appear as right offset rather
than properly centered.


My test case score is M-tx code. Prepmx converts a multibar rest code to 
Tex Code, for example


rm3

to

r9b  /
\\\def\atnextbar{\znotes\mbrest{3}{14}0\en}\
\\\advance\barno2\

If I post edit the pmx file and replace the TeX code with

rm3

like in the base M-tx file then the multi bar rest comes out properly 
centered


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Re: [Tex-music] New version 2.71 of PMX

2016-01-03 Thread Christian Mondrup

Dirk Laurie wrote:

2016-01-02 18:55 GMT+02:00 Christian Mondrup <c...@icking-music-archive.org>:

Bob Tennent wrote:


   >|Andre:
   >|
   >|You should be getting
   >|
   >|\def\atnextbar{\znotes\mbrest3\en}%

Check which pmxab you're using.



The sample from André's log file reports the PMX version:

(C:\Users\Andre\AppData\Roaming\musixtexmf\tex\generic\musixtex\pmx.tex
PMX, a Preprocessor for MusiXTeX, Version 2.71b <26 Dec 15>

André, did you generate your pmx code through M-Tx?


I'm getting fed up with the insinuation that M-Tx is to blame.
I'm not clairvoyant. I can't design programs that anticipate future
breaking changes.


As English is not my mother tongue I've most likely formulated my 
posting to imply definitely not intended insinuations. Until I retired I 
lived from designing and developing database applications. So I know 
exactly what Laurie means by not being clairvoyant.


I just attempted to figure out an explanation on how a 3 argument call 
of a musixtex macro might occur causing a conflict with a newer 
definition of that macro.


I apologize for my unintended insinuation.

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Re: [Tex-music] New version 2.71 of PMX

2016-01-02 Thread Christian Mondrup

Bob Tennent wrote:

  >|Andre:
  >|
  >|You should be getting
  >|
  >|\def\atnextbar{\znotes\mbrest3\en}%

Check which pmxab you're using.



The sample from André's log file reports the PMX version:

(C:\Users\Andre\AppData\Roaming\musixtexmf\tex\generic\musixtex\pmx.tex
PMX, a Preprocessor for MusiXTeX, Version 2.71b <26 Dec 15>

André, did you generate your pmx code through M-Tx?

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Re: [Tex-music] New version 2.71 of PMX

2016-01-01 Thread Christian Mondrup

Don Simons wrote:

Christian wrote:

I've tried various old pmx versions on this source. The oldest that
works is pmx 2.506


I'm impressed that you kept them all around.


I don't. You may pick out any old pmx version from 
http://icking-music-archive.org/software/pmx/




The arpeggio bug has been there ever since 2.507 (May 2005). It only
shows up when the arpeggio extends from one voice to another within a
single staff. There is no problem when it stays in one voice, or goes
from one staff to another. It was caused when I changed the call to
the routine that draws the symbol so that it used  voice number
rather than staff number to index the starting and ending notes. The
logic in 2.506 and before checked whether the indices referred to the
same STAFF and assumed if they didn't, it was going from one staff to
another. Not changing anything within the subroutine, in 2.507, if
the start and end were in different VOICES, it applied the same
logic, and messed up if the voices were in the same staff. I suppose
it's not too surprising that no one had picked this up in 10 years. I
think I have it solved but am waiting to post the corrected version
until I see if there are more bug reports, and until I decide what to
do about the M-Tx multi-bar rest issue.

There was one other issue with the Humoresk file. The midi command
had two 'pi" entries after the sound change option "i" : It56ipipi.
The later PMX versions also choke on this because I changed the
syntax somewhere along the way to where each sound change option
refers to an INSTRUMENT rather than a staff. And Christian had called
for a single instrument with two staves. I don't think I want to make
any changes there...unlike the other problem it can be fixed simply
be deleting one of the "pi"s


I was aware of that - and agree about how to fix the problem

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Re: [Tex-music] New version 2.71 of PMX

2015-12-30 Thread Christian Mondrup

Don Simons wrote:

I've just put together a new version of PMX that accommodates the
recent changes in MusiXTeX. My zip file is available at

http://icking-music-archive.org/software/pmx/pmx271.zip

This focuses on Windows systems, containing only Windows executables,
and guidance for manual upgrading within Windows-centric file
structures.

Bob Tennant has added to this and rearranged it into a TDS-compliant
structure, with executables compiled for Windows (32 and 64 bit) and
OSX, and a pmx.tds.zip file to unzip at the root of a local or
personal texmf tree:

http://icking-music-archive.org/software/pmx/pmx.zip

The most important point about this new version is that it REQUIRES
MusiXTeX 1.21 along with the new pmx.tex; results will be unreliable
otherwise. But old PMX source files should work just fine with the
new setup. In fact, I would really appreciate as much testing as
possible of old (and new) sources.


There seems to be a problem with an arpeggi spanning more than one
voice. The test case is my PMX engraving of Dvorak's Humorske Op. 101 No. 7

http://imslp.org/wiki/8_Humoresques,_Op.101_(Dvořák,_Antonín)#124688

If you process my PMX source with pmx 2.71 you'll notice how the arpeggi 
in bar 10 (and other bars involving arpeggi across 2 voices) descend 
absurdly below the lower note


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[Tex-music] New mail address for Christian Mondrup

2015-11-30 Thread Christian Mondrup
Due to massive spamming abuse of my WIMA mail address for years, 
rec...@icking-music-archive.org I've been forced to delete my old mail 
account and create a new account on the address


c...@icking-music-archive.org

Please use this new address if you need to contact me off-list.

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Re: [Tex-music] M-Tx 0.61

2015-11-29 Thread Christian Mondrup

Bob Tennent wrote:

  >|I have now uploaded revised documentation, as well as the
  >|doc directory containing the files for making it.

There are some silly typos in musixtex.tex version 1.18 that
prevent processing of title.tex; the error message will
claim that \normppff is undefined.

I'll fix this ASAP but if you don't want to wait, either
revert to version 1.17 or remove the spurious 'g' characters
appended to \ppff... commands near the end of the definition
of \comput@fonts.


there are also 'g' characters appended to the definitions of 
\meternorfont\ etc above the definitions of \ppff etc




I've also found that the C version of prepmx version 0.61
segfaults on melisma1.mtx; presumably the Pascal version
doesn't.


prepmx doesn't segfault on my mint 17.2 laptop as compiled with fpc


This will be hard to track down. Version 0.60
seems to be okay.

And finally, I'm finding that the music examples in the
final pdf output are scrunched left, as if there hasn't been
a musixflx pass. But if I watch the pdf file, I can see the
music is first scrunched, then properly spaced, and finally
scrunched again. I don't know why.

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Re: [Tex-music] M-Tx 0.61

2015-11-29 Thread Christian Mondrup

Dirk Laurie wrote:

2015-11-28 19:56 GMT+02:00 Christian Mondrup <rec...@icking-music-archive.org>:


cd doc
make
...
! I can't find file `title.tex'.
 ...tore  \begin {mus} \input title.tex
   \bigskip \end {mus} \@@par
l.44   }}


Well, 'title' is listed in "mtxdoc = ..." in buildmtxdoc.lua, so
'title.tex' should be made from 'title.mtx'.

Try

 make > build.log

Does buikl,log contain this line?

 Processing title.mtx.


it doesn't. The only similar output I see is

Processing mtxdoc.tex

i.e. the first element of the list mtxdoc.$(target). If I process 
title.mtx manually (prepmx and pmxab) and launch make again I get a 
similar error message on mozart.tex


To me it looks like make never gets to process the elements of $(examples)



What do you see after that? On my system, a little later follows


the last thing I see in the log is

(Press Enter to retry, or Control-D to exit)
Please type another input file name:

reflecting that tex 'hangs', waiting for user input

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Re: [Tex-music] M-Tx 0.61

2015-11-28 Thread Christian Mondrup

Dirk Laurie wrote:


I have now uploaded revised documentation, as well as the doc directory
containing the files for making it. In line with GitHub policy, there are no
zipfiles, but the instructions for making them are in the Makefiles.


...
cd doc
make
...
! I can't find file `title.tex'.
 ...tore  \begin {mus} \input title.tex
  \bigskip \end {mus} 
\@@par

l.44   }}



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Re: [Tex-music] M-Tx 0.61

2015-11-27 Thread Christian Mondrup

Dirk Laurie wrote:



I am also, to my shock, no longer qualified to build the documentation
from scratch. In my own development directory it builds, but when
I try it from source in a fresh directory, up pops a nasty message
while loading pmx.tex


I've had a glance through mtxdoc.pdf. It strikes me that all full column 
width music examples go very close to the left paper edge, some of them 
even past the edge. You might consider publishing a 0.61 distribution 
including a revised documentation.


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Re: [Tex-music] WIMA homepage broken link

2015-11-11 Thread Christian Mondrup

Dieter wrote:

Thanks, Christian!


Please be aware that the information in my WIMA page on preparing pdf 
scores hasn't been maintained for years



Regards Dieter

Am 10.11.2015 um 19:37 schrieb Christian Mondrup:

Christian Mondrup wrote:

Dieter wrote:

When I click on this: *Preparing PDF scores in *
<http://icking-music-archive.org/scores/Pdf_scores_HOWTO.php>


Der Fehler war tatsächlich eine fehlende php-Datei im Ordner. Beseitigt.
Bitte nochmal versuchen.


OOPPSS - I answered in German assuming the message to be private.

The meaning of my answer: problem fixed, please try again


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Re: [Tex-music] WIMA homepage broken link

2015-11-10 Thread Christian Mondrup

Dieter wrote:

When I click on this: *Preparing PDF scores in *
<http://icking-music-archive.org/scores/Pdf_scores_HOWTO.php>

**
<http://icking-music-archive.org/scores/Pdf_scores_HOWTO.php>*http://icking-music-archive.org/index.php

*I get : "Warning*:  require(ick-utils.inc) [function.require
<http://icking-music-archive.org/scores/function.require>]: failed to
open stream: No such file or directory
in*/home3/wima/public_html/scores/Pdf_scores_HOWTO.php*  on line*18"
presumably a missing or incomplete link.


Der Fehler war tatsächlich eine fehlende php-Datei im Ordner. Beseitigt. 
Bitte nochmal versuchen.


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Re: [Tex-music] WIMA homepage broken link

2015-11-10 Thread Christian Mondrup

Christian Mondrup wrote:

Dieter wrote:

When I click on this: *Preparing PDF scores in *
<http://icking-music-archive.org/scores/Pdf_scores_HOWTO.php>

**
<http://icking-music-archive.org/scores/Pdf_scores_HOWTO.php>*http://icking-music-archive.org/index.php


*I get : "Warning*:  require(ick-utils.inc) [function.require
<http://icking-music-archive.org/scores/function.require>]: failed to
open stream: No such file or directory
in*/home3/wima/public_html/scores/Pdf_scores_HOWTO.php*  on line*18"
presumably a missing or incomplete link.


Der Fehler war tatsächlich eine fehlende php-Datei im Ordner. Beseitigt.
Bitte nochmal versuchen.


OOPPSS - I answered in German assuming the message to be private.

The meaning of my answer: problem fixed, please try again



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Re: [Tex-music] Metronomic indications in PMX

2015-10-23 Thread Christian Mondrup

Dirk Laurie wrote:

2015-10-23 2:30 GMT+02:00 Don Simons <dsim...@roadrunner.com>:

It does more than modify the font...it seems to be seeing the note symbol
from \metron as a note that uses up one of the syllables of the lyrics line.
This is not a PMX problem. We need to figure out a way to keep the lyrics
machinery from seeing the \metron note that way. I glanced at the TeX in
musixlyr but I'm afraid it's beyond my pay grade. I'm surprised this hasn't
come up before. Dirk?


musixlyr works by redefining the `\writ@note` macro.
The original macro is saved as `\orig@writ@note`.
All spacing notes sooner or later get to `\writ@note`.


I've frequently been using \metron in my modern editions of mensural 
notation early music sources for indicating tempo relations at 
transitions between tempus perfectum and tempus imperfectum. As example 
pdf scores and mtx sources at:


(http://imslp.org/wiki/Selva_di_varia_ricreatione_(Vecchi,_Orazio)

Here is how I circumvent the problem

\def\mymetron#1#2{\lyricsoff\smallnotesize\metron{#1}{#2 1}\lyricson}

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Re: [Tex-music] Trying tu upload file to http://imslp.org

2015-10-01 Thread Christian Mondrup

Rodolfo Medina wrote:

Hi all.

This morning I was happy to be finally ready to upload to http://imslp.org my
re-typesetting of J. S. Bach's BWV Anh 114 in TeX format, but didn't manage to:
the system complains:

  File #1: Error: Bad file title or disallowed file type.

.  I don't know what's wrong.  Please help or someone upload him/herself the
file I'm attaching below.


IMSLP distributes primarily ready-to-print pdf scores. So you should 
upload a pdf file prepared out of your MusiXTeX engraving file. I 
recommend that you also upload the MusiXTeX source packed into a zip file.


BTW please mind the stem direction of the first right hand note, f# in 
bar 7!


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Re: [Tex-music] musix-tex sources repositories?

2015-07-23 Thread Christian Mondrup

Rodolfo Medina wrote:

Dear all tex-musix users,

first of all, it is a real luck that such a software exists, thanks to its
author...  and happily I feel to be part of the community.

I've sometimes downloaded classical music scores in PDF format from

  http://imslp.org

, a great repository.  Now, I wish there was something similar - not so big, of
course -, anyway a repository of tex-musix source files.  The one at CTAN:

  https://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/musixtex/doc/examples


Once in the 90's of the preceding century the late Werner Icking 
(1943-2001) founded a web site, the 'GMD Music Archive' dedicated to 
musixtex related software and to scores engraved with that software. 
From 2001 until 2012 the site was actively maintained under the name 
'Werner Icking Music Archive', WIMA, offering musixtex related software 
and a large collection of scores, including musixtex engravings plus 
scores engraved with many other software packages. WIMA's primary 
publishing policy was to offer engraving files along with the PDF 
scores. The maintenance of the score collection stayed a vulnerable 
one-person task. Therefore I negotiated a merge with our sister project, 
IMSLP, see http://icking-music-archive.org/IMSLP.php. The merge was 
completed in summer 2012.


The complete WIMA collection incl. its engraving files is available in 
IMSLP. WIMA offers a search facility allowing you to look up a.o. 
engraving files. Enter a few suitable lower case words like some of 
'musixtex', 'pmx', 'mtx', 'bach' in the text field near the upper right 
corner of an IMSLP page and click the 'go' button. That'll help you to 
find and access (zipped) engraving files which you may use as examples.


I second Don's suggestion to try out his PMX software. A related project 
specifically useful for engraving vocal music is Dirk Laurie's M-Tx package.


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Re: [Tex-music] Implied license

2015-07-23 Thread Christian Mondrup

Dirk Laurie wrote:

Much of the material on WIMA is not explicitly licensed.

Suppose I borrow some TeX code off there and use it in something
I distribute on a site that demands everything must be licensed.
Can I assume that code submitted to WIMA is automatically GPL
unless explicitly stated otherwise?


As part of WIMA's merge with IMSLP all WIMA contributors were contacted 
regarding IMSLP licensing of their contributions. They were asked to 
contact me if they did not consent to having their contributions 
published in IMSLP under the conditions of the 'Creative Commons 
Attribution Non-commercial Share Alike' license. I got negative answers 
from very few contributors, positive feedback from quite a few. As 
expected the majority of contributors consented silently.


This enquiry was essential to the IMSLP in order to leave no ambiguity 
as to the licensing of the WIMA sub collection. So regarding further use 
of WIMA score engraving files the conditions should be clear.


These words do not, however, answer the question of musixtex software 
licensing.

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Re: [Tex-music] Strange page orientation with pstops

2014-12-06 Thread Christian Mondrup

Jean-Pierre Coulon wrote:

On Sat, 6 Dec 2014, Olivier Vogel wrote:


It's difficult to compile your source without the figures.


I agree, but what is our list's filtering policy? I tried to send 1: a
zip of the 8 eps files, 2: the 8 unzipped eps files, but my mail doesn't
show up!

Is there a moderator?


Mauricio Codogno has that role

Your postings are held due to message bodies exceeding a max size of 400 KB



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Re: [Tex-music] Mirrors of our Maiing List?

2014-12-06 Thread Christian Mondrup

Dieter wrote:

Hi Christian,

I really do not want anything being mirrored. So my questions are (to
you and the MusixTex community):
(1) Who is behind gmane.org


as I wrote in my previous posting that information is available at 
http://gmane.org/faq.php



and mail-archive.com, who are already
mirorring our mail?
(2) Does anyone see any benefit in these mirroring activities?
(3) Have they been authorized by Werner Icking Music Archive
tex-music@tug.org to do so?


yes, many years ago we actively asked mail-archive.com to mirror our 
list in order to provide a searchable list archive, see the top left 
'menu lines' of WIMA's welcoming page, 
http://icking-music-archive.org/index.php



(4) How can they do this technically and legally?
(5) What can we do to stop this and remove our mails from these sites?


Personally I don't want to nor see any reason to drop these two mirrorings

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Re: [Tex-music] Mirrors of our Maiing List?

2014-12-05 Thread Christian Mondrup

maurizio .mau. codogno wrote:

On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Dieter d.gloet...@web.de wrote:

hi,

I discovered some of my contributions to this mailing list on certain mirror
sites:

 permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.music/675


comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.music/682

https://www.mail-archive.com/tex.../msg03583.html

Are you aware of this? Is this wanted? Does anybody know anything about
this?



mail-archive.org is actually a mirror; the other ones are unknown at
least to me.


I've had a look at the other 2 links. By reading the gmane.org 'about' 
information, http://gmane.org/faq.php I feel comfortable about this 
project. If we really want its mirroring of texmusic taken down there 
are instructions on how to accomplish that. But I don't see any reason 
to do so.


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Re: [Tex-music] Scanner Input for PMX

2014-11-17 Thread Christian Mondrup

Dieter wrote:

Just to report a little progress in interpreting the MusicXML stuff.
The attached notes were scanner output, so the reproduction cannot be
perfect, but apart from the blind meter change due to the  pickup
everything was generated.



A few problems

Bar 8, lower voice: the first quarter-note should have stem down

Bar 11, upper voice: the 2 quarter-notes should have stem up

Bar 11, lower voice: the first quarter-note should be right offset from 
the upper voice half-note


Bar 13: lower voice: the second quarter-note should have stem down

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Re: [Tex-music] Scanner Input for PMX

2014-11-11 Thread Christian Mondrup

Christian Mondrup wrote:

Dieter wrote:

Hi Christian,

thanks for your investigation. In fact at this stage of work I was
interested only in the notes, because this is the bulk work.

Right now I am working on a solution vor two voices in one staff.

The funny words in the lyrics are inaccuracies of the scanning process.
Certainly the lyrics part has not got such a high priority.

Could you please send me a printout of what Musescore made out of the
XML?


Bitte siehe Anhang. Erstellt aus dem MuseScore save as Menü.

Seit einigen Jahren benutze ich selten musixtex, und dann nur bei
Korrekturen und Erneuerungen schon vorhandener Notensätze. Neue
Editionen stelle ich durch MUP, auch open source, textbasiertes
software, her. Siehe http://www.arkkra.com/

Mit freundlichen Grüßen


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Re: [Tex-music] Scanner Input for PMX

2014-11-10 Thread Christian Mondrup

Don Simons wrote:

After seeing Christian's post, I compiled Dieter's pmx and quickly compared
it to his xml (as viewed with Finale NotePad). Aside from the 8 on the clef
of the Tenor part, and the extra space at the start of each bar (which was
clearly intentional) I didn't notice any other notable differences. So
Christian, I'm very curious what you are referring to as indications of
problems.


After yet another look at the outputs from the xml and pmx files I 
actually notice only a minor note flaw in bar 11. And that flaw is in 
the xml file only: the second soprano note has an extra 1/8 flag - 
ignored in the pmx output.


There are indeed problems in the xml lyrics: lots of missing hyphens and 
obviously wrong words like 'io-fty', bar 11 soprano. These problems are 
not (yet) reflected in the pmx output rendering no lyrics at all. Are 
the wrong words just typos?


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Re: [Tex-music] M-Tx, first bar shorter and then a repeat

2014-01-31 Thread Christian Mondrup

Dirk Laurie wrote:

2014-01-30 Don Simons dsim...@roadrunner.com:


So problem solved? Why go any further?


Well, actually M-Tx is supposed to be clever enough to
do this (and does, when it is a plain barline). So failing
to do so when it is a repeat counts as a bug. I'll try to
hunt it down (although I've stopped thinking of myself
as M-Tx maintainer after some others, notably Christian,
have stepped into the breach).


I'm afraid I need to disappoint those expecting me to maintain M-Tx. 
That role should be taken by active users of the software. For some 
years I've been using MusiXTeX and friends only for fixing bugs in my 
existing M-Tx engravings while I'm using another open source engraver, 
MUP for my ongoing projects.




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Re: [Tex-music] Christof Biebricher, Bach BWV 1052, PMX

2013-10-25 Thread Christian Mondrup

Jean-Pierre Coulon wrote:

On Thu, 24 Oct 2013, Rutger Hofman wrote:


I have completed the corrections for all 3 movements; Biebricher made
quite some errors in mvt 1, fewer in 2, still fewer in 3. Is there any
interest in the errata list? Should I mention that I corrected only
clear errors?


I think this is a question about imslp habits. I have never seen such
erratas or comments on imslp. In doubt ask in
http://imslpforums.org/viewforum.php?f=2


Many of own WIMA/IMSLP editions include critical notes where I specify 
the changes I made in relation to my source(s). I suggest that you 
prepare such notes for your revised edition of Biebricher's arrangement. 
In the critical notes you could refer to Biebricher's editions as well 
as to J.S.Bach sources to the music. You should also specify the change 
of engraving software.



What is the correct next step? I would overwrite Biebricher's sheets
on IMSLP with the corrected ones; remove the .pmx and .tex archives;
and upload a lilypond .zip in their place. Of course the current
uploads will stay in the IMSLP archives.


I appreciate that make your engraving files part of your edition thereby 
making it possible for IMSLP users to adapt your edition to their need. 
I'm sure Cristoph Biebericher would have appreciated that as well.


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Re: [Tex-music] Christof Biebricher, Bach BWV 1052, PMX

2013-09-16 Thread Christian Mondrup

Don Simons wrote:

Jean-Pierre--

I'd be willing to try, although after looking at the source files I
see that it's going to be very complicated to reconstruct Christof's
steps in producing the final score and parts.


I know from my long term correspondence with Christof that he was
applying rexx scripting (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rexx) for
preparing his pmx/tex engraving files. When publishing his editions he
did not, however, provide his scripting files along with the resulting
pmx- and tex- files. So you need to imagine the programming steps he may
have taken.

Rutger Hofman wrote:

Yes, I compared to 1052 (hpsd). One really obvious one that I double
and triple-checked: Biebricher has a missing measure in mvt 1, bar
72. E.g. in the BGA 1052 on Imslp, that is page 8, bottom system, 3rd
bar.


I've checked with the IMSLP copies of the BGA editions of BWV 1052 and 
the earlier version BWB 1052a. There's no doubt that Cristof per 
accidence missed one of the 2 E minor bars 71-72. There's also very 
little doubt that J.S.Bach wrote his music around these bars with 2 bar 
periods in mind. Hence a performance with bar 72 missing is going to be 
musically unsatisfying.


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Re: [Tex-music] How to make straight quavers swing?

2013-03-20 Thread Christian Mondrup

Dieter wrote:

Thanks for the ideas of Cornelius and Andre.
I am working on a little program to do the conversion from 2 quavers to
a triplet of quavers with a tie on the first two.
I will let you know, when I have made progress.


The text based engraving software, MUP (http://www.arkkra.com/) which 
has been open source for some time has support for MIDI 'swing'. The 
MIDI program logic is located in the c source file mkchords.c


Maybe some ideas could be picked out from there.

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Re: [Tex-music] Archive stats observations and mysteries

2011-07-01 Thread Christian Mondrup

Don Simons wrote:


Thanks to Christian for adding the .zip files to the webalizer. Now, with
help from the filtering capabilities of Excel, I can quickly whittle down
the list of 100K+ files to just the 202 .zip's in the software directory or
below.

When I do that, a VERY curious result appears: I haven't checked for sure,
but it looks like every single file in the archive has been downloaded at
least once, including of course many that are not linked from any of the web
pages. Any good ideas how or why that could happen?


Just a guess: the counts are file accesses rather than more specifically 
downloads. If that is true any file has been accessed at least once when 
it was uploaded.



What exactly counts as a
download in these stats?

BTW, there were only 11 such files with1 download (in ~4 days), with
musixtex.zip leading at 14, and musixflx.pkg.zip and pmx2613.zip tied for
2nd at 5. Curiously, the 3 bitmapped musixtex font files were each
downloaded twice; I would have assumed those were completely obsolete.


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Re: [Tex-music] Archive stats observations and mysteries

2011-06-27 Thread Christian Mondrup

Jean-Pierre Coulon wrote:

On Sun, 26 Jun 2011, Don Simons wrote:




Other topic: who can explain such a line:

1 0.00% 127 0.00%
/ByComposer.php/scores/ByComposer/scores/ByComposer/ByComposer/scores/ByComposer/Dowland.php



Looks really weird. There are quite a few such cases. WIMA has no such 
path; so I suppose URL accesses like that origin from buggy links in 
other sites out there.




in the huge View All URLs page?
http://icking-music-archive.org/usage/url_201106.html




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Re: [Tex-music] Archive stats observations and mysteries

2011-06-26 Thread Christian Mondrup

Don Simons wrote:

I've been browsing the stats for WIMA, available to all at
http://www.icking-music-archive.org/usage/

In June, through 6/26, of 1366924 recorded hits, only 8075 or 0.59% were to
the software pages. I guess I'm not surprised at that ratio; I can believe
that 170 times more people want to download free scores rather than typeset
music. But as best I could determine, there were no hits at all recorded for
any .zip files, including of course musixtex.zip, pmx250.zip, and
pmx2610.zip. I can't believe that no one at all downloaded any of those
files. Does anyone have any idea what's going on here? Does the software
simply not record hits to zip files? Or maybe not to zip.files if they are
saved rather than opened?


Way back I configured webalizer to count accesses on a limited number of 
file types:


IgnoreURL   *
IncludeURL  *.pdf
IncludeURL  *.php
IncludeURL  *.html

Now I've included .zip files into the count.

IncludeURL  *.zip

But it'll take some time until the figures for zip files get comparable 
to those for the other 3 file types




There are also 177 hits to pages in the memorial folder. As best I can
determine, there are no remaining links on the main page to anything in that
folder (I looked at the source and they seem to be commented out). Does
anyone have any idea what's going on here? Could that many people have been
both clever and inquisitive enough to look in the page's source?


I believe the counts for the memorial pages are caused by someone out 
there linking to those pages. Even if the WIMA links have been commented 
out the content they're referring to is still there.



I know at
first I wasn't; I first found the missing link through my server access to
the archive.  I have gone there several times and did give one other person
that link, but it doesn't seem like that could have accounted for so many
hits.

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Re: [Tex-music] Coda Sign in PMX

2011-05-04 Thread Christian Mondrup

DIETER glötzel wrote:

  Many thanks again, Don!

do you have somewhere a font table for musixfont or a routine to
generate it?


tex testfont

at the prompt enter a font name, e.g. musix16

\table

\bye

the result is a dvi file testfont.dvi in current working directory

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Re: [Tex-music] WIMA

2011-04-08 Thread Christian Mondrup

Dirk Laurie wrote:

It is possible that some members of this list have not recently visited
WIMA http://icking-music-archive.org itself.

There is a discussion on the future of WIMA that we should be aware of.


I encourage Tex-Music subscribers to participate in that discussion.

Let me emphasize, though, that the discussion is primarily focussed on 
WIMA's sheet music activities: they're increasingly vulnerable with just 
one, not that young person, yours sincerely, as manager.


In order to have WIMA's score collection maintained in the long run we 
_must_ transform WIMA into a fully collaborative project.


WIMA's software activities are on a much more modest level. I have my 
hands full with the score activities and hence participate only sparsely 
in the management of the MusiXTeX related activities. Luckily there is a 
group of persons taking responsibility with Don as a highly competent 
'boss'. I don't see any urgent need for changing the web interface of 
the MusiXTeX WIMA interface like that under discussion for the score 
collection. But maybe WIMA's MusiXTeX section could benefit from a 
'modernization'. Please feel to comment on that in the new WIMA forum, 
http://forums.icking-music-archive.org/index.php


Concerning this mailing list we should definitely make no changes after 
TUG (TeX User Group) has taken over the hosting.


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Re: [Tex-music] New full MusiXTeX distribution now available

2011-04-07 Thread Christian Mondrup

Jean-Pierre Coulon wrote:

I just corrected a few English mistakes in sottieng.pdf (already
uploaded on WIMA).



OK

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Re: [TeX-Music] M-Tx, number of staves

2010-06-11 Thread Christian Mondrup

Dirk Laurie wrote:

On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 07:05:54AM +0200, Don Simons wrote:


3. (and here's where it gets really ugly) use a special FORTRAN program I
wrote to go through the prepmx output file, looking for and deleting every
occurrence of

rp |
rp |


PMX and M-Tx both carry heavily the baggage of what programming
languages their developers knew back when.

In the meantime, some very interesting programming languages have
become available.

The above job, and indeed everything currently done by PMX and M-Tx,
is miles easier in Python than in Fortran or Pascal.  (Actually,
this job can also be done by even a primitive text editor.)
Python can also take care of the whole tex-musixflx-tex cycle.

If there are any programmers on the list who would be interested
in a Python project for an updated M-Tx, please e-mail me so that
we don't have yet another one-person effort.


I certainly support the idea of converting M-Tx to a collective software 
development project. I've done some patches through the past years to 
accommodate M-Tx to my needs - and will happily leave the maintenance to 
others.


I have a minor reservation for the python idea, though. It's a scripting 
language like perl requiring a python interpreter installed. Unless 
python supports generation of stand-alone binaries I foresee 
difficulties for Windows users not familiar with software installation.




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Re: [TeX-Music] M-Tx, number of staves

2010-06-04 Thread Christian Mondrup

Jean-Pierre Coulon wrote:

On Fri, 4 Jun 2010, Hermann Hinsch wrote:


Hi all,

would it be possible to change in a score the number of staves within
a system? I had this problem a few years ago and solved this problem
by using an individual mtx-file for each group of systems with the
same number of staves, making eps-files and combine these files by
LaTeX's icludegraphics. Maybe there is another more convenient method?


Even in MusiXTeX I don't know how to do this. May you could study this
thread:
http://www.mail-archive.com/icking-music-archive.org-tex-music@mailman.nfit.au.dk/msg02177.html


and adapt this paragraph:

\off{6pt} % hard space
\roffset{2}{\psframe[linestyle=none,fillstyle=solid,fillcolor=white](0pt,4\internote)(6pt,14\internote)}%


to put some white paint on the staff portions you don't want to see. Are
you with TeX or LaTeX?



Another approach is to use psfig for including eps files into a plain 
TeX master script, something like


\input psfig.sty
\psfig{file=my_page.eps}

The vertical positioning of the included eps file may be tweaked by 
applying \lower or \raise on the \psfig expression, something like


\lower 7mm\psfig{file=my_page.eps}

If the number of staffs don't change within pages, then a simple and 
efficient method is to merge pdf pages using the utility pdftk, 
http://www.accesspdf.com/pdftk/


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[TeX-Music] TeX-Music moves to the new WIMA server

2010-03-29 Thread Christian Mondrup

Dear all.

TeX-Music is going to be moved from its current hosting at DAIMI to the 
new WIMA server.


Please don't post new messages to the list until the move has been 
completed.


A message will be sent to you with the required instructions (if any) to 
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[TeX-Music] Test - please ignore

2010-03-15 Thread Christian Mondrup

Test - please ignore
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[TeX-Music] WIMA has been restored on a new server

2010-03-08 Thread Christian Mondrup

Dear all.

This afternoon the restore of WIMA on a new server localized in 
California, USA, has been completed. It'll last about 24 hours until 
name servers world wide have adapted to the IP number (that's technical 
talk) of the new server. Then WIMA will be accessible on its current web 
address, http://icking-music-archive.org/


The cost of the new server is sponsored by an IT company in my home town 
Arhus, Denmark; a company providing IT services for cultural 
institutions like The Royal Academy of Music, Aarhus, the school of 
music which hosted WIMA from 2003 til 2007.


Massimo Capozza has generously undertaken the restore operations. 
Massimo is owner of Choralia, a site providing training aids for choral 
singers, and IT manager for CPDL, The Choral Public Domain Library. 
Massimo will also manage future server side hosting operations.


The Choral Public Domain Library provides the vital backup of WIMA data 
on another server owned by CPDL.


WIMA opens with an unchanged user interface; you'll hardly experience 
any difference. It is my long term plan, though, to migrate WIMA to a 
MediaWiki site having a user interface closely related to that of CPDL 
(and IMSLP, The International Music Score Library Project). WIMA and 
CPDL will remain independent, distinct sites. I expect, however, that 
related site technologies will facilitate a closer cooperation between 
WIMA and CPDL, thereby reducing the vulnerability of WIMA.


Unfortunately this means that we have to set aside an ambitious 
development of WIMA2, a fully database driven, fully searchable WIMA 
interface. Martin Packham, long term WIMA contributor, has spent 2 years 
of invaluable efforts in that project. Hopefully the planned MediaWiki 
interface can benefit from insight and knowledge gained through that 
project.


Massimo Capozza has created a new bulletin board frame work for 
discussion of various WIMA issues like the preparation of a future 
MediWiki interface. Within short I'll add links to the bulletin boards 
and encourage you to join the preparations for the future WIMA.


When WIMA reopens I must be prepared for errors caused by the restore. 
So I'll need a period for consolidating WIMA on its new server. In this 
period I'll not add new scores to WIMA. When I'm confident with the 
restore I'll add new upload instructions to WIMA's welcoming page.


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Re: [TeX-Music] any new developments?

2010-03-02 Thread Christian Mondrup

Frederic Rzewski wrote:

This is just one of many similar messages I'm getting...


I guess you can imagine how many messages I get from frustrated WIMA 
users. I collect their email addresses and have posted a status mass 
mail a couple of times.


As it looks now it's still most likely that CPDL will be WIMA's future 
partner. I've also got at least one qualified proposal from one of the 
highly profiled US university music sites, 
http://www.library.unt.edu/music which I knew beforehand for its fine 
quality facsimiles


Besides I get hosting proposals from various IT companies offering to 
host WIMA at no cost. So I can hardly doubt that WIMA _will_ eventually 
get up and running.


In between I'm afraid you need to post scores to people needing them

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Re: [TeX-Music] WIMA has been shut down

2010-02-27 Thread Christian Mondrup

Vincent Torri wrote:



On Thu, 25 Feb 2010, Christian Mondrup wrote:


Dear all.

Since 2007 WIMA has been hosted by DAIMI (The Dept. of Computer
Science, University of Aarhus, Denmark).

Unfortunately this has suddenly stopped. A few hours ago the DAIMI
staff, without precedent warning, disabled WIMA's part of the DAIMI
web server. The reason is that WIMA is causing a too high load on
DAIMI's web servers, threatening the faculty activities.

Of course I'll try to find another hosting for WIMA. But I can't say
whether that is possible.

Any suggestions for a new hosting?


maybe OSUOSL : http://osuosl.org/


I contacted OSUOSL yesterday. OSUOSL primarily deals with open source 
projects (which is in itself laudable). So I didn't expect too much. To 
my surprise, however, I received today an answer not at all excluding an 
OSUOSL hosting. They asked for more information on WIMA which I've given 
them. I've had a closer look at their home page and realized that OSUOSL 
seems to have highly powerful sponsors, primarily Google and IBM. So 
they may be not that vulnerable to state cut downs to the university.


I'll keep that possibility open along with the CPDL track.

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Re: [TeX-Music] WIMA has been shut down

2010-02-26 Thread Christian Mondrup

Carlo Centemeri wrote:

It could be worth asking IMSLP? They should be expert in matters of
hosting this kind of projects...

In any case, fwiw, I'm available.


WIMA has had a formal cooperation agreement on exchanging scores with 
IMSLP for some time. I've explained the situation to them. I've also 
asked Wikimedia if they can help. CPDL will investigate whether they 
could host WIMA. Lots of CPDL scores are links to WIMA as part of a 
formal cooperation like that with IMSLP.


There are other ongoing considerations on how to get on

- a distribution of WIMA's sheet music resources based on bittorrent, 
ie. a web load distributed on multiple servers


- inquiries at various academic institutions around the world

Many of you have suggested a paid for web hosting combined with 
donations from WIMA users. I need to be very clear on that matter: I 
will not go into any solution making me dependent on private donations. 
Maintaining the sheet music archives takes up several hours daily. I 
must concentrate on that.


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