Re: [tw5] Re: Set Browser Tab title different from TW Title?

[Aidan Grey]

OOH - that was even better! Thank you!


On Fri, Dec 10, 2021 at 6:14 PM Eric Shulman  wrote:

> To change the text of the window title (but not the SiteTitle or
> SiteSubtitle), edit the shadow tiddler: `$:/core/wiki/title` and set it's
> content to whatever you want.
>
> enjoy,
> -e
>
> On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 9:14:20 AM UTC-8 taale...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Is that possible? If so how?
>>
>> For example, say the name of the TW is  "The South-Eastern Canadian
>> Women's Association Left-Handed Doily Lint Museum for the Benefit of the
>> Children".
>>
>> I want to keep that title on the wiki, but in the browser's tab, I just
>> want "Lint Mus." - how do I do that?
>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Set Browser Tab title different from TW Title?

[Aidan Grey]

Thanks Mark! That worked!

On Fri, Dec 10, 2021 at 4:39 PM 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> This is a kludge, but might work well enough. My assumption is that to
> actually change the title tab would require changing core code. So instead,
> this approach uses CSS to change the title and sub-title displayed on the
> page, while retaining the configured title for the title tab.
>
> Put your short title into the control panel title field. You will need at
> least one character in the sub-title field too.
>
> Put the following a tiddler and tag $:/tags/Stylesheet .
>
> .tc-site-title {
> visibility: hidden;
> position: relative;
> margin-bottom: 60% ;
> }
> .tc-site-title:after {
>  visibility: visible;
>  position: absolute;
> top: 0;
> left: 0;
> content: "The South-Eastern Canadian Women's Association Left-Handed Doily
> Lint Museum " ;
>  }
> .tc-site-subtitle {
>  visibility: hidden;
> position: relative;
> }
> .tc-site-subtitle:after {
>  visibility: visible;
>  position: absolute;
> top: 0;
> left: 0;
> content: "for the Benefit of the Children" ;
>  }
>
> Change the "content:" attributes to your preferred titles. Change the
> margin-bottom: 60% to whatever percent works with your actual text.
>
> This is what it looks like on my system:
>
> [image: lint-mus.png]
> On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 9:14:20 AM UTC-8 taale...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Is that possible? If so how?
>>
>> For example, say the name of the TW is  "The South-Eastern Canadian
>> Women's Association Left-Handed Doily Lint Museum for the Benefit of the
>> Children".
>>
>> I want to keep that title on the wiki, but in the browser's tab, I just
>> want "Lint Mus." - how do I do that?
>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: An easier way to create a band of specific colors

[Aidan Grey]

And I tested and see that I was wrong and that works just fine.

I will investigate and see if I can do multi-char splits on my own.

Thanks again Charlie - really appreciate your expertise!



On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 12:38 PM Aidan Grey  wrote:

> So much awesomeness!
>
> Okay, so I see now it's not my classes, but regular html color names. If I
> want #478AE2, how do I specify that? For some reason, I think [#478AE2]
> isn't right - or am I wrong?
>
> On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 12:34 PM Charlie Veniot 
> wrote:
>
>> And I hybrid, for the giggles:
>>
>> \define beDotted3(likeThis)
>>
>> <$list filter="[[$likeThis$]!is[blank]] [{!!colorway}] +[first[]]
>> +[split[]] +[search-replace:i[y],[yellow]] +[search-replace:i[r],[red]]">
>> <$vars thisStyle={{{ [[min-height:25px;width:25px;background-color:]]
>> [] [[;border-radius:50%;display:inlin-block;border:3px
>> solid black;]] +[join[]] }}}>
>> ] }}}>
>> 
>> 
>>
>> \end
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 3:21:03 PM UTC-4 Charlie Veniot wrote:
>>
>>> If you had as standard the use of a "colorway" field in your tiddlers,
>>> then the macro doesn't need any parameter.
>>>
>>> Maybe something like this?
>>>
>>> \define beDotted2( )
>>>
>>> <$list filter="[{!!colorway}split[]] +[search-replace:i[y],[yellow]]
>>> +[search-replace:i[r],[red]]">
>>> <$vars thisStyle={{{ [[min-height:25px;width:25px;background-color:]]
>>> [] [[;border-radius:50%;display:inlin-block;border:3px
>>> solid black;]] +[join[]] }}}>
>>> ] }}}>
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
>>> \end
>>>
>>>
>>> <>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 3:11:04 PM UTC-4 taale...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If I'm understanding you right, I think currentTiddler is the right
>>>> thing. As an example:
>>>>
>>>> {{!!colorway}}
>>>>
>>>> ! The Title of the Thing and the Stuff
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> where colorway is the field with the long PITA spans.
>>>>
>>>> Using your macro, it would just be
>>>>
>>>> <>
>>>>>
>>>> ! The Title of the Thing and the Stuff
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> and I could get rid of the colorway field altogether
>>>>
>>>> or maybe do something like this?
>>>>
>>>> <>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 11:50 AM Charlie Veniot 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Okay.  Just need to know what the meaty part should be.  (i.e., what
>>>>> should be where the "<>" is?)
>>>>>
>>>>> \define beDotted( likeThis )
>>>>> <$list filter="[[$likeThis$]split[]]">
>>>>> <>
>>>>> 
>>>>> \end
>>>>>
>>>>> <>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 2:42:30 PM UTC-4 Charlie Veniot wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> For sure a macro could do that.  Give me a few minutes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 2:33:00 PM UTC-4 taale...@gmail.com
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oh, sorry - I forgot some details:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I just want to be able to ID colors as a visual example easily -
>>>>>>> they don't have to be dots.
>>>>>>> If I had my druthers, I'd love to have some sort of macro where I
>>>>>>> pass in something like "YRWG" and get the above or similar. Could a
>>>>>>> macro do that?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 11:29:48 AM UTC-7
>>>>>>> taale...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I created some classes to created colored dots, so that I can list
>>>>>>>> specific colors for a project. I call them colorways. An example :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [image: Annotation 2021-11-30 112413.png]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The issue is that coding them is a pita. For example, the code for
>>>>>>>> the above is:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>&

Re: [tw5] Re: An easier way to create a band of specific colors

[Aidan Grey]

So much awesomeness!

Okay, so I see now it's not my classes, but regular html color names. If I
want #478AE2, how do I specify that? For some reason, I think [#478AE2]
isn't right - or am I wrong?

On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 12:34 PM Charlie Veniot  wrote:

> And I hybrid, for the giggles:
>
> \define beDotted3(likeThis)
>
> <$list filter="[[$likeThis$]!is[blank]] [{!!colorway}] +[first[]]
> +[split[]] +[search-replace:i[y],[yellow]] +[search-replace:i[r],[red]]">
> <$vars thisStyle={{{ [[min-height:25px;width:25px;background-color:]]
> [] [[;border-radius:50%;display:inlin-block;border:3px
> solid black;]] +[join[]] }}}>
> ] }}}>
> 
> 
>
> \end
>
> On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 3:21:03 PM UTC-4 Charlie Veniot wrote:
>
>> If you had as standard the use of a "colorway" field in your tiddlers,
>> then the macro doesn't need any parameter.
>>
>> Maybe something like this?
>>
>> \define beDotted2( )
>>
>> <$list filter="[{!!colorway}split[]] +[search-replace:i[y],[yellow]]
>> +[search-replace:i[r],[red]]">
>> <$vars thisStyle={{{ [[min-height:25px;width:25px;background-color:]]
>> [] [[;border-radius:50%;display:inlin-block;border:3px
>> solid black;]] +[join[]] }}}>
>> ] }}}>
>> 
>> 
>>
>> \end
>>
>>
>> <>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 3:11:04 PM UTC-4 taale...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> If I'm understanding you right, I think currentTiddler is the right
>>> thing. As an example:
>>>
>>> {{!!colorway}}
>>>
>>> ! The Title of the Thing and the Stuff
>>>
>>>
>>> where colorway is the field with the long PITA spans.
>>>
>>> Using your macro, it would just be
>>>
>>> <>

>>> ! The Title of the Thing and the Stuff
>>>
>>>
>>> and I could get rid of the colorway field altogether
>>>
>>> or maybe do something like this?
>>>
>>> <>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 11:50 AM Charlie Veniot 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Okay.  Just need to know what the meaty part should be.  (i.e., what
 should be where the "<>" is?)

 \define beDotted( likeThis )
 <$list filter="[[$likeThis$]split[]]">
 <>
 
 \end

 <>

 On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 2:42:30 PM UTC-4 Charlie Veniot wrote:

> For sure a macro could do that.  Give me a few minutes.
>
> On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 2:33:00 PM UTC-4 taale...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Oh, sorry - I forgot some details:
>>
>> I just want to be able to ID colors as a visual example easily - they
>> don't have to be dots.
>> If I had my druthers, I'd love to have some sort of macro where I
>> pass in something like "YRWG" and get the above or similar. Could a
>> macro do that?
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 11:29:48 AM UTC-7 taale...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I created some classes to created colored dots, so that I can list
>>> specific colors for a project. I call them colorways. An example :
>>>
>>> [image: Annotation 2021-11-30 112413.png]
>>>
>>> The issue is that coding them is a pita. For example, the code for
>>> the above is:
>>>
>>> >> class= "cwd ylw">
>>>
>>> where
>>>
>>>- cwd is a class that creates colorway dots
>>>- ylw (and red, wht, grn) is a class that makes the dot yellow
>>>
>>> Can anyone think of an easier way to do this?
>>>
>>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: An easier way to create a band of specific colors

[Aidan Grey]

You are awesome Charlie! Thanks!

Checking if I understand how this works:
basically, it just splits [the list | the field value] by each letter and
replaces it with the "code" from my classes, right? So if there are 15
possible color-classes, I would just add as many of the
"+[search-replace:i[r],[red]]" pieces as needed, such
as +[search-replace:i[p],[ppl]]?

The thisStyle line is just the CSS for the dot shape etc, correct? (you
almost EXACTLY guessed my formatting for the class - or maybe you inspected
:) )

And all together, it just recreates the span details i'm using now, on the
fly, right?

Why the  between the span tags though?

And could the split be larger? Say 2 or 3 characters? (then I can use
pk/pnk for pink instead of n because p is already taken by purple...)




On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 12:21 PM Charlie Veniot  wrote:

> If you had as standard the use of a "colorway" field in your tiddlers,
> then the macro doesn't need any parameter.
>
> Maybe something like this?
>
> \define beDotted2( )
>
> <$list filter="[{!!colorway}split[]] +[search-replace:i[y],[yellow]]
> +[search-replace:i[r],[red]]">
> <$vars thisStyle={{{ [[min-height:25px;width:25px;background-color:]]
> [] [[;border-radius:50%;display:inlin-block;border:3px
> solid black;]] +[join[]] }}}>
> ] }}}>
> 
> 
>
> \end
>
>
> <>
>
>
> On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 3:11:04 PM UTC-4 taale...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> If I'm understanding you right, I think currentTiddler is the right
>> thing. As an example:
>>
>> {{!!colorway}}
>>
>> ! The Title of the Thing and the Stuff
>>
>>
>> where colorway is the field with the long PITA spans.
>>
>> Using your macro, it would just be
>>
>> <>
>>>
>> ! The Title of the Thing and the Stuff
>>
>>
>> and I could get rid of the colorway field altogether
>>
>> or maybe do something like this?
>>
>> <>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 11:50 AM Charlie Veniot 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Okay.  Just need to know what the meaty part should be.  (i.e., what
>>> should be where the "<>" is?)
>>>
>>> \define beDotted( likeThis )
>>> <$list filter="[[$likeThis$]split[]]">
>>> <>
>>> 
>>> \end
>>>
>>> <>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 2:42:30 PM UTC-4 Charlie Veniot wrote:
>>>
 For sure a macro could do that.  Give me a few minutes.

 On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 2:33:00 PM UTC-4 taale...@gmail.com
 wrote:

> Oh, sorry - I forgot some details:
>
> I just want to be able to ID colors as a visual example easily - they
> don't have to be dots.
> If I had my druthers, I'd love to have some sort of macro where I pass
> in something like "YRWG" and get the above or similar. Could a macro 
> do
> that?
>
> On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 11:29:48 AM UTC-7 taale...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> I created some classes to created colored dots, so that I can list
>> specific colors for a project. I call them colorways. An example :
>>
>> [image: Annotation 2021-11-30 112413.png]
>>
>> The issue is that coding them is a pita. For example, the code for
>> the above is:
>>
>> > class= "cwd ylw">
>>
>> where
>>
>>- cwd is a class that creates colorway dots
>>- ylw (and red, wht, grn) is a class that makes the dot yellow
>>
>> Can anyone think of an easier way to do this?
>>
>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: An easier way to create a band of specific colors

[Aidan Grey]

If I'm understanding you right, I think currentTiddler is the right thing.
As an example:

{{!!colorway}}

! The Title of the Thing and the Stuff


where colorway is the field with the long PITA spans.

Using your macro, it would just be

<>
>
! The Title of the Thing and the Stuff


and I could get rid of the colorway field altogether

or maybe do something like this?

<>

On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 11:50 AM Charlie Veniot  wrote:

> Okay.  Just need to know what the meaty part should be.  (i.e., what
> should be where the "<>" is?)
>
> \define beDotted( likeThis )
> <$list filter="[[$likeThis$]split[]]">
> <>
> 
> \end
>
> <>
>
> On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 2:42:30 PM UTC-4 Charlie Veniot wrote:
>
>> For sure a macro could do that.  Give me a few minutes.
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 2:33:00 PM UTC-4 taale...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Oh, sorry - I forgot some details:
>>>
>>> I just want to be able to ID colors as a visual example easily - they
>>> don't have to be dots.
>>> If I had my druthers, I'd love to have some sort of macro where I pass
>>> in something like "YRWG" and get the above or similar. Could a macro do
>>> that?
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 11:29:48 AM UTC-7 taale...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I created some classes to created colored dots, so that I can list
 specific colors for a project. I call them colorways. An example :

 [image: Annotation 2021-11-30 112413.png]

 The issue is that coding them is a pita. For example, the code for the
 above is:

 >>> class= "cwd ylw">

 where

- cwd is a class that creates colorway dots
- ylw (and red, wht, grn) is a class that makes the dot yellow

 Can anyone think of an easier way to do this?


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Re: [tw5] Re: Class to use an image with background-clip

[Aidan Grey]

Oh, durr.  I did see that.  Sorry.

On Mon, Nov 8, 2021, 8:24 PM Charlie Veniot  wrote:

> Yeah, sneak a peek at the CSS file included in the attached.
>
> You'll see that I added a little something there to make H2 adopt the CSS
> style, just to show folk the ability to set all instances of a particular
> element with a custom style.
>
> On Monday, November 8, 2021 at 11:20:07 PM UTC-4 taale...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Thanks! I don't think the transclusion is gonna work, given what I wanna
>> do, but it's a possibility.
>>
>> By the way
>>
>> JACK
>> !! This Heading
>>
>> EVERYTHING is gilded, including the "This Heading" - any thoughts on why?
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 7:33 PM Charlie Veniot  wrote:
>>
>>> Good stuff !
>>>
>>> There are so many ways of applying a particular style to a specific bit
>>> of text.
>>>
>>> Myself, considering the example I gave in the attachment ...
>>>
>>> I'd probably prefer do this:  {{ Whatever Text || tGoldLeaf }}, or the
>>> shorter version {{ Whatever Text || tGL }}.
>>>
>>> Try the attached.
>>>
>>> On Monday, November 8, 2021 at 10:13:49 PM UTC-4 taale...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Thanks Mat and Charlie!

 So, it looks like I CAN create the class, but have to call it in a
 span/div to apply it.

 Which is better than I was expecting, because It was looking like I'd
 have to copy/paste the css into every relevant bit.

 Thanks a ton!!





 On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 7:01 PM Charlie Veniot 
 wrote:

> Is this what you are looking for?
>
> Download attached json and drag it into tiddlywiki.com to try/analyze.
>
>
>
> On Monday, November 8, 2021 at 9:34:47 PM UTC-4 taale...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Well, that works for me too Mat - as long as I use inline HTML/CSS
>> like you did above.
>>
>> But if I use the TW class caller (I can't think of the word) like
>> this, no bueno, empty tiddler:
>>
>> @@.jack
>> !!JACK
>> @@
>>
>> Which I suppose answers my question. Everything has to be styled in
>> line, classes won't work here.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 6:09 PM Mat  wrote:
>>
>>> This works on tiddlywiki.com
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> .jack {
>>>   font-size: 72px;
>>>   background: url(<$macrocall $name="datauri" title="Motovun
>>> Jack.jpg" $output="text/plain"/>);
>>>   -webkit-background-clip: text;
>>>   -webkit-text-fill-color: transparent;
>>> }
>>> 
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> !GOLD
>>> 
>>>
>>> <:-)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, November 8, 2021 at 8:52:06 PM UTC+1 taale...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I'm trying to make a class that will allow me to fill text with an
 image. For example, making a drop cap for a manuscript-inspired theme 
 that
 looks like it's been gilded, by using an image of gold leaf.

 The interwebz tell me that I want to use background-clip, but I'm
 not sure how to set that up in a CSS class. Does anyone have any 
 pointers?

 All I have so far, which doesn't work (and I didn't think it would):

 .dropcap { font-size: 40px;
 margin: 10pc;
 border: 5px double black;
 float: left; background-image: url(<$macrocall $name="datauri"
 title="paua.jpg" $output="text/plain"/>) background-clip: text; }

 Thanks,
 Aidan

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Re: [tw5] Re: Class to use an image with background-clip

[Aidan Grey]

Thanks! I don't think the transclusion is gonna work, given what I wanna
do, but it's a possibility.

By the way

JACK
!! This Heading

EVERYTHING is gilded, including the "This Heading" - any thoughts on why?


On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 7:33 PM Charlie Veniot  wrote:

> Good stuff !
>
> There are so many ways of applying a particular style to a specific bit of
> text.
>
> Myself, considering the example I gave in the attachment ...
>
> I'd probably prefer do this:  {{ Whatever Text || tGoldLeaf }}, or the
> shorter version {{ Whatever Text || tGL }}.
>
> Try the attached.
>
> On Monday, November 8, 2021 at 10:13:49 PM UTC-4 taale...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Thanks Mat and Charlie!
>>
>> So, it looks like I CAN create the class, but have to call it in a
>> span/div to apply it.
>>
>> Which is better than I was expecting, because It was looking like I'd
>> have to copy/paste the css into every relevant bit.
>>
>> Thanks a ton!!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 7:01 PM Charlie Veniot  wrote:
>>
>>> Is this what you are looking for?
>>>
>>> Download attached json and drag it into tiddlywiki.com to try/analyze.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, November 8, 2021 at 9:34:47 PM UTC-4 taale...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Well, that works for me too Mat - as long as I use inline HTML/CSS like
 you did above.

 But if I use the TW class caller (I can't think of the word) like this,
 no bueno, empty tiddler:

 @@.jack
 !!JACK
 @@

 Which I suppose answers my question. Everything has to be styled in
 line, classes won't work here.


 On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 6:09 PM Mat  wrote:

> This works on tiddlywiki.com
>
>
> 
> .jack {
>   font-size: 72px;
>   background: url(<$macrocall $name="datauri" title="Motovun Jack.jpg"
> $output="text/plain"/>);
>   -webkit-background-clip: text;
>   -webkit-text-fill-color: transparent;
> }
> 
>
> 
>
> !GOLD
> 
>
> <:-)
>
>
> On Monday, November 8, 2021 at 8:52:06 PM UTC+1 taale...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> I'm trying to make a class that will allow me to fill text with an
>> image. For example, making a drop cap for a manuscript-inspired theme 
>> that
>> looks like it's been gilded, by using an image of gold leaf.
>>
>> The interwebz tell me that I want to use background-clip, but I'm not
>> sure how to set that up in a CSS class. Does anyone have any pointers?
>>
>> All I have so far, which doesn't work (and I didn't think it would):
>>
>> .dropcap { font-size: 40px;
>> margin: 10pc;
>> border: 5px double black;
>> float: left; background-image: url(<$macrocall $name="datauri"
>> title="paua.jpg" $output="text/plain"/>) background-clip: text; }
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Aidan
>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Class to use an image with background-clip

[Aidan Grey]

Thanks Mat and Charlie!

So, it looks like I CAN create the class, but have to call it in a span/div
to apply it.

Which is better than I was expecting, because It was looking like I'd have
to copy/paste the css into every relevant bit.

Thanks a ton!!





On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 7:01 PM Charlie Veniot  wrote:

> Is this what you are looking for?
>
> Download attached json and drag it into tiddlywiki.com to try/analyze.
>
>
>
> On Monday, November 8, 2021 at 9:34:47 PM UTC-4 taale...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Well, that works for me too Mat - as long as I use inline HTML/CSS like
>> you did above.
>>
>> But if I use the TW class caller (I can't think of the word) like this,
>> no bueno, empty tiddler:
>>
>> @@.jack
>> !!JACK
>> @@
>>
>> Which I suppose answers my question. Everything has to be styled in line,
>> classes won't work here.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 6:09 PM Mat  wrote:
>>
>>> This works on tiddlywiki.com
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> .jack {
>>>   font-size: 72px;
>>>   background: url(<$macrocall $name="datauri" title="Motovun Jack.jpg"
>>> $output="text/plain"/>);
>>>   -webkit-background-clip: text;
>>>   -webkit-text-fill-color: transparent;
>>> }
>>> 
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> !GOLD
>>> 
>>>
>>> <:-)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, November 8, 2021 at 8:52:06 PM UTC+1 taale...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I'm trying to make a class that will allow me to fill text with an
 image. For example, making a drop cap for a manuscript-inspired theme that
 looks like it's been gilded, by using an image of gold leaf.

 The interwebz tell me that I want to use background-clip, but I'm not
 sure how to set that up in a CSS class. Does anyone have any pointers?

 All I have so far, which doesn't work (and I didn't think it would):

 .dropcap { font-size: 40px;
 margin: 10pc;
 border: 5px double black;
 float: left; background-image: url(<$macrocall $name="datauri"
 title="paua.jpg" $output="text/plain"/>) background-clip: text; }

 Thanks,
 Aidan

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Re: [tw5] Re: Class to use an image with background-clip

[Aidan Grey]

Well, that works for me too Mat - as long as I use inline HTML/CSS like you
did above.

But if I use the TW class caller (I can't think of the word) like this, no
bueno, empty tiddler:

@@.jack
!!JACK
@@

Which I suppose answers my question. Everything has to be styled in line,
classes won't work here.


On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 6:09 PM Mat  wrote:

> This works on tiddlywiki.com
>
>
> 
> .jack {
>   font-size: 72px;
>   background: url(<$macrocall $name="datauri" title="Motovun Jack.jpg"
> $output="text/plain"/>);
>   -webkit-background-clip: text;
>   -webkit-text-fill-color: transparent;
> }
> 
>
> 
>
> !GOLD
> 
>
> <:-)
>
>
> On Monday, November 8, 2021 at 8:52:06 PM UTC+1 taale...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I'm trying to make a class that will allow me to fill text with an image.
>> For example, making a drop cap for a manuscript-inspired theme that looks
>> like it's been gilded, by using an image of gold leaf.
>>
>> The interwebz tell me that I want to use background-clip, but I'm not
>> sure how to set that up in a CSS class. Does anyone have any pointers?
>>
>> All I have so far, which doesn't work (and I didn't think it would):
>>
>> .dropcap { font-size: 40px;
>> margin: 10pc;
>> border: 5px double black;
>> float: left; background-image: url(<$macrocall $name="datauri"
>> title="paua.jpg" $output="text/plain"/>) background-clip: text; }
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Aidan
>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Class to use an image with background-clip

[Aidan Grey]

Yeah, it was text that I would apply the class to. I've since realized that
there will at least have to be several different classes depending on where
it is i.e. styling the titles will be different than styling buttons or in
a tiddler, etc. since the backgrounds and such will need to be in different
dom locations.

I want to gild titles, the editor buttons (of all the varieties), drop
caps, bits and bobs on sidebars, and on demand for specific words or icons
in the tiddler on demand, so to speak.

I'm also planning to use the same technique for a different theme, based on
a Tlingit soulcatcher, which is usually a carved and styled bone with
inlays of mother of pearl (hence the paua.jpg).

On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 5:08 PM Charlie Veniot  wrote:

> G'day Aidan,
>
> What text?  Where is the text?  Do you mean all of the content showing in
> a tiddler?
>
> Or just the text in a specific area in a tiddler?
>
> On Monday, November 8, 2021 at 3:52:06 PM UTC-4 taale...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I'm trying to make a class that will allow me to fill text with an image.
>> For example, making a drop cap for a manuscript-inspired theme that looks
>> like it's been gilded, by using an image of gold leaf.
>>
>> The interwebz tell me that I want to use background-clip, but I'm not
>> sure how to set that up in a CSS class. Does anyone have any pointers?
>>
>> All I have so far, which doesn't work (and I didn't think it would):
>>
>> .dropcap { font-size: 40px;
>> margin: 10pc;
>> border: 5px double black;
>> float: left; background-image: url(<$macrocall $name="datauri"
>> title="paua.jpg" $output="text/plain"/>) background-clip: text; }
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Aidan
>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: alphanumerical sort for sortsub

[Aidan Grey]

Ack!!

nsort, not north

On Wed., Apr. 28, 2021, 9:05 a.m. Jean-Pierre Rivière, <
jn.pierre.rivi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> very fine!!! eager to see what other functionality will be given too.
>
> Le mercredi 28 avril 2021 à 17:02:12 UTC+2, saq.i...@gmail.com a écrit :
>
>> I have a PR almost ready that includes this as well as other sorting
>> functionality.
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, April 28, 2021 at 4:54:02 PM UTC+2 jn.pierr...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I've just taken the time to understand how to use sortsub. I should have
>>> done it before, et really does what I was trying to get with a lot of
>>> efforts and far too much code!
>>>
>>> But there's a kind of  sort that sortsub lack, which is alphanumeric.
>>> Just like there is sortan and sort filter.
>>>
>>> If my sortsub subfilter reference technical names like foo123, bar32 and
>>> foo34, I'd like that foo34 be before foo123 and only alphanumerical sorting
>>> can do that.
>>>
>>> regards.
>>>
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>>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: alphanumerical sort for sortsub

[Aidan Grey]

Look up north... That may be what you want

On Wed., Apr. 28, 2021, 9:05 a.m. Jean-Pierre Rivière, <
jn.pierre.rivi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> very fine!!! eager to see what other functionality will be given too.
>
> Le mercredi 28 avril 2021 à 17:02:12 UTC+2, saq.i...@gmail.com a écrit :
>
>> I have a PR almost ready that includes this as well as other sorting
>> functionality.
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, April 28, 2021 at 4:54:02 PM UTC+2 jn.pierr...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I've just taken the time to understand how to use sortsub. I should have
>>> done it before, et really does what I was trying to get with a lot of
>>> efforts and far too much code!
>>>
>>> But there's a kind of  sort that sortsub lack, which is alphanumeric.
>>> Just like there is sortan and sort filter.
>>>
>>> If my sortsub subfilter reference technical names like foo123, bar32 and
>>> foo34, I'd like that foo34 be before foo123 and only alphanumerical sorting
>>> can do that.
>>>
>>> regards.
>>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki Project Name

[Aidan Grey]

So, what if we create a place other than here (n Tiddlywiki.com?) for
possible names, so we have somewhere to brainstorm without bogging down the
list?



On Thu, Dec 31, 2020 at 10:02 AM PMario  wrote:

> Hi,
> At first I thought xememex is complicated, but then I thought about it. I
> did play a little bit with it.
>
> As wikipedia tells us: memex is a hypthetical thing
> , It may come from "memory ex
> tension",
> Quote: "The memex would provide an "enlarged intimate supplement to one's
> memory"." ... I think that's just a different description for TW.
>
> xememex could be the "Next electronical memory extension". As Jeremy told
> us, this name has an interesting "feature". We can read it forward and
> backward.
>
> xememex .. or ..  xememexnice! right?
>
> We nickname TiddlyWiki with TW or TW5 
>
> We can nickname xememex as meX ... Which for me would be: me eXtended .(I
> do like this one ;)
>
> *Conclusion for me:*
>
> Tiddlers can be renamed to: Cards
>
> xememex.com can be the organisation
>
> "xememex ToolBox" can be the product. ... Short: meX
>
> and xememex can be a "word mark" / logo ... IMO if the first 2 letters
> are greyed out a little bit, it's much easier to read.
>
> Just my 2 cents about the name.
>
> -mario
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Re: [tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki Project Name

[Aidan Grey]

reading and mostly staying quiet, but...

Hate Xememex (is that the right number of ms and xes). How do I pronounce
it? Not terribly concerned with the architectural provenance and meaning,
and I think the nitpicking here is less helpful. Rebrand, for
aforementioned reasons, is reasonable, but there's overthinking.

I also think that folding all that thought into an acronym that does double
duty would be better. Honor the thinkers, but do it in a way that is
transparent and irrelevant unless someone wants to look there, because day
to day, practically, the high theory isn't why people use TW.

PicoWiki. PicoCard. Picard! That's what I came to say :)



On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 8:21 AM David Gifford  wrote:

> wow
>
> the things i miss when i go on a short trip. my input, which everyone will
> just proceed to ignore:
>
> 1. I think forking is a good idea if there is going to be a big overhaul.
> I am in favor of making things easier for those who design and develop this
> wonder of technology, even though it means fatigue for me: more moving
> stuff to a new system, more learning curve, more waiting for the new system
> to get all or most of the goodies from the previous system.
>
> 2. I support 'card' or 'notecard' as a  replacement for 'tiddler'.
> Notecardnet.com, Notecardgen.com, Notecardsystem.com and Notecardweb.com
> look like they might be available. Which I find utterly amazing.
>
> 3. If the goal is to do all the work of overhauling TW for nothing and
> continue to limit TW to the same small group of programming aficionados and
> a few odd stragglers like myself, then by all means, use xememex, but if
> your goal is to try to open TW to a wider market, reconsidering the name is
> important.
>
> a) I had the same thought as others, that xememex it sounds like Zantac or
> some similar drug. If you have side effects after using Xememex, please
> consult with your doctor.
> b) Some of you may get all feely thinking about Memex and Vannevar Bush. I
> think most people will just assume the word Memex has to do with some old
> outdated technology like mimeographs or something you use with those old
> punch cards that my Aunt Linda used to bring home from her computing job in
> the early 70s. That will be offputting just as TiddlyWiki is.
> c) I am not trying to rain on anyone's parade or be negative or resistant
> to change. I am just trying to offer a perspective others might not have
> thought of. Avoid anything that doesn't roll off the tongue or that has
> negative associations (outdated is not something you want people to think
> of when they hear the name of your product).
>
> FWIW. Blessings.
>
>
>
> On Monday, December 28, 2020 at 12:14:43 AM UTC-6 positiv...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> I couldn't find if this topic has already been re-hashed this decade. But
>> I was wondering if there is any value in discussing alternative names to
>> the "Tiddly" part of the TiddlyWIki project. This project has been around
>> for so long that renaming / rebranding would be quite an effort. And the
>> Tiddly part is unique within programming projects, which helps to eliminate
>> false positives when searching for sample code.
>>
>> I am an American living on the Pacific Coast, so my linguistic
>> preferences are definitely different from Jeremy's. But just saying the
>> word 'Tiddly' out loud feels like trying to get people from certain Germany
>> dialects to say the word "Squirrel." It always feels forced to me.
>>
>> A joke by Lt. Commander Data on Star Trek the Next Generation was about
>> someone mispronouncing 'kidneys' as 'kiddleys.' We the store keeper
>> corrected him, the customer contested, "No, I said 'kiddleys.' Diddle I?"
>>
>> From just a project standpoint, the word 'Tiddly' is trying to focus on
>> the "small amount" of data or code that should be in any one unit. This way
>> many units can be combined in various ways to satisfy different needs.
>> Although it is intended to produce a Wiki-like user interface with deep
>> linking and back references, the way you go about it is by breaking up
>> large pieces of information into re-usable components.
>>
>> If your goal is to create "tiddlers," then using a TiddlyWiki application
>> would be a natural fit. If the goal of most people is to make small units
>> of re-usable components, then perhaps a different prefix would make it more
>> appealing. Again, this is just a personal opinion and not a slight on the
>> TiddlyWiki project as a whole, which I have been using frequently everyday.
>>
>> There have been two alternate words kicking around in my head lately.
>> TipWiki or DotWiki.
>>
>> 'Tip' has a very similar double meaning to Tiddly - drunk people can be
>> 'tiddly' or 'tipsy', and just the 'tip' of something or a 'tiddly' amount
>> of something is quite small. There is an additional English meaning of
>> 'tip' to mean 'a small note or suggestion.' That seems to be actually the
>> point of TiddlyWiki: Make lots of small notes that can be 

Re: [tw5] Re: Announcing the release of TiddlyWiki v5.1.23

[Aidan Grey]

Will there be one of those existingTW updaters for this release, or is it
just too complicated?

On Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 8:47 AM Saq Imtiaz  wrote:

> This feels like a personal gift, on my last day of volunteering for the
> calendar year no less!
>
> What I am happiest about is the excellent and very productive
> collaboration that went into this release. When I actively re-joined the
> community earlier this year, I was somewhat concerned at the apparent lack
> of  developers contributing to the core. Fast forward to the end of the
> year and I think we are in a much healthier place, in no small part due to
> Jeremy making the time to facilitate the collaboration and contributions to
> the core.
>
> Other than that the features I am most excited about are the
> <$eventcatcher> and the improved keyboard handling.
> A big thank you for all the effort that went into this release and
> everyone that contributed.
>
> Cheers,
> Saq
>
> PS: Streams users, upgrade Streams *BEFORE* upgrading to TW 5.1.23:
> https://saqimtiaz.github.io/streams/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Fsq%2Fstreams
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Re: [tw5] Re: Paid Theme Design?

[Aidan Grey]

>
> Rather than start altering the layout perhaps you can create a tiddler for
> viewing other tiddlers that contain the text. You can then use fluid story
> fixed sidebar, with the sidebar closed to see a wide tiddler that contains
> your two page layout, you custom background and various icons. Once
> complete it could be redesigned as a new layout if necessary but to me a
> view tiddler is better because then your "reader" could be used in any
> tiddler and wiki.


A mockup is a great idea! I'll get drawing or something...

And a "view tiddler": if it provides me with the  view I am asking for,
then I'd be happy as a clam. Can you edit a tiddler directly though the
view tiddler, or is it just a transclusion?

On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 8:40 PM TW Tones  wrote:

> On reviewing your requirements, a little more clarity and perhaps a mock
> up would help.
>
> Rather than start altering the layout perhaps you can create a tiddler for
> viewing other tiddlers that contain the text. You can then use fluid story
> fixed sidebar, with the sidebar closed to see a wide tiddler that contains
> your two page layout, you custom background and various icons. Once
> complete it could be redesigned as a new layout if necessary but to me a
> view tiddler is better because then your "reader" could be used in any
> tiddler and wiki.
>
> Tones
>
> On Sunday, 20 December 2020 at 03:06:00 UTC+11 taale...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> >> There are theme designers that may take up this. But first what are
>> you requiring from this new theme?
>>
>> My  experience historically has been not so great - I think this is the
>> third time? I've done what I can on my own, but I also  gave up on a lot of
>> ideas, as just way outside my expertise.
>>
>> I guess I have two main ideas, both build off of / reflect things that
>> others have asked for or suggested. I thought that maybe supporting
>> someone's time money wise might be appreciated. At any rate, here's what
>> I'm looking for:
>>
>> 1) A new plugin for color tweaking: something where we could pick our
>> colors in TW, and see changes immediately. Would obviously need to include
>> some work to make all the uncommon bits visible (alerts, for example).
>>
>> 2) The new Notebook theme is awesome, but made me pine for one of my
>> original thoughts again - the manuscript!
>> * a two-panel layout (like an open book) that can become "single page" as
>> needed depending on browser width
>> * the "book" sits on a table/like background, of course, possibly with
>> some other items visible for aesthetic purposes (inkwell and quill!)
>> * "turny corners" to move to next page / prev page of a tiddler "page"
>> * editing would be a single panel on the page, like normal
>> * There's a bookmark, and I have two ideas here:
>> IDEA 1:  the part of the bookmark showing has the main tool buttons
>> (New/Home/Save, etc.) as well as navigation buttons - previous tiddler aka
>> chapter, maybe last 5 tiddlers. Idea is basically to allow for tiddlers as
>> static "pages" but still have fairly easy navigation (an idea would be to
>> have temporary additional "bookmarks/tags" on the sides of the "book" for
>> quick navigation to other "open"  tiddlers)
>> IDEA 2: put new/save/home buttons on the object on the table (click on
>> the inkwell to create a new page/tiddler, quill to save, etc) and keep the
>> bookmark super simple, possibly with links to "home" pages or fave tiddlers
>> * Clicking on bookmark takes you to "front page" - that has the main tool
>> tabs (Search / Open / Recent / Tools / etc.) and the TOC
>> * Layout on front page with bookmark would be, from right to left (or
>> left to right?),  with TOC,  on top layer of right
>> page with buttons as normal at top, and buttons for the various "tabs" in
>> normal layouts, and then the rest of the right page   "behind" the
>> bookmark, which would show all the other details - the tools list and
>> buttons, the open tiddlers, and so on.
>>
>> I know I'm going overboard with the aesthetic functionality here, but...
>> I do have reasons, it doesn't hurt to list off all the hopes, no matter
>> what, and I think it would make for an awesome website
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 9:33 PM TW Tones  wrote:
>>
>>> There are theme designers that may take up this. But first what are you
>>> requiring from this new theme?
>>>
>>> In the pre-release there is a way to change layouts if you have more
>>> than one, ie the structure, but otherwise themes usually consist of colour
>>> pallets and css tweaking of existing elements.
>>>
>>> There is a reasonable chance this can be accomplished by the community
>>> helping you.
>>>
>>> Tones
>>> On Saturday, 19 December 2020 at 08:54:20 UTC+11 taale...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Would anyone be up for designing a TiddlyWiki theme, that:
 1) I would pay for your time
 2) Would be free to the community once done

 If _anyone_ is interested, I will share my needs. But historically,
 it's been a big 

Re: [tw5] Re: Paid Theme Design?

[Aidan Grey]

Hello again!

Well, to be fair, you only posted details 4 days ago, and in the West, it's
> only 2 days from Christmas. People not locked down by Covid may be
> travelling, and people that are locked down are probably dealing with a lot
> of disruption.


True that - I had forgotten about the potential impact of the holidays.
That said, it's not been all that different from past experience, with the
exception of MORE engagement! So, thanks to you for the comments and
getting more involvement :)


>
>> 1) A new plugin for color tweaking: something where we could pick our
>>> colors in TW, and see changes immediately. Would obviously need to include
>>> some work to make all the uncommon bits visible (alerts, for example).
>>> That sounds doable. I'm surprised someone hasn't already done it. I
>>> think only a human will be able to see whether the uncommon bits are
>>> visible. I guess the display could show examples of most of the usages, so
>>> they could be tweaked on the spot before applying. Maybe someone will pop
>>> up with "that's already been done!"
>>
>>
Not done, that I know of, but it has been requested by others. I think it
would make a huge difference in terms of theme development, at least from
the color side.

2) The new Notebook theme is awesome, but made me pine for one of my
>> original thoughts again - the manuscript!
>> * a two-panel layout (like an open book) that can become "single page" as
>> needed depending on browser width
>>
> * the "book" sits on a table/like background, of course, possibly with
>> some other items visible for aesthetic purposes (inkwell and quill!)
>>
> * "turny corners" to move to next page / prev page of a tiddler "page"
>> * editing would be a single panel on the page, like normal
>> * There's a bookmark, and I have two ideas here:
>> IDEA 1:  the part of the bookmark showing has the main tool buttons
>> (New/Home/Save, etc.) as well as navigation buttons - previous tiddler aka
>> chapter, maybe last 5 tiddlers. Idea is basically to allow for tiddlers as
>> static "pages" but still have fairly easy navigation (an idea would be to
>> have temporary additional "bookmarks/tags" on the sides of the "book" for
>> quick navigation to other "open"  tiddlers)
>> IDEA 2: put new/save/home buttons on the object on the table (click on
>> the inkwell to create a new page/tiddler, quill to save, etc) and keep the
>> bookmark super simple, possibly with links to "home" pages or fave tiddlers
>>
>
Putting a bookmark in the *sidebar* for idea #2 sounds doable. Or were you
> thinking of getting rid of the sidebar? Like a complete re-arrangement of
> elements?


The latter - rearrange the elements altogether. Sidebar components would be
moved to the right page of the book, to the bookmark, or to the "tabs"...

Tones has requested a mock up, and I think that's a great idea working
on it



On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 12:51 PM 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 10:25:56 AM UTC-8 wrote:
>
>> See? Crickets :)
>>
>>
> Well, to be fair, you only posted details 4 days ago, and in the West,
> it's only 2 days from Christmas. People not locked down by Covid may be
> travelling, and people that are locked down are probably dealing with a lot
> of disruption.
>
>
>>
>>> 1) A new plugin for color tweaking: something where we could pick our
>>> colors in TW, and see changes immediately. Would obviously need to include
>>> some work to make all the uncommon bits visible (alerts, for example).
>>>
>>>
> That sounds doable. I'm surprised someone hasn't already done it. I think
> only a human will be able to see whether the uncommon bits are visible. I
> guess the display could show examples of most of the usages, so they could
> be tweaked on the spot before applying. Maybe someone will pop up with
> "that's already been done!"
>
> 2) The new Notebook theme is awesome, but made me pine for one of my
>>> original thoughts again - the manuscript!
>>> * a two-panel layout (like an open book) that can become "single page"
>>> as needed depending on browser width
>>>
>>
> If it was me, I'd be tempted to lift Saq/Gifford's code from Stroll, since
> that's the main place I've seen double panels before.
>
>
>> * the "book" sits on a table/like background, of course, possibly with
>>> some other items visible for aesthetic purposes (inkwell and quill!)
>>>
>>
> BTW, there was a project to make a complete book out of TW. I don't think
> it had two pages, and I don't think the code was released.
>
>
>> * "turny corners" to move to next page / prev page of a tiddler "page"
>>> * editing would be a single panel on the page, like normal
>>> * There's a bookmark, and I have two ideas here:
>>> IDEA 1:  the part of the bookmark showing has the main tool buttons
>>> (New/Home/Save, etc.) as well as navigation buttons - previous tiddler aka
>>> chapter, maybe last 5 tiddlers. Idea is basically to allow for tiddlers as
>>> static 

Re: [tw5] Re: Paid Theme Design?

[Aidan Grey]

See? Crickets :)

I know it sounds like a lot, which is why I am willing to pay for someone's
help

On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 9:05 AM Aidan Grey  wrote:

> >> There are theme designers that may take up this. But first what are you
> requiring from this new theme?
>
> My  experience historically has been not so great - I think this is the
> third time? I've done what I can on my own, but I also  gave up on a lot of
> ideas, as just way outside my expertise.
>
> I guess I have two main ideas, both build off of / reflect things that
> others have asked for or suggested. I thought that maybe supporting
> someone's time money wise might be appreciated. At any rate, here's what
> I'm looking for:
>
> 1) A new plugin for color tweaking: something where we could pick our
> colors in TW, and see changes immediately. Would obviously need to include
> some work to make all the uncommon bits visible (alerts, for example).
>
> 2) The new Notebook theme is awesome, but made me pine for one of my
> original thoughts again - the manuscript!
> * a two-panel layout (like an open book) that can become "single page" as
> needed depending on browser width
> * the "book" sits on a table/like background, of course, possibly with
> some other items visible for aesthetic purposes (inkwell and quill!)
> * "turny corners" to move to next page / prev page of a tiddler "page"
> * editing would be a single panel on the page, like normal
> * There's a bookmark, and I have two ideas here:
> IDEA 1:  the part of the bookmark showing has the main tool buttons
> (New/Home/Save, etc.) as well as navigation buttons - previous tiddler aka
> chapter, maybe last 5 tiddlers. Idea is basically to allow for tiddlers as
> static "pages" but still have fairly easy navigation (an idea would be to
> have temporary additional "bookmarks/tags" on the sides of the "book" for
> quick navigation to other "open"  tiddlers)
> IDEA 2: put new/save/home buttons on the object on the table (click on the
> inkwell to create a new page/tiddler, quill to save, etc) and keep the
> bookmark super simple, possibly with links to "home" pages or fave tiddlers
> * Clicking on bookmark takes you to "front page" - that has the main tool
> tabs (Search / Open / Recent / Tools / etc.) and the TOC
> * Layout on front page with bookmark would be, from right to left (or left
> to right?),  with TOC,  on top layer of right page
> with buttons as normal at top, and buttons for the various "tabs" in normal
> layouts, and then the rest of the right page   "behind" the
> bookmark, which would show all the other details - the tools list and
> buttons, the open tiddlers, and so on.
>
> I know I'm going overboard with the aesthetic functionality here, but... I
> do have reasons, it doesn't hurt to list off all the hopes, no matter what,
> and I think it would make for an awesome website
>
> On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 9:33 PM TW Tones  wrote:
>
>> There are theme designers that may take up this. But first what are you
>> requiring from this new theme?
>>
>> In the pre-release there is a way to change layouts if you have more than
>> one, ie the structure, but otherwise themes usually consist of colour
>> pallets and css tweaking of existing elements.
>>
>> There is a reasonable chance this can be accomplished by the community
>> helping you.
>>
>> Tones
>> On Saturday, 19 December 2020 at 08:54:20 UTC+11 taale...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Would anyone be up for designing a TiddlyWiki theme, that:
>>> 1) I would pay for your time
>>> 2) Would be free to the community once done
>>>
>>> If _anyone_ is interested, I will share my needs. But historically, it's
>>> been a big no-go.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Aidan
>>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Paid Theme Design?

[Aidan Grey]

>> There are theme designers that may take up this. But first what are you
requiring from this new theme?

My  experience historically has been not so great - I think this is the
third time? I've done what I can on my own, but I also  gave up on a lot of
ideas, as just way outside my expertise.

I guess I have two main ideas, both build off of / reflect things that
others have asked for or suggested. I thought that maybe supporting
someone's time money wise might be appreciated. At any rate, here's what
I'm looking for:

1) A new plugin for color tweaking: something where we could pick our
colors in TW, and see changes immediately. Would obviously need to include
some work to make all the uncommon bits visible (alerts, for example).

2) The new Notebook theme is awesome, but made me pine for one of my
original thoughts again - the manuscript!
* a two-panel layout (like an open book) that can become "single page" as
needed depending on browser width
* the "book" sits on a table/like background, of course, possibly with some
other items visible for aesthetic purposes (inkwell and quill!)
* "turny corners" to move to next page / prev page of a tiddler "page"
* editing would be a single panel on the page, like normal
* There's a bookmark, and I have two ideas here:
IDEA 1:  the part of the bookmark showing has the main tool buttons
(New/Home/Save, etc.) as well as navigation buttons - previous tiddler aka
chapter, maybe last 5 tiddlers. Idea is basically to allow for tiddlers as
static "pages" but still have fairly easy navigation (an idea would be to
have temporary additional "bookmarks/tags" on the sides of the "book" for
quick navigation to other "open"  tiddlers)
IDEA 2: put new/save/home buttons on the object on the table (click on the
inkwell to create a new page/tiddler, quill to save, etc) and keep the
bookmark super simple, possibly with links to "home" pages or fave tiddlers
* Clicking on bookmark takes you to "front page" - that has the main tool
tabs (Search / Open / Recent / Tools / etc.) and the TOC
* Layout on front page with bookmark would be, from right to left (or left
to right?),  with TOC,  on top layer of right page
with buttons as normal at top, and buttons for the various "tabs" in normal
layouts, and then the rest of the right page   "behind" the
bookmark, which would show all the other details - the tools list and
buttons, the open tiddlers, and so on.

I know I'm going overboard with the aesthetic functionality here, but... I
do have reasons, it doesn't hurt to list off all the hopes, no matter what,
and I think it would make for an awesome website

On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 9:33 PM TW Tones  wrote:

> There are theme designers that may take up this. But first what are you
> requiring from this new theme?
>
> In the pre-release there is a way to change layouts if you have more than
> one, ie the structure, but otherwise themes usually consist of colour
> pallets and css tweaking of existing elements.
>
> There is a reasonable chance this can be accomplished by the community
> helping you.
>
> Tones
> On Saturday, 19 December 2020 at 08:54:20 UTC+11 taale...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Would anyone be up for designing a TiddlyWiki theme, that:
>> 1) I would pay for your time
>> 2) Would be free to the community once done
>>
>> If _anyone_ is interested, I will share my needs. But historically, it's
>> been a big no-go.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Aidan
>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Number formatting

[Aidan Grey]

Thanks Eric! That works - except not in the caption field. Still get the
recursion error. I think waiting until v23 is out will have to do.

Do we have an ETA yet?

On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 9:41 PM Eric Shulman  wrote:

> On Saturday, December 12, 2020 at 7:40:44 PM UTC-8 taale...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Uncaught RangeError: Maximum call stack size exceeded
>>
>
> This error is indicative of a run-away recursion.  Without digging into
> the code myself, I'm not sure why this is the case.  In any event, I
> suggest entirely avoiding the complexity (and processing overhead) of
> recursion by using the following alternative macro definition:
> \define padder(str,len) {{{
> [[$str$]addprefix[00]split[]last[$len$]join[]] }}}
>
> This will work to pad numbers up to 10 digits long (as determined by the
> number of zeros in the addprefix[...] operator) and you would use it in
> exactly the same way as the recursive macro:
> <$macrocall $name="padder" str={{!!cnum}} len="2" />
>
> Note that, starting with the soon to be released TW v5.1.23, there is a
> new filter operator, pad[...], which will accomplish the same result
> without needing any custom macro definition.
> To use this new filter, you would just write the following inline filter
> instead of using <$macrocall ...>
> {{{ [{!!cnum}pad[2]] }}}
>
> enjoy,
> -e
>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Total Word Count?

[Aidan Grey]

Aha!! I was trying to transpose the {{{s to [[s. Thank you!!

text={{{ [all[current]get[text]splitregexp[\s+]count[]divide[250]round[]]
}}}

On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 3:07 PM TW Tones  wrote:

> Aidan,
>
> That should be trivial in both the whole of wiki and tiddler focused
> counts.
>
> Here I have added it to my subtitle macros.
>
> <$list filter="[all[current]get[text]length[]compare:number:gt[0]]"
> variable=size>
> <$button tooltip="Size in characters of the current tiddler"
> class="tc-btn-invisible">
> {{$:/core/images/size}}<$text text=<>/><$text text={{{ 
> [compare:number:lteq[1300]then[
> in-post]] }}}/><$text text={{{ 
> [compare:number:gt[1300]compare:number:lteq[125000]then[
> in-article]] }}}/>
> <$text text={{{ [all[current]get[text]splitregexp[\s+]count[]] }}}/> Words
> <$text text={{{
> [all[current]get[text]splitregexp[\s+]count[]divide[250]round[]] }}}/> Pages
> 
> 
>
> This idea of obtaining details from the text field hints at a possibility
> I have raised a few times, that is of analytics in Tiddlywiki.
>
>- There are a lot of ways to measure, log and collate information in
>tiddlywiki.
>- While analytics is used by the big IT players it has also being
>recognised that providing rich analytics back to the user about their own
>data, is a great source of insight.
>- I have a thought experiment I am working on to build effective
>analytics based on data as it arrives rather than just a calculation at a
>particular time.
>- I also raised color intuitions
><https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/VBxJf0lF9o8/QFpXn2FlBwAJ> to
>bring forward such analytics to allow ones intuition to work with the info.
>
> Regards
> Tones
>
> On Tuesday, 13 October 2020 05:37:52 UTC+11, Aidan Grey wrote:
>>
>> Is there a way to shift that count into a variable, so that one could
>> calculate, say, how many pages that word count equates to?
>>
>> [[the word count]divide[250]round[]]
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 9:01 AM Amanda L. Goodman 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the clarification!
>>>
>>> It appears to be working well on my end.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 11, 2020 at 5:09 PM TW Tones  wrote:
>>>
>>>> LG,
>>>>
>>>> The first is a character count in the current tiddler, the second the
>>>> word count in the current tiddler.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry if I have confused you, I think I assumed too much.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Tones
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, 12 October 2020 04:29:58 UTC+11, LG wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello, Tony!
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, that's what I get for trying to read when I'm so tired. I tried
>>>>> that and this is what I'm seeing now:
>>>>>
>>>>> 11th October 2020 at 1:16pm 359 in-post 35 Words
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I checked it several times against other word counters to ensure that
>>>>> it is accurate. I'm guessing the "359 in-post" refers to all of the
>>>>> TiddlyWiki code?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Oct 10, 2020 at 2:13 AM TW Tones  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> LG,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Simply put this provides a way to place things into the subtitle of
>>>>>> all tiddlers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One of those things is a display of *characters and words found in
>>>>>> the text field of tiddlers* found defined in
>>>>>> $:/PSaT/subtitle-tags/text-size
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It has the added feature that it has two numbers which it uses to
>>>>>> indicate if the character counts exceed one of two values.
>>>>>> In this case the two thresholds relate to posts or articles in the
>>>>>> LinkedIn.com network. another example 10,000+ words I hear is what some
>>>>>> essays must be for universities etc...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your original enquiry for was the whole of the wiki? This is the same
>>>>>> but for each tiddler. Either remove the logic or add your own thresholds.
>>>>>> By the way it works in edit as well :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Going forward the subtitle-tags.json what else can you do with it?
>>>>>> Perhaps 

Re: [tw5] Re: Total Word Count?

[Aidan Grey]

Is there a way to shift that count into a variable, so that one could
calculate, say, how many pages that word count equates to?

[[the word count]divide[250]round[]]


On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 9:01 AM Amanda L. Goodman 
wrote:

> Thanks for the clarification!
>
> It appears to be working well on my end.
>
> On Sun, Oct 11, 2020 at 5:09 PM TW Tones  wrote:
>
>> LG,
>>
>> The first is a character count in the current tiddler, the second the
>> word count in the current tiddler.
>>
>> Sorry if I have confused you, I think I assumed too much.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tones
>>
>> On Monday, 12 October 2020 04:29:58 UTC+11, LG wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello, Tony!
>>>
>>> Well, that's what I get for trying to read when I'm so tired. I tried
>>> that and this is what I'm seeing now:
>>>
>>> 11th October 2020 at 1:16pm 359 in-post 35 Words
>>>
>>>
>>> I checked it several times against other word counters to ensure that it
>>> is accurate. I'm guessing the "359 in-post" refers to all of the TiddlyWiki
>>> code?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 10, 2020 at 2:13 AM TW Tones  wrote:
>>>
 LG,

 Simply put this provides a way to place things into the subtitle of all
 tiddlers.

 One of those things is a display of *characters and words found in the
 text field of tiddlers* found defined in
 $:/PSaT/subtitle-tags/text-size

 It has the added feature that it has two numbers which it uses to
 indicate if the character counts exceed one of two values.
 In this case the two thresholds relate to posts or articles in the
 LinkedIn.com network. another example 10,000+ words I hear is what some
 essays must be for universities etc...

 Your original enquiry for was the whole of the wiki? This is the same
 but for each tiddler. Either remove the logic or add your own thresholds.
 By the way it works in edit as well :)

 Going forward the subtitle-tags.json what else can you do with it?
 Perhaps it could be designed to count words after rendering, to count
 the works in the finished tiddler after transclusions etc..


 Has this answered your Questions?

 Tones

 On Saturday, 10 October 2020 13:31:16 UTC+11, LG wrote:
>
> Hey, Tony!
>
> I'm happy to help. I'll admit that I'm not sure what I'm looking for
> here, so I'd appreciate you spelling it out for me.
>
> I did the import and read the info off the usage tiddler. I then
> created a "Subtitle Test" tiddler and wrote: Hey. This resulted in it
> appearing right next to the date (under the title) with no space between
> the time and Hey. When I added " Hey" (with no quotation marks), the
> expected and hoped for space appeared between the date and Hey.
>
> 9th October 2020 at 10:21pm  Hey.
>
>
> I'm not sure what this part means in what I should be looking for:
>
>>
>>- Are the number of characters below 1300 they fit in a linked in
>>post
>>- Are the number of characters above 1300 and under 125,000 they
>>fit in a linked in Article.
>>
>> How I'm interpreting it is that if the subtitle text is below a
> certain amount, it'll fit in the subtitle area. So I adjusted and set the
> below level as 10. After I put in ~60 dummy text and checked again, all 
> ~60
> words still showed up in the subtitle field. I'm certain that I'm not
> understanding your intentions.
>
> Best,
>
> LG
>
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 12:42 AM TW Tones  wrote:
>
>> Lg,
>>
>> I was working on a small project to create subtitle tags, basically
>> using the tag $:/tags/subtitle you can place items in the tiddler
>> subtitle.
>>
>> This text size measure sounded like an ideal candidate.
>>
>>- Using the suggestions in this thread for words and characters
>>- I also added two value tests
>>   - Are the number of characters below 1300 they fit in a linked
>>   in post
>>   - Are the number of characters above 1300 and under 125,000
>>   they fit in a linked in Article.
>>
>> If you install this JSON then open $:/PSaT/subtitle-tags/text-size
>> and you can see how I did it and adjust to you needs.
>>
>> *Note It modified the core tiddler $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/subtitle*
>>
>> Any feedback will help me publish it.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>> On Monday, 5 October 2020 11:58:50 UTC+11, LG wrote:
>>>
>>> I copied all of my writing into one TW file. Is there a way to get a
>>> total word count? There are 823 tiddlers.
>>
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Re: [tw5] The-Book Chapter 10

[Aidan Grey]

As long as it's something editable, I'll be happy.

On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 9:49 AM Luis Gonzalez  wrote:

> The "building" of The-Book is becoming a wonderful challenge.
>
>
> Project completion is near and I will need readers to correct its content.
> If you want it, the next week I will release an .odt version of the book to
> share with all of you.
>
>
> I trust free software a lot and I think Libreoffice is a fantastic
> alternative to collaborate.
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Re: [tw5] The-Book Chapter 10

[Aidan Grey]

Heya Luis!

Can I get a doc version? I'd like to do some editing / layout to make this
a bit prettier, correct a few english bits (very weel written despite the
few errors! Kudos!).

And if it comes to that point, for those of us that are a bit old school, I
can help get it laid out for print publication too.

Aidan

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 1:37 AM Luis Gonzalez  wrote:

> After the Christmas stop I continue writing The-Book. I think is
> important to include a little chapter with some architectural aspects of
> Tiddlywiki.
> The attached pages contains the beginning.I saw the Tiddlywiki Hangout 10
> to fill the pages.
>
>
> * PLEASE:*
>
> * All experts in Tiddlywiki, check the table. If there is missing or bad
> information, please tell me.
> * What more information do you think should be included in this chapter?
>
>
>
>
> Thanks for your help.
> The-Book keep moving forward.
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Re: [tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki on HackADay.com

[Aidan Grey]

TT said:
> I think the main reason "wiki" is not ideal is that TW really is not like
most of the big wiki around. Its ability to shape-shift puts it in a quite
different category.

That's very true. Maybe it should be called something else altogether,
entirely unique.

The metaphors that pop into my mind are webs and trees. TechWeb? TreeWeb?

Or weaving - skeins instead of TWs, with threads or knots instead of
tiddlers?

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Re: [tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki on HackADay.com

[Aidan Grey]

* Is it worth the effort of changing the name?
Absolutely, yes. As long as foobarwiki stands for whatever better name is
decided. I like Card vs. Tiddler.

* What are the downsides of doing so?
There's effort involved, obviously, and possibly an ongoing need to keep
tiddlywiki.com and redirect to foorbarwiki. Historical / fan / dev sites
may not be maintained to redirect to new site.

* Coming up with suggestions for the new name is relatively easy, but what
are the criteria that we should use to test the new name? (We wouldn't want
to have to change it again)
It should be tech-savvy, reflect what it is (OnePageWiki?), and not have
any potential mutations. Like picking a name for a kid - you don't want to
give them bully-friendly names, right?

* Should we seek to keep things simple by choosing a name that retains the
TW initials?
If we can, but I wouldn't be wedded to it.


On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 9:12 AM Jeremy Ruston 
wrote:

> Just to add to Mark's comment: It has been clear for a few years that some
> users find the terms "TiddlyWiki" and "tiddler" to be a barrier to taking
> it seriously. In particular, while the word "tiddler" is common and
> innocent enough in Britain, it appears that for quite a few North American
> users it carries obscene connotations that they consider self-evident.
>
> There's an example in this recent tweet:
>
> > It's all fun and games until you pass away and your significant other
> has to log into something called TiddlyWiki and browse through Tiddlers to
> find your last will testament.
>
> (See https://twitter.com/remembersonly/status/1228729946656428032)
>
> I have recently been thinking through what would be involved in a name
> change, and am starting to think that it might not be a terrible idea.
>
> In order to understand some of the issues, I made a very simple experiment
> where I wrote a script that takes the prerelease index.html and applies the
> following four global search and replacements across the file:
>
> * TiddlyWiki --> FooBarWiki
> * tiddlywiki --> foobarwiki
> * Tiddler --> Card
> * tiddler --> card
>
> The result is a fully functional TiddlyWiki with no remaining references
> to the words "tiddlywiki" or "tiddler". Not only is the user interface text
> fixed, the `<$tiddler>` widget becomes the `<$card>` widget, and the
> `<$tranclude tiddler=foo/>` widget becomes `<$tranclude card=foo/>` etc.
>
> That simple approach is unlikely to be the way that we'd want to approach
> the name change, but it establishes the technical feasibility of changing
> the name.
>
> We'd need to provide an upgrade path for existing users. Perhaps we'd keep
> tiddlywiki.com running for 12 months with a build that uses the terms
> TiddlyWiki and tiddler, and a separate build at foobarwiki.com with the
> new terminology. We'd also need a conversion tool for updating individual
> wikis: we could offer an online tool and a command line option for Node.js.
>
> There's lots of interesting questions to consider before we even try to
> settle on the new name itself, and I'm interested to hear other views.
>
> * Is it worth the effort of changing the name?
> * What are the downsides of doing so?
> * Coming up with suggestions for the new name is relatively easy, but what
> are the criteria that we should use to test the new name? (We wouldn't want
> to have to change it again)
> * Should we seek to keep things simple by choosing a name that retains the
> TW initials?
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
> Best wishes
>
>
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>
> On 17 Feb 2020, at 15:53, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
> tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> 
> These discussions about extending the outreach of TW always center around
> some hypothetical
> newby who is turned away by the complexity of TW. The reality is, that the
> first time we
> learn of the existence of a new comer, they're asking for advice on some
> complicated,
> convoluted mechanism that they've already devised. The technological
> barrier doesn't seem
> to keep motivated people away.
>
> Listen to the Podcast. What's keeping people away is the *name*.
>
> I know it's irrational to chose an information management system based on
> a name, but
> we live in an age of hyper-marketing -- everything gets marketed, branded,
> recognized.
> So if something is under-branded it goes nowhere no matter how good it is
> because it's
> up against hundreds of products with serious, professional sounding names.
>
> The name TiddlyWiki suggests a kid's game or plaything. It suggests
> something that
> someone made for fun but won't be here tomorrow. It doesn't suggest
> something that
> you could do serious work with or store your vital information in. It
> doesn't suggest
> something that will be here in 25 years.
>
> OneNote, Evernote, Cintanotes, Google Keep ... all have names that you're
> not afraid
> to say in an IT staff meeting. Names you don't have to mumble under your
> breath
> when you 

Re: [tw5] Re: Best of 2019 and wish-list of 2020

[Aidan Grey]

2019 - I only really started using TW this year, so it's all the best.
Favorite thing of all though is Mohammed's Commander. Used it a LOT when
setting up / cleaning up notes.

2020 Wishlist:
- a comprehensive list / explanation of CSS selectors : what does XYZ
selector do? How do I effectively use tc-button_something?
- a simpler TW-native method for tiddler layout
- a better tool for palette creation

On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 8:38 AM 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> For 2020
>
> Either a WYSIWYG editor that writes to wikitext
>
> OR
>
> A markdown mode that understands wikitext widgets.
>
> And a puppy.
>
> On Thursday, December 12, 2019 at 1:43:25 AM UTC-8, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>>   The 2019 is gradually goes to end and a new year 2020 will start soon!
>>   I would like to ask you to share the best of 2019 and your wishlist of
>> 2020.
>>
>>   Tiddlywiki gets more powerful and resource rich and now we have many
>> tools
>>
>>
>> --Mohammad
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Re: [tw5] Re: Single line break query

[Aidan Grey]

I created a simple button for this myself. It's very simple.

Create a button.
For the action, use this:

<$action-sendmessage
$message="tm-edit-text-operation"
$param="suffix-lines"
character=""
count="1"
/>



On Sun, Nov 3, 2019, 4:27 PM Jon,  wrote:

> Hi Tony,
>
> Yes, a new tiddler button with associated css sounds good. I've seen
> references to this before so I'll investigate.
>
> Thanks
> Jon
>
> On Sunday, 3 November 2019 22:52:31 UTC, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Jon
>>
>> You are getting further from the initial issue but there is a class field
>> on tiddlers that can be used to apply css to this tiddler.
>>
>> Its quite easy to create own new tiddler button that creates custom
>> tiddlers with text, fields and tags to a desired standard.
>>
>> If you are familiar with wordprocessors you may realise there is a
>> difference between a line break and a paragraph. Initialy it seems annoying
>> that line breaks seem to collapse in wiki text but when you start writing
>> wiki text with widgets and macros you become greatful that you don't end up
>> with unwanted line breaks every where.
>>
>> I can share more methods soon.
>>
>> Tony
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Re: [tw5] Re: Celebrating Diversity

[Aidan Grey]

Ciao TT!

Ysgoliais yn brifysgol Harvard, a dyhaeddais fy ngradd athro (MA) in 
ieithoedd geltaidd. Dw i'n siarad Cymraeg, ond dim yn dda iawn...

On Wednesday, October 9, 2019 at 4:11:16 AM UTC-6, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Ciao Aiden
>
> Aidan Grey wrote ...
>>
>> * speak and or read many languages ... Welsh
>>
>
>  Waw! Sut daethoch chi i ddysgu Cymraeg?
>
> Mae'n iaith hardd.
>
> Best wishes
> TT
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Re: [tw5] Re: Celebrating Diversity

[Aidan Grey]

I'll bite. Some facts about me:
* American, born in California, grew up in Colorado
* gay and married (11 years this dec)
* Have Aspergers
* animist, sorcerer for hire
* speak and or read many languages, including Mandarin, French, Latin,
Irish, and Welsh
* i make languages for fun too
* born premature because a black widow but mother, who went into shock then
labor - alas, it wasn't radioactive. I still have a HUGE thing for spiders
though



On Tue, Oct 8, 2019, 7:39 PM A Gloom,  wrote:

> *Why should we Celebrating Diversity*
>
>
>- Because it makes common sense
>- Diversity is healthy because of less injuries from fighting those
>that are not like you-- you'll be fighting forevermore
>- Building tolerance is an antidote to conflict-- imagine what more
>could be accomplished if everyone worked together rather than against each
>other.
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Re: [tw5] Way to return the number of tiddlers tagged with title?

[Aidan Grey]

<$count filter="[tag[Fiction]]"/>

I think that's the syntax

On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 5:37 PM Scott Kingery 
wrote:

> If, for example, I have a main Tiddler called "Fiction" and then I have
> other tiddlers Tagged as "Fiction". Is there a way on the main "Fiction"
> page to show how many tiddlers are tagged with that title?
>
> Thanks
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Re: [tw5] Re: clearing out search field on reload

[Aidan Grey]

$:/tags/StartupAction

On Sat, Sep 28, 2019, 5:32 AM Ste Wilson,  wrote:

> Ohhh. That's useful.
> What tag do I need to get <$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/temp/search"
> $value=""/> working?
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Re: [tw5] Re: List of tiddlers in multiple list fields

[Aidan Grey]

And then add "+[sort[title]]" or however you want to sort.

On Thu, Sep 26, 2019, 10:18 AM Riz,  wrote:

> Have you tried
>
> <$list filter="[list[Tiddler A]] [list[Tiddler B]] [list[Tiddler C]]">
>
> Sincerely,
> Riz
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[tw5] Re: Hey Mat - question on newtids

[Aidan Grey]

Nope, this is my own class, but it's probably not all that different from 
yours:

.c4 { 
column-count: 4; 
column-gap: 1em; 
column-rule: 1px solid;
}



Thanks for your help - I'll bump it on the weekend.

On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 12:52:58 PM UTC-6, Mat wrote:
>
> I don't have time to dig into this right now but I should have time in the 
> weekend. Bump this thread to the top again then.
> When you say "multicolumn class" is this the multicolumn class that I have 
> created? Cos it's not part of the newtids macro if I recall. I have a class 
> named such but I'm only half sure I've published it so I just want to know 
> if that's the one you're referring to.
>
>
> <:-)
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[tw5] Re: clearing out search field on reload

[Aidan Grey]

You are the man, Ton! Thanks! I should have known it would be that simple...


On Monday, September 23, 2019 at 1:12:18 PM UTC-6, Ton Gerner wrote:
>
> Hi Aidan,
>
> Advanced search uses $:/temp/advancedsearch
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ton
>
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[tw5] Hey Mat - question on newtids

[Aidan Grey]

Heya Mat,

I use your newtids macro pretty extensively - thank you for an awesome tool!

I have two usability tweaks I'd like to make - can you help me out / direct 
where to edit?


   1.  I have a multicolumn class - where / how do I apply it so that my 
   list appears in multiple columns?
   2. I'd like to add a new class / formatting (diff color text) to links / 
   tiddlers that now exist, for this macro only (i.e. I don't want to change 
   all my link colors, just the ones here) - any ideas?
   

Thanks,
Aidan

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[tw5] Re: tiddlywiki uses

[Aidan Grey]

I have about 30 TW that get regular use:

   - resources, where I keep plugins, macros, snippets, how to's, TWified 
   fonts, etc for easy copy into other TW
   - Divination of all kinds is one of my passions, so I have TW for 
   several different methods, notes, my own commentary, etc. Yi Jinmg, 
   Geomancy, Numerology, Traditional Astrology, Cartomancy are some of the 
   distinct TW I keep.
   - Writing a book on how to create your own divination system - using TW 
   for content edit #2 because it's easier to move tiddlers around and add new 
   ones than it is to fiddle with word documents
   - Using TW as a tool to sort - one of the processes I use is to take a 
   metric buttload (~150L, BTW)  of meanings and situations, and tag them with 
   potential tokens. For example, the end of a relationship could be tagged 
   with end and relationship. Once I've done this for all/enough of the 
   meanings (I have a list of about 12k I'm working through at the moment), I 
   can then start sorting the tokens into final tokens (cards, runes, what 
   have you). Those final tokens become the cards/runes/bones/etc I then 
   design. This makes it easy to have a meaning that shows up in multiple 
   places (thanks to tags) to indicate different nuances.
   - The rules doc / setting details for my homebrew TTRPG.
   - Starting to work on an endless choose your own / text-based RPG based 
   on FUDGE/FATE. It's sorting out the engine stuff that's the hard part
   - As the divination interest might indicate... I'm a spooky guy. I teach 
   classes on Animism, divination, and magic of a bunch of varieties. Each of 
   those classes has their own TW for notes, questions, observations, bits to 
   add, etc.
   - I keep a materia magica - the tools, components, spells etc. I use 
   magically. Essentially, a magical cookbook, with tiddlers for recipes as 
   well as for ingredients and techniques.
   - Notes on various inspiring religious traditions and ideas (Shinto, 
   Druidry, ATRs, other Animisms)
   - Writing a few grimoires - manuals for working with specific spirits 
   and/or traditions. TW is perfect for these.
   - Big language geek - I am a conlanger (I CONstruct LANGuages) and 
   member of Language Creation Society. I have TW for the grammar of my 
   language, another as a dictionary (learning much from recent thread on 
   dictionary slowdown), and for the conworld (CONstructed world) and 
   conpeople that use my lang.
   - Notes on other languages I am learning / enjoy - currently, that's 
   separate TWs for Finnish, Native American Languages (mostly Cherokee and 
   Ute at the moment), Japanese, Korean, and Celtic (I speak Irish and Welsh, 
   have an MA in Celtic langs, so...)
   - Writing a book on a/the Spider Goddess (have a thing for spiders - 
   born 3wks premature because a black widow bit mother who went into shock 
   then labor - unfortunately, it wasn't radioactive), so notes, text, etc. 
   all goes into a TW
   - Have an elemental system based on 3 forces / 9 elements, and that's 
   all explained in TW. There's a huge yi jing - like divination system that 
   goes with it, based on combinations of the 9 elements (729 "trees" result), 
   and they're explored via TW too - the random tool and a tiddler per "tree".


I keep all of these on a thumb drive that I back up nightly (or so). SO 
much easier to use for me that trying to set up / use a traditional wiki. 
Especially since they're primarily / only for ME. I don't get the "dirty 
looks" from the wiki farms about not sharing, no need to pay to have all 
the wikis I want, etc. It's easy to switch back and forth when there's 
overlap (frequently), easy to spin up a new, self-contained topic wiki, 
fairly hackable to get exactly what I want functionality and look wise.I 
like that I can be as organic or linear as I want: the grammar is pretty 
linear, uses ToC and various plugins / field to keep things orderly, the 
sorting is going from super organic to linear, and the materia magica is 
staying pretty organic overall.

Work notes - I've thought about it, but too hard with the way things are 
set up. So I BuJo those. Only forget all the obnoxious "spend to weeks to 
make the monthly layout pretty" BS. I'm super practical there - it's a half 
page labeled "September" with a list of things and that's it. Messy, but 
useful. And strangely organized.

Okay, that's enough of that.

On Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 3:54:01 AM UTC-6, Luis Gonzalez wrote:
>
> How do you use tiddlywiky?
>
>
> The more I use tiddlywiki the more I like it.
> This is the wiki I use in my work to take notes.
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[tw5] clearing out search field on reload

[Aidan Grey]

Hey all,

I can't find it, but a month or so ago, someone wanted to prevent their TW 
from loading with previous search criteria. The solution was simple:

<$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/temp/search" $value=""/>

My problem - I've moved the search to a new location, and it's all advanced 
all the time:

Tiddler: Search
Tagged:  $:/tags/SideBar


<>



The question:

How do I set THAT search to be empty by default / at startup / after reload?



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Re: Re: [tw5] Hitting a barrier at 36,000 tiddlers

[Aidan Grey]

Recent list has come up many times as an issue in this thread. How can we
limit it to the last 10/20/etc. tiddlers? I'm tempted to drop it altogether
in my tws.

On Sat, Sep 21, 2019, 9:00 AM @TiddlyTweeter, 
wrote:

> TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Actualy I think there may be some fundamental assumptions made in the
>> typically sized wikis that a wrong at scale. For example the recent
>> tiddlers list can get very large. When saving the noscript section can add
>> a 50% to file size.
>>
>> Somehow Jeremy and others avoid this at scale as did my example but are
>> we avoiding performance issues through techniques we have a gut instinct
>> for but are not quantified or published?
>>
>
> I'm just an end user. Waiting for some tips. Like a list of things to do
> and not do. x
>
> TT
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Re: [tw5] Wrong tag

[Aidan Grey]

In edit mode, click on the little x in the trash

On Tue, Sep 17, 2019, 8:53 AM Аквариус Филиал, 
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> Good afternoon.
> Tell me please how to remove or edit incorrectly entered tag (specified
> 'interEnet' should be of course 'internet')?
>
> Thanks for your help.
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Re: [tw5] Re: The documentation is bad

[Aidan Grey]

As a business analyst for the last 20+ years

Expecting community documentation NEVER works, not in a business and def
not in the tech community (it does work well among fandom, but... That's
not the same).

So what is needed, imho, is a committed team to address and collect
documentation, and that would maintain going forward. They'd need to be
people with skill at writing use docs too (to address some of the too terse
issues).

I think someone else basically said the same above, and this is my
agreement. Without _someone(s)_ willing to manage this, it's never going to
happen.

On Mon, Sep 16, 2019, 9:20 AM @TiddlyTweeter, 
wrote:

> Mark S.
>
> Good practical post.
>
> My take on it: we need a consolidated search mechanism better honed to
> finding things over  the major source materials.
>
> TT
>
> On Monday, 16 September 2019 16:08:40 UTC+2, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> Not that I would disagree about the documentation, but a small bit of
>> your problem was Google search. It lead you to a static
>> page that limited your other search options. In the upper right hand
>> portion of the page it was tagged "TiddlyWiki on Node.js"
>> which was meant to tip you off to the context.
>>
>> If you had gone to tiddlywiki.com, and typed "static" into the search,
>> you would have seen the same tiddler listed. But you would also have
>> seen hundreds of other possibilities including
>>
>> "How to export tiddlers"
>>
>> which is probably what you really wanted.
>>
>> When I'm looking for something about TiddlyWiki, and I think it's likely
>> part of the core, my first stop is TiddlyWiki.com.
>>
>> If I'm looking for something about TiddlyWiki, and I think it's likely a
>> 3rd party resource, my second stop is David Gifford's TiddlyWiki Toolmap
>> .
>>
>> If it was easy to do, I would modify "Generating Static Sites with
>> TiddlyWiki" to include a link at the top to the exporting files option.
>> However, all the documentation is done through GitHub and the methodology
>> was changed without, ironically, a clear explanation
>> of how to implement that change. Working this way is like building a ship
>> in a bottle or mining a mountain with a tooth pick.
>>
>> Like others, I had started my own documentation for TW, but then realized
>> that it would be an enormous amount of work, and
>> would only have whatever visibility it happened to gain via Google.
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>> On Monday, September 16, 2019 at 2:40:12 AM UTC-7, un.o...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I love TiddlyWiki but I hate its documentation.
>>>
>>> Let me give you an example. I want to export my tiddlywiki to a static
>>> HTML web site, I spent an hour without success.
>>>
>>> Google gives me
>>>
>>> https://tiddlywiki.com/static/Generating%2520Static%2520Sites%2520with%2520TiddlyWiki.html
>>> which tells me to use --rendertiddlers
>>>
>>> Note that if I click on a link to the command I go to
>>> https://tiddlywiki.com/static/RenderTiddlersCommand.html
>>> where it is said I should not use `--rendertiddlers` but `--render`.
>>> If so, why don't the first page use `--render`?
>>>
>>> Whatever, what confuse me is how to use `--rendertiddlers`, I mean
>>> where to type the code?
>>>
>>> It looks like an option of some command from my Unix point of view but
>>> maybe there is some place in my tiddlywiki I should type that command which
>>> starts with `--`. So I searched if I could change the type of a tiddler to
>>> be executable, if there is a special tiddler hidden to run that command,
>>> but without success.
>>>
>>> Then I looked for `commands` in TiddlyWiki and I see
>>> "A command is one of the following words, written with a -- prefix and
>>> used as a command-line option under Node.js,"
>>>
>>> Argh, does it means I have to learn how to use Node.js? There is no
>>> other way to export my pages? Hopefully there is a link to
>>> "Using TiddlyWiki on Node.js".
>>>
>>> Here I find that indeed `--render` is an option of a command and not a
>>> command itself and that the main command is `tiddlywiki`.
>>> What the hell is the program tiddlywiki? For years I thought that
>>> tiddlywiki was the empty.html file.
>>>
>>> So there is a tiddlywiki program. How do I download it? Is there is a
>>> version for Linux? When I search in Debian packages I cannot find it.
>>>
>>> So I am stuck and I lost a lot of time. A good documentation would have
>>> given me the command line from the beginning (at least in an exemple) and
>>> of course it would have explain me how to download the tiddlywiki program.
>>> Of course it would not suggest to use --rendertiddlers and somewhere else
>>> says that it is deprecated.
>>>
>>> One example does not make a documentation to be bad, but I must say it
>>> happened to me more than once that I had to find help on the Internet to
>>> understand the documentation. That's a pity because TiddlyWiki is great.
>>>
>>> Olivier.
>>>
>>> ps: I have no idea why that mail 

Re: [tw5] Select text from a line in a text file wiki

[Aidan Grey]

Erk...hit send on accident. Re-read and discovered i addressed wrong issue
but them my pinky...

Filter="[Search[abc]]"

The tiddlywiki article on the search operator has more details



On Thu, Sep 12, 2019, 3:44 PM Aidan Grey,  wrote:

> [Prefix[abc]]
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019, 3:33 PM Melvin,  wrote:
>
>> I have a tiddler called alphabet with the following content
>>
>> a
>> ab
>> abc
>> abcd
>>
>> I want to create a filter expression that selects abc and abcd. So the
>> result would be:
>>
>> abc
>> abcd
>>
>>
>> I thought I would need to write something along the lines of:
>>
>> [regexp:text[abc]]
>>
>> or
>>
>> [title[alphabet][text[abc]]
>>
>>
>> but at best variations on these types of method only give me the title as
>> the result, which is:
>> alphabet
>>
>> So what filter expression would I need to make that shows the text
>> content itself of the specific tiddler called alphabet?
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Re: [tw5] Select text from a line in a text file wiki

[Aidan Grey]

[Prefix[abc]]



On Thu, Sep 12, 2019, 3:33 PM Melvin,  wrote:

> I have a tiddler called alphabet with the following content
>
> a
> ab
> abc
> abcd
>
> I want to create a filter expression that selects abc and abcd. So the
> result would be:
>
> abc
> abcd
>
>
> I thought I would need to write something along the lines of:
>
> [regexp:text[abc]]
>
> or
>
> [title[alphabet][text[abc]]
>
>
> but at best variations on these types of method only give me the title as
> the result, which is:
> alphabet
>
> So what filter expression would I need to make that shows the text content
> itself of the specific tiddler called alphabet?
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Re: [tw5] Wiki to write "making-decisions" stories

[Aidan Grey]

This is an eternal quest(ion)... People have all sorts of ideas about how
to accomplish this.

Thanks for another excellent addition!

On Thu, Sep 12, 2019, 5:59 AM Luis Gonzalez,  wrote:

> Did you remember the Popular Decision Making Books?. With this wiki you
> can write this kind of stories.
>
> I have hide all controls but the wiki has two tricks:
>
>
>- If you press CTRL + P it shows a modal wiki to show the hide
>elements.
>- If you press CTRL + S you can save manually the wiki.
>
>
> If you want to write a new story, press CTRL + P to show the hide
> elements. Choose a title and subtitle for the wiki. Delete the story
> tiddlers included and write your own story.
>
> The last task is to hide again all elements and press CTRL + S to save it
> manually.
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[tw5] Filter by count

[Aidan Grey]

Hey all,

I've got the following list:

<$list filter="[tag[group]!title[groupTemplate]sort[title]]">
<$link>{{!!title}}: <$count filter="[tag{!!title}]"/>


How do I adjust that to filter and show only the items that have a count of 
0?

Thanks
Aidan

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Re: [tw5] Can we prefill known tags?

[Aidan Grey]

Couple ways...

For some, i just explicitly exclude in the filter :

[tag[groups]!title[grouptags]]

I also use "noshow" tags excluded as above, for the more frequent occuring
bits.

And then i also have an ignore tiddler containing tags that i never want to
see anywhere (mostly for admin/meta type tags). I have set up the filters
to always exclude these, and have one place where i filter for them
explicitly to see for editing etc.

On Mon, Sep 9, 2019, 9:28 AM Devin Weaver,  wrote:

> I thought about that. How do you prevent that tiddler from being included
> in any lists for said tags?
>
> On Monday, September 9, 2019 at 10:48:13 AM UTC-4, Aidan Grey wrote:
>>
>> Lots of ways...
>>
>> I keep a tag tiddler, just to hold tags like this - that's probably the
>> easiest thing to do.
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 9, 2019, 8:43 AM Devin Weaver,  wrote:
>>
>>> I noticed a situation in my TiddlyWiki where I will tag a tiddler with
>>> one of three tags: Pending, InProgress, inReview. But when one of those
>>> tags has no tiddlers it is removed from the drop down when editing
>>> tiddlers. Which means that I have to type the tag in when there there are
>>> no tiddlers currently tagged with it.
>>>
>>> Is there a way to prefill that list? In normal usage I like that tags
>>> are removed from the drop down but in this one edge case I like to pin some
>>> tags to always be in the drop down for selecting even when there are no
>>> tiddlers currently tagged with that tag.
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Re: [tw5] Can we prefill known tags?

[Aidan Grey]

Lots of ways...

I keep a tag tiddler, just to hold tags like this - that's probably the
easiest thing to do.

On Mon, Sep 9, 2019, 8:43 AM Devin Weaver,  wrote:

> I noticed a situation in my TiddlyWiki where I will tag a tiddler with one
> of three tags: Pending, InProgress, inReview. But when one of those tags
> has no tiddlers it is removed from the drop down when editing tiddlers.
> Which means that I have to type the tag in when there there are no tiddlers
> currently tagged with it.
>
> Is there a way to prefill that list? In normal usage I like that tags are
> removed from the drop down but in this one edge case I like to pin some
> tags to always be in the drop down for selecting even when there are no
> tiddlers currently tagged with that tag.
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Re: [tw5] Sorting or restricting a list filter by index

[Aidan Grey]

Just change this

filter='[tag[person]sort[team]]'>

To this

filter='[tag[person]team[android]sort[team]]'>



On Mon, Sep 9, 2019, 7:02 AM Christian Macedo, 
wrote:

> I've got a set of data tiddlers each of which are structured as below
>
> name:James Brown
> team:Android
> location:Norway
> ...
>
> And a list filter that looks like this.
>
> 
>   NAME
>   TEAM
>   LOCATION
>   <$list filter='[tag[person]sort[team]]'>
> 
>   <$link to=<>><$view index='name'/>
>   {{##team}}
>   {{##location}}
> 
>   
> 
>
> A table is produced with all the tiddlers that match the filter criteria.
> What I would like to do however is to modify the filter such that it shows
> a table row for for each tiddler whose *team *field is 'Android'.
>
> btw, data tiddlers are my new favourite thing. Congrats to the whole team.
> Again!
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[tw5] Filter for Tiddlers Modified Before a date

[Aidan Grey]

Heya,

I know how to get the internal tiddlywiki code for the modified date - how 
do I filter for the tiddlers that were last modified before that date?

Use case - my sorting thing, where I need to sort a huge list of items into 
categories via tagging. New categories may be discovered and added.

If the new category "Baking" is created on date 20190906181756050, how do I 
filter to get all the items that were sorted before/last modified before 
that new category was created? I will need to go back and make sure that I 
tag any items that I may have missed before. For example, I may just tagged 
"walnuts" in Nuts, but they should be tagged for Baking too, now that I 
have that category.

Thanks,
Aidan

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Re: [tw5] Re: Checkbox Tagging with a transclusion

[Aidan Grey]

Umami IS related to naturally occurring glutamates - it's LITERALLY the
definition of umami. :)

And the whole "allergic to MSG" thing has been demonstrated false by MANY
studies. The current theory for why is that it's thinly veiled racism
(sometimes carried over into later generations).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monosodium_glutamate#Controversy

On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 7:03 PM TonyM  wrote:

> Aidan,
>
> I would not be surprised it the umami is related to naturally occuring
> MSG, which a lot of alternative health people or those avoiding added MSG
> just don't get, a Healthy diet includes foods that contains natural MSG.
> Interestingly a lot of people who claim problems with MSG are possibly
> "reacting" to something completely different because when it is naturally
> occuring nothing happens. This also a case of watching out for the common
> "Natural Fallacy" where people claim a palpable difference between
> something sourced "naturally"  from the same thing "added artificially"
> when they are* exactly the same thing*. Of course artificial additives
> leave room for larger concentrations but often this is not the case.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Friday, September 6, 2019 at 7:14:41 AM UTC+10, Aidan Grey wrote:
>>
>> That works perfectly! Thanks Mark!
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 12:32 PM Aidan Grey  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Mark, I'll test tonight.
>>>
>>> And yeah... Tomatoes are umami, especially as tomato paste.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 5, 2019, 12:14 PM 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki, <
>>> tiddl...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Here's a small starter kit. Drag and drop into your (saved and
>>>> backed-up) TW file.
>>>>
>>>> Each item where you want to have a list appear needs to be tagged
>>>> "categorylist". Then a list appears where you can click and tag from the
>>>> categories available as tags in the "Categories" tiddler.
>>>>
>>>> So, tomatoes are "umami" ?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, September 5, 2019 at 8:46:42 AM UTC-7, Aidan Grey wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't know if this is possible - can anyone educate me? Is there a
>>>>> better way for me to to do this?
>>>>>
>>>>> ---
>>>>>
>>>>> User case: I am sorting a huge list of items into 50+ categories,
>>>>> where each item in the list can belong to multiple categories. I will need
>>>>> to add additional categories as I go. In the end, I want to be able to 
>>>>> pick
>>>>> a category tiddler, and list all the items that are tagged with it.
>>>>>
>>>>> What I want to do is *transclude *a tiddler with the checkboxes, so I
>>>>> can update the category checkboxes in one place. The checkboxes in the
>>>>> transclusion should toggle only the tags on the tiddler that is
>>>>> transcluding. So, for example:
>>>>>
>>>>> Tiddler: Categories - has checkboxes tied to tags, with values like
>>>>> fruit, vegetable, meat, dairy, etc.
>>>>> - if I add another checkbox/category, that new category will show up
>>>>> on all item tiddlers
>>>>> - it will not be checked on any item unless I go back through the
>>>>> items again and check it myself
>>>>>
>>>>> Tiddler: Apple
>>>>> - transcludes Categories
>>>>> - when I click on fruit category / checkbox, tags Apple with fruit
>>>>>
>>>>> Tiddler: Tomato
>>>>> - transcludes Categories
>>>>> - when I click on fruit category / checkbox, tags Tomato with fruit
>>>>> - when I click on vegetable category / checkbox, also tags Tomato with
>>>>> vegetable
>>>>>
>>>>> Tiddler: Mushroom
>>>>> - transcludes Categories
>>>>> - when I click on vegetable category / checkbox, tags Mushroom with
>>>>> vegetable
>>>>> - I decide I want another category, so I go to Categories tiddler, and
>>>>> add a new checkbox for "umami"
>>>>> -- come back to this tiddler, umami is now a visible item in my
>>>>> checkbox list, and I check it to tag this tiddler with "umami"
>>>>>
>>>>> Tiddler Tomato
>>>>> - go 

Re: [tw5] Re: Checkbox Tagging with a transclusion

[Aidan Grey]

That works perfectly! Thanks Mark!

On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 12:32 PM Aidan Grey  wrote:

> Thanks Mark, I'll test tonight.
>
> And yeah... Tomatoes are umami, especially as tomato paste.
>
> On Thu, Sep 5, 2019, 12:14 PM 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki, <
> tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Here's a small starter kit. Drag and drop into your (saved and backed-up)
>> TW file.
>>
>> Each item where you want to have a list appear needs to be tagged
>> "categorylist". Then a list appears where you can click and tag from the
>> categories available as tags in the "Categories" tiddler.
>>
>> So, tomatoes are "umami" ?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Mark
>>
>> On Thursday, September 5, 2019 at 8:46:42 AM UTC-7, Aidan Grey wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey all,
>>>
>>> Don't know if this is possible - can anyone educate me? Is there a
>>> better way for me to to do this?
>>>
>>> ---
>>>
>>> User case: I am sorting a huge list of items into 50+ categories, where
>>> each item in the list can belong to multiple categories. I will need to add
>>> additional categories as I go. In the end, I want to be able to pick a
>>> category tiddler, and list all the items that are tagged with it.
>>>
>>> What I want to do is *transclude *a tiddler with the checkboxes, so I
>>> can update the category checkboxes in one place. The checkboxes in the
>>> transclusion should toggle only the tags on the tiddler that is
>>> transcluding. So, for example:
>>>
>>> Tiddler: Categories - has checkboxes tied to tags, with values like
>>> fruit, vegetable, meat, dairy, etc.
>>> - if I add another checkbox/category, that new category will show up on
>>> all item tiddlers
>>> - it will not be checked on any item unless I go back through the items
>>> again and check it myself
>>>
>>> Tiddler: Apple
>>> - transcludes Categories
>>> - when I click on fruit category / checkbox, tags Apple with fruit
>>>
>>> Tiddler: Tomato
>>> - transcludes Categories
>>> - when I click on fruit category / checkbox, tags Tomato with fruit
>>> - when I click on vegetable category / checkbox, also tags Tomato with
>>> vegetable
>>>
>>> Tiddler: Mushroom
>>> - transcludes Categories
>>> - when I click on vegetable category / checkbox, tags Mushroom with
>>> vegetable
>>> - I decide I want another category, so I go to Categories tiddler, and
>>> add a new checkbox for "umami"
>>> -- come back to this tiddler, umami is now a visible item in my checkbox
>>> list, and I check it to tag this tiddler with "umami"
>>>
>>> Tiddler Tomato
>>> - go back here, and click umami checkbox
>>>
>>> Tiddler: Fruit
>>> - lists all the tiddlers tagged fruit (Apple, Tomato)
>>>
>>> Tiddler: Vegetable
>>> - lists all the tiddlers tagged vegetable (Tomato)
>>>
>>> Tiddler: Umami
>>> - lists all the tiddlers tagged umami (Mushroom, Tomato)
>>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Checkbox Tagging with a transclusion

[Aidan Grey]

Thanks Mark, I'll test tonight.

And yeah... Tomatoes are umami, especially as tomato paste.

On Thu, Sep 5, 2019, 12:14 PM 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki, <
tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Here's a small starter kit. Drag and drop into your (saved and backed-up)
> TW file.
>
> Each item where you want to have a list appear needs to be tagged
> "categorylist". Then a list appears where you can click and tag from the
> categories available as tags in the "Categories" tiddler.
>
> So, tomatoes are "umami" ?
>
> Thanks!
> Mark
>
> On Thursday, September 5, 2019 at 8:46:42 AM UTC-7, Aidan Grey wrote:
>>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> Don't know if this is possible - can anyone educate me? Is there a better
>> way for me to to do this?
>>
>> ---
>>
>> User case: I am sorting a huge list of items into 50+ categories, where
>> each item in the list can belong to multiple categories. I will need to add
>> additional categories as I go. In the end, I want to be able to pick a
>> category tiddler, and list all the items that are tagged with it.
>>
>> What I want to do is *transclude *a tiddler with the checkboxes, so I
>> can update the category checkboxes in one place. The checkboxes in the
>> transclusion should toggle only the tags on the tiddler that is
>> transcluding. So, for example:
>>
>> Tiddler: Categories - has checkboxes tied to tags, with values like
>> fruit, vegetable, meat, dairy, etc.
>> - if I add another checkbox/category, that new category will show up on
>> all item tiddlers
>> - it will not be checked on any item unless I go back through the items
>> again and check it myself
>>
>> Tiddler: Apple
>> - transcludes Categories
>> - when I click on fruit category / checkbox, tags Apple with fruit
>>
>> Tiddler: Tomato
>> - transcludes Categories
>> - when I click on fruit category / checkbox, tags Tomato with fruit
>> - when I click on vegetable category / checkbox, also tags Tomato with
>> vegetable
>>
>> Tiddler: Mushroom
>> - transcludes Categories
>> - when I click on vegetable category / checkbox, tags Mushroom with
>> vegetable
>> - I decide I want another category, so I go to Categories tiddler, and
>> add a new checkbox for "umami"
>> -- come back to this tiddler, umami is now a visible item in my checkbox
>> list, and I check it to tag this tiddler with "umami"
>>
>> Tiddler Tomato
>> - go back here, and click umami checkbox
>>
>> Tiddler: Fruit
>> - lists all the tiddlers tagged fruit (Apple, Tomato)
>>
>> Tiddler: Vegetable
>> - lists all the tiddlers tagged vegetable (Tomato)
>>
>> Tiddler: Umami
>> - lists all the tiddlers tagged umami (Mushroom, Tomato)
>>
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[tw5] Checkbox Tagging with a transclusion

[Aidan Grey]

Hey all,

Don't know if this is possible - can anyone educate me? Is there a better 
way for me to to do this?

---

User case: I am sorting a huge list of items into 50+ categories, where 
each item in the list can belong to multiple categories. I will need to add 
additional categories as I go. In the end, I want to be able to pick a 
category tiddler, and list all the items that are tagged with it.

What I want to do is *transclude *a tiddler with the checkboxes, so I can 
update the category checkboxes in one place. The checkboxes in the 
transclusion should toggle only the tags on the tiddler that is 
transcluding. So, for example:

Tiddler: Categories - has checkboxes tied to tags, with values like fruit, 
vegetable, meat, dairy, etc.
- if I add another checkbox/category, that new category will show up on all 
item tiddlers
- it will not be checked on any item unless I go back through the items 
again and check it myself

Tiddler: Apple 
- transcludes Categories
- when I click on fruit category / checkbox, tags Apple with fruit

Tiddler: Tomato
- transcludes Categories
- when I click on fruit category / checkbox, tags Tomato with fruit
- when I click on vegetable category / checkbox, also tags Tomato with 
vegetable

Tiddler: Mushroom
- transcludes Categories
- when I click on vegetable category / checkbox, tags Mushroom with 
vegetable
- I decide I want another category, so I go to Categories tiddler, and add 
a new checkbox for "umami"
-- come back to this tiddler, umami is now a visible item in my checkbox 
list, and I check it to tag this tiddler with "umami"

Tiddler Tomato
- go back here, and click umami checkbox

Tiddler: Fruit
- lists all the tiddlers tagged fruit (Apple, Tomato)

Tiddler: Vegetable
- lists all the tiddlers tagged vegetable (Tomato)

Tiddler: Umami
- lists all the tiddlers tagged umami (Mushroom, Tomato)

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Re: [tw5] Re: Question re edit toolbar buttons and inserting text from fields

[Aidan Grey]

Ah! I see now.

I think you'll have to (get someone to) write a plugin for that. I could be
wrong though... Maybe someone else here knows.

On Fri, Aug 30, 2019, 12:02 PM David Gifford,  wrote:

> Hi Aiden
>
> Perhaps my original post wasn't clear enough.
>
> You are correct that stamping what you gave me will SHOW the contents of
> the source field of the current tiddler. But if I copy and paste that note
> in another tiddler in a totally different file, it will unfortunately show
> the contents of the source field of the new tiddler, not the original one.
> So I will lose data upon transfer. I want something that grabs the content
> of the source field of the original tiddler and stamps it as TEXT, not
> stamping stuff like {{}}.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> David Gifford
>
> On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 12:20 PM Aidan Grey  wrote:
>
>> I'm not sure i understand. It should say {{!!source}} in edit mode, but
>> when you save the tiddler, it should show the content of the source field.
>> It's not doing that?
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 30, 2019, 11:16 AM David Gifford,  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Aiden
>>>
>>> Thanks for the effort. But this is the problem: it stamps {{!!source}}
>>> instead of stamping the contents of the source field. So when I copy and
>>> paste this to another tiddler, it will show as whatever is in the source
>>> field of that tiddler. I need something that stamps the field content as
>>> text.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 30, 2019 at 10:05:48 AM UTC-5, Aidan Grey wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Have you tried {{!!source}}?
>>>>
>>>> This is how I'd do it, as a stamp.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <$action-sendmessage
>>>>$message="tm-edit-text-operation"
>>>>$param="replace-selection"
>>>>text="""
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> - {{!!source}} 'Sound Mapping', p. 
>>>> 
>>>> """ />
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, August 30, 2019 at 7:27:38 AM UTC-6, David Gifford wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all
>>>>>
>>>>> I am trying to combine steps but I can't wrap my head around it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like an editor toolbar button that does three things:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Inserts outer text A
>>>>> 2. Grabs and inserts as text the contents of a special field of the
>>>>> current tiddler
>>>>> 3. Inserts outer text B
>>>>>
>>>>> I want the final result to look like
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>>
>>>>> - resumen de Lee, M. E., 2017 'Sound Mapping', p.
>>>>> 
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>>
>>>>> But where
>>>>>
>>>>> Lee, M. E., 2017 'Sound Mapping'
>>>>>
>>>>> is the contents of the source field of the tiddler I am working in,
>>>>> and everything before and after wraps around it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am getting stamps and buttons and filters and macros all scrambled
>>>>> in my brain.
>>>>>
>>>>> The solutions I have come up with always end up inserting the {{
>>>>> "[[]]" }} or whatever else I use to access the contents of the field. But 
>>>>> I
>>>>> want to insert the actual content of the field as text, so when I transfer
>>>>> the above to another tiddler, it will retain the source from the first
>>>>> tiddler rather than looking for the source field of the new tiddler.
>>>>>
>>>>> The use case is for taking notes in a tiddler representing a book.
>>>>> Each note is wrapped with the definition list line, and the source is 
>>>>> added
>>>>> automatically at the end of the note. Then I manually transfer the 
>>>>> content,
>>>>> definition list tags and all, to a tiddler (in another Tiddlywiki)
>>>>> representing a topic that the note is about. That way I take notes by book
>>>>> but organize notes by topic for publishing in definition lists. Then I
>>>>> export as static and the end result looks like this
>>>>> http://articulos.giffmex.org/evangelios/genero.html.
>>>>>
>>>>> My current process is A) an editor

Re: [tw5] Re: Question re edit toolbar buttons and inserting text from fields

[Aidan Grey]

I'm not sure i understand. It should say {{!!source}} in edit mode, but
when you save the tiddler, it should show the content of the source field.
It's not doing that?

On Fri, Aug 30, 2019, 11:16 AM David Gifford,  wrote:

> Hi Aiden
>
> Thanks for the effort. But this is the problem: it stamps {{!!source}}
> instead of stamping the contents of the source field. So when I copy and
> paste this to another tiddler, it will show as whatever is in the source
> field of that tiddler. I need something that stamps the field content as
> text.
>
> Dave
>
> On Friday, August 30, 2019 at 10:05:48 AM UTC-5, Aidan Grey wrote:
>>
>>
>> Have you tried {{!!source}}?
>>
>> This is how I'd do it, as a stamp.
>>
>>
>> <$action-sendmessage
>>  $message="tm-edit-text-operation"
>>  $param="replace-selection"
>>  text="""
>>
>>  
>>
>> - {{!!source}} 'Sound Mapping', p. 
>> 
>> """ />
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, August 30, 2019 at 7:27:38 AM UTC-6, David Gifford wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> I am trying to combine steps but I can't wrap my head around it.
>>>
>>> I would like an editor toolbar button that does three things:
>>>
>>> 1. Inserts outer text A
>>> 2. Grabs and inserts as text the contents of a special field of the
>>> current tiddler
>>> 3. Inserts outer text B
>>>
>>> I want the final result to look like
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> - resumen de Lee, M. E., 2017 'Sound Mapping', p.
>>> 
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> But where
>>>
>>> Lee, M. E., 2017 'Sound Mapping'
>>>
>>> is the contents of the source field of the tiddler I am working in, and
>>> everything before and after wraps around it.
>>>
>>> I am getting stamps and buttons and filters and macros all scrambled in
>>> my brain.
>>>
>>> The solutions I have come up with always end up inserting the {{ "[[]]"
>>> }} or whatever else I use to access the contents of the field. But I want
>>> to insert the actual content of the field as text, so when I transfer the
>>> above to another tiddler, it will retain the source from the first tiddler
>>> rather than looking for the source field of the new tiddler.
>>>
>>> The use case is for taking notes in a tiddler representing a book. Each
>>> note is wrapped with the definition list line, and the source is added
>>> automatically at the end of the note. Then I manually transfer the content,
>>> definition list tags and all, to a tiddler (in another Tiddlywiki)
>>> representing a topic that the note is about. That way I take notes by book
>>> but organize notes by topic for publishing in definition lists. Then I
>>> export as static and the end result looks like this
>>> http://articulos.giffmex.org/evangelios/genero.html.
>>>
>>> My current process is A) an editor toolbar button to insert the
>>> definition list, then B) a separate stamp to insert the contents of a
>>> 'source' tiddler, and C) change the source tiddler every time I switch
>>> between books. Instead, I would like to just create the book tiddler, add
>>> the source data for the book into a source field of that tiddler, then
>>> click an editor toolbar button once each time I add a new note, without
>>> having to repeat steps B and C.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance to anyone who has the time and patience to walk me
>>> through this.
>>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: How to apply a template to every tiddler with a certain tag?

[Aidan Grey]

Can a template be applied after the tiddler is created, without
transclusion? That doesn't seem possible...

Anyone know?

On Thu, Aug 29, 2019, 5:53 PM 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki, <
tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> <$list filter="[all[current]tag[tag1]]">
> Your template text here
> 
>
> On Thursday, August 29, 2019 at 4:13:10 PM UTC-7, si wrote:
>>
>> Hi there
>>
>> As per the title, I am trying to apply Template1 to every tiddler tagged
>> "tag1" and Template2 to every tiddler tagged "tag2".
>>
>> I am aware that a template tagged $:/tags/ViewTemplate will apply to all
>> tiddlers in the wiki, but I can't figure out anything beyond that?
>>
>> Any help would be much appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks in advance
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Re: [tw5] match code and body text font sizes

[Aidan Grey]

You want to go to settings. The gear in the sidebar, then appearance, then
theme tweaks.

You'll be able to set a bunch of font sizes.

If that doesn't work, let us know

On Thu, Aug 29, 2019, 6:55 PM Devin Short,  wrote:

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> have a question about text formatting.
>
> I started a TW from the empty wiki, and the font settings change when the
> window is small enough to stack the sidebar above the story river. When the
> sidebar and the river are stacked, inline code is the same font size as
> tiddler body text. When the sidebar is at the right, inline code is smaller
> than the tiddler body text.
>
> I want to keep inline code as large as the body text. Where are the font
> settings for the two different environments?
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[tw5] Re: Question re edit toolbar buttons and inserting text from fields

[Aidan Grey]

Have you tried {{!!source}}?

This is how I'd do it, as a stamp.


<$action-sendmessage
$message="tm-edit-text-operation"
$param="replace-selection"
text="""



- {{!!source}} 'Sound Mapping', p. 

""" />




On Friday, August 30, 2019 at 7:27:38 AM UTC-6, David Gifford wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
> I am trying to combine steps but I can't wrap my head around it.
>
> I would like an editor toolbar button that does three things:
>
> 1. Inserts outer text A
> 2. Grabs and inserts as text the contents of a special field of the 
> current tiddler
> 3. Inserts outer text B
>
> I want the final result to look like 
>
> 
>
> - resumen de Lee, M. E., 2017 'Sound Mapping', p. 
> 
>
> 
>
> But where 
>
> Lee, M. E., 2017 'Sound Mapping'
>
> is the contents of the source field of the tiddler I am working in, and 
> everything before and after wraps around it.
>
> I am getting stamps and buttons and filters and macros all scrambled in my 
> brain.
>
> The solutions I have come up with always end up inserting the {{ "[[]]" }} 
> or whatever else I use to access the contents of the field. But I want to 
> insert the actual content of the field as text, so when I transfer the 
> above to another tiddler, it will retain the source from the first tiddler 
> rather than looking for the source field of the new tiddler.
>
> The use case is for taking notes in a tiddler representing a book. Each 
> note is wrapped with the definition list line, and the source is added 
> automatically at the end of the note. Then I manually transfer the content, 
> definition list tags and all, to a tiddler (in another Tiddlywiki) 
> representing a topic that the note is about. That way I take notes by book 
> but organize notes by topic for publishing in definition lists. Then I 
> export as static and the end result looks like this 
> http://articulos.giffmex.org/evangelios/genero.html.
>
> My current process is A) an editor toolbar button to insert the definition 
> list, then B) a separate stamp to insert the contents of a 'source' 
> tiddler, and C) change the source tiddler every time I switch between 
> books. Instead, I would like to just create the book tiddler, add the 
> source data for the book into a source field of that tiddler, then click an 
> editor toolbar button once each time I add a new note, without having to 
> repeat steps B and C.
>
> Thanks in advance to anyone who has the time and patience to walk me 
> through this.
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Re: [tw5] Re: Can I request wiki for "Henley", "Brexit", "Trump", "Hungarian Cinema" ...

[Aidan Grey]

How is NOT TW relevant to this forum?

Oh, that's right,  it's not.

On Wed, Aug 28, 2019, 7:14 AM @TiddlyTweeter, 
wrote:

> It nice, *but its about TW.*
>
> I was interested in wiki NOT about TW.
>
> On Wednesday, 28 August 2019 15:03:51 UTC+2, Dragon Cotterill wrote:
>>
>> Nothing a quick search won't find.
>>
>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/-Zihuy1HvSc
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ny9bvoFtrMc
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Re: [tw5] How to easily edit transcluded text?

[Aidan Grey]

Dont you just open the tiddler, see what was handcuffed, and go directly t
to that tiddler? Im confused how it could be difficult.

On Sun, Aug 18, 2019, 5:11 PM kat,  wrote:

> I have a bunch of tiddlers in my wiki that contain transcluded text from
> other tiddlers.
>
> I keep finding myself going to edit a tiddler, realizing the text is
> transcluded from another tiddler, then having to then search for that
> tiddler to edit the original transcluded tiddler.
>
> This is getting kind of frustrating so I wondered if there was a good
> solution that would make it easy to see in a non-invasive way that a
> tiddler contains transclusions, and then easily edit the transcluded
> tiddler without lots of awkward searching/jumping around?
>
> thanks!
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Re: [tw5] Re: Do you actually use GG "tags" to find things? -- My suspicion is its pointless

[Aidan Grey]

Ditto. They're really useful for filtering.

I also find them useful when there are specific topics defined. Knowing
what to search for / tag a general post is difficult and not as useful, but
if there are discrete categories...

I have a TW that's a dictionary, and the entries are tagged for semantic
domain. For example, the word for fingernail / shell / eggshell / chitin is
tagged with the codes for body parts, animal parts, and substances. It
makes it easy to see what I have at a glance in the same general category,
and what else I need.

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> I find them moderately useful as a filtering mechanism that can even show
> other categories I might not have thought to Search.
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Re: [tw5] Folding

[Aidan Grey]

Will the reveal widget not do what you need?

On Wed, Aug 14, 2019, 2:51 PM Matthew Liberman, <
matthew.iakov.liber...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Is there an elegant way to have folding sections of tiddlers? I've seen
> some hacks with buttons but i want to have the usual tiddler folding so i
> can have each tag transclude tiddlers tagged with it, but have each of
> those be initially folded.
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Re: [tw5] Announcing the release of TiddlyWiki v5.1.20

[Aidan Grey]

Huzzah!! Cant wait to get home and upgrade!

Thanks for all your work on this awesome tool

On Fri, Aug 9, 2019, 8:57 AM Jeremy Ruston,  wrote:

> I’m delighted to announce the release of TiddlyWiki v5.1.20:
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/
>
> This release is massive. Some of the many highlights:
>
> * New conditional filter operators “then” and “else”
> * New mathematics and string filter operators
> * Improved handling of duplicates in filters
> * Improved keyboard shortcuts
> * New saver for saving the single file version direct to GitHub or GitLab
> * New BrowserStorage plugin for saving tiddlers in browser local storage
> * New InnerWiki plugin for rendering TiddlyWiki screenshots
> * New and improved translations for Catalan, Chinese Simplified and
> Chinese Traditional, French, German, US English
> * Several new performance optimisations
> * New palettes and a new palette manager for more easily editing them
> * New and fixed animations for several system actions
> * Improved handling of JSON files
> * New mechanism to add plugins to a wiki from the command line
> * New “savewikifolder” and “deletetiddlers" commands for Node.js
> * Many bug fixes
>
> You can upgrade your existing single file wikis at:
> https://tiddlywiki.com/upgrade.html
>
> As usual, please exercise caution when working with an upgrade, and take
> care to take plenty of backups. Comments and questions welcome.
>
> It only remains to offer my sincere thanks to the many people who gave up
> their time and talents to contribute to this release.
>
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>
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Re: [tw5] Hiding right menu elements

[Aidan Grey]

Go to $:/core/ui/MoreSideBar/All and remove the tag. You can look in
More/Shadows in same area for other tabs you might want to hide too. Just
remove the tag from the tiddler.

And you can add to that place too, by adding the tag.

On Mon, Aug 5, 2019, 2:18 AM Peaceful Warrior,  wrote:

> Hello and peace to everyone!
>
> Could you help me to find a way of hidding "All" from right menu?
> So only "Orhpans" tiddlers would be shown.
>
> Thanks
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Re: [tw5] Re: What is an easy way to hide default tabs?

[Aidan Grey]

Go to $:/core/ui/SideBar/More and remove the tag. That's all it takes!

On Mon, Aug 5, 2019, 4:53 AM Birthe C,  wrote:

> Maybe use this: http://tw-admin.tiddlyspot.com/
> and hide what you want.
>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Shortcut issue

[Aidan Grey]

Yes, that's right

On Sat, Aug 3, 2019, 7:03 PM TonyM,  wrote:

> Aidan,
>
> Thanks for sharing the final solution. This is easy to readapt to using a
> shortcut to trigger any action or set of actions.
>
> Would it be better to write?
>
> $:/config/ShortcutInfo/*newShortcutname*
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Sunday, August 4, 2019 at 7:09:41 AM UTC+10, Aidan Grey wrote:
>>
>> It was the story bit - just tested it, and that fixed it. I did have tagS
>> vs tag, that was just a typo here.
>>
>>
>> So here's my step by step to create a custom global shortcut, where you
>> don't need a button, or to be in a textarea, or anything. Just hit your
>> shortcut at anytime, and voila. Obviously, your action can be changed
>> easily to whatever you need.
>>
>>
>> 1. Create tiddler named $:/config/ShortcutInfo/<>
>> 2. Give a description in textarea, if you want
>> 3. Go to Control Panel, then Keyboard Shortcuts
>> 4. Select your new shortcut name, and give it a unique shortcut (just
>> type the shortcut you want, for example alt+M)
>> 5. Create a new tiddler tagged $:/tags/Keyboard/Shortcut
>> <#m_-4584092567572515247_CAJu7H0apAFb-+hJnFPhta0Ewp=WgyXc1jTf=jzDW8Kiei=5dZQ@mail.gmail.com_%24%3A%2Ftags%2FKeyboard%2FShortcut>
>> 6. Create a new field "key", which value = your shortcut (e.g. "alt+M")
>> 7. In the textarea, add your action:
>> <$navigator story="$:/StoryList" > <$action-sendmessage
>> $message="tm-new-tiddler" $param="meaningTemplate" title="This is newly
>> created tiddler" tags="OneTag [[Another Tag]]" text=<> MMM ">> /> 
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 1:53 PM 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
>> tiddl...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I think you do need to wrap it with a minimum of
>>>
>>> <$navigator story="$:/StoryList" >
>>> ...
>>> 
>>>
>>> In your original post, you said $:/tag/KeyboardShortcut, but it should
>>> be $:/tags/KeyboardShortcut
>>>
>>> I'm thinking that the error you're getting suggests something wrong in
>>> your template. Perhaps you could share that?
>>>
>>> Good luck!
>>>
>>> On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 11:05:04 AM UTC-7, Aidan Grey wrote:
>>>>
>>>> What Birthe said, and also because of the previously noted requirement
>>>> specified in how to create a keyboard shortcut, global section.
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Aug 3, 2019, 12:02 PM Birthe C,  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Mat,
>>>>>
>>>>> When you do not use a button, but want to create a new tiddler from
>>>>> keyboard shortcut, you are not creating the tiddler from inside the story
>>>>> riverat least that is what I am thinking.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Birthe
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Re: [tw5] Re: Shortcut issue

[Aidan Grey]

It was the story bit - just tested it, and that fixed it. I did have tagS
vs tag, that was just a typo here.


So here's my step by step to create a custom global shortcut, where you
don't need a button, or to be in a textarea, or anything. Just hit your
shortcut at anytime, and voila. Obviously, your action can be changed
easily to whatever you need.


1. Create tiddler named $:/config/ShortcutInfo/<>
2. Give a description in textarea, if you want
3. Go to Control Panel, then Keyboard Shortcuts
4. Select your new shortcut name, and give it a unique shortcut (just type
the shortcut you want, for example alt+M)
5. Create a new tiddler tagged $:/tags/Keyboard/Shortcut
<#%24%3A%2Ftags%2FKeyboard%2FShortcut>
6. Create a new field "key", which value = your shortcut (e.g. "alt+M")
7. In the textarea, add your action:
<$navigator story="$:/StoryList" > <$action-sendmessage
$message="tm-new-tiddler" $param="meaningTemplate" title="This is newly
created tiddler" tags="OneTag [[Another Tag]]" text=<> /> 


On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 1:53 PM 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I think you do need to wrap it with a minimum of
>
> <$navigator story="$:/StoryList" >
> ...
> 
>
> In your original post, you said $:/tag/KeyboardShortcut, but it should be
> $:/tags/KeyboardShortcut
>
> I'm thinking that the error you're getting suggests something wrong in
> your template. Perhaps you could share that?
>
> Good luck!
>
> On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 11:05:04 AM UTC-7, Aidan Grey wrote:
>>
>> What Birthe said, and also because of the previously noted requirement
>> specified in how to create a keyboard shortcut, global section.
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 3, 2019, 12:02 PM Birthe C,  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Mat,
>>>
>>> When you do not use a button, but want to create a new tiddler from
>>> keyboard shortcut, you are not creating the tiddler from inside the story
>>> riverat least that is what I am thinking.
>>>
>>>
>>> Birthe
>>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Shortcut issue

[Aidan Grey]

What Birthe said, and also because of the previously noted requirement
specified in how to create a keyboard shortcut, global section.

On Sat, Aug 3, 2019, 12:02 PM Birthe C,  wrote:

> Hi Mat,
>
> When you do not use a button, but want to create a new tiddler from
> keyboard shortcut, you are not creating the tiddler from inside the story
> riverat least that is what I am thinking.
>
>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Shortcut issue

[Aidan Grey]

I specifically DON"T want a button, so I was following the directions for a
global shortcut, which don't use buttons. As I noted, it works, but that
one weird error.

On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 11:10 AM Mat  wrote:

> Aidan, actionwidgets typically have to be inside a button. Try this:
>
> <$button>
> <$action-sendmessage
>  $message="tm-new-tiddler"
>  $param="meaningTemplate"
> />
> xxx
> 
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Re: [tw5] Re: Shortcut issue

[Aidan Grey]

Thanks Birthe,

I'll give that a shot and see if I can make it work.

On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 10:27 AM Birthe C  wrote:

> Hi Aidan,
>
> I looked in $:/core/ui/KeyboardShortcuts/new-tiddler, I think you could
> clone that and make a few changes
>
> That would look like this:
> <$navigator story="$:/StoryList" history="$:/HistoryList"
> openLinkFromInsideRiver={{$:/config/Navigation/openLinkFromInsideRiver}}
> openLinkFromOutsideRiver={{$:/config/Navigation/openLinkFromOutsideRiver}}
> relinkOnRename={{$:/config/RelinkOnRename}}>
> <$action-sendmessage
> $message="tm-new-tiddler"
> $param="meaningTemplate"
> />
> 
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Re: [tw5] Re: Shortcut issue

[Aidan Grey]

Heya Mario,

[[How to create keyboard shortcuts]] says that some actions require to be
wrapped within a $navigator  widget.
That is necessary for the following list of widgets and messages in order
to work if used within global keyboard shortcuts, and tm-new-tiddler is in
the list.

It didn't do anything at all before I put the <$navigator>  in, which is
needed to capture the global shortcuts.

Aidan

On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 6:46 AM BurningTreeC 
wrote:

> Hi Aidan, does it work if you provide a storylist to the navigator widget
> like
>
> <$navigator story="$:/StoryList">
>
> ?
>
> Hey all,
>
>>
>> I created a global shortcut that creates a new tiddler from a template.
>> It works, except that I get this error:
>>
>> Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'indexOf' of null
>>
>> I'm expecting to create a ton of tiddlers with the shortcut, so closing
>> the error every time defeats the purpose. What would be the fix for the
>> error?
>>
>> The action widget is tagged $:/tag/KeyboardShortcut, the key field is
>> "alt+M", and the widget text is:
>>
>> <$navigator>
>> <$action-sendmessage
>> $message="tm-new-tiddler"
>> $param="meaningTemplate"
>> />
>> 
>>
>> What did I miss?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Aidan
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[tw5] Shortcut issue

[Aidan Grey]

Hey all,

I created a global shortcut that creates a new tiddler from a template. It 
works, except that I get this error:

Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'indexOf' of null

I'm expecting to create a ton of tiddlers with the shortcut, so closing the 
error every time defeats the purpose. What would be the fix for the error?

The action widget is tagged $:/tag/KeyboardShortcut, the key field is 
"alt+M", and the widget text is:

<$navigator>
<$action-sendmessage 
$message="tm-new-tiddler" 
$param="meaningTemplate"
/>


What did I miss?

Thanks,
Aidan

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Re: [tw5] Re: Tiddler Commander Release 1.2.2 Minor release issue fixed

[Aidan Grey]

I just tested again, and manually deleted everything. When i imported brand
new, it worked fine. So there is something that isn't updating the older
version to have the right details in the $:/commander tiddler.

Again... It all works now, so no biggie.

On Thu, Aug 1, 2019, 3:08 PM Aidan Grey,  wrote:

> So i deleted the original plugin, by disabling then deleting the tiddler
> $:/plugins/kookma/commander. Is there something different i should do?
>
> I would not be surprised at all if I messed up.
>
> Ultimately, i think it's all fixed now, so no biggie.
>
> On Thu, Aug 1, 2019, 1:55 PM Mohammad,  wrote:
>
>> Aidan!
>>  There is a working version on
>>
>>
>>- Tiddlyspot demo page <http://commander.tiddlyspot.com/>
>>
>>
>> It works! I am afraid if you have changed some plugin tiddlers and after
>> reinstalling TW keep them and still you use those hacked one!
>>
>> To check the new plugin works Simply drag and drop
>> $:/plugins/kookma/commander into tiddlywiki.com
>> If it works (which I tested now and it works fine) then there something
>> wrong in your wiki!
>>
>> --Mohammad
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Re: [tw5] Re: Tiddler Commander Release 1.2.2 Minor release issue fixed

[Aidan Grey]

So i deleted the original plugin, by disabling then deleting the tiddler
$:/plugins/kookma/commander. Is there something different i should do?

I would not be surprised at all if I messed up.

Ultimately, i think it's all fixed now, so no biggie.

On Thu, Aug 1, 2019, 1:55 PM Mohammad,  wrote:

> Aidan!
>  There is a working version on
>
>
>- Tiddlyspot demo page 
>
>
> It works! I am afraid if you have changed some plugin tiddlers and after
> reinstalling TW keep them and still you use those hacked one!
>
> To check the new plugin works Simply drag and drop
> $:/plugins/kookma/commander into tiddlywiki.com
> If it works (which I tested now and it works fine) then there something
> wrong in your wiki!
>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Tiddler Commander Release 1.2.2 Minor release issue fixed

[Aidan Grey]

I dragged and dropped, but no luck.

Check the tiddlers... As given in $:/Commander, the search component says
...ui/search, but it's actually ...search/ui.

On Thu, Aug 1, 2019, 1:10 PM Mohammad,  wrote:

> If you drag and drop the plugin link it should work okay!
> Seems you are hacking and needs only part of it!
>
> Good luck
> Mohammad
>
> On Thursday, August 1, 2019 at 11:17:52 PM UTC+4:30, Aidan Grey wrote:
>>
>> Fixed it.
>>
>> Replaced those two missing tiddlers below with
>> {{$:/plugins/kookma/commander/search/ui}}
>> <>
>>
>> Apparently, you changed the UI names
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, August 1, 2019 at 12:39:18 PM UTC-6, Aidan Grey wrote:
>>>
>>> The problem seems to be that I'm missing these tiddlers:
>>>
>>> $:/plugins/kookma/commander/ui/search
>>> $:/plugins/kookma/commander/ui/tiddler-selection
>>>
>>> Actually, looks like I'm missing all ui tiddlers:
>>>
>>> $:/plugins/kookma/commander/title/ui
>>> $:/plugins/kookma/commander/title/uicomp/add-remove-chars
>>> $:/plugins/kookma/commander/title/uicomp/add-remove-prefix
>>> $:/plugins/kookma/commander/title/uicomp/add-remove-suffix
>>> $:/plugins/tesseract/suffix-lines/readme
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 1, 2019 at 12:18:11 PM UTC-6, Aidan Grey wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I went from tiddlyspot because i can't figure it how to get it off of
>>>> github.
>>>>
>>>> It says v 1.2.2, so I've got that bit right.
>>>>
>>>> Would it hep to just upload the tw for examination?
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Aug 1, 2019, 12:09 PM Mohammad,  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Aidan,
>>>>>  Have you installed it from tiddlyspot or GitHub?
>>>>> Would also check the version of installed plugin?
>>>>>
>>>>> Nothing in the UI has been changed.
>>>>> --Mohammad
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, August 1, 2019 at 10:21:14 PM UTC+4:30, Aidan Grey wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have deleted previous installs and reinstalled/imported the plugin.
>>>>>> Still no search or tiddler selection section as in previous versions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am I missing something? Does it work differently?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 31, 2019 at 1:08:27 AM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Announcement: Tiddler Commander Plugin*
>>>>>>> *Date: July 31, 2019*
>>>>>>> *Release: 1.2.2 stable*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Requirements: TW 5.1.19+ (5.1.20pre is recommended)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is a minor release. bug fixed!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What is Tiddler Commander?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tiddler Commander, in short *Commander* is a unique tool for batch
>>>>>>> operations on tiddlers. Commander has the below features
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>- Bulk tiddler creation/deletion
>>>>>>>- Title operation: add, remove prefixes and suffixes, also
>>>>>>>remove cahras form begining and end of title
>>>>>>>- Tag operation: add, remove, replace
>>>>>>>- Field operation: add, remove, set field value
>>>>>>>- *SNR*, search and replace in all fields including text, tags,
>>>>>>>title, and common fields
>>>>>>>- *Inspect*, to review and inspect tiddlers in one place, scroll
>>>>>>>among them and edit all fields (including common fields), tags, text 
>>>>>>> (title
>>>>>>>is an exception!)
>>>>>>>- Log, create logs of all operations
>>>>>>>- Search, *save and load* any combination of filter search
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1.2.2 – issues fixed
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 31st July 2019
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>- [FIXED] the tag operation issue has beed fixed
>>>>>>>- [FIXED] filters for replace tag, add-remove tag have been
>>>>>>>updated. Instead of [<__oldTag__>tagging]] the new
>>>>>>>tag<__oldTag__>

Re: [tw5] Re: Tiddler Commander Release 1.2.2 Minor release issue fixed

[Aidan Grey]

Fixed it.

Replaced those two missing tiddlers below with 
{{$:/plugins/kookma/commander/search/ui}}
<>

Apparently, you changed the UI names




On Thursday, August 1, 2019 at 12:39:18 PM UTC-6, Aidan Grey wrote:
>
> The problem seems to be that I'm missing these tiddlers:
>
> $:/plugins/kookma/commander/ui/search
> $:/plugins/kookma/commander/ui/tiddler-selection
>
> Actually, looks like I'm missing all ui tiddlers:
>
> $:/plugins/kookma/commander/title/ui
> $:/plugins/kookma/commander/title/uicomp/add-remove-chars
> $:/plugins/kookma/commander/title/uicomp/add-remove-prefix
> $:/plugins/kookma/commander/title/uicomp/add-remove-suffix
> $:/plugins/tesseract/suffix-lines/readme
>
> On Thursday, August 1, 2019 at 12:18:11 PM UTC-6, Aidan Grey wrote:
>>
>> I went from tiddlyspot because i can't figure it how to get it off of 
>> github.
>>
>> It says v 1.2.2, so I've got that bit right.
>>
>> Would it hep to just upload the tw for examination?
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 1, 2019, 12:09 PM Mohammad,  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Aidan,
>>>  Have you installed it from tiddlyspot or GitHub?
>>> Would also check the version of installed plugin?
>>>
>>> Nothing in the UI has been changed.
>>> --Mohammad
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 1, 2019 at 10:21:14 PM UTC+4:30, Aidan Grey wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I have deleted previous installs and reinstalled/imported the plugin. 
>>>> Still no search or tiddler selection section as in previous versions.
>>>>
>>>> Am I missing something? Does it work differently?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, July 31, 2019 at 1:08:27 AM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> *Announcement: Tiddler Commander Plugin*
>>>>> *Date: July 31, 2019*
>>>>> *Release: 1.2.2 stable*
>>>>>
>>>>> Requirements: TW 5.1.19+ (5.1.20pre is recommended)
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a minor release. bug fixed!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What is Tiddler Commander?
>>>>>
>>>>> Tiddler Commander, in short *Commander* is a unique tool for batch 
>>>>> operations on tiddlers. Commander has the below features
>>>>>
>>>>>- Bulk tiddler creation/deletion
>>>>>- Title operation: add, remove prefixes and suffixes, also remove 
>>>>>cahras form begining and end of title
>>>>>- Tag operation: add, remove, replace
>>>>>- Field operation: add, remove, set field value
>>>>>- *SNR*, search and replace in all fields including text, tags, 
>>>>>title, and common fields
>>>>>- *Inspect*, to review and inspect tiddlers in one place, scroll 
>>>>>among them and edit all fields (including common fields), tags, text 
>>>>> (title 
>>>>>is an exception!)
>>>>>- Log, create logs of all operations
>>>>>- Search, *save and load* any combination of filter search
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 1.2.2 – issues fixed
>>>>>
>>>>> 31st July 2019
>>>>>
>>>>>- [FIXED] the tag operation issue has beed fixed
>>>>>- [FIXED] filters for replace tag, add-remove tag have been 
>>>>>updated. Instead of [<__oldTag__>tagging]] the new tag<__oldTag__> has 
>>>>>been used. Seems there is bugs with old filter.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>> Project code and demo
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>- GitHub demo page <https://github.com/kookma/TW-Commander> *(does 
>>>>>not work)*
>>>>>- Tiddlyspot demo page <http://commander.tiddlyspot.com/>
>>>>>- GitHub code page <https://github.com/kookma/TW-Commander>
>>>>>
>>>>> Tiddler Commander at Tiddlywiki Google forum
>>>>>
>>>>>- Initial announcement 
>>>>><https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/BxJsWuae-Uc/JapAx4mtBgAJ>
>>>>>- Beta releases 
>>>>><https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/w9Bv-WulKw8/CYf9D4H6BgAJ>
>>>>>- Release candidate 
>>>>><https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/Zw3F3iRtggA/qX2uWiBJBgAJ>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best wishes
>>>>> Mohammad
>>>>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Tiddler Commander Release 1.2.2 Minor release issue fixed

[Aidan Grey]

The problem seems to be that I'm missing these tiddlers:

$:/plugins/kookma/commander/ui/search
$:/plugins/kookma/commander/ui/tiddler-selection

Actually, looks like I'm missing all ui tiddlers:

$:/plugins/kookma/commander/title/ui 

$:/plugins/kookma/commander/title/uicomp/add-remove-chars 

$:/plugins/kookma/commander/title/uicomp/add-remove-prefix 

$:/plugins/kookma/commander/title/uicomp/add-remove-suffix 

$:/plugins/tesseract/suffix-lines/readme 


On Thursday, August 1, 2019 at 12:18:11 PM UTC-6, Aidan Grey wrote:
>
> I went from tiddlyspot because i can't figure it how to get it off of 
> github.
>
> It says v 1.2.2, so I've got that bit right.
>
> Would it hep to just upload the tw for examination?
>
> On Thu, Aug 1, 2019, 12:09 PM Mohammad,  
> wrote:
>
>> Aidan,
>>  Have you installed it from tiddlyspot or GitHub?
>> Would also check the version of installed plugin?
>>
>> Nothing in the UI has been changed.
>> --Mohammad
>>
>> On Thursday, August 1, 2019 at 10:21:14 PM UTC+4:30, Aidan Grey wrote:
>>>
>>> I have deleted previous installs and reinstalled/imported the plugin. 
>>> Still no search or tiddler selection section as in previous versions.
>>>
>>> Am I missing something? Does it work differently?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, July 31, 2019 at 1:08:27 AM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>>>>
>>>> *Announcement: Tiddler Commander Plugin*
>>>> *Date: July 31, 2019*
>>>> *Release: 1.2.2 stable*
>>>>
>>>> Requirements: TW 5.1.19+ (5.1.20pre is recommended)
>>>>
>>>> This is a minor release. bug fixed!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What is Tiddler Commander?
>>>>
>>>> Tiddler Commander, in short *Commander* is a unique tool for batch 
>>>> operations on tiddlers. Commander has the below features
>>>>
>>>>- Bulk tiddler creation/deletion
>>>>- Title operation: add, remove prefixes and suffixes, also remove 
>>>>cahras form begining and end of title
>>>>- Tag operation: add, remove, replace
>>>>- Field operation: add, remove, set field value
>>>>- *SNR*, search and replace in all fields including text, tags, 
>>>>title, and common fields
>>>>- *Inspect*, to review and inspect tiddlers in one place, scroll 
>>>>among them and edit all fields (including common fields), tags, text 
>>>> (title 
>>>>is an exception!)
>>>>- Log, create logs of all operations
>>>>- Search, *save and load* any combination of filter search
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1.2.2 – issues fixed
>>>>
>>>> 31st July 2019
>>>>
>>>>- [FIXED] the tag operation issue has beed fixed
>>>>- [FIXED] filters for replace tag, add-remove tag have been 
>>>>updated. Instead of [<__oldTag__>tagging]] the new tag<__oldTag__> has 
>>>>been used. Seems there is bugs with old filter.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>> Project code and demo
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>- GitHub demo page <https://github.com/kookma/TW-Commander> *(does 
>>>>not work)*
>>>>- Tiddlyspot demo page <http://commander.tiddlyspot.com/>
>>>>- GitHub code page <https://github.com/kookma/TW-Commander>
>>>>
>>>> Tiddler Commander at Tiddlywiki Google forum
>>>>
>>>>- Initial announcement 
>>>><https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/BxJsWuae-Uc/JapAx4mtBgAJ>
>>>>- Beta releases 
>>>><https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/w9Bv-WulKw8/CYf9D4H6BgAJ>
>>>>- Release candidate 
>>>><https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/Zw3F3iRtggA/qX2uWiBJBgAJ>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes
>>>> Mohammad
>>>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Tiddler Commander Release 1.2.2 Minor release issue fixed

[Aidan Grey]

I went from tiddlyspot because i can't figure it how to get it off of
github.

It says v 1.2.2, so I've got that bit right.

Would it hep to just upload the tw for examination?

On Thu, Aug 1, 2019, 12:09 PM Mohammad,  wrote:

> Aidan,
>  Have you installed it from tiddlyspot or GitHub?
> Would also check the version of installed plugin?
>
> Nothing in the UI has been changed.
> --Mohammad
>
> On Thursday, August 1, 2019 at 10:21:14 PM UTC+4:30, Aidan Grey wrote:
>>
>> I have deleted previous installs and reinstalled/imported the plugin.
>> Still no search or tiddler selection section as in previous versions.
>>
>> Am I missing something? Does it work differently?
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 31, 2019 at 1:08:27 AM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>>>
>>> *Announcement: Tiddler Commander Plugin*
>>> *Date: July 31, 2019*
>>> *Release: 1.2.2 stable*
>>>
>>> Requirements: TW 5.1.19+ (5.1.20pre is recommended)
>>>
>>> This is a minor release. bug fixed!
>>>
>>>
>>> What is Tiddler Commander?
>>>
>>> Tiddler Commander, in short *Commander* is a unique tool for batch
>>> operations on tiddlers. Commander has the below features
>>>
>>>- Bulk tiddler creation/deletion
>>>- Title operation: add, remove prefixes and suffixes, also remove
>>>cahras form begining and end of title
>>>- Tag operation: add, remove, replace
>>>- Field operation: add, remove, set field value
>>>- *SNR*, search and replace in all fields including text, tags,
>>>title, and common fields
>>>- *Inspect*, to review and inspect tiddlers in one place, scroll
>>>among them and edit all fields (including common fields), tags, text 
>>> (title
>>>is an exception!)
>>>- Log, create logs of all operations
>>>- Search, *save and load* any combination of filter search
>>>
>>>
>>> 1.2.2 – issues fixed
>>>
>>> 31st July 2019
>>>
>>>- [FIXED] the tag operation issue has beed fixed
>>>- [FIXED] filters for replace tag, add-remove tag have been updated.
>>>Instead of [<__oldTag__>tagging]] the new tag<__oldTag__> has been
>>>used. Seems there is bugs with old filter.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Project code and demo
>>>
>>>
>>>- GitHub demo page <https://github.com/kookma/TW-Commander> *(does
>>>not work)*
>>>- Tiddlyspot demo page <http://commander.tiddlyspot.com/>
>>>- GitHub code page <https://github.com/kookma/TW-Commander>
>>>
>>> Tiddler Commander at Tiddlywiki Google forum
>>>
>>>- Initial announcement
>>><https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/BxJsWuae-Uc/JapAx4mtBgAJ>
>>>- Beta releases
>>><https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/w9Bv-WulKw8/CYf9D4H6BgAJ>
>>>- Release candidate
>>><https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/Zw3F3iRtggA/qX2uWiBJBgAJ>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> Mohammad
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[tw5] Re: Tiddler Commander Release 1.2.2 Minor release issue fixed

[Aidan Grey]

I have deleted previous installs and reinstalled/imported the plugin. Still 
no search or tiddler selection section as in previous versions.

Am I missing something? Does it work differently?


On Wednesday, July 31, 2019 at 1:08:27 AM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>
> *Announcement: Tiddler Commander Plugin*
> *Date: July 31, 2019*
> *Release: 1.2.2 stable*
>
> Requirements: TW 5.1.19+ (5.1.20pre is recommended)
>
> This is a minor release. bug fixed!
>
>
> What is Tiddler Commander?
>
> Tiddler Commander, in short *Commander* is a unique tool for batch 
> operations on tiddlers. Commander has the below features
>
>- Bulk tiddler creation/deletion
>- Title operation: add, remove prefixes and suffixes, also remove 
>cahras form begining and end of title
>- Tag operation: add, remove, replace
>- Field operation: add, remove, set field value
>- *SNR*, search and replace in all fields including text, tags, title, 
>and common fields
>- *Inspect*, to review and inspect tiddlers in one place, scroll among 
>them and edit all fields (including common fields), tags, text (title is 
> an 
>exception!)
>- Log, create logs of all operations
>- Search, *save and load* any combination of filter search
>
>
> 1.2.2 – issues fixed
>
> 31st July 2019
>
>- [FIXED] the tag operation issue has beed fixed
>- [FIXED] filters for replace tag, add-remove tag have been updated. 
>Instead of [<__oldTag__>tagging]] the new tag<__oldTag__> has been 
>used. Seems there is bugs with old filter.
>
>
>  
> Project code and demo
>
>
>- GitHub demo page  *(does not 
>work)*
>- Tiddlyspot demo page 
>- GitHub code page 
>
> Tiddler Commander at Tiddlywiki Google forum
>
>- Initial announcement 
>
>- Beta releases 
>
>- Release candidate 
>
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
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Re: [tw5] Re: SVG - How do I fix this?

[Aidan Grey]

My experience is that though it says character, you can use however many
characters you want. So prefixing an *, is easy - just select the area you
want deeper and click the button again .

Only issue i have is that a space is added, and that should get removed.

I also modified the linkify button to apply prefix/suffix to every line in
selection. A single link is a trivial instance.



On Mon, Jul 29, 2019, 2:17 AM TonyM,  wrote:

> An observation
>
> It would be great if prefixing lines could add or remove one character. So
> you highlight all or some lines and add or remove one character at a time.
>
> *
> *
> **
> **
> *
> *
>
> Regards
> Tony
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Re: [tw5] Re: SVG - How do I fix this?

[Aidan Grey]

You are awesome Riz! Thanks!!

On Sat, Jul 27, 2019 at 11:31 PM Riz  wrote:

> Hi again Aidan
>
> Sorry I missed the second part of your question.
> To start off, that is an excellent idea you put forward. I simply used to
> switch to text type when I need multiple line breaks, for sake of sheer
> laziness. What you propose is the solution, now I see it.
>
> I can see where you went wrong. The wrap-lines function in TW-5 is a
> misnomer. It actually wraps the entire selection, and adds the prefix and
> suffix only once to the selection. Here is the difference between wrap-line
> and wrap-selection function in TW5.
>
> Wrap-selection:: If you select a part of a line(for eg: a couple of lines
> in a sentence), wrap selection will add suffix and prefix to those few
> words only. This is used in toolbar buttons like bold, italics etc
> Wrap-lines:: Even if you select a part of a line, it will wrap the entire
> line/lines and add suffix and prefix to the whole selection. That is to
> say, you cannot end selection in the middle of a line when you are using
> this function. This is used in quote-blocks and code-blocks.
>
> In short, wrap-lines is not wrap-each-line, but wrap-all-lines-once.
>
> Now since I want the functionality you proposed, I put together a plugin
> to do exactly what you want. It is a new text-edit-operation called
> suffix-lines. It is similar to prefix-lines, but adds suffix. If you have
> multiple lines in your selection, suffix will be added to each of those
> lines. Similar to prefix-lines, it also has a "count" parameter. So if you
> set the count as 2 or more, it will duplicate the suffix characters that
> many times.
>
> For example, here is the text for editor toolbar button that will add 2
> linebreaks at the end of each lines in selection.
>
> <$action-sendmessage
> $message="tm-edit-text-operation"
> $param="suffix-lines"
> character=""
> count="2"
> />
>
>
> There is one functionality I left out in comparison to prefix-lines.
> Prefix lines will remove the prefix character if it is already present in
> the selection. It is convienient to have it, but I hardly ever use it, so I
> have not bothered.
>
> I am attaching the plugin along with a couple of other tiddlers which will
> actually add the editor toolbar button to add line-breaks. The toolbar
> button is not a part of plugin. The plugin only provides suffix-lines.js
> which you may use in any number of editor toolbar buttons.
>
> sincerely
> Riz
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[tw5] Re: Tiddler Commander Release 1.2.1: Major release

[Aidan Grey]

Something is wrong here - I have 1.2.1, but there's no search/tiddler 
select functionality anymore.

Am I missing something? 



On Thursday, July 25, 2019 at 2:41:08 PM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>
> *Announcement: Tiddler Commander Plugin*
> *Date: July 26, 2019*
> *Release: 1.2.0 stable*
>
> Requirements: TW 5.1.19+ (5.1.20pre is recommended)
>
> This is a major release. Commander now has a button on sidebar and can be 
> in access very simply.
>
>
> What is Tiddler Commander?
>
> Tiddler Commander, in short *Commander* is a unique tool for batch 
> operations on tiddlers. Commander has the below features
>
>- Bulk tiddler creation/deletion
>- Title operation: add, remove prefixes and suffixes, also remove 
>cahras form begining and end of title
>- Tag operation: add, remove, replace
>- Field operation: add, remove, set field value
>- *SNR*, search and replace in all fields including text, tags, title, 
>and common fields
>- *Inspect*, to review and inspect tiddlers in one place, scroll among 
>them and edit all fields (including common fields), tags, text (title is 
> an 
>exception!)
>- Log, create logs of all operations
>- Search, *save and load* any combination of filter search
>
>
> 1.2.0 – new release
>
> 24th July 2019
>
>- [NEW] button added to page control
>- [NEW] add new filter for delete TEMP and STATE
>- [FIXED] theorder of tabs in Commander ui
>- [FIXED] the creator name from templates used for creation of new 
>tiddlers are removed
>- [FIXED] correct search UI buttons order
>- [FIXED] improved documentation, new sections have been added
>- [FIXED] the tab colors removed
>
>
> Due to restriction on GitHub there is a demo on tiddlyspot (TW 5.1.19)
>
> Please kindly send your feedback here or on code page
>
> Project code and demo
>
>
>- GitHub demo page  *(does not 
>work)*
>- Tiddlyspot demo page 
>- GitHub code page 
>
> Tiddler Commander at Tiddlywiki Google forum
>
>- Initial announcement 
>
>- Beta releases 
>
>- Release candidate 
>
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
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[tw5] SVG - How do I fix this?

[Aidan Grey]

I'm sorry to keep bugging you all, but at least I'm trying to help where I 
can too :)

So I created a new button for the editor toolbar, and I finally got it to 
work. (just an FYI - I've done other buttons, just all without svg icons)

two issues: 

- note that the button with the icon () is not the same size as the 
others - how do I fix that? Is there are site that explains the svg 
adjustment process?

- originally, I was trying to use "wrap-lines", with an empty prefix and 
the suffix="". I modelled on list-bullet, but all it did was wrap the 
selection instead of each line. So, instead, I just made it a replace, so 
it will insert a   wherever the cursor is. Still not ideal but better 
than nothing.

All I can think to do is to put multiple "prefix-line"s, and do it 4 times, 
a character at a time. IS there a better way than this?



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Re: [tw5] Re: Background Image - what am I doing wrong?

[Aidan Grey]

Oy. Yes, that was it. Thanks man

On Sat, Jul 27, 2019, 11:45 AM 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki, <
tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> You don't need to wrap the style in style tags when used in a stylesheet.
> I think you'll find it works once you remove those.
>
> On Saturday, July 27, 2019 at 10:02:49 AM UTC-7, Aidan Grey wrote:
>>
>> I ALMOST have it working, but only when I'm in edit mode. What?!
>>
>> - I Imported an image for a background on tiddlers. I did nothing to it,
>> it's called "old-parchment.jpg" and type is "image/jpeg". no tags or
>> anything.
>> - I created tidBkgImg tagged with $:/tags/Stylesheet, no type, and this
>> code:
>>
>> 
>> .tc-tiddler-frame { background-image: url(<<datauri
>> "old-parchment.jpg">>); }
>> 
>>
>> Background only shows up if I have a tiddler - any tiddler, in edit mode,
>> and then it shows for all tiddlers.  As soon as I leave edit mode, the
>> image disappears, again for all tiddlers.
>>
>> I can't find another class to use that makes a difference, and I can't
>> find the difference between edit and view mode that will affect the frame.
>>
>> What am I doing wrong this time?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Aidan
>>
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[tw5] Background Image - what am I doing wrong?

[Aidan Grey]

I ALMOST have it working, but only when I'm in edit mode. What?!

- I Imported an image for a background on tiddlers. I did nothing to it, 
it's called "old-parchment.jpg" and type is "image/jpeg". no tags or 
anything.
- I created tidBkgImg tagged with $:/tags/Stylesheet, no type, and this 
code:


.tc-tiddler-frame { background-image: url(<>); 
}


Background only shows up if I have a tiddler - any tiddler, in edit mode, 
and then it shows for all tiddlers.  As soon as I leave edit mode, the 
image disappears, again for all tiddlers.

I can't find another class to use that makes a difference, and I can't find 
the difference between edit and view mode that will affect the frame.

What am I doing wrong this time?

Thanks,
Aidan

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Re: [tw5] Custom CSS for tiddler

[Aidan Grey]

if you want the tag space, just nothing there, on the specific tiddler, add:

 .tc-tags-wrapper {  visibility: hidden;} 

If you want that space to be gone:

 .tc-tags-wrapper {  display: none;} 


On Sat, Jul 27, 2019 at 8:59 AM MagoArcade  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I've perused the documentation here
> but
> can't understand/implement it
>
> I'm basically trying to hide the tags at the top of a specific tiddler.
> The way I was trying to do this was via implementing a custom css for the
> tags container thus:
>
> .tc-tags-wrapper {
>   visibility: hidden;
> }
>
> This works if I do this via inspect. However, How do I implement his css
> change in the tiddler itself. I'd rather do that in the tiddler rather than
> via editing any global style sheets etc.
>
> thanks
>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Consistent Style across all Icons

[Aidan Grey]

That was it guys! Thanks!!

On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 1:38 PM Mohammad  wrote:

> See the note by Brithe. He gave the solution.
> open your svg tiddler and remove the type
>
> On Friday, July 26, 2019 at 10:40:06 PM UTC+4:30, Aidan Grey wrote:
>>
>> So, I want them all to have the same styling. Either mine, or built in.
>> Icon style is a different issue, and if I can get the CSS/Appearance to be
>> the same, then I can sort out the icons myself (I've got a pro membership
>> to FA, so...)
>>
>> Attached is the tiddler with my svg icon. Here's how I'm calling it:
>> <$button class="tc-btn-invisible tc-image-button">[img[six]]
>>
>> This should, theoretically, give me exactly the same styling as the
>> built-in buttons.  But it doesn't - nothing at all is visible. I've also
>> tried transclusion as {{six}}, also no good.
>>
>>
>> As far as replacing existing buttons goes: on $:/core/images/info-button,
>> I replaced the existing def with {{six}}, which worked, but none of the
>> usual styling applied. Instead of muted colors and hover differences like
>> the built in buttons, it's just black, no change on hover.
>>
>>
>> What I am doing wrong?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, July 25, 2019 at 12:57:50 PM UTC-6, Mat wrote:
>>>
>>> What do you mean with consistent? It is trivial to apply the same CSS to
>>> them but all(?) core icons are custom drawn by Jeremy so your icons will
>>> not look the same unless his personal drawing style is imitated.
>>>
>>> You mention that you can't figure out how to replace existing icons with
>>> your own; this may be a better route if you want consistency. You simply
>>> open the icons and replace their code with your own. At least that is the
>>> first step. There will probably be some tweaking with sizes.
>>>
>>> BTW, fellow *tiddleur* morosanue very recently unleashed all(?) the
>>> Font Awesome icons but tweaked to suit TW. These probably use a consistend
>>> style.
>>>
>>> <:-)
>>>
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[tw5] Re: Consistent Style across all Icons

[Aidan Grey]

So, I want them all to have the same styling. Either mine, or built in. 
Icon style is a different issue, and if I can get the CSS/Appearance to be 
the same, then I can sort out the icons myself (I've got a pro membership 
to FA, so...)

Attached is the tiddler with my svg icon. Here's how I'm calling it: 
<$button class="tc-btn-invisible tc-image-button">[img[six]]

This should, theoretically, give me exactly the same styling as the 
built-in buttons.  But it doesn't - nothing at all is visible. I've also 
tried transclusion as {{six}}, also no good.


As far as replacing existing buttons goes: on $:/core/images/info-button, I 
replaced the existing def with {{six}}, which worked, but none of the usual 
styling applied. Instead of muted colors and hover differences like the 
built in buttons, it's just black, no change on hover.


What I am doing wrong?



On Thursday, July 25, 2019 at 12:57:50 PM UTC-6, Mat wrote:
>
> What do you mean with consistent? It is trivial to apply the same CSS to 
> them but all(?) core icons are custom drawn by Jeremy so your icons will 
> not look the same unless his personal drawing style is imitated.
>
> You mention that you can't figure out how to replace existing icons with 
> your own; this may be a better route if you want consistency. You simply 
> open the icons and replace their code with your own. At least that is the 
> first step. There will probably be some tweaking with sizes. 
>
> BTW, fellow *tiddleur* morosanue very recently unleashed all(?) the Font 
> Awesome icons but tweaked to suit TW. These probably use a consistend style.
>
> <:-)
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[tw5] Consistent Style across all Icons

[Aidan Grey]

I need a consistent style across my icons on the editor toolbars, sidebar, 
etc. I've created my own buttons, and have no problem styling them, but I 
need them to match the built-in icons/buttons.

I've tried using my own, with tc-image-button class, but they don't look 
the same.

Can't figure out how to replace the existing icons with my own either.

Surely there's a way to make them consistent across the board one way or 
another, and do styling.

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[tw5] Re: Fully numbered TOC

[Aidan Grey]

It works there.

There aren't any tiddlers tagged TOC, so you've got to make them and tag 
(or parentify, for tocP) them as normal before you'll see the TOC. 



[image: dictTest.PNG]


On Thursday, July 25, 2019 at 9:49:29 AM UTC-6, Ste Wilson wrote:
>
> I'm sure I'm being slow but do I just copy that into a tidler? Just did 
> that on tiddlywiki.com and nothing happened.. 

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[tw5] Fully numbered TOC

[Aidan Grey]

Heya all,

I posted this before, but wanted to repost / clarify. My weird typo 
accident trick works no matter whether you have tocP or not:


<>



<>


Don't ask me why, but happy it does regardless.

Aidan

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[tw5] Re: CSS / Format question

[Aidan Grey]

Thank you - that was the key I was missing for some unknown reason. I was 
able to implement my own version, without all the extra. I'm giving away 
Zaphod's secrets here.

The key for what I wanted was the width and margin ( minus 
).  The margin is the gap between the edge of the story 
river and the visible background on the sidebar.

tiddler sbShow with:

.tc-sidebar-scrollable {
width:350px;
margin:50px 0 0 0;
border-radius: 10px 0 0 0;
background-color: green;
}


tiddler sbHide with:

.tc-sidebar-scrollable {
background-color: transparent;
}


and then add the transclude lines to $:/core/ui/TopBar/menu between the 
button open and close tags. 

<$reveal state="$:/state/sidebar" type="nomatch" text="no">
<$button set="$:/state/sidebar" setTo="no" 
tooltip={{$:/language/Buttons/HideSideBar/Hint}} 
aria-label={{$:/language/Buttons/HideSideBar/Caption}} 
class="tc-btn-invisible">{{$:/core/images/chevron-right}}
<$transclude tiddler="sbShow"/>


<$reveal state="$:/state/sidebar" type="match" text="no">
<$button set="$:/state/sidebar" setTo="yes" 
tooltip={{$:/language/Buttons/ShowSideBar/Hint}} 
aria-label={{$:/language/Buttons/ShowSideBar/Caption}} 
class="tc-btn-invisible">{{$:/core/images/chevron-left}}
<$transclude tiddler="sbHide"/>






On Tuesday, July 23, 2019 at 9:15:31 AM UTC-6, Birthe C wrote:
>
> http://zaphod2016.tiddlyspot.com/#%24%3A%2Fcore%2Fui%2FTopBar%2Fmenu
> Used to change the styles.
>
>
> Birthe
>

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[tw5] Re: Dumb Question because My Brain's Shut Down

[Aidan Grey]

https://thenounproject.com/search/?q=faith=556626

I have no idea why they call it "faith", but that's the image.


On Tuesday, July 23, 2019 at 8:46:33 AM UTC-6, PMario wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Can you post a link to the "six.svg" image? or post the image itself. 
>
> -m
>

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[tw5] Re: Dumb Question because My Brain's Shut Down

[Aidan Grey]

LOL that was  a type - I didn't delete everything from my test with the 
.tc-editor-toolbar...

On Tuesday, July 23, 2019 at 8:42:16 AM UTC-6, Mat wrote:
>
>
>> ..tc-image-info-button:hover {
>> background-color: #F9DC39;
>> }
>>
>>
>>
> At least one problem is the ".." at the start there.
>
> <:-) 
>

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[tw5] Re: CSS / Format question

[Aidan Grey]

I had a breakthrough. It's not completely set yet (more below), but this 
works:

.tc-sidebar-scrollable {
width: 350px;
margin: 50px 0px 0px 0px;
border-radius: 10px 0px;
background-color: #C8EBC3;
}


The scrollbar on the more tab never reveals the background, and the edges 
look correct. 

Only 1 thing - when the sidebar is collapsed, you can still see the 
background. If I can figure out what class applies when the sidebar is 
closed, then I could just remove the background color until it's unhidden 
again.



On Monday, July 22, 2019 at 9:02:01 PM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Added to TW-Scripts.
>
> On Monday, July 22, 2019 at 10:33:53 PM UTC+4:30, Mat wrote:
>>
>> Could maybe the whole tc-sidebar-scrollable be colored? This includes the 
>> area above the title also?
>>
>> If you insist on a background colored area above it, then you can still 
>> color the whole tc-sidebar-scrollable but add at border at top with the 
>> background color, say "border:33px solid black" and then raise up the 
>> tc-sidebar-*header* with "margin-top:-33px".
>>
>> <:-)
>>
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Dumb Question because My Brain's Shut Down

[Aidan Grey]

Note, because i checked: if i leave in the .tc_edit_toolbar as
recommended NONE of my changes show up. Without, at least i get the
colors.

On Tue, Jul 23, 2019, 8:15 AM Aidan Grey,  wrote:

> Let me get more precise. You guys have continuously repeated what I
> already said I knew how to do about 5 times now.
>
> This is the icon I want to replace the info button icon with:
>
>
> [image: the icon six to use.PNG]
>
>
> This is where I replaced the icon  in the core/ui/buttons/info
>
>
>
> [image: Change on core-ui-buttons-info.PNG]
>
>
>
> And this is what I get
>
> [image: what I get.PNG]
>
>
> What's wrong with it:
> - the icon isn't replaced (and I intend a global replacement, why is why
> I'm only selecting .tc-image-info-button)
> - the formatting appears WITHIN the existing button, not instead of it
> - for some reason, the code doesn't set the foreground color correctly
> - which is weird, because on custom buttons, it works perfectly.
> - as I've said repeatedly, it's the built-in icons that are giving me
> issues.
>
> The CSS:
>
> .tc-image-info-button {
> width: 35px;
> height: 35px;
> line-height: 30px;
> border-radius: 10px;
> border: 4px solid #1B3518;
> overflow: hidden;
> background-color: #7bc072;
> color: black;
> display:inline-block;
> cursor:pointer;
> font-family: uglyquaregular;
> font-size: 20px;
> font-weight:bold;
> padding: 0px 3px;
> text-align: center;
> vertical-align: middle;
> }
>
> ..tc-image-info-button:hover {
> background-color: #F9DC39;
> }
>
>
>
> On Monday, July 22, 2019 at 11:32:01 PM UTC-6, bimlas wrote:
>>
>> Aidan,
>>
>> You can use the SVG's classname to select them directly:
>>
>> [image: vivaldi_2019-07-23_07-29-07.png]
>>
>> Some of the icons has a dedicated setting in $:/ControlPanel -> Apperance
>> -> Palette -> Show Editor -> toolbar-*-button
>> (toolbar-cancel-button, toolbar-close-button, ...).
>>
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[tw5] Re: Dumb Question because My Brain's Shut Down

[Aidan Grey]

Let me get more precise. You guys have continuously repeated what I already 
said I knew how to do about 5 times now.

This is the icon I want to replace the info button icon with:


[image: the icon six to use.PNG]


This is where I replaced the icon  in the core/ui/buttons/info



[image: Change on core-ui-buttons-info.PNG]



And this is what I get

[image: what I get.PNG]


What's wrong with it:
- the icon isn't replaced (and I intend a global replacement, why is why 
I'm only selecting .tc-image-info-button)
- the formatting appears WITHIN the existing button, not instead of it
- for some reason, the code doesn't set the foreground color correctly
- which is weird, because on custom buttons, it works perfectly.
- as I've said repeatedly, it's the built-in icons that are giving me 
issues.

The CSS:

.tc-image-info-button {
width: 35px;
height: 35px;
line-height: 30px;
border-radius: 10px;
border: 4px solid #1B3518; 
overflow: hidden;
background-color: #7bc072;
color: black; 
display:inline-block;
cursor:pointer;
font-family: uglyquaregular;
font-size: 20px;
font-weight:bold;
padding: 0px 3px;
text-align: center;
vertical-align: middle;
}

..tc-image-info-button:hover {
background-color: #F9DC39;
}



On Monday, July 22, 2019 at 11:32:01 PM UTC-6, bimlas wrote:
>
> Aidan,
>
> You can use the SVG's classname to select them directly:
>
> [image: vivaldi_2019-07-23_07-29-07.png]
>
> Some of the icons has a dedicated setting in $:/ControlPanel -> Apperance 
> -> Palette -> Show Editor -> toolbar-*-button 
> (toolbar-cancel-button, toolbar-close-button, ...).
>

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Re: [tw5] Dumb Question because My Brain's Shut Down

[Aidan Grey]

I got that. What do I do for the edit icon? Or the open all tiddlers icon?
Create a button from scratch - I got it. Interact with built in icons? No
clue. And what I’ve tried isn’t working.

On Monday, July 22, 2019, Mat  wrote:

> Simplified example using only a color:
>
> <$button class="mycolor">
> adf
> 
>
> 
> .mycolor {background:red}
> .mycolor:hover {background:yellow}
> 
>
> <:-)
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Re: [tw5] Re: Dumb Question because My Brain's Shut Down

[Aidan Grey]

That I know. It's dealing with the built-ins that has me confused. I know
that the class on the edit image is tc-image-edit, but after that, not
sure what I need to do. Do I just replace the image on the tiddler and then
add a bit of css on .tc-image-edit:hover?



On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 7:54 PM Mat  wrote:

> If the change is to take place on *click* then just use the revealwidget
> (see Accordion/slider in docs)
>
> But you can do it on hover with CSS also. I'm not sure what it is you
> don't know about how to proceed though. just target the class that you set
> in the button widget e.g <$button class="apple"> and .apple:hover
> {background:red;} the background can also be an image like so
> .
>
> <:-)
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