[time-nuts] Trimble SMT board

2012-06-25 Thread Erno Peres
Hi, anybody having some experience with this board.. I have the following problemafter power on the board it does not output any msg only if I use the TrimbleStudio SMT software..on my PC.. Is there any solution to use the board without the PC/software ??? Thanks a

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble SMT board

2012-06-25 Thread Azelio Boriani
It's easy: let it run with the power on, what else? What exactly do you mean: no PC and what instead of the PC? Trimble products generally use the TSIP protocol, not a human readable one like the NMEA. Yes, the NMEA isn't easy to read but usually you can figure out date, time, lat/lon and 3D fix

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble SMT board

2012-06-25 Thread Azelio Boriani
A quick look at the Trimble Resolution SMT GPS revealed that the TSIP packet 0x7A can manage the NMEA output: what sentences and their time interval so the TrimbleStudio must have that option. On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Azelio Boriani azelio.bori...@screen.itwrote: It's easy: let it run

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble SMT board

2012-06-25 Thread Erno Peres
Azelio, As I said NO any type of msg comes out from the boardonly When I use the TrimbleStudio SMT software which seems to me it sending some kind of initialization to the board. Rgds Ernie. -Original Message- From: Azelio Boriani azelio.bori...@screen.it To:

Re: [time-nuts] Vectron Type 229 Crystal Oscillator

2012-06-25 Thread GandalfG8
Oh My God..IT'S ALIVE !!! :-) - In a message dated 25/06/2012 01:14:25 GMT Daylight Time, gandal...@aol.com writes: Hi All I'd like to say thanks again to all who've offered advice and information on this one, either via the list or directly, and having now been

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble SMT board

2012-06-25 Thread Azelio Boriani
Yes, but what do you want to use instead of the PC? Nothing? A microprocessor board? A display? The Arduino? The SMT can run alone whitout nothing connected, except for the antenna, of course. Then you can use the PPS, otherwise it will be very strange to let a GPS run without nothing connected

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble SMT board

2012-06-25 Thread David J Taylor
Hi, anybody having some experience with this board.. I have the following problemafter power on the board it does not output any msg only if I use the TrimbleStudio SMT software..on my PC.. Is there any solution to use the board without the PC/software ??? Thanks a

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble SMT board

2012-06-25 Thread Erno Peres
Hi David, thanks a lot for the info, I have also the 1PPS output, but had the impression that it will also output TSIP or any other kind of MSG upon power-up... and you can configure the board as required of the need.it outputs according to the TrimbleStudio SW is TEP format but any

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble SMT board

2012-06-25 Thread David J Taylor
Hi David, thanks a lot for the info, I have also the 1PPS output, but had the impression that it will also output TSIP or any other kind of MSG upon power-up... and you can configure the board as required of the need.it outputs according to the TrimbleStudio SW is TEP format but any

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble SMT board

2012-06-25 Thread Michael Tharp
On 06/25/2012 09:37 AM, Erno Peres wrote: Hi David, thanks a lot for the info, I have also the 1PPS output, but had the impression that it will also output TSIP or any other kind of MSG upon power-up... and you can configure the board as required of the need.it outputs according to

Re: [time-nuts] Vectron Type 229 Crystal Oscillator

2012-06-25 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Probably best to let it run for a couple weeks before doing anything really serious with it. Bob -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of gandal...@aol.com Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 8:23 AM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject:

Re: [time-nuts] Vectron Type 229 Crystal Oscillator

2012-06-25 Thread GandalfG8
Hi Bob Initially I just wanted to confirm all was working, oscillator, oven, and EFC, and have put it to one side for now, but I agree it should run for at least a couple of weeks to settle down once it's powered more permanently. I've got a plot I made of another nice Vectron

Re: [time-nuts] Vectron Type 229 Crystal Oscillator

2012-06-25 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Letting it sit on the power supply should not damage to an OCXO (this one or any other). Having it baked in when you need it is a lot easier than waiting two weeks once you have the need :)... Some will stabilize to X.XXX pp(what ever) in fewer days than others. They all get better if you

Re: [time-nuts] Vectron Type 229 Crystal Oscillator

2012-06-25 Thread GandalfG8
I agree totally, but if you could see the current state of my test area you'd understand why I just wanted to run a few hours quick test to make sure it was ok and then get it out of the way for now:-) regards Nigel GM8PZR In a message dated 25/06/2012 17:39:53 GMT Daylight Time,

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble SMT board

2012-06-25 Thread Erno Peres
Hi David, I have chked vith TAC32 SW, 9600 Baud and Motorola binary code and it is working OK. even will initialize the SMT gps board when there is a power interruption and no any protocol comes out. Also chked with the Winoncore SW and it display data but not all.. and this SW does

[time-nuts] Trimble SMT board

2012-06-25 Thread Mark Sims
Most of the SMT boards on the market come configured for TEP protocol which is (somewhat) compatible with the Motorola receivers. You can use a program like TRIMBLEMON to configure it for TSIP and 9800,8,N,1 serial format. Once you do that, the latest version of Lady Heather will work with

Re: [time-nuts] Vectron Type 229 Crystal Oscillator

2012-06-25 Thread Don Latham
Thanks, Clint! Your essay rests in my database... Don C. Turner FWIW, I've re-crystalled a number of those 100 MHz-area '229 and similar Vectron oscillators and have had pretty good results and I thought that I'd make a comment or two. clip -- Neither the voice of authority nor the weight

Re: [time-nuts] Vectron Type 229 Crystal Oscillator

2012-06-25 Thread Dan Rae
I have a couple of Vectron 229-5657-1 OCXOs, nominal 80 MHz, that have a different pin out to that reported by Nigel. These have the SMA output and only a 24 V supply to pins 2 for + and 6 ground. No EFC. From the output spectrum, I think these are also doubling from a 40 MHz crystal. Dan

Re: [time-nuts] vectron 229's

2012-06-25 Thread Don Latham
I knew something nagged: blowing off dust, I found two of these, non-adjustable. One is at 101.136364 MHz, and the other at 107.864583 MHz. They're 24 volt, pin 2 (cw bottom view) and case pin 6. Other pins open. The interesting thing is that I had bought some really inexpensive AD9850 boards on

[time-nuts] A book and something else

2012-06-25 Thread Joseph Gray
While looking for something else in the archives, I saw mention of the following book by a list member: Experimentation: An introduction to measurement theory and experiment design, By D.C. Baird. I found an online, limited preview and it seemed very readable, so I decided to purchase the book.

[time-nuts] Spoofing GPS

2012-06-25 Thread J. Forster
http://www.kentuckynewsnetwork.com/cc-common/news/sections/newsarticle.html?feed=104668article=10225815 -John ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] Spoofing GPS

2012-06-25 Thread lists
Yeah, I read it. Typical Fox. The headline isn't accurate since they spoofed the civilian GPS system, not the military GPS. --Original Message-- From: J. Forster Sender: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com To: time-nuts@febo.com ReplyTo: j...@quikus.com ReplyTo: Discussion of precise time and

Re: [time-nuts] Spoofing GPS

2012-06-25 Thread Chris Albertson
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 6:43 PM, li...@lazygranch.com wrote: Yeah, I read it. Typical Fox. The headline isn't accurate since they spoofed the civilian GPS system, not the military GPS. I think it is. Currently the military uses GPS guided drones put the article says they will see more and

Re: [time-nuts] Spoofing GPS

2012-06-25 Thread Peter Gottlieb
Too little, too late. Iran proved they could get through their supposedly encrypted system (yeah, right, encrypted). Civil air patrol uses volunteers to fly border missions for under $100 an hour, which is far cheaper than those drones. But it doesn't make the drone manufacturers any money.

Re: [time-nuts] Spoofing GPS

2012-06-25 Thread lists
The USAF rediscovered manned aircraft for surveillance lately such as the U-28 or the civilian version (PC-12). They don't attract as much attention. Also the MC-12, which is just a Beechcraft. The FBI flies Cessnas. There is a lot to be said for hiding in plain sight. Back to the GPS

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble SMT board

2012-06-25 Thread David J Taylor
Hi David, I have chked vith TAC32 SW, 9600 Baud and Motorola binary code and it is working OK. even will initialize the SMT gps board when there is a power interruption and no any protocol comes out. Also chked with the Winoncore SW and it display data but not all.. and this SW does

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble SMT board

2012-06-25 Thread David J Taylor
Most of the SMT boards on the market come configured for TEP protocol which is (somewhat) compatible with the Motorola receivers. You can use a program like TRIMBLEMON to configure it for TSIP and 9800,8,N,1 serial format. Once you do that, the latest version of Lady Heather will work with