Have you tried using the SPDIF?
They're usually trouble free.
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I don't know about EDO making the sound any better, but it does allow
the Touch player to throughput 24/176.4 and 24/192 sample rates through
to an external DAC.
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> So generally speaking, is the community here finding that the USB link
> to a USB DAC better sounding than the coax out to a DAC?
No!
There's nothing wrong with the SPDIF, and there's no faffing about
trying to get it working, whereas the USB out is very hit and miss.
Any reason for using USB in preference to a perfectly good SPDIF
connection?
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> Hi
> I installed EDO but I now have severe problems getting the Touch to
> actually start. It's connected via ethernet to a Buffalo wireless bridge
> if it helps (all works OK without EDO).
> On turn on I get the 'Unsupported by Logitech" message but then the same
> message
diy_audio wrote:
> Hi Triode, congratulations on the super popular EDO app!
>
> I am new to Squeezebox touch and just wondering that after installing
> you app, would it still be possible to use the USB input (from a
> portable usb hdd or thumb drive) while using the SPDIF optical output to
>
avl2 wrote:
> Hi,
> I am new here.
>
> Can be used this app to play 192kHz flac files from an USB device
> (memory stick or external HDD) and having the digital output through the
> coaxial digital output ?
>
> thanks, regards
Yes.
Chris :)
As you've asked about connecting a USB HDD I'll add a caveat to that yes
answer.
If you're potentially having 24/192 files in the library on the device
the Touch will run into problems managing that library.
The Touch does not have serious processing capability - it runs a
slimmed down version of
Have you tried loading both 24/192 albums onto a SD card and playing
them using TinySC?
I don't think the Touch has an issue with playing them.
When I had stuttering issues on my server I uninstalled LMS, getting rid
of all the cached settings, and then doing a fresh install.
That cured my
Here in Europe you can get a genuine Logitech PSU direct from Logitech.
Have you tried logitech.com/spares?
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Got my 2nd hand SBT working (Firmware: 7.8.0-r16754), but, I was
wondering what it would sound like via USB to my Amp/Dac (model 651A).
This amp has a DAC built in. Checked the list in the EDO thread and it
is not mentioned.
Here's what the manual says -'The 651A is USB 1.1
srchaput wrote:
I can confirm the Director works (seemingly) flawlessly with the Touch
using SBT USB out on its own as well as just using USB for power while
using the SPDIF connection.
I suspect Meridian are a lot better at designing trouble free kit than a
lot of other manufacturers -
terjehaa wrote:
Hi
Sorry if this has been asked before in this thread, but does the EDO
work with the new Rega DAC-R over USB 24/192 ?
Can't find it in the google-spreadsheet-doc either
Thanks.
Why USB?
The coax SPDIF will work just fine.
Please don't reply with some nonsense about USB
Man in a van wrote:
Oh Mystic Chris, whilst peering do you see any numbers? or only,
deselect Recommended Applets Only?
atb
Ronnie (with blank Lottery card):p
:p :D
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There are quite a number of 3rd party applets.
Which one are you referring to?
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thanks chris,done that but only the MP3 works.the AAC-LC says 403
forbbiden and won't connect.
diddy
I just shut down my server (Zyxel NSA310 running LMS) and found that the
same thing happens - 403 forbidden comes up when I select the AAC-LC
stream.
When I posted my server
Firewall issue?
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I have no problems playing the BBC streams from www.mysqueezebox.com
Log into www.mysqueezebox.com and uninstall the BBC app.
Then reinstall the BBC app.
There might be an update that you're missing.
My Touch tells me that there are two Radio3 feeds via
www.mysqueezebox.com, one being MP3 and
Hi Phil
Open up LMS in a browser window and click settings (lower right hand of
the page).
Look along the tab for plugins and click on it.
Look down the list for the iTunes plugin and tick the box.
Apply the change.
Hopefully you'll find that the changes you make in iTunes will be
mirrored in
Have you heard a Mu-so?
That's what it will sound like.
The Mu-so does have an optical input, so there's no reason why you
couldn't interface a Touch with it.
It's not April 1st, so I assume your question was as serious as my
reply.
Chris :)
There's an old engineering saying, something along the lines of if you
can't get something to work RTFM!
For Windows you need the Windows driver.
There is mention of Mac OS, and it needs to be of a certain level before
it plays nice.
There's no mention of Linux in the user manual (and the Touch
Why not try using the coaxial input on the Yammie?
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There are a number of ways to control Squeezeboxes headlessly.
If you have a Smartphone you could always use an app.
With an app you can control a Squeezebox Touch even if it's running
TinySC (the onboard Server).
If you run LMS on a NAS or computer you could simply access the player
from a web
Just tried one of the listen again programmes - the Seth Lakeman one as
it happens - and nothing plays.
It works fine when accessing the same programme on iPlayer via a web
browser.
Also tried Jamie Cullum, and it's doing the same as the Seth Lakeman
programme.
Chris :)
I just tried changing the stream processing preference to WMA and all
seems to be working just fine again, both the live streams and the
listen again streams.
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I have a premium account and I have now (thanks for your tip) installed
the Triode plugin.
When I go on Spitify and mark something as Available offline I expect
it to appear under the Spotify-icon in LMS, but it doesn't. How to?
I don't know.
Your best line of attack is to
Towle wrote:
Was that all??? After SO long time and SO many hours of unsuccessful
experiments. Ach, du Lieber.
Next step will be to get Spotify working. Exatcly that started all my
problems. Mybe I'll return later ;-)
Thank you VERY much!
Do not use the official plugin - it's rubbish.
stop-spinning wrote:
I'm interested in this comment having just bought a second hand SBT - I
use Spotify a considerable amount so installed the Spotify App via
mysqueezebox.com on my account.
So far I am just streaming from the Cloud - the official Spotify App
supports this - but the
Have you tried looking for LMS on your network from the SBT?
You might have to make the SBT switch server, and you can do it from the
player itself.
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Well, one way to get rid of a problem is by defining it away.
Please yourself!
I was just stating the obvious, but if you want to throw smart comments
back feel free.
Have a nice life :)
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It's knackered!
Sell the remote control on Ebay.
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I think the OP's problems stem from using non standardised processes.
Mono is generally represented as dual mono in digital systems.
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It took a couple of days to transfer 1.75TB of data from from USB HDD
onto the HDD of my NSA310 recently.
I used the USB connection on the front of the NAS, having first of all
set up the direction of the data transfer from a web browser in admin
mode.
3GB shouldn't take very long at all, even if
It sounds like you might have a faulty HDD.
Have you tried removing it to see what it is?
Zyxel have a list of compatible HDDs on their 'website'
(http://www.zyxel.com/uk/en/products_services/nsa310.shtml?t=p)
Chris :)
might find that your USB HDD is being/has been scrubbed clean. I
hope not!
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casa7 wrote:
Also when I switch it on and the sys light keeps blinking the fan is
constantly running and it is quite noise
It shouldn't take more than a couple of minutes to boot up.
The fan is noisy during the bootup sequence, and when the system has
booted up the noise level drops
Hopefully Zyxel will get back to you soon.
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Connect the NSA310 to your router.
It should broadcast itself on your network.
When it does you can find its IP address out.
From a web browser page enter the NAS IP address and you will be
presented with a NAS login page - enter the appropriate information and
you'll enter main system admin.
Dig
Try pushing the power on/off button until it makes a long beep.
It should then shut down properly.
It will be readily apparent when it has closed down - when it has shut
down properly press the power on/off button and it should boot up
properly.
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You do have a HDD fitted, don't you?
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DavidBulluss wrote:
I am using the EDO app as per this thread and expect that 24/192 is
being sent over the TosLink to the DAC input
The Touch doesn't do 24/192 over Toslink.
Try a coax connection instead.
Chris :)
The Touch will only play files with higher sample rate if they're FLAC.
Do you have a DAC with coax SPDIF input that can support 24/192? If so
try that, and see if the problem goes away.
Another thing to consider is that some DACs/interfaces have trouble with
24/176.4 files - they just can't
Mnyb wrote:
If it ask for password you are in fact setting it for wifi not ethernet
My thoughts too!
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Thought it would be capable of playing wirelessly from phone... Shame.
The Touch is incapable of doing quite a bit when it's running on TinySC.
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drop any sub folders into that.
Then it would scan.
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I take it the the inthelakes part of your username is referring to The
Lake District in Cumbria.
All the recommendations are for UK suppliers.
I have been using one of these for a few years now and it hasn't missed
a beat
http://www.amazon.co.uk/ZyXEL-NSA310-Network-Storage-Closure/dp/B005LDM09U
castalla wrote:
Bear in mind - according to your LAN setup - that this requires an
ethernet connection to your router.
Absolutely correct!
I forgot to mention that.
That said, it's going to be the same for pretty well any other NAS you
could mention.
It's never a good idea to run both hops
Fizbin wrote:
I've only used the internal server so I am no expert on the external,
that's for sure. It just seems to me that there are pros and cons of
each. For the external (wired), there's big chain of events happening
before the music reaches you. PC/hard drive/router/cabling. It would
LMS can already downsample on the fly for players that cannot handle
higher bit/sample rate files.
The Classic, for example can only cope with 24/48 maximum, and the
server program resamples files on the fly provided that the machine
hosting LMS can handle the processing, which means that the
At least your Squeezebox is talking to the BK Reference 31 now.
There's quite a big possibility that your DVD player tops out at 24/48
or 20/48 over the SPDIF connections.
More to the point, there's a possibility that the BK can only handle up
to 24/48 on its inputs.
I remember there being a
CDLehner wrote:
So...do you specifically think it needs to be -powered-? I got the
impression, it had to do with asynchronous...between usb1 and usb2
(that's kinda what the EDO says).
My thinking is powered because the Touch is possibly struggling to
provide the power to drive the USB
The SBT runs Linux.
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Would a powered USB hub help?
Can't hurt to try
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Julf wrote:
As stated recently in a different context, In the triangle of religion,
politics and science, science is always the loser.
The problem with many who fall into the scientific camp is that they
disregard what their senses tell them because their are no measurements
that can support
eduardoo wrote:
I Just upgraded to 7.7.3 with qnap's qpkg
If the Qnap is LMS package is anything like the Zyxel LMS package then
they'll have removed bits of code because they require lots of
processing.
For example, the Zyxel LMS package does not support transcoding on the
fly - it's just too
eduardoo wrote:
I see. Thanks.
Guess I need not keep those wav2496 files then
Happy Easter.
You could always turn EDO off to play those files.
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Couldn't you convert the wavs to flacs? I find wavs a nuisance since
support for tags is too limited.
I find WAVs a nuisance too, and don't have them in my library at all.
I couldn't live with the lack of readable tags for one, and I can't hear
any differences between WAV and
eduardoo wrote:
I have been using Edo into USB for some while. Recently I dug up some
old 24/96 wav to play, but I got nothing but noise. Those files played
fine way back when there was no Edo. However, flac plays fine up to
24/192 and 16/44 wav play fine. Is this normal?
Thanks.
Yes
tdgruen wrote:
If I select Analog + Digital, I hear music from all outputs. Is this
somehow disabling the EDO feature? Perhaps it is, and I have to select
Digital Only to activate EDO??
Got it in one :)
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JerryFn wrote:
Most of my frustrations are network related, how many times have I
really booted my wifi:-( Finally I connected via PowerLine ethernet,
wow rock solid and responsive. I really wish I had done it earlier.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
Try connecting via direct
Try this http://37.130.228.60/aac-320.m3u
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The dumbed down bit about downloading material should make it a hit.
Several million iTunes store users have proved this point.
As for format, none of us here have any idea about which format to
download material in, have we? ;)
The rest of it is going to depend on the interfacing capability -
xdb wrote:
*Perhaps I'm naive but I would have thought that all the discs in a
professional box set would be similarly tagged etc*. So if I can see
one why can't I see the other nine?
It's more a frustration than anything else because ultimately I can play
them all. But I would really
Mnyb wrote:
Cable length is not a problem run similar lengths myself .
They say about 100m for Ethernet
The cable lengths are not a problem, just unusual. Patch leads are
normally 10m maximum length.
100m end to end is correct - wired infrastructure is 90m end to end
(maximum) to allow 10m
What are the cable colours in order at the plug ends?
Just curious.
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Sounds like an IP addressing issue.
I take it they're different routers at each location?
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Have you tried switching library?
You can find it in My Music on the Touch player's menus.
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Yes, I have gone to that menu, but my Library does not show up there.
So you've gone to My Music/Switch Library/... on the Touch player?
Any device you have running LMS should announce itself on the network -
I've run a couple of different devices as server before now, and
Looks like the best solution is the one you've found already,
infuriating as it may be.
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Thanks this seemed to fix my problem(Factory Reset)
You're welcome.
Shame about our unpleasant friend from Germany spoiling the mood, eh?
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You need to load drivers onto a computer to work with the N-50.
The Touch is native Linux, which the N-50 doesn't understand.
Stick to the coax SPDIF.
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My mistake - there aren't any drivers required for Macs.
The SPDIF coaxial passes 24/192 files with no problems.
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Also, have you tried doing a factory reset on your Touch?
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How do you switch off the backlight? is it not essential for LCD
operation?
There is a Display Off screensaver hidden in the Applets menu on the
Touch.
You might have to untick Logitech Applets only, as it's a 3rd party
plugin (by Triode IIRC).
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SlimChances wrote:
Is this an indication that my ethernet cables are faulty?
No.
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I'll take your points in order.
I'm not having a snipe at Logitech - when the Touch worked it was great.
What I came home from work and wanted to listen to something to
something from my collection and I turned it on, it was great. What
wasn't great was the (sadly frequent)
You've killed it Dave.
RIP Squeezbox Touch.
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Fizbin wrote:
Well, now. I did some listening tests between FLAC and WAVE and I
couldn't believe how inferior sounding the FLAC was in comparison
How did you convert some of your WAVs to FLAC, and what compression
value did you use?
Chris :)
I've had no stability issues running Spotify or anything else I wanted
to use with the 2 Touches and Zyxel NSA310 (running LMS).
One Touch is on ethernet, the other wireless, and the NSA310 is
connected via ethernet.
It appears that the OP is simply having a snipe at Logitech, which is
something
JohnSwenson wrote:
I'm thinking it might be a ground loop (I was involved in one recently
that went through a USB cable, so it CAN happen).
John S..
It's a ground loop, and you can hear SMPS oscillation breaking through
it
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lugnutz wrote:
Just to follow up on this issue, which apparently still exists... After
having the same horrible screech when transitioning between 44 and 48KHz
sample rates for both my touch (for both digital and analog output), UE
radio and radio, it finally dawned on me that the problem is
Why not convert .ape files to something Squeezebox likes?
It's easy enough to do.
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Before you read them. I would like to understand why now does not read
more.
Because it's end of line.
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jimbobvfr400 wrote:
Ape isn't a natively supported format, its transcoded by LMS. It could
possibly be your NAS either doesn't have the grunt or is missing some
libraries to enable it to do the transcoding.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 4
My NAS doesn't have the grunt to support
What are the file names?
By that I mean what are the titles when you look at them *without* using
a media player?
I had an issue with tracks ripped from DVD-A yesterday where they would
not appear in the correct order in Foobar, despite all the tags being
correct. The names from ripping were the
What's with the obsession about USB?
It should stream 24/192 quite happily over SPDIF if you've installed
EDO.
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Add Zyxel onto your list - I have their NSA310 running server and it
just works.
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It's been a while since I had a SB3 on the network, so I'm working from
memory.
If you open the player settings in LMS (thee page where you can fix the
output to 100%) you will see something there about attenuation.
This affects the analog outputs on the SB3 - IIRC if you have a value
there of 63
DSD is not supported.
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jdt7385 wrote:
Thanks for the information. It would be interesting to be play in 24/192
mode just to see if I could hear any difference between that mode and
24/96. I will read the information in the thread with interest. *Touch
is playing the 24/192 files but apparently it downsamples to do
Riplee wrote:
Hi,
Not sure what is wrong...perhaps it's me...but after following the
instructions to the letter, when I try to play 24/192 FLAC files...they
run very slow...very low pitched...like a turntable running on 16 (if
anyone remembers that!) Everything up to 96K plays fine...but
PasTim wrote:
The V-DAC II spec says it will only handle 24/96. See
http://www.musicalfidelity.com/uploads/catalogerfiles/v-dacii/4_VDACii_24-96asynchUSB_manual.pdf
I have the M1-CLiC, and it will only handle 192 on Coax.
My DAC is a M2Tech Evo, and it will only handle 24/192 over coax
PasTim wrote:
On my system the limitation is definitely the optical input on my
M1-CL1C (stated in the manual to only support 24/96)
Using my Vortexbox Appliance, Squeezelite and a Meridian Explorer USB
DAC with optical output, I have sent 24/192 PCM over optical to a
Marantz M-CR603, at
scintilla wrote:
I moved my server to a new iMac and changed my router to a new Time
Capsule about a month ago. No problem getting LMS up and going on the
mac. But I can't seem to figure out what is up with the network.
24/192k files will no longer play without continuous dropouts. I
In theory the Seagate should be OK.
In practice 2TB can hold a pretty large library, probably too large for
the Touch to handle comfortably.
For not too much expenditure you could purchase a NAS capable of running
LMS and a 2TB SATA drive.
I've been using one for a couple of years now, and it
The Touch is very different from the SB3, and for everything that has
been gained on the swings there's something has been lost on the
roundabouts.
I missed the weather forecast screensaver from the SB3, but I've become
accustomed to the fact it doesn't work on the Touch.
It's also EOL, so nobody
challenger1 wrote:
Anyone know if my Music Hall 25.2 DAC would have the correct USB output
for this upgrade? Newby here!
Install the app and find out.
If the Touch doesn't show you the DAC as an option over USB then it
doesn't do it.
The app also works over the SPDIF coax connection from the
Get a DC lead extension cable - the connector for the Touch is 2.5mm
internal diameter :)
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