Haha, I like the name :)
6 cores was officially unsupported by Asus for my version of mobo.
Unfortunately, I didn't succeed in making it work.
And I'm tired of all this anyway.
So I'll stick to 4 cores since finally it's working well with SeaBIOS.
Yet to fix (but I'm done working on it):
* GRUB doesn't work (biggest
IT WORKS!!!
Well, not with Libreboot:
* keyboard fails to work after reboot unless removing CMOS
* it couldn't launch a good disk install.
* it couldn't reach the LiveCD after the first flashing of the rom on the
chip
With Coreboot (thanks to #coreboot):
* I built only for i386 since 64 bits
From the same link:
These replies mean that the responder thinks (a) the information you need is
easy to find, and (b) you will learn more if you seek out the information
than if you have it spoon-fed to you.
Easy to find? The clean room concept? I beg to differ.
Better to seek info instead
Hi to the funny lone downvoter. I like to upvote myself and others when I see
idiotic downvotes, so instead of wasting your time, why don't you actually
answer to the posts you don't like?
I can understand upvoting without an explanation, but not downvoting without
an explanation.
Sticking only to the present thread (I don't know the backstory of those
two):
0npon4 merely repeated/compiled what was said before him (though ignoring
that I've had already stated myself that the leak what very possibly
illegal).
But you're right tonlee: for example many torrents are
Out of sheer desperation, I reflashed Libreboot. I can reach the live session
again this time (gotta make sure that such instability is unrelated to
hardware unplugging/replugging, even if it's only the monitor).
So most likely the problem is the install.
I tried to chroot, but I don't know
I can't access the live session anymore from Libreboot (and nothing changed
AT ALL since last time it worked).
It maybe works for a few people (lilos, jxself, the Libreboot team), but not
for me. And it's not like I didn't try.
I have nothing else to try anyway. Both #libreboot and #coreboot
For ReactOS at least, that's what they do. Read a few posts above for
details.
OK, removing some RAM made the boot faster, at least.
But still the same issues otherwise.
So I tried Libreboot again, and while the boot time is slow, it gives the
best results: it goes beyond the SeaBIOS screen on the disk install (and the
LiveCD works fine). But I land on a blank screen
1. That point is already settled since legal or not, at least React OS would
never even consult it (clean room design).
2. I see with Legimet's examples how it easy it can be. So indeed, the from
now on, any written line of code is at risk.
Btw, if a case happens and is lost, all the code
Thanks for the info.
OK so what's the problem then ? Sheer bad luck in creating from scratch
something very close to the few lines of code leaked? Possible, but unlikely.
And, why would it not be the other way around?
As for "STFU because you don't know what you're talking about":
I wouldn't learn a thing in that
I gave up on the 6 cores CPU, I don't know what else to try with it. The info
I got on IRC was rather cryptic this time.
So back to the 4 cores, with SeaBIOS only. I can see the liveCD menu, but no
way to see the live session. No way start the install on disk.
But at least SeaBIOS does
Well, since there's actually very little code leaked, I doubt it's really
troublesome. And since it's "available", the WINE and ReactOS team can make
sure to avoid such pitfall by comparing before publishing.
I see no serious reason to worry about that.
But isn't there something like a time stamp? Something that validates that
the code was like that at a time before the leak?
Plus it's licensed. I don't know much about all that stuff though, but it
seems farfetched.
Yet since the code is available on both sides, the comparison and
verification will be possible, and the claim debunked.
Lilos:
After some time i was able to fix all my problems :)
Libreboot do not work.
Coreboot works ! I build with no microcode updates and with seabios!
Coreboot have one bug also but in irc we fixed configuration file generation!
Also no boot wait!
System boot super fast !
Lilos, how did
I don't understand why a server isn't an option for you.
To me:
* people I communicate with are 99% on non-free providers. So my emails are
compromised anyway.
* from there, Openmailbox/mail server vs Gmail/Yahoo, not much of a
difference, I suppose. Well, free software on a personal server
WINE and ReactOS happened before the source code leak, therefore that
argument can't stand.
As for the source code itself, it's meaningful only to see how f***ed up it
might be regarding privacy.
Else, I don't care since I don't use it (OK I do at work, but not willingly).
It shouldn't be
It seems I'm out of ammo. The log I got was limited to whatever I booted on.
Meaning it's a log about the live session, not about the prior failed boot
from disk.
Also, the vga rom option seems to be useless, since SeaBIOS is already
displayed.
I'll see what else I can try for the 6
Definitely!
Here's a more compact version of the "way of the browsing" (from my pov):
-
TorBB: anonymity (text/images websites) / no config at all. Firejail can't
hurt though.
-
(secondary) Hardened browser: privacy and security (anything else that can
SeaBIOS still doesn't show all my disks, and doesn't boot the newest install
either.
Internal VGA only displays SeaBIOS (it takes longer), but it ends up not
booting. It makes it harder to reflash: I must switch the CPU, get back to 4
cores where I can use internal VGA only if needed (my
Interesting, to compare, as much as I love dmenu, I feel dwm is not as good
as i3wm (a typical case of extreme minimalism that hardens
usablity/possibilities).
That's not an issue regarding Firefox though, plus I get that your point was
about the Philosophy. Just sharing a thought :)
I
some more news:
Still with 6 cores, I've tested everything in QEMU.
Seems my first build of Coreboot was problematic.
Building a new one, I can reach the LiveCD on the KFSN4-DRE.
Definitely used microcode updates (didn't work without).
SeaBIOS is displayed every time on the external GPU.
So
They have other downsides, IIRC (no https or something).
I think Firefox (and it's children) is a must because it's a great web
development tool, it's more easily hackable (I have a script copying the URL
displayed to use with youtube-dl), and it's still safer than lightweight
browser (I
I have to admit that I let it run for months without turning it off, and I
don't know if the fan needs cleaning.
Thermal paste, good idea, I'll try that too.
Unfortunately, I don't know, but I'm pretty sure there's a log about that
somewhere.
I wonder if they don't have the problems of cellphones. I mean if they can
receive, they can be located I guess. I don't know.
Isn't that what the thugs use in the first season of "The Wire" (along with
"burners")? Ah, even doctors still use that.
Nevertheless, pagers continue to be used by
Just out of curiosity, why is Replicant out of the question for you?
Thanks again SuperTramp :)
Following these tutorials
https://trisquel.info/en/forum/virtualbox-being-removed-trisquel#comment-41768
https://www.coreboot.org/Lesson1
https://www.coreboot.org/QEMU_Build_Tutorial
I managed to boot the LiveCD/iso.
But no way to boot the coreboot rom right now.
qemu-system-x86_64 -m 512M -bios
Thanks uboot! Much appreciated :)
This is depressing. The information is scarce and confusing.
Tell me about it... It's hard, but just don't stop ;)
We can have the best free hardware available around very soon.
Some features are limited for now, but it's minor enough, to me.
This GRUB error
Thanks for the food for thought, SuperTramp83!
do you configure NoScript and UO?
Wow, that user.js page even has a tutorial to further harden that browser.
There's so much things to consider, it's impressive, specially considering
that that file already takes care of...
my X200 also gets rather hot, specially if the weather is hot as well. I've
had kernel panics because of that.
But sometimes the CPU % gets very high as well.
Both CPU use and CPU temp get super high only for a few seconds. But this can
happen frequently.
But I use the default system
I might be mistaken, but a flip phone isn't better.
The modem is still able to track you.
And you can be sure that none of the software in there is free. You can't
browse the web with Tor, you can't use F-droid apps.
Else, more solid (or like, cheaper so damage isn't as bad), better battery
Yes, for example, all the Neo900 can do is to guarantee that turning off the
modem will actually do that. For a high price.
Unfortunately, for work, it's rather difficult to live without one. At best,
one can use Airplane mode on Galaxy S2 (supposedly, no signal goes out after
a reboot),
So Ublock Origin can do that, and privacy settings can deal with the safe
browsing config (though in itself pretty much harmless), is that right?
It's been a while I wanted to focus on useful to mandatory addons (depending
on the threat model).
This gives 2 more things to check:
- DNS
Maybe this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AGZz_9wAMI
OK, as advized on #coreboot, I'll try the rom with the install on Qemu first,
just to isolate problems (whether they're Coreboot or Payload related).
No idea, but maybe check this https://github.com/endel/vim-github-colorscheme
Hopefully C++ is already supported.
You could try to convert it with calibre to some other format (maybe even pdf
to pdf).
I could try to input kernel parameters (acpi=off, vga=normal), but I guess I
need GRUB then (I doubt I can do it with SeaBIOS alone).
From the liveCD:
hardware detection tool says : failed to load libmenu.c32 and COM32 file
hdt.c32
memory diagnostic tool doesn't even start.
Trying the
Agreed. That's my last post on this thread, no matter the answers. I said
what I had to say.
So when you criticize your competitors and compete with them aggressively,
it's OK ;
but it's not OK when they do it to you? Is that what you're saying?
Also, sorry, you have zero excuse for that huge downvoting thing.
And even coming from a supposed biased person, some of the criticism can
Using microcodes (SeaBIOS only since GRUB is useless in this case), SeaBIOS
(and the LiveCD menu, at last), appear only on VGA, and to see the verbosity
when starting a live session, I must switch to DVI.
No problem for daily use: I'll just stay on DVI until it boots.
Now, will the LiveCD
Ah Leah, also this: I see I can either build with GRUB or SeaBIOS, but how do
I chainload one from the other?
Well, I'll go for Coreboot WITH the microcode updates (#libreboot also
suggested that). Hopefully this will be enough.
Leah, if you read this:
If microcodes updates for the KFSN4-DRE make it really work with a 6 cores
CPU, is it worth it to try and build Libreboot for 6 cores? And if so, how
I see, so it's like future-proofing, in a way. And independence.
Many thanks for your explanations!
And long live AVideo! I'll try it soon enough.
I've let it rest a bit, and managed to start the install with the LiveCD. I
hope there's a way to get the text install from the LiveCD install (it didn't
show the menu, but booted directly into the desktop).
Also it might be stuck during the install here (blank screen, only the mouse
Some more progress: doing the old "unplug and hold the start button 30s" got
me a nearly clean access to the liveCD (minus reloading some Mate apps like
"show desktop").
Plus SeaBIOS chainloading GRUB was displayed on the external GPU!
But (the one and only but) launching the install starts
OK, some news:
the ASUS KFNSE4-DRE does run on one 6 cores CPU, contrarily to what ASUS's
website states (I do have a rev 1.05G though but it's the standard version
IIRC, stated as not being supported).
So make sure you have the exact same board as mine at least.
Plus the CPU fan
So Libreboot most likely have something less than Coreboot (non-free).
Assuming this is the reason, yes Libreboot is a priority.
Are you sure that you ext. GPU is supported by free software?
For grub.cfg, try also your luck on #grub/#libreboot/#coreboot. Leah might
know about it too.
All I did regarding Coreboot was this (during the config before building the
rom):
Chipset :
Include CPU microcode in CBFS -> Do not include microcode updates
Is that enough? I diddn't see anything about memory initialization blobs for
example.
I doubt programming requires anything specific (I suppose compiling is
faster with a strong enough CPU).
Maybe check the keyboard shortcuts config.
Ah, so you suspect some possible non-free component still in there.
Isn't there somewhere a list of the modifications between Coreboot and
Libreboot?
It can be also a matter of versions as well.
It's an interesting question.
I'll try Libreboot for my board then.
Try this ;)
http://doctormo.deviantart.com/art/Gimp-2-8-Photoshop-Tweaks-432736644
With coreboot-4.6 or latest git :
Withtout external GPU (and onboard VGA enabled in build system) : Boots fine
With external GPU (and onboard VGA disabled in build system) : Boots fine
Tested with seabios, grub (although I have an issue with my grub.cfg, but I
do have a video output so it's
Really good idea. But that means that both outputs must be connected to the
same screen, right ?
I'm sure there's a way to automatically launch a hand-made script after
booting.
One alternative would be to use both DVI and VGA (one for each GPU, and
manually switch. But I'm sure it can be
See here https://trisquel.info/en/forum/replicant-video-tutorial
Not gonna happen any time soon, just like with PHP :/
I agree, and it's the best option.
Yet in this specific case, since it isn't available right now, no matter the
malware, getting that URL is safe enough (any potential malware remains
sandboxed).
But clearly, it's just a second-best fix.
Or when you don't have a better option at the moment. Technically it's not
running non-free software directly on my machine since it's in a sandbox.
Sure it doesn't strictly goes with full software freedom,
and I'm all for a better option.
But right now, this is a way to execute just a bit of
Ah, so while the CPU is maybe similar to a X200, the performance is still
better? Is that a libreboot PC?
Yeah, I forgot that I don't even know if my GPU works with SeaBIOS
chainloading GRUB... I just tried, and it doesn't work...
*sigh*, I'll try to update SeaBIOS (I shouldn't be needing
True. But don't you have an error message when it crashes?
If not, maybe enabling verbosity somewhere might do so.
Nothing that can't be solved with love and friendship. Wait, I meant with a
duel, an old-fashioned duel.
For the user, the more sellers, the better. The lower the prices, the better.
But this whole thread feels like spam (and takes the potential client for an
idiot).
Actually, since SeaBIOS is most likely mandatory for this board, I'm not sure
signing the kernel and GRUB password is worth it. That makes SeaBIOS
accessible anyway, so...
So I'll stick with:
- SeaBIOS only. GRUB is useless in this case, only an unnecessary step (full
disk encryption
I know there are hardware knobs to turn up/down fan speed.
The idea is to also control the noise output.
I mean monitoring is one thing, but you need to be able to increase the
airflow if needed.
Having a fully free version being put aside just for the sake of
understanding: with youtube-dl and vlc, what data am I giving up by using
that tiny bit of JS used for making URLs readable?
Can't that be sandboxed, so that any extra JS execution would remain harmless
and limited?
Like some
I guess I was a bit tired and overwhelmed by all this, but it doesn't sound
so hard after all. I'll start again with slowly reading doc first :)
I don't think SeaBIOS supports passwords (I'm pretty sure I've read that from
Coreboot's doc).
So I'll have to stick with what I already got (GRUB
So, what's left:
- most likely, I'll have to stick with SeaBIOS only. Easy. I'll still do the
full test with GRUB (easy as well).
- checking the kernel and the bootloader's signature seems awfully
complicated.
I might pass (overkill, specially for a home destop PC for an average user).
I
Thanks Leah :)
The rough idea is
/home on a SSD (encrypted),
/boot on the same SSD (unencrypted, unless I get lucky with GRUB),
/data on one HDD (encrypted),
/backup on another HDD (encrypted, and same size as the other HDD),
the goal being that I'd like to be able to reinstall /home easily if needed,
while
Thank you Leah!
Last question, if I may (hard to find the info):
Assuming I dedicated a volume group for each physical drive (with the same
passphrase. the goal is to have a drive I can leave untouched in case of a
reinstall),
does that mean I have to unlock them one after the other?
Well,
See below. Hopefully it's only missing modules not loaded automatically.
Did you succeed with your machine?
Reading this, I tried inserting GRUB modules manually
http://grub.johnlane.ie/
And insmod luks works, but cryptomount then says "Cypher aes isn't
available". What's that, another module?
For the sake of trying stuff, I tried to insmod lvm, but the module isn't
found, even though I'm pretty
I don't know about mpv, but vlc relies on some scripts.
I mean it's perfect for Youtube, but many other websites work only with
Youtube-dl.
See here
https://trisquel.info/en/forum/how-i-browse-and-watch-youtube#comment-113840
I'll fix the grub font issue later.
On to n°2:
about the lvm :
at grub, I hit "c" to reach the prompt page, and I type "ls (ataX,msdosY)
(previously listed with ls only).
And I get "no known filesystem detected", whereas when installing, I
definitely defined the partition as ext4 (roughly
I might have read too fast, but it does work with "SeaGRUB".
The only downside is that my bootorder file isn't recognized.
But before trying "GRUBSea", I'll modify the bootorder file. I see that
SeaBIOS lists "Payload [grub]". So I'll try grub instead of grub.lzma or
grub2.
Never had this error (yet... ). But I know I have the first line of grub.cfg
(I took mine from Libreboot, and modified it a bit) about setting some
prefix.
It says "set prefix=(memdisk)/boot/grub"
I can't precisely figure out where (memdisk) is though (besides being inside
GRUB).
Also,
Hi uboot,
GRUB alone displayed the LiveCD in a deformed way (like the screen was
flattened from the top). But that's with the onboard graphics, I can't speak
for the external GPU yet.
The solution suggested on #coreboot was to build GRUB with the latest version
instead (because of some
Surveillance agencies trying to get as much power as they can is documented.
Most likely, they're still competing one against another. There's no unique
entity (yet, if ever).
But I don't see how that proves the BS you write about (removing 2/3 of
humanity, Human Rights being a
Forgot about SSD optimization:
https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/ssd
https://askubuntu.com/questions/674320/what-ssd-optimization-are-needed-on-latest-ubuntu-version
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/optimize-linux-ssds/
Gotta figure out what to actually do (as absolutely recommended
Oh, thanks. At least I won't be surprised anymore.
Unfortunately it's a blogger page that demands javascript, but it's still the
best info I could get on (memdisk):
https://lukeluo.blogspot.nl/2013/06/grub-how-to-4-memdisk-and-loopback.html
Some highlights:
the memdisk is attached to a
Original post (suddenly locked, go figure):
https://trisquel.info/en/forum/asus-kfsn-4-dre-end-november-2016
Yeah, so the real problem is that after cryptomount -a, "set
root='lvm/rootvolume-logicalvolume" can't be found.
hmm... The only difference is that I have other disks, so other volume
Great news, the price is nice! And it seems the RAM is upgradable as well.
Oh, true, I thought it (kind of), but this has to be explicit. Thanks for the
info :)
For xmpp accounts:
http://www.hacker10.com/computer-security/the-best-xmppjabber-servers-for-anonymous-chat/
Isn't it simply about publishing sources/keep them readable (not minified) ?
That's absolutely not what I said...
"They", if it's those bavarian dudes (including Goethe, awesome fellow),
planned to do rather positive things (the OPPOSITE of NWO). Plus they don't
exist anymore since a long time ago.
Frome there, "they", to you, are some supposedly real life people
Hey, why Griselda-Beatriz has such a crazy funky name when John is plain
John?
Such a missed opportunity. I suggest "Johnny-Johannes-DaBoss the 3rd". Yeah,
no.
Still too tame :P
Kinda harsh to me. Also, it's quite ironic to preach for privacy if you spy
on them (even if it's to teach them a lesson).
Historically?
You mean bavarian illuminati? Because "The society's goals were to oppose
superstition, obscurantism, religious influence over public life and abuses
of state power. "The order of the day," they wrote in their general statutes,
"is to put an end to the machinations of the
OK, next episode: I learned about lsmod and insmod (or modprobe). no
kryptodisk.mod, nor crypto.mod nor luks.mod (if it even exists) isn't in the
GRUB image I've built.
That is despite me writing cryptodisk as a module to add before building.
I think The Matrix is also a good movie about this.
You know, the fake steak vs the disgusting (but real and nutrious) stuff they
eat when out of the Matrix.
History is also a good source : the Stasi, the book burnings, the lists...
Most likely what they're interested in (books, comics,
I don't know about the cash reward. Also the web is full of resume ;)
Thanks for some of those reading suggestions.
;)
Back at this soul eating project: adding "cryptodisk" to GRUB2_EXTRA_MODULES
failed.
Plus I accidentally erased my proprietary chip/rom.
Thankfully, I can boot the liveCD from the SeaBIOS rom, so I can still fix
it.
I thought I need to add the .mod extension, but it doesn't seem I need to.
Looks cool, thanks !
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