Re: PETER: Re: [TruthTalk] God and war

2003-01-28 Thread Peter Eyland
On 28/1/03 5:26 PM, little children of Jesus Christ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Respectfully, Peter, ye're all wet, mate. The word end there is not as in abolish but rather as in goal. Hence your entire view of the old testament economy is skewed. We'd be much better under that economy and

Re: [TruthTalk] God and war

2003-01-28 Thread Terry Clifton
Finally, something we can agree on. Terry Second, I stopped "pledgin" to the flag long ago. It just doesn't set well with me Scripturally speaking. I also teach to stay out of McDonald's. I rarely ever went there anyway (there are PUHLENTY of reasons NOT to go

Re: [TruthTalk] God and war

2003-01-28 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 1/28/2003 7:53:17 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Second, I stopped "pledgin" to the flag long ago. It just doesn't set well with me Scripturally speaking. Pledging to the flag is a personal thing. I think it is my responsibility to respect my

RE: [TruthTalk] God and war

2003-01-28 Thread michael douglas
- Original Message - From: Terry Clifton To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 4:30 PM Subject: [TruthTalk] God and war My grand son is in the army, just volunteered to go to Kuwait. To him it is a great adventure. Got me to wondering; how Christian

TERRY - Re: [TruthTalk] God and war

2003-01-28 Thread little children of Jesus Christ
\o/ !HALALU Yah! \o/ Greetings in the Matchless Name of YahShua !! - Original Message - From: Terry Clifton To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01/27/2003 7:24 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] God and war Marlin: Please do not believe everything someone puts in print. "WWII

PHARIZZY: Re: [TruthTalk] God and war

2003-01-28 Thread little children of Jesus Christ
\o/ !HALALU Yah! \o/ Greetings in the Matchless Name of YahShua !! - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01/27/2003 7:58 AM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] God and war Marlin, Life is not really one big Conspiracy Theory. You have been hanging

PROPOGANDA - Re: [TruthTalk] God and war

2003-01-28 Thread little children of Jesus Christ
- Original Message - From: "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01/27/2003 9:05 AM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] God and war Were it not for people like them, you and I would not have our religious freedom, and would not be able to spread the gosp

GARY -- Re: [TruthTalk] God and war

2003-01-28 Thread little children of Jesus Christ
MORE WWF wrestling ... - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01/27/2003 11:52 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] God and war may i ask, if SH doesn't have a 'nuke' on hand, who would anticipate him detonating one in NYC

Re: [TruthTalk] God and war

2003-01-28 Thread little children of Jesus Christ
hat? SHAME ON YOU! We could get really legalistic here. Laura -- Matthew 7:13 "Stick and stones" etc. Chris -- Matthew 7:14 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01/28/2003 8:24 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] God and war

Re: [TruthTalk] God and war

2003-01-28 Thread CHamm56114
OK So you don't pledge to the flag but how about to the country it represents which is one nation under God? Laura

RE: [TruthTalk] God and war

2003-01-28 Thread ShieldsFamily
Terry, I guess you forgot about the One nation, UNDER God part. Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Terry Clifton Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 8:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] God and war Laura

Re: [TruthTalk] God and war

2003-01-28 Thread little children of Jesus Christ
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01/28/2003 4:45 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] God and war I'm not even dignifying this one with an answer! I will spend my time doing something worthwhile for the kingdom of God! Laura You mean like pledging

Re: [TruthTalk] God and war

2003-01-28 Thread CHamm56114
om: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01/28/2003 8:24 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] God and war In a message dated 1/28/2003 7:53:17 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Second, I stopped "pledgin" to the flag long ago. It just doesn't set well with me Scripturally speaking.

RE: [TruthTalk] God and war

2003-01-28 Thread Terry Clifton
. Is that the nation? Terry ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 16:37:00 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] God and war Terry, I guess you forgot about the “One nation, UNDER God” part. Izzy -Original Message-From: [EMAIL

RE: [TruthTalk] God and war

2003-01-28 Thread ShieldsFamily
PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] God and war Izzy What nation would that be? I hope you are not talking about the one withtwo queers and a murderer in congress and a freemason for a president, the one that kills four million unborn boys and girls every year, the one that sells

RE: [TruthTalk] God and war

2003-01-28 Thread ShieldsFamily
for our safe trip. Really. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Terry Clifton Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 7:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] God and war Izzy: I haven't given up hope for this nation

RE: [TruthTalk] God and war

2003-01-28 Thread Terry Clifton
You can count on those prayers. Terry ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 19:57:13 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] God and war Terry, I understand completely. Actually, I believe it was Billy Graham’s wife who stated

Re: [TruthTalk] God and war

2003-01-27 Thread Terry Clifton
? What am I missing? Terry - Original Message - From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 1:08 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] God and war Terry wrote: Will someone who has thought this through please give me your findings? Hi Terry

Re: [TruthTalk] God and war

2003-01-27 Thread Terry Clifton
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RE: [TruthTalk] God and war

2003-01-27 Thread ShieldsFamily
Halverson Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 5:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] God and war The answer is very clear in scripture: MAT 6:24 {No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one

RE: [TruthTalk] God and war

2003-01-27 Thread ShieldsFamily
PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] God and war David: Thanks for your thoughts. What you suggest is obviously the most effective way to eliminate what we perceive to be a threat. I personally would not miss New York city but I suppose many people would. It seems, however, that following that logic

Re: [TruthTalk] God and war

2003-01-27 Thread David Miller
Terry wrote: Is this nation so Godly that we can now tell others/force others to do as we say? Can we see clearly that this is what Jesus would have us do? How do we justify our behavior based on the Sermon on the mount? What am I missing? God appoints government to use force to judge

RE: [TruthTalk] God and war

2003-01-27 Thread ShieldsFamily
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Terry Clifton Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 9:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] God and war Izzy: The one mental picture I have of the last war with Saddam

Re: [TruthTalk] God and war

2003-01-27 Thread David Miller
Terry wrote: The one mental picture I have of the last war with Saddam was one I saw on the evening news at that time. It was the rubble of a little Christian church building we had destroyed. I hope it was rebuilt. I hope we do not do it again. I would not fret too much about that,

Re: [TruthTalk] God and war

2003-01-27 Thread David Miller
David Miller wrote: Saddam Hussein is working toward obtaining nuclear weapons in a secretive manner. (?) Gary wrote: the premise above (underlined) is a strange one, DavidM--the issue is that SH has nuc weapons on hand, is hiding them Who says that? I guess I'm pretty ignorant about this

Re: [TruthTalk] God and war

2003-01-27 Thread ttxpress
mailer.htm. Izzy -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 1:16 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] God and war On Mon, 27 Jan 2003 02:08:56 -0

Re: [TruthTalk] God and war

2003-01-27 Thread ttxpress
On Mon, 27 Jan 2003 15:05:29 -0500 "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Gary wrote:the issue is that SH has nuc weaponson hand, is hiding them [i.e., refuses to 'disarm'][DavidM:] Who says that? U.S. Ambassador John Negroponte said he had heard nothing that gave "any hope that

Re: [TruthTalk] God and war

2003-01-27 Thread Terry Clifton
---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:56:43 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] God and war Terry wrote: Is this nation so Godly that we can now tell others/force others to do as we say? Can we see clearly that this is what Jesus would

Re: [TruthTalk] God and war

2003-01-27 Thread Peter Eyland
On 28/1/03 5:36 AM, David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would not fret too much about that, Terry. It is my understanding that Christianity is illegal in Iraq. I could be wrong, because I have not been there, but from what I have read, the Iraqi government destroyed their churches.

RE: [TruthTalk] God and war

2003-01-27 Thread ShieldsFamily
: Re: [TruthTalk] God and war On 28/1/03 5:36 AM, David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would not fret too much about that, Terry. It is my understanding that Christianity is illegal in Iraq. I could be wrong, because I have not been there, but from what I have read, the Iraqi government

Re: [TruthTalk] God and war

2003-01-27 Thread Marlin Halverson
Life is not really one big Conspiracy Theory. -Izzy I am glad that you know this. You have been hanging around Chris too much, in my opinion.-Izzy I do not hang around with Chris, and do not even know what he looks like. I do appreciate him for the many truths that he heralds in his own

Re: [TruthTalk] God and war

2003-01-27 Thread ttxpress
may i ask, if SH doesn't have a 'nuke' on hand, who would anticipate him detonating one in NYC? On Mon, 27 Jan 2003 15:05:29 -0500 "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:I don't know one person who believes that Saddam has nukes right now and is hiding them... --- [But] It could be

Re: [TruthTalk] God and war

2003-01-27 Thread little children of Jesus Christ
- Original Message - From: Terry Clifton To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01/26/2003 3:30 PM Subject: [TruthTalk] God and war Looking back on my life as an American citizen, I can remember world war two, the Korean "conflict, the Viet Nam thing, Desert Storm, Panama, Haiti, B

PETER: Re: [TruthTalk] God and war

2003-01-27 Thread little children of Jesus Christ
Title: Re: [TruthTalk] God and war \o/ !HALALU Yah! \o/ Greetings Peter in the Matchless Name of YahShua !! - Original Message - From: Peter Eyland To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01/26/2003 4:34 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] God and war Personally, I don’t agree

RIGHT-O, MARLIN Re: [TruthTalk] God and war

2003-01-27 Thread little children of Jesus Christ
urs, Chris - Original Message - From: Marlin Halverson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01/26/2003 5:24 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] God and war The answer is very clear in scripture: MAT 6:24 {No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one,

bad guys/good guys/?same guys? Re: [TruthTalk] God and war

2003-01-27 Thread little children of Jesus Christ
ROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01/27/2003 1:08 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] God and war Terry wrote: Will someone who has thought this through please give me your findings? Hi Terry. From my perspective, the options appear straight forward. Saddam Hussein is working toward obtain

[TruthTalk] God and war

2003-01-26 Thread Terry Clifton
Looking back on my life as an American citizen, I can remember world war two, the Korean "conflict, the Viet Nam thing, Desert Storm, Panama, Haiti, Bosnia, the Taliban, and now back to Iraq. Very few of my sixty-nine years have been spent when we were not at war with someone. WW two I can

Re: [TruthTalk] God and war

2003-01-26 Thread Peter Eyland
Title: Re: [TruthTalk] God and war Gday Terry et al, Well I havent thought through all the war business, so this is straight off the top of my head. In the OT, God instigates and approves war, and the torah has these specific rules for war. Dont fear the enemy in war and dont panic in battle

Re: [TruthTalk] God and war

2003-01-26 Thread Marlin Halverson
Clifton To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 4:30 PM Subject: [TruthTalk] God and war Looking back on my life as an American citizen, I can remember world war two, the Korean "conflict, the Viet Nam thing, Desert Storm, Panama, Haiti, Bosnia, the Ta

Re: [TruthTalk] God and war

2003-01-26 Thread Marlin Halverson
, to galvanize the reluctant American public into action. - Original Message - From: Terry Clifton To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 4:30 PM Subject: [TruthTalk] God and war "WW two I can understand. We were attacked. It was

Re: [TruthTalk] God and war

2003-01-26 Thread David Miller
Terry wrote: Will someone who has thought this through please give me your findings? Hi Terry. From my perspective, the options appear straight forward. Saddam Hussein is working toward obtaining nuclear weapons in a secretive manner. Given the history he has had with invading Kuwait, and