RE: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-15 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: truthtalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/15/2006 9:11:56 AM Subject: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit. No, "anyone" is not included - only those who come with the right heart attitude. God hides things from the "wise

Re: FW: Re: [TruthTalk] function v office

2006-02-04 Thread knpraise
My personal view is that the First Church committed it's first organizational sin when it confused assingment of task with assingment of position. If "apostleship" is a position, " apostolic succession" is a necessity as is all the “evils” associated with position, maneuverings, the usurp of

Re: FW: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-04 Thread knpraise
Overcoming is of Divine Intervention and not of personal effort. That we partner in this effort is a given --- but God recieves ALL the credit because it is His work that brings the victory. Rev 2:26 is an indicative, not an imperative !! The correct response to these words (Rev 2:26) ,

Re: FW: Re: [TruthTalk] Dualism discussed

2006-02-04 Thread knpraise
Here are some thoughts that figure into our dicussion of dualism. Seems worth sharing. In 1985 I read an excellent article called "Worship: Foundation for Reality" by Steve Robbins, PhD, who was at that time pastor of a Vineyard in Oxnard, California. One of the things he explained was that

RE: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-01-31 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: truthtalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/31/2006 7:08:09 AM Subject: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature? From: "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED]I don't think you are hearing us properly David. WE/I am saying thatChrist did not

Re: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] Differences

2006-01-15 Thread knpraise
Because when we read you, we see a constant effort to misrepresent us and try to catch us in our words just as the scholars and Pharisees did to Jesus. On the other hand, the feedback you give us from how we represent you tells us that we are reading and understanding you just fine. David

Re: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] Differences

2006-01-15 Thread David Miller
@mail.innglory.org Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 8:18 PM Subject: Re: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] Differences Because when we read you, we see a constant effort to misrepresent us and try to catch us in our words just as the scholars and Pharisees did to Jesus. On the other hand, the feedback you give us

Re: FW: Re: [TruthTalk] Catholics and Idols (to Dean)

2006-01-08 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/7/2006 4:10:54 PM Subject: Re: FW: Re: [TruthTalk] Catholics and Idols (to Dean) Dean, Don't get me wrong, here. I do not believe the Catholic Church speaks for God. I am talking

Re: FW: Re: [TruthTalk] Catholics and Idols (to Dean)

2006-01-08 Thread knpraise
No offense taken. jd -- Original message -- From: "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/7/2006 4:10:54 PM Subject: Re: FW: Re: [TruthTalk] Catholics

Re: FW: Re: [TruthTalk] Catholics and Idols (to Dean)

2006-01-07 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/6/2006 10:08:42 PM Subject: Re: FW: Re: [TruthTalk] Catholics and Idols (to Dean) How do you define Idolatry John? If you are the one whom decides whatIdol is or is not-what do you do

Re: FW: Re: [TruthTalk] Catholics and Idols (to Dean)

2006-01-07 Thread Lance Muir
My question, Dean, is where is the RAPTURE in the Bible? My question, Dean, is where is sinless perfection in the Bible...and on - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 07, 2006 10:48 Subject: Re: FW: Re: [TruthTalk

Re: FW: Re: [TruthTalk] Catholics and Idols (to Dean)

2006-01-07 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/7/2006 11:04:55 AM Subject: Re: FW: Re: [TruthTalk] Catholics and Idols (to Dean) My question, Dean, is where is the RAPTURE in the Bible? My question, Dean, is where is sinless perfection

Re: FW: Re: [TruthTalk] Catholics and Idols (to Dean)

2006-01-07 Thread Lance Muir
Sent: January 07, 2006 11:49 Subject: Re: FW: Re: [TruthTalk] Catholics and Idols (to Dean) - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/7/2006 11:04:55 AM Subject: Re: FW: Re: [TruthTalk

Re: FW: Re: [TruthTalk] Catholics and Idols (to Dean)

2006-01-07 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/7/2006 12:09:24 PM Subject: Re: FW: Re: [TruthTalk] Catholics and Idols (to Dean) Let us await Judy's response on this. 'Doctrines of Men'? All you already aware of alternate readings

Re: FW: Re: [TruthTalk] Catholics and Idols (to Dean)

2006-01-07 Thread knpraise
-- From: "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/6/2006 10:08:42 PM Subject: Re: FW: Re: [TruthTalk] Catholics and Idols (to Dean) How do you define Idolatry John? If you are

Re: FW: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2006-01-06 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/5/2006 9:52:26 PM Subject: Re: FW: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross -- Original message -- From: "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Origin

Re: FW: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2006-01-06 Thread Lance Muir
Pray TO? Pray THROUGH? IMO, there is a distinction. - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 06, 2006 08:48 Subject: Re: FW: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross - Original Message - From

Re: FW: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2006-01-06 Thread Judy Taylor
Pray through whom? There is only ONE mediator between God and man. Yet the rcc sanctions the rosary where ppl chant over and over and over "Holy Mary mother of God pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death" So what is THAT all about? On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 08:59:39 -0500 "Lance Muir"

Re: FW: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2006-01-06 Thread Lance Muir
: Re: FW: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross Pray through whom? There is only ONE mediator between God and man. Yet the rcc sanctions the rosary where ppl chant over and over and over "Holy Mary mother of God pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death" So what is THAT

Re: FW: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2006-01-06 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/6/2006 8:59:34 AM Subject: Re: FW: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross Pray TO? Pray THROUGH? IMO, there is a distinction. cd: No, they are the same as the only way to the father is through Jesus Christ-He

Re: FW: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2006-01-06 Thread Lance Muir
I did in another post. No point in repeating. - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 06, 2006 09:24 Subject: Re: FW: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross - Original Message - From: Lance

Re: FW: Re: [TruthTalk] Catholics and Idols (to Dean)

2006-01-06 Thread knpraise
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/5/2006 9:52:26 PM Subject: Re: FW: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross -- Original message -- From: "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk

Re: FW: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2006-01-05 Thread knpraise
Do Catholics think of these statues as "idols.?" Are they not expressions of their faith in God and His Christ? None of the idols of the Message were attached to the Living God. The compaison, Dean, that you make is not a biblical one. jd -- Original message -- From:

Re: FW: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2006-01-05 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk Sent: 1/5/2006 10:13:21 AM Subject: Re: FW: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross Do Catholics think of these statues as "idols.?" Are they not expressions of their faith in God and His Christ? None of

Re: FW: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2006-01-05 Thread knpraise
-- Original message -- From: "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk Sent: 1/5/2006 10:13:21 AM Subject: Re: FW: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross Do Catholics think of these statues

Re: FW: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ as the incarnate God

2006-01-05 Thread knpraise
Wow. A very good post. Thanks jd -- Original message -- From: "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] EarthLink Revolves Around You. - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/5/2006 12:18:07 PM

Re: FW: RE: [TruthTalk]

2005-12-15 Thread knpraise
-- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] I found the response I sent; here it is again. Have a blessed Christmas, iz From: ShieldsFamily [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 6:30 PMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject:

RE: FW: RE: [TruthTalk]

2005-12-15 Thread ShieldsFamily
Sorry if I misread you, jd. iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 9:29 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: FW: RE: [TruthTalk

Re: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:John 16:13,14

2005-07-19 Thread Kevin Deegan
Sent: July 18, 2005 16:37 Subject: Re: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:John 16:13,14 Lance wrote: 'When you equate your statement of the truth with the truth itself, you've already begun to move from the truth.' In an attempt to understand you, let me ask you if this axiom of yours also

Re: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:John 16:13,14

2005-07-18 Thread Kevin Deegan
Correct doctrine is THE FAITH once delivered. Problem is everyone disagrees on what that correct doctrine of THE Faith is. Some care not to find it. --- Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree, doctrines are always divisive. Agreement comes when we yield to the faith once delivered to

Re: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:John 16:13,14

2005-07-18 Thread Judy Taylor
So JD what do you say it is? Perichoresis, TFT, Polyani, Kruger, the "incarnation"? Bill's teachings? jt On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 12:57:46 -0700 (PDT) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Correct doctrine is "THE FAITH" once delivered. Problem is everyone disagrees on what that correct

Re: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:John 16:13,14

2005-07-18 Thread Lance Muir
Subject: Re: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:John 16:13,14 Correct doctrine is THE FAITH once delivered. Problem is everyone disagrees on what that correct doctrine of THE Faith is. Some care not to find it. --- Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree, doctrines are always divisive. Agreement

Re: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:John 16:13,14

2005-07-18 Thread Kevin Deegan
] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: July 18, 2005 15:57 Subject: Re: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:John 16:13,14 Correct doctrine is THE FAITH once delivered. Problem is everyone disagrees on what that correct doctrine of THE Faith is. Some care not to find it. --- Judy Taylor [EMAIL

Re: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:John 16:13,14

2005-07-18 Thread David Miller
Lance wrote: 'When you equate your statement of the truth with the truth itself, you've already begun to move from the truth.' In an attempt to understand you, let me ask you if this axiom of yours also applies to statements made by Jesus Christ concerning the truth. Are you saying that the

Re: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:John 16:13,14

2005-07-18 Thread Kevin Deegan
Sorry he is extremely busy searching for it, and it takes more than a lifetime of study to begin to come to the knowledge of the TRUTH. --- Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So JD what do you say it is? Perichoresis, TFT, Polyani, Kruger, the incarnation? Bill's teachings? jt On

Re: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:John 16:13,14

2005-07-18 Thread Lance Muir
, 2005 16:05 Subject: Re: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:John 16:13,14 So JD what do you say it is? Perichoresis, TFT, Polyani, Kruger, the "incarnation"? Bill's teachings? jt On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 12:57:46 -0700 (PDT) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Correc

Re: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:John 16:13,14

2005-07-18 Thread Judy Taylor
That's interesting Lance, why would you want to chat off line? I thought we were all one big happy family here, you know with relationship and all that... Oh, and I'm not anyone's way to the truth; you have a bookstore full of Bibles - it's when you start doing it that you know whether or

Re: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:John 16:13,14

2005-07-18 Thread David Miller
JD wrote: Not one person on this site believes in doctrines of men. I do not allow a difference of opinion on this issue. I have been led by the Spirit into this statement and cannot, therefore, be wrong. Lance wrote: 'When you equate your statement of the truth with the truth itself,

Re: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:John 16:13,14

2005-07-18 Thread Lance Muir
As to the former, NO! As to the latter, I'd say approximate. - Original Message - From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: July 18, 2005 16:37 Subject: Re: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:John 16:13,14 Lance wrote: 'When you equate your statement

Re: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:John 16:13,14

2005-07-18 Thread Lance Muir
Sent: July 18, 2005 16:54 Subject: Re: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:John 16:13,14 That's interesting Lance, why would you want to chat off line? I thought we were all one big happy family here, you know with relationship and all that... Oh, and I'm not anyone's way to the truth

Re: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:John 16:13,14

2005-07-18 Thread Lance Muir
I always permit people who show themselves 'friendly' to my 'doctrines of men' to be as wacky as they wish! - Original Message - From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: July 18, 2005 16:33 Subject: Re: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:John 16:13,14 JD wrote

Re: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:John 16:13,14

2005-07-18 Thread Judy Taylor
When I quote "scripture" of course it is God's own Word. He wrote it didn't He? Do you think God is capricious Lance? Writing in riddles? Expecting us to obey something he makes it impossible for us to understand? jt On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 17:01:44 -0400 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Re: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:John 16:13,14

2005-07-18 Thread David Miller
Lance, let's dig into this a little deeper, shall we? David Miller wrote: Are you saying that the words of Christ have already begun to move from the truth, just by virtue of the fact that he made a statement of the truth? Lance wrote: NO! David Miller wrote: From your perspective, can

Re: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:John 16:13,14

2005-07-18 Thread David Miller
Lance wrote: I always permit people who show themselves 'friendly' to my 'doctrines of men' to be as wacky as they wish! That's what I figured. Respect of persons / Double Standard. :-( Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt,

RE: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:John 16:13,14

2005-07-18 Thread ShieldsFamily
Subject: Re: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:John 16:13,14 When you find it let us know, but don't you believe it is unknowable? Therefore you will never be able to come to a knowledge of the truth. Is believing that truth is unknowable any less disasterous than being blown from one doctrine into another

Re: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] Street Preaching

2005-01-29 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/29/2005 10:51:24 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: there's an absolute difference betw 'accomodating' ppl (sinners) and 'accomodating' sin, So many legalist cultists miss this point as to render it profound. JD

Fw: Re: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] From the 10/04 Real Simple magazine

2004-09-26 Thread ttxpress
- Forwarded Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 14:18:44 EDT Subject: Re: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] From the 10/04 "Real Simple" magazine Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || Please pass this on to TT...My son was running the so

Re: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul

2004-07-15 Thread ttxpress
"I've been walking forty miles of bad roadIf the bible is right, the world will explodeI've been trying to get as far away from myself as I canSome things are too hot to touchThe human mind can only stand so muchYou can't win with a losing hand" http://bobdylan.com/songs/thingshave.html --

Re: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul

2004-07-14 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 7/13/2004 7:20:19 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We think 'reality' through 'concepts'. True, but there is a reality. J

Re: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul

2004-07-13 Thread ttxpress
so do you On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 05:47:03 -0400 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Satan loves to get hold of our conceptual thinking..

Re: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] I John, my take on it

2004-04-04 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/3/2004 4:04:00 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Artemis of Ephesus Hit the send button on this one, also. John

Re: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] I John, my take on it

2004-04-04 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/3/2004 4:04:00 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Evidently you've already heard all you want about I John. But I'm not convinced you heard all you need. Hence I'm posting this again. Exactly the teaching I have received. Thank you for the effort and time

Re: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] I John, my take on it

2004-04-04 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/4/2004 1:41:35 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Artemis of Ephesus Hit the send button on this one, also. I sent this to judy --- actually I was trying to get it to Bill. Sorry bout that. J

Re: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] I John, my take on it

2004-04-04 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/4/2004 5:46:20 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You'll have to ignore the Greek stuff. My font doesn't make it through the transition. Bill, if you were sending me something, I did not get it. John Smithson

Re: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] FELLOWSHIP (was Dialogue with Mormons)

2004-04-01 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/1/2004 6:19:30 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: He didn't fellowship with any of the disciples before calling them. He said "Come follow me" and they left everything and came. But they did not stop sinning. He did not make THAT a requirement of

Re: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] Help Please

2004-03-31 Thread Kevin Deegan
Which edition of the Nestle/Aland?Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Where in your Nestle/Aland gk interlinear I need Chapter and verse.Please judyt From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 3/31/2004 8:37:08 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can anyone tell me where to

Re: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] knowing Truth

2004-03-31 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 3/31/2004 4:19:27 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I inadvertently learned some things through all this today. jt Sometimes and for some people that is the only avenue of education. Grace John

Re: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] Personal Attacks

2004-03-29 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 3/29/2004 11:20:16 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bill, if you want to discuss issues or ideas fine - but I will not get into strife and wrangling over emotional stuff with you on TT. Judyt should be a writer for Saturday Night Live.

Re: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] Personal Attacks

2004-03-29 Thread Wm. Taylor
Again, Kevin, I am sorry. Again, Kevin, will you forgive me? bill taylor - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 3:46 PM Subject: Re: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] Personal Attacks Maybe it has something to do

Re: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] Personal Attacks

2004-03-29 Thread Kevin Deegan
I never took offense. No problem."Wm. Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Again, Kevin, I am sorry. Again, Kevin, will you forgive me? bill taylor - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 3:46 PM Subject: Re: Fw: Re:

RE: Fw: RE: [TruthTalk] reliability of the HOLY BIBLE

2004-03-16 Thread Kevin Deegan
OK I see you change God's word to suit your theology I did not know you were also a Greek authority, what translating commitees have you been part of? The question is what scripture did Abraham Pharaoh have?David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin wrote: We now know ... that the scriptures

Re: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] tough being a Christian

2004-03-15 Thread Terry Clifton
jt: I'm not arguing the point above but I will say that it is not only difficult, it all but impossible to loveunless we love God first and how does one love Him while dismissing His Word? No one is dismissing God's word. I simply question that you are the only one who understands

Re: Fw: RE: [TruthTalk] reliability of the HOLY BIBLE

2004-03-15 Thread Kevin Deegan
We now know contrary to DAVEM's opinion, that the scriptures did exist before Mount Sinai. Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kevin, you still don't seem to understand the difference between "Scripture" and "the word of God." The word of God is

RE: Fw: RE: [TruthTalk] reliability of the HOLY BIBLE

2004-03-15 Thread David Miller
Kevin wrote: We now know ... that the scriptures did exist before Mount Sinai. No, we do not know that Kevin. You offered some passages suggesting that they indicate Scriptures speaking to Pharaoh and to Abraham. I don't see it that way. I don't know how to discuss it with you, because if

Re: Fw: RE: [TruthTalk] Soul searching.

2004-03-14 Thread Kevin Deegan
I already asked this question of William. Maybe you can get an answer.Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: "Wm. Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>I'm perfectly happy to use "soul" as a word -- don't get me wrong. But let's use it like the Bible does. It's a way of describing personhood in the

Re: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] The Trinity

2004-03-10 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 3/10/2004 4:18:50 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Welcome to TT John Smithson, you write in part: "I am educated by the Word; I am entertained by history." Truly wisdom from above, judyt Hi judyt: i am thinking we agree. Right? God bless and I am

Re: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] The passion of Christ

2004-03-04 Thread Kevin Deegan
Be careful, if you follow the links out. http://www.wayoflife.org/fbns/melgibson-thepassion.html at the end of this article Monica Bellucci, the actress who plays Mary Magdalene in Gibson’s movie, has is a famous pornography star in Italy ( “The Passion of the Christ: An International Hoax,”

Re: Fw: RE: [TruthTalk] Last words on Jesus had the same sinful flesh we have.

2004-03-04 Thread elextech
Nobody ever said Jesus was born with a sin on Him. Nobody is born with another's sin on them. People are born with the fallen nature which we receive from AE. Jesus is God. I have no trouble believing that He could have a sinful nature in His fleshly body and still be holy and sinless.

Re: Fw: RE: [TruthTalk] Last words on Jesus had the same sinful flesh we have.

2004-03-04 Thread Wm. Taylor
Vince, For what it's worth, which seems to be depreciating around here, I agree with you. Please read my post, Please hear me out before ousting me. Bill - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 4:04 PM Subject: Re: Fw: RE

Re: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] The Trinity

2004-03-02 Thread Dave
Judy Taylor wrote: From: Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Judy Taylor wrote: I believe we've discussed this word in the past. It is used of Moses when he stood before Pharoah in place of God and it means judge/magistrate. Same in Ps 82:6. However when satan tells Eve

RE: Fw: RE: [TruthTalk] Last words on Jesus had the same sinful flesh we have.

2004-03-02 Thread Pastor Bob
Hi Judy, Maybe it would be best if we just agree to disagree on this and wait to see how the discussion unfolds. Thanks, Robert Trump From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fw: RE: [TruthTalk] Last words on Jesus had the same sinful flesh

Re: Fw: RE: [TruthTalk] Last words on Jesus had the same sinful flesh we have.

2004-03-02 Thread elextech
I believe it would have been sin rather than fallen flesh that would have disqualified Him to be the atoning sacrafice. His victory over the fallen flesh is part of what qualifies Him to be our perfect high priest (Heb 4:15). vincent j. fulton On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 01:33:16 -0500 Judy Taylor

Re: Fw: RE: [TruthTalk] Last words on Jesus had the same sinful flesh we have.

2004-03-01 Thread Dave
DAVEH: I'm hesitant to jump into another's discussion, but it sure seems to me that the simple answer to this may be realized IF one considers that children may not be born with sinners, but rather they become sinners when they learn to discern right from wrong.and then choose wrong

RE: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] Orwellian LDS

2004-02-02 Thread Charles Perry Locke
Judy, I suspect that the Kinston clan neither recognizes, nor seeks, civil marriages. I would guess they have their own methods of consumamting marital union.Therefore, under the law, they would not be polygamists, and to prosecute them an actual violation of the law, like sex with a minor,

Re: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] Orwellian LDS

2004-02-01 Thread ttxpress
Is it reasonable to take the position, below, Judy, re: K's (Morman) post, but unreasonable to [discuss, as factually/detailed as possible, e.g.,] the immediately following (Evangelical) post(?): http://OzG2004.blogspot.com On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 15:05:55 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What

RE: Fw: RE: [TruthTalk] fyi~g :: 'Tucked Behind the Home Page, a Call to Worship'

2004-01-31 Thread Charles Perry Locke
Judy, Corona, California, is 45 M. ESE of LA in Riverside County. The pastor of Crossroas Church in Corona (California) is Barry McMurtrie. He is a biggie in the church growth moverment, and frequently is a speaker and presenter at church growth conferences around the world. We attended

Re: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] Holy Hubert/Women

2004-01-23 Thread Dave
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Judy wrote: Not only that but women were used in the early Church - from the scriptures themselves we can find deaconesses, teachers, evangelists, and apostles who were female DAVEH: ??? Where do we find female apostles in the Bible? Judy:

Re: Fw: RE: [TruthTalk] I found it Blaine...but you lost it

2003-12-30 Thread bborrow26
On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 15:30:58 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The devil is identified as an Angel of light in the Bible and the book Mormon Doctrine. Blaine: The devil is not identified as an Angel of Light, Kevin, he is identified as PRETENDING to be an Angel of Light.

Re: Fw: RE: [TruthTalk] I found it Blaine...but you lost it

2003-12-29 Thread bborrow26
Kevin wrote: The devil is identified as an Angel of light in the Bible and the book Mormon Doctrine. Blaine Writes: I knew that was going to be your theme song, Kevin. Again, I ask, if you know the answers, why even ask me the questions? Sorry, but I am not going to allow myself to get

Re: Fw: RE: [TruthTalk] I found it Blaine...but you lost it

2003-12-26 Thread Kevin Deegan
Then why do you call Moroni an Angel of light?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin,I assure you the PH was restored on the date given. I used to celebratethis even as a boy, with others who had been ordained to the A PH. Thepriesthood after the order of Aaron as it exists in the LDS church todayhas many

Re: Fw: RE: [TruthTalk] I found it Blaine...but you lost it

2003-12-26 Thread Kevin Deegan
You assure me?I should rest my eternal destiny on your assurance?A slip-up?What if your soul slips through the cracks?Look what a slip-up did to the space shuttle.Who did the slip-up? Joe the prophet or your god?Are these matters important enough to want a full assurance even from external

Re: Fw: RE: [TruthTalk] I found it Blaine...but you lost it

2003-12-24 Thread Kevin Deegan
Blaine: This happened on May 15, 1839. John appeared as an angel of light Interesting that you would give us the date of the bestowing of the LOWER priesthood. Can I look up the account in the local paper of the time? Here is what I really need to know. If this did not happen LDS have NO

Re: Fw: RE: [TruthTalk] I found it Blaine...but you lost it

2003-12-23 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
DaveM wrote: It is a shame because they are teaching them that authority comes from man instead of from God. ** Blaine: Dave, you should know better than tosaythis.You know that"they"(LDS) teach that all authority to act in God's name comes from God--It is called priesthood authority. It

Re: Fw: RE: [TruthTalk] Faux-Christians

2003-12-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
Non-Christians have no right to tell Christians how to behave as Christians. (How would a faux-Christian know???) Izzy I like the faux-Christian idea, wish I thought of it. This makes sense! Should I let SATANISTS tell me how to conduct the Lords ministry? How about INFIDELS? APOSTATES? AGNOSTICS?

Re: Fw: RE: [TruthTalk] I found it Blaine...but you lost it

2003-12-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
**Is the Mormon Temple in SLC a public arena?The actions of some of those who feel the need to be engaged in it may lose this right for all of us. I wrote:Is the above completely honest? (not being interested in converting anyone to a religion or belief)I've seen lots ofnotch counting here and

Re: Fw: RE: [TruthTalk] I found it Blaine...but you lost it

2003-12-22 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/22/2003 4:56:54 PM Subject: Re: Fw: RE: [TruthTalk] I found it Blaine...but you lost it **Is the Mormon Temple in SLC a public arena?The actions of some of those who feel the need to be engaged in it may lose

Re: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] HAPPY YULE DAY!!

2003-12-21 Thread Kevin Deegan
Spirit of Godinspired the apostle Paul to write that we are only to judge ourselves and those within the body of Christ or Church Only to judge ourselves those inside the church Where did you get those limits on your judgement? My BIBLE says 1 Co 2:15 "But he that is spiritual judgeth ALL

Re: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] Faux-Christians

2003-12-21 Thread Kevin Deegan
I am not accusing, do you FEEL accused? Iam simply stating I love getting told how to witness to the Lost by those that NEVER witness to the LOST. It is the wierdest thing! same crowd that says Street preaching does not work. It does not work for them for the same reason hunting never bags me a

Re: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] The Basis of Christian Fellowship

2003-12-21 Thread Kevin Deegan
I am absolutely NOT saying God is unjust. he will Judge people in righteousness. he cast people into hell. i am just saying he shows NO LOVE to those that are in Hell. I am just saying he is a God of love AND a God of Righteous Judgement. One of those judgements is casting people in hell. SMILE

Re: Fw: RE: [TruthTalk] Love or Rebuke?

2003-12-19 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/18/2003 9:44:27 PM Subject: Re: Fw: RE: [TruthTalk] Love or Rebuke? whose sin did the Ap Paul 'stand against'; in the NT, how did hego about it? Dean writes: All manner of sin and he went about it by publicly declaring

Re: Fw: RE: [TruthTalk] Love or Rebuke?

2003-12-19 Thread bborrow26
BlaineRB AMEN!!! On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 14:47:00 -0500 David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dean wrote: I am Commanded to love a believer in Christ - not those of the world nor wordily things- Brother Dean, you know we think alike in many ways. Here is a passage for you to chew on.

RE: Fw: RE: [TruthTalk] Love or Rebuke?

2003-12-18 Thread David Miller
Dean wrote: Do you see any limits to that love? Should I love those mentioned below? Would love be to invite him in-feed him and give him a bed-then why should I send him away as direct in the below passage? Who then is this speaking of? And if we are so strong- why are we directed to not

RE: Fw: RE: [TruthTalk] The False Teacher

2003-12-18 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/17/2003 8:21:56 PM Subject: Fw: RE: [TruthTalk] The False Teacher DIV style=""background: " #cc\?Love them and invite them to you house- or stay away from them? DIV style=""background: " #cc\? DIV

Re: Fw: RE: [TruthTalk] Love or Rebuke?

2003-12-18 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/18/2003 12:06:08 AM Subject: Re: Fw: RE: [TruthTalk] Love or Rebuke? On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 14:47:00 -0500 "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven

Re: Fw: RE: [TruthTalk] Love or Rebuke?

2003-12-18 Thread ttxpress
check out 1 Tim 6 ,Dean--do some more studyin' gentleman On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:24:50 -0500 "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - Original Message - From: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/18/2003 12:06:08 AM Subject:

Re: Fw: RE: [TruthTalk] Love or Rebuke?

2003-12-18 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/18/2003 6:54:06 PM Subject: Re: Fw: RE: [TruthTalk] Love or Rebuke? check out 1 Tim 6 ,Dean--do some more studyin' Dean writes: I see-be meek,quite giving no offence-not act as a fool-as it would seem that you believe I

Re: Fw: RE: [TruthTalk] Love or Rebuke?

2003-12-18 Thread ttxpress
PROTECTED] Sent: 12/18/2003 6:54:06 PM Subject: Re: Fw: RE: [TruthTalk] Love or Rebuke? check out 1 Tim 6 ,Dean--do some more studyin' Dean writes: I see-be meek,quite giving no offence-not act as a fool-as it would seem that you believe I have erred from

Re: Fw: RE: [TruthTalk] Love or Rebuke?

2003-12-18 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/18/2003 7:51:55 PM Subject: Re: Fw: RE: [TruthTalk] Love or Rebuke? Dean, You asked meabout the Ap Paul's love (in this context)--and i'd say, do nothin' different than he suggested to Tim (e.g., ch6/1Tim) Dean writes

Re: Fw: RE: [TruthTalk] Love or Rebuke?

2003-12-18 Thread ttxpress
Subject: Re: Fw: RE: [TruthTalk] Love or Rebuke? Dean, You asked meabout the Ap Paul's love (in this context)--and i'd say, do nothin' different than he suggested to Tim (e.g., ch6/1Tim) Dean writes: The love Paul had was also kindled with a strong sta

Re: Fw: RE: [TruthTalk] Love or Rebuke?

2003-12-17 Thread Kevin Deegan
Judy: How can you care for them and show them the love of Christ without walking in love toward them? Faith cometh by hearing How shall they hear except they preach? What is your answer? Seems like you have a better answer "lifestyle" evangelism? How about "friendship" evangelism? Go ye into

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