[twitter-dev] Re: Additional attribute in share link

2011-05-24 Thread Ken D.
Looks like a 13-digit timestamp - e.g. Python millis()

On May 23, 10:09 pm, Tony House tonyho...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm looking through the FAQ for the tweet button and am not seeing one
 of the attributes listed.
 On the page, the different examples have an underscore and equal and a
 13 digit number (e.g.http://twitter.com/share?_=1306165040196).  It
 looks like the first 10 digits could be a unix timestamp, but I'm not
 100% sure about that.  It also means the three digits at the end (196)
 are something else.
 I couldn't find anything in FAQ, so I'm hoping someone can help.  What
 is this number?
 Thanks.
 Tony

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[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter group API

2011-03-16 Thread Ken D.
er, there might be..

For Group substitute list. Maximum is 500 followers/list.
If they are following you, you can message them.
Where's the problem?

On Mar 15, 9:25 pm, Tim Haines tmhai...@gmail.com wrote:
 No, there's not.

 On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Richard fireston...@gmail.com wrote:
  Does anyone know if there is program available to create several
  groups using one Twitter account and allowing you to message each of
  those groups individually?

  For example -

  Twitter.com/username
     Group 1 (100 followers)
     Group 2 (56 followers)
     Group 3 (77 followers)

  I would like to send separate messages to each of those groups.
  Please let me know if you know of any way to do this via API or a 3rd
  party program.  Thank you.

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[twitter-dev] Re: How to send tweets from multiple accounts without having to login

2011-03-16 Thread Ken D.
You will have stored the tokens for those accounts that you control
and on behalf of which you want to send Tweets. You no longer need to
authenticate via Twitter, just be logged in to your own system.

You can use a form that includes a SELECT tag allowing the choice of
account to use when tweeting. Bear in mind that consistently tweeting
the same tweets from multiple accounts is probably not a very good
idea.

As an aside, re-reading the TOS, I wonder whether this pattern on a
public web site - whereby a user is enabled to send Tweets without
passing the Connect with Twitter step -  requires display of the
end user's Twitter identity, including visible display of the end
user's avatar, Twitter user name, and the Twitter bird mark. (Rules
III.3)


On Mar 16, 8:12 am, Laddi satinderhundal1...@gmail.com wrote:
 HI,

  I have registered application onhttp://dev.twitter.com/. Now please
 tell how to send tweets from multiple accounts without having to
 login.

 Thanks
 satinder singh hundal

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[twitter-dev] Re: Recurring Tweets

2011-03-07 Thread Ken D.
Similarly, I have noticed that an exact duplicate tweet is no longer
systematically rejected.

Our CMS was set up to tweet new content items when they are first
viewed by a visitor. If two visitors view the same new item at nearly
the same time, two tweets are sent. Until recently, one would be
rejected. Now, both are published and we have to delete the duplicate
to avoid looking stupid. This behaviour seems to have changed 1-2
months ago.

On Mar 7, 4:17 pm, Tammy Fennell tammykahnfenn...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi There,

 I was just scanning the twitter automation rule and it doesn't say
 anything about reoccuring scheduled  tweets. I swear it used to say it
 was banned, but has Twitter ammended this now for certain business
 use? Hope so, it's great functionality when used right!

 Best,
 Tammy

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[twitter-dev] Re: Bigger avatar images for users/profile_image/twitter ?

2011-03-07 Thread Ken D.
 Avatars come in three sizes:

         mini = 24x24
         normal = 48x48
         bigger = 73x73
         reasonably_small = 128x128

 http://a3.twimg.com/profile_images/361706538/mk1_mini.jpg
 http://a3.twimg.com/profile_images/361706538/mk1_normal.jpg
 http://a3.twimg.com/profile_images/361706538/mk1_bigger.jpg
 http://a3.twimg.com/profile_images/361706538/mk1_reasonably_small.jpg


The original seems to be available at
http://a3.twimg.com/profile_images/361706538/mk1.jpg

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[twitter-dev] Re: Recurring Tweets

2011-03-07 Thread Ken D.
1537,

I'm not sure you're going to get an official response since the
twitter team will be wanting to prevent abuse.

Basically I was talking about two or more consecutive tweets with char-
for-char the same content. But I believe the guidelines referred to
above warn that near-identical tweets too, if repeated too soon or too
often, could be caught by an anti-spam algorithm. And even if some
perfect formula allowed such tweets to get through, they could be
viewed as spam.

More and more I see the same messages repeated after a few hours or
the next day. I'm free to unfollow or reply, but basically I think it
means I am spending too much time on Twitter...

Ken

On Mar 7, 8:22 pm, 1537 News 1537n...@gmail.com wrote:
 What is considered an Exact Duplicate Tweet?

 On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Ken D. k...@cimas.ch wrote:
  Similarly, I have noticed that an exact duplicate tweet is no longer
  systematically rejected.

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[twitter-dev] Re: POSTs to :user/:list_id/create_all returning HTTP status 404 for all requests

2011-03-03 Thread Ken D.
Mistakes are a fact of life, no excuses necessary. What is hard to
understand is not being able to change a few characters in the
documentation, while developers continue to fall into this silly
trap.

Is the doc generated from the code? Doesn't look like it.

Of course, this documentation bug - and the FAQ about getting a user's
email address, which could also be laid to rest by improving the doc -
keeps this list alive, so I shouldn't complain.

On Mar 3, 7:24 pm, Taylor Singletary taylorsinglet...@twitter.com
wrote:
 There's obviously no good excuse I can tell you for the documentation being
 wrong.

 In this case, the old resource was never deprecated and never existed -- the
 documentation was wrong from the beginning.

 We're very aware of documentation bugs and are actively working towards
 allowing their modification with more fluidity than we have today. Thanks
 for your patience while we get there.

 @episod http://twitter.com/episod - Taylor Singletary - Twitter Developer
 Advocate

 On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 8:21 AM, sferik sfe...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Monday, February 28, 2011 8:05:09 AM UTC-8, Taylor Singletary wrote:
   It's a documentation error at the moment, the proper path is: POST
  :user/:list_id/members/create_all

  When was the old resource deprecated? Were there any other resources that
  changed at the same time? I try to pay close attention to the Twitter API
  Announcements list, but don't recall seeing anything about this. Could you
  direct me to the relevant post?

  I'm disappointed that the documentation is not keeping up with the API. If
  anything, the documentation should be coming ahead of changes, not trailing
  them.

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[twitter-dev] Re: display user's profile image - definitive answer?

2011-02-17 Thread Ken D.
A couple of months ago, the consensus seemed to be to use tweetimag.es
with user id, like so: http://img.tweetimag.es/i/8970972_o

Ken

On Feb 17, 1:16 pm, del del1...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hi All,

 New to the forum, apologies if I'm covering old ground. I've done a
 search but can't find a definitive answer:

 I'm trying to develop a simple page that will display the last 25 of
 my twitter feed. All I want to display is each user's profile image
 (thumbnail) and their tweet. While I am new to this, this seems like a
 basic development task.

 When I access my twitter's json file...

 http://api.twitter.com/statuses/user_timeline/xxxUserdIdxxx.json?coun...

 ... I do indeed get the information I need - except the
 user.profile_image_url is MY profile image?? So I have 25 tweets from
 different users (correct) all displaying my profile image next to them
 (incorrect). Why am I not getting each user's profile image?

 I know I can check the user's profile image 
 viahttp://api.twitter.com/version/users/profile_image/:screen_name.format

 but as that is not the recommended solution due to rate limits what
 should I do?

 Thanks in advance,
 Del

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[twitter-dev] Re: Data-expanded-url attribute

2011-02-15 Thread Ken D.
I have a possibly related problem.

We also use an inhouse shortener that returns a 301 redirect, but
Twitterbot misinterprets the shortened URLs. The usual search engine
bots follow the redirect correctly, as far as I can tell.

Each tweet results in a frenzy of 404s from API users who have
received the incorrect URL. Mousing over the shortened URL on
Twitter.com shows the incorrect URL in the title tooltip. Fortunately
for now, it seems we are not subject to t.co wrapping so the original,
correct short URLs can be clicked by Twitter.com users.

The incorrectly interpreted URL is always the same. We've set it up to
redirect to our home page so all is not lost.

Any ideas what could be going on here?

Thanks, Ken


On Feb 14, 2:04 am, ctrand ctr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Any ideas on this one guys?

 On Feb 10, 4:06 pm, ctrand ctr...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hello,

  I have a bunch of shortened urls which are resolved/redirected to full
  urls by my webapp.

  e.g.

 http://dealush.com/sale/2wml

  resolves to

 http://dealush.com/shopping-sales/2wml/sydney-sale-8-off-at-catwalk-w...

  When I tweet the short URL, sometimes the data-expanded-url attribute
  is populated for the url and when I mouseover it I can see the full
  url. However sometimes it is not populated, and there is no data-
  expanded-url attribute at all!

  I am wondering if anyone can shed some light onto why it would be so.

  I am also thinking that this is affecting the counters on my tweet
  buttons, as tweets that do have an URL with the data-expanded-url
  attribute give a +1 for the counter, and those that do not have a data-
  expanded-url don't.

  Does something need to happen for the data-expanded-url value to
  populate? Or perhaps there something wrong with some of my URLS?

  Note: THe example URL above does have a data-expanded-url value.

  Thanks in advance,

  Carl

  PS - Please let me know if you need any additional information from me
  and it will be forthcoming!

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[twitter-dev] Re: Media Partnerships and Oembed for Twitter's Detail Panel

2011-02-02 Thread Ken D.
Ashley,

While waiting for native support from Twitter, have you checked out
the embed.ly Parrotfish plugin ( http://labs.embed.ly/ ) ?

Grooveshark is one of 160-plus OEmbed-compliant media partners
supported by the plugin. Tweets bearing supported URLs are marked in
the timeline and yes, you'll see Grooveshark content in your Twitter
right pane.

Don't know how many people are using it.

Ken

On Feb 1, 9:38 pm, Ashley Sarver asarv...@gmail.com wrote:
 The purpose of this is to find out a way to use twitter's oembed for
 listen.grooveshark.com links, and embed the media player of a specific
 song when the link is posted. How long does requesting permission for
 a media partnership take, and has anyone had problems requesting a
 partnership? Has anyone atempted to use oembed on twitter, or began
 working with oembed?

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[twitter-dev] Re: Media Partnerships and Oembed for Twitter's Detail Panel

2011-02-02 Thread Ken D.
I just re-enabled the Parrotfish plugin and it's pretty amazing. It's
pulling content from my own website and from just about any URL
mentioned in a Tweet. Goes way beyond the advertised performance.

On Feb 2, 1:26 pm, Tom van der Woerdt i...@tvdw.eu wrote:
 Some Twitter applications (including my own) use embed.ly to display
 content.

 Tom

 On 2/2/11 1:25 PM, Ken D. wrote:

  Ashley,

  While waiting for native support from Twitter, have you checked out
  the embed.ly Parrotfish plugin (http://labs.embed.ly/) ?

  Grooveshark is one of 160-plus OEmbed-compliant media partners
  supported by the plugin. Tweets bearing supported URLs are marked in
  the timeline and yes, you'll see Grooveshark content in your Twitter
  right pane.

  Don't know how many people are using it.

  Ken

  On Feb 1, 9:38 pm, Ashley Sarverasarv...@gmail.com  wrote:
  The purpose of this is to find out a way to use twitter's oembed for
  listen.grooveshark.com links, and embed the media player of a specific
  song when the link is posted. How long does requesting permission for
  a media partnership take, and has anyone had problems requesting a
  partnership? Has anyone atempted to use oembed on twitter, or began
  working with oembed?

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[twitter-dev] Re: statuses missing geo /

2010-11-09 Thread Ken D.
Add Location to your tweets does not actually add a location - good
point, and you are probably not the first to think so. It only enables
your account to accept location information. It is still up to you to
send the geo data.

On Nov 9, 12:23 pm, Andrew Cross. Gna success@gmail.com wrote:
 I am succeeded in integrating the twitter with my web application and
 access the twitter futures.

 Now, I need your help to get the following in the list of my statuses.

   geo /
   coordinates /
   place /

 at the below of the user tags of the tweet status list.

 I have enabled the Tweet Location Add Location to your tweets
 checked to TRUE.

 May I know, do I need to make any other settings to be set in order to
 get the elements filled with the right information.

 Thanking You

 Regards,
 Gna Andrew Cross

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[twitter-dev] Re: #newtwitter direct message UI

2010-11-05 Thread Ken D.
Good points. The order is not random - it's the same each time - just
baffling and useless.

Perhaps we are meant to delete read messages?  A useful 3rd party app
might archive and delete them, leaving only new messages on Twitter
and helping to resolve the rogue app reading dms issue.

On Nov 5, 1:18 am, Jef Poskanzer jef.poskan...@gmail.com wrote:
 The #newtwitter direct message UI sucks.

 - There's no indication on the main UI that you have an unread
 message.  If you miss the email notification you will never notice the
 message.

 - On the DM page, there's no indication of which conversations have
 unread messages, or even the most recent messages.  The conversations
 are presented in random order.

 - When a conversation is displayed, again there is no indication of
 which messages are unread or which is the most recent.  Again they are
 displayed in random order.

 So.  Are there plans to improve it?  Has anyone written their own
 improved version?  Anyone want to collaborate on writing one?
 ---
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[twitter-dev] Re: #newtwitter direct message UI

2010-11-05 Thread Ken D.
Oh great. I just got my first email spam purporting to be a Twitter DM
notification.

On Nov 5, 9:19 am, Ken D. k...@cimas.ch wrote:
 Good points. The order is not random - it's the same each time - just
 baffling and useless.

 Perhaps we are meant to delete read messages?  A useful 3rd party app
 might archive and delete them, leaving only new messages on Twitter
 and helping to resolve the rogue app reading dms issue.

 On Nov 5, 1:18 am, Jef Poskanzer jef.poskan...@gmail.com wrote:

  The #newtwitter direct message UI sucks.

  - There's no indication on the main UI that you have an unread
  message.  If you miss the email notification you will never notice the
  message.

  - On the DM page, there's no indication of which conversations have
  unread messages, or even the most recent messages.  The conversations
  are presented in random order.

  - When a conversation is displayed, again there is no indication of
  which messages are unread or which is the most recent.  Again they are
  displayed in random order.

  So.  Are there plans to improve it?  Has anyone written their own
  improved version?  Anyone want to collaborate on writing one?
  ---
  Jef

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[twitter-dev] Re: Posting to tweeter directly via JS?

2010-11-05 Thread Ken D.
۔
the above Unicode character is the closest I could find to a dot,
without being a dot...

On Nov 5, 11:15 am, Damien thequietdr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello all,

 I am in need of developing a JS manner of making a tweeter post that
 is slightly different from what Twitter already offers (I mean the
 Tweet button).

 THe post I need to make comes under this form:

 Please visit A.BBB using very long URL here

 If I use the Tweet button, the very long URL is shortened (ok) but the
 company name which is close to an URL form is also rewritened as a
 short URL (wrong). I need to have the company name left alone somehow,
 yet keeping the current form A.BBB in plain text (or as a URL, but
 not shortened) as well as the shortened long URL.

 Is there a way to tell twitter to not forcibly shorten an URL that's
 not in full URL format? Or at least mark the first one to be skipped
 from shortening? (I could do this if I would manually shorten the long
 URL, but I cannot do that in my production system, I still need
 Twitter to handle that).

 I need a JS-only solution and until now nothing I tried works.

 Thanks!

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[twitter-dev] Re: Posting to tweeter directly via JS?

2010-11-05 Thread Ken D.
cool, that seems to have worked.

Just that it's a funny character to work with: #1748; - try and
you'll see

Anyway it probably defeats the URL parsing.

On Nov 5, 5:11 pm, Ken D. k...@cimas.ch wrote:
 ۔
 the above Unicode character is the closest I could find to a dot,
 without being a dot...

 On Nov 5, 11:15 am, Damien thequietdr...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hello all,

  I am in need of developing a JS manner of making a tweeter post that
  is slightly different from what Twitter already offers (I mean the
  Tweet button).

  THe post I need to make comes under this form:

  Please visit A.BBB using very long URL here

  If I use the Tweet button, the very long URL is shortened (ok) but the
  company name which is close to an URL form is also rewritened as a
  short URL (wrong). I need to have the company name left alone somehow,
  yet keeping the current form A.BBB in plain text (or as a URL, but
  not shortened) as well as the shortened long URL.

  Is there a way to tell twitter to not forcibly shorten an URL that's
  not in full URL format? Or at least mark the first one to be skipped
  from shortening? (I could do this if I would manually shorten the long
  URL, but I cannot do that in my production system, I still need
  Twitter to handle that).

  I need a JS-only solution and until now nothing I tried works.

  Thanks!

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[twitter-dev] Re: Posting to tweeter directly via JS?

2010-11-05 Thread Ken D.
Try tweeting this:

http://not-a-url۔com

On Nov 5, 11:15 am, Damien thequietdr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello all,

 I am in need of developing a JS manner of making a tweeter post that
 is slightly different from what Twitter already offers (I mean the
 Tweet button).

 THe post I need to make comes under this form:

 Please visit A.BBB using very long URL here

 If I use the Tweet button, the very long URL is shortened (ok) but the
 company name which is close to an URL form is also rewritened as a
 short URL (wrong). I need to have the company name left alone somehow,
 yet keeping the current form A.BBB in plain text (or as a URL, but
 not shortened) as well as the shortened long URL.

 Is there a way to tell twitter to not forcibly shorten an URL that's
 not in full URL format? Or at least mark the first one to be skipped
 from shortening? (I could do this if I would manually shorten the long
 URL, but I cannot do that in my production system, I still need
 Twitter to handle that).

 I need a JS-only solution and until now nothing I tried works.

 Thanks!

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[twitter-dev] Re: Upload image with a tweet

2010-11-04 Thread Ken D.
OK, I tested it for you.

Post a tweet containing the URL of a Flickr image, you get the
preview.
Post a tweet containing the URL of your avatar on Twitter, no preview.

Keep searching, you find somewhere it's been mentioned the media
partners or some such.

On Nov 4, 3:20 pm, fxbois fxb...@gmail.com wrote:
 Any Twitter developper have a clue about this ... I ve searched a lot
 on the web have found nothing

 On Nov 3, 6:27 pm, Ken D. k...@cimas.ch wrote:

  Maybe I'm wrong, but doesn't it have to do with *where* the image is
  hosted? I thought Twitter had a list of recognized rich content
  websites, à la embed.ly.

  On 3 Nov, 18:09, Edward Hotchkiss edw...@edwardhotchkiss.com wrote:

   YOU NEED TO HOST THE IMAGE SOMEWHERE ELSE. Once you upload it  
   somewhere else and have a link to it, there is your preview.

   Best,

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   On Nov 3, 2010, at 4:20 AM, fxbois wrote:

Hi

thanks for your response.

I've tried to include in a tweet the url of an image but I don't have
the image preview when I click on the tweet and I don't have the
little picto (top right corner) that shows that the tweet includes an
image.

I there anything I miss ? Isn't there any hidden param to the
publish method ?

On Nov 2, 7:30 pm, Edward Hotchkiss edw...@edwardhotchkiss.com
wrote:
No, because it needs to be hosted somewhere else. It's just a
shortened link to the pic. You can roll your own.

Best,

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On Nov 2, 2010, at 6:12 AM, fxbois wrote:

Hi,

is there any API that can be used to insert an image in a tweet. I
know that I can use external services like twitpic but I would  
prefer
to use an internal twitter API if it exists.

Thanks in advance

Fx

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[twitter-dev] Re: About catching Twitter user status

2010-11-04 Thread Ken D.
you're right, it's pretty hard to find this information.

It's way down in 4th position of a Google search for Twitter API :
http://dev.twitter.com/doc

On Nov 4, 4:44 am, ESN ihsuanli...@gmail.com wrote:
  HI,

  I am beginner of using twitter api. If I want to collect user status
 from Twitter, what approach should I take?

  How to use java to collect all users status, if I want to use the
 jsp / java with Twitter API.

  Thank you

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[twitter-dev] Re: Suggestion for new feature ..

2010-11-04 Thread Ken D.
Favorite

On Nov 4, 10:17 pm, Ronak Kumar Samantray ronak@gmail.com wrote:
 It would be super-cool to have this feature. Many a times i just skip the
 tweet for future reference, it would cool if i could mark it somehow..

 Ronak Kumar Samantray
 Hyderabad

 Mobile : +91-9347290267
                040-66933916

 On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 2:32 AM, Edward Hotchkiss edw...@edwardhotchkiss.com

  wrote:
  borat, check out hootsuite. this is a list for dev not end-users.

  Best,

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  On Nov 4, 2010, at 12:03 PM, Alexandre E. Knorst wrote:

   Hi Guys !!

  I´m use Twitter for a short time.

  Sometimes I see important tweets attached with movies and URL links,
  but, don´t have time for read on this moment.
  It´s possible mark that tweet for read later ???

  And .. other important feauture will be score for ranking tweets.

  Thanks,

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[twitter-dev] Re: Upload image with a tweet

2010-11-03 Thread Ken D.
Maybe I'm wrong, but doesn't it have to do with *where* the image is
hosted? I thought Twitter had a list of recognized rich content
websites, à la embed.ly.

On 3 Nov, 18:09, Edward Hotchkiss edw...@edwardhotchkiss.com wrote:
 YOU NEED TO HOST THE IMAGE SOMEWHERE ELSE. Once you upload it  
 somewhere else and have a link to it, there is your preview.

 Best,

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 On Nov 3, 2010, at 4:20 AM, fxbois wrote:

  Hi

  thanks for your response.

  I've tried to include in a tweet the url of an image but I don't have
  the image preview when I click on the tweet and I don't have the
  little picto (top right corner) that shows that the tweet includes an
  image.

  I there anything I miss ? Isn't there any hidden param to the
  publish method ?

  On Nov 2, 7:30 pm, Edward Hotchkiss edw...@edwardhotchkiss.com
  wrote:
  No, because it needs to be hosted somewhere else. It's just a
  shortened link to the pic. You can roll your own.

  Best,

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  3KViewDownload

  On Nov 2, 2010, at 6:12 AM, fxbois wrote:

  Hi,

  is there any API that can be used to insert an image in a tweet. I
  know that I can use external services like twitpic but I would  
  prefer
  to use an internal twitter API if it exists.

  Thanks in advance

  Fx

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[twitter-dev] Re: How to display lists from multiple users in an app

2010-11-03 Thread Ken D.
If you own a private list and want to share the content, you just use
your own credentials (My Access Token) to fetch it. Real-time or
cached, whatever works for you. There is no 'logged in' - each API
call is authenticated. How could a user break into your account? A
single web page can display content retrieved from different accounts
- yours and the user's, for example.

On 3 Nov, 18:46, Adam Nason apna...@gmail.com wrote:
 Twitter limits each user account to 20 lists. I have three accounts
 with different purposes but need the 60 lists across these three
 accounts to be displayed on one page on my website. Each list link
 needs to be clickable to the status updates from that list (in that
 same page likely using ajax). They are private lists (created for
 viewing only in the app) and I would like to keep them that way though
 I will take them public if absolutely necessary.

 I'm just the content manager asking this on behalf of the developer so
 I know little about oAuth but this is how it has been explained to me:
 When you request an access token you send Twitter a current timestamp
 and that timestamp is used to make a signature_basestring. With that
 signature, you sign every request you send to Twitter. It's a bit
 tricky not to enter login/pass manually when Twitter asks you to do
 that. And then there is my concern about the security of my accounts
 if they are logged into on a public, live webpage (warranted/
 unwarranted? not sure).

 The developer mentioned that even if we take the lists public, we
 would still need to use oauth/logins to retrieve status updates from
 the lists. What he proposed is doing the oauth/logins process behind
 the scenes periodically during the day (based on cron.php timer) and
 displaying cached messages to users of the app. My preference is to
 display in real-time assuming that I can get the other two accounts
 whitelisted. Only one of the accounts is whitelisted for 20,000
 requests (per hour?).

 So the advice I'm seeking is a bit open-ended as to how proceed from
 here. Private/public lists? Display real-time vs display cached
 version? Security concerns? The developer is still pretty new to the
 API so we're hoping someone can toss us a bone here. Thanks!

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[twitter-dev] Re: How to display lists from multiple users in an app

2010-11-03 Thread Ken D.
I should add you must not use your credentials to display tweets from
protected accounts that your account has access to.

On 3 Nov, 23:21, Ken D. k...@cimas.ch wrote:
 If you own a private list and want to share the content, you just use
 your own credentials (My Access Token) to fetch it. Real-time or
 cached, whatever works for you. There is no 'logged in' - each API
 call is authenticated. How could a user break into your account? A
 single web page can display content retrieved from different accounts
 - yours and the user's, for example.

 On 3 Nov, 18:46, Adam Nason apna...@gmail.com wrote:

  Twitter limits each user account to 20 lists. I have three accounts
  with different purposes but need the 60 lists across these three
  accounts to be displayed on one page on my website. Each list link
  needs to be clickable to the status updates from that list (in that
  same page likely using ajax). They are private lists (created for
  viewing only in the app) and I would like to keep them that way though
  I will take them public if absolutely necessary.

  I'm just the content manager asking this on behalf of the developer so
  I know little about oAuth but this is how it has been explained to me:
  When you request an access token you send Twitter a current timestamp
  and that timestamp is used to make a signature_basestring. With that
  signature, you sign every request you send to Twitter. It's a bit
  tricky not to enter login/pass manually when Twitter asks you to do
  that. And then there is my concern about the security of my accounts
  if they are logged into on a public, live webpage (warranted/
  unwarranted? not sure).

  The developer mentioned that even if we take the lists public, we
  would still need to use oauth/logins to retrieve status updates from
  the lists. What he proposed is doing the oauth/logins process behind
  the scenes periodically during the day (based on cron.php timer) and
  displaying cached messages to users of the app. My preference is to
  display in real-time assuming that I can get the other two accounts
  whitelisted. Only one of the accounts is whitelisted for 20,000
  requests (per hour?).

  So the advice I'm seeking is a bit open-ended as to how proceed from
  here. Private/public lists? Display real-time vs display cached
  version? Security concerns? The developer is still pretty new to the
  API so we're hoping someone can toss us a bone here. Thanks!

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[twitter-dev] Re: Copying or Importing Twitter Lists

2010-11-02 Thread Ken D.
Don't know of any public tool, but as you suggest it won't be hard to
make one.

If you were planning to use the list /create_all method, see this
thread first:
https://groups.google.com/group/twitter-development-talk/browse_thread/thread/8668d4b94d7e0043/eaa833e422b3f4d1

On Nov 2, 7:54 pm, Quy quyten...@gmail.com wrote:
 Is there a tool out there that allows me to copy a Twitter List? For
 example, I've created a new account and wanted to migrate my Twitter
 Lists over to this new account or I want to copy an existing public
 Twitter List and edit it to my liking.

 I'm thinking of creating a simple tool using the Twitter API but will
 this hit any rate limiting if this is a public tool?

 Quy

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[twitter-dev] Re: Creating a list without description silently fails (on website as wel as using API

2010-10-06 Thread Ken D.
In my app, the list names are quite descriptive, so until this gets
fixed - and I think it will be -  I send description=name which makes
some sense as the originally input name is transformed (loss of
capitals and special characters) and does not appear in the Twitter UI
anyway.

On Oct 6, 1:06 am, Bert Lagaisse bert.lagai...@virtual-remote.com
wrote:
 Posted ;-)

 I hadn't run my unittests for my upcoming WP7 twitter client in two
 weeks. Just ran them again and discovered this feature ;-)
 I now force the user to enter a description ;-)

 greets

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[twitter-dev] Re: user details

2010-10-06 Thread Ken D.
Just a wild guess. Try this:
import oauth.oauth as oauth

On Oct 6, 2:22 pm, ashwin morey ashwinmo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi All,

 I have a python file and I am running it through command line. But it keeps
 giving error here

 CONSUMER = oauth.OAuthConsumer(CONSUMER_KEY, CONSUMER_SECRET)
 AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'OAuthConsumer'

 whereas it works when trying to run it through web application.

 thanks
     ashy

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[twitter-dev] Re: Creating a list without description silently fails (on website as wel as using API

2010-10-05 Thread Ken D.
Nice find! This is recent, a day or two.

There is confusion elsewhere in the doc regarding optional parameters,
For example, in DELETE :user/lists/:id, id is said to be optional.

If this also fails in the Twitter UI there is hope that it will be
fixed soon.

For now Bert, this bug is yours:
http://code.google.com/p/twitter-api/issues/entry

Ken

On Oct 5, 10:08 pm, Bert Lagaisse bert.lagai...@virtual-remote.com
wrote:
 Whenever I create a list, using the twitter.com website, or using the
 api, and I dont' give a description (which is marked optional in the
 api), then the list is not created. However, there is no error
 message.
 This bug can only have been introduced in the last weeks I think.

 Any one else with this problem ?

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[twitter-dev] Re: add list members

2010-10-04 Thread Ken D.
Cool. You could visit the tracker page for this issue,
http://code.google.com/p/twitter-api/issues/detail?id=1884 and star
the issue to help get it fixed sooner. This has got to be one of the
easiest Twitter bugs to fix.

Ken

On Oct 3, 6:08 pm, Damon Clinkscales sca...@pobox.com wrote:
 On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 9:25 AM, Ken D. k...@cimas.ch wrote:
  Damon,

  Mea culpa! There's an error in the create_all documentation. I should
  know since I filed the bug...

  Try:http://api.twitter.com/1/:user/:list/members/create_all.format

  Afaik,http://api.twitter.com/1/:user/:list/members.xmlis correct for
  adding a single user.

  Ken

 Hey Ken,

 That was it exactly.  The create_all works perfectly now.

 Thanks!
 /damon

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[twitter-dev] Re: add list members

2010-10-03 Thread Ken D.
Damon,

Mea culpa! There's an error in the create_all documentation. I should
know since I filed the bug...

Try: http://api.twitter.com/1/:user/:list/members/create_all.format

Afaik, http://api.twitter.com/1/:user/:list/members.xml is correct for
adding a single user.

Ken

On Oct 3, 3:41 pm, Damon Clinkscales sca...@pobox.com wrote:
 On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Ken D. k...@cimas.ch wrote:
  Hey Damon,

  The URL you cite is that of the documentation page. The correct URL
  (for create_all) is:

 http://api.twitter.com/1/:user/:list/create_all.xml

  with parameter user_id=:ids or screen_name=:screen_names

  The example is:
 http://api.twitter.com/1/twitterapidocs/firemen/create_all.xml?user_i...

  Try that..

 Hey Ken,

 Yeah, I was just including those URLs to let you know which methods I
 was talking about in the documentation.

 The call being generated by the client lib (Grackle, in this case)
 should look as you describe, afaik.  But there must be something amiss
 with it.

 Thanks,
 /damon

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[twitter-dev] Re: Comparing Friendship

2010-10-02 Thread Ken D.
Interesting! - thanks for sharing. As they say, one man's terrorist is
another man's freedom fighter.

I've just been followed by someone selling business cards. They are
following 51,000 and are followed by 54,000. Well, I doubt they are
reading many of those tweets, they are too busy selling business
cards. Their own stream consists of recycled aphorisms and I doubt
many people are reading that. Funnily, three people we follow also
follow them, but this can only be due to auto-following. It's all
meaningless, and worse, it's a waste of resources. When Twitter is
having capacity issues I can't help but think of that.

It's also too bad when one's following list is just a mirror of one's
followers, because following lists can be a great source of new
accounts to follow. The list of accounts we follow is likely to
interest our followers, and we now make it available as a Twitter list
that can be followed. My observation is that carefully curated
followings are the best lists on Twitter. We'll soon be releasing our
tool that lets anyone grab a following and make a followable list from
it. Of course, the following has to be less than 500, but that's about
the maximum number of accounts I could follow...

On Sep 30, 5:19 pm, D. Smith emai...@sharedlog.com wrote:
 It's important to unfollow someone who unfollowed you. I must
 emphasize here that I am not talking about unfollowing someone who is
 not following me, but only those who used to follow me, then
 unfollowed. In this case it's very important to unfollow them right
 away. This is important because otherwise the schemers that follow
 you, then get a follow-back and then unfollow you win.
 Remember kids: if you don't auto unfollow-back that the terrorists
 will win.

 And that's not a good thing. Also if you want to follow over 2000
 people you must keep you following/followers ratio really tight and
 that's why I would need to unfollow people who are not following me
 back. It's really simple.

 There are good ways to follow and read messages from many thousands of
 people. One way is to separate them by lists and then read lists
 instead of your main timeline. second way is to you other third party
 clients that lets you filter by keywords and stuff like that.

 I want to follow people with common interests and that common interest
 happens to be I am interested in following people who follow back

 When I follow someone I basically giving that person a chance to sell
 me something. I say, fine, but you give me a chance to sell you
 something too. I may still follow a few accounts that are so important
 to me that I will follow them even though I know they don't follow
 back, but that's just a handful of people.

 On Sep 28, 12:03 pm, Ken D. k...@cimas.ch wrote:

  Hey Rick,

  It's the second time in a week that someone brings up the autofollow/
  unfollow question (see 
  also:http://groups.google.com/group/twitter-development-talk/msg/b7b1dfbf6...)
  and I would love to understand the follow economy once and for all.

  First of all, you say that if someone is following you, you will
  follow back, but if they are not following, you will unfollow. If you
  are not yet following them, do you mean that you would block them?

  What is the use case for auto-following, and why would it be so
  important to unfollow users who do not follow back? Is there a cost?
  Are those users' tweets less interesting if they aren't following you?
  I mean, we can't all be followed by Justin Bieber! Personally, I'm
  over that...

  If one succeeds in building up an account that follows and is followed
  back by thousands of users - as seems to be the goal - does one ever
  actually visit the account? It can't possibly make any sense to access
  such an account via twitter.com. Are there tools that can render such
  an account usable or meaningful? Finally, why the pretense of
  following if one will never actually read the users' tweets? Does
  Twitter have in mind to adapt the system to this reality?

  This is not a rant, I sincerely want to know!

  On Sep 28, 4:34 pm, Rick Stuivenberg rickstuivenb...@gmail.com
  wrote:

   Hello,

   What are the oauth functions to check if somebody is following me or
   not? I am currently making a script to check up if a user is following
   me, and if so, following them back, and if not, unfollow the user.

   Can somebody give me a point in the direction what oauth functions I
   need?

   btw; I am using twitteroauth.

   Rick

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[twitter-dev] Re: add list members

2010-10-02 Thread Ken D.
Hey Damon,

The URL you cite is that of the documentation page. The correct URL
(for create_all) is:

http://api.twitter.com/1/:user/:list/create_all.xml

with parameter user_id=:ids or screen_name=:screen_names

The example is:
http://api.twitter.com/1/twitterapidocs/firemen/create_all.xml?user_id=783214,6253282

Try that..

On Oct 2, 8:16 pm, Damon Clinkscales sca...@pobox.com wrote:
 I've tried both create_all.xml and members.xml to add multiple or just
 one member to a list.  The list is owned by me and exists.

 http://dev.twitter.com/doc/post/:user/:list_id/create_all
 orhttp://dev.twitter.com/doc/post/:user/:list_id/members

 When the call goes through, the response is a normal #newtwitter web
 page instead of an API response.

 Is this a known issue?

 thanks,
 /damon

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[twitter-dev] Re: List-related weirdnesses

2010-09-30 Thread Ken D.
I resolved this problem by adding a few seconds of sleep after
creating a list and populating it. The problem did not appear when I
first tested my code, but it was morning European time and Twitter may
not have been too busy.

In the process of finding this out, I seem to have created some
corrupt lists that cannot be edited or deleted.

May I ask someone from Twitter to kindly contact me to help get these
lists removed from my account!

Thanks!

Ken


On Sep 29, 9:33 pm, Ken D. k...@cimas.ch wrote:
 I am creating private lists and then adding members with the
 create_all method.

 1.) Creating a list via the API is no problem. Then I post to
 create_all with batches of 20-90 user ids. Only rarely have I been
 able to add more than a single batch, even with a few seconds of
 sleep, but occasionally it has succeeded.

 2.) Viewing the result on 'old' 
 twitter.com,http://twitter.com/#list/[account]/[list-name]
 will show a timeline (eg a batch of 20 users successfully added) and a
 link, Following: 0. On the list page 
 itself,http://twitter.com/[account]/[list-name],
 no tweets are shown, only the Find people to add to your list:
 search box.

 3.) And... I am unable to delete these lists, using either the API or
 manually on Twitter.com.

 Oh, and one more thing: If I try to add (via API) a list named
 mylist twice and I already have say 12 lists, the second mylist
 will not be called mylist-2, but mylist-13!

 Are these known issues? I am working on a project where lists are
 important, so any advice will be appreciated.

 Cheers!

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[twitter-dev] Re: List-related weirdnesses

2010-09-30 Thread Ken D.
Hey Taylor,

These lists are zombies.

Through Twitter.com, I have failed to change the status from private
to public, change the name or add a member. When I select a member to
add from the find people search, then user-actions list-menu button,
it appears to have worked: the Your lists: list-name tag appears
below the selected user. But the action has actually failed - the list
page shows no members.

Attempting to add a member via the API, I get an XML list element
with member_count0/member_count. Attempting to delete the list via
the API returns the same list... undead!

Ken


On Sep 30, 10:30 pm, Taylor Singletary taylorsinglet...@twitter.com
wrote:
 Hey Ken,

 Lists really are a sometimes embarrassing corner of the API, not going
 to mince words there.

 What is the type of failure you're getting when deleting the lists via the 
 API?

 A lingering bug around is that lists without users often cannot be
 deleted correctly. If you're still having this problem, can you try
 adding a user to a list you haven't been able to delete and then try
 the deletion?

 Your batch creation problems do seem to be more availability-bound
 than anything else.

 As for the seemingly-chaotic naming convention of duplicately named
 lists: yes, it boggles the mind. Best to just make sure you check the
 names of lists a member already has before attempting to create a new
 one at this time.

 Taylor

 On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Ken D. k...@cimas.ch wrote:
  I resolved this problem by adding a few seconds of sleep after
  creating a list and populating it. The problem did not appear when I
  first tested my code, but it was morning European time and Twitter may
  not have been too busy.

  In the process of finding this out, I seem to have created some
  corrupt lists that cannot be edited or deleted.

  May I ask someone from Twitter to kindly contact me to help get these
  lists removed from my account!

  Thanks!

  Ken

  On Sep 29, 9:33 pm, Ken D. k...@cimas.ch wrote:
  I am creating private lists and then adding members with the
  create_all method.

  1.) Creating a list via the API is no problem. Then I post to
  create_all with batches of 20-90 user ids. Only rarely have I been
  able to add more than a single batch, even with a few seconds of
  sleep, but occasionally it has succeeded.

  2.) Viewing the result on 'old' 
  twitter.com,http://twitter.com/#list/[account]/[list-name]
  will show a timeline (eg a batch of 20 users successfully added) and a
  link, Following: 0. On the list page 
  itself,http://twitter.com/[account]/[list-name],
  no tweets are shown, only the Find people to add to your list:
  search box.

  3.) And... I am unable to delete these lists, using either the API or
  manually on Twitter.com.

  Oh, and one more thing: If I try to add (via API) a list named
  mylist twice and I already have say 12 lists, the second mylist
  will not be called mylist-2, but mylist-13!

  Are these known issues? I am working on a project where lists are
  important, so any advice will be appreciated.

  Cheers!

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[twitter-dev] Re: List-related weirdnesses

2010-09-30 Thread Ken D.
Zut alors...

Would it not be preferable to create an issue in the tracker as API-
related? I'd be interested in learning what happened. And maybe I can
get some help removing those lists... So far my research indicates
that to kill a zombie you need to destroy its brain...

HTH

Ken


On Sep 30, 11:29 pm, Taylor Singletary taylorsinglet...@twitter.com
wrote:
 Ken,

 Bizarre. While I expect a certain amount of List bugginess on a daily
 basis, this is a bit more severe than usual.

 And also outside of where I can help you to any level of satisfaction.

 Hate to pass the buck, but please re-summarize the issues that lead to
 this zombie state, along with the specific lists in a support ticket
 athttp://bit.ly/twicket

 Blargh,
 Taylor

 On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Ken D. k...@cimas.ch wrote:
  Hey Taylor,

  These lists are zombies.

  Through Twitter.com, I have failed to change the status from private
  to public, change the name or add a member. When I select a member to
  add from the find people search, then user-actions list-menu button,
  it appears to have worked: the Your lists: list-name tag appears
  below the selected user. But the action has actually failed - the list
  page shows no members.

  Attempting to add a member via the API, I get an XML list element
  with member_count0/member_count. Attempting to delete the list via
  the API returns the same list... undead!

  Ken

  On Sep 30, 10:30 pm, Taylor Singletary taylorsinglet...@twitter.com
  wrote:
  Hey Ken,

  Lists really are a sometimes embarrassing corner of the API, not going
  to mince words there.

  What is the type of failure you're getting when deleting the lists via the 
  API?

  A lingering bug around is that lists without users often cannot be
  deleted correctly. If you're still having this problem, can you try
  adding a user to a list you haven't been able to delete and then try
  the deletion?

  Your batch creation problems do seem to be more availability-bound
  than anything else.

  As for the seemingly-chaotic naming convention of duplicately named
  lists: yes, it boggles the mind. Best to just make sure you check the
  names of lists a member already has before attempting to create a new
  one at this time.

  Taylor

  On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Ken D. k...@cimas.ch wrote:
   I resolved this problem by adding a few seconds of sleep after
   creating a list and populating it. The problem did not appear when I
   first tested my code, but it was morning European time and Twitter may
   not have been too busy.

   In the process of finding this out, I seem to have created some
   corrupt lists that cannot be edited or deleted.

   May I ask someone from Twitter to kindly contact me to help get these
   lists removed from my account!

   Thanks!

   Ken

   On Sep 29, 9:33 pm, Ken D. k...@cimas.ch wrote:
   I am creating private lists and then adding members with the
   create_all method.

   1.) Creating a list via the API is no problem. Then I post to
   create_all with batches of 20-90 user ids. Only rarely have I been
   able to add more than a single batch, even with a few seconds of
   sleep, but occasionally it has succeeded.

   2.) Viewing the result on 'old' 
   twitter.com,http://twitter.com/#list/[account]/[list-name]
   will show a timeline (eg a batch of 20 users successfully added) and a
   link, Following: 0. On the list page 
   itself,http://twitter.com/[account]/[list-name],
   no tweets are shown, only the Find people to add to your list:
   search box.

   3.) And... I am unable to delete these lists, using either the API or
   manually on Twitter.com.

   Oh, and one more thing: If I try to add (via API) a list named
   mylist twice and I already have say 12 lists, the second mylist
   will not be called mylist-2, but mylist-13!

   Are these known issues? I am working on a project where lists are
   important, so any advice will be appreciated.

   Cheers!

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[twitter-dev] List-related weirdnesses

2010-09-29 Thread Ken D.
I am creating private lists and then adding members with the
create_all method.

1.) Creating a list via the API is no problem. Then I post to
create_all with batches of 20-90 user ids. Only rarely have I been
able to add more than a single batch, even with a few seconds of
sleep, but occasionally it has succeeded.

2.) Viewing the result on 'old' twitter.com, 
http://twitter.com/#list/[account]/[list-name]
will show a timeline (eg a batch of 20 users successfully added) and a
link, Following: 0. On the list page itself, 
http://twitter.com/[account]/[list-name],
no tweets are shown, only the Find people to add to your list:
search box.

3.) And... I am unable to delete these lists, using either the API or
manually on Twitter.com.

Oh, and one more thing: If I try to add (via API) a list named
mylist twice and I already have say 12 lists, the second mylist
will not be called mylist-2, but mylist-13!

Are these known issues? I am working on a project where lists are
important, so any advice will be appreciated.

Cheers!


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[twitter-dev] Re: Comparing Friendship

2010-09-28 Thread Ken D.
Hey Rick,

It's the second time in a week that someone brings up the autofollow/
unfollow question (see also: 
http://groups.google.com/group/twitter-development-talk/msg/b7b1dfbf6500ab83)
and I would love to understand the follow economy once and for all.

First of all, you say that if someone is following you, you will
follow back, but if they are not following, you will unfollow. If you
are not yet following them, do you mean that you would block them?

What is the use case for auto-following, and why would it be so
important to unfollow users who do not follow back? Is there a cost?
Are those users' tweets less interesting if they aren't following you?
I mean, we can't all be followed by Justin Bieber! Personally, I'm
over that...

If one succeeds in building up an account that follows and is followed
back by thousands of users - as seems to be the goal - does one ever
actually visit the account? It can't possibly make any sense to access
such an account via twitter.com. Are there tools that can render such
an account usable or meaningful? Finally, why the pretense of
following if one will never actually read the users' tweets? Does
Twitter have in mind to adapt the system to this reality?

This is not a rant, I sincerely want to know!

On Sep 28, 4:34 pm, Rick Stuivenberg rickstuivenb...@gmail.com
wrote:
 Hello,

 What are the oauth functions to check if somebody is following me or
 not? I am currently making a script to check up if a user is following
 me, and if so, following them back, and if not, unfollow the user.

 Can somebody give me a point in the direction what oauth functions I
 need?

 btw; I am using twitteroauth.

 Rick

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