[twitter-dev] Basic Auth deprecation August 16th?

2010-07-28 Thread chinaski007
Any word on if this is still planned? Any further extensions? Or is the drop-dead deadline still August 16th?

[twitter-dev] Re: Social Graph API: Legacy data format will be eliminated 1/11/2010

2009-12-29 Thread chinaski007
Why is Twitter announcing a major API change over the holidays? Why are they giving us just a few (mostly holiday!) days to account for it? Please either a) preserve the existing calls, or b) give us a 3 month window before deprecating. This is a new API change. Given that many have commented

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Update, 8/9 noon PST

2009-08-10 Thread chinaski007
Yes, I am also having x-ratelimit not show up after I have received "OK: 200" errors. I believe this is due to timeout issues. Specifically, I often find that I am returned partial JSON (lack of closing syntax) without the ratelimit header, e.g.: '_rc' => 200, '_headers' => bless( { 'connectio

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Update, 8/9 noon PST

2009-08-09 Thread chinaski007
I am still getting these bizarre "OK: 200" errors with returned content like... "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd";> --> On Aug 9, 12:35 pm, Dewald Pretorius wrote: > Ryan, > > Are there any new requirements we have to comply with for calls to the > Search API? > > I presume we

[twitter-dev] Re: The silence is deafening....

2009-08-09 Thread chinaski007
n't need > any more distractions or you checking up on them. Call that > non-transparent if you wish; I call it letting them get their job > done. > > We have top men working on it right now. Top. Men. > > Thanks you, as always, for your continued patience in the matter.

[twitter-dev] Re: The silence is deafening....

2009-08-09 Thread chinaski007
See here: http://groups.google.com/group/twitter-development-talk/browse_thread/thread/acdcb4baf76037c8/d5f4d4204b65d617#d5f4d4204b65d617 On Aug 9, 12:17 am, Bill Kocik wrote: > I remember seeing "200 errors" somewhere, but I didn't read the > details. 200 means status okay, what's the indica

[twitter-dev] Re: The silence is deafening....

2009-08-09 Thread chinaski007
My point was that my browsing of the tweetstreams of the Twitter engineers I am familiar with, ops and otherwise, reveals another normal weekend, with all the loveliness that the Bay Area has to offer... and while there may be a bunch of Keebler elves drinking coffee and working hard, I don't see

[twitter-dev] Re: The silence is deafening....

2009-08-09 Thread chinaski007
Yep, for sure. And maybe the rash of new 200 errors, and OAuth errors, etc, are not under the purview of API (though I would doubt it). But, at the very least, it's over another, what, 48 hours since the last official update. And those developer updates are presumably the responsibility of API

[twitter-dev] Re: The silence is deafening....

2009-08-08 Thread chinaski007
And, by the way, if you're a deckhand on a submarine going down, you think you would go to a movie because it's your time off, or do whatever you can to help out? On Aug 8, 11:47 pm, chinaski007 wrote: > Part of it is DDOS response, part of it is API issues... as one of the &

[twitter-dev] Re: The silence is deafening....

2009-08-08 Thread chinaski007
Part of it is DDOS response, part of it is API issues... as one of the updates most recently noted with the "known issues" list. On Aug 8, 11:42 pm, Bill Kocik wrote: > On Aug 9, 2:28 am, chinaski007 wrote: > > > You're wrong. > > > If you check the tweets

[twitter-dev] Re: The silence is deafening....

2009-08-08 Thread chinaski007
You're wrong. If you check the tweets of the other main Twitter developers, you will see that they are doing sushi, rock concerts, weddings, watching movies on Saturday afternoon, etc. And while "getting married" is certainly a legitimate excuse, some of the other activities, during this major

[twitter-dev] Re: The silence is deafening....

2009-08-08 Thread chinaski007
As other media have noted, when Twitter goes down, people swap to FriendFeed, Facebook, etc. The same thing happens when Twitter apps go down. The problem with this outage is that it largely effects third-party Web-based apps. And so when our apps go down, for whatever reason, people swap to de

[twitter-dev] Re: Error code: 200, "OK: 200" ... what is it?

2009-08-08 Thread chinaski007
(Okay, in those I am seeing a header with "read timeout"... the empty ones are still coming fast and furious.) On Aug 8, 8:59 pm, chinaski007 wrote: > I am now getting "OK: 200" errors after requesting, e.g., friends > ids.  The response returned is the 200 error

[twitter-dev] Re: Error code: 200, "OK: 200" ... what is it?

2009-08-08 Thread chinaski007
tive answer from them. > -Chad > > On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 9:10 PM, chinaski007 wrote: > > > Now getting a ton of these errors... empty body, and nothing > > meaningful in headers. > > > What are they?? > >

[twitter-dev] Error code: 200, "OK: 200" ... what is it?

2009-08-08 Thread chinaski007
Now getting a ton of these errors... empty body, and nothing meaningful in headers. What are they??

[twitter-dev] Re: 408 Request Timeout on oAuth Calls to API

2009-08-08 Thread chinaski007
I should have taken my own advice when I ranted about Basic Auth being far more reliable than OAuth. On Aug 8, 3:37 pm, Josh Roesslein wrote: > Oauth has been on and off through out this DoS attack. Sometimes it work > sometimes not. > Only work around right now is to fall back to basic auth. I

[twitter-dev] Re: The silence is deafening....

2009-08-08 Thread chinaski007
If Twitter.com itself were down, you know that they would stay there until it was back up. But since it is just a large number of third party apps that are down... well, hey, it's a weekend in August! Grrr. On Aug 8, 4:55 pm, Dossy Shiobara wrote: > Seriously, anyone who has worked an Ops gig

[twitter-dev] Re: DDoS update: Friday 8PM PDT

2009-08-07 Thread chinaski007
Thanks for the update... keep 'em comin! On Aug 7, 9:53 pm, Dusty wrote: > Thank you for the update! Totally appreciate the candidness. > > On Aug 7, 11:38 pm, "Michael E. Carluen" wrote: > > > Chad, > > > As its been already said but deserves another mention... THANK YOU for the > > unsugar-c

[twitter-dev] Re: requesting update from Twitter before weekend?

2009-08-07 Thread chinaski007
Aug 7, 7:58 pm, chinaski007 wrote: > Frustrating.  The last official status update on the API issue was 10 > hours ago.  I would like to be able to update our app's users of > SOMETHING other than "Twitter says they are working on it".  I am not > touching our code to

[twitter-dev] Re: requesting update from Twitter before weekend?

2009-08-07 Thread chinaski007
Frustrating. The last official status update on the API issue was 10 hours ago. I would like to be able to update our app's users of SOMETHING other than "Twitter says they are working on it". I am not touching our code to handle all the new hoops on the assumption that those requirements will

[twitter-dev] requesting update from Twitter before weekend?

2009-08-07 Thread chinaski007
Hey guys: Any chance you can fill us in on what's happening? Can we restart crons? Is there an ETA for a solution? Will work on this continue through the weekend? Cheers...

[twitter-dev] Re: Rate limits: 20k -> 150 - known issue

2009-08-07 Thread chinaski007
My IPs quickly go back to 20k/hour if I turn off cron jobs. When I turn on cron jobs (and thus do a large number of API calls), the IPs quickly descend into 150/hour hell.

[twitter-dev] Whitelisted IPs blocked for 12+ hours

2009-08-07 Thread chinaski007
Okay, my high-volume app has been dead in the water for the past 12 hours. My formerly whitelisted IPs have been limited to 150 calls. API calls ARE getting through... but are limited to 150/hour rather than 20k/hour. This suggests to me that the problem is on Twitter's side (rather than with

[twitter-dev] Re: Gardenhose API

2009-08-06 Thread chinaski007
My whitelisted IPs were 20k limit, then blocked, then 20k limit, and now blocked again. Can't you somehow sync the API whitelist ips with the host? On Aug 6, 11:18 pm, John Kalucki wrote: > The DDoS continues. Your stream could dry up due to any number of > network components hitting saturatio

[twitter-dev] Re: rate limit has reverted from 20000 to 150 for my IPs...

2009-08-06 Thread chinaski007
Okay, IPs now appear to be back to 20k. On Aug 6, 1:51 pm, Haewoon wrote: > me, too. > > In my case, one of 10 IPs has reverted. > > On Aug 7, 5:43 am, chinaski007 wrote: > > > Even worse... IPs are showing 0/150 remaining hits constantly, thus > > bringing my

[twitter-dev] rate limit has reverted from 20000 to 150 for my IPs...

2009-08-06 Thread chinaski007
UGH! All of my whitelisted IPs have reverted from 20k/hour limit to a 150/hour limit. Anyone else?? What the heck?!

[twitter-dev] Re: rate limit has reverted from 20000 to 150 for my IPs...

2009-08-06 Thread chinaski007
Even worse... IPs are showing 0/150 remaining hits constantly, thus bringing my app to a total HALT. On Aug 6, 1:39 pm, chinaski007 wrote: > UGH!  All of my whitelisted IPs have reverted from 20k/hour limit to a > 150/hour limit. > > Anyone else?? > > What the heck?!

[twitter-dev] Re: Help with my rate limit issue?

2009-07-28 Thread chinaski007
There is no direct way to do this, no. But you might be able to accomplish the same thing in an interesting way. Create a new Twitter account that exclusively follows users of your app. When you request statuses/friends for that new account, you will get current information and most recent twe

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter counts wrong the number of followers

2009-07-28 Thread chinaski007
If I understand your problem correctly, I believe this is already a known issue that Twitter is working on. See here: http://code.google.com/p/twitter-api/issues/detail?id=846&colspec=ID%20Stars%20Type%20Status%20Priority%20Owner%20Summary%20Opened%20Modified%20Component

[twitter-dev] Re: OAUTH: Basic Auth is simpler/more reliable/more secure/better received than OAuth!?

2009-07-28 Thread chinaski007
ur Oauth Implementation, Mine's been working steadily > > > > with no hiccups: Lot's of very solid implementations out there. > > > > > As far as the user sign-up problem, Yeah, I agree, It's a bit of a > > > > scare for the user to have

[twitter-dev] Re: URI Escape fix for OAuth - correct usage of uri_escape() with Perl

2009-07-28 Thread chinaski007
If you are using Net::Twitter in Perl, the developer released a new release today that now correctly handles OAuth and Unicode-related issues. http://search.cpan.org/dist/Net-Twitter/ On Jul 28, 3:21 pm, Scott Carter wrote: > This post is geared toward Perl implementations of OAuth, though it

[twitter-dev] Re: Stats on what % of users complete the oauth flow

2009-07-28 Thread chinaski007
When you say 95%, do you derive that percentage from the number of people who click on "access via OAuth" (or whatever) and then "Allow" the authorization? Or do you mean 95% of the unauthenticated who visit your particular page authenticate via OAuth? On Jul 28, 1:08 pm, jmathai wrote: > I wa

[twitter-dev] Re: twitter api server seems to be down (getting invalid signature) since 5.15 pm pst

2009-07-28 Thread chinaski007
Ugh, terrible situation here. Things working 99.9% of the time now with Perl. But we continue to get bizarre intermittent errors that span the range of API calls. We are thinking that internal hash re- ordering may invalidate signatures, but that is just speculation.

[twitter-dev] Re: OAUTH: Basic Auth is simpler/more reliable/more secure/better received than OAuth!?

2009-07-28 Thread chinaski007
> OAuth IS unfamiliar, YES. OAuth DOES ask more of the user, YES. So what's the upside for the third-party developer? In terms of security, we've already seen how OAuth-like applications in, e.g., Facebook have led to massive hacker/phishing/etc problems. While OAuth solves one leg of the secu

[twitter-dev] Re: OAUTH: Basic Auth is simpler/more reliable/more secure/better received than OAuth!?

2009-07-28 Thread chinaski007
e "friends" in Nigeria that are > willing to send them money? > > I think that is the statistical significance to which TjL was referring. At > least, I hope so. > > > > On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 12:12, chinaski007 wrote: > > > Sorry about that... I deleted th

[twitter-dev] Re: OAUTH: Basic Auth is simpler/more reliable/more secure/better received than OAuth!?

2009-07-28 Thread chinaski007
Sorry about that... I deleted those threads before posting this one. I gather you are choosing to receive emails individually. The tests were statistically significant at 95% confidence levels. On Jul 28, 8:09 am, TjL wrote: > On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 7:27 AM, chinaski007 wrote: > >

[twitter-dev] OAUTH: Basic Auth is simpler/more reliable/more secure/better received than OAuth!?

2009-07-28 Thread chinaski007
Let's be honest... The end-result for third-party developers using OAuth appears to be fewer sign-ups, less reliability, more complexity, and potentially less security. Google Optimizer reveals that users are more likely to sign-up for Basic Auth than OAuth. That's just fact. Test it for your

[twitter-dev] Re: Lesson of the day: Basic Auth is more reliable/better received than OAuth.

2009-07-28 Thread chinaski007
(Then again, given that this was a Twitter security flaw, I guess I can kind of understand how they favored not to pre-announce this fix. That said, some consideration to developers would have been appreciated.)

[twitter-dev] Re: Lesson of the day: Basic Auth is more reliable/better received than OAuth.

2009-07-28 Thread chinaski007
(I should mention that this post was made at 3am after handling errors due to surprise, surprise Twitter API changes to OAuth made at ~5pm (some kind of joke to checkin changes at end of workday??)... and that's after a 8am workday start. And that's after last week's limit to verify_credentials

[twitter-dev] Lesson of the day: Basic Auth is more reliable/better received than OAuth.

2009-07-28 Thread chinaski007
Do you use Google Optimizer? If not, go there. Setup a test to compare sign-ups to your app between OAuth and Basic Auth. Give 50% the option to sign up with OAuth; 50% the option to sign up with Basic Auth. The results may surprise you. In my tests, I have found statistically significant mor

[twitter-dev] Lesson of the day: Basic Auth is better than OAuth.

2009-07-28 Thread chinaski007
OAuth is just not ready for primetime on Twitter. I have used Google Optimizer to test user response to OAuth versus Basic Auth, and users are far more likely to give Basic Auth details rather than cumbersome and weird (from the user's perspective) OAuth. >From the user's perspective, OAuth appe

[twitter-dev] Re: twitter api server seems to be down (getting invalid signature) since 5.15 pm pst

2009-07-27 Thread chinaski007
I have found the problem in the library I am using: First, a Twitter request object is created. Second, a signature is generated. Third, params are then added to the request object. This addition of the params after the signing invalidates the signature. All params need to be added before sign

[twitter-dev] Re: twitter api server seems to be down (getting invalid signature) since 5.15 pm pst

2009-07-27 Thread chinaski007
I have found the problem in the Perl library I am using.

[twitter-dev] Re: Potential Solution To OAuth Problem

2009-07-27 Thread chinaski007
Using Perl libraries. Will mess around and see what I can do. Super annoying.

[twitter-dev] Re: Potential Solution To OAuth Problem

2009-07-27 Thread chinaski007
This may solve your problem, but it doesn't work for me. I am getting errors for API calls that have no spaces, such as create friend, destroy, etc.

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter: What did you change in OAuth?

2009-07-27 Thread chinaski007
Confirmed. Google Playground does not work.

[twitter-dev] Re: twitter api server seems to be down (getting invalid signature) since 5.15 pm pst

2009-07-27 Thread chinaski007
It appears that this has been a known issue for 10 days, at least judging by this tweet: http://twitter.com/timwhitlock/statuses/2697185141

[twitter-dev] Re: twitter api server seems to be down (getting invalid signature) since 5.15 pm pst

2009-07-27 Thread chinaski007
This is frustrating for those of us relying on authentication libraries which now may no longer work. The apparent solution is to either recode the possibly problematic library oneself, or encourage users to swap to Basic Authentication. While I certainly understand Twitter's need to ensure tha

[twitter-dev] Re: twitter api server seems to be down (getting invalid signature) since 5.15 pm pst

2009-07-27 Thread chinaski007
This is very frustrating.

[twitter-dev] Re: twitter api server seems to be down (getting invalid signature) since 5.15 pm pst

2009-07-27 Thread chinaski007
Doug: Does this mean that Marcel made a fix for this? Or rather that we should examine our code to find the culprit? Thanks, Peter Bray On Jul 27, 6:24 pm, Doug Williams wrote: > Updating you guys on this problem. A bug was reported off list that informed > us we were not always verifying si

[twitter-dev] Re: twitter api server seems to be down (getting invalid signature) since 5.15 pm pst

2009-07-27 Thread chinaski007
Not sure if my message went through. I am also getting this error... "incorrect signature" as of about 30 mins ago. Any ideas??? On Jul 27, 5:26 pm, goodtest wrote: > twitter api server seems to be down (getting invalid signature) since > 5.15 pm pst

[twitter-dev] Re: twitter api server seems to be down (getting invalid signature) since 5.15 pm pst

2009-07-27 Thread chinaski007
Yep, likewise. I am getting 100s of "incorrect signature" errors. On Jul 27, 5:26 pm, goodtest wrote: > twitter api server seems to be down (getting invalid signature) since > 5.15 pm pst