Re: [twsocket] Freeze when using smtp after recreating itsparentform
Hi Arno! As I've said before Arno, You're a funny guy, though I'm sure unintentionally. Doesn't seem so long ago You kept going on with viruses and trojans and didn't even seem to read the note I made about that we were able to duplicate ICS's problems with the environment on a _brand new_ computer... :-) Never the less I'm glad You've come to Your senses but I had to draw the line somewhere. Perhaps I can look in to this in the future but as it is now I've invested far too many days trying to find the solution to the problem. // Henrik Ps. By the way Arno, it's not that constructive to blame "everyone else" before sitting down and actually think the problem through. I've mentioned this to You before. I think You could learn a great deal from Wilfried Mestdagh there. In my experience he is very constructive in his way of encircle the problem. In this example: As You know there are many solutions out there in the same fields as ICS that do not have any problems with certain environments that evidently causes problem for ICS. Even though sincere I don't think it promotes ICS that You suggest that ICS-using developers every time there comes up a new environment causing problem for ICS, and after they on the customer side have had to trace down what new application or what ever that that causes problems for ICS this time, is forced to turn to the computer manufacturer or external application developer and ask them to remake their part before ICS is going to work... Especially when other "competitors" has products that works in the same environment. Well this was just a personal opinion. Thanks once again for the help. Since I regrettable no longer use ICS I'm unsubscribing to this email list for the time being. -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För Arno Garrels Skickat: den 25 januari 2007 18:09 Till: ICS support mailing Ämne: Re: [twsocket] Freeze when using smtp after recreating itsparentform Strange logic Henrik, Even Microsoft's Works doesn't/didn't work with this buggy, API hooking Embassy Trust Suite pre-installed on newer DELL systems. Possibly they already fixed it in some service pack? If not, someone/we should report the bug to either DELL or Wave Systems. I was hoping that you helped identifying the Embassy Trust Suite clearly as the culprid. --- Arno Garrels [TeamICS] http://www.overbyte.be/eng/overbyte/teamics.html Henrik wrote: > Hi Arno and others! > > Some of the heavy work load I experienced a while ago has decreased a > bit so I thought that I should take the opportunity to thank You ALL > that tried to help me. > > At the end the solution for me was to use another smtp component. > Sorry about that. (As a request by Francois Piette I'm not going to > mention it by name in this news group.) > Even if it is like You say Arno, that the problem is not originating > from ICS it is still toghether with the SmtpCli component the problem > appears. This makes it impossible to use the SmtpCli component > knowing that users might not be able to use our application under > certain _normal_ circumstances (like in our test case with a new Dell > laptop). We can not tell our users that they have to uninstall other > softwares just to be able to send emails from our application. > Even if it is not a bug in ICS code or design the fact remains: Other > smtp components out there works just fine under the same > circumstances. So that was why I was forced to take that path. > > But once again: Thank You all for the help! You are doing a wonderful > job! Best Regards > Henrik -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] Freeze when using smtp after recreating itsparentform
Hello Dan! Yes, Wilfried Mestdagh helped me with that. He actually read my mail and understood why my own strange workaround worked. (Thank You Wilfried!) Both Wilfried and I are professional developers though, and we do not feel very comfortable using workarounds in opposite to find the actual error. After days of investigation, (and tries to make everyone understand that it was ICS way of coexist with other good applications that was the problem), I had to look at it with financial eyes and had to let go and choose another solution. Thank You for all the help! Best Regards Henrik Ps. You can read in earlier mails why I do not want the dll to be loaded at all time. Since I regrettable no longer use ICS I'm unsubscribing to this email list for the time being. -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För Dan Skickat: den 25 januari 2007 22:44 Till: 'ICS support mailing' Ämne: Re: [twsocket] Freeze when using smtp after recreating itsparentform I thought it was figured out that dynamically unloading and reloading the dll was the problem, which other components probably don't do, and I think you were given a workaround that worked...to load it manually so that the loaded count always stays above 0 and it remains loaded. Dan > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Henrik > Sent: 25 January 2007 16:42 > To: 'ICS support mailing' > Subject: Re: [twsocket] Freeze when using smtp after recreating > itsparentform > > Hi Arno and others! > > Some of the heavy work load I experienced a while ago has decreased a bit > so > I thought that I should take the opportunity to thank You ALL that tried > to > help me. > > At the end the solution for me was to use another smtp component. Sorry > about that. (As a request by Francois Piette I'm not going to mention it > by > name in this news group.) > Even if it is like You say Arno, that the problem is not originating from > ICS it is still toghether with the SmtpCli component the problem appears. > This makes it impossible to use the SmtpCli component knowing that users > might not be able to use our application under certain _normal_ > circumstances (like in our test case with a new Dell laptop). We can not > tell our users that they have to uninstall other softwares just to be able > to send emails from our application. > Even if it is not a bug in ICS code or design the fact remains: Other smtp > components out there works just fine under the same circumstances. So that > was why I was forced to take that path. > > But once again: Thank You all for the help! You are doing a wonderful job! > Best Regards > Henrik > -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] Freeze when using smtp after recreating itsparentform
Hi Arno and others! Some of the heavy work load I experienced a while ago has decreased a bit so I thought that I should take the opportunity to thank You ALL that tried to help me. At the end the solution for me was to use another smtp component. Sorry about that. (As a request by Francois Piette I'm not going to mention it by name in this news group.) Even if it is like You say Arno, that the problem is not originating from ICS it is still toghether with the SmtpCli component the problem appears. This makes it impossible to use the SmtpCli component knowing that users might not be able to use our application under certain _normal_ circumstances (like in our test case with a new Dell laptop). We can not tell our users that they have to uninstall other softwares just to be able to send emails from our application. Even if it is not a bug in ICS code or design the fact remains: Other smtp components out there works just fine under the same circumstances. So that was why I was forced to take that path. But once again: Thank You all for the help! You are doing a wonderful job! Best Regards Henrik Arno Garrels wrote: > The problem is *not a bug in ICS*. Instead another process > injects and executes its own, buggy code in the process space > of the ICS-application. Detoured.dll is used for hooking API > calls. The hooking application is the culprit! > That must not be a virus or trojan but may be any other > application/service or security suite as well. -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] Freeze when using smtp after recreating itsparentform
Thank You Bjørnar!
God Jul!
// Henrik
-Ursprungligt meddelande-
Från: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För
Bjørnar Nielsen
Skickat: den 21 december 2006 17:54
Till: 'ICS support mailing'
Ämne: Re: [twsocket] Freeze when using smtp after recreating itsparentform
I'm not sure, but I think the body of the email is automaticly encoded to
quoted printable (the plain text part), I think others in this list knows
better than me, long time ago I coded with the mail-components. If you use
html-mail, then you can encode all chars like this (C++, allthough I have
not tested this encoding on the body of the mail, only the header. Remember
that you need to set the content-type according to the encoding of the body
of the mail):
String Misc::MiscEncodeQuotedPrintable(WideString text) {
wchar_t tmp;
for (int i = 1; i <= text.Length(); i++)
{
tmp = text[i];
if (tmp > 126||tmp==95||tmp==61||tmp==63)
{
text.Delete(i,1);
WideString qpID = "=" + AnsiString::IntToHex(tmp,2).UpperCase() ;
text.Insert(qpID, i);
i += qpID.Length() - 1;
}
}
String returnString=text;
return returnString;
}
It might be that you need to change all spaces to underscore between the
for-loop and returning the text, at least if the text is in the subject you
must do that.
If you use this form in the subject, the use the following form String
Subject = "=?iso-8859-1?Q?" +
Misc::MiscEncodeQuotedPrintable(OP_UTF8Decode(source)) + "?=";
To change the html-part of the mail, you can use this:
String Misc::WideStringToHTMLEncoding(WideString html) {
wchar_t tmp;
for (int i = 1; i <= html.Length(); i++)
{
tmp = html[i];
if (tmp > 126)
{
html.Delete(i,1);
WideString htmlID = "&#" + String(tmp) + ";";
html.Insert(htmlID, i);
i += htmlID.Length() - 1;
}
}
String ret = html;
return ret;
}
This form can hold any possible char in html.
Regards Bjørnar
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Henrik
> Sent: 21. desember 2006 15:55
> To: 'ICS support mailing'
> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Freeze when using smtp after recreating
> itsparentform
>
> Hi Bjørnar!
>
> I've not been experiencing any problem with character replacement
> (å->e,
> ä->d and ö->v) with ICS components, only Indy 9 and only when passing
> through ms exchange it seems, but I tried Your suggestion and it works
> like a charm with Indy 9!
> (Do You mean that You use that approach also with ICS smtp
> components?)
>
> Quoted printable sounds interesting as well because one of our
> customers report character replacing problems also with the body when
> sending (Indy) automated emails to a customer of theirs in Norway...
> Apparently all Swedish characters å, ä and ö are substituted with ?.
> Perhaps it is possible to use Quoted printable on the whole body? If
> You want you can send me the code to my private address.
>
> I must say I really like the help I've received in this forum and I
> would really like to be able to switch to ICS. It is sad that we
> couldn't solve the dll loading error that appears on some machines...
>
> Thank You very much!
> Best Regards
> Henrik
>
>
>
> -Ursprungligt meddelande-
> Från: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För Bjørnar Nielsen
> Skickat: den 19 december 2006 17:39
> Till: 'ICS support mailing'
> Ämne: Re: [twsocket] Freeze when using smtp after recreating
> itsparentform
>
> I use the same component and send norwegian, swedish and even chinese
> chars in the subject (but Outlook can't show chinese in the subject on
> my computer).
>
> Use Quoted printable or Base64 to encode special chars.
> Example for Base64 could be like this (C++):
>
> HtmlSmtpCli1->HdrSubject = "=?utf-8?B?" +
> Base64Encode(UTF8Encode(SubjectInputFromUserEdit->Text)) + "?=";
>
> If you have a GUI-component that can handle WideStrings, then you can
> have any language in the subject using the above form. First the
> unicode-string is UTF8-encoded, then it is Base64-encoded and I think
> this form can hold any possible char.
>
> If you use Quoted printable instead you would save a little space
> because only the char's above 126 or so is encoded, I have code for
> this too if you ar interested.
>
> Regards Bjørnar
>
> > imagine) so I'm planning to return to Indy as long as I can solve
> > their issue with Swedish characters in the subject.
>
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Re: [twsocket] TSmtpCli encoding (was: Freeze when using smtp afterrecreating itsparentform)
Ok, so if I want to be sure that Swedish e-mails looks the same when they arrive to the recipient regardless of what language is used on the recipients computer I should encode the text message with QuotedPrintable? And this is done by setting the following properties? SmtpCli1.Allow8bitChars := false; (if I want the _subject_ encoded) SmtpCli1.DefaultEncoding := smtpEncQuotedPrintable; (to get the body encoded) // Henrik -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För Arno Garrels Skickat: den 22 december 2006 10:30 Till: ICS support mailing Ämne: [twsocket] TSmtpCli encoding (was: Freeze when using smtp afterrecreating itsparentform) Bjørnar Nielsen wrote: > I'm not sure, but I think the body of the email is automaticly encoded > to quoted printable (the plain text part), I think others in this list > knows In TSmtpCli it depends on properties DefaultEncoding as well as on Allow8bitChars. - Allow8bitChars: Default=TRUE, headers are not encoded. If FALSE headers and message text are encoded using method spezified in DefaultEncoding *if necessary. If DefaultEncoding is smtpEnc7bit or smtpEnc8bit quoted printable is used by default. - DefaultEncoding: Default=smtpEnc7bit, if smtpEncBase64 or smtpEncQuotedPrintable message text is always encoded. --- Arno Garrels [TeamICS] http://www.overbyte.be/eng/overbyte/teamics.html -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] Freeze when using smtp after recreating itsparentform
Hi Arno! ProcessExplorer: I only find two dll's that I'm not certain what they do: - detoured.dll - wxvault.dll (Embassy Trust Suite by Wave Systems. Apparently installed by default by Dell) Ethereal: I only get packages sent the first time. The second time the application hangs before anything has been sent... Best Regards Henrik -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För Arno Garrels Skickat: den 19 december 2006 16:24 Till: ICS support mailing Ämne: Re: [twsocket] Freeze when using smtp after recreating itsparentform Henrik wrote: > Arno, >> Can you rule out that an application that has set a global hook is >> actually working correctly? i.e. RealVNC server injects a wm_hook.dll >> into each process space, if such interception was buggy one can >> imagine that it would hurt, ICS may be hit especially since TWSocket >> is being notified about socket events by window messages. View the >> DLLs linked to a process with ProcessExplorer: > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/ProcessesAndThreads/Proc > essExp > lorer.mspx > > I've downloaded the application above but I don't know how too > proceed. > What am I looking for and how do I do to get that information in > ProcessExplorer? At first, my above question has a typo, it should read "Can you rule out that an application that has set a global hook is not working correctly?" Ok, start Wilfried's test app., in ProcessExplorer click on the ICS test application, the listview at the bottom will either list linked DLLs or handles, toggle the view to display DLLs. Take a closer look at any DLL that's not from Microsoft, for instance if Sygate personal firewall was running you would find a SSSensor.dll from Sygate Technologies, this is an injected DLL. Try to find it's parent application or service and stop it unless you think that test program's process space is clean (you need to restart the test application to make changes visible). > >> It also may help to see a packet dump logged with Ethereal. > It's a packet logger/analizer, it shows you exactly any byte that passes your nic. I would set a capture filter like "port 25 or port 53" to only get traffic on ports 25 and 53 logged. Start the capture and run the ICS test app. unless the error happens, close the test app., the stop the capture and save the log as Ethereal/tcpdump(*.cap,*.pcap), file format libpcap to a file, upload the log somewhere and post the link here. --- Arno Garrels [TeamICS] http://www.overbyte.be/eng/overbyte/teamics.html -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] Freeze when using smtp after recreating itsparentform
Hi Bjørnar! I've not been experiencing any problem with character replacement (å->e, ä->d and ö->v) with ICS components, only Indy 9 and only when passing through ms exchange it seems, but I tried Your suggestion and it works like a charm with Indy 9! (Do You mean that You use that approach also with ICS smtp components?) Quoted printable sounds interesting as well because one of our customers report character replacing problems also with the body when sending (Indy) automated emails to a customer of theirs in Norway... Apparently all Swedish characters å, ä and ö are substituted with ?. Perhaps it is possible to use Quoted printable on the whole body? If You want you can send me the code to my private address. I must say I really like the help I've received in this forum and I would really like to be able to switch to ICS. It is sad that we couldn't solve the dll loading error that appears on some machines... Thank You very much! Best Regards Henrik -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För Bjørnar Nielsen Skickat: den 19 december 2006 17:39 Till: 'ICS support mailing' Ämne: Re: [twsocket] Freeze when using smtp after recreating itsparentform I use the same component and send norwegian, swedish and even chinese chars in the subject (but Outlook can't show chinese in the subject on my computer). Use Quoted printable or Base64 to encode special chars. Example for Base64 could be like this (C++): HtmlSmtpCli1->HdrSubject = "=?utf-8?B?" + Base64Encode(UTF8Encode(SubjectInputFromUserEdit->Text)) + "?="; If you have a GUI-component that can handle WideStrings, then you can have any language in the subject using the above form. First the unicode-string is UTF8-encoded, then it is Base64-encoded and I think this form can hold any possible char. If you use Quoted printable instead you would save a little space because only the char's above 126 or so is encoded, I have code for this too if you ar interested. Regards Bjørnar > imagine) so I'm planning to return to Indy as long as I can solve > their issue with Swedish characters in the subject. -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] Freeze when using smtp after recreating itsparentform
Hi Wilfried and Francois! Wilfried wrote: > But you can safely use ForceLoadWinsock ! There is > absolutely no problem to use it. Only me (we) wanted > to dig out where the problem is. > ForceLoadWinsock did solve the problem as I recall > some days ago. Francois wrote: > I saw that using WSocketForceLoadWinsock solve the > problem. Why not using it ? It has no adverse effect > in your case. It would be annoying only when your > application has to run whenever winsock is installed > or not. Those days, it is hard to find a system where > TCP/IP stack is not installed ! To summarize the problem: When trying to switch from Indy to ICS using a company standard "e-mail unit" with a single function: SendEmail(host, address...) that takes care of creating a status form with the smtp component, our applications were starting to freeze on some machines at our customers when emails where to be sent the second time. We have now discovered that: Yes, the error do not arise when using WSocketForceLoadWinsock or having the smtp component on the main form (or creating a dummy smtp component at runtime and let it exist while the application is running). So we've found a workaround but feels a bit unsatisfied not finding what causes the problem. As I've mentioned before I'm not very initiated in the fields that ICS is handling for me and now I feel like a real rookie because I'm not that initiated in dll-using either... You say that it has no adverse effect using WSocketForceLoadWinsock in my case: but doesn't the use of WSocketForceLoadWinsock on applications startup mean that the dll is loaded the whole time the applications is running? I don't know if that has some bad effects like bigger memory usage or so but at least it doesn't feel that satisfying to have the dll loaded all the time even if the application is not going to use it. Also if I have to manually load the dll on application startup the whole idea to use one simple function to send emails get lost. That was why I used the some what strange (I admit that) work around to create an application wide dummy smtp component the first time the function is called. The dummy makes it possible to call the email function as many times You want when the application is running and hopefully it is deleted when application is closed?! Best Regards Henrik -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] Freeze when using smtp after recreating itsparentform
Hi Wilfried! I tested the "NUMPROC=1" but with no difference I'm afraid... Well, perhaps we've done what we can for now. As I've said before: Thank You very much for Your efforts! I can not spend so many more days on this now (the same for You I would imagine) so I'm planning to return to Indy as long as I can solve their issue with Swedish characters in the subject. That is the only problem our customers did report on Indy so no freezing there regardless of "external differences" or whatever... So if You are out of ideas for now I once again say Thank You of all my heart and I wish You a Merry Christmas! Best Regards Henrik -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För Wilfried Mestdagh Skickat: den 18 december 2006 17:44 Till: ICS support mailing Ämne: Re: [twsocket] Freeze when using smtp after recreating itsparentform Hello Henrik, > It could be an error in the Winsock load/unload of ICS. Or a windows bug for the dynamically load / unload. Or a winsock bug because of the dual cpu. Or some combination. The latter is easy to test. Put in boot.ini: /NUMPROC=1 or /ONECPU and reboot. --- Rgds, Wilfried [TeamICS] http://www.overbyte.be/eng/overbyte/teamics.html http://www.mestdagh.biz -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] Freeze when using smtp after recreating itsparentform
Arno, See answers below... // Henrik -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För Arno Garrels Skickat: den 18 december 2006 19:40 Till: ICS support mailing Ämne: Re: [twsocket] Freeze when using smtp after recreating itsparentform >> (According to Arno he had tested the example procedure we have been >> talking about on a computer with Intel Dual Core and XP without any >> problems since he continued to talk about external issues... :-) >Correct, since we cannot be sure that you tried everything you can to rule out external issues. Well I've tried to assure You of this in earlier emails. Of course it must be some environmental condition that makes ICS hang since the same application works on some and hangs on some. (If it makes You feel better You can even call it "external" differences :-).) But the point is that as long as ICS makes the application hang on SOME healthy computers, its impossible to use as a part of our applications. We have too many customers world wide to take that risk. I know that it is easier not believing but it _is_ possible to duplicate this error on proven healthy computers. At our company we have been able to duplicate the freeze on not one but TWO of our test computers where one of them are NEW. > Have you scanned with a different AV tool yet, i.e. Norton AV trial? > Have you checked for spyware and trojan horses? Well I hope that Dell, in this case, doesn't sell infected computers but just to try make a believer out of You I now (once again I might add) tested both computers for virus with: Norman, McAfee and Trend Micro. And for spy ware and such with AdAware and Search&Destroy. And as I tend keep telling You: Nothing is found! > Can you rule out that an application that has set a global hook is > actually working correctly? i.e. RealVNC server injects a wm_hook.dll > into each process space, if such interception was buggy one can imagine > that it would hurt, ICS may be hit especially since TWSocket is being > notified about socket events by window messages. View the DLLs linked > to a process with ProcessExplorer: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/ProcessesAndThreads/ProcessExp lorer.mspx I've downloaded the application above but I don't know how too proceed. What am I looking for and how do I do to get that information in ProcessExplorer? > It also may help to see a packet dump logged with Ethereal. Se answer above... -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] Freeze when using smtp after recreating itsparentform
Hi Francois! Yes, perhaps You're right - It could be an error in the Winsock load/unload of ICS. Best Regards Henrik -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För Francois Piette Skickat: den 18 december 2006 16:58 Till: ICS support mailing Ämne: Re: [twsocket] Freeze when using smtp after recreating itsparentform > One thing that troubles me is that smtp-components from other vendors works > fine also on the computers where ICS gets into trouble. > What is ICS doing that none of the other smtp components or > applications are not? Dynamically load/unload WinSock when needed ? Contribute to the SSL Effort. Visit http://www.overbyte.be/eng/ssl.html -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Author of ICS (Internet Component Suite, freeware) Author of MidWare (Multi-tier framework, freeware) http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] Freeze when using smtp after recreating itsparentform
Hi again Wilfried! The other computer where the example application hangs also has an Intel Dual Core CPU and Win XP. (According to Arno he had tested the example procedure we have been talking about on a computer with Intel Dual Core and XP without any problems. I don't know if he really got the description of the example setup though since he continued to talk about external issues... :-) > Indy and many others use blocking calls to > winsock while ICS uses the non blocking calls. Is this also true with SyncSmtpCli? (because the same problem occurs using that) > I suggest you keep on using the ForceLoadWinsock... Yes this is a possibility as is putting the smtp component on the main form... Does this have any side effects? (When using this kind of approach the dll is loaded all the time the application is running?) Best Regards Henrik -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För Wilfried Mestdagh Skickat: den 18 december 2006 15:46 Till: ICS support mailing Ämne: Re: [twsocket] Freeze when using smtp after recreating itsparentform Hello Henrik, > use the same test with Indy everything works fine! What is ICS doing > that none of the other smtp components or applications are not? Indy and many others use blocking calls to winsock while ICS uses the non blocking calls. I suggest you keep on using the ForceLoadWinsock to keep your application running. For the moment I have absolutely no idea what we can do to fix it otherwise. Oh yes 1 question: You mentioned dual CPU on 1 of the offending machines. What about the other ones ? --- Rgds, Wilfried [TeamICS] http://www.overbyte.be/eng/overbyte/teamics.html http://www.mestdagh.biz -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] Freeze when using smtp after recreating itsparentform
Hi again Wilfried and thank You for Your endurance! I'm sorry to say that using the IP address doesn't do the trick. A difference is that no log entry is made at all the second time connecting before the application hangs. Since I really appreciate Your effort Wilfried I reinstalled the TCP stack to 'prove' that the error is not at that end. And once again I'm sad to say; the reinstallation did not get the error go away on none of the both test computers where I can duplicate my customers reported application hang. Perhaps it is a good thing since these two are both brand new computers with the latest updates and so on. One thing that troubles me is that smtp-components from other vendors works fine also on the computers where ICS gets into trouble. If I for instance use the same test with Indy everything works fine! What is ICS doing that none of the other smtp components or applications are not? I'm out of ideas since a long time now, but a BIG clue to this problem must be that it doesn't happen the first time the component is created (= dll loaded). It is the subsequent times that something can go wrong. This means that You can start lots of SmtpTest-applications at the same time and connect them without getting into trouble. It is only when you're trying to connect multiple times from the same application that You get the hang on these computers. HTH Henrik -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För Wilfried Mestdagh Skickat: den 18 december 2006 13:46 Till: ICS support mailing Ämne: Re: [twsocket] Freeze when using smtp after recreating itsparentform Hello Henrik, So it hangs in the TWSocket.DNSLookup, and OnDNSLookupDone is never fired. You could try also by filling in the IP address of the smtp server instead of the host name. Probably it will not hang anymore. But as DZ mentioned, this is pure winsock call. So it is really winsock that hangs. Can you try to reinstall the TCP stack on the offending machine ? --- Rgds, Wilfried [TeamICS] http://www.overbyte.be/eng/overbyte/teamics.html http://www.mestdagh.biz Monday, December 18, 2006, 11:57, Henrik wrote: > Hello Wilfried! > I've downloaded the Your zip file (if you have more test files further > on, you can send them directly to me if it is easier for you). > Here are the results from the Swedish jury :-) > Best Regards > Henrik > On a computer where the component error is not showing: > --- > (first time. Host=out.pandora.be) > 00B14620 DNS Lookup for out.pandora.be 00B14620 Host found, connecting > to: 195.130.137.75 00B14620 Opened 00B14620 Connecting 00B14620 Timed > out 00B14620 Closed > (second time. Host=out.pandora.be) > 00B13970 DNS Lookup for out.pandora.be 00B13970 Host found, connecting > to: 195.130.137.75 00B13970 Opened 00B13970 Connecting 00B13970 Timed > out 00B13970 Closed > (first time. Host=smtp.bredband.net) > 00B14620 DNS Lookup for smtp.bredband.net 00B14620 Host found, > connecting to: 195.54.106.231 00B14620 Opened 00B14620 Connecting > 00B14620 Connected 00B14620 < 220 ironport.bredband.com ESMTP 00B14620 >> QUIT > 00B14620 < 221 ironport.bredband.com > 00B14620 Closed > (second time. Host=smtp.bredband.net) > 00B14620 DNS Lookup for smtp.bredband.net 00B14620 Host found, > connecting to: 195.54.106.231 00B14620 Opened 00B14620 Connecting > 00B14620 Connected 00B14620 < 220 ironport.bredband.com ESMTP 00B14620 >> QUIT > 00B14620 < 221 ironport.bredband.com > 00B14620 Closed > On a computer where the component error shows: > -- > (first time. Host=out.pandora.be) > 00C8242C DNS Lookup for out.pandora.be 00C8242C Host found, connecting > to: 195.130.137.75 00C8242C Opened 00C8242C Connecting 00C8242C Timed > out 00C8242C Closed Here an error occurs and I get the following > "standard" Windows error dialog when an application has done something > wrong (freely translated): > SmtpTest.exe has encountered a problem and has to be terminated... > Describe the problem to Microsoft > We have created an error report that You can send to us... > (first time. Host=smtp.bredband.net) > 00C8242C DNS Lookup for smtp.bredband.net 00C8242C Host found, > connecting to: 195.54.106.231 00C8242C Opened 00C8242C Connecting > 00C8242C Connected 00C8242C < 220 ironport.bredband.com ESMTP 00C8242C >> QUIT > 00C8242C < 221 ironport.bredband.com > 00C8242C Closed > (second time. Host=smtp.bredband.net) > 00C83960 DNS Lookup for smtp.bredband.net Freeze/Hang but > possible to move window > -Ursprungligt meddelande- > Från: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För Wilfried Mestdagh > Skickat:
Re: [twsocket] Freeze when using smtp after recreating itsparentform
Hello Wilfried! I've downloaded the Your zip file (if you have more test files further on, you can send them directly to me if it is easier for you). Here are the results from the Swedish jury :-) Best Regards Henrik On a computer where the component error is not showing: --- (first time. Host=out.pandora.be) 00B14620 DNS Lookup for out.pandora.be 00B14620 Host found, connecting to: 195.130.137.75 00B14620 Opened 00B14620 Connecting 00B14620 Timed out 00B14620 Closed (second time. Host=out.pandora.be) 00B13970 DNS Lookup for out.pandora.be 00B13970 Host found, connecting to: 195.130.137.75 00B13970 Opened 00B13970 Connecting 00B13970 Timed out 00B13970 Closed (first time. Host=smtp.bredband.net) 00B14620 DNS Lookup for smtp.bredband.net 00B14620 Host found, connecting to: 195.54.106.231 00B14620 Opened 00B14620 Connecting 00B14620 Connected 00B14620 < 220 ironport.bredband.com ESMTP 00B14620 > QUIT 00B14620 < 221 ironport.bredband.com 00B14620 Closed (second time. Host=smtp.bredband.net) 00B14620 DNS Lookup for smtp.bredband.net 00B14620 Host found, connecting to: 195.54.106.231 00B14620 Opened 00B14620 Connecting 00B14620 Connected 00B14620 < 220 ironport.bredband.com ESMTP 00B14620 > QUIT 00B14620 < 221 ironport.bredband.com 00B14620 Closed On a computer where the component error shows: -- (first time. Host=out.pandora.be) 00C8242C DNS Lookup for out.pandora.be 00C8242C Host found, connecting to: 195.130.137.75 00C8242C Opened 00C8242C Connecting 00C8242C Timed out 00C8242C Closed Here an error occurs and I get the following "standard" Windows error dialog when an application has done something wrong (freely translated): SmtpTest.exe has encountered a problem and has to be terminated... Describe the problem to Microsoft We have created an error report that You can send to us... (first time. Host=smtp.bredband.net) 00C8242C DNS Lookup for smtp.bredband.net 00C8242C Host found, connecting to: 195.54.106.231 00C8242C Opened 00C8242C Connecting 00C8242C Connected 00C8242C < 220 ironport.bredband.com ESMTP 00C8242C > QUIT 00C8242C < 221 ironport.bredband.com 00C8242C Closed (second time. Host=smtp.bredband.net) 00C83960 DNS Lookup for smtp.bredband.net Freeze/Hang but possible to move window -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För Wilfried Mestdagh Skickat: den 16 december 2006 12:59 Till: ICS support mailing Ämne: Re: [twsocket] Freeze when using smtp after recreating itsparentform Hello Henrik, I have no idea anymore. As test I made a little application in Delphi. Please download it at http://www.mestdagh.biz/test/smtptest.zip and tell me if you have it (then I can delete it from server). It does more or less the same as you do with the form, just creates an object that connect to smtp server, receive banner, send quit and destroy itself when answer from quit, or timed out. I'm curious if this works on the offending machines. --- Rgds, Wilfried [TeamICS] http://www.overbyte.be/eng/overbyte/teamics.html http://www.mestdagh.biz Friday, December 15, 2006, 14:19, Henrik wrote: > Hi Wilfried! > Here are the results when tracing all occurrences of WSocketGCount in > the ICS code. I tested the both the original example code and the one > that manually loads/unloads winsock, on two different computers. > Please let me know if I can do some other tracing that could shed > light on the problem... > Best Regards > Henrik > ON THE EXAMPLE COMPUTER WHERE THE ERROR SHOWS > = > Original code that hangs > > (Creating smtpTestForm from main form, pressing connect, close > smtpTestForm, release smtpTestForm from main form) constructor > TCustomWSocket.Create: 0 -> 1 procedure SafeIncrementCount: 1 -> 2 > procedure SafeDecrementCount: 2 -> 1 procedure SafeIncrementCount: 1 > -> 2 procedure SafeDecrementCount: 2 -> 1 procedure > SafeIncrementCount: 1 -> 2 procedure SafeDecrementCount: 2 -> 1 > destructor TCustomWSocket.Destroy: 1 -> 0 procedure > WSocketUnloadWinsock: 0 destructor TCustomWSocket.Destroy: 0 > (Creating smtpTestForm from main form, pressing connect, hang...) > constructor TCustomWSocket.Create: 0 -> 1 procedure > SafeIncrementCount: 1 -> 2 procedure SafeDecrementCount: 2 -> 1 > procedure SafeIncrementCount: 1 -> 2 procedure SafeDecrementCount: 2 > -> 1 procedure SafeIncrementCount: 1 -> 2 procedure > SafeDecrementCount: 2 -> 1 > -!- The application hangs -!- > Manually ForceLoadWinsock and CancelForceLoadWinsock > > (ForceLoadWinsock on main form creation, Creating smtpTestForm from > mai
Re: [twsocket] Freeze when using smtp after recreating itsparentform
Hi Frans! Thank You for the input! No it doesn't seem to be any default units added. These are the units used in the example project MailSnd from ICS. MailSnd1.pas: WinTypes, WinProcs, Messages, SysUtils, Classes, Controls, Forms, StdCtrls, ExtCtrls, SmtpProt, IniFiles; I looked in the original ics.zip and I can see no difference. In the "main form" we added to create SmtpTestForm the following units are used: Unit2.pas: Windows, Messages, SysUtils, Variants, Classes, Graphics, Controls, Forms, Dialogs, StdCtrls; Best Regards Henrik > Frans van Daalen: > Henrik, any default units that gets automatically added > in your project like madexcept or fastmm4 ? -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] Freeze when using smtp after recreating itsparentform
Hi Wilfried! Here are the results when tracing all occurrences of WSocketGCount in the ICS code. I tested the both the original example code and the one that manually loads/unloads winsock, on two different computers. Please let me know if I can do some other tracing that could shed light on the problem... Best Regards Henrik ON THE EXAMPLE COMPUTER WHERE THE ERROR SHOWS = Original code that hangs (Creating smtpTestForm from main form, pressing connect, close smtpTestForm, release smtpTestForm from main form) constructor TCustomWSocket.Create: 0 -> 1 procedure SafeIncrementCount: 1 -> 2 procedure SafeDecrementCount: 2 -> 1 procedure SafeIncrementCount: 1 -> 2 procedure SafeDecrementCount: 2 -> 1 procedure SafeIncrementCount: 1 -> 2 procedure SafeDecrementCount: 2 -> 1 destructor TCustomWSocket.Destroy: 1 -> 0 procedure WSocketUnloadWinsock: 0 destructor TCustomWSocket.Destroy: 0 (Creating smtpTestForm from main form, pressing connect, hang...) constructor TCustomWSocket.Create: 0 -> 1 procedure SafeIncrementCount: 1 -> 2 procedure SafeDecrementCount: 2 -> 1 procedure SafeIncrementCount: 1 -> 2 procedure SafeDecrementCount: 2 -> 1 procedure SafeIncrementCount: 1 -> 2 procedure SafeDecrementCount: 2 -> 1 -!- The application hangs -!- Manually ForceLoadWinsock and CancelForceLoadWinsock (ForceLoadWinsock on main form creation, Creating smtpTestForm from main form, pressing connect, close smtpTestForm, release smtpTestForm from main form) procedure WSocketForceLoadWinsock 0 -> 1 constructor TCustomWSocket.Create: 1 -> 2 procedure SafeIncrementCount: 2 -> 3 procedure SafeDecrementCount: 3 -> 2 procedure SafeIncrementCount: 2 -> 3 procedure SafeDecrementCount: 3 -> 2 procedure SafeIncrementCount: 2 -> 3 procedure SafeDecrementCount: 3 -> 2 destructor TCustomWSocket.Destroy: 2 -> 1 destructor TCustomWSocket.Destroy: 1 (Creating smtpTestForm from main form, pressing connect, close smtpTestForm, release smtpTestForm from main form, CancelForceLoadWinsock in mainform.OnCloseQuery) constructor TCustomWSocket.Create: 1 -> 2 procedure SafeIncrementCount: 2 -> 3 procedure SafeDecrementCount: 3 -> 2 procedure SafeIncrementCount: 2 -> 3 procedure SafeDecrementCount: 3 -> 2 procedure SafeIncrementCount: 2 -> 3 procedure SafeDecrementCount: 3 -> 2 destructor TCustomWSocket.Destroy: 2 -> 1 destructor TCustomWSocket.Destroy: 1 procedure WSocketCancelForceLoadWinsock: 1 -> 0 procedure WSocketUnloadWinsock: 0 Wsocket finalization: 0 procedure WSocketUnloadWinsock: 0 ON THE COMPUTER WHERE THE ERROR DO NOT SHOW === Original code that hangs on some computers - (Creating smtpTestForm from main form, pressing connect, close smtpTestForm, release smtpTestForm from main form) constructor TCustomWSocket.Create: 0 -> 1 procedure SafeIncrementCount: 1 -> 2 procedure SafeDecrementCount: 2 -> 1 procedure SafeIncrementCount: 1 -> 2 procedure SafeDecrementCount: 2 -> 1 procedure SafeIncrementCount: 1 -> 2 procedure SafeDecrementCount: 2 -> 1 destructor TCustomWSocket.Destroy: 1 -> 0 procedure WSocketUnloadWinsock: 0 destructor TCustomWSocket.Destroy: 0 (Creating smtpTestForm from main form, pressing connect, close smtpTestForm, release smtpTestForm from main form) constructor TCustomWSocket.Create: 0 -> 1 procedure SafeIncrementCount: 1 -> 2 procedure SafeDecrementCount: 2 -> 1 procedure SafeIncrementCount: 1 -> 2 procedure SafeDecrementCount: 2 -> 1 procedure SafeIncrementCount: 1 -> 2 procedure SafeDecrementCount: 2 -> 1 destructor TCustomWSocket.Destroy: 1 -> 0 procedure WSocketUnloadWinsock: 0 destructor TCustomWSocket.Destroy: 0 Wsocket finalization: 0 procedure WSocketUnloadWinsock: 0 Manually ForceLoadWinsock and CancelForceLoadWinsock (ForceLoadWinsock on main form creation, Creating smtpTestForm from main form, pressing connect, close smtpTestForm, release smtpTestForm from main form) procedure WSocketForceLoadWinsock 0 -> 1 constructor TCustomWSocket.Create: 1 -> 2 procedure SafeIncrementCount: 2 -> 3 procedure SafeDecrementCount: 3 -> 2 procedure SafeIncrementCount: 2 -> 3 procedure SafeDecrementCount: 3 -> 2 procedure SafeIncrementCount: 2 -> 3 procedure SafeDecrementCount: 3 -> 2 destructor TCustomWSocket.Destroy: 2 -> 1 destructor TCustomWSocket.Destroy: 1 (Creating smtpTestForm from main form, pressing connect, close smtpTestForm, release smtpTestForm from main form, CancelForceLoadWinsock in mainform.OnCloseQuery) constructor TCustomWSocket.Create: 1 -> 2 procedure SafeIncrementCount: 2 -> 3 procedure SafeDecrementCount: 3 -> 2 procedure SafeIncrementCount: 2 -> 3 pro
Re: [twsocket] Freeze when using smtp after recreating itsparentform
Well ok, strange sense of humor anyway since its pretty obvious that the virus solution is not the rescue this time. I don't blame him though. I myself speculate wildly and tend to grasp the "all mighty virus solution" when it is something that I can't explain or duplicate at my end when my customers have problems. Since I'm the only one of us that so far has found a computer where I can duplicate this behavior, You have to trust me when I say it not a virus causing this! Except that we've been working as a computer consultant since 1988 and experienced all kinds of viruses first hand at our customers (meaning we _know_ how to protect from, and detect, malignant software), it is too many facts already mentioned to really believe that it could be anything like that. For instance: - Why would a virus be designed to bee in the way for just ICS and not Indy - Why would a virus care if You use standard ICS demo application or if you launch the same application from a main form. - Why would a virus let You send as many emails You want the first time you start an application and use the create/free -approach and mess with You the second time. - Why would a virus stop messing with You if it detects that there are two smtp components or that the winsock dll is loaded manually :-) Well You get the grip... Sorry if I get a bit aggravated. I really appreciate Your effort Arno, but external problems is not the way to go this time. //Henrik -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För Wilfried Mestdagh Skickat: den 14 december 2006 16:31 Till: ICS support mailing Ämne: Re: [twsocket] Freeze when using smtp after recreating itsparentform Hello Henrik, What you could do is set in IDE some breakpoints at the places the dll is loaded / unloaded. To see if this mechanism is working fine on the offending machines. It is a counter that increment / decrement to decide if winsock should be load or unload. That's the best idea I have so far. No Arno was not joking, it has flashed to my head also for a moment when reading this thread. However if it is so then I dont quite understeand wy the manually load / unload of winsock dll works in every case. --- Rgds, Wilfried [TeamICS] http://www.overbyte.be/eng/overbyte/teamics.html http://www.mestdagh.biz -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] Freeze when using smtp after recreating itsparentform
Hi Wilfried! I think Arno's virus response was meant to be a joke...? Anyhow it is not the answer this time. So how to proceed? Can we come up with some other test scenarios? The answer must have something to do with _how_ ICS load the dll... or any other ideas? // Henrik -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För Wilfried Mestdagh Skickat: den 14 december 2006 16:10 Till: ICS support mailing Ämne: Re: [twsocket] Freeze when using smtp after recreating itsparentform Ok, so it is working, but still remains the question wy the dynamically loading of winsock should not work as it should on some machines ? Arno, you mention a virus, but should it then work with the ForceLoadWinsock ? I recall virusses that did some things with the TCP stack, but it was more the service and proto files in registry I think. --- Rgds, Wilfried [TeamICS] http://www.overbyte.be/eng/overbyte/teamics.html http://www.mestdagh.biz Thursday, December 14, 2006, 15:49, Henrik wrote: > Hi! > YES! Now we are getting somewhere. > When I manually load/unload winsock as Wilfried suggested, the error > does not show. So it has something to do with the loading of the dll. > I'm sending You the files Wilfried :-) > // Henrik -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] Freeze when using smtp after recreating itsparentform
Hi! YES! Now we are getting somewhere. When I manually load/unload winsock as Wilfried suggested, the error does not show. So it has something to do with the loading of the dll. I'm sending You the files Wilfried :-) // Henrik -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För Wilfried Mestdagh Skickat: den 14 december 2006 15:00 Till: ICS support mailing Ämne: Re: [twsocket] Freeze when using smtp after recreating itsparentform Hello Henrik, > * My workaround so far is to create another smtp component > that exists all the time the application is running. I > now discovered that this is also true with the Wsocket > component. For instance put it on the main form and > everything works on all computers. Could it be the loading of Winsock dll ? Can you try to remove the component, and put in FormCreate: WSocketForceLoadWinsock; and in FormCloseQuery (both main form) WSocketCancelForceLoadWinsock; but first try to comment the application wide exception handler ! --- Rgds, Wilfried [TeamICS] http://www.overbyte.be/eng/overbyte/teamics.html http://www.mestdagh.biz -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] Freeze when using smtp after recreating itsparentform
Hi Wilfried and thanks for a fast reply! I'm sending You the new demo. At my end it does not make any change removing the application wide exception handler. This is just in the ICS demo not in any of my normal applications. I also want to point out that: - It's the standard ICS MailSnd demo we are using. You can use Your own copy if You want. - I have tested and it doesn't matter if I _compile_ the demo app on a computer were the error shows or not. It shows up on one of my test computers were I can duplicate my customers error report, anyhow. // Henrik -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För Wilfried Mestdagh Skickat: den 14 december 2006 14:56 Till: ICS support mailing Ämne: *SPAM* Re: [twsocket] Freeze when using smtp after recreating itsparentform Hello Arno, Just received the compiled demo from Henrik. Tested on same boxes as you did, nothing reproducable :( Tryed with the compiled exe from Henrik as with recompiling from in IDE. Something not good: In FormCreate of the ICS form there is an appllication wide exception handler assigned which is in the form. After destroying the form it is of course still assigned. Henrik can you please do that line in comment and try again ? Possible it does no harm as it uses no private data and only shows a message box, but jsut to be sure ! --- Rgds, Wilfried [TeamICS] http://www.overbyte.be/eng/overbyte/teamics.html http://www.mestdagh.biz Thursday, December 14, 2006, 14:39, Arno Garrels wrote: > Wilfried Mestdagh wrote: >> Hello Henrik, >> >> this is frustrating :( > Welcome to the club. >> I can do a test on several >> computers if you want. Please include in your mail the steps nececary >> to reproduce the problem. > I wanted to help as well, but on 3 boxes here NT4 SP6a, W2K SP4, XP > SP2 (auto-updated) Henrik's simple test case did not show the error, > that's why I asked him to find the error condition rather than > providing a strange workaround. Once we/I can reproduce the error a > fix will probably be found very quickly, given that there is a bug at all. > Otherwise you can only speculate :( > --- > Arno Garrels [TeamICS] > http://www.overbyte.be/eng/overbyte/teamics.html -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] Freeze when using smtp after recreating itsparentform
Hi again Wilfried! Nice to hear from You! I've now tried to have 'stop on exceptions' both enabled and disabled in the IDE but with the same result: the trace "disappears" at the earlier described line. I'm thankful for all the help I can get so if it is possible for You to investigate this I'm very grateful! I sending the files to Your private mail. If some one else want to test this please feel free to email me for the files or do the following procedure: * Open Your favorite demo of MailSnd, MimeTst or MailHtml. (I proceed with MailSnd-demo below.) * Add a new form with a button to the project. Write the following in the buttons OnClick method: procedure TForm2.Button1Click(Sender: TObject); begin SmtpTestForm := TSmtpTestForm.Create(Application); try SmtpTestForm.ShowModal; finally SmtpTestForm.Release; end; end; * Click on the Delphi menu: Project-Options, and remove the SmtpTestFrom from the Auto-createForms list. * Run the application and click Button1. SmtpTestForm opens and You can send one or many emails. * Close SmtpTestForm and press Button1 again. SmtpTestForm opens but You can't connect... // Henrik -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För Wilfried Mestdagh Skickat: den 14 december 2006 11:01 Till: ICS support mailing Ämne: Re: [twsocket] Freeze when using smtp after recreating itsparentform Hello Henrik, this is frustrating :( When the trace dissapears it could also be an AV (unles you have 'stop on exceptions' enabled in the IDE). Can you send me the offending project in private mail, including source and the compiled exe file ? I can do a test on several computers if you want. Please include in your mail the steps nececary to reproduce the problem. Alternative as second step I could make a mini project (with TWSocket just connecting to someone or something) that you can test, but let's try first step 1. --- Rgds, Wilfried [TeamICS] http://www.overbyte.be/eng/overbyte/teamics.html http://www.mestdagh.biz -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] Freeze when using smtp after recreating itsparentform
Arno and others, More facts and thoughts that perhaps can shed some light on the error or point someone with more knowledge on ICS than me in the right direction: * You don't have to actually _send_ an email to get the error. It also happens if You just connect. To try this: - create form - press connect - close and free form (not application) - create form again - press connect and the program hangs * My workaround so far is to create another smtp component that exists all the time the application is running. I now discovered that this is also true with the Wsocket component. For instance put it on the main form and everything works on all computers. * Could it have something to do with disconnecting the "connection"? If we put a none used smtp component or none used wsocket component on the main form it automatically takes care of something that else get lost when the smtp component is freed on these computers? (And when the smtpform is created the second time its already there.) * I've now tried the earlier described demo program on 7 different computers. The error is shown on two of them. Both new Dell Precision with Win XP Intel Core Duo processor. * That everything works the first time indicates an internal component problem rather than external (firewalls, anti virus applications and so on) Thanks again guys! Best Regards Henrik -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För Arno Garrels Skickat: den 13 december 2006 17:52 Till: ICS support mailing Ämne: Re: [twsocket] Freeze when using smtp after recreating itsparentform Henrik, > am not willing to accept that it isn't possible to use ICS components > on "all" computers. I won't accept that too, but nobody from this list has confirmed the problem and nobody seems to know how to solve it. So it would help a lot if you could find the error condition. --- Arno Garrels [TeamICS] http://www.overbyte.be/eng/overbyte/teamics.html -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] Freeze when using smtp after recreating itsparentform
Hi Bjørnar! Thanks for Your input! As long as the OnRequestDone only is called with RqType = smtpQuit when the component is finished working, it should not be any problem releasing the parent form after that has happened?! Best Regards Henrik -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För Bjørnar Nielsen Skickat: den 13 december 2006 21:43 Till: 'ICS support mailing' Ämne: Re: [twsocket] Freeze when using smtp after recreating itsparentform I have not paid very much attention to this duscussion, but I want to say something about using ICS on many diffent computers and different platforms. My company have made software based on ICS that run on W95, W98, NT, W2000, WXP and Vista. The components used is HttpCli, SMTPCli, HtmlSMTPCli, POP3Cli, HttpServer, SocketServer and WSocket (including the SSL-versions of the components). I have no problems on any platforms. The only time I have had problems, have been other components that needs for example Mime32.dll or other dll's that come from installing programs that is not standard in the platform. Or maybe to old winsock. Some times I have had trouble when freeing a component from inside an eventhandler for the component, or freeing a form that contains a component that is still working, but that is bad programming, even if it made problems only on some of the platforms. Regards Bjørnar > > am not willing to accept that it isn't possible to use ICS > components > > on "all" computers. > > I won't accept that too, but nobody from this list has confirmed the > problem and nobody seems to know how to solve it. So it would help a > lot if you could find the error condition. > -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] Freeze when using smtp after recreating itsparentform
Hi Arno and thanks for Your effort!
I'm sorry to say that Your answer doesn't promote ICS at all. I don't
possess enough knowledge about winsock and smtp to be absolutely sure but I
am not willing to accept that it isn't possible to use ICS components on
"all" computers. (You can see the answers on Your questions in Your message
below.)
If I can't be sure it's going to work on the majority of my customers
computers I can not use ICS smtp components.
So, since I really like ICS I go at it once more; These are the known facts:
- Everything works on all tested computers if we let one smtp component
exist at _all_ time when the application is running. (It doesn't have to be
the one used to send the emails. See my work around code). As I said I have
almost no knowledge about smpt communication (that's why I use ICS) but
isn't this a tell tail about the error that obviously can appear in the
component under certain circumstances...?
- The recreate approach (create the component when needed and free when
ready) works on all computers using other smtp components, for instance with
Indy. (Indy has problems with Swedish characters in the subject so I must
switch to use some other smtp component. I already use ICS in another
application so I would very much like to use ICS in all of my application.)
- Arno: Even if we don't understand _why_ it works: Is there any harm using
the strange work around I attached earlier? (Just to bee on the safe side on
computers where the component error may show...)
Sorry to bother You all with these emails.
I really appreciate all the help I get!
Best Regards
Henrik
-Ursprungligt meddelande-
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Arno Garrels
Skickat: den 12 december 2006 18:40
Till: ICS support mailing
Ämne: Re: [twsocket] Freeze when using smtp after recreating itsparentform
Henrik,
I still guess that it's caused by any crap process running on this box. Why
else does it not happen on other computers as well?
[Henrik]: It does happen on other computers. I assure You that the one I use
were I get the same freeze as my customer, has no real-time protection
software, internet security suites or malicious software, anything like
that.
I don't know the Norman software, but have you tried to uninstall it?
[Henrik]: This is not the problem as You can read in my earlier posts. (FYI:
It's a widespread Antivirus software from Norway.)
I would also check the auto-started processes as well and turn them off one
after the other. Then I would search for strange processes in the process
list that do not exist on the other, working boxes. That's at least worth a
try.
[Henrik]: Even though my opinion I wrote early in this mail, that I can't
check this on all my customers computers, I've checked this on my test
computer. Everything seems ok.
---
Arno Garrels [TeamICS]
http://www.overbyte.be/eng/overbyte/teamics.html
Henrik wrote:
> Hello Wilfred!
>
> Yes, I get the same behavior when running the application from within
> the IDE. So I traced the code up until the application stops to
> respond.
> (And
> yes, we mean the same thing: the application freezes or hangs so that
> You can't quit and You can not move or close the window.)
>
> The trace disappears in the function
> WSocket_Synchronized_WSAAsyncSelect in WSocket.pas. You can see the
> actual line where something happens in the code snippet below:
>
> function WSocket_Synchronized_WSAAsyncSelect(
>s: TSocket; HWindow: HWND;
>wMsg: u_int; lEvent: Longint): Integer; begin
> SaveTrace('Start WSocket.pas: function
> WSocket_Synchronized_WSAAsyncSelect');
>
> if @FWSAAsyncSelect = nil then
> @FWSAAsyncSelect := WSocketGetProc('WSAAsyncSelect');
>
> SaveTrace('Hang on the line below this row: Result :=
> FWSAAsyncSelect...');
>
> Result := FWSAAsyncSelect(s, HWindow, wMsg, lEvent); // <--
> Something happens here
>
> SaveTrace('Hang on the line obove this row: Result :=
> FWSAAsyncSelect...');
> SaveTrace('End WSocket.pas: function
> WSocket_Synchronized_WSAAsyncSelect');
> end;
>
> Does this make any sense?
> Best Regards
> Henrik
>
>
>
> Ps. If there by any chance is someone who want a bit more "in depth
> facts", I also attached the following trace logs :-)
>
> I added the SaveTrace procedure seen in the snippet above at the first
> line and the last line of the following functions and procedures:
> WSocket.pas: function XSocketWindowProc
> WSocket.pas: procedure TCustomWSocket.WndProc
> WSocket.pas: procedure TCustomWSocket.WMAsyncGetHostByName
> WSocket.pas: procedure TCustomWSocket.TriggerDNSLookupDone
> SmtpPr
Re: [twsocket] TWSocket Digest, Vol 199, Issue 2 (Aleksey Potjomkin)
> >For your next message, be sure to use a proper subject. Using a proper > >subject enhance your chances to get an answer. > Is it OK now ? Hi Aleksey! I'm also new to this but I think what Francois meant was that You should _continue_ to use the subject that describes the contents of the thread You are answering. It makes it easier for everyone to follow the thread and se what it is about. I don't use Digest mode but as I have understood it You get one mail with a "standard subject" describing what volume and issue it is and the separate messages attached as separate files. I think You should not answer that mail directly (at least not without replacing its subject first...) Instead I think You can open the attached message You want to send an answer to and reply to that one. (If You use non Digest mode every message arrives separately and You can answer them directly.) Well I don't know if that explained anything but I gave it a try :-) Regards Henrik -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] Freeze when using smtp after recreating its parentform
Hello Wilfred!
Yes, I get the same behavior when running the application from within the
IDE. So I traced the code up until the application stops to respond. (And
yes, we mean the same thing: the application freezes or hangs so that You
can't quit and You can not move or close the window.)
The trace disappears in the function WSocket_Synchronized_WSAAsyncSelect in
WSocket.pas. You can see the actual line where something happens in the code
snippet below:
function WSocket_Synchronized_WSAAsyncSelect(
s: TSocket; HWindow: HWND;
wMsg: u_int; lEvent: Longint): Integer;
begin
SaveTrace('Start WSocket.pas: function
WSocket_Synchronized_WSAAsyncSelect');
if @FWSAAsyncSelect = nil then
@FWSAAsyncSelect := WSocketGetProc('WSAAsyncSelect');
SaveTrace('Hang on the line below this row: Result :=
FWSAAsyncSelect...');
Result := FWSAAsyncSelect(s, HWindow, wMsg, lEvent); // <--
Something happens here
SaveTrace('Hang on the line obove this row: Result :=
FWSAAsyncSelect...');
SaveTrace('End WSocket.pas: function
WSocket_Synchronized_WSAAsyncSelect');
end;
Does this make any sense?
Best Regards
Henrik
Ps. If there by any chance is someone who want a bit more "in depth facts",
I also attached the following trace logs :-)
I added the SaveTrace procedure seen in the snippet above at the first line
and the last line of the following functions and procedures:
WSocket.pas: function XSocketWindowProc
WSocket.pas: procedure TCustomWSocket.WndProc
WSocket.pas: procedure TCustomWSocket.WMAsyncGetHostByName
WSocket.pas: procedure TCustomWSocket.TriggerDNSLookupDone
SmtpProt.pas: procedure TCustomSmtpClient.WSocketDnsLookupDone
WSocket.pas: procedure TCustomSocksWSocket.Connect;
WSocket.pas: procedure TCustomWSocket.Connect
WSocket.pas: function WSocket_Synchronized_WSAAsyncSelect
So after the ConnectButton in the example is pressed I get the following
results on computers where everything works:
First time the SmtpTestForm is created and ConnectButton is pressed:
Start WSocket.pas: function XSocketWindowProc
End WSocket.pas: function XSocketWindowProc
Start WSocket.pas: function XSocketWindowProc
End WSocket.pas: function XSocketWindowProc
Start WSocket.pas: function XSocketWindowProc
End WSocket.pas: function XSocketWindowProc
Start WSocket.pas: function XSocketWindowProc
End WSocket.pas: function XSocketWindowProc
Start WSocket.pas: function XSocketWindowProc
End WSocket.pas: function XSocketWindowProc
Start WSocket.pas: function XSocketWindowProc
Start WSocket.pas: procedure TCustomWSocket.WndProc
End WSocket.pas: procedure TCustomWSocket.WndProc
End WSocket.pas: function XSocketWindowProc
Start WSocket.pas: function XSocketWindowProc
Start WSocket.pas: procedure TCustomWSocket.WndProc
End WSocket.pas: procedure TCustomWSocket.WndProc
End WSocket.pas: function XSocketWindowProc
Start WSocket.pas: function XSocketWindowProc
Start WSocket.pas: procedure TCustomWSocket.WndProc
Start WSocket.pas: procedure TCustomWSocket.WMAsyncGetHostByName
Start WSocket.pas: procedure TCustomWSocket.TriggerDNSLookupDone
Start SmtpProt.pas: procedure TCustomSmtpClient.WSocketDnsLookupDone
Start WSocket.pas: procedure TCustomSocksWSocket.Connect
Start WSocket.pas: procedure TCustomWSocket.Connect
Start WSocket.pas: function
WSocket_Synchronized_WSAAsyncSelect
Hang on the line below this row: Result :=
FWSAAsyncSelect...
Hang on the line obove this row: Result :=
FWSAAsyncSelect...
End WSocket.pas: function
WSocket_Synchronized_WSAAsyncSelect
End WSocket.pas: procedure TCustomWSocket.Connect
End SmtpProt.pas: procedure TCustomSmtpClient.WSocketDnsLookupDone
End WSocket.pas: procedure TCustomWSocket.TriggerDNSLookupDone
End WSocket.pas: procedure TCustomWSocket.WMAsyncGetHostByName
End WSocket.pas: procedure TCustomWSocket.WndProc
End WSocket.pas: function XSocketWindowProc
Start WSocket.pas: function XSocketWindowProc
Start WSocket.pas: procedure TCustomWSocket.WndProc
End WSocket.pas: procedure TCustomWSocket.WndProc
End WSocket.pas: function XSocketWindowProc
Start WSocket.pas: function XSocketWindowProc
Start WSocket.pas: procedure TCustomWSocket.WndProc
End WSocket.pas: procedure TCustomWSocket.WndProc
End WSocket.pas: function XSocketWindowProc
Start WSocket.pas: function XSocketWindowProc
Start WSocket.pas: procedure TCustomWSocket.WndProc
End WSocket.pas: procedure TCustomWSocket.WndProc
End WSocket.pas: function XSocketWindowProc
Start WSocket.pas: function XSocketWindowProc
End WSocket.pas: function XSocketWindowProc
Start WSocket.pas: function XSocketWindowProc
End WSocket.pas: function XSocketWindowProc
I close the
Re: [twsocket] Freeze when using smtp after recreating itsparentform
> > > > Question: We do understeand the word 'Freeze' the right way ? Form > > cannot moved, closed, application cannot quit, etc... Right ? > > > It was writen in some previous posting that the application was > then at 50% cpu, so on a hyperthreaded cpu, the application is in > some fast loop, i gues It's an Intel Core Duo on the machine I use to duplicate the problem. Can the type of processor be a problem in this case? // Henrik -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] Freeze when using smtp after recreating its parent form
Hi Marcelo! Ok, I didn't realize that that was what it was. Thanks for the clarification! I tried it in the example application but I still get the same freeze when trying to connect after the second time the form is created... Any other ideas? To rephrase a solution to the problem: If I use the standard example applications or if I put the smtp component on the main form of my own application, everything works fine on all computers since the main form is not released until the application is closed. It is when the form containing the smtp-component is created and freed when I want to send an email that I get the freezing problem the second time it is done. So why not just put it on the main form? Well I want to have the capability to send e-mails from many applications so it is convenient to have a separate "e-mail unit" with an Execute-function that I can call from my applications. Execute takes care of everything from creating the form that contains the smtp component and shows the sending status to initiating the properties of the smtp component with the parameters passed to Execute. It tries to send the email and returns true if the email was sent. Once again: All suggestions are appreciated. Thank You in advance! Best Regards Henrik -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För Marcelo Grossi Skickat: den 11 december 2006 17:41 Till: ICS support mailing Ämne: Re: [twsocket] Freeze when using smtp after recreating itsparentform Hi, Procedure Variable is a variable that has scope only for a given procedure. Example: procedure MyForm.ButtonSendMailClick(Sender : TObject); var MySendMailForm : TMySendMailForm; <-- Procedure Variable, for its only accessible inside this procedure (ButtonSendMailClick)... begin MySendMailForm := TMySendMailForm.Create(params..); etc... . end; Regards, Marcelo Grossi >> My final remark was that I normally have the form >> as a procedure variable as it is not needed to be >> defined outside the buttonclick event and maybe that >> also solves your issue. > > I don't know if I understand You correctly... > > Best Regards > Henrik > -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] Freeze when using smtp after recreating its parentform
Hi again Frans! > Sorry, for not expressing myself any better. No need for excuse, it was probably I who misunderstood You... > My question was "If you run the debug and while > entring the buttonclick is the .release finished > so did you find the form to be free-ed already" Yes, I think so. (The freezing occurs when trying to connect the second time the SmtpTestForm is created) > and my second remark was "If you replace the .release > with .free is the problem still there?". Yes, it's still there (and also if using Action := caFree in OnClose) > My final remark was that I normally have the form > as a procedure variable as it is not needed to be > defined outside the buttonclick event and maybe that > also solves your issue. I don't know if I understand You correctly but I think I'm doing the same; I have a separate email unit in my code library with a single Execute function that takes the necessary e-mail settings as parameters (host, emailaddress and so on), shows a status form and returns true or false depending on if the email was sent or not. This function takes care of everything for me so I can use it to send email from any application just using the Execute function. Best Regards Henrik -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] Freeze when using smtp after recreating itsparentform
Hello again Arno! > Hmm, your 'workaround' doesn't sound logical, why > should a secondary instance of a _V5_ component > have any effects, strange? No I know, it isn't logical but since I want to free my forms it is the only way I so far have been able to solve it... > Do you close the SMTP-form while mail is been sent? No, I click the button to create and show the SmtpTestForm. In SmtpTestForm I click the "All-in-one" button. I wait until the line "All-in-One done!" is written in the Info messages memo. Then I close the form with the X in the upper right corner. Back to the first form I once again press the button to show SmtpTestForm and when pressing "All-in-one" (or "Connect") button the program freezes. > Is the SMTP-form yet destroyed when you create another one? Well I think so...? I do not get any error messages and I get the same behavior when using Free instead of Release or if I set Action := caFree in SmtpTestForm.OnClose. > When does it freeze exactely (try the buttons on the left, > Connect etc. instead)? When I'm trying to connect. > How is the CPU load when it freezes? MailSnd constant on 50% and "system idle" (I don't know the English term) has 50% > What is different with the two boxes, any > Anti Virus software, any personal firewall etc.? It is different Anti Virus software (Norman on the one with the problem and McAfee on the other) otherwise I can not come up with anything that differs... I also tried the exe on a third computer also with Norman Anti Virus and everything works there as well so it doesn't seem to have anything to do with Norman. Thanks once more //Henrik -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För Arno Garrels Skickat: den 11 december 2006 15:06 Till: ICS support mailing Ämne: Re: [twsocket] Freeze when using smtp after recreating itsparentform [Message from Arno included above...] --- Arno Garrels [TeamICS] http://www.overbyte.be/eng/overbyte/teamics.html Henrik wrote: > Hi Arno and thank You for the reply! > > I use V2.32 of SmtpProt.pas (the one You get when clicking "Download > the latest ICS-V5 Distribution" on overbyte.be) and Delphi7. > > Trying to solve this mystery I have now discovered two things: > * Since You did not experience any problem I decided to test the > example application on another computer by copying the exe-file. Here > the second time I show the SmtpTestForm and presses the "All-in-one" > button everything works ok and the mail is being sent as expected!!! > Do You have any ideas on what can be the difference between these > computers that leads to the freeze problem on just one of them? (both > has Win XP SP2 and the latest Windows update patches) > > * I don't know if this gives any clues but a workaround on the > computer where the problems appear is to either not destroy the form > OR create a dummy smtpCli component like in the code below! > > procedure TForm2.Button1Click(Sender: TObject); > var dummySmtpCli : TSmtpCli; > alreadyCreated: Boolean; > i: integer; > begin > SmtpTestForm := TSmtpTestForm.Create(Application); > > // Workaround that prevents freezing on some computers > alreadyCreated := false; > if Application.ComponentCount > 0 then > begin > for i := 0 to Application.ComponentCount-1 do > begin > if Application.Components[i].Name = 'DummySmtpClient' then > begin > alreadyCreated := true; > BREAK; > end; > end; > end; > if not(alreadyCreated) then > begin > dummySmtpCli := TSmtpCli.Create(Application); > dummySmtpCli.Name := 'DummySmtpClient'; > end; > > try > SmtpTestForm.ShowModal; > finally > SmtpTestForm.Release; > end; > end; > > > Any further thoughts on the matter is greatly appreciated! > // Henrik > > -Ursprungligt meddelande- > Från: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:twsocket- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] För Arno Garrels > Skickat: den 11 december 2006 10:32 > Till: ICS support mailing > Ämne: Re: [twsocket] Freeze when using smtp after recreating its > parentform > > Hello Henrik, > > Just tested with latest V5 beta, but works great? > > --- > Arno Garrels [TeamICS] > http://www.overbyte.be/eng/overbyte/teamics.html > > > Henrik wrote: >> Hi! >> >> I have probably misunderstood something because I get the same >> behavior described below no matter which of the components SmtpCli, >> SyncSmtpCli and HtmlSmtpCli I
Re: [twsocket] Freeze when using smtp after recreating its parentform
Hi Arno and thank You for the reply! I use V2.32 of SmtpProt.pas (the one You get when clicking "Download the latest ICS-V5 Distribution" on overbyte.be) and Delphi7. Trying to solve this mystery I have now discovered two things: * Since You did not experience any problem I decided to test the example application on another computer by copying the exe-file. Here the second time I show the SmtpTestForm and presses the "All-in-one" button everything works ok and the mail is being sent as expected!!! Do You have any ideas on what can be the difference between these computers that leads to the freeze problem on just one of them? (both has Win XP SP2 and the latest Windows update patches) * I don't know if this gives any clues but a workaround on the computer where the problems appear is to either not destroy the form OR create a dummy smtpCli component like in the code below! procedure TForm2.Button1Click(Sender: TObject); var dummySmtpCli : TSmtpCli; alreadyCreated: Boolean; i: integer; begin SmtpTestForm := TSmtpTestForm.Create(Application); // Workaround that prevents freezing on some computers alreadyCreated := false; if Application.ComponentCount > 0 then begin for i := 0 to Application.ComponentCount-1 do begin if Application.Components[i].Name = 'DummySmtpClient' then begin alreadyCreated := true; BREAK; end; end; end; if not(alreadyCreated) then begin dummySmtpCli := TSmtpCli.Create(Application); dummySmtpCli.Name := 'DummySmtpClient'; end; try SmtpTestForm.ShowModal; finally SmtpTestForm.Release; end; end; Any further thoughts on the matter is greatly appreciated! // Henrik -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För Arno Garrels Skickat: den 11 december 2006 10:32 Till: ICS support mailing Ämne: Re: [twsocket] Freeze when using smtp after recreating its parentform Hello Henrik, Just tested with latest V5 beta, but works great? --- Arno Garrels [TeamICS] http://www.overbyte.be/eng/overbyte/teamics.html Henrik wrote: > Hi! > > I have probably misunderstood something because I get the same > behavior described below no matter which of the components SmtpCli, > SyncSmtpCli and HtmlSmtpCli I use. > > The problem has to do with freeing the smtp-components parent form. > You can easily duplicate the behavior with one of the standard demo > applications: * Open Your favorite demo of MailSnd, MimeTst or > MailHtml. (I proceed with MailSnd-demo below.) > * Add a new form with a button to the project. Write the following in > the buttons OnClick method: > procedure TForm2.Button1Click(Sender: TObject); > begin > SmtpTestForm := TSmtpTestForm.Create(Application); > try > SmtpTestForm.ShowModal; > finally > SmtpTestForm.Release; > end; > end; > * Click on the menu: "Project" - "Options", and remove the > SmtpTestFrom from the "Auto-createForms" list. > * Run the application and click the button. SmtpTestForm opens and You > can send lots of e-mails. > * Close SmtpTestForm and press the button again. Try to send yet > another email and You get stuck! > > I guess I'm doing something fundamentally wrong?! I have narrowed it > down to that everything works as expected if I don't release the form. > (I get the same error when setting Action to caFree in > SmtpTestFrom.OnClose.) > > Is it not a good idea to free a manually created form? > > Best Regards > Henrik -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] Freeze when using smtp after recreating its parentform
Hi Frans! Yes, each time You press the button the form is created and then released. You also get the same problem if You set Action to caFree in the OnClose of the created form. procedure TForm2.Button1Click(Sender: TObject); begin SmtpTestForm := TSmtpTestForm.Create(Application); SmtpTestForm.ShowModal; end; procedure TSmtpTestForm.FormClose(Sender: TObject; var Action: TCloseAction); begin Action := caFree; end; Also read my response to Arno. I'm very thankful for all the help I can get! // Henrik -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För Frans van Daalen Skickat: den 11 december 2006 10:39 Till: ICS support mailing Ämne: Re: [twsocket] Freeze when using smtp after recreating its parentform - Original Message - From: "Henrik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 9:59 AM Subject: [twsocket] Freeze when using smtp after recreating its parent form > Hi! > > I have probably misunderstood something because I get the same behavior > described below no matter which of the components SmtpCli, SyncSmtpCli and > HtmlSmtpCli I use. > > The problem has to do with freeing the smtp-components parent form. You > can > easily duplicate the behavior with one of the standard demo applications: > * Open Your favorite demo of MailSnd, MimeTst or MailHtml. (I proceed > with > MailSnd-demo below.) > * Add a new form with a button to the project. Write the following in the > buttons OnClick method: > procedure TForm2.Button1Click(Sender: TObject); > begin > SmtpTestForm := TSmtpTestForm.Create(Application); > try > SmtpTestForm.ShowModal; > finally > SmtpTestForm.Release; > end; > end; When entering the second time is the form already released then? I normally just call .free never used .released. I also make the SmtpTestForm a procedure based variable in these kind of constructions. -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
[twsocket] Freeze when using smtp after recreating its parent form
Hi! I have probably misunderstood something because I get the same behavior described below no matter which of the components SmtpCli, SyncSmtpCli and HtmlSmtpCli I use. The problem has to do with freeing the smtp-components parent form. You can easily duplicate the behavior with one of the standard demo applications: * Open Your favorite demo of MailSnd, MimeTst or MailHtml. (I proceed with MailSnd-demo below.) * Add a new form with a button to the project. Write the following in the buttons OnClick method: procedure TForm2.Button1Click(Sender: TObject); begin SmtpTestForm := TSmtpTestForm.Create(Application); try SmtpTestForm.ShowModal; finally SmtpTestForm.Release; end; end; * Click on the menu: "Project" - "Options", and remove the SmtpTestFrom from the "Auto-createForms" list. * Run the application and click the button. SmtpTestForm opens and You can send lots of e-mails. * Close SmtpTestForm and press the button again. Try to send yet another email and You get stuck! I guess I'm doing something fundamentally wrong?! I have narrowed it down to that everything works as expected if I don't release the form. (I get the same error when setting Action to caFree in SmtpTestFrom.OnClose.) Is it not a good idea to free a manually created form? Best Regards Henrik -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
