We have a VAR who would prefer to load Universe and their application on a
supported platform, but we would prefer not to pay for RHEL 6. I searched
the list and found a few tidbits, but does anyone have a good list of what
changes might be required to successfully run Universe 11.1 on CentOS? How
We use CentOS for our Linux web servers, and for most of our customers.
CentOS is RHEL. It's compiled from the RedHat sources, which are freely
available. The only changes the CentOS team makes is the logos. If it will
run on RHEL, it will run on CentOS.
Larry Hiscock
Western Computer
Larry knows more than me!
Dale
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The only concern I might have is if you have to bring Rocket in for support...
will they support it.
Perry
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From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Dawn Wolthuis
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 7:42 AM
To:
Dawn,
You could easily spend more on your var's efforts than the RHEL 6 and
have no assurance of success.
Dale
On 07/17/2013 08:41 AM, Dawn Wolthuis wrote:
We have a VAR who would prefer to load Universe and their application on a
supported platform, but we would prefer not to pay for RHEL
The only effective difference is that CentOS is that it will always be slightly
behind RHEL. This is because it is re-compiled from RHEL sources. Those sources
have to be released before work can start. How long? It can be significant...
RHEL 6.0 released Nov 10, 2010. CentOS 6.0 release
While CentOS is effectively RHEL, and generally speaking, runs fine, there is
always the chance that a difference is introduced (say an environment
difference on the machine that compiled the source) that could adversely
support UniVerse. CentOS 32-bit will be easier for you as our RHEL port is
I have been personally using universe on CentOS since version 5.1 (of
CentOS) with ZERO issues, now granted I am using this personally with
the personal edition of universe, the one issue you would have would be
byte ordering (easily fixable) if coming from windows but you would have
that with
I read this as stable version
So that's a good thing :)
You don't want to be their beta tester
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From: Robert Porter ropor...@ochsner.org
To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Wed, Jul 17, 2013 7:32 am
Subject: Re: [U2] CentOS with Universe?
The
Are you saying your client wouldn't pay $750 for Windows Server 2008
R2? ...and you actually get paid? :-)
Bill
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*From:* dw...@tincat-group.com
*To:* U2 Users List
On 17/07/13 15:31, Robert Porter wrote:
The only effective difference is that CentOS is that it will always be
slightly behind RHEL. This is because it is re-compiled from RHEL sources.
Those sources have to be released before work can start. How long? It can be
significant... RHEL 6.0
From: Dawn Wolthuis
We have a VAR who would prefer to load Universe and their
application on a supported platform, but we would prefer not to pay
for RHEL 6. I searched the list and found a few tidbits, but does
anyone
have a good list of what changes might be required to successfully
run
Hi Bill -- Ah, this time I'm in the client seat, desiring a hosted solution
for Universe. We will choose the same box for starters for the web server
as well. The VAR runs IIS on Windows, but Apache on linux. Given that info,
which OS would you select for Universe 11.1? --dawn
On Wed, Jul 17,
In Dawn's case, I agree with Tony. At larger scales though, support from RHEL
isn't just bug fixes that CentOS gets eventually, but is also system
configuration assistance for issues, particularly around performance. If you
are not running a production server yourself, but are using it for
From: George Gallen
Maybe because of Pick's lack of organization enforcement - that is
one
of it's failings - it puts all the burden of documentation onto the
programmers
That's the essence of our being and arguably the strength of the
platform: RDBMS sites have DBA's separate from the
Dawn:
I kind of figured. :-) Whatever you decide, I'm sure would be fine. I
would just not look for anything free, because nothing is free.
I run everything on Windows because everything in the O/S is updated and
I know every machine I run is running the same version of Windows. It
Hi Dan,
When will Universe be 64-bit? This year, next year, never. I am not after
specific dates, but is it on the project lifeline?
Cheers
Phil
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From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Daniel McGrath
On 17/07/2013 19:09, Bill Haskett wrote:
Dawn:
I kind of figured. :-) Whatever you decide, I'm sure would be fine.
I would just not look for anything free, because nothing is free.
It's only free if your time is worth nothing - I think that's one of
Tony's quotes. Just don't forget,
I'm not sure why you'd say that. I wouldn't create a caveat that my
time is worth nothing; thus, as Tony says, Linux ain't free.
I have very little trouble with Windows, so, again, I'm not sure what
you refer to about not putting IIS and the dbms server on the same box
and face it towards
But.
Speaking of Universe on Windows, we've gone through a hundred or so Windows
upgrades, and I can't point out one that's had any affect on Universe at all.
So while it's true that Windows upgrades can break things, they don't seem to
be breaking Universe.
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From: Susan Joslyn [mailto:sjos...@sjplus.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 4:55 PM
To: 'Wjhonson'
Subject: RE: [U2] Fwd: UML mapping tool for MV (UniVerse)
Hi Will,
You can prevent creation of new items for all dictionaries or a designated
set of 'sensitive' files. You can also allow
Has anyone setup and used Unix/Universe triggers. Where do you start? Any
manuals to get started?
Regards,
Dan Jorgenson
Senior Systems Analyst
SICK, Inc.
6900 West 110th Street
Minneapolis, MN 55438 USA
Phone: 952.941.6780
Fax: 952.941.9287
Direct: 952.829.4732
http://www.sickusa.com
The shipping clerk's XP PC died.
I bought him a new Win7 PC. I guess I made the mistake of installing the
64-Bit Rocket ODBC.
When I tried to do an ODBC mapping, the United Parcel Service WorldShip
desktop software indicated something like an architecture incompatibility
when trying to connect
You need to use the 32bit ODBC Driver Manager which is under the a WOW64???
directory or something similar. I don't have access to a system at the
moment.
And then use the 32bit ODBC Driver.
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From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
\windows\syswow64
With Microsoft typical logic this is where 32 bit versions of commands reside
on x64. 64 bit ones are in system32.
Sent from my cell phone.
On 2013-07-17, at 3:50 PM, Phil Walker p...@gnosys.co.nz wrote:
You need to use the 32bit ODBC Driver Manager which is under the a
Yes, that is it. I always though it strange that the 64 bit ones are under
system 32, and 32 under 64sort of reverse psychology.
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From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Robert Houben
Sent: Thursday, 18
UniVerse is already 64-bit on AIX and HP-UX and have been for quite a while. We
plan on Windows 64-bit being out later this year (people are already beta
testing it) and are working on Linux and Solaris.
For most people, unless you are a really big system, you don't really get much
benefit
I agree... I think moving all the real stuff out of system32 would have been
monumental. And the WOW64 part of SysWOW64 stands for Windows On Windows-x64.
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From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Phil
Dawn, just to add my 0.02, I have a couple of production CentOS servers but run
UV on RHEL. UV is the most mission-critical app we have and I feel it would be
too much of a risk to run it on an unsupported platform. And I would take
Tony's point that Linux has the exact same update headaches
From: Robert Houben
\windows\syswow64
Rather than Windows On Windows I like to think Microsoft has built-in
World Of Warcraft.
With Microsoft typical logic this is where 32 bit versions of
commands
reside on x64. 64 bit ones are in system32.
(I know Robert is aware of why MS did the WoW
Thanks to all who responded. There is plenty of wisdom in the sum of all of
these posts. We are nailing down costs from the hosting provider for each
option. It looks like Windows 2008 Standard is less expensive per month
than RHEL 6 with the hosting site we are using (primarily because of the
Any reason you cannot do Apache on Windows?
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org on behalf of Dawn Wolthuis
dw...@tincat-group.com
Sent: Wednesday, 17 July 2013 8:26 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] CentOS
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