Re: Future and impact of ongoing projects in Linux world

amon schreef op 14-10-2016 18:11: I am not going to continue with this other than to correct some really strange assumptions. First, I was probably using Unix when the person who claims I must be amongst those who do not basics was still in nappies. Second, none of those suggestions will find

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On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 11:11:03 -0500, amon wrote: >none of those suggestions will find you anything if gvfs >has not even been installed. apropos only searched man pages >that are installed, the last I heard :-^ A default Ubuntu comes without a gvfs related man page installed? Somebody not using a

Re: Future and impact of ongoing projects in Linux world

I am not going to continue with this other than to correct some really strange assumptions. First, I was probably using Unix when the person who claims I must be amongst those who do not basics was still in nappies. Second, none of those suggestions will find you anything if gvfs has not even

Re: Future and impact of ongoing projects in Linux world

Oliver Grawert schreef op 14-10-2016 12:06: hi, Am Donnerstag, den 13.10.2016, 18:31 +0200 schrieb Ralf Mardorf: On Thu, 13 Oct 2016 17:42:29 +0200, Xen wrote: > > Can you please come out of your psychosis now? On Thu, 13 Oct 2016 17:49:24 +0200, Xen wrote:. >  > > Please quit, as you're not

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On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 12:06:51 +0200, Oliver Grawert wrote: >can you two please calm down a little and tame your personal attacks, >this isnt appropriate for an ubuntu list and this thread starts to >slowly seem to go out of band ... > >please lean back, take a deep breath and consider if the topic

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hi, Am Donnerstag, den 13.10.2016, 18:31 +0200 schrieb Ralf Mardorf: > On Thu, 13 Oct 2016 17:42:29 +0200, Xen wrote: > > > > Can you please come out of your psychosis now? > On Thu, 13 Oct 2016 17:49:24 +0200, Xen wrote:. > >  > > > > Please quit, as you're not providing helpful advice. >

Re: Future and impact of ongoing projects in Linux world

On Thu, 13 Oct 2016 17:42:29 +0200, Xen wrote: >Can you please come out of your psychosis now? On Thu, 13 Oct 2016 17:49:24 +0200, Xen wrote:. >Ralf Mardorf schreef op 12-10-2016 21:12: >> I seriously doubt that an Ubuntu maintainer will patch those man >> pages, in such a wrong way, but you are

Re: Future and impact of ongoing projects in Linux world

Ralf, maybe you should stop telling other people what they should do. Just saying. That no one needs your advice on what to do, no one is asking for it. You don't determine what people are free to do and what not, and you are no moderator here. You are producing a whole lot of noise giving

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On Wed, 12 Oct 2016 09:23:11 -0500, amon wrote: >So I think the simplest way to fix this issue is to add x-gvfs-show to >the mount or fstab man page. Those are the first place that most users >of such a feature are going to look. I seriously doubt that an Ubuntu maintainer will patch those man

Re: Future and impact of ongoing projects in Linux world

If a user needs special privileges to do something, then only grant the user the required privileges, no need to give admin privileges. If root does something, root can remount read only, set the immutable bit temporarily, but most important, even the admin should only become root, if required

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Xen: Thanks for the tip. That works. So I think the simplest way to fix this issue is to add x-gvfs-show to the mount or fstab man page. Those are the first place that most users of such a feature are going to look. -- +---+ | Dale

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Ralf Mardorf schreef op 11-10-2016 21:16: "These are all practically unused options." And they are. I have never come across a single file that had the immutable bit set or I would have found out. If the graphical tools don't support it it won't be much use unless automated system

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On Wed, 12 Oct 2016 12:26:22 +0200, Xen wrote: >And I agree that this is not a user problem because it would be /every >user/'s problem. Something like this must work by default, ie. gvfs >shouldn't prevent stuff from being mounted. And if it does mount, it >should honour fstab. If it doesn't

Re: Future and impact of ongoing projects in Linux world

amon schreef op 12-10-2016 4:37: The problem is that in my desktop I end up with a race. The desktop detects the new device and ignores cryptab and fstab and asks if I want to mount or whatever. I have to give it a NO and then go to a root shell and execute a manual cryptdisk_start and mount

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On Wed, 2016-10-12 at 00:29 -0500, amon wrote: > > > Ralf replies: > > > On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 21:37:45 -0500, amon wrote: > > > So my question is, how do you make that userland automounter recognize > > > that the disk is just not up for grabs? It does not seem to even > > > look at cryptab or

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Ralf replies: On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 21:37:45 -0500, amon wrote: So my question is, how do you make that userland automounter recognize that the disk is just not up for grabs? It does not seem to even look at cryptab or fstab for a hint. The appropriate mailing list for a user question, is the

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Xens says: 2) I would love a feature in which I could add a blkid to fstab such that if I plug that particular USB or other storage device into my machine, that instead of mounting in /media/user/diskname, it would mount just like any other disk would at boot time. I do this all

Re: Future and impact of ongoing projects in Linux world

Tom H schreef op 11-10-2016 22:36: What I mean by maintain is make sure that updates are installed, just like on Windows and macOS. Aye. To me it is a detriment. I used to turn Windows Update off completely for years while I was running XP and 7. For me the incessant updates are only a

Re: Future and impact of ongoing projects in Linux world

On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 2:27 PM, Xen wrote: > Tom H schreef op 11-10-2016 16:52: >> On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 1:01 PM, Xen wrote: I'll reply quickly to the beginning and read and reply to the rest tomorrow. >>> That's not really true. The vast majority

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On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 20:27:18 +0200, Xen wrote: >Tom H schreef op 11-10-2016 16:52: >> From skimming of this thread, it seems to me that you might be trying >> to work against the system in order to achieve your goal rather than >> use the tools that are provided, like people who run "chattr -i >>

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Tom H schreef op 11-10-2016 16:52: On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 1:01 PM, Xen wrote: That's not really true. The vast majority of people would go screaming for a Windows or Mac PC if they had Linux preinstalled. The level of system maintenance I would have to give to my family

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On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 1:01 PM, Xen wrote: > > That's not really true. The vast majority of people would go screaming > for a Windows or Mac PC if they had Linux preinstalled. > > The level of system maintenance I would have to give to my family for > a Linux box is about

Re: Future and impact of ongoing projects in Linux world

JMZ schreef op 10-10-2016 11:58: The vast majority of consumer boxes run Windows because of Microsoft's bundling deal with the manufacturers. It's nothing really to do with Windows performance or ease of use (both of which are poor). It's just that Mr./Ms. Everyday User doesn't really know

Re: Future and impact of ongoing projects in Linux world

amon schreef op 10-10-2016 15:53: Since the topic seems to be mounting of devices from user space... 1) You can use sshfs to mount pretty much any directory, anywhere to which you have password access on any mount point for which you have privs. I used to use it a lot. Works great. I

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Since the topic seems to be mounting of devices from user space... 1) You can use sshfs to mount pretty much any directory, anywhere to which you have password access on any mount point for which you have privs. I used to use it a lot. Works great. 2) I would love a feature in which I

Re: Future and impact of ongoing projects in Linux world

The vast majority of consumer boxes run Windows because of Microsoft's bundling deal with the manufacturers. It's nothing really to do with Windows performance or ease of use (both of which are poor). It's just that Mr./Ms. Everyday User doesn't really know much about computers, plugs the

Re: Future and impact of ongoing projects in Linux world

Daniel Llewellyn schreef op 09-10-2016 21:43: On 09/10/16 20:35, Xen wrote: Personally I think SystemD is lower level and in that sense more dependable and more broad...ly available. It might not do the same things but... at least it is something both parties could use. Well, I would love a

Re: Future and impact of ongoing projects in Linux world

Daniel Llewellyn schreef op 09-10-2016 21:37: On 09/10/16 20:17, Daniel Llewellyn wrote: On 09/10/16 19:53, Xen wrote: As a feature request that you could try to get implemented by the gnome guys you could suggest to their issue-tracker that gvfs support KIO-slaves. Also would be worth

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 09/10/16 20:35, Xen wrote: > Personally I think SystemD is lower level and in that sense more > dependable and more broad...ly available. It might not do the same > things but... at least it is something both parties could use. Well, I would

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 09/10/16 20:17, Daniel Llewellyn wrote: > On 09/10/16 19:53, Xen wrote: As a feature request that you could > try to get implemented by the gnome guys you could suggest to their > issue-tracker that gvfs support KIO-slaves. Also would be worth >

Re: Future and impact of ongoing projects in Linux world

Daniel Llewellyn schreef op 09-10-2016 21:17: On 09/10/16 19:53, Xen wrote: I am pretty sure that any application that does not support GVFS will not see those mounts so easily. You will have to symlink them and that defeats the purpose of the system in a certain sense. There is no default

Re: Future and impact of ongoing projects in Linux world

Ralf Mardorf schreef op 09-10-2016 20:12: Hi, this time I read your complete mail, I just didn't watch the video. A very last reply from me. If you notice, that low level software requires improvement, you could assume that this isn't something Ubuntu developers could change. A feature

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 09/10/16 19:53, Xen wrote: > I am pretty sure that any application that does not support GVFS > will not see those mounts so easily. You will have to symlink them > and that defeats the purpose of the system in a certain sense. > There is no

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Daniel Llewellyn schreef op 09-10-2016 19:39: OK, I'll bite.. On 09/10/16 18:26, Xen wrote: Daniel Llewellyn schreef op 09-10-2016 19:07: These are not consistently mounted, is what I was talking about. You will have to go to that mount point (browse to that network share) every time you

Re: Future and impact of ongoing projects in Linux world

Hi, this time I read your complete mail, I just didn't watch the video. A very last reply from me. If you notice, that low level software requires improvement, you could assume that this isn't something Ubuntu developers could change. A feature request send to upstream makes more sense, than a

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 OK, I'll bite.. On 09/10/16 18:26, Xen wrote: > Daniel Llewellyn schreef op 09-10-2016 19:07: These are not > consistently mounted, is what I was talking about. You will have to > go to that mount point (browse to that network share) every time >

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Daniel Llewellyn schreef op 09-10-2016 19:07: On 09/10/16 17:32, Xen wrote: The same is true with mounting samba shares, it is not possible with any degree of ease, today. Of course, I want to work on it, but I can't do everything alone, or at the same time. I'll just leave this here

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 09/10/16 17:32, Xen wrote: > The same is true with mounting samba shares, it is not possible > with any degree of ease, today. Of course, I want to work on it, > but I can't do everything alone, or at the same time. I'll just leave this here

Re: Future and impact of ongoing projects in Linux world

Colin Law schreef op 09-10-2016 16:48: On 9 October 2016 at 15:43, Xen wrote: Colin Law schreef op 09-10-2016 14:38: On 9 October 2016 at 12:56, Xen wrote: Colin Law schreef op 09-10-2016 9:28: ... I was not commenting on any particular topic,

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On 9 October 2016 at 15:43, Xen wrote: > Colin Law schreef op 09-10-2016 14:38: >> >> On 9 October 2016 at 12:56, Xen wrote: >>> >>> Colin Law schreef op 09-10-2016 9:28: ... I was not commenting on any particular topic, merely pointing out

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Colin Law schreef op 09-10-2016 14:38: On 9 October 2016 at 12:56, Xen wrote: Colin Law schreef op 09-10-2016 9:28: ... I was not commenting on any particular topic, merely pointing out that that Ralf (I think) said there are some things that Linux "does not allow" and

Re: Future and impact of ongoing projects in Linux world

On Sun, 9 Oct 2016 15:05:59 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >Users by default cannot use sudo to get user privileges >for good reasons. ^ ^superuser ;) -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify

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I didn't read all your trolling, however, what I already read is simply stupid. Users by default cannot use sudo to get user privileges for good reasons. The Ubuntu default should be, that just the first user, with the ID 1000, is able to get root privileges by sudo. On a multi-user system it's

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On 9 October 2016 at 12:56, Xen wrote: > Colin Law schreef op 09-10-2016 9:28: >> ... >> I was not commenting on any particular topic, merely pointing out that >> that Ralf (I think) said there are some things that Linux "does not >> allow" and you answered this with a post

Re: Future and impact of ongoing projects in Linux world

Colin Law schreef op 09-10-2016 9:28: On 8 October 2016 at 23:58, Xen wrote: Colin Law schreef op 08-10-2016 18:29: On 8 October 2016 at 17:21, Xen wrote: Ralf Mardorf schreef op 06-10-2016 12:42: Just a very laste note. On Wed, 2016-10-05 at

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On 8 October 2016 at 23:58, Xen wrote: > Colin Law schreef op 08-10-2016 18:29: >> >> On 8 October 2016 at 17:21, Xen wrote: >>> >>> Ralf Mardorf schreef op 06-10-2016 12:42: Just a very laste note. On Wed, 2016-10-05 at 22:29

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Colin Law schreef op 08-10-2016 18:29: On 8 October 2016 at 17:21, Xen wrote: Ralf Mardorf schreef op 06-10-2016 12:42: Just a very laste note. On Wed, 2016-10-05 at 22:29 +0200, Xen wrote: >> In Windows Yes you conveniently break off my statement but (I had to look

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On 8 October 2016 at 17:21, Xen wrote: > Ralf Mardorf schreef op 06-10-2016 12:42: >> >> Just a very laste note. >> >> On Wed, 2016-10-05 at 22:29 +0200, Xen wrote: >>> >>> >> In Windows >>> >>> Yes you conveniently break off my statement but (I had to look for it) >>> it was

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Ralf Mardorf schreef op 06-10-2016 12:42: Just a very laste note. On Wed, 2016-10-05 at 22:29 +0200, Xen wrote: >> In Windows Yes you conveniently break off my statement but (I had to look for it) it was about something that has *nothing* to do with security as it dealth with network shares.

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Brendan Perrine schreef op 06-10-2016 23:54: On Wed, 05 Oct 2016 14:49:21 +0200 Xen wrote: might not even be a problem. I honestly wonder why you need to run programs off a usb stick. I remember even when I was a windows users thinking why do I need that. I have run

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On Wed, 05 Oct 2016 14:49:21 +0200 Xen wrote: > might not even be a problem. I honestly wonder why you need to run programs off a usb stick. I remember even when I was a windows users thinking why do I need that. I have run entire installed systems off an external hard

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Colin Watson schreef op 05-10-2016 21:44: On Wed, Oct 05, 2016 at 04:23:38PM +0200, Xen wrote: Oliver Grawert schreef op 05-10-2016 14:41: >along with that click packages are user packages and being used in >ubuntu products on sale since 2015 (snaps will replace them >eventually). That just

Re: Future and impact of ongoing projects in Linux world

Just a very laste note. On Wed, 2016-10-05 at 22:29 +0200, Xen wrote: > >> In Windows > > Yes you conveniently break off my statement but (I had to look for it) > it was about something that has *nothing* to do with security as it > dealth with network shares. Yes, you mentioned Windows

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I reread all mails and read the new mails. I'm not interested in continuing the discussion. > > On 05 Oct 2016, at 16:23, Xen wrote: > > Oliver Grawert schreef op 05-10-2016 14:41: > >> > >> there is ... see ~/.xsession-errors and ~/.cache/upstart/ > >> (and there will be a

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Ralf Mardorf schreef op 05-10-2016 17:05: On 05 Oct 2016, at 16:30, Xen wrote: Ralf Mardorf schreef op 05-10-2016 15:31: let alone that some people don't use fstab at all on systemd installs. So what do they use instead? systemd I still use systemd with fstab. Are

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Ralf Mardorf schreef op 05-10-2016 17:02: o a On 05 Oct 2016, at 16:23, Xen wrote: Errors? Hopefully warnings, such as the GTK GUI crap. When launching a GUI by CLI I sometimes add 2>/dev/null ;). KScreen. Lots of it. Of course there are probably "session"

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On Wed, Oct 05, 2016 at 04:23:38PM +0200, Xen wrote: > Oliver Grawert schreef op 05-10-2016 14:41: > >along with that click packages are user packages and being used in > >ubuntu products on sale since 2015 (snaps will replace them > >eventually). > > That just means a user can install them, not

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> On 05 Oct 2016, at 16:30, Xen wrote: > Ralf Mardorf schreef op 05-10-2016 15:31: >> let alone that some people don't use fstab at all on systemd installs. > > So what do they use instead? systemd I still use systemd with fstab. Regards, Ralf -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss

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o > On 05 Oct 2016, at 16:23, Xen wrote: > > Oliver Grawert schreef op 05-10-2016 14:41: >> >> there is ... see ~/.xsession-errors and ~/.cache/upstart/ >> (and there will be a systemd one as well, once switched to systemd user >> sessions) > > The first file is loaded

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Ralf Mardorf schreef op 05-10-2016 15:56: On 05 Oct 2016, at 14:59, Himanshu Shekhar wrote: Standardized things, at least for a distro. Each distro has got it's policy, a distro specific standard. We could chose the distro that fits best to our needs. I didn't want to respond to this idea,

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Ralf Mardorf schreef op 05-10-2016 15:44: On 05 Oct 2016, at 14:49, Xen wrote: Ion Windows it is very easy to put some application on some usb stick and run it from there, but this is hardly possible even in Linux. You don't need to link against shared libraries. Neither

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Oliver Grawert schreef op 05-10-2016 14:44: i must say that in many aspects i find nmcli more powerfull than ifconfig for scripting ...  it changed a lot within the last years ...  one big disadvantage is still that it requires a lot of dependencies ip or ifconfig do not require ... but disk

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Oliver Grawert schreef op 05-10-2016 14:41: hi, On Mi, 2016-10-05 at 04:05 +0200, Xen wrote: Xen schreef op 05-10-2016 3:32: > > In short, the discrepancy between what a user can do and what root > can > do, is too big. The result of this is that most services are installed completely 

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> On 05 Oct 2016, at 14:59, Himanshu Shekhar wrote: > Standardized things, at least for a distro. Each distro has got it's policy, a distro specific standard. We could chose the distro that fits best to our needs. There are many other standards, some are unix alike, some are Linux specific

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> On 05 Oct 2016, at 14:49, Xen wrote: > Ion Windows it is very easy to put some application on some usb stick and run > it from there, but this is hardly possible even in Linux. You don't need to link against shared libraries. Neither a container, nor snap is required to

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> On 05 Oct 2016, at 14:44, Oliver Grawert wrote: > disk space is cheap in most cases Full ACK. This is very important. I dislike bloatware, but at least disk space is no issue nowadays. Regards, Ralf -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list

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> On 05 Oct 2016, at 14:41, Oliver Grawert wrote: >> On Mi, 2016-10-05 at 04:05 +0200, Xen wrote: >> In terms of logging: why is there not a daemon that can run for a >> user >> specifically? > > there is ... see ~/.xsession-errors and ~/.cache/upstart/ > (and there will be a

Re: Future and impact of ongoing projects in Linux world

Moreover, I think that Linux has come a long way and gained much maturity on the server and enterprise side, thanks to parallel efforts of "Canonical" and "RedHat" (and "Google"). The sector which Linux has long way to go is Desktop / Laptop and daily computing. Why do you think people prefer to

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I appreciate Xen's first response stating how things go on in Windows and Apple. I know that snaps and containers are very different things and function differently. I was less concerned about snaps coming to Ubuntu, than two standards, namely Snaps and Flatpak coming to Linux. Both are good in

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Ralf Mardorf schreef op 05-10-2016 14:11: On 05 Oct 2016, at 12:09, Xen wrote: [snip] Main problems in Linux have not been solved and now big solutions are built on top of it, and the consequence is that those high level solutions must be as shabby as the low level

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hi, On Mi, 2016-10-05 at 14:21 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > PS: Since you mentioned Network Manager, I'm using scripts to either > connect by PPPoE or DHCP to the Internet. I don't have other needs > regarding networks. What is wrong with Network Manager, to provide > user-friendly network access?

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PS: Since you mentioned Network Manager, I'm using scripts to either connect by PPPoE or DHCP to the Internet. I don't have other needs regarding networks. What is wrong with Network Manager, to provide user-friendly network access? You are not forced to use Network manager, you could use other

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On 05 Oct 2016, at 12:09, Xen wrote: > [snip] Main problems in Linux have not been solved and now big solutions are > built on top of it, and the consequence is that those high level solutions > must be as shabby as the low level underneath, but now a 1000 fold worse, >

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JMZ schreef op 05-10-2016 7:50: Is there really a huge learning curve for .bashrc and xinit? .bashrc is mostly a way to make an alias list. What I fear about snappy and other modularized systems is unnecessary complexity. I fear that simple commands such as tar -t are going to be replaced with

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Ralf Mardorf schreef op 05-10-2016 9:16: On 05 Oct 2016, at 04:05, Xen "questioned" the way things are managed system wide and per user. I recommend to do either a minimalist Ubuntu install, e.g. use the server image and uncheck all recommended package groups, then start to install and set up

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My apologies for sending it off-list first, iPad MUAs are a PITA, unfortunately Linux based tablet PC can't be used for making music. On 05 Oct 2016, at 04:05, Xen "questioned" the way things are managed system wide and per user. I recommend to do either a minimalist Ubuntu install, e.g. use

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Is there really a huge learning curve for .bashrc and xinit? .bashrc is mostly a way to make an alias list. What I fear about snappy and other modularized systems is unnecessary complexity. I fear that simple commands such as tar -t are going to be replaced with a multiplicity of commands

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Himanshu Shekhar schreef op 03-10-2016 16:33: 3. Flatpak vs Snaps. Both are about to turn great. However, I feel like all major decision makers should come together to work on one standardized desktop ecosystem, and rule out the chaos of different distributions. Both are independent efforts to

Future and impact of ongoing projects in Linux world

Today, I gave a try on Unity 8 with Mir server. I appreciate the effort done by Canonical to bring Linux experience cross-platform. However, I have a few concerns: 1. The idea of convergence is good, but Desktop is Desktop and Tablet is Tablet. Desktop/Laptops have different input and