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Re: [Ugnet] The Real Museveni One Must Know

2006-08-23 Thread Y Yaobang

Hi,  Any more info on this?yY Yaobang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Mr. Mulindwa,You one time posted the material on The Real Museveni One Must Know on this net. Might you know if this book or script has been published, if so where?Please advise. Thanks.y  Real people. Real questions. Real answers. Share what you know.___Ugandanet mailing
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[Ugnet] The Real Museveni One Must Know

2006-08-19 Thread Y Yaobang

Mr. Mulindwa,You one time posted the material on The Real Museveni One Must Know on this net. Might you know if this book or script has been published, if so where?Please advise. Thanks.y 
		  
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Re: [Ugnet] Fwd: DP asks Museveni to stop secretive federo talks with Mengo

2006-08-02 Thread Y Yaobang

Which versionSimon Nume [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:MusamizeAt last someone is seeing the light.Numemusamize [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  and, Mu7 orders release of report on the murder of Kayiira ...Note: forwarded message attached.   Want to be your own boss? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 22:27:00 -0700 (PDT)From: musaja alumbwa [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: DP asks Museveni to stop secretive federo talks with
 MengoTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Balumbye Museveni okuteesa ne Mmengo ku FederoBya Ahmed MukiibiABA DP basabye Pulezidenti Museveni akomye okuteesa neMmengo mu nkukutu ku nsonga ya Federo wabula agateebitundu bya Uganda byonna biteese ku federo mulujjudde kubanga Federo nsonga ya ggwanga lyonna.Baagambye nti okukukuta ne Mmengo tekijja kuvvaamukalungi ne bamuwa amagezi ayite olukung'aanalw'abakulembeze n'abataka b'ebitundu bya Uganda byonnabatuule ku mmeeza emu bakkaanye.Museveni baabimugambidde mu nteseganya ze yabaddemun'abaamuvuganya mu kulonda kwa Pulezidenti okwakaggwaera aba UPC abaakuliddwa Miria Obote baawagidde DP ngabagamba nti nsonga ya Federo eteekwa okukkaanyizibwakonayo eve mu ddiiro.Enjuyi zonna zakkaanyizza okwongera okuteesa ku kyafedero mu kakiiko akagatta ebibiina by'obufuziakaatondeddwawo batuuke ku nzikiriziganya.Published on: Saturday, 29th July,
 2006http://www.bukeddekussande.co.ug/detail.php?mainNewsCategoryId=3newsCategoryId=168newsId=512106=Museveni akkirizza okufulumya lipoota y'}okuttibwa kwaKayiiraBya Ahmed MukiibiPULEZIDENTI Museveni akkirizza okufulumya lipoota kukutemulwa kw'omugenzi Dr. Andrew Lutankome Kayiira.Dr. Kayiira eyali akulira ekibiina kya Uganda FreedomMovement (UFM) yatemulwa nga March 7, 1987, e KkongeMakindye bwe yali mu maka ga munywayi we munnamawulireHenry Gombya.Aba DP baasinzidde mu nteeseganya ne PulezidentiMuseveni ku Lwokutaano ne bamusaba afulumye lipootaeno gy'atuddeko okumala emyaka kumpi 15.Ssaabawandiisi wa DP, Dr. Obil Ottoo yagambye ntiekisera kituuse ensonga y'okutemulwa kwa Dr. Kayiiraeggyibwe mu ddiiro n'agamba nti Bannayuganda baagalaokumaya ekituufu n'olwo luggwe.Museveni kwe kulagira Minisita Amama Mbabazi okukolaku by'okufulumya lipoota
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Re: [Ugnet] I heard this last night on NPR's CBC transmission

2006-07-06 Thread Y Yaobang

Dictator Museveni is just playing games, playing with the lives of the IDPs in the north and east of Uganda, something he has done for the last 20some years. He wants the glory of hosting the commonwealth summit next year, and more. The Kony peace talks, the discovery of exploitable oil and uranium are all a facade!!y Ochan Otim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Act ASAP before the audio disappears if you are interested.OchanUGANDA AND LRA Duration: 00:06:15It just might be the best chance for peace in Northern Uganda in years. The Ugandan government has agreed to send a delegation to Juba, in Southern Sudan, to negotiate with members of the Lord's Resistance Army. The rebel group has been terrorizing residents of Northern Uganda and
southern Sudan for two decades. Three previous attempts to negotiate with the L-R-A have failed. Now its leader, Joseph Kony, and four of his deputies have been indicted by the International Criminal Court for war crimes. But the Ugandan president has said that if the peace talks are successful and Mr. Kony abandons terrorism, he will offer the rebel leader amnesty. We reached Ugandan government spokesperson Robert Kabushenga in Kampala, Uganda. http://www.cbc.ca/radioshows/AS_IT_HAPPENS/20060704.shtml Ochan OtimNB: In case you are not aware, there is a petition to stop the Northern Uganda Genocide at: http://www.petitiononline.com/savacoli/petition.html ___Ugandanet mailing listUgandanet@kym.nethttp://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet% UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way.---

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Re: [Ugnet] Uganda: Brtish Envoys Rush to West Nile

2006-05-31 Thread Y Yaobang

Oh, yea! What is their response totheir failure to respect the benchmack of the 'free and fair elections' in February, stolen by dictator Museveni?yMatek Opoko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Uganda: Brtish Envoys Rush to West NileEmail
This Page Print This Page The Monitor (Kampala) May 28, 2006Posted to the web May 30, 2006 Tabu ButagiraArua A five-member team of British diplomats on Thursday flew to Arua to assess the security situation in the area. Mr John Hamilton, the press officer at the British High Commission, told Sunday Monitor during an interview that their visit was an on-going assessment of the countryside mood in the aftermath of the February general elections. "We have to reflect on the present (security) situation in Arua. We talked to the government, security agencies, NGOs and the police about this," Hamilton said. There have been long-running fears in security circles since September last year, that the West Nile region - which shares porous frontiers with Southern Sudan, and the volatile eastern Democratic Republic of Congo - could be a potential target and gateway for a possible
rebel incursion into Uganda by the Lord's Resistance Army, from their new lair in Garamba forestland. Also late last year, the British and United States embassies slapped a travel ban on their nationals from moving by road to 23 northern districts, including Arua, after a spate of rebel attacks. Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates.___Ugandanet mailing listUgandanet@kym.nethttp://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet% UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any
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Re: [Ugnet] Ugandans, we must rise up and fight for OUR country!

2006-05-23 Thread Y Yaobang

How do we do it -- fight dictator Museveni??  ymusamize [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Nobody else will do it for us! Recently the salaries of our MPs were doubled -- translation, they havejust been bought off. Where are the protests, when our budget perennially depends 55% on internation charity and we suffer biting poverty, one of the lowest standard of life on the continent, rotten road, non-functional hospitals and clinics.Where are
 the protests?Now, Museveni has just sworn to "fight curruption" in his fifth term at the helm. Is that why he has replaced Jim Muhwezi with Salim Saleh, of helicoptergate infammy? If this is not "rinsing charcoal" (okunyumunguza ebisirinza), I dont' know what is!How come we let Museveni get away with these abuses time and again, as if Uganda is his personal property?Come on people, it is high timewe fought for our rights! Else, we are condemned to suffering Museveni's arrogance for ever.  May 22, 2006  Nairobi Journal  Crisis Swirls in Kenya, and Politicians Reward Themselves  Guillaume Bonn for The New York Times  A news cameraman videotaping the vehicle of Francis Ole Kaparo, the speaker of Kenya's National Assembly, this month after legislators approved pay increases for themselves, setting off a wave of public criticism.   By MARC LACEYNAIROBI, Kenya, May 21  It has been a trying year in Kenya, one of the worst in decades, as a severe drought killed off crops and cattle and left millions with empty stomachs and uncertain futures. In such suffering, members of Parliament have been roused to action as seldom before, finding common ground on an issue so pressing that they threatened to stonewall the budget until it was addressed: another big increase in their compensation.  
   The move last month to reward themselves in a time of crisis infuriated Kenyan voters, most of whom eke out a living on a fraction of what their elected officials earn. It also reinforced the notion that this was a political drought, one that owed its origins as much to mismanagement in a country that should be able to feed itself as to the vagaries of nature."They are greedy," said Jackson Ndungu, 50, a computer programmer who offered one of the milder critiques one can hear on the streets of Nairobi these days. "They are out only for themselves."Their reputation as fat cats did not come out of thin air. After coming into office in 2003 promising to reform an out-of-touch, authoritarian government, they squandered much of the public good will with their very first vote: it quadrupled their
 annual salaries. Then they really got to work, voting to give themselves low-interest car and home loans, generous health insurance and retirement packages. As for other types of legislation, the record has been mixed, with fewer than a dozen bills becoming laws each year.Kenya is a place where members of the National Assembly are expected to dole out cash to their constituents, and that is one of the justifications that legislators use to increase their own benefits. They say they frequently pay out of their pockets for funerals, school costs and other expenses associated with the people back home. They also contend that Kenyans expect their elected officials to dress well, live well and drive a car that is not a clunker.The legislative branch of government is
 flexing its muscles after years of being sidelined by an all-powerful head of state."What we are witnessing in Kenya is the rise of Parliament as a force to be reckoned with in the governance equation after 40 years of being a more or less a rubber stamp for the executive," said Marc Cassidy, an American-financed democracy adviser to Parliament.Still, some say legislators have lost touch with the poor districts they represent. Per capita income is about $463 a year, which nobody here would expect a lawmaker to survive on. Minimum wage is $924 a year, still far too little, in most Kenyans' view, for someone taking care of the nation's business.But the base compensation that legislators earn is about $81,000 a year, tax free, plus a variety of allowances and
 perks, which can effectively double their take-home pay. That means those public servants earn more than most Kenyan corporate executives and outstrip the salaries of many of their counterparts in the developed world."They are behaving like we are rich and as if there's no famine and poverty in the country," Maina Kiai, the chairman of the Kenya National Commission of Human Rights, complained recently to the newspaper The Daily Nation. "They want to make as much money as they can."  The latest increase, which cost the country $2.78 million, nearly doubled the mileage allowances that lawmakers receive for their Mercedeses, Land Rovers and other typically sleek rides. They will now receive a monthly lump sum of $4,719 to cover the first 350 kilometers (217 miles) they drive. After that, they will take
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[Ugnet] A sad commentary

2006-02-28 Thread Y Yaobang

* Kuggundu closes ugandnet during the ballot counting.  * Dictator Museveni rigs his way to power again, including one of hiswives.  * And some Ugandans celebrate, along with the so-called election observers.  * Diminutive Mbeki, not suprisingly,congratulates the dictator (to protect SA interests!).  * * It is indeed a sad commentary for most ordinary Ugandans who wanted a change, and had hopes on the 'international community', but nowmust continue paying for mebershipin the Commonwealth, AU, et al., the very same organizations who screwed them up. Fuck it!y  
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Re: [Ugnet] Re: [Ugandacom] Your message to Mailman awaits moderator approval

2005-09-13 Thread Y Yaobang

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Nice try, but no cigar! I have had the same happen to me not too long ago! 
I have said on this net before, that Mr Kiggundu if he is an astute businessman, he has to make some profit, somehow. There's no free lunch, kids. 

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Try to post on Ugandanet solely, do not post on it when sending on another forum try that and see. The fact of the matter is Ugandanet is becoming like an old woman you have to keep on learning her.

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Re: [Ugnet] Otafiire Crashes Car, Pulls Gun At Journalist

2005-09-13 Thread Y Yaobang

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Now the Ugandan poor taxpayers have to pay for all the car repairs and possibly a brand new car for the minister and MP gun-totting asshole!

No wonder, when there is a change of government, people like these are lynched!

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Once a gun man always a gun man!!!
Otafiire said quote "Look now you are going to draw cartoons that Otafiire was drunk and I was involved in the accident. But I am not drunk, my driver has lost a mother and he has gone for the burial. Now you stupid journalist, you are going to say I was drunk," Odongkara quoted Otafiire shouting as he brandished the pistol in his face."
Otafiire Crashes Car, Pulls Gun At Journalist

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The Monitor (Kampala)
September 13, 2005 Posted to the web September 13, 2005
Grace MatsikoKampala
THE Minister of Water, Lands and Environment, Maj. Gen. Kahinda Otafiire, crashed his car on Saturday morning and drew a gun at a journalist who came to the accident scene.
The incident took place on Kinawataka Road, off the Old Portbell Road at 2:30 a.m.

Daily Monitor photo-journalist Mr Mike Odongkara was put at gunpoint by an angry Otafiire and manhandled by policemen who were called to the scene to rescue the minister.
The journalist was returning home in Kireka after covering a concert by Congolese musician, Mbilia Bel, at Sheraton Kampala Hotel late Friday.
Otafiire's official car, a forest green Toyota Land Cruiser Reg. No. UG 1284S, skidded off the road as the minister drove from Kireka heading towards Kinawataka near Bugolobi. He somehow lost control of the car and it crashed into a ditch on the right side of the road, a witness said. No one was injured.
Otafiire, who is also the MP for Ruhinda, yesterday confirmed he drew a pistol at Odongkara. He, however, said the act was in self-defence after the villagers he had called to pull him out of the trench confronted the photographer.
"Somebody ahead of me was driving badly, I tried to avoid him and I ended up in the ditch. I was alone, then someone came flashing [photographing]. In that situation you will get out your gun," Otafiire said.
The minister, however, could not identify the offending vehicle, saying it sped off before he could get its registration number.
The minister said, "It was the population that indeed wanted to kill him [Mr Odongkara] because they know me. My home is near, but when he introduced himself as a journalist, I told them to leave him and I don't know what happened to him thereafter."
But Odongkara and an eyewitness said that by the time of the scuffle, there was a police patrol vehicle parked on the left and a towing truck which was pulling Otafiire's vehicle from the trench.
According to Ondongkara, he introduced himself to the policemen but they warned him to be "careful". Odongkara proceeded to take photographs and on taking the second shot, Otafiire sprung from the dark corner near his crashed car while pointing a black pistol at him shouting, "Let me finish this stupid journalist".
"Look now you are going to draw cartoons that Otafiire was drunk and I was involved in the accident. But I am not drunk, my driver has lost a mother and he has gone for the burial. Now you stupid journalist, you are going to say I was drunk," Odongkara quoted Otafiire shouting as he brandished the pistol in his face.
He [Otafiire] said "no story, no story, call me tomorrow" after the journalist pleaded with him. Odongkara said the policemen had grabbed his camera on Otafiire's orders but briefly confiscated it before it was given back to him.
Otafiire accused Odongkara of being "a nuisance". "Anyway what was he doing? While others were helping, he was busy taking photographs. That was strange," the minister said.
"You [journalist] should know how far you should go," Otafiire added. But Ondongkara said they were attracted to the scene because the accident had partially blocked the road.

This is not the first time minister Otafiire draws a gun at an unarmed civilian. In the late '80s, he resigned after pulling a gun at Mrs Jennifer Kuteesa (RIP), the late wife of Foreign Affairs Minister Sam Kuteesa, during an argument at the Uganda Club.
According to government standing regulations, top government officials, including ministers, are not supposed to drive official vehicles themselves.

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Re: [Ugnet] WHO Tells Uganda To dismantle 'Kony' Camps As Death Rises

2005-08-31 Thread Y Yaobang

Nume,
That sychophant Amongin says " the government would decongest the camps, but there is no time frame for this". How many times has the government said this, and why is there no timeframe? These concentration camps created by the mulalo dictator Museveni must be dismantled now, not just decongested!

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What does decongest mean in this case ?

NumeY Yaobang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

We are sick and tired of these international community leaders coming for "familiarization" tours! Better to stay in Kampala or Rwakitura! Our people continue to die and be used as pawns in dictator Museveni's re-election bid. And that sychophant Amongin continues to make those silly remarks!

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WHO tells Uganda to dismantle camps as deaths rise
The World Health Organisation wants Uganda to remove internally displaced people from camps in the country's war-ravaged northern region as reports say the government has failed to curtail the high death rates there.
The special representative of the WHO director general, Dr David Nabarro, said that the death rates in the camps have climbed so high that the only way to arrest the situation is to remove people from there.
Up to 1.4 million people in northern Uganda no longer live in their homes, having been herded into camps that are congested, with poor sanitation and hygiene conditions.
Dr Nabarro was speaking after the release of partial results of a survey carried out in the region to assess the death rate at the camps. The results revealed that the region has one of the highest death rates in the world, with 1.2 out of every 10, 000 people dying daily.
Dr Nabarro, who is the head of the WHO Health Action in Crisis group, was on a familiarisation tour of Gulu district last week. He also said that despite efforts to confront the four leading causes of death in the camps malaria, HIV/Aids, violence and dysentery the only way to tackle the problem is for the government to end the war.
"The results suggest that there are an extra 1,000 deaths every week due to living conditions. The insurgency should come to an end. Too many people are dying," he said.
The survey, which was carried out in Gulu, Kitgum and Pader between January and July this year, was the first to specifically seek to establish the causes and rates of mortality. As several organisations have pointed out in the past, malaria emerged at the top of the list, followed by HIV/Aids.
Survey results so far released by the government indicate that malaria accounts for 25 per cent of all deaths. HIV/Aids is second with 13.5 per cent, while violence accounts for 9.4 per cent.
The Minister for Disaster Preparedness, Christine Amongin Aporu, said that the government would decongest the camps, but there is no time frame for this.
"Decongestion has already started in the safer areas," she said.
At first called "protected villages," the camps were set up in the mid 1990s and expanded as the conflict escalated, leading to an increase in the incidence of disease, hunger and deaths.
In November last year, the medical charity Medicins Sans Frontiers reported that the death rates among children in Lira district camps stood at 5.4 out of 10,000. It also gave the higher figure of 10.5 out of 10,000 for one of the camps in the same period.
The government has been at pains to defend its policies in northern Uganda, where the Lord's Resistance Army (LRA) rebels have waged a war against the government for two decades. The military solution that President Yoweri Museveni is pursuing was partly to blame for the collapse of peace talks in December last year.
The Ministry of Health has defended its current report, with the acting Director General Dr Sam Okware saying it has been verified.
Although the people in the camps do not have access to clean drinking water and food is scarce, the World Food Programme (WFP) country representative, Ken Davies, said that nutrition is not a big contributor to mortality. He said that the sanitation and nutrition problems of the camps can only end when the camps are decongested.
Mr Davies said, however, that the problem of food shortage is likely to continue into 2006 because the people remained in the camps past the August planting season.
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Re: [Ugnet] WHO Tells Uganda To dismantle 'Kony' Camps As Death Rises

2005-08-30 Thread Y Yaobang

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2005-08-30 Thread Y Yaobang

Is this censorship, oba what?

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Re: [Ugnet] Uganda: 1, 000 Displaced Die Every Week in War-Torn North - Report

2005-08-30 Thread Y Yaobang

Any comments on this from ambassador-designate Kabonero?

yMatek Opoko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Uganda: 1,000 Displaced Die Every Week in War-Torn North - Report














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UN Integrated Regional Information Networks 
August 29, 2005 Posted to the web August 29, 2005 
Kampala 
An estimated 1,000 people displaced by the 19-year-old war in northern Uganda die every week from violence or disease, the Ugandan Ministry of Health and its partners said in a report.
The report, based on a survey of the health and mortality of internally displaced persons (IDPs) in the northern Acholi subregion - made up of Gulu, Kitgum and Pader districts - indicated that malaria, HIV/AIDS and violence were the leading causes of death in the region.






"A total excess mortality of 28,283 of which 11,068 [are] children under five, can be projected for the entire Acholi region between January and July 2005, namely about 1,000 excess deaths per week," the report, released in August, stated.
It added that malaria and AIDS were the top self-reported causes of death. It found that children below the age of five were susceptible to an illness with symptoms encompassing oral thrust, malnutrition and diarrhoea.
The Ugandan Ministry of Health conducted the survey in partnership with the UN World Health Organization, the UN Children's Fund, the UN World Food Programme, the UN Population Fund, the International Rescue Committee and the UK Department for International Development.
Northern Uganda has been the scene of one of the world's most bizarre and brutal conflicts; a war that pits the government against the rebel Lord's Resistance Army (LRA), a group that mainly targets civilians.
The conflict has displaced some 1.6 million people, 1.3 million of whom are in the Acholi subregion.
The report, which said the situation presented "a very serious humanitarian emergency", noted that fewer people were killed by direct violence than by disease. It said violence accounted for 9.4 percent of the deaths, occurring mostly outside camps, with about 70 percent of those killed being adult males.
The survey indicated that the LRA principally abducted people below the age of 35, 46.4 percent of whom were children under the age of 15 years.
"In 2005, until July, we estimate that 1,286 persons have been abducted and haven't yet returned to their households," it said.
"Extremely urgent action is needed so as to reduce mortality to non-crisis level," it added, and said the peaceful resolution of the conflict was a crucial step that should be sought by all parties to the conflict.
The report also recommended scaling-up and improving the capacity of health services, including better diagnosis and management of malaria, greater availability of second-line drugs and the creation of more in-patient facilities closer to IDP camps.
It suggested the continuation of the process of camp decongestion to limit the health consequences of overcrowding, and advised the government to "step up efforts to protect IDPs against violent attacks".











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The report urged the relevant authorities to keep up general food distribution and promote better infant feeding practices, and recommended increased funding for the humanitarian crisis in the north, with particular emphasis on life-saving interventions and the allocation of sufficient resources to the most deprived areas.
[ This report does not necessarily reflect the views of the United Nations ]


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Re: [Ugnet] RE: [Ugandacom] Politics of the Gun in Uganda

2005-08-27 Thread Y Yaobang

It is called Delution -- that's what it seems the dictator is suffering from.
yMatek Opoko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

JO

I reckon you are probably right in your Analysis. In politics and political theory, once you have reached a stage wereby you need a whole Battalion of Soldiers ( armed with ant-aircraft guns, Bazookas, 0.06 Artillary..Muti purpose Machine Guns...e.t.c and travelling in battlewagons, mambas, APC) to escort the "president" say from Crested Towers to Museveni's resident in Nakasero...youknow you are pretty much done.. finished caput. Indeed , in suchcircumstances, the "president" becomes Paranoid .. he begins "seeing things"in the darkin imaginary ally...I feel for Kaguta...but then again he deserves to sleep in the bed he has help make over the years!!!
Matekjoseph odwe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


MK
This is all about the guy's fear of the eminent possibility of those guns being turned against him. He is beating around the bush to see what comes out. jO
Je Mujinga Akyererufuka Mwerefu Huenda Wapi!


From: Matek Opoko [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: ugandanet@kym.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Ugandacom] Politics of the Gun in UgandaDate: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 17:38:10 -0700 (PDT)


Museveni said, "We have been at war almost all times. We were keeping our guns in our huts and houses so that as soon as there's anything, we go to the trenches. This is a practice that has outlived its usefulness because the country is peaceful."eveni Orders Gun Crackdown
Citizens... we can only conclude that Mucebeni does not believe that Northern Uganda, were war continues to rage, on is not part of Uganda since after all Uganda is at "peace"
Secondly, is not but a fact that under Yoweri Museveni Military dictatorship, the politics of "GUN VIOLENCE", kirring, wars has been NRM policy since day one...Remeber Muchakamucha...yeap..remember when the regime decided that that "THE GUN MUST BE DEMYSTIFIED...and that every able bodied Uganda should go Military training to fight against the "Anyayas"..well..What did Kaguta expect? you train all this people how to handle guns..and when poverty bits ( as is the case in Uganda) guess who will be at the end of that Gun Barrier...!

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August 26, 2005 Posted to the web August 26, 2005 
Felix Osike And Henry MukasaKampala 
PRESIDENT Yoweri Museveni has ordered a crackdown on guns in Kampala city following a number of grisly murders of prominent people.
Museveni said the resurgence of murders was due to the "loose" storage of ammunition that allows armed forces to keep them in their "huts and houses" rather than in the armoury.




"For many years, the army and the Police were not keeping the guns in the armouries. I have already directed that the whole thing be reviewed. We should go back to the practice that all guns are kept in the armoury," he added.
The President, flanked by the Tanzania head of state, Benjamin Mkapa, was addressing a press conference at State House Nakasero at the end of Mkapa's farewell state visit.
Mkapa, who is retiring in November after serving two five-year terms, flew back to Tanzania yesterday evening.
Museveni said, "We have been at war almost all times. We were keeping our guns in our huts and houses so that as soon as there's anything, we go to the trenches. This is a practice that has outlived its usefulness because the country is peaceful."
He said the murderers of Kampala lawyer Robinah Kiyingi were arrested promptly, while the Police had informed him that it had got clues on the Sunday killers of Send-a-Cow country manger, Samwiri Naswaali in Kira town council.
Museveni said he might appoint a commission of inquiry to probe the operations of the Programme Management Unit of the Ministry of Health over the suspension of aid by the Global Fund to fight AIDS, tuberculosis and malaria.
He said the Fund had acted "sensibly" by limiting the aid on seminars and not the offer of free anti-retroviral treatment to people living with HIV.
Mkapa said by urging "home-grown democracy" during his address to Parliament, he did not mean that constitutions should be frozen but that parameters for good governance should not only be Euro-centric.
Asked whether he would make a reciprocal farewell visit to Kenya and Tanzania soon, Museveni, after repeated chuckles, said, "Regarding my itinerary of when I will go to say bye to the people of E. Africa; that one I will arrange when time comes."











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Museveni said the adoption of the East African political federation would not lead to the dismantling of the borders.
Mkapa dismissed reports that the Tanzania Parliament had recommended that the country pulls out of the EAC because of an attempt by Museveni to seek another term in office. On Burundi, Museveni said, "The completion of the peace process

Re: [Ugnet] Fw: [Ugandacom] Exercise your freedom within the law Edward Mulindwa TORONTO

2005-08-16 Thread Y Yaobang

I also cannot believeE Mulindwa would write trash like this!

yVukoni Lupa-Lasaga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Did you write that EM? Or was it your alter ego?Edward Mulindwa wrote: *From:* gook makanga *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Monday, August 15, 2005 4:37 PM *Subject:* [Ugandacom] Exercise your freedom within the law Edward Mulindwa TORONTO Exercise your freedom within the law Edward Mulindwa TORONTO In reading Dr Muniini Mulera's article in your Monday's opinion pages, I found it hard to pass with out a comment. My friend Dr Mulera makes some very good points and I completely agree with him that there are questions which have to be both asked and answered. I have a problem with the closure of KFM 93.3, the Monitors FM radio station, but not being in Uganda I do not know
if this
station was warned by the agency on what it should air on the public waves or not, makes it difficult for me to make a call on it either way. But here is where I have a problem with Mulera's article; he is failing to make one very important point, that freedom of speech is not an open ended status. We all use freedom of speech but we respect the law. I read the transcript of Andrew Mwenda and some of the statements he made in that program, Dr Mulera can not make them in Canada waves if he wants to have a license. I have to be very careful here for Andrew Mwenda's case is soon going to be before a judge so I cannot debate any of his statements. But I would ask Dr Muniini Mulera to go back and read the transcript of that program, and wonder if he had a radio station in Canada if he would make such statements on a prime Minister of Ca
nada and
see if the CRTC would not yank his license. Freedom of speech does not empower us to disrespect our leaders, and I happen to be one of the people who have opposed the Movement for a very long time, but like it or not Yoweri Museveni is a president of Uganda today, and we owe him that respect. *Danger* The danger here is that there is no way you can disrespect Yoweri Museveni with out disrespecting the position he holds. And I wish Dr Muniini Mulera used this chance to point out to his audience that respect of the presidency is paramount in all things we discuss in or on our nation. The questions Dr Mulera asked are understandable and they need to be asked and answered as I stated before, but why am I able to understand them in Mulera's article and I can not understand them in Andrew Mwenda's transcript? Yet Dr Muler
a is not
a journalist and Andrew Mwenda is. That is the main problem in this whole circle. Lastly the movement has brought very many changes to our nation. we used to have only land lines today we are in cell phone times. The Internet was introduced including reading Daily Monitor on line, but I have looked very carefully on how we use these new facilities. The other day a Florence Namutebi from Sweden wrote a letter in Daily Monitor complaining about the abuse of Uganda chat rooms. When you read Andrew Mwenda's transcript, one can not help but wonder if we were ready to move from a state one controlled radio station. We need to build freedom of speech in our nation, but let us not forget the growth of journalism that must follow it. *Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gook
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Re: [Ugnet] Museveni threatens to ban Monitor, Observer

2005-08-10 Thread Y Yaobang

The heat is on dictator Museveni's ass!Why kill the messangers? He, too, will soon fall.

y
Matek Opoko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Museveni threatens to ban Monitor, Observer

GRACE MATSIKO, HUSSEIN BOGERE SIMON KASYATE

KOLOLO
PRESIDENT Yoweri Museveni has threatened to close Ugandan newspapers for allegedly compromising regional security.Museveni, the chief mourner at yesterdays joint funeral service for the fallen Sudanese Vice President John Garang, his entourage and seven Ugandans, who died in a helicopter crash a week ago in Southern Sudan, said his tolerance of newspaper reports about security matters had worn out. I am the President of Uganda. The people elected me. I therefore have the ultimate mandate to run their affairs, he said.Now I will no longer tolerate a newspaper which is like a vulture. For them the misery of many is their joy. His remarks attracted cheers from government and army officers in the pavilion. Any newspaper which plays around with the regional security, I will not tolerate. I will simply close it, the President said.The national mourning ceremony was held at Kololo Airstrip. Garang, the President of Sudanese Peoples Liberation M
ovement
(SPLM) and the Sudanese First Vice-President, died in the Ugandan presidential helicopter near New Site. On board were his commanders, Lt. Col. Ali Maxen, Lt. Col. Amat Malual, Maj. Deng Majok, Lt. Juma Mayen, and Capt. Oboki Omor, who all perished.The Ugandans who died include; Col. Peter Nyakairu, the presidential chief pilot, Maj. Patrick Kiggundu, flight engineer, Capt. Paul Kiyimba, co-pilot, Lt. Johnson Munanura, jet officer, Cpl. Hassan Kiiza, signaller, Ms Lilian Kabaije, presidential airhostess and Mr Sam Bakoowa, the State House protocol officer.Museveni did not cite any specific case where local newspapers had compromised national or regional security.But government officials had earlier in the week condemned a local tabloid, The Red Pepper, for reporting that Garang was shot twice in the head by possible hijackers. The same paper had also reported earlier that Rwanda was involved in a plot to bring down the Ugandan presidential chopper in whic
h
Garang was travelling. The President did not initially point at the Red Pepper in his assault on the press until the audience shouted out its name. Instead, he singled out Daily Monitors political editor Andrew Mwenda, who has written some critical analyses of the relations between Uganda and Rwanda. I have been seeing this young man Mwenda writing about Rwanda...he must stop, Museveni said.He claims he has minutes of SPLM meetings, this meeting, the other, he must stop completely. Daily Monitor on Tuesday published confidential minutes of a stormy SPLM meeting last November/December, at which Garang was attacked by his senior colleagues, for among others, eliminating opponents, promoting nepotism, and treating the Movement like his own property. Museveni then descended on the Weekly Observer, which he blamed for writing about the military. He warned the paper to stop. After the shouts from the audience: What about Red Pepper? Museveni sa
id, Th
is Red Pepper, I thought these are confused young boys, dealing with naked girls, now that they have gone into security; they must stop. All newspapers must stop or we shall stop them.About Daily Monitor, the President added, I have already spoken to Dr Martin Aliker (board chairman of Monitor Publications). If they want to continue doing business in Uganda, they must stop writing on security.Museveni said newspapers should write about security only after they have consulted the military. These newspapers must stop or else I shall stop them, he said. Its the least of my problems. This is not the first time Musevenis government is threatening to close newspapers. On October 10, 2003 the government closed The Monitor for a week, over a story that an army helicopter had crashed in northern Uganda while fighting Joseph Konys Lords Resistance Army (LRA) rebels.
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Re: [Ugnet] Ssemakula: NRM USA PRESS RELEASE

2005-07-26 Thread Y Yaobang

Is Musamizi on the payroll or wishing to be on the payroll of the dictator Museveni, soon-to-be life-presidente? Go ahead!

yEdward Mulindwa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Sorry this was addressed to Musamize and not Ssenyonjo

Em
Toronto

The Mulindwas Communication Group"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"

- Original Message - 
From: Edward Mulindwa 
To: ugandanet@kym.net 
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 8:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Ugnet] Ssemakula: NRM USA PRESS RELEASE

Senyange

Why are you scared of Obote a man who is not even in power for even this long? Just curious.

Em
Toronto

The Mulindwas Communication Group"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"

- Original Message - 
From: musamize 
To: ugandanet@kym.net 
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Ugnet] Ssemakula: NRM USA PRESS RELEASE


Mr. Mulindwa,

Are you man enough to face the fact that Obote was a criminal president, both on Obote I and Obote II? 

Are you man enough to face the fact that Uganda's current misery is directly due to Obote's greed for absolute power, life presidency,and his fear oftruly democratic elections?

Are you man enough to acknowledge that Obote orderedlorries to scout Kampala and its environs -- areas not known to harbor guerillas or "bandits" as he preferred to call them --, in the 1980s, to pick up civilians at random to be killed in army barracks and elsewhere?

Or is it better for UPC to believe that Obote's beatification and sainthood are just round the corner?
Edward Mulindwa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




I wonder how many Ugandans and especialy Baganda think the same way as Musamize. But you see the good thing worth Uganda, such thinkers are getting old by the day, for today if you put an election in Uganda, and a free election in Uganda I wonder if KY can win it.

But that is me.

Em
Toronto
The Mulindwas Communication Group"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"

- Original Message - 
From: musamize 
To: ugandanet@kym.net 
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 10:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Ugnet] Ssemakula: NRM USA PRESS RELEASE

Mr. Lupa-Lasaga:

No, not in this life-time, or the next, not ever, not even in death! So help me God.

UPC is party of murderers led by a criminal president, (Obote). UPC is Buganda's sworn enemy. Uganda is in the mess it is today because of UPC,s blinding hatred of Buganda, whipped up by that monster and mass murderer, Obote, whose quest for absolute and non-ending power misled so many for so long ... 

UPC's only idea, andvery reason toexist at all, is the destruction of the Kingdom of Buganda. 

Who does notknow what UPC's idea of a "Good Muganda" is?

Calling James Ssemakula a "UPC stalwart" is like calling Ben Gurion, or any Jew, a Nazi.Vukoni Lupa-Lasaga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
"James Ssemakula ?a U.P.C stalwart, who labored to discourage the Uganda American community in California from attending the NRM event."Sseruganda Ssemakula, I must have missed the news of your crossing over to "the party of ideas." From: " To: "Edward Mulindwa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 10:43 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [Ugnet] NRM USA PRESS RELEASE You have got to be kidding me.. :D holla back, Judy these people didn't even begin to arrive until way after 8:00. I  can't imagine what time this thing actually got started... I left well  after 8:00 probably closer to 9:00..lol. promptly @ 7??? i  don't think so -- Original Message - Date
  : Thu,
 21 Jul 2005 17:16:03 -0654 From: "Edward Mulindwa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Subject: Fw: [Ugnet] NRM USA PRESS RELEASE LAUNCHING OF NRM USA CALIFORNIA LOCAL CHAPTER JULY 17TH 2005 NRM USA launched its California branch over the weekend on Saturday  July 16th. The NRM event was an overwhelming success. By 4.00 p.m. enthusiastic delegates had began to arrive, each one proudly signing  in at the reception desk with their names. The occasion was hosted by  NRM USA at ABLE International in North Hollywood located in the heart  of the entertainment capital of the world. The NRM function organizers deliberately designed it to attract  potential partners of Development for Uganda who delivered keynotes  on the importance of being org
  anized
 in order to create an  environment that can breed development. It was graced by a notable  number of invited dignitaries including Her Excellency Ambassador  Sempala, Congress Woman Diane Watson and Kenya?s General Council to  California Ms. Nyambura Kamau. The event officially started promptly  after dinner at 7.00 p.m. with a prayer led by Grace Lubwama, after  which both the Ugandan and American National anthems were sang by Ms  Rachael Kiwanuka, daughter to the renowned Ugandan

Re: [Ugnet] NRM USA PRESS RELEASE

2005-07-22 Thread Y Yaobang

Abayombo,
I guess you will also be facilitated by dictator Museveni, just as he did to those movement Ugandan MPs to secure the 5th term! Your political days are numbered guys, enjoy your last supper!

y[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

LAUNCHING OF NRM USA CALIFORNIA LOCAL CHAPTER
JULY 17TH 2005

NRM USA launched its California branch over the weekend on Saturday July 16th. The NRM event was an overwhelming success. By 4.00 p.m.

enthusiastic delegates had began to arrive, each one proudly signing in at the reception desk with their names. The occasion was hosted by NRM USA at ABLE International in North Hollywood located in the heart of the entertainment capital of the world.

The NRM function organizers deliberately designed it to attract potential partners of Development for Uganda who delivered keynotes on the importance of being organized in order to create an environment that can breed development. It was graced by a notable number of invited dignitaries including Her Excellency Ambassador Sempala, Congress Woman Diane Watson and Kenya?s General Council to California Ms. Nyambura Kamau. The event officially started promptly after dinner at 7.00 p.m. with a prayer led by Grace Lubwama, after which both the Ugandan and American National anthems were sang by Ms Rachael Kiwanuka, daughter to the renowned Ugandan singer and entrepreneur, Halima Namakula. She was followed by Mr. Robert Ssebugwawo, whose poetry has appeared in international media, who recited a composition in praise of the wise leadership of President Museve
ni,
after which the delightful Halima Namakula led the delegates in singing ?Kiboonge Kyanini? in a true Movement tradition.

The NRM USA national executive was represented by the Secretary General Mr. Allan Katatumba, National Executive Secretary for Mobilization Mr. Kenneth Kanyike and Executive Committee Member, Mr. Edriss Kironde who is also the chairman of the NRM Colorado chapter all of whom spoke with passion for the Movement in their addresses to the delegates and the newly elected chapter members. They reiterated the need for a voice for the Movement in the Diaspora, especially in light of the incessant distortions being propagated by members of the opposition, mainly ?FDC? which was dubbed a ?Forum for Disgruntled Candidates?. The audience was reminded by the NRM Mobilization Secretary, Mr. Kanyike that NRM was waging a ?New Struggle? just like the one waged by the founders in the bushes of Luweero. ?The war in the Diaspo
ra is
intended to resist the negative distortions propagated by certain sections of the media and numerous disgruntled and corrupt individuals, whose aims are to derail Uganda from the path of development?, he said. Mr. Kanyike in his speech also highlighted the history of the National Resistance Movement USA and detailed their achievements so far.
Mr. Katatumba stressed the need for partnerships with other Africans and people of African decent in the war against neo-colonialism, backwardness and poverty.

In her address to the delegates, Congresswoman Diane Watson, who is also on the US Foreign Relations Committee, said she was glad to see a nation on the move, and acknowledged that Uganda had indeed come a long way from ?the Uganda of Idi Amin? ? a notion that is shared by the NRM. She was encouraged to see Ugandans believing that they can achieve the desired transformation. She pledged to continue to be Uganda and Africa?s advocate on AGOA. She said that her office doors are open to help in any way to help add value to Uganda?s journey towards Democracy. She also emphasized that it was key for all Ugandans to work together on creating an environment that will breed peaceful coexistence and empower the citizens to utilize their own resources to develop their nation, rather than depend on handouts.

Ambassador Sempala highlighted Uganda?s History and stressed the need for Ugandans everywhere to participate in the processes of democratizing Uganda. Madam Sempala stressed the need for Ugandans everywhere in the Diaspora to actively articulate Uganda?s progress and also encourage investors to partner with Uganda to improve her capacity to achieve the vision of transformation. She noted that Uganda in the next phase of development is looking to begin adding value to her products with a view of leveraging these in the processes of development rather than depending on foreign AID that has proved useless in terms of creating any meaningful sustainable means of development for Uganda. She was thankful for NRM USA for having invited her to attend the launching of it?s NRM chapter in California, and said that the embassy doors were open to any other organ
ized
groups of Ugandan?s who have positive ideas that are geared to helping Uganda achieve the level of transformation it seeks.
The ceremony was also addressed by the Chairman of the Africa American Chamber of commerce; Mr. Al Washington, who unequivocally declared his readiness to work with NRM USA

[Ugnet] Calling Dr. Condy Rice

2005-07-20 Thread Y Yaobang

How come the brand new US SecretaryCondelesa Rice has not read the script to thisouptost of tyranny called Uganda yet, or even paid a visit to Africa for that matter, or is Africaor Ugandan of no consequence?
" The patriotic elite is very angry; thus we are sitting on a powder keg. Are you going to continue watching from the side lines, uttering diplomatic rhetoric, as your and Uganda's taxpayers' money goes down the abyss - and the aircraft carrying Ugandan masses coasts into a nosedive? Please come out candidly and firmly now, and resist this ochlocracy (mob-rule) ruling beyond 2006. Oh, God save Uganda! ..."
y

Donors should fix Uganda's politics
F.D.R.Gureme
KAMPALA
With a bleeding heart I candidly, if bluntly, address our benefactors:
namely the Big Eight.
On June 28 2005, and for the second time this year, I blundered into
teargas, intended for demonstrators against the accursed ekisanja when,
seemingly oblivious of the spirit of the 1995 Constitution (and disregarding
the implications of Article 3), almost entirely the brainchild of
omni-Chairman Yoweri Museveni, and contrary to the universal tenets of
constitutionalism, the very constitution was raped by majority
"legislators:" a majority providently created by Museveni himself through
the bizarre formation of the Constitutional Assembly in 1964-1965, with a
cunning eye to the future!
The Ekisanja: product of ill breeding, insatiable avarice, dishonesty,
duplicity, inconsistency, fear and shamelessness, sailed through thanks to
the bribe-riddled, spineless majority in parliament. President Museveni, the
charismatic, calculating planner, is set for an indefinite rule as Emperor
over the sprouting kingdom of Uganda.
Ill-breeding
Baganda are either balangira and bambeja or bakopi: meaning princes and
princesses or commoners. But similar terminology generally distinguishes the
prominent and respectable, supposedly typifying obuntu bulamu or decency; as
opposed to ill-bred, shameless commoners. However, the ill-mannered wellborn
may be nicknamed "bakopi."
Yet, depending on the kind of family qualities, and environment such as peer
group and elementary schooling, ones character is formed between the ages
of 12 and 14. Thus the Baganda say: "Akaliba akendo olabira ku mukonda:"
meaning that a gourd to be a scoop is recognised by its ladle-like handle.
Unfortunately, excepting Ben Kiwanuka, Yusufu Lule and Geoffrey Binaisa,
Uganda has generally been ruled by hungry jobseekers of dubious family and
backgrounds: providing fertile soil in which avarice, dishonesty, duplicity,
fear, shamelessness, prodigally infantile self-interest, and tolerance, nay
support, of massive corruption; not to say intolerance, vendetta,
intimidation, cruelty and revenge; have sprouted, thrived and countermanded
the interest of the masses.
Celebrating my 79th birthday, next September 19, God willing, I observed and
repeat, that this otherwise sophiscated regime, holds laurels in all these
iniquitous distinctions: only excelled in cruelty by the Amin and Paul
Muwanga regimes. "Muwanga" not Obote: because Obote was generally nominal
president: Muwanga exercising the real power: particularly after the death
of Obote's trusted sustainer, David Oyite Ojok.
We were often told that, where ministers Rwakasiisi and Luwuliza Kirunda did
not like Obote's directive, they would mockingly ask non-elected Obote to
"specify his constituency," even though Rwakasiisi once told me that he
feared deadly Muwanga for his life. Rwakasiisi has languished in Luzira,
under sentence of death, for nearly 20 years at Museveni's mercy or
pleasure.
Corruption
Remember that when MP Sekikubo was exasperated by the method of sharing out
the inducement money, paid out to Ekisanja supporting MPs, he spilt the
beans. Remembered also that Moses Kigongo, not given to idle talk, promised
another Shs10 million apiece, in addition to the Shs5 milion each supporting
MP had pocketed. Very recently a respectable lady State House insider
confided that another Shs3 or 4 billion was, by president directive, paid to
the supportive MPs; about the time he was carting another trunk-full of gift
billions from capricious Gadaffi: for votes to sustain his doctrine of
revolutionaries never retiring.
And Insatiable Avarice? I was, until recently, the lone voice arguing that,
so long as the Semliki-Lake Albert oil had not yet flowed, no incumbent
president would countenance retirement. When it flows, the incumbent will be
an oil sheikh. Oil sheikhs do not retire.
Only recently prominent columnist Onyango-Obbo vindicated my predictions.
Never mind that some ministers erect residences worth billions: one said to
own an elephantine manor in a village; where one needs a boda boda to travel
from the perimeter gate to his front door. Similarly some are said to have
foreign accounts (and assets) bursting at the seams. It is these who urge

Re: [Ugnet] How African Leaders Spend Our Money

2005-07-19 Thread Y Yaobang

This author forgot to mention about the opulent spending by dictator Museveni and his sychopanhts of Uganda!

ymusamize [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

How African Leaders Spend Our Money Public Agenda (Accra) OPINIONJuly 18, 2005 Posted to the web July 19, 2005 By Aidan HartleyAccra
'Oh Lord, won't you buy me a Mercedes-Benz,' prayed Janis Joplin, and the Lord obliged. With or without divine intervention, the late Pope had one. So does the Queen. Erich Honecker hunted at night by dazzling the deer in his Mercedes jeep's headlights until he got close enough to blow them away.
Mao Tse-tung had 23 Mercs. Today Kim Jong Il owns dozens, all filled to the gunwales with imported Hennessy's cognac. Hitler, Franco, Hirohito, Tito, the Shah, Ceausescu, Pinochet, Somoza - they all swore by Mercedes. Saddam Hussein liked them so much he probably had shares in the company.
Today, though, there is one man who is doing more than the Lord himself to buy a Mercedes-Benz for the leading creeps of the world. That man is of course Bob Geldof, the spur to our global conscience. Africa's leaders cannot wait for the G8 leaders - hectored by Bob and Live 8 into bracelet-wearing submission - to double aid and forgive the continent's debts. They know that such acts of generosity will finance their future purchases of very swish, customised Mercedes-Benz cars, while 315 million poor Africans stay without shoes and Western taxpayers get by with Hondas. This is the way it goes with the WaBenzi, a Swahili term for the Big Men of Africa.
The legacy of colonialism is a continent carved up by arbitrary frontiers into 50-odd states. But the WaBenzi are a transcontinental tribe who have been committing grand theft auto on the dusty, potholed roads of Africa ever since they hijacked freedom in the 1960s. After joyriding their way through six Marshall Plans' worth of aid Africa is poorer today than 25 years ago; and now the WaBenzi want more.
Zimbabwe
Let us take Zimbabwe, where millions of people are starving, 3,000 die weekly of Aids and life expectancy has fallen to 35 years. In 2005 Britain will give Zimbabwe £30 million in aid, making it one of the three biggest donors. The government will say this money funds emergency relief. Try telling that to the hordes of people whose homes have been burned down and bulldozed in recent weeks. Giving corrupt governments money frees up budgets to squander on cars.
As an example of hypocrisy, it is hard to beat the call for 'clean leadership' in Comrade Robert Mugabe's recent address to Zanu-PF's Central Committee. The old dictator condemns:
'Arrogant flamboyance and wastefulness: a dozen Mercedes-Benz carsto one life, hideously huge residences, strange appetites that can only be appeased by foreign dishes; runaway taste for foreign lifestyles, including sporting fixtures, add to it high immorality and lust.'
He is clearly talking about the WaBenzi, and their preferred version of the marque, the S600L, a long-wheelbase limo with a monstrous 7.3-litre V12 twin-turbo-charged engine. It's as powerful as a Ferrari and 21 feet long. Basic price £93,090, but extras could be £250,000 more.
Hypocrisy
And who is the most notorious Zimbabwean owner of an S600L? Robert Mugabe, of course. Mugabe's was custom-built in Germany and armoured to a 'B7 Dragunov standard' so that it can withstand AK-47 bullets, grenades and landmines. It is fitted with CD player, movies, internet and anti-bugging devices. At five tons it does about two kilometres per litre of fuel. It has to be followed by a tanker of petrol in a country running on empty. Mugabe has purchased a carpool of dozens of lesser Mercedes S320s and E240s for his wife, vice-presidents and ministers.
You may wonder why men like Mugabe did not go for Rolls-Royce, Bentley or Jaguar. The answer should be obvious: whatever their other disadvantages, British cars were associated with imperialism. Look at history and you see that up to the 1960s Mercedes-Benz was ticking along, doing nothing special. Then at about the same time as the 'Wind of Change' swept Africa, Mercedes produced the stretch 600 Pullman, a six-door behemoth with a 6.3-litre V8 engine. For Africa's new top dogs, it was love at first sight.
Idi Amin
The WaBenzi were born. Idi Amin snapped up three, Bokassa more when he crowned himself emperor in central Africa. Zaire's Sese Seko Mobutu bought so many that he kept six for his summerhouse on Lake Kivu alone. Liberia's Sergeant Samuel Doe splurged on 60.
Since those days Africa has been through 186 coups, 26 wars and seven million dead, and the Mercedes has been ideal - both for conveying dignity and for getting out of trouble. I wondered what it was like to drive the old Pullman, so I asked veteran trans-Africa rally driver Anthony Cazalet. 'You don't drive it, your chauffeur does,' he said. 'Look, it's a Queen Mum of a car: gentle, smooth, quiet; growls when necessary. Huge amounts of legroom and enormous seats for very big bottoms.' Cazalet

Re: [Ugnet] Re: [Ugandacom] UPDF lower ranks neglected

2005-07-16 Thread Y Yaobang

They say that just as a dog is man's best friend, a gun (not a vote) is a soldier's best weapon; use it to regain your justice and freedom, but not to entrench the dictators.


yEdward Mulindwa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




Did you vote for Museveni to be in power? 


You will not vote for him SO WHAT?

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UPDF lower ranks neglected 
I have served in this institution since 1985. My last promotion was in 1988 to the rank of corporal. Since then, I have been fighting Kony with no chance of apprehending him. I have done nothing for myself since then because my monthly salary is a paltry Shs140, 000.
When shall I ever build a house for myself like the top army brass that own plush houses in Kampala? We were promised bank loans but the top brass have blocked the plan. We are tired of this injustice and the army commander should do something about this. Or else I will not vote Museveni. 
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[Ugnet] I wish sychophant Nsibambi acted the same way on corruption!

2005-07-14 Thread Y Yaobang


Drinking hours to be restricted
By Henry Mukasa and James Odong YOU might have a deeper pocket and in the habit of drowning in alcohol anytime you wish, but that is set to change within a few months. Stung by the World Health Organisation (WHO) report ranking Uganda as having the highest alcohol per-capita, government will soon institute a policy to regulate drinking hours. The Prime Minister, Prof. Apolo Nsibambi, yesterday directed the ethics and integrity minister, Tim Lwanga, to study the alcohol problem and come up with a policy within three months. People are drinking a lot of alcohol. This matter affects a number of ministries. Its a health hazard. The Minister of Ethics and Integrity should interface with other ministries and come up with a policy within three months to study the quantum, cause of the problem and possible panacea, Nsibambi told Parliament yesterday. Nsibambis directive was in response to concern by Sarah Kiyingi (Rakai) that 
 WHO had
 ranked Uganda as champions of alcohol and radio presenters had made the tragedy a joke as if it were a score for the country. 
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Re: [Ugnet] Fwd: [UNAANET] HON MBABAZI,S RESPONSE .

2005-07-13 Thread Y Yaobang

Abayombo,
Whom do you mean by the "Great teacher Joseph"?

y[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Y,
Long time.we missed you.Had you gone to pay a visit to the Great teacher Joseph?-Original Message-----From: Y Yaobang [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: ugandanet@kym.netSent: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 09:33:24 +0800 (CST)Subject: Re: [Ugnet] Fwd: [UNAANET] HON MBABAZI,S RESPONSE .

Mbabazi, like you yourself Abayombo, is trying to protect his job, but soon that will be no more, EXILE kids. Even if you guys have padded your bank accounts, we will get to them!

y[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Bush Opposed to Third Term: Response by Hon. Amama Mbabazi

Introduction

In the front page headline, Bush opposed to third term for Museveni, the Sunday Monitor newspaper of July 10, 2005 the US ambassador to Uganda, Mr. Jimmy Kolker, is reported to have made the following points:

President Bush advised President Museveni to retire from politics in 2006

The Uganda Parliament was manipulated into voting for the Constitutional Amendment Bill

It is odd for a 9 year old constitution without allowing it to run, and on more than 100 articles some of which had not been tested, to be amended. The US Constitution was enacted in 1789 and only 27 articles have been amended.

It is true that in the White House meeting between the two Presidents, which I had the honour and privilege to attend, President Bush asked President Museveni about the proposed constitutional amendment in Uganda on term limits and if the latter was preparing to retire at the end of his second term of office. He stated that the two term limit had worked well for the US. He raised the matter by way of inquiry. President Museveni in his response said that the Ugandan leadership was studying the issue and would come up with a position when ready. President Bush did not enunciate a US policy that Uganda should not consider amending her constitution or that, if it is amended, President Museveni should not consider offering himself for re-election. Indeed in the numerous interactions I have had with US Administration officials I have been told repeatedly that the US Administration has no problem wi
th
Uganda amending her constitution if it is done legally and transparently.

Uganda Government policy on term limitation

However, even if indeed the US government policy was that they were opposed to removal of term limits from our constitution, clearly this is a matter for Ugandans to decide for themselves. We can listen and even adopt foreign friendly advice, but clearly the decisions are for Ugandans to make.

Uganda is currently undergoing constitutional review. The Constitutional Review Commission (CRC) proposed a comprehensive constitutional change in December 2003. The Government then made proposals to Parliament in September 2004 including the introduction of full multiparty political system and the lifting of term limits among other things.

Taking into account that the National Resistance Movement struggle in Uganda was to restore the sovereignty of the population in decision making which principle was captured by the 1995 Constitution in article ONE which provides that ?all power belongs to the people who shall exercise their sovereignty in accordance with [the] Constitution? and who ?shall express their will and consent on who shall govern them and how they should be governed, through regular, free and fair elections of their representatives or through referenda?, the National Conference of the Movement passed, among others, a resolution in March 2003 to open up political space to allow people to organise themselves to compete for political power as they wished and to remove presidential term limits.

The Bills incorporating the proposed amendments are now before Parliament undergoing consideration and decision making in accordance with the procedure laid down in the Constitution.

Constitutional review is not the invention of Uganda. In the US itself, as the ambassador correctly observes, there have been amendments of their constitution. Whereas it is true that there have been 27 amendments (and not amendment of only 27 articles as the report in the Monitor suggests, after all there are only 7 original articles of that constitution), over 10,000 Constitutional amendments have been introduced in Congress since 1789; in a typical Congressional year in the last several decades, between 100 and 200 are offered.
In fact the first ten amendments of the US Constitution, The Bill of Rights, were all adopted within a few years of the ratification of the Constitution. The amendments were proposed by Congress as part of a block of twelve in September 1789. By December 1791 a sufficient number of states had ratified ten of the twelve proposals, and the Bill of Rights became part of the Constitution only 2 years after promulgation! What is ?odd? about Uganda amending her constitution 9 years after its promulgation?!
There are currently some amendments which ha

Re: [Ugnet] Fwd: [UNAANET] HON MBABAZI,S RESPONSE .

2005-07-12 Thread Y Yaobang

Mbabazi, like you yourself Abayombo, is trying to protect his job, but soon that will be no more, EXILE kids. Even if you guys have padded your bank accounts, we will get to them!

y[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Bush Opposed to Third Term: Response by Hon. Amama Mbabazi

Introduction

President Bush advised President Museveni to retire from politics in 2006

The Uganda Parliament was manipulated into voting for the Constitutional Amendment Bill

Uganda Government policy on term limitation

The Bills incorporating the proposed amendments are now before Parliament undergoing consideration and decision making in accordance with the procedure laid down in the Constitution.

[Ugnet] yaobang is back!

2005-07-10 Thread Y Yaobang

 
 
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RE: [Ugnet] FW: The results of your email commands

2005-05-14 Thread Y Yaobang


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Thank you for the advise. I think I'll try that. The net administrator has been conspicuous by his silence! 
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Maybe the easier approach is to sign off your ugandanet membership, and thenre-register, afresh.
I also had problems with ugandanet.Mr. Kiggundu says these problems originate from hotmail. 
But how come your postings on ugandanet go through if really the machine has delisted you? 
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[Ugnet] Death in Uz ... Uganda is next!

2005-05-14 Thread Y Yaobang

'High death toll' in Uzbekistan

There were wildly different estimates of the death tollThousands of protesters have reappeared on the streets of Andijan in Uzbekistan despite heavy bloodshed on Friday.
President Islam Karimov blamed the violence on Islamic extremist "criminals". He said about 10 soldiers, and "many others", were killed.
However, witnesses said troops opened fire on unarmed civilians. Some said they had seen at least 200 bodies.
The government said it was back in control of the city on Saturday, and had retaken administrative buildings.
But huge crowds were on the streets, shouting "killers, murderers" and demanding the president step down.
"What kind of government is this?" one of the protesters said to the Associated Press.
"People were raising their hands up in the air showing they were without arms but soldiers were still shooting at them."
'Bodies on trucks'
The violence erupted after days of peaceful protest in the eastern city of Andijan, against the imprisonment of 23 local business leaders accused of Islamic extremism.
A mob reportedly seized arms from a local garrison, before raiding the prison where the men were held and freeing them, along with thousands of other inmates.

UZBEK TENSIONS

Most populous central Asian former Soviet republic, home to 26m people
Ruled since independence in 1991 by autocrat Islam Karimov
Accused by rights groups of serious human rights abuses, including torture
Rocked by violence in capital Tashkent in 2004
Government says radical Islamic groups behind violence

Tough regime's unlikely allies
What lies behind protests?
Media clampdown stifles news
They also took control of administrative buildings in the city and took government workers hostage, according to reports.
Just before dusk, troops moved in and opened fire on the crowds in the city square.
Men, women and children fled in panic. One woman spoke of "indiscriminate firing", and said she saw "bloody corpses" lying in a ditch.
Helicopters hovered overhead as cars and buildings burned, reports said.
President Karimov told a press conference that the unrest was planned by Islamic militants linked with the banned Hizb ut-Tahrir movement, who wanted to overthrow the government.
He said the leaders of the uprising had been on the phone to Kyrgyzstan and Afghanistan during the siege.
"Their aims are hatred and aversion to the secular path of development. These are unacceptable for us," he said.

President Karimov blamed the violence on Islamic militants
On Saturday civilians dragged six bodies from an abandoned administrative building, placing them at the foot of a nearby monument to an Uzbek poet.
Witnesses said they had seen troops loading dozens of bodies onto trucks.
Hospital officials told the BBC that at least 50 had died and many more were wounded throughout the day.
The city appeared calmer on Saturday, though the occasional shot could be heard in the background, a reporter for the AFP agency said.
Troops were standing by in neighbouring streets as people began to fill the square.
Journalists said they were being expelled by soldiers who had set up a cordon around the city.

I think the West should rethink its relationship with Uzbekistan

Bauyrzhan Meirmanov, Shymkent, Kazakhstan

Uzbek crisis: Your comments
Authorities in neighbouring Kyrgyzstan said thousands of terrified Uzbeks had gathered on the border, and about 500 had managed to break through.
Friday's violence prompted alarm around the world.
In the US, White House spokesman Scott McClellan called for both sides to show restraint.
The EU criticised Uzbek leaders for not paying enough attention to human rights, the rule of law and relieving poverty.
Mr Karimov has taken a tough line on security since a spate of suicide bombings last year, blamed on Islamic extremists.
But critics say the president is using the threat of extremism as a cover to crush dissent.
Andijan, in the densely-populated Ferghana Valley, has a long tradition of independent thought, and is eyed by the government with suspicion, says the BBC's Monica Whitlock in Tashkent.
Thousands of local people have been locked up.
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[Ugnet] FW: The results of your email commands

2005-05-11 Thread Y Yaobang


Netters,
I have not received mail from Ugandanet forthe last month or so. Occassionally I get the reminders below, and when I respond, I get negative messages. I have even written to Kiggs, but wapi!
Are some of us (non-southerners) being systematically exterminated from Ugandanetoba what???
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[Ugnet] Yaobang cut off

2005-05-06 Thread Y Yaobang

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[Ugnet] UPC did not steal 1980 poll

2005-04-30 Thread Y Yaobang

Without Mincing Words | Andrew M. Mwenda

...

There were irregularities but UPC did not steal 1980 poll

May 1 - 7, 2005

Although many people claim that the 1980 election was won by the Democratic Party and stolen by the Uganda Peoples Congress, I have not seen or heard any evidence backing it up.
All there are anecdotal stories here and cooked up facts there. I agree there were significant irregularities in the 1980 election process. But that is not evidence that without them DP would have won.
In the Supreme Court case Kizza Besigye brought against President Museveni after the 2001 presidential elections, court ruled that although there were significant irregularities, they were not sufficient to alter the final outcome. Why? The Constitution does not rule out the possibility of irregularities in an electoral process for the simple reason that human nature cannot be trusted to produce such perfection.

RIGGED POLLS? Dr Obote

WRONG CONCLUSION? Mr Museveni

1980 BOSS: Mr Muwwanga
However, courts are supposed to adjudicate on whether the results reflect the freely expressed will of the people. Irregularities alone cannot overturn an election. They must be widespread enough so as to alter the final outcome as well. Let me be clear: I am not an apologist for electoral fraud; elections should be free and fair. But we should also not be idealistic and hope for perfection.
The claim that Military Commission Chairman Paulo Muwanga rigged the election in favour of the UPC is based on a proclamation he issued on December 11, 1980. What did the proclamation say? What were its legal implications? Here are the facts: the election was held on December 10, 1980. Because of delays in delivering ballot papers to some areas, the Electoral Commission requested the Military Commission to extend the day and time of polling to the next day.
According to the Provision of Section 21(2)(a) of the National Assembly (Elections) Act, polling in Uganda was supposed to begin and end on the same day. Muwanga's declaration was partly meant to legalise the extension of balloting to December 11. On December 8, 1980, Muwanga had issued a statement in which he first removed all roadblocks across the country and lifted the curfew on polling day. He also announced that "in order to ensure that no political party is given an opportunity to complain that ballot boxes have been tampered with, the Military Commission has decided that the counting of all votes will take place at polling centres, immediately after close of polling".
The National Assembly (Elections) Act had envisaged ballot boxes being taken to district headquarters where counting would take place the next day. The December 11, proclamation was again partly meant to give legal effect to immediate counting at polling centres.
The third aspect of the declaration is the most controversial, for Muwanga now arrogated himself sole power to announce the results as well as the power to declare the poll in individual constituencies to be invalid.
The proclamation imposed severe penalties on anyone announcing the results and provided that no decision of the chairman of the Military Commission could be challenged in any court of law.As Commonwealth observers noted, "this part of the proclamation had the effect to completely negate the open basis on which the elections have been conducted."
I am inclined to believe Milton Obote's story that he went to see Muwanga at Nile Mansions and compelled him to withdraw the proclamation. This claim is confirmed by Tony Avigan and Martha Honey, the two British journalists who covered the war against Idi Amin and the entire 1979-1981 period in Uganda in their book War in Uganda: The Legacy of Idi Amin. It is even further confirmed by the report of the Commonwealth observers who said that after hearing the announcement, they immediately sought audience with Muwanga to protest.
"We were unable to meet the Chairman of the Military Commission until early the next morning," their report says. "We found that in advance to our representations, he (Muwanga) had already prepared a press statement which he had agreed with the leaders of the UPC and the DP and which had the effect of preserving the proclamation in force [because of the positive way it had amended the election law] whilst authorising returning officers and the Electoral Commission to publicly announce results."
The Commonwealth observers grabbed the report, gave it to the press and after a few hours, returning officers and the Electoral Commission began to announce the results - the first results being announced on Radio Uganda shortly after 2 p.m on December 12, 1980.
Muwanga and the Military Commission did not validate or announce the results.The Commonwealth observers noted: "Earlier in the day, (December 12th), we had debriefed all our assistants who had returned to Kampala from various parts of the country and it had become apparent to us from the

RE: [Ugnet] How Mbeki Declined Backing Obasanjo's Third Term Bid

2005-04-17 Thread Y Yaobang

If only President Mbeki could stop dictator Museveni from doing the same (from Third Term) in Uganda. But Mbeki's record has been so dismall -- hehas been such a dismall failure in AFRICA.
y
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How Mbeki Declined Backing Obasanjo's Third Term Bid
Laolu Akande New-York

Exclusive report

Sunday, April 17, 2005

http://www.guardiannewsngr.com/news/article07

After President Olusegun Obasanjo openly stated that he is under pressure to run for a third term amid rumors speculating on such plans, more details are beginning to emerge on the international dimensions of the move.

Diplomatic sources have disclosed to The Guardian on Sunday that Obasanjo had sought the understanding of the South African President Thabo Mbeki in case he has to stay in power for some more time in order to successfully complete his reform agenda. The sources, some of whom are very close to Mbeki, explained that Mbeki had hinted back to Obasanjo that such a move would be contrary to the spirit of good governance which both of them have been championing.

It was revealed that Mbeki had played a critical role in 2003, when formidable forces in the PDP, including a good number of PDP Governors had planned to ensure that Obasanjo was not nominated for a second term. Mbeki as the diplomats recalled to The Guardian had met several of the PDP Governors and other critical political forces in the country including former military president Ibrahim Babangida and urged them to support Obasanjo for a second term.

According to the diplomats, Mbeki had argued that it would be a disgrace for Obasanjo-a leading African leader at the forefront of efforts to reshape Africa and inspire international confidence-not to be nominated by his party for reelection when he is known to be interested in a second term.

Although it was not clear how much of Mbeki's persuasion swayed support for Obasanjo who was eventually nominated by his party, but the sources said Mbeki came thought as a friendly international backer for Obasanjo going up to the 2003 election.

The diplomats, some of which were aware of the meetings Mbeki held with some of the Nigerian politicians, and other who said Mbeki narrated the events to them personally disclosed that many of the politicians that Mbeki spoke with including IBB, had warned him that he-Mbeki-knew so little about Obasanjo. But Mbeki had asked that Obasanjo be given a benefit of the doubt.

This was why according to the diplomats that Mbeki himself was surprised that Obasanjo even considered and encouraged certain elements who wanted him to take a third term. Mbeki was said to have categorically informed Obasanjo that he could not possibly support such a move to back Obasanjo for a third term.

Speaking last month in Berlin, Germany, Obasanjo himself revealed that he is indeed under pressure to run for a third term. Although the president did not reveal the names of those mounting the pressure he did say he was not interested. Obasanjo had been invited by members of the German-African Association to deliver a lecture on: Nigeria: A strong emerging economy? In the question and answer session, President Obasanjo confirmed rife speculations about a third term ambition.

Said Obasanjo: They keep worrying me, maybe you should stay a little longer...But I believe our transition will not be complete without transiting from government to government and from one personality to another?

But diplomats warned that it is in line with Obasanjo's public service record that he is always succumbing to external pressure to serve, just like he did when he took over power from Murtala and when he agreed to stand election for presidency in 1999 after he had publicly stated that he was not interested.

The Guardian was told that one of the reasons driving a third term for Obasanjo is the feeling among his closest advisers that his first term may indeed have been completely wasted in terms of confronting the major issues facing the country, especially the reform agenda. Obasanjo is said to be of the view that it is now that his quest to reform and halt the slide in the nation, is beginning to gather momentum and to sustain such a momentum more time would be needed lest the zeal is quenched by a new regime that would not share the same agenda.

But Mbeki's refusal so far to play along is said to be a major setback, even though a tougher hurdle is said to await Obasanjo regarding the attitude of other leading nations like the US, UK and the European Union. A State Dept source had once explained to The Guardian that the US was still awaiting the transfer of power from one particular president to another before Nigeria can be really considered as a stable civilian regime. And until Obasanjo

RE: [Ugnet] Re: [FedsNet] M7 gained from neo-colonialism [Letters--WklyObserver]

2005-04-15 Thread Y Yaobang

Musamize,
Please remember that Museveni is a political masturbator; all he cares for is himself, self power ingratiation, period. y
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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 18:28:13 -0700 (PDT)

Mr. Basudde:

Thank you so very much for posting the letter which hilights Museveni's hypocrsy.

Doe anyone recall how he(MU7) lambasted African leaders for wanting fancy titles e.g. "his excellency", and flying off to attend OAU or UN conferences in multi-millon dollar jets while the citizens were walking bearfoot?

Well on his watch, not only did he buy a US $40M presidential gulf-stream that had even conservertive then senator Grahm (R- TX)bewildered about the opulence of third world presidents -- he quickly added a US $400,000 Range Rover (are its rims made of gold?),and that was after he had already acquired a US $1M mercedes benz --, but citizens of Uganda today die of jiggers!

To add insult to injury, he has proposed that the State House be rebuilt completely. Cost? A cool US $150M! And that was after the old State House was perennially allocated money to repair it don't (just take my word for it, look at copies of the past budgets), and after the public had balked at an obscenely overpriced repair bill of US $60M., etc etc etc.

Museveni runs circles around Swaziland's King Muswati when it comes to squandering a nation's scarce financial resources or running up a public debt thatwould take all the drunken sailors from an armada of aircraft carriers a month of Sundays to even rival.

By the time you toss in looting the natural resources of the DRC -- oh yes, the DRC will sue Uganda for reparations even if by then Mu7 may be sweating in purgatory-- and you got one heck of a mess!

Need I mention that as of now, Uganda is a reccuring basket case that depends on begging and charity for well over 50% of her annual budget -- debt forgiveness be damned, and in spite of the fact that there has been no Ethiopian level-drought in Uganda for decades??

Need I detain you while I wonder at the NGOization of the Ugandan economy to a level not seen befor on the African continent.

But, what truly amazes me, is that a man with with such an abysmal record is shamelessly campaining to be re-elected!

Ugandans need to wake up and ask him soberly: what have you done for me lately, and at what cost?

James Basudde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

M7 gained from neo-colonialism
14th April 2005

While presiding over the release of the 2002 National Census results at Speke Resort Muyonyo, the President lambasted foreigners for meddling in our national affairs, saying they failed to govern us when they where our colonial masters.

Much as what Museveni said might seem sensible, even the President is a direct beneficiary of the neo-colonial era. In 1986, when he had just captured power, Museveni came in with a mentality of self-reliance and Africanisation, castigating former leaders for purchasing furniture from Italy when it could be made locally in Kawempe. He also wondered why they should spend lavishly on cutlery from Europe when he was drinking from a mug made by TUMPECO.

As they say, time is the best judge, and now 20 years down the road, we have a Westernised President Museveni whose State House furniture is imported from Europe; whose daughter delivers in EUROPE. When he quarrels with his neighbours (such as Rwanda), he has to fly to EUROPE to settle their differences. When his daughters need education, they have to be enrolled in Western fashion colleges in Minnesota, U.S.A.

When his son needs military training, he is enrolled at Sandhurst Military Academy, previously having been enrolled at Nottingham University  all in EUROPE.
His motorcade is composed of vehicles manufactured in EUROPE; the Presidents suits, shoes and ties are all made in EUROPE. So when you start criticising the Europeans, you should remember that you are a direct beneficiary of neo-colonialism.

So we should all ask ourselves, should the Europeans be wrong to criticise you if the opulence of your lifestyle and family evolves around their products and when over 50 percent of your national budget is donor funded?

As the saying goes, people who live in glasshouses should not throw stones.

Malcolm Byagaba, London. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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[Ugnet] Museveni

2005-04-12 Thread Y Yaobang

The most presidential political mastabator Uganda has ever had.
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RE: [Ugnet] Japan's virgin wives turn to sex volunteers (From SA's Mail Guardian)

2005-04-05 Thread Y Yaobang

Mmmm ... No wonder they turn to Ugandan former presidents!!!
y
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Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 21:03:55 -0500

Japan's virgin wives turn to sex volunteers

/04 April 2005 10:16/
Like many Japanese women, Junko waited until her early 30s to get
married. When she and her fiancé, an employee of a well-known firm,
decided to tie the knot, she set her sights on making a home,
putting away some money and starting a family.

Fifteen years later, Junko and her husband are childless. It is not
that they cannot have children; it is just that they have never had
sex.

The sexless marriage is one of several reasons why experts fear
Japan is on the verge of a demographic disaster.

In 2003, Japan's birth-rate hit a record low of 1,29 -- the average
number of times a woman gives birth during her lifetime -- one of
the lowest rates in the world, according to the cabinet office. The
population will peak next year at about 128 million, then decline to
just over 100 million by 2050.

The 200 women a year who seek help at a clinic in the Tokyo suburbs
have not had sex with their husbands in up to 20 years, and some
never, according to Kim Myong-gan, who runs the clinic.

"The women who come to see me love their husbands and aren't looking
for a divorce," he told the Guardian. "The problem is that their
husbands lose interest in sex or don't want sex from the start. Many
men think of their wives as substitute mothers, not as women with
emotional and sexual needs."

Kim's short-term solution is unconventional. After an initial 20 000
yen (about R1 165) counselling session, he produces photographs of
45 men, mostly professionals in their 40s, with whom the women are
invited to go on dates and then, in almost all cases, arrange
regular assignations in hotel rooms.

Kim dismissed charges that his service was little more than a male
prostitution ring. "The men volunteer and pay half the hotel and
restaurant bills, so legally there is absolutely nothing wrong with
it," he said.

He had rescued hundreds of women from despair, he said, but his "sex
volunteers" would do nothing to cure the malaise that afflicts the
institution of marriage in Japan.

The number of married couples is in rapid decline. In 2000, almost
70% of men and 54% of women between 25 and 29 were unmarried. That
bodes ill for the birth-rate, as conservative Japanese society
frowns upon having children outside marriage.

A survey of 600 women found that 26% had not had sex with their
husbands in the past year.

"We are sort of room-mates rather than a married couple," one
31-year-old man, who had not had sex with his wife for two years,
told the Asahi Shimbun newspaper.

The government has introduced several measures to lift the
birth-rate. Fathers will be encouraged to take more than the 47% of
annual paid leave they currently use, and their employers will be
told to provide more opportunities for them to stay at home with
their children.

Local authorities, meanwhile, are devising novel ways to increase
fertility. In the town of Yamatsuri, women will receive 1-million
yen if they have a third child, and in Ishikawa prefecture families
with three children will get discounts at shops and restaurants.

The absence of children in so many homes is having an impact. Fun
parks are closing and there are signs that the "exam hell" teenagers
go through to secure places at top schools and universities is less
of an ordeal because the competition is less fierce.

The divorce rate has nearly doubled in the past 10 years, with more
women blaming their sexually inactive, as opposed to sexually
errant, husbands for break-ups.

"The men love their companies; they live for work," Kim said. "Men
don't even think it is a problem if they don't have sex with their
wives. They have pornography and the sex industry to take care of
their needs, but their wives have nowhere to go. They just suffer in
silence." -- Guardian Unlimited © Guardian Newspapers Limited 2005

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RE: [Ugnet] Ofwono Opondo Caught Shoplifting Underwear !!

2005-04-04 Thread Y Yaobang

Wow!!
Mr. Bigambwa, be carefull, I hope you dont get in trouble.y
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Subject: [Ugnet] Ofwono OpondoCaught Shoplifting Underwear !!

Ofwono Opondo in shoplifting scandalBy Simon KasyateKAMPALA  The Director of Information at the Movement Secretariat, Mr Ofwono Opondo, was on Saturday fined for suspected shoplifting.

Sources at Uchumi Supermarket told The Monitor yesterday that security personnel at Garden City Mall stopped Opondo in the parking lot after he had walked off with undeclared underwear and a pen.

Opondo, also the spokesman of the National Resistance Movement, has denied the shoplifting charges, although he has admitted that he was involved in a small incident at the store.
Sources at the supermarket said Opondo arrived at the store at 11:30 a.m. and bought a bottle of mineral water. After paying, the source said, he found his way back to the shopping floor.

He moved around and went to the stall for underwear, picked one and put it in his trouser pocket, said a security officer who was monitoring the shoppers. He then moved round again and stopped at a stall for pens where he picked one and placed it in his shirt pocket.

When he was through, Opondo allegedly strode out and headed for the parking lot.
Security personnel followed and got him. They reportedly told him that he had undeclared and unpaid for items from the store.
An officer said, a visibly shocked and embarrassed Opondo obliged and was escorted to Garden Citys security office.

He was asked to make a statement which he did using a different name and asked to pay the fine, said another security officer at Garden City who preferred anonymity.
But before writing the statement, he was searched and found to be armed; this raised suspicion, the security officer added.
Opondo reportedly did not reveal his exact identity until his identity card was found on him.

Another colleague walked in at that time and said he knew this man from the newspapers and he had just been on Capital Gang, said the security officer.
Opondo is a panelist on the Capital Radio talk-show which is aired every Saturday morning. He was, however, not on the show on Saturday.

The security officer added that Opondo pleaded with management and the Chief Security Officer on duty, Mr Eliab Bigambwa, to allow him use a different name and keep quiet about the incident.
He reportedly recorded his statement under the name John Okello.
The Monitor was unable to get a comment from Bigambwa.
In the statement, Opondo reportedly claimed it was an oversight not to pay for the items.

He was handed a fine, calculated at ten times the cost price of the item shoplifted.
The underwear costs Shs13,100 while the pen costs Shs3,000.
He was asked to pay Shs131,000, which he did by pulling out three new Shs50,000 notes and he immediately walked out without even waiting for the balance, said a security officer who was present.

It was not clear why he was not billed the fine for the pen which would have increased the figure by Shs 30,000.
Opondo confirmed to The Monitor that he had indeed been at Uchumi on Saturday, but he denied the shoplifting claims. Yes I was there and I did my routine shopping, he said. I went past the register inadvertently with a Bic pen which was in my shirt pocket, but I didnt get out of the building. I was called back and we sorted the matter.

Opondo added: I have no guilt about forgetting to pay for such small items.
The Uchumi management neither confirmed nor denied the incident.
We get shoplifters everyday, but our interest is not who they are in society, said an official who declined to be named. Our interest is to recover the goods and have the fine paid.

Pressed hard on the details around the incident involving Opondo, the officer replied, No comment.
When asked if they registered a shoplifter under the names of John Okello, the officer said: That was an internal matter that we resolved. Whether or not we were cheated on name, that is not our interest since the goods were recovered and the fine paid.

According to Uchumis policy, a person apprehended for shoplifting is charged a fine ten times the cost of the items. The lifted items are retained by the store.

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[Ugnet] UgandaNet

2005-03-25 Thread Y Yaobang


Hi Kiggundu,
I have tried and failed to get back to Ugandanet. How come?
Please re-instate me back to the net. Thanks.
There is no problem with my email inbox.
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[Ugnet] ugandanet

2005-03-18 Thread Y Yaobang

HI Kiggundu,
Ive been struck off Ugandanet again! I tried to re-instate my self to nno avail. My inbox is never full. Please help.Thanks.
y
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RE: [Ugnet] Archives of UgandaNet

2005-03-16 Thread Y Yaobang

I've tried to get back on the net, but wapi. Something wrong? My inbox is never full.
y
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RE: [Ugnet] Archives of UgandaNet

2005-03-13 Thread Y Yaobang

I have not received messages from Ugandanet for sometime. My e3mail is not full. What is going on?
y
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RE: [Ugnet] THE WAR MONGER, MUSEVENI, CONTINUES TO DO WHAT HE DOES BEST :WAR CONTINUES IN UGANDA!!!!

2005-02-23 Thread Y Yaobang

This is dictator Museveni at his best, ou are right. We must stop the asshole; donors, or called development partners,wont.
y
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Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 16:29:04 -0800 (PST)

UPDF Resumes Fighting LRA

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February 23, 2005
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Frank Nyakairu
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UPDF soldiers from the 503 Brigade have reoccupied the ceasefire zone in Palabet, Kitgum, after the 18-day ceasefire expired three days ago.

The northern region intelligence chief, Lt. Col. Charles Otema, told The Monitor yesterday that operations had resumed against the Lords Resistance Army rebels after the signing of a memorandum of understanding failed during the truce.
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Our soldiers have already began operations against the rebels until they decide to come out and surrender, Otema said in Gulu yesterday.

During the 18-day ceasefire, no meeting between either the mediating team of the government and LRA took place. Hours before the truce expired, the chief government mediator, Ms Betty Bigombe, appealed to the rebels to take advantage of the truce and sign a total ceasefire deal, which was earlier hampered by last minute hitches on New Years Eve.

But Bigombe, who took time off her World Bank job in Washington, was still optimistic that talks were still on course and the deal would be signed soon.

The talks are still on, we are in touch with the rebels and there is no doubt that we will sign a ceasefire deal, Bigombe told reporters.

During the 64 days of government ceasefire, Bigombe met the LRA teams nine times and most of the members of the LRA peace team, including its leader Brig. Sam Kolo and Onen Kamdulu have since surrendered to UPDF The head of the government peace team, Dr Ruhakana Rugunda, who met with Brig. Kolo in Gulu on Tuesday, said there was no immediate ceasefire renewal.

The commander in chief will review the situation and take appropriate action on the ceasefire but for now fighting will continue as we work with Brigadier Kolo and his colleagues to accelerate the peace process, Rugunda said. It is not yet clear which turn the talks sponsored by the United Nations, Britain, Netherlands and Norway will take after fighting resumes.
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This is the highest talks ever got after Bigombes peace initiative with LRAs leader Joseph Kony in 1993 collapsed after President Museveni accused the rebels of using the ceasefire to plan for more attacks.

This comes at a time when the International Criminal Court is investigating the LRA over crimes against humanity in the long running conflict. The LRA has fought President Yoweri Musevenis government since 1988.

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[Ugnet] UgandaNet Dead?

2005-02-21 Thread Y Yaobang


Mr. K. Mukasa,
Is Ugandanet dead or oba what?
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RE: [Ugnet] War resumes

2005-01-01 Thread Y Yaobang

What peace jokes! We knew all along that dictator Museveni was not committed to the talks. 
yFrom: Matek Opoko [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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War resumes
By Frank Nyakairu
Jan 2, 2005

Kony ambushes army as talks collapse

GULU Things seem to be falling apart in northern Uganda once again, with the rebels injuring four UPDF soldiers in a morning ambush in Gulu yesterday.

One soldier is missing in action.

The rebels ambushed and burnt up a UPDF pick-up truck on its way from Gulu to Alero. The truck, which was hit using a rocket-propelled grenade at 9:30 a.m., was loaded with meat for soldiers in Alero to feast on as part of their New Year's Day celebrations.

"This shows their New Year resolution," Lt. Paddy Ankunda, the army's spokesman in northern Uganda, said of the Lord's Resistance Army rebels.
Alero is 16km outside Gulu town.

The ambush came as the government announced a resumption of its campaign against the rebels following the failure to sign a ceasefire agreement on Friday.

"We have begun operations today [Saturday] at 7 a.m.," defence and military spokesman Shaban Bantariza told Sunday Monitor earlier yesterday before news of the ambush broke.

The government and the LRA rebels failed to sign a ceasefire deal on Friday, the day when the government's latest period of unilateral cessation of hostilities was slated to expire. The rebels said they were still consulting amongst themselves, although Maj. Bantariza said the failure was because of "disagreements among [the rebels.]"

Had the ceasefire agreement been signed, it would have been a landmark step toward ending the brutal 18-year rebellion in north-central Uganda.
President Museveni had warned in his New Year national address that failure to sign the deal by the rebels would lead to a resumption of the UPDF campaign within hours.

It now happens that Kony took to the President;s message seriously and swung into action before the UPDF.

"If Kony's group do not irreversibly commit themselves to coming out of the bush by the 31st of December 2004, then UPDF will start full-scale operations, beginning 0700 hours, the 1st of January 2005," the President said in his written address.

The cessation of hostilities deal had been reached during meetings between the government team led by Internal Affairs Minister Ruhakana Rugunda and the LRA team led by rebel publicist Sam Kolo on Wednesday in Paloda, Palabek ceasefire zone in Kitgum district.

The government says the talks can continue but from "abroad not in Uganda not in southern Sudan".

A source close to the peace process said yesterday that "the spirit of negotiations is still high", though Dr Rugunda was returning to Kampala from Kitgum, where he had been since Tuesday.

© 2005 The Monitor Publications.

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RE: [Ugnet] Rwanda speaks on PRA training bases

2004-11-27 Thread Y Yaobang

The Great Lakes would be a peaceful and prosperous region if it were not for dictator Museveni of Uganda.
yThe 
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That is total rubbish, Lt. Gen. Charles Kayonga, the chief of staff of the Rwanda Defence Forces, said yesterday. It is not possible that Rwanda can train and arm the so-called PRA. That is a negative media campaign by the Uganda government.

I think I would agreewith Mr. Kayonga, purely on logical grounds. How can Rwanda "train rebels" in Rwandawith out providing them with ARMS in Rwanda ? Instead Rwanda, according to NRM logic, sends the "rebels" all the way to Northern Uganda, Koboko to be specific, The "rebels" are then sent weapons later!!this does not and cannot make any sense ...one would think that if Rwanda were to train the "rebels' as Museveni's Regime claims, Rwanda would ARM the rebelsthere there and then while they are still in the "training Camps"right.This is all Museveni's crap to arrest wananchi of Koboko and charge them with dubiousallegations!!Mbhu they are Terrorist.! Kaguta seems to get very paranoid by the minute...West Nile watch out for Museveni... he wants to create another rebels 
Movement in West ..and then later use itas justification to wipe out the Lugwara and Kakwa citizens..even as he has wiped out the Acholi!!

Matek

Rwanda speaks on PRA training bases
By Frank Nyakairu
Nov 28, 2004

KAMPALA  The Rwandan military has dismissed as rubbish allegations that it is training Ugandan rebels to wage war against the Museveni government.
The latest accusations over the anti-Museveni Peoples Redemption Army (PRA) rebels have since led to the two countries expelling each others diplomatic officials.

That is total rubbish, Lt. Gen. Charles Kayonga, the chief of staff of the Rwanda Defence Forces, said yesterday. It is not possible that Rwanda can train and arm the so-called PRA. That is a negative media campaign by the Uganda government.

Kayonga was responding to claims by Ugandas Chief of Military Intelligence James Mugira that Rwanda has been training PRA recruits at bases in that country such as Kabuga.
Lt. Col. Mugiras claims on Thursday followed the arrest earlier in the week of 10 suspected members of the PRA, a group government says is based in the DR Congo.

Most of the suspects, arrested in Koboko, are accused of bankrolling and buying arms for the rebel group.
To claims that the PRA is headed by UPDF deserter, Col. Edison Muzoora, Kayonga said, That colonel is not known to me. He has never been here for anything like that.

The PRA suspects include exiled former presidential candidate Kizza Besigyes brother Joseph Musasizi.
Military intelligence also claims that Besigye, who lives in exile in South Africa, is PRAs political head, an allegation he has denied.
Kayonga said that Rwanda was unhappy because the Ugandan authorities have chosen to go against the agreed mechanisms and address issues through the media.

He added: If we have any allegations against Uganda, we shall address them through the Joint Permanent Commission.
We are not addressing our differences in the media, said Ugandan military spokesman Shaban Bantariza. Its the captives who reported their Rwanda connections to the media.

Movement spokesman Ofwono Opondo also said the matter would go to the verification commission.
The claims and counterclaims have since cost diplomatic officials on either side their jobs.

Uganda moved first, expelling the administrative attaché at the Rwandan embassy in Kampala, Mr James Wizeye, prompting Rwanda to retaliate by ordering the countrys First Secretary in Kigali, Mr Joseph Cliff Birungi, to pack up his bags within hours. Both diplomats have arrived in their home countries.

Opondo, however, wondered why the Rwandese did not expel someone at the level of administrative attaché as is normally the case in diplomacy, and instead went for someone of a higher rank.

That is strange, he said, before suggesting that it could point to Kigalis guilt.
Ugandas ambassador to Rwanda, Mr Adonia Ayebare, who is in Kampala on what he claimed was annual leave, said: This is unfortunate but it is not that bad. It is being handled through the established mechanisms.

Chilly relations between Uganda and Rwanda go back to when their forces clashed in Kisangani on three occasions starting in 1999 at the height of a civil war there that took on a regional character. Up to six countries got involved.

© 2004 The Monitor Publications

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RE: [Ugnet] Philadelphier Inquirer's Ms. Carolyn Davis on the war inNorthern Uganda

2004-11-27 Thread Y Yaobang

This sad picture of kids in this camp tells it all. How can dictator Museveni do this to us, and we let him and his sychophants do this to our kids?Why?
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Lets save the children of northern Uganda
By Carolyn Davis
Nov 28 - Dec 4, 2004

Everything under Gods gaze has its moment.
These moments provide opportunities that the wise, the brave and the good-hearted know they must seize. And so they do.

There now is just such a moment in northern Uganda. A bright opportunity  in the form of peace talks led by the indefatigable Betty Bigombe  exists to bring peace and stability to a part of this great nation that has seen much sorrow and bloodletting.
INNOCENT WAR VICTIMS: Children sleep in one of the night commuter centres in Gulu town (Photo by James Akena)
Talks to end the fighting between the government of Uganda and the Lords Resistance Army are inching along. Both sides are in contact with Ms Bigombe. Both sides have made positive gestures toward peace: President Museveni earns praise for calling a ceasefire; some LRA officials have responded by moving to an agreed-upon location for further discussions. These developments, on the surface, are good news.

Aah, says the weary Ugandan. We have ridden this boda-boda before and the ride always has ended in more fighting, more abductions and greater destruction. Why should we believe this time will be different?
Why? Because this time, the world is watching.

This time, these peace talks follow United Nations Undersecretary General for Humanitarian Affairs Jan Egelands visit to the north. After seeing the suffering, he described the situation there as a moral outrage... I cannot find any other part of the world that is having an emergency on the scale of Uganda, that is getting such little international attention.

And the talks follow Unicef Executive Director Carol Bellamys visit to the north in May, after which she said: The world needs to wake up to the enormity of the crisis in northern Uganda.
And this time, there is the laser-like focus by US President George Bush on finding a peaceful resolution to the war in neighbouring Sudan, which has played a role in harbouring and sustaining LRA leader Joseph Kony and his rebels. One of Bushs core constituencies, known in the United States as the religious right, has joined with human rights activists in pushing Washington toward resolving wars in this region. That interest is strong and enduring and enshrined in legislation called the Northern Uganda Crisis Response Act, which asks for a report to the US Congress on the war in the north.

This moment in the history of war in northern Uganda is personally and distinctively different for me too. I have for some time been writing about the plight of children in northern Uganda for my newspaper, The Philadelphia Inquirer. But now I have seen first-hand in Lira, Gulu and Kitgum districts what Ive been writing about from afar. I have talked to affected families. I have slept in a courtyard with the tiny night commuters (OK, I didnt actually get much sleep).

I also have talked with Ugandans from around the country. I have been touched by their intelligence, ambition and compassion, and I have been wowed by a Kampala that has seen so much progress since I last was here in 1998.

When I wrote above of the smart and the strong and the brave, I meant you  the Ugandan public. You are wise enough to know your country cannot prosper to its full potential if the war in the north continues to drain money from the treasury and keep that agriculturally rich part of the country from contributing its share to the economy.

You are kind-hearted enough to know that the responsibility for taking care of Ugandan children, no matter their ethnic group, falls to Ugandan adults, no matter their ethnic group. The Ugandans I have spoken to do not want their homeland to be known as a place where such horrific abuse of children is allowed.

And you are brave enough to say enough killing already. It is time for Uganda and Ugandans to act as a whole for the good of the nation, its children and its future.
As a journalist, and as a humanitarian worker for several years, I have followed the hazards that children face daily around the world. Some of them are the natural hazards of drought or floods. There is little I or others can do about those. But other threats are man-made and show the worst side of adults capable of sacrificing innocent children for political or personal agendas.

About that, I can do something. I can visit northern Uganda. I can urge action by writing in my newspaper and others. I can ask  as many times as necessary, no matter how shaky may be the boda-boda ride  that adults live up to their God-given role as the

RE: [Ugnet] Muntu regrets joining the bush war, warns M7!

2004-11-01 Thread Y Yaobang

Who is Muuntu fooling? Where has been all these years when we are suffering? If Muuntu is really serious, and I think he can be,then he should do something about dictator Museveni now; lead us to salvation. Otherwise his warnings areall just that, hot air, just like that of others before him ... Remember Tinyenfuzza's about turn? Muuntu may also end up running away into exile, leaving his supporters to face the wrath of the dictator!
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Former army chief warns of dangerous consequences
MAKERERE  Maj. Gen. Mugisha Muntu has warned President Yoweri Museveni and pro-third term agitators that they risk suffering dangerous consequences if they try to cling to power. All these frustrated attempts to cling to power are because some people are fearful and terrified of losing power. The fear they are living is something normal and human which is why, we in FDC, would like to encourage them not to cling on because the consequences will be very dangerous, Muntu said.He was addressing Makerere University students at a consultative meeting at the university campus on Friday. The meeting had been convened by Kawempe South MP, Mr Sebuliba Mutumba, to brief his constituents on the Cabinets White Paper which recommends amendment of the Constitution to remove the presidential term limits.Muntu is a member of the opposition Forum for Democratic Change (FDC), which is aspi
 ring to contest for presidency in 2006.Bribing MPs at this critical moment is a sign of fear and mistrust by the incumbent, he said.He said the fear to lose power had caused NRMO functionaries to bribe MPs for support. They are feeling inadequate, Muntu said.Several Movement MPs last week received about Shs5 million for what the government called facilitation to support the White Paper recommendations. But the payment has attracted strong criticism from the opposition, who say it is a ploy to bribe MPs to support the removal of presidential term limits to allow Museveni get a third term. Muntu saluted Lwemiyaga MP, Mr Theodore Ssekikubo, for exposing the bribery syndicate when he told a press conference last week that he had rejected the NRMO demand that he pronounces himself on the third term before he could be given the Shs5 million. Muntu said the FDC has irrefutable evidence that the government has prepared much money to bribe othe
 r politically sensitive groups especially the youth to support the third term.FDC is currently compiling the evidence implicating the government in bigger plans to bribe the youth not to support cause for change. We shall very soon expose this grand plan, he said.He urged the youth to reject such bribes. He assured MPs of FDC support and urged them to resist bribes and be patriotic to defend the Constitution. Our good MPs, we are behind you. Be firm. Museveni and group should know that no amount of intimidation or bribery will push the entire electorate into political docility, he said.Predicting a strong anti-Museven coalition in 2006, Muntu expressed optimism that the opposition would triumph in 2006 if fair elections were held. The current political situation is unfortunate, but is reversible if all of us can stand up to be counted, he said. Why should we be ruled so badly. We deserve better. We deserve dignity as human beings. We are ca
 pable of changing our society politically and we shall do it. There must be no doubt about that, Muntu added.The students cheered back, General, we are behind you. We shall follow you. Tell us right now. Muntu said that considering bad governance in the country today, he was regretting why he joined the bush war to fight former president, Dr Milton Obote, 20 years ago.MPs Odonga Otto, Reagan Okumu, Patrick Musisi, Sebuliba Mutumba, Ogenga Latigo, Alex Onzima, Elijah Okupa, Christopher Kibanzanga and Jack Sabiiti attended the meeting. 

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Re: [Ugnet] Poor shun Uganda's celebration (attn Mulindwa)

2004-10-12 Thread Y Yaobang

Independence withoutfreedom of association and rights means nothing. The fact of the matter is, Ugandans, including the Baganda, have realised this and are sick and tired of dictator Museveni, who has usurped our freedoms and rights for the last 18-some years. What wehave to do now is to ditch the mulalo, foreigner, ASAP, come 2006 latest.
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Nume 

Are Ugandans independent or you think they are all non critical thinkers? 

Em 
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"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" 

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 Mulindwa 

 Then why didn't the non Baganda go to support M7 if they are in the majority ? 

 hahaha 

 Nume 
 Edward Mulindwa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 Nume 

 You still think that Kampala business is carried out by Baganda and only Baganda. No wonder man you support Mengo's claim of Kampala. The last time I checked, Kampala was full of all Ugandans but again that is me. 

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 Mulindwa 

 You were wondering about how many Baganda like the Kabaka. 
 The real title should have been "Baganda Shun Independence celebrations" 

 Nume 

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 Poor shun Independence Day celebrations 
 By Agnes Nandutu  Peter Nyanzi 
 Oct 11, 2004 

 KAMPALA - As celebrations went on in Kololo to mark the country's 42nd Independence Day anniversary, many Ugandans went on with normal business. 

 A mini survey by The Monitor in Kampala's business district showed that most shops were open as usual. Most people said they were too poor to celebrate the day. 

 Mr Mesach Migadde, a secondhand shoe vendor in St. Balikuddembe Market, said he did not have the luxury to celebrate independence when he had nothing to eat. 

 "Let those in government celebrate," he said. Mr Andrew Kalule, a businessman at Nakivubo Mews, said, "Independence in poverty is useless. A nation without money is not independent." 

 Mr Abubaker Male, a 53-year-old butcher, said the day did not make much difference because "we are still in the hands of the whites in IMF and the World Bank". 

 "So what kind of independence are you talking about?" he asked. Mr Patrick Ssevume, a boda-boda rider, said he did not take Independence Day seriously because even the government does not. "In the past, there used to be flags everywhere in the city on Independence Day. 

 "Look around now, what is there in the city to show that today is Independence Day?" he asked. Mr Lule Swaib, who sells agricultural chemicals, said Ugandans could not be independent when they are not yet economically independent. 

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RE: [Ugnet] Museveni Meets Key 2006 Campaign Team - Monitor 8/10/2004

2004-10-07 Thread Y Yaobang

Dictator Museveni must quit power come 2006. He better not forget this. Let's avoid flooding Ugandan blood inRwakitura streets and beyond. We fought dictator Amin, we'll fight dictator Museveni too.

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Museveni meets key 06 campaign team 
By Andrew M. Mwenda 
Oct 8, 2004 - Monitor 

KAMPALA  President Yoweri Museveni has held a closed door meeting with a key campaign strategy team in what is seen as a start of the race for the 2006 presidency. 

Sources in State House told The Monitor the President did this during a meeting with his political aides on Thursday last week. 

A source who attended the meeting told The Monitor President Museveni told his staff that the Movement Secretariat is dead and the National Resistance Movement Organization (NRMO) is infiltrated by agent provocateurs so he would not trust them with his re-election campaign. 
Byaruhanga (above) and Fox Odoi 

Sources said the President asked his aides to bring together all his mobilizers and volunteer groups to begin grass-root mobilization for his candidature in the 2006 presidential campaigns. 

Among the strategies proposed by the President, sources said, is that all his mobilisers should speak with one voice. According to the source, the President told his political aides that they should first develop a common position on any major issue, and that should be the view all should defend in the media, especially radio talk-shows. 

The President wants this team to agree to use one language, not one going to FM radio stations saying this and another saying a different thing, the source said. 

Mr Moses Byaruhanga, the Presidential Assistant on Political Affairs and Mr Fox Odoi, the Presidents Legal Aide, attended the Thursday meeting but were not available for a comment. Mr Onapito Ekomoloits cell-phone was switched off. 

The Presidents Thursday meeting has generated anxiety within the NRMO some of whose members were unhappy with this development. 

A source at NRMO who declined to be named told The Monitor that since the political party was launched, Museveni, who is the chairman of its interim executive committee has not called any meeting to discuss party matters. 

The first time we met is when we elected the interim executive committee, the source said bitterly. The second meeting of the NRMO was the first meeting of the interim executive committee but many of us were locked out of it when we are elected members. 

An NRMO insider told The Monitor that President Museveni personally selected people to attend the meeting, and many interim executive committee members were bitter when they were blocked from entering at the gate. 

We are not surprised that he told his political aides that the NRMO is infiltrated, one interim executive committee member told The Monitor, if he does not want the party, why cant he resign the post of chairman? he asked. 

A sample of a T-shirts promoting a third term for Museveni is on display in Parliament. The imprint M.M.M.3 stands for Movement, Museveni and Me. They are priced at Shs25,000 each (photo by J Nsimbe) 
Another senior interim executive committee member who attended the meeting said Museveni refused discussion of party issues and instead discussed government programmes. The President said the government would construct the road to Bundibugyo, and another to Kisoro, the source said. He said the government would take electricity to West Nile and water to every major town. As you can see all these are government programmes. 

The source said many members of the interim executive committee wanted the President to discuss the program of the party, its campaign strategies, its manifesto, registration of its members, opening of branches from district up to village level and election of office holders. 

After the information we got on the Thursday meeting at State House, another NRMO member said, It is clear the President does not want the NRMO to function as an institution. 

Meanwhile, other sources told The Monitor that about five weeks ago, President Museveni called a meeting of the NRM political high command. However, when the meeting started, the President gave them a long lecture on the importance of the East African Community and later gave them publications on the subject to read. 

It was clear that the President changed the purpose of the meeting because of the composition of those who came to the meeting, the source in the political high command said. There are members in the political high command whom he does not trust. 

The source said the President seemed to have called the meeting to discuss his campaign strategy for 2006 but changed his mind because he does not trust some of the members of the

RE: ugnet_: Poll says 66% want Museveni to retire

2004-08-18 Thread Y Yaobang

Gook,
So up to 71% of Ugandans want dictator M out! No suprises there. I hope the message finally sinks into thisbald man's head!
I'm considering flying to Seattle in September to deliver the samemessage to the same.
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Poll says 66% want Museveni to retire By Bernard TabaireSpecial Projects Editor Aug 19, 2004

KAMPALA  A majority of Ugandans want the constitutional limit of two five-year presidential terms to stay, a new national poll shows.

Some 68.8 % of respondents say presidential term limits should remain, while 31.2 percent want them removed. The poll was commissioned by The Monitor. And Strategic Public Relations  Research Limited of Nairobi conducted it throughout the country from August 1-5.
The reputable research firm interviewed 1,800 people in all the regions of Uganda. The margin of error is 5 %. A campaign is underway by the ruling Movement government to amend Article 105 of the Constitution. 
The article provides that a person can be president for only two terms of five years each. However, amending that article to leave open presidential terms would mean that whoever is president could rule until he or she is defeated or dies in office.
Government critics add that the removal of term limits is meant to allow President Museveni run for another term when his current and last one, as per Article 105 today, expires in 2006.
Consequently, the poll shows, only 40.7 % trust that Museveni will respect the term limits clause and not seek another term, now commonly referred to as the third term or ekisanja. 
Some 59.3 % of the respondents think that the President will actually push for the removal or changing of Article 105. Asked whether Museveni should run for another term or retire, 66% of the respondents say the President should go home come 2006. 
Suppose the President had his way and ran for office again? Some 60.4% of the respondents say they would not support him. Most of those who do not support the President running again say it is time for a change to another leader. The rest say he should respect the Constitution, and that he is a dictator who has violated human rights.The minority who would support Museveni if he ran say they would do so because the President is a good leader, he has promoted security and improved the economy. 
A few fear that his removal would lead to war so they have no choice but to keep him in State House. At 79.4 percent, the northern region is strongest in its opposition to lifting term limits, while the corresponding figure in western is 57.9 percent.
However, asked the question: Who would you support to be President in 2006? Some 35 percent respondents said Museveni followed by Besigye at 20.8 percent. Much as he is at the top, Musevenis numbers are very low compared to the landslide figures of 1996 and 2001. 
Resolution of third term issue:
Fourty-six percent respondents would prefer Parliament to resolve the term limits issue, compared to 25.8 percent who are for the referendum. The rest would rather a combination of both Parliament and a referendum solved the matter. But in the event that there is a conflict between Parliaments views and the findings of the referendum, 53.9 percent say the national assembly should carry the day.
The Constitution actually does charge Parliament with amending Article 105. If, however, a referendum were called on the third term issue as the Movement government wants, 52.7 percent of Ugandans would participate because it is a constitutional right. 
They also say it would be a way to support their position, express themselves, defeat the Movement position, and that, in any case, it is a democratic process.
Those who would rather stay at home say a referendum on term limits was a waste of time and resources. It would not be free and fair and it is unconstitutional.
The religious community was ranked highest, at 6.12 on a scale of 10, as the institution that has handled best the debate on the third term followed closely by the Judiciary and the opposition parties. Cabinet is last at 4.54.
© 2004 The Monitor Publications

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ugnet_: Baganda bailing out

2004-08-03 Thread Y Yaobang


Prof. Mukiibi declines PSC job 

PROF. Joseph Mukiibi has turned down his appointment as a member to the Public Service Commission (PSC), writes Vision Reporter. 


President Yoweri Museveni last week nominated Mukiibi, a former National Agriculture Research Organisation chief, as one of the four members of the PSC. 


In a letter dated July 28 and copied to the public service minister, the Speaker of Parliament and the Clerk to Parliament, Mukiibi said the appointment coincided with a consultation work he had signed with some international firm. 


He said serving as a member of the PSC needs a lot of time and commitment, a task which would contradict with and jeopardise his consultation work. 


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Re: ugnet_: Govt tp pay for post primary students

2004-06-10 Thread Y Yaobang

Dear Mary Nagadya,
This is a referendum-cum-third-term budget. Please ignore the details. Gruesome. And those Western donors, those vultures!
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Subject: Re: ugnet_: Govt tp pay for post primary students 
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 17:57:35 -0700 (PDT) 

People, 

'He said the government would also provide lunch and 
porridge with milk to UPE pupils.' is laudable. 

OK, in passing it provides a big market to Ankole 
cowherders, but where will the money come from? 

What is Kenya's experience here? 

--- Owor Kipenji [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

  Govt to pay for post primary students 
  By Richard Mutumba 
  June 11, 2004 

  PARLIAMENT  The government will pay school fees for 
  students in public secondary schools whose parents 
  live in IDP camps, the Vice-President, Prof. Gilbert 
  Bukenya, announced yesterday. 
  Addressing Parliament after the presentation of the 
  budget, Bukenya said in its effort to improve life 
  in camps in the north and east, the government will 
  embark on the promotion of agriculture in the camps 
  especially cotton and upland rice. 

  "This will enable people in the camps to earn a good 
  income," Bukenya who represented President Yoweri 
  Museveni, said. Museveni is attending the G8 summit 
  in the US. 

  He said the government would also provide lunch and 
  porridge with milk to UPE pupils. He said the 
  Ministry of Education would give details of the 
  implementation of this policy. "We hope this would 
  go a long way in improving nutrition among our 
  children as well as creating a local market for 
  farmers," he added. 

  Bukenya said the way forward for peace was to 
  eliminate Kony. "With the developments in the peace 
  process in Sudan and the continued hot pursuit by 
  the UPDF, which is partly a result of better 
  equipment, Kony's chances of survival were getting 
  narrower. 

  We have kept the door open for a peaceful resolution 
  of the conflict although Kony had failed to respond 
  to holding talks," he said. He said he was happy 
  that there has been a steady increase in local 
  revenue to finance the budget. 

  © 2004 The Monitor Publications 

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RE: ugnet_: Uganda Army flees rebel attack - BBC

2004-06-09 Thread Y Yaobang

Dictator Gen. Museveni aka His Excellency the top Coward!
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Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2004 13:09:12 -0700 (PDT) 

Last Updated: Wednesday, 9 June, 2004, 15:43 GMT 16:43 UK 
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Rebels hit undefended Uganda camp 

Northern Ugandans live in constant fear of attacks 

At least 20 people have been killed in an attack by Lord's Resistance Army rebels at a displaced people's camp in the north of Uganda. 
Army troops assigned to protect the camp in Apac district were reported to have run away before the rebels launched their assault. 
The rebels then burnt almost all the huts in the camp hosting 11,000 people. 
Over a million people in northern Uganda are forced to live in camps for their own protection. 

Army arrest 
Army spokesman Lieutenant Paddy Ankunda told the BBC's Focus on Africa programme after visiting the scene of the attack that there were some 60 camps in northern Uganda and it was difficult to protect them all, but in this case there had been a problem. 

"We have arrested the army commander. He is definitely going to be charged for not protecting civilians," he said. 
He said an unknown number of civilians had also been abducted by the rebels. 
Ben Olwa, the district chairman of Apac District, told the BBC that the immediate need was to try to find shelter for the thousands of displaced people. 
"The camp was burnt down completely. There is no food, no water no shelter in that camp" 
The LRA, which has been fighting the government of President Yoweri Museveni for 18 years, is known for attacking civilians and abducting children. 
In February during a raid on another camp near the northern town of Lira more than 200 civilians were killed. 

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RE: ugnet_: Polls

2004-05-26 Thread Y Yaobang

Ed Kironde,
How many times have you voted so far?
y
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Subject: ugnet_: Polls 
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 17:06:46 -0600 

Cast Your Vote 

Political stability and human rights in Uganda will improve under the 
governance of 

Reform Agenda 
28.4% 

None 
28.1% 

NRM 
22.5% 

UPC 
21.0% 

Total Votes: 1740 
I found this poll on The Monitor and apparently those who do not think 
that NRM, RA and UPC can bring about political stability were in a photo 
finish with RA.NRM and UPC are also neck and neck. 
How about DP, one of Africas oldest political parties?How about PAFO, 
PIP, NPU and CP? 
Was the pollster against DP? 

There are known knowns - there are things that we know that we know. 
There are known unknowns - that is to say, there are things that we now 
know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns ... things we do 
not know we don't know. And each year we discover a few more of those 
unknown unknowns."Us Secretary of Defense 2001 -? 

Donald Rumsfeld 

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RE: ugnet_: AYUME: rumours he was killed by Kakooza Mutale.

2004-05-17 Thread Y Yaobang

Maybe J Ssemakula has something he wants to share with us about Ayume's demise? Tell us.
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RE: ugnet_: Re:t_: Museveni to talk to Mengo\Mukooza

2004-04-21 Thread Y Yaobang

Ssenyange,
You are right: the only way dictator Museveni can be deposed is thru military force, probably with a bullet thru is forehead! Yes! Just read the ICG detailed report, which is freely available on the internet (dont rely on the version that was edited by the Monitor). But, please, keep UPC out of this Mengo stuff!
y
From: "ssenya nyange" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Subject: ugnet_: Re:t_: Museveni to talk to Mengo\Mukooza 
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 20:25:03 -0400 

Mukooza, 

So long as UPC supporters continue their hatemonger 
against Buganda, Mu7 will rule Uganda until he's deposed by the use 
of arms or killed by bullets. Thats why he doesnt want to stop the 
war in the north so that UPC can increase its sentiments against 
Buganda- devide more, rule for ever. The result will be as you see 
on Ugandanet. Iam anti Museveni but when the Adhola, Mulindwa, 
Akanga, Kipenji etc continue the envious sentiments against Buganda, 
I would rather give Mu7 a go ahead until a more credible replacement 
( free of UPC, NRM  Ganda sentiments ) is found.I have argued UPC 
to initiate a Truth and Reconciliation commission similar to Suth 
African but they refused, saying that they have unfinished business 
to settle with Buganda. Well, Baganda say "Ekigy'omanyi 
kinyaga bitono" "Sekawuka kaali kakulumye..."" okwerinda...ssi 
butiitiizi" 

Ssenyange 

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Subject: Re: ugnet_: Museveni to talk to Mengo 
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 19:23:00 -0700 (PDT) 

Members: 

I don't believe that Museveni is going to "talk to Mengo".Ooh, 
please!How many times has he sworn to talk to Mengo??The fact 
is that he has not done so, and he says the opposite.Take a look 
into his recent Tororo speech when he blasted Mengo.Museveni 
talks his shit about talking to Mengo and the Kabaka when he is in 
Buganda.Basically to please folks! 

Zakoomu M. 

=== 

Omar Kezimbira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Museveni to talk to 
Mengo, New Vision, 21st April 2004 

By Alfred Wasike 
PRESIDENT Yoweri Museveni has said he is willing to discuss with 
the Buganda Kingdom officials at Mengo on how much powers they 
should hold on. 
I am ready to discuss with my Mengo friends to determine how much 
authority they want to hold. I have no problem with discussion but 
the power must be shared rationally, Museveni said while 
commissioning the first phase of a sh2.7b office complex at the 
Wakiso district headquarters yesterday. 

Vice-President Prof Gilbert Bukenya and Minister for the 
Presidency, Alhaj Ali Kirunda Kivejinja, were among the guests. 
But I strongly object to all power being usurped from the people 
at the villages, sub-counties and districts and going to regional 
tiers. Why should I, a mwanainchi walk from Buwekula to Mengo or 
Parliament in Kampala to have my problems solved? I have a son 
called Muhoozi. I cant usurp the authority of running his house. I 
can only advise him, he said as 
his supporters yelled,  Museveni for 3rd term, No change while 
displaying combined three-finger and thumbs-up signs. 

Museveni (right), said decentralisation had empowered Ugandans to 
determine development in their areas. He attacked exiled UPC leader 
Apolo Milton Obote for tricking the DP and other political actors 
of the 1960s and concentrating power at the centre and plunging the 
country into turbulence by abrogating the constitution in 1967. 

He was so greedy that he was even appointing gombolola chiefs. But 
when we went to the bush, we changed all that by restoring power to 
the people. But some people were against decentralisation, 
Museveni said, triggering massive cheers. 
He said the actual determinants of Ugandas destiny were ordinary 
people. 

It is wananchi who are the judges of Ugandas present and future. 
Those judges like Kanyeihamba can only judge cases of theft of 
goats. They cant manage the cases of politics. it is the voters 
who are supreme. It is not Kanyeihamba, or the MPs. It is the 
people who are the best judges because they have the power. 

So when I hear certain people saying wanainchi dont have the 
power, I really wonder what is wrong with them. Those who want to 
dilute the peoples power should just shut up. Leaders are 
servants. They cant have the same status as their bosses, the 
people they lead. That is why we went into combat, he stressed. 
He said as a result of the Movements electoral success in the 1996 
and 2001 polls, We have used that power entrusted to us to bring 
development from the centre to the people. 

In 1986, we used to collect sh5b in taxes. Now we collect sh1,600b 
and soon we shall collect sh1,800b. There are Government efforts, 
private sector-led by investors and

RE: ugnet_: Oyite-Ojoks family secrets buried here\

2004-04-18 Thread Y Yaobang

Ssenyange:
You stated:
"... the Baganda who lost the 500,000 relatives under Oyite's command. ..."This is a very serious statement and allegation. I would not be suprised if you ended up in court over this!!
y
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: RE: ugnet_: Oyite-Ojoks family secrets buried here\ 
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 19:52:10 -0400 

Owor Kipenji, 

As I mentioned in my email posting that its not good to 
celebrate someone's death but Oyite's case was different. Just as 
many celebrated the death and fall of Hitler, especially those who 
had lost their beloved ones, so didd the Baganda who lost the 
500,000 relatives under Oyite's command. 
Buy ending his life, God answered the haunting blood of the dead and 
indeed Oyite died in the sky or on the soil of Luweero.How long did 
the UPC killing continue after Oyite's death? Less that 2 years. He 
was the rise and fall of UPC in the 80's. He was tainted with blood 
of 1/2 millioninnocent citizens. If his death was seen as the road 
map to stop the massacres in Buganda, why not celebrate the road map 
victory, just because it saved another million if the UPC was to 
continue ruling for another 5 years. 

Ssenyange 

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From: Owor Kipenji [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: RE: ugnet_: Oyite-Ojoks family secrets buried here\ 
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 14:04:44 +0100 (BST) 

What Mshemiwa Ssenyange is describing is typical of the tools 
many who have be outsmarted resort to i.e wait for the course of 
nature to rescue them from their own failings. 
Death is the only democratic process that exists in Life and hence 
Nobody including the Ssenyanges and their ilk of this world will 
somehow circumvent it. 
Rejoicing at anyones' death friend or foe epitomizes the level of 
ignorance that surrounds that person. 
Mr Ssenyange,one of these days if you have time,read that 
book"Jesus 
Christus unser Schiksaal(Jesus Christ our Destiny) by Wilheim Busch 
and therein you will come of age to understand why today,unlike 
then the Jews behave collectively in grieving the death of even the 
least of their members. 
Thank you. 
Kipenji. 

gook makanga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

Ssenyange, 

The celebrations were in Nairobi? Dont you find that strange? Why 
in Nairobi when the Mood in Kla was of saddness? I was in Kla then 
and i could also show you a pic. of a crowd of Ugandans in 
mourning. 

Gook 

"Rang guthe agithi marapu!" A karamonjong word of wisdom 

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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 16:31:15 -0400 

The auther doesnt know how majority people celebrated, boosed and 
danced upon the news of Oyite's death. At that time I was in 
Nairobi and I wish I could show you some of the pictures of 
celebrants in a big public place. Its not good to celebrating 
someones death but Oyite's case was very different. It was like the 
Jews celebrating the death of Hitler. The celebration paid off 2 
years later. 

J. Ssenyange 
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Re: ugnet_: DR Batta is dead\ Lisa

2004-04-13 Thread Y Yaobang

Ssenya,
From what I hear,you are not a medical doctor. So shut the fuck up! Let's hear it from the medical doctors about the ethics of treating "rebels" and "former rebels".
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Subject: Re: ugnet_: DR Batta is dead\ Lisa 
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 18:36:34 -0400 

Lisa Toro, 

 There is no way a doctor can be forced to treat 
bush war fighters for all that long. I cant beleave that. A forced 
doctor can kill as many as he can without being detected. If Mu7 
cannot trust any doctor in Uganda at this moment, you think he could 
have trusted a "forced" Dr. Batta ( RIP) to treat them in the bush? 
The late Dr. had the will. 

Ssenya 
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May his soul rest in peace, i remember when i met him way back in 
1990, he carried his heart out about the terrible things that the 
NRM/A was doing in the North. Dr. Batta is a man who lived as a 
prisioner from the NRM abducting him and forcing him to be their 
doctor in the bush to serving them with wounded consience while his 
people are being butchered and demeaned under his nose! 

Now he has lasting peace. 

Toro 

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 The New Vision 

 Dr. Ronald Batta is dead 

 THE First National Resistance Army (NRA) now UPDF doctor, Dr. 
Ronald Batta is dead, his family said yesterday. Batta served as 
the Director of Medical Services for the NRA guerrillas and its 
infancy stages in power. He passed away at Mulago Hospital on 
Sunday after a long battle with cancer, family members said. 

 Published on: Monday, 12th April, 2004 

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RE: ugnet_: Movement in power for the next 20years - Monitor 5/4/2004

2004-04-05 Thread Y Yaobang

Ed Kironde,
The silliness continues  Do these people, including dictator Museveni,really think that Ugandans are so stupid! Anyway, the rwakitura rat-hole will soon be operational, and that's where they'll spend the "next 20 years". Yup!
y
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Subject: RE: ugnet_: Movement in power for the next 20years - Monitor 5/4/2004 
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 20:30:16 -0600 

I think Mr Moses Byaruhanga has contracted himself already: 

He said the movement system was still very strong to be challenged by 
the old or any of the newly registered political parties in the 
elections to come.NRM-O is one of the newly registered organizations. 
We have already registered our party and we shall defeat the rest in 
the 2006 polls, he boasted. 
My understanding is that the Movement system of governance is different 
from the system of political parties.By registering NRM-O, it is a 
clear departure of what Moses Byaruhanga is talking about 

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Subject: ugnet_: Movement in power for the next 20years - Monitor 
5/4/2004 

Movt in power for next 20 yrs 
By Rogers Mulindwa  
April 5, 2004 

WOBULENZI - The ruling Movement is not set to leave power in the next 
twenty years, the Presidential assistant on political affairs Mr Moses 
Byaruhanga has publicly mentioned. 
I dont see the Movement leaving power in the next 20 years, said 
Byaruhanga. He was speaking as chief guest at the swearing-in ceremony 
of Mr Tito Ddamulira Mutuluki as the new mayor for Wobulenzi town 
council, April 1. 
He said the movement system was still very strong to be challenged by 
the old or any of the newly registered political parties in the 
elections to come. 
No one can take away the power from the Movement, he said amidst 
scanty cheers. Byaruhanga told celebrants that the Movement was still 
very popular among Ugandans and called on the opposition to get ready to 
face the challenge in the next elections to come. 

We have already registered our party and we shall defeat the rest in 
the 2006 polls, he boasted. Byaruhanga said the Movement party will vet 
all its candidates in the 2006 and other elections to come in order to 
avoid any collisions among the members of the same party. 
He warned that the government had lost many seats to the opposition 
because of having more than one Movement candidates in a single race. He 
cited an example of Lubaga South constituency where he said Hon. Ken 
Lukyamuzi went to parliament with a percentage victory of only 28% in 
1996 because the Movement had many of its own candidates in the race. 

Byaruhanga made a stunning prediction that the Movement party might have 
over 50% of its candidates going through unopposed in the 2006 
Parliamentary elections. 
The new Mayor, Mr. Tito Ddamulira Mutuluki called on the losing camps to 
join him in implementing his manifesto for the remaining two years. Mr. 
Richard Mubeezi, one of the three candidates attended the function but 
Mr. Sebastian Ssebagala never showed up. 
The function was attended by Education Minister, Prof. Khidu Makubuya, 
RDC, Geoffrey Kyomukama and the CAO, Mr. Simon Mpiira Bigairwe among 
others. 

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RE: ugnet_: Re: Radio Katwe-Salim Saleh

2004-03-29 Thread Y Yaobang

Talking about Salim, what about his nephew Ruhooza, where is he now? Might he also be on the same one-way path? The last time I heard was that he had abandoned Soroti (Aloet), true?
y
From: Rehema Mukooza [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Subject: ugnet_: Re:Radio Katwe-Salim Saleh 
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 13:38:09 -0800 (PST) 

Okello: 

1st, I am not "Honey".I am a human being.Got that?? 

About this "diet pepsi" thing.I am not fat.I am a normal sized, healthy looking woman.I like to watch my sugar/carbohydrate intake.Regular sodas are loaded with too much excess, unneeded sugars.I ONLY drink diet sodas (pepsi is my favorite), water, and skimmed/fat-free milk.What more do I need than a cold diet pepsi at a celebration of a death of an enemy of freedom?? 

My refrigerator is loaded with cans and cans of diet pepsi, water, and a can of skimmed, fat-free milk.Guests (I don't care if they are Africans, Americans, or whatever) have got to adopt to what I have in my house.When one goes to Rome, he/she does what the Romans do.That applies and falls really well into my world. 

Am I diabetic?? = NO!Again, I am a person who maintains a good well balanced diet.Am I on a diet?? = NO!I do not need to be on a diet with the kind of healthy foods I eat.It is all about eating and drinking healthy.You better start to do the same.I am pro-healthy eating  living and not anti-healthy living.Let me tell you a bit of how I am living. 

I observe Kosher foods.The meats, chicken have got to have been killed in a certain, accepted way.They have got to be clean, free from bacteria.The chicken must be skinless, with no visible fat on it.The meats must have no visible fat on them either.I do not eat pork, sausage, bacon, etc (anything that comes from pigs).And I do not drink wine, beer, etc (anything that intoxicates my body).My liver is too important to intoxicate it with alcohol. I neither take drugs (anything that gets people high).My brain is too important to intoxicate it with such things.I am an ever sober person, in touch with nature. 

I use cholestoral-free, low saturated oils from plants (not animals) for cooking.Olive oil is the best.I do not use highly hydrogenated oils at all - they will clog up in your blood vessels.I do use fish oil here and there - the best healthy oil nature has ever produced.Those are just a few examples of how I live and what I eat.I am who I am.Do what I do.Do what I want.Live how I live.Enjoy what I enjoy. 

You can be a true African all you to, that will not stop me from drinking my diet pepsi and water.I drink what I want and I have no problem with it.Maybe you have a problem with what I drink, but hey that's your problem.Well, it does not bother me. 

I do not know about your wishing of the late Wapa to rest in peace.I have just finished celebrating his death.Thanks be to Allah - that one of the supporters of the enemies of my freedom is dead.Allah is powerfull. 

Zakoomu M. 

okello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Hello Honey, 

I am just wondering about this diet thing! Are you that fat? Don't get me wrong, I am a true African if you know what I mean. 

Now about the late Wapa, I will just say may his soul RIP. 

Rehema Mukooza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Godfreel?: 

If and only if that Radio Katwe could be right, I would be the first person to buy bottles of diet pepsi (I don't drink wine, beer, etc) to celebrate.I would celebrate like there is no tomorrow.I would party like its my birthday.I would praise Allah like I've never praised him before, for Saleh's death. 

By hey, then again this is Radio Katwe which is known for passing false rumors!Who believes such?? = Not I.This rumor is dismissed! 

Zakoomu M. 

"Vovi Uganda e.V." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Radio Katwe has it that Salem Saleh is out of the country, down and about to take a walk the path of Wapa. They say he might be in one of the hospitals in Germany. Keep watching the new vision newspaper website for breaking news, less some people end up buying bottles of whiscky to early. 

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Re: ugnet_: Uganda using torture to deter opposition -report

2004-03-29 Thread Y Yaobang

emmanuel musaazi,
What was the 'excellent point'? Please clarify for me.
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Subject: Re: ugnet_: Uganda using torture to deter opposition -report 
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 11:28:14 -0500 

Excellent point. 

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-report 
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 11:15:07 EST 

Uganda set up a shadow sector of security operations to contend 
with armed 
rebel groups and crime waves," Jemera Rone, a Human Rights Watch 
researcher, 
said in a statement 
HRW also said that Al Qeda terrorists should be released from 
Guantanamo,that 
Balkan rapists should not be extradited to the Hague and the 
Genocide 
perpetrators were in overcrowded jails.HRW has never seen a 
terrorist it does not 
like and whose rights are always violated.As for victims of 
terrorism well never 
mind. 

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Re: ugnet_: ATTENTION RICHARD KABONERO

2004-03-29 Thread Y Yaobang

emmanuel musaazi,
aka Kabonero cheer leader (maybe one and the same)? 
y

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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 14:00:39 -0500 

Excellently put...couldn't have said much better. 

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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 11:30:14 EST 

In a message dated 3/29/2004 11:17:24 AM SA Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 
Is the man lying? 
What some of these terrorists and their HRW sympathizers don't tell 
you is 
some of their plans that were stopped. How about trying to blow up 
fuel tanks on 
Kampala Road during Christmas season, what about efforts to blow up 
Owen 
falls and plunge the country into darkness let alone from flooding 
Jinja.What of 
the plans to assassinate govt. officials and blow up a sports 
stadium. How 
about those that seek amnesty and go back to their old ways right 
from the court 
steps?.please spare us misplaced sympathises.There is a difference 
between 
political opposition and terrorism and we know those who genuinely 
oppose govt. 
policies and those who would kill thousands without losing sleep 
over it. 

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ugnet_: Looking for Muhoozi

2004-03-29 Thread Y Yaobang

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RE: ugnet_: MUSEVENI's SS (as in Hiltler's SS) or Sadam's Republican Guards = 10,000 PGB

2004-03-24 Thread Y Yaobang

Kids,
Listen up. My sources tell me that the PGB strength is real, and that its soldiers get preferential treatment compared to the rag-tag regular UPDF. But remember what happened to Mobutu's presaidential brigade? The same fate faces the PGB! 
And, by the way talking about the PGB, where is Major Kaneirugaaba, Museveeni's son, still recovering from the wounds? He is not in Soroti anymore, I know that, or is he?
y
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Subject: ugnet_: MUSEVENI's "SS" (as in Hiltler's SS) or Sadam's "Republican Guards" = 10,000 PGB 
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 15:57:51 -0800 (PST) 

Nagadya: 

That's a very good question.The odds are there especially when we hear that State House, Entebbe needs US $77millions for renovation.The possibility of these odds are even higher when we hear that the State House is asking to have an Office of the First Lady, requesting for funds direct from the Uganda Treasury!They even raise more when we hear about the huge State House budget.These odds skyrock when we hear of 'ghosts' in the UPDF. 

Personally, I don't know if there are 'ghosts' in the Presidental Guard Brigade.We shall all find out when this information becomes available to us.10,000 guards and heavy arms for just one man!!! 

Zakoomu M. 

Mary Nagadya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
What are the odds that at least 50% of these are 
'ghost' guards? 
--- 
--- Rehema Mukooza wrote: 
  Matek: 

  Why would Museveni's brigade have 6,000 to 7,000 
  soldiers more than a normal brigade?? And why is 
  this brigade doing the army job?? It is supposed to 
  stick to protecting the president alone. 

  In case, and this is only in case, if Mu7 leaves 
  power in 2006, who is going to take care of this 
  huge brigade?? 6,000 to 7,000 soldiers will have to 
  be dessolved into the Uganda Army after this 
  dictator. My take is that he is not going to leave 
  power any time soon! His empire is crumbling and 
  that's why he needs all this extra protection. 

  You are right to compare Mu7's PGB to Hitler's SS 
  and Sadam's Republican Guards. These dictators are 
  insecure and hence a need for all these soldiers, 
  just protecting one man and maybe his family. This 
  is insane and a wastage of donor and taxpayers' 
  money! 

  Zakoomu M. 

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  Museveni has 10,000 guards 
  By David Kibirige 
  March 24, 2004 

  Gets modern weaponsENTEBBE – The presidential 
  brigade is about 10,000 men strong, military experts 
  say.This is about 7,000 to 6,000 soldiers more than 
  a normal brigade, they add.Army spokesman Maj. 
  Shaban Bantariza declined to establish the exact 
  military strength of the Presidential Guard 
  Brigade.He however, defended its size.“The number 
  has to be big because of the formation. The 
  Presidential Guard Brigade (PGB) is independent of 
  other divisions. They have their own artillery, tank 
  and armored units. So that is why the number is 
  bigger than the usual brigades,” he said.He said 
  PGB soldiers have to be at every presidential lodge 
  in the country.The Monitor has learnt that for the 
  last five years the Presidential Guard Brigade (PGB) 
  has been under going restructuring. It was upgraded 
  from a Presidential Protection Unit (PPU) to a 
  PGB.The commander of the Reserve Force Lt. Gen. 
  Salim Saleh has overseen the restructuring. Lt. Col. 
  Leo Kyanda is the PGB commandant.The headq 
  uarters 
  of the PGB will be at Entebbe. Some of its soldiers 
  will be stationed in every battalion.Highly placed 
  sources told The Monitor that the PGB has also 
  acquired sophisticated weapons. The brigade has 
  anti-aircraft guns, battle cars like mamba and 
  buffalo, tanks and Armored Personnel Carriers 
  (APCs).The commanders of the PGB mechanized unit are 
  different from those of the regular army.On the 
  sophisticated weapons, Bantariza said when at a war, 
  the PGB fights independently of the regular army.He 
  gave an example of Maj. Muhoozi Kainerugaba who at 
  one time commanded PGB troops against the rebel 
  Lord’s Resistance Army in Soroti.President 
  Museveni is currently in Lira over seeing operations 
  against LRA rebels led by Joseph Kony. The PGB 
  soldiers are helping in the fight. 

  © 2004 The Monitor Publications 

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Re: ugnet_: NaijaPolitics not wanted on UgandaNet

2004-03-23 Thread Y Yaobang

Anyomokolo,
One day, you'll find yourself disconnected, dont be suprised. There was a great debate here, yeson this Ugandanet, about me being disconnected. But sound minds,including The Monitor's Onyango-Obbo's (I dont like many of his writings), prevailed and I'm still on.
Remember that Kiggundu is a businessman, where does he get the time/money to maintain Ugandanet?
Hang in there, dear.
y
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Kiggundu Mukasa, so you are the moderator of Ugandanet. Wow! Most administrators don't like me, except that of acholinet. Do you ever read what I post on Ugandanet? If yes, what do you think about my postings? 
I would appreciate it very much if you respond. I don't want to wake up one morning and find that my membership Ugandanet has been terminated. 

Anyomokolo. 

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RE: ugnet_: Dogs Eat Barlonyo Remains- New Vision 17/3/2004

2004-03-17 Thread Y Yaobang

Dear Ugandan human beings,
Why do we Ugandanslet Museveni and his dogs do this to our fellow Ugandans?
Sick!!!
y
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Subject: ugnet_: Dogs Eat Barlonyo Remains- New Vision 17/3/2004 
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 11:12:20 -0800 (PST) 

Dogs Eat Barlonyo Remains 
SHAME: (Top) a skull and (above) a rib cage of the dead lying exposed on the ground 

By Ali Mao in Lira 

THE dead in Barlonyo are not resting in peace. Four commissioners from the Human Rights Commission last Saturday struggled to control their tears on seeing dogs eating decomposing bodies. 

The commissioners, who were on a spot assessment of internally displaced persons (IDP) camps in the north, arrived at Barlonyo in time to witness a dozen dogs feeding on rotting human limbs. 

It was a rare chance in the hot afternoon when over 10 dogs were roaming the place as they carried away bones of the victims of the February 21 LRA rebel massacre in Barlonyo in Erute in Lira. Many families fled and the dead were hurriedly buried by the army in shallow graves from where the dogs dug up the bones. 

Soon after the massacre, controversy erupted about the number of the dead. Pathologists exhumed 143 bodies in a bid to establish the exact number. 

The Pathologists later wrapped the bodies in polythene bags and placed them in army trenches to await a decent burial promised by the Government. 

When the UHRC team visited, the hungry canines took off, leaving skeletons littered all over the compound as the commissioners arrived at the scene. 

Lira deputy RDC Sylvestor Opira yesterday said the inquiry into the massacre had not been completed. 
But we have to make sure the remains are kept properly. As soon as the report is released, there will be a decent burial, he said. 

Erute north MP Charles Angiro Gutomoi said on phone that they asked the army to protect the abandoned camp but they had failed to do so. 

When we met President Yoweri Museveni at his camp in Okwang sub-county, he told us he would call the state minister for disaster preparedness over the matter, he said. 

Disaster preparedness ministers Moses Ali and Christine Amongin could not be reached for comment. 
Angiro said, The Government seems to be slow in deciding yet this is its responsibility. 

Unless something is done immediately to rebury the remains of the Barlonyo dead in deeper graves, they will find nothing because the dogs are really working on the bodies, UHRC spokesperson Justus Muhanguzi said. 

The team looked disturbed by the sight of human bones littered in the burnt-out area. 
Ends 

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RE: ugnet_: RE: Museveni Gives ...

2004-03-09 Thread Y Yaobang

Zakoomu R.,
Why dont you go suck on a lemon. 
y
From: Rehema Mukooza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: ugnet_: RE:Museveni Gives ... 
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 01:42:59 -0800 (PST) 

Yaobang: 

Whose future is Ssenyange ruinning??Buganda's??Is UPC planning on a revenge attack on Buganda in the future.UPC will never forget and so will Buganda.This is reason anough for Buganda to view UPC as an enemy and put her guards up!A future strategy is in place as we speak!Buganda shall never allow any genocide to happen on the mother soil ever again. 

Zakoomu R. 

Y Yaobang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: 

J. Ssenyange, 

From what I'm told, you are a very smart man. Why do you spew shit like this, in support of Museveni? Museveni will die, why do you want to ruin your future with such statements? We'll forgive, but we will never forget! 

y 

 From: "ssenya nyange" 

 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Subject: RE: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin 
 Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 17:15:40 -0500 

 Mulindwa, 

  Just continue giving your vote to your man OBOTE. He 
 will continue ruling you even in exile, by sustaining you with 
 frequent hand outs. FORGET ABOUT OBOTE RULING BUGANDA\ UGANDA AGAIN. 

 J. Ssenyange 

 From: "Edward Mulindwa" 
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 To: , 
 Subject: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin 
 Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 09:41:40 -0500 

 Buganda can never move ahead again until when Uganda gets a 
 nationalistic president as Obote, who develops all Uganda areas 
 equally. Does Uganda have a chance to get such a leader again 
 today? No not on a nation which has Ssebagala as the best out there 
 to look at. The developments in Buganda including Hospitals, 
 Schools, job creation on and on stopped at the exit of Obote from 
 Uganda politics. One can not help but wonder how Buganda has even 
 failed to clear her own roads of Bulungi Bwansi, a project they 
 would even do by their own hoes. What value is Mengo? 
 Em 

  - Original Message - 
  From: Lisa Toro 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 7:20 AM 
  Subject: Re: [Ugandacom] Re: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin 

  Rehema Mukooza . 

  Present me the evidence, that is howsome of you Bagandans 
 conieved with Museveni in Killing you own Kayirra in the name of 
 elections were rigged! you are so blind that you only sport a goat 
 from a far and not see an hayena at your foot !!! . The Baganda 
 peasantry should takes control and su[pport of thier Kingdom and 
 destinyrather than leaving it to some of this opportunists 
 beatting thier seasonal drums to any order of the day and claiming 
 latter they are not part of it. 

 Your are squarely responsible for impossing Museveni and the 
 NRA/M killers on Banganda and Ugandans with all the blood let, take 
 responsiblility. The sooner the kingdom and the peasantry weed out 
 these flees the sooner Buganda and Uganda will move a head. 

  Toro 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Rehema Mukooza 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 4:31 AM 
  Subject: [Ugandacom] Re: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin 

  Toro: 

  Some of you including Obote have never always meant well for 
 the future of Uganda.What is the future of Uganda??May I ask? 
 Obote has never worked for the future of democracy in Uganda.He 
 banned political parties and ridged elections.I want you to be 
 sensible enough to acknowledge that.Do not let your imagination 
 run wild! 

  Museveni and his NRA are thugs and murderers, any sensible 
 person knows that.There is nothing new you are informing me about 
 the dictator in charge today! 

  What "future holes" am I digging by speaking the truth about 
 Obote??What actually do you mean by that??Should I take the 
 "future holes" for a future revenge against Buganda and her 
 Kingdom??I personaly, think that this kind of garbage you are 
 blutting out is indeed a product of denial and lack of focus on 
 real issues. 

  If you knew better than you know now, you would find out who 
 is truelly digging the future holes you are talking about.He is 
 none other than the thug, Museveni!He has made enemies out of our 
 neighbors surrounding Uganda and in Uganda.Blame Museveni, do not 
 even start with me, or Buganda and her Kabaka. 

  Now, let me teach you about some things in history and life as 
 in general.The colonialist or imperialists came to Buganda with 
 their big guns and shit.Buganda had no choice but to work with 
 these armed imperialists because they possed a real, dangerous 
 threat to our ancenstors. 

  Survival 101; you've got to work with the enemy whether you 
 like it or not.Buganda was not ready to sacrifice itself to be 
 slaughtered

RE: ugnet_: Museveni Gives

2004-03-08 Thread Y Yaobang

J. Ssenyange,
I do respect the institution of the Kabaka of Buganda, and I do hope that one day real power is returned to it. But, dont expect to get it back from dictator Museveni.
y
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Re: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin

2004-03-07 Thread Y Yaobang

J. Ssenyange:
Dictator Museveni is a very crafty son-of-a-bitch. He invites the Kabaka to rwakitura, pays for all his expenses to come to rwakitura(central government expense), gives him the 50 cows, and then later, bang!-- he SPITS on the Kabaka: the dictator warned the Kabaka not to meddle in politics, and to leave itto "us the bakopi". Remember? He does that all the time to all the inept political opportunists who cross his path, including, unfortunately,your Mutebi II.
y
From: "ssenya nyange" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Re: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin 
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 16:54:25 -0500 

Mulindwa, 

 By simple logic, If I know that you want to come ( visit) 
to my home to beg, I WILL BE VERY STUPID TO SEND YOU LIMOS AND 
HELICOPTORS TO TRANSPORT YOU TO MY HOME AND BACK. In other words, It 
would be very stupid of Mu7 to transport Kabaka by presidential 
helicoptors to Rwakitura if the purpose of the visit is known to be 
begging. Lastly, who requests for a visit? Kabaka or Mu7? 

J. Ssenyange 
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From: "Edward Mulindwa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin 
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 20:56:00 -0500 

But why does Kabaka go to Rwakitura to beg? 

The very nonsense I do not respond to. 

Em 

The Mulindwas Communication Group 
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" 
 Groupe de communication Mulindwas 
"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" 

 - Original Message - 
 From: ssenya nyange 
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 6:52 PM 
 Subject: RE: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin 

 Yaobang, 

 How does Kabaka come into your equation? Kabaka 
does not beg 
 or request for your information. 
 Who ever wants to donate will donate freely. Who ever does not 
want to 
 donate is not requested by Kabaka to donate. However, his 
subjects and 
 officials can request for donations to help Kabaka's projects. 
His assets 
 alone generate more revenue than the president's "official" 
income. The 
 difference is that Kabaka wants to share it with his subjects 
unlike Mu7 who 
 wants to "milk" his subjects without "feeding" them.Mu7 gave 
those cows to 
 Kabaka as gifts just like any other Ugandan. Even non Ugandans ( 
e.g 
 Bazungu) have been pictured in newspapers kneeling while 
donating to Kabaka 
 ( after marrying Baganda women) as a sign of respect to the 
Institution of 
 Kabakaship. All this is done to show respect to the Instituion 
of Kabakaship 
 which is represented by Mutebi 11, ( not to Mutebi as a person). 
GET THE 
 DIFFERENCE. 

 Ssenyange 
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other bribe! 

 y 

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RE: ugnet_: Museveni Gives ...

2004-03-07 Thread Y Yaobang

ns).This murderer Museveni saw the 
civilians as people who were getting in his way, so he ordered for 
their slaughter.Up to now, Luwero people want Museveni to pay for 
their financial losses (including blood) by financially supporting 
the living since the dead are already dead.Money can not pay for 
a life, but the living have got to continue living.Living is 
supported by money, you go and figure this one out. 
 
 Ever since Buganda witnessed both Obote and Museveni's 
murderous nature, we decided to go back on survival 101; you've got 
to work with the enemy whether you like it or not!You can call 
Buganda names like Uganda sellers etc, but that does not change the 
fact that Obote murdered people. 
 
 Once again, Buganda is to play her part.Buganda can not 
avoid interacting with presidents in power.Buganda's capital is 
Uganda's capital city.How can they avoid each other??You can 
slip into fantasia but I'll not go with you.The colonialists 
could not avoid interacting with Buganda, the dictators of Uganda 
can not either. 
 
 My dear, I want to bring you back to reality. GOD WILL NOT 
STOP THEM (murderer Mu7).Let us bring back federalism in Uganda 
and empower regions to make decisions on their security matters. 
Under this unitary system, the central gov't will continue to 
declare some northern regions not disaster areas.Yet in a federal 
system, the Acholi or Lango states can declare their areas, 
disaster regions and protect themselves.Today, the Arrow/Amuka 
boys are not paid for their services and they why they lack moral. 
Under federalism, the states of Acholi and Lango can easily pay the 
Arrow/Amuka boys because these states can actually collect taxes 
and boost their security. 
 
 Lisa, come up with better cases!This business of you wishing 
on God to come down and make a miracle, yet God gave humans power 
to decide over their destiny is indeed foolish!Wake up!Support 
Federalism for All!And let me remind you that Obote killed 
federalism, we need to start from scratch now. 
 
 Zakoomu R. 
 
 Lisa Toro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: 
 Yaobang and others, 
 
 How many cows did the Misevenis and NRA take from Dr. 
Obote's home when they killed his frail father? How many did they 
takes from Obote's relatives and indeed the whole area plus 
district!. You will be more stupid to say it is 25 Cows.Infact 
they are harrassing and intimidating the Obotes brother then shout 
that they gave 25 blood cows! Those NRM vultures NEVER GET ENOUGH, 
ONLY GOD WILL STOP THEM. 
 
 Rehema Mukoozawhatever garbage you are talking about, 
some of us including Obote have always mean well for the future of 
Ugandans but your are busy digging future holes! But then again 
Ugandan sellers have always perferred to work with colonialist , 
imperialist etc etc and once more they have to keep the system 
going. 
 
 Toro 
 
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Rehema Mukooza 
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 5:50 AM 
 Subject: RE: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin 
 
 
 Yaobang, 
 
 Buying Obote for what??Obote can not function at his 
age!He is of no use to any thinking Ugandan who is looking 
forward to the future.The Kabaka will never be "bought"; he 
stays, president after president.Who ever thinks so, is indeed 
misguided and misinformed, like Obote.You can never ever buy a 
Kabaka. 
 
 Obote tried it once, when he offered money to the Ankole, 
Bunyoro, Tooro, and Busoga monarchies in order to ban them real 
good, but the Kabaka of Buganda refused and he was exiled.Obote 
even wanted to chose who among the princes should take over after 
Kabaka Muteesa was exiled.Wrong decision - Poor, stupid, Obote! 
 
 My advice to the anti-Kabaka camps is that, the monarchy 
of Buganda shall exist no matter what.The monarchy has already 
proved resilient towards blows (Obote, Amin).People, ya'll better 
use that energy of yours on something else and leave the Kabaka 
alone.The Kabaka has us regular folks to back him up no matter 
what.That is how strong an alliagence can be to our King(s), 
present and future. 
 
 Some politicians like Obote, Museveni might think that 
they are "buying" the Kabaka, but in reality they are to move out 
and our Prince (Kabaka) is to stay in.A monarchy is a monarchy, 
unlike seasonal political leadership i.e Obote, Mu7.Mr. Yaobang, 
come up with a better example of folks being 'bought' by cows or 
money.I don't know why you people don't understand that Buganda 
and her Kabakaship are inseparatable."Buying" something that will 
never go away, that has always existed is a sick example of how 
some Ugandans will never get it. 
 
 Zakoomu R. 
 
 Y Yaobang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: 
 J Ssemakula, 
 
 Unlike your Kabaka, Obote cannot be bought with 25 cows, 
or any other bribe! 
 
 y 
 
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 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
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RE: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin

2004-03-06 Thread Y Yaobang

Rehema Mukooza,
How soon you forget! Dictator Museveni gave 50 cows toKabaka Mutebi sometime ago: I believe it was just before or after the presidential elections of 2001? Was that not bribery??
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From: Rehema Mukooza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: RE: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin 
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 21:50:53 -0800 (PST) 

Yaobang, 

Buying Obote for what??Obote can not function at his age!He is of no use to any thinking Ugandan who is looking forward to the future.The Kabaka will never be "bought"; he stays, president after president.Who ever thinks so, is indeed misguided and misinformed, like Obote.You can never ever buy a Kabaka. 

Obote tried it once, when he offered money to the Ankole, Bunyoro, Tooro, and Busoga monarchies in order to ban them real good, but the Kabaka of Buganda refused and he was exiled.Obote even wanted to chose who among the princes should take over after Kabaka Muteesa was exiled.Wrong decision - Poor, stupid, Obote! 

My advice to the anti-Kabaka camps is that, the monarchy of Buganda shall exist no matter what.The monarchy has already proved resilient towards blows (Obote, Amin).People, ya'll better use that energy of yours on something else and leave the Kabaka alone.The Kabaka has us regular folks to back him up no matter what.That is how strong an alliagence can be to our King(s), present and future. 

Some politicians like Obote, Museveni might think that they are "buying" the Kabaka, but in reality they are to move out and our Prince (Kabaka) is to stay in.A monarchy is a monarchy, unlike seasonal political leadership i.e Obote, Mu7.Mr. Yaobang, come up with a better example of folks being 'bought' by cows or money.I don't know why you people don't understand that Buganda and her Kabakaship are inseparatable."Buying" something that will never go away, that has always existed is a sick example of how some Ugandans will never get it. 

Zakoomu R. 

Y Yaobang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: 

J Ssemakula, 

Unlike your Kabaka, Obote cannot be bought with 25 cows, or any other bribe! 

y 

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Subject: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin 
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 01:59:09 + 

Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin 

By Patrick Opio 

PRESIDENT Yoweri Museveni has donated 25 heifers to the family of exiled former president Milton Obotes brother, Obadiah Akaki. 

Akaki, 80, Obotes elder brother said he received the cows through state minister for wildlife and antiquities Jovino Akaki-Ayumu, his clansman. 

He said in an interview at his home at Abeibuti village, Akokoro sub-county, Apac, recently that the cattle provide him with plenty of milk. 

He said he supplies the milk to the local community for money. 

My family now harvests a good amount of milk daily. We consume part of it and sell the rest to people in the neighbourhood, he said. 

Museveni gave Akaki sh10m when he visited his home in September 9, 2000. 

He then promised to donate heifers for milk production to the family. 

Akaki said Museveni sent drugs for the animals. He said the district veterinary officers help him control vectors such as tsetse flies and ticks by reg ularly spraying and dipping the animals. 

He praised minister Akaki-Ayumu for linking him with Museveni. 

With Akakis efforts, Museveni was able to visit us and consequently donated money and cattle to the family, Obadiah said. 
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Re: ugnet_: ON OBOTE, UPC AND UGANDA

2004-02-23 Thread Y Yaobang

Mulindwa,
Reads like Mr. Ssemakula just went bananas!!!Not sure how long the recovery will be.
yFrom: "Edward Mulindwa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 20:48:46 -0500 

That is why I keep quit, for such argument is either hollow or just plain stupid. 

Em 

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 Subject: RE: ugnet_: ON OBOTE, UPC AND UGANDA 

 Mr. Oracha, 

 While it is true that Obote inherited a fairly proseprous country at independence with a good infra-structure -- by African standards; we should not forget that he proceeded to drive it into the ground, nearly on all fronts, at a fast clip. (Before you fire off one of your knee-jerk responses, bear in mind that there are historical records available of what we had at independence.) 

 Obote did not kill "Bagandans". Really? 

 What happened to the Kisubi boys? What happened at Nakulabye? What happened when he and his chum Amin, invaded our Kabakka's Lubiri at Mmengo? What happened to all those "Bagandans", and others, he picked up in daily panda gari swoops? What happened in the so-called Luweero-Trangle?, etc, etc, etc. 

 ssemakula 

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 Subject: ugnet_: ON OBOTE, UPC AND UGANDA 
 Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 12:00:45 EST 
 There are a lot of lies attributed to Dr. Obote with the intent of making him 
 hated by people. The main aim is to exclude him from the political leadership 
 in the country. Obote has not killed Bagandans but there was a clash between 
 the central government and the Kabaka in which Kabaka forcibly attempted to 
 chase away the central government from Kampala and Buganda. many people who were 
 alive then remember the blocking of roads with logs and other obstacles to 
 defeat the central government. While some would rejoice at the loss of life many 
 people of principle regret such losses. The people who died were Ugandans. 
 Obote attempted at all costs to unite the people of Uganda on the principle 
 that all were created equal. Most of his thinking are summed up in the common 
 charter which enable all Ugandans to feel part of one and fair country. Others 
 saw this as taking away their privileges and so they started labeling Dr. 
 Obote as anti Baganda. Fortunately, only a few people in Buganda have this 
 mentality. Unfortunately, they suppress the other open minded people in the region. 
 Not all Baganda share the same view or subscribe to and submit to the Kabaka. 
 This is normal in any society. So if Dr. Obote is not popular why be afraid of 
 him in an election? 
 Obote has done more for Uganda than any other leader for the short time he 
 was in power. The medical system was a wonder in many parts of Africa. The 
 education system was excellent and the infrastructure was very good. The words that 
 come out that man's mouth galvanizes and motivates people. UPC like any 
 organizations, has some undesirable elements. But that is not Obote. It takes time 
 to straighten the crooked members of any society. 
 Now whenever Museveni stands on the podium, he finds himself so bereft of 
 ideas that he thinks the problem is Dr. Obote. Obote's ghost is everywhere 
 haunting the usurpers of Ugandan's freedom. There is only one way to get rid of 
 Obote and his ghost: Speak a message of unity, bring development everywhere 
 especially the forgotten north respect human lives. You will have successfully got 
 rid of DR. Obote. 
 JOracha 

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RE: ugnet_: Empuuta

2004-02-12 Thread Y Yaobang

What is the scientific name of Uganda's "Emputa" or Nile perch?
y
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Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 20:16:37 + 

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Call to patent Nile perch fishBy Martin Luther OketchFeb 10 - 16, 2003

KAMPALA - Fish processors in East African countries have called on their governments to patent the Nile Perch.

A girl admires a Nile Perch fish. If patented, processors expect better returns and protection (File Photo).Fish processors from Uganda, Kenya and Tanzania want this fish species to be registered regionally and globally in the name of Victoria Perch. 

The proposed registration will be raised at the next East African Customs Union meeting this month.
If it is registered as native to this region under the World Trade Organisation, regional fish producers could have a trade advantage. 
Currently fish processors fear that China, Thailand and Egypt are trying to cultivate the Nile Perch.
Mr Sliver Ojaakol, a senior commercial trade officer at the ministry of Tourism, Trade and Industry, told The Monitor on February 4 that the fish processors have written to their respective ministries asking for the fish to be registered.
This is because the species have got distinctive character (taste) in nature in the whole world but it is at the verge of being encroached on by some countries (who) want to produce the same fish through scientific means, Ojaakol said.
A geographical indication indicates that a product is from a particular place and possesses particular qualities because of that.
For example, France has a geographical indication for champagne, which is produced in the part of the country of the same name.
He said the ministry of Tourism, Trade and Industry has welcomed the move by the private sector but warned that the process would be expensive. For the process to succeed, the quality and quantity needs to be harmonised across the region.
Similarly, there are proposals to patent ripe banana (ndizi) and grass hoppers (nsenene).

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ugnet_: Museveni speaks on Abia attack

2004-02-10 Thread Y Yaobang

Where " ... At least 47 civilians died ..,", dictator Museveni says "... It was not a massacre a massacre means killing defenceless people... whereas people in camps do not live very comfortably, they are still alive, their children go to school and theyget relief food and other items however modest If their conditions were unbearable, they would have got out. They are not in prison," ...".

These and other statements belowsure suck!! In civilized democracies, the president and commader-in-chief of the UPDF would have resigned. But the dictator instead calls this ".. not a massacre ...". It seems, the only massacre he will acknowledge is whenhis own family is kiiled!!


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Museveni speaks on Abia attack (The MOnitor)By Frank NyakairuFeb 9, 2004KAMPALA - Last week's attack on a camp for the internally displaced in Lirain which about 47 people died was not a massacre, President Museveni hassaid."It was not a massacre as Mr Pike put it," the President said at theweekend.He was speaking to the editors in chief of The Monitor and The New Vision,Mr Wafula Oguttu and Mr William Pike, whom he invited to State House,Nakasero, on Saturday.Mr Museveni wanted to make a clarification on the incident, which he saidwas not presented accurately by the media.At least 47 civilians died in Thursday's gruesome attack by the rebel Lord'sResistance Army on Abia internally displaced persons camp.The camp is located in Moroto County, 25km north of Lira town. On Friday,the Vision carried a report on the incident with a ba
 nner headline reading,Massacre.Museveni said a massacre means killing defenceless people. He said the Amukamilitia fought gallantly and repulsed the bandits, as he called the JosephKony-led rebels.Museveni said it was during the fighting that some innocent civilians werekilled.The President was particularly concerned that the media did not bring outthe "vital and commendable role played" by the militia in resisting therebel attack.In his statement to the two media chiefs, Museveni criticised the UPDF areacommanders for the mistakes made before and during the attack. He said theUPDF made two big mistakes.Mistake number one, he said, was for the commanders to send off the Amukamilitia on a lone mission to search for the rebels.He said all the commanders know that searching for rebels is the work of theUPDF.The militia fighters are supposed to guard the rear and the 
 roads. Mistakenumber two, he added, was that after the militia fighters sighted thebandits in Akwanga sub-county, they immediately informed the UPDF.The latter, however, did not respond as expected, the commander in chiefsaid. Instead the militia had to fight the enemy alone, he said.It was after the battle at Akwanga, he said, that the rebels moved to attackthe Abia camp.The President said that as a result of these "obvious" mistakes committed bythe UPDF, the Army Commander, Maj. Gen. Aronda Nyakairima, set up a board ofinquiry into the incident.The army commander also attended the Saturday briefing together with theMinister of State for Information, Mr Nsaba Buturo.Museveni said the offensive against the Kony fighters was going on verywell.Most of their senior commanders, he said, have been killed by the army inrecent encounters reducing their estimated force to about 400 men split ineight 
 groups.He said five groups under Kony, Otti, Abudema, Banya and Kapere are in Sudanwhile three groups under the overall command of Odhiambo are still roamingnorthern Uganda.The President said that Odhiambo is the next rebel commander UPDF is goingto kill.Asked why government was not giving sufficient relief support to the campsfor the displaced, Museveni said that whereas people in camps do not livevery comfortably, they are still alive, their children go to school and theyget relief food and other items however modest."If their conditions were unbearable, they would have got out. They are notin prison," Museveni said. On the peace initiative, the President said hehas done everything possible.Museveni said that, at the request of the Carter Centre, he even wrote apeace letter to Kony guaranteeing the safety of the rebels if theysurrendered.The letter was 
 later delivered to Kony in person at Situ in Sudan by one offormer US President Jimmy Carter's men involved in the peace negotiations.Nyakairima informed the President that the said letter was found on the bodyof rebel commander Yardin Tolbert Nyeko, who was killed on January 19, atWii-Lacic in Aruu County in Pader district.The President said LRA were not serious about the peace talks. He said thosewho wish to keep trying the peace initiative should do so as he continueshis work on the military front.[Protect your PC - Click here for McAfee.com VirusScan Online 



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RE: ugnet_: WHY DO PEOPLE SNORE?

2004-02-06 Thread Y Yaobang

Thank you, J Ssemakula. Admittedly, I snore that's why I was so interested in this article.
y
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Why do people snore?

G. AlvaradoIligan City, Philippines

Lynn A. D'Andrea, a sleep specialist at the University of Michigan Medical School, explains. 
Snoring is the sound produced by vibrating structures of the upper airway, typically during inhalation. Any membranous part of the airway lacking cartilaginous support, including the tongue, soft palate, uvula, tonsillar pillars and pharyngeal walls, can vibrate. When you sleep, muscle tone throughout your body decreases, or becomes hypotonic. This relaxation of the upper airway muscles during sleep may decrease the size of the airway space and cause airflow limitation and turbulence. It is the combination of turbulent airflow through the hypotonic airway structures that results in the harsh vibratory noise known as snoring. 
Snoring is not an illness, but it is a symptom. Just as a cough can be a symptom of pneumonia, snoring can be a symptom of obstructive sleep apnea. Obstructive sleep apnea is a disorder characterized by snoring, labored breathing and repetitive obstructed pauses or gasps in a persons breathing during sleep. The obstructed pauses result from complete obstruction or blockage of the airway and may be associated with decreases in oxygen levels. Typically, the obstruction is terminated by an arousalthat is, the snorer briefly wakes up--leading to fragmented, less restful sleep. Obstructive sleep apnea can cause excessive daytime sleepiness, decreased attention and poor concentration, and decreased energy levels. The consequences of these behavioral problems can be quite severe and include motor vehicle accidents if a sufferer becomes inattentive or falls asleep while driving. Obstructive sleep apnea is also causally related to vascular complications such as hypertension. Snor
 ing without evidence of obstructive sleep apnea may be an independent risk factor for hypertension and the daytime behavioral problems mentioned above, but how snoring alone causes problems remains unknown. 
The reported prevalence of snoring varies, and depends on the population studied and the wording of the questionnaire. Data from the Wisconsin Sleep Cohort Study found that 44 percent of all men surveyed and 28 percent of all women surveyed were habitual snorers. Overall, 4 percent of these men and 2 percent of these women had snoring that was associated with obstructive sleep apnea. Furthermore, the prevalence of snoring and obstructive sleep apnea seems to increase with age, especially after 65 years of age. Additional risk factors associated with the development of snoring include weight gain, alcohol consumption, allergies, nasal obstruction, use of muscle relaxants or sedatives, and smoking. 
Snoring remedies run the gamut from simple, noninvasive devices that open the nasal passages to more invasive surgical procedures. An external nasal dilator, the Breathe RightR brand nasal strip, enhances nasal breathing by attaching to the outside of the nose like a bandage, and gently lifting and opening the nasal passages. A common observation suggests that snoring improves if the person sleeps on his side or in a semi-upright position rather than on his back. To encourage this position, many snorers have tried solutions ranging from sewing a tennis ball to the back of pajamas to propping up on wedge-shaped pillows. Other noninvasive ways to reduce snoring include losing weight, avoiding alcohol and sedatives, and managing any allergic symptoms. Smoking may lead to airway inflammation and swelling that can further narrow the upper airway, thus smoking cessation may improve snoring. Oral appliances and nasal continuous positive airway pressure (nCPAP) devices 
 are mechanical apparatuses that act to prevent the tongue and soft palate from collapsing back into the upper airway. Finally, surgery--previously performed with a scalpel and now with a laser--removes some of the vibratory tissues from the back of the airway. Success rates for this procedure are reported to range from 50 percent to 100 percent, although it is described as quite painful. Snoring also occurs in children. Researchers have found that 20 percent of normal children snore occasionally and 7 percent to 10 percent of children snore every night. In many cases, children who snore are perfectly healthy, but about 1 percent of children who snore have obstructive sleep apnea. Children with sleep apnea may snore at night and exhibit decreased attention during the day. There is also concern that children with sleep apnea have symptoms similar to those children diagnosed with attention-deficit

RE: ugnet_: The Dark Side of the Outsourcing Revolution

2004-01-28 Thread Y Yaobang

In dictator Museveni's Uganda, the 'best' education is the military one -- how to use AK47, etc., at Kyankwazi!
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From: "Mitayo Potosi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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The Outsourcing Revolution. 

India now produces 60% more engineers and scientists than the USA. 
And what scares the shit out of the USA is that they are even 
smarter. 

Over 7 years ago we were crying here on this net, to Hon J NKuuhe 
and our very beloved Higher Education Minister, Hon Dr Abel 
Rwendeire, to change/overhaul Uganda's curricula. 

i.e. 

1. Introduce Triple Maths in all schools - including 'Discrete 
Maths'. 

2. Throw away the old crazy Biology where teaching was that "a tree 
consists of three parts: the leaves, the stem and the roots", and 
replace it with a new Biology that prepares students for the new 
world of molecular Biology. 

3. Introduce basic computer science. 

4. Get the whole country, from m7 downwards to zero in on this 
National effort. 

I sent them Canadian up-to-date syllabi for Maths, Bio, Comp Sc, 
etc to compare with. I even sent some to Teachers' college - 
Kyambogo. 

But the Church/Mosque wanted more timetable slots for religion 
instead. They made Hon Rwendeire a political liability to m7, and he 
was moved from Education to Industry. 

Now we hear Uganda is banking on sending all her children to go 
abroad to wash latrines - 'kyeyo'. 

As was mentioned then, with an exceptionally trained workforce, tons 
of jobs and billions of $ willalways flow to Uganda. It is still 
true today. 

Maybe it is time to take stock and see how we are doing!! 

Mitayo Potosi 

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The Dark Side of the Outsourcing Revolution 

By Naeem Mohaiemen, AlterNet 
January 25, 2004 

Two years ago, I lost my credit card on a trip. Dialing the American 
Express 800 number, I asked the polite customer rep to read the list 
of recent charges. As she went through each charge, I noticed 
something familiar about the way she said words like "Duane Reade" 
and "Blockbuster." 

"Excuse me," I interrupted. "Where are you?" 

"Oh, we're the American Express Call Center in Bangalore, India," 
she replied. 

Over the coming months, I started noticing this phenomenon more 
often. When I called AOL trying to cancel my account for the fifth 
time, the helpful woman giving instructions was in India. Palm 
Pilot's "Level 1" help desk seemed to be in America, but when they 
were stymied and bumped me to "Level 2," an unmistakably Indian 
voice came on. Recently, I even started getting sales calls hawking 
credit cards from India. 

A few months back, a new pattern began to emerge. Suddenly, the 
customer service reps weren't eager to divulge where they were from. 
"Oh, we're not allowed to disclose location," said one nervous 
voice. It was very cloak and dagger. Maybe it's some new security 
measure, I thought to myself. 

Then the New York Times article, titled "We're From Bangalore (But 
We're Not Allowed To Tell You)" revealed all. Indian call centers 
now had to acquire American accents and generic Anglo names, 
displaying a new-found nervousness in the face of an incipient 
backlash: Dell was closing its Indian call center in the face of 
protests; New Jersey was trying to pass a bill blocking outsourcing 
to India; and an angry Indiana politician huffed, "I represent 
Indiana, not India!" 

All Roads Lead to India 

India is at the red-hot center of the Outsourcing Revolution. Thirty 
percent of all new Information Technology (IT) work for U.S. 
companies is now done abroad, mostly in India. McKinsey Consulting 
estimated that three countries received $20 billion in outsourcing 
revenue from the U.S. in 2002: Ireland ($8.3 billion), India ($7.7 
billion) and Canada ($3.7 billion). Analysts forecast that by 2008 
Indian IT services and back-office support will grow to a $57 
billion a year industry with four million workers. 

International multinationals have had offices in India for almost a 
decade, and they include Morgan Stanley, Citigroup, Intel, IBM, 
Cisco, Motorola, HP, Oracle, Yahoo, Ernst  Young, HSBC, and, of 
course, the trailblazer in "discovering" India, Microsoft. But 
Indian offices whose main business is outsourced work from the U.S. 
are a relatively new phenomenon. Recent high profile firms include 
MphasiS, which processed tax returns of 20,000 Americans this year 
(analysts predict that 200,000 U.S. tax returns will be processed in 
India next year). Then there is OfficeTiger, which employs 1,200 
people to do research and analysis for eight Wall

RE: ugnet_: PRESIDENT MUGAABE NOT WELL

2004-01-25 Thread Y Yaobang

Em,
I wish Comrade Mugabe well. I liked what he did in DRC intervention. But I dslike what heand his hangers-on have put the Zimbabwean populace under economic and political duress. Why: he cannot even trust to gettreatment in his own country! African dictators like Mugabe and Museveni deserve no sympathy.
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Subject: ugnet_: PRESIDENT MUGAABE NOT WELL 
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 01:21:46 -0500 

President Mugabe collapsed at his house and air lifted to South African hospital 

Em 

 The Mulindwas Communication Group 
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" 
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"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" 
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Re: ugnet_: Kabaka to Meet Sudan Elders Over LRA Rebels

2004-01-25 Thread Y Yaobang

Zakoomu R.,
I like a federal Ugandan state, but please do not bore us with what we already know.Your Items 1 to 4 (below) used to exist and were practiced until mad man Lt. Gen, Museveni came to power with his "Fundamental change" bull shit. Your 5th and 6th points are interesting, but again those are details to be ironed out in a fedral arrangement. First, change the constitution back to what it was in the the 1960's when, yes, Uganda was a federal state!
yFrom: Rehema Mukooza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 16:07:37 -0800 (PST) 

Lupa-Lasaga: 

You've got a nice point here with your question:What is the best strategy for bringing about federalism in Uganda?Below are my contributions towards an answer. 

1st. getting all districts under "regions" together at the round table and discuss their union and how they are going to make things work in their union. 

2nd. getting regions (Busoga, Bunyoro, Acholi, Lango, W.Nile, Ankole, Tooro, Kigezi, etc) to form workable settings of their governing administrations (democratic  cultural) within and around. 

3rd. getting all regions together on the national table to discuss key issues of the federation.I refer you to the www.federo.com website for farther information. 

4th. Democratic mult-partism in all regional states should be formed.Political parties should form branches in every region they want political participation in.Thus, DP-Bunyoro branches, CP-Acholi branches, NRM-O Busoga branches, etc... 

5th.Political parties should contest in regional politics (democratic) and traditional / cultural posts should be left to be set through traditional customs and norms. 
The separation of democratic politics from cultural politics should emphasized even if both kinds of politics will at one point or the other get intertwined, They'll have to be separated, written in the law of the land. 

6th.Regional politics should be separated from National politics by the law of the land, even if at one point or the other they'll get intertwined, we'll have to separate them.This is the avoid what some people called Buganda politics affecting National politics.This time around things have to be separated by the law. 

Continues next timeI'm waiting for your contributions. 

Zakoomu R. 

Vukoni Lupa-Lasaga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: 
Zakoomu, 

Now, I do happen to have expressed in various fora the view that I see a 
lot of merit in federalism. So, really, you're not telling me anything new. 

The crucial question is, what is the best strategy for bringing about 
federalism in Uganda? 

vukoni 

BTW, the bad news for those who are so obsessed with limiting Buganda's 
role in Ugandan politics, federalism may not be the magic wand they 
seek. In any case, I don't see how Buganda's demographic and geographic 
preponderance in national politics will go away under federalism. For the 
foreseeable future, (whether under a federal or unitary government) the 
Baganda will remain the single most populous nationality in Uganda. That 
reality will continue to be reflected in Uganda's political and cultural life. 

And I'd really really appreciate it if you took the time to spell my name 
correctly. 

At 07:34 PM 1/24/2004 -0800, you wrote: 

 Lasanga: You wrote below, 

 "It's just that demographically and geographically Buganda looms large in 
 our politics." 

 Have you ever thought of how to put a balance to the demographic dominance 
 of Buganda in Uganda politics?? My resolution to this demographic 
 dominance is FEDERALISM to all regions of Uganda. What do you think, Lasanga?? 

 Have you ever thought of how to put a balance to the geographic dominance 
 of Buganda in Ugandan politics?? FEDERALISM is the solution. With each 
 region holding power to decide its future, geographic dominance's impact 
 will be reduced. Equal federal representation on the talking table will 
 over look geographic dominance. 

 What has caused this demographic and geographic dominance of Buganda in 
 our politics?? Unitarism is the driving force behind this 
 unfairness. Unitarism centralizes most of gov't resources towards its 
 center (Buganda). We should not blame Buganda for Uganda's bloody past, 
 we should put the blame on our gov'ts that have over and over again 
 refused a federal arrangement for Uganda. Federalism will make sure that 
 even if one region (Buganda) is wooed by false leaders like Obote and 
 Museveni, the rest of the federation (Acholi, Lango, Bunyoro, Tooro, 
 Ankole, Busoga, Kigezi, etc...) are not affected to the maximum they were 
 when these false leaders make/made their woo-wooings. 

 Zakoomu R. 

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RE: ugnet_: South Africa leading renaissance

2004-01-25 Thread Y Yaobang

Mitayo Potosi,
Mbeki's so called "African renaissance" remains to be seen. It has been almost 4 years ago since he mouthed out the concept. Is Africa any better now?
South Africa was supposed to lead the rest of sub-Saharan Africa to salvation. But underpresident Mbeki, there has been nothing but hell. In his own country, he let AIDS/HIV ravage the population, saying he neded proof about HIV causing AIDS oba something like that. What a son-of-a-bitch! In southern Africa he continues to baffle us with the Zimbabwe question: why support an almost senile dictator making his people suffer? In the rest of Africa, he does not say anything about the lack of democracy in states like Uganda, where dictator Museveni contunies to reign like Hitler.
Mbeki, like his renaissance idea, is a failure to Africa!
y
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www.sharenews.com 

OPINION 
South Africa leading renaissance 

By PETER MADAKA 

Unemployment, poverty and lack of essential government services have 
replaced the insecurity and mayhem that until very recently reigned 
in the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC). 

Not that the country itself is poor. According to a U.N. report 
regarding the conflict in the DRC, the abundance of natural 
resources has been the curse that has attracted foreign exploiters 
who in turn have funded the chaos to perpetuate the illegal 
exploitation of the country's resources. Yet, if all goes according 
to South African President Thambo Mbeki's plan, the natural 
resources of the DRC could become its blessing. 

Mbeki rode into Kinshasa last week leading a powerful delegation of 
seven Cabinet Ministers and 60 of South Africa's top private sector 
businesses in an effort to consolidate the South African-sponsored 
peace deal in the DRC with an infusion of meaningful and long-term 
economic investments. 

The visit, which comes on the heels of the African National 
Congress' launching of its own reelection bid, also carries a 
message for the rest of Africa that goes beyond the DRC. For 
President Mbeki-a firm believer in the African renaissance-the DRC 
could hold the key to Africa's social, economic and political 
rebirth. 

Mbeki believes that success in the DRC could be replicated elsewhere 
in Africa. This is a message he was eager to deliver to Congolese 
lawmakers last week. "Without peace in the DRC we cannot have an 
African renaissance," Mbeki declared. This message is important, 
accompanying a heavy purse from the leader of a government that is 
not only sponsoring the peace but the desire and enough resources to 
help the Congolese economy turn around. 

Until recently, numerous invaders crossed the nine borders of the 
DRC to exploit its resources, most notably from Rwanda, Uganda, 
Zimbabwe and South Africa. It is therefore welcome news that South 
Africa is leading a team of legitimate investors to Africa's largest 
and wealthiest country. 

While there is no doubt that the much needed South African 
commitment will bring stability across the continent and spin-offs 
from these investments could spark positive developments elsewhere 
on the continent, it may well be naïve to expect South African 
capital to behave more humanely and more sensitively to Africa's 
environmental and labour needs than their Western counterparts. 

Evidently, citizens of the DRC have been here before. They have seen 
international investors come and go, only to fatten Congo's former 
President Mobutu's personal holdings at their (the citizens') 
expense. Can citizens in the DRC expect South African capital to 
behave any differently? 

Mbeki's visit could not have come at a better time. Today, one-third 
of DRC's civil servants are unpaid. Corruption is on the rise and 
war-weary soldiers are becoming increasingly restive as poverty 
festers in the countryside. 

As things are, the Kabila government is too fragmented and shaky to 
exert respectable authority. A shrunken revenue base that is 
struggling to support much needed services further exacerbates the 
situation. But, turning to foreign investment, even if it is South 
African, has its risks. Just how responsive are South African 
entrepreneurs likely to be to the needs of the government and 
war-weary peasants of the DRC? 

Among the latest South African arrivals in Kinshasa are Mvelephande 
Holdings and Afrimineral Holdings which have already signed a 
memorandum of understanding with the DRC for investments worth an 
estimated R60 billion or the equivalent of US$8 billion over the 
next decade. Siemens South Africa has already signed a $50-million 
contract with the national electricity board of the DRC to install 
35,000 electricity connections in the country. 

Siemens, with several partners, including Eskom, is also involved in 
the rehabilitation of Inga One and Two electricity

ugnet_: Muhoozi: seriously injured or oba what?

2004-01-09 Thread Y Yaobang

Netters,

Has any one heard about Museveni's son Muhoozi's whereabouts?

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Re: ugnet_: Muhoozi: seriously injured or oba what?

2004-01-09 Thread Y Yaobang

Next ...

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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 21:01:09 EST 

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 

  Netters, 

  Has any one heard about Museveni's son Muhoozi's whereabouts? 

  y 

He is said to be "absent". nursing hisbullet riddenlimbs 
somewhere 

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ugnet_: The dictator's wife ...

2004-01-03 Thread Y Yaobang

Netters:
It is reported that "FIRST Lady Janet Museveni has announced that she will end her public work when her husband, President Yoweri Museveni leaves public office. .."
Does shehave any choice? AND if she and the dictator get out alive!
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RE: ugnet_: Let kids pursue dreams-Museveni

2003-12-13 Thread Y Yaobang

Owor,
Just remember that 
The skinny, starving children in the Museveni-made Concentration Camps in Acholi, Lango and Teso do not have the same opportunity as the fat-looking, well-fedfirst daughter Natasha Kainembabazi Karugire.

y
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Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:57:17 + (GMT) 

Let kids pursue dreams - Museveni 
By Elizabeth Kameo  Agnes Asiimwe 
Dec 14, 2003 

KAMPALA - Flair, glow, simplicity, elegance, an African touch and great entertainment made up the first daughter Natasha Kainembabazi Karugire's first ever show of her fashion and design creations. 
Officiating at the show, at Speke Resort Munyonyo, President Yoweri Museveni said as a child, Natasha loved art and drawing. 

"I encouraged her to do what she wanted. Never coach children into this or that line, in a line of development don't make children do what they don't want to do," he urged. 
Ms Natasha Museveni Karugire gets the microphone from her father, President Yoweri Museveni, after his speech at the inaugural show of the House of Kaine fashion design house at Speke Resort Munyonyo on Friday. Ms Karugire is the proprietor and designer (Photo by Ismail Kezaala). 
"These young people are going to move this country, they have new ideas, unlike the old ones whose fire has died out, they are like fire these movement children, babuguma," Museveni said. He said he encourages such children with a solution for a societal need, adding he is happy and ready to encourage Natasha. 
Natasha is the proprietor of House of Kaine fashion house and was showcasing her designs for the first time since she set up shop. 

On his daughter's collection, he said Natasha had told him that House of Kaine's intention was to make clothes for the African woman, "The African woman has a shape, you know that shape, was not catered for in modern dress. Asian women have their own shape, so do European woman. That is why I encouraged her (Natasha) to cater for the African woman," said Museveni. 

He commended the sponsors; Kampala Casino, MTN, Sudhir and Joystna Ruparelia who he said also benefit from supporting local talent. 

"In sponsoring shows like this, you are also advertising yourselves, which is very good," Museveni said. 

An emotional Natasha, in her speech, thanked her father; husband Edwin Karugire and family whose support she said made it possible for her to achieve success. 

Natasha's collection was made up of five categories: celestial - an Ente (cow) inspired category, Savannah, Black, Yellow, red and the nostalgic woman. Her clothes had themes of beads, feathers and embroidery to add an African touch to her designs. 

Natasha's creations are sold in the US market. The show was attended by among others; the Nabagereka of Buganda Sylvia Nagginda, Toro Princess Elizabeth Bagaya, ministers and ambassadors. International guests included musician Cornell Stone, guest Model Misha'el Adonijah Rick and Diva Entertainment president, Leisa Butler. 

The first lady Janet Museveni, Natasha's sisters and brother did not however attend the show. 

Natasha will donate part of the proceeds from the show to TASO, an HIV/Aids charity organisation. 

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Re: ugnet_: Let kids pursue dreams-Museveni

2003-12-13 Thread Y Yaobang

Mulindwa,
For president? I guess we'll have to wait till the fat lady sings.
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A Uganda president in waiting? 

Em 
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 Owor, 

 Just remember that  

 The skinny, starving children in the Museveni-made Concentration Camps in Acholi, Lango and Teso do not have the same opportunity as the fat-looking, well-fed first daughter Natasha Kainembabazi Karugire. 

 y 

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 Subject: ugnet_: Let kids pursue dreams-Museveni 
 Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:57:17 + (GMT) 

 Let kids pursue dreams - Museveni 
 By Elizabeth Kameo  Agnes Asiimwe 
 Dec 14, 2003 

 KAMPALA - Flair, glow, simplicity, elegance, an African touch and great entertainment made up the first daughter Natasha Kainembabazi Karugire's first ever show of her fashion and design creations. 
 Officiating at the show, at Speke Resort Munyonyo, President Yoweri Museveni said as a child, Natasha loved art and drawing. 

 "I encouraged her to do what she wanted. Never coach children into this or that line, in a line of development don't make children do what they don't want to do," he urged. 
 Ms Natasha Museveni Karugire gets the microphone from her father, President Yoweri Museveni, after his speech at the inaugural show of the House of Kaine fashion design house at Speke Resort Munyonyo on Friday. Ms Karugire is the proprietor and designer (Photo by Ismail Kezaala). 
 "These young people are going to move this country, they have new ideas, unlike the old ones whose fire has died out, they are like fire these movement children, babuguma," Museveni said. He said he encourages such children with a solution for a societal need, adding he is happy and ready to encourage Natasha. 
 Natasha is the proprietor of House of Kaine fashion house and was showcasing her designs for the first time since she set up shop. 

 On his daughter's collection, he said Natasha had told him that House of Kaine's intention was to make clothes for the African woman, "The African woman has a shape, you know that shape, was not catered for in modern dress. Asian women have their own shape, so do European woman. That is why I encouraged her (Natasha) to cater for the African woman," said Museveni. 

 He commended the sponsors; Kampala Casino, MTN, Sudhir and Joystna Ruparelia who he said also benefit from supporting local talent. 

 "In sponsoring shows like this, you are also advertising yourselves, which is very good," Museveni said. 

 An emotional Natasha, in her speech, thanked her father; husband Edwin Karugire and family whose support she said made it possible for her to achieve success. 

 Natasha's collection was made up of five categories: celestial - an Ente (cow) inspired category, Savannah, Black, Yellow, red and the nostalgic woman. Her clothes had themes of beads, feathers and embroidery to add an African touch to her designs. 

 Natasha's creations are sold in the US market. The show was attended by among others; the Nabagereka of Buganda Sylvia Nagginda, Toro Princess Elizabeth Bagaya, ministers and ambassadors. International guests included musician Cornell Stone, guest Model Misha'el Adonijah Rick and Diva Entertainment president, Leisa Butler. 

 The first lady Janet Museveni, Natasha's sisters and brother did not however attend the show. 

 Natasha will donate part of the proceeds from the show to TASO, an HIV/Aids charity organisation. 

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RE: ugnet_: UN names forces in struggle for Congogold fields

2003-12-04 Thread Y Yaobang

Museveni is a jigger in the Great Lakes region:"... Receipts obtained by the panel suggest that one of the militias is directly funded by the office of President Museveni. The president's press secretary did not respond to an email setting out the claim. ..."

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Subject: ugnet_: UN names forces in struggle for Congogold fields 
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 00:33:21 + (GMT) 

UN names forces in struggle for Congo gold fields 

Secret report on militias' backers could embarrass Britain 

David Pallister 
Thursday December 4, 2003 
The Guardian 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/congo/story/0,12292,1099459,00.html 

A confidential United Nations report has accused Rwanda, Uganda and elements within the new transitional government in Congo of continuing to arm militias in the country to keep control of the rich diamond and gold fields. 

The document, part of a longer report on the exploitation of the Democratic Republic of Congo's mineral resources published in October, was sent privately to the security council because of its "highly sensitive" information. 

If the allegations are true they will sorely test the 10,000-strong UN military mission trying to bring order to the country. Last week, in his latest assessment of the mission's task, Kofi Annan, the UN secretary general, spoke of a "vicious circle of lawlessness" and "massive violations" of human rights continuing unabated. 

The report is also likely to embarrass the British government, the biggest bilateral aid donor to both Uganda and Rwanda. The former international development minister, Clare Short, was a defender of Rwanda's President Paul Kagame, despite criticism that UK aid was fuelling Rwanda's intervention in Congo. 

One of the most explosive allegations is that the veteran opposition politician Etienne Tshisekedi, who returned to the DRC in September after two years in exile in South Africa, is preparing a rebellion, with the support and advice of Rwanda, in the central province of Kasai Oriental. 

Mr Tshisekedi's party, the Union for Democracy and Social Progress (UDPS), refused to join the transitional government in June after he was denied one of the four vice-presidencies. A month later, the report says, his 3,000-strong militia was supplied with weapons shipped from an unnamed sub-Saharan country through Rwanda and a group of 42 UDPS militiamen was sent to the same country for military training. 

Some observers believe the report's allegations against Mr Tshisekedi may have been overtaken by events. After being excluded from the new government he allied himself with the Rwandan-backed rebel group Rally for Congolese Democracy (RCD) and denounced the president, Joseph Kabila, as a new dictator. But he recently told a South African newspaper that he was preparing for the elections expected within two years with "love and fraternity". 

The machinations of the Rwandan military "are considered to be the most serious threat" to the government in Kinshasa, the report says. It alleges that Rwandan officers are providing training and arms for two other militia groups in the east, including the Congolese National Army (ANC), the military wing of the former rebel faction RCD-Goma, whose leader is now one of four vice-presidents in the government. Documents obtained by the panel of experts who produced the report show arms shipments to this militia up to August this year, in direct contravention of the July UN arms embargo on the eastern part of the country. 

The report says that evidence from internal documents shows that money for the arms is raised through the sale of minerals owned by the Congo Holding Development Company, a mining and trading firm based in Goma, near the Rwandan border. The company was set up by Gertrude Kitembo, a senior member of RCD-Goma and now minister of telecommunications. In its previous report last year, the panel recommended financial sanctions against the company. 

The other Rwandan-armed group, the Union of Congolese Patriots (UPC), with 10,000 regulars in the north-east area of Ituri, is under direct control of the Rwandan army's high command, the report says. Rwanda formally withdrew its troops from Congo last year. 

Uganda, whose troops were pulled out in May, is accused of protecting its commercial interests through three proxy militias operating in the prosperous Ituri district. 

In July a plane was intercepted at Beni airport, close to the Ugandan border, containing ammunition destined, according to militia passengers, for Commandant Jerome Kakawavu Bakonde, the leader of one of the factions, known as FAPC. The report says that the arms were to help FAPC to force Ashanti Goldfields, which controls the Mongbwala goldfield, to work with Ugandan officials, such as the chief of military intelligence, rather than authorities in Kinshasa. 

Receipts obtained by the panel suggest that one

RE: ugnet_: Re: [UNAANET] The Presidential tour of Uganda!

2003-12-02 Thread Y Yaobang

Abayombo,
While at it, why dont you promote thenext one, again staringdictator Museveni "The Presidential Tour II", this time with the dictator making a night tour of dormitories in the Concentration Camps in the north and east with adult married couples having sex under dormitory conditions whentheir mothers, fathersand children are watching. No commercial$.
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  Do you, Ms. Ambassador, have any backup plans to say 
  have VHS or DVD tapes made of the show which can be 
  sold for a profit? 

  Market forces working here. Take advantage of them. 

  Jonathan, 

We believe that as soon as the initial screening is over tonight we shall be 
able to get copies of the tourand have them available for those who want 
this wonderful depiction of the country.The other advantage is that the few 
copies we got have no commercials which are bound to be many tonight. 
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Re: ugnet_: REMINDER:DISCOVERY CHANNEL SCREENING OF UGANDA 9.00PM

2003-12-02 Thread Y Yaobang

Abayombo,
I just did not want to see the bald-headed asshole by accident!
I await for the "presidential tour II: the concentration camps in the north and east". 
y
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  Abayombo, 
 Thank you for the warning. I'll make sure I dont see it. What 'presidential 
  tour' 

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RE: ugnet_: REMINDER:DISCOVERY CHANNEL SCREENING OF UGANDA 9.00PM

2003-12-01 Thread Y Yaobang


Abayombo,
Thank you for the warning. I'll make sure I dont see it. What 'presidential tour' nonsense!

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This is to remind everyone that the discovery channel will screen "Uganda The 
Presidential Tour" on Discovery travel channel tomorrow Tuesday DEC 2nd at 
9.00pm.EST.The time for the screening in Europe will be announced later. 
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Re: ugnet_: Why all the fuss about ebimansulo?

2003-11-28 Thread Y Yaobang

Owor Kipenji,
Dictator Museveni: give Ugandans a break - an avenue to let off some steam! I dont see anything wrong with watching raw pussy dispay in an adult pub. If dictator Museveni does not like it, piss on him. Even dictator Amin (RIP) did not ban it! 
This is too much!
y
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Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:32:51 + (GMT) 

Why all the fuss about ebimansulo? 
By Sheila C. Kulubya 
Nov 29 - Dec 5, 2003 

Ebimansulo! That's what I have heard all week. It's now the talk of the town. 
The other day, some Muslim leaders implored the president to intervene and ban bimansulo because they allegedly corrupt people's morals. 

Morals, my foot! It is amazing that people have blown such a nifty issue completely out of proportion. 

And yet some of the people who are screaming murder should not be raising the moral flag at all. 

What's the greater evil - some starry eyed adults watching an explicit strip tease show, or people who shroud polygamy in a religious cloak? 

This issue of ebimansulo should be critically examined. On one side you have the strip teasers, who do what they do to put food on their table and on the other, you have the consumers, who creep out of their homes in the middle of the night to ogle at naked flesh. 

Anyone with some basic knowledge of economics will tell you that there is no supply without demand, and vice versa. Similarly, if there were no people willing to part with their cash, chances are, there would be no strip teasers. 
Sex is reputed to be the world's oldest profession mostly because it appeals to our baser primitive instinct. 

That's why it's not uncommon to hear of priests having affairs with nuns or fellow priests; or prisoners in Luzira who sodomise fellow prisoners. 

Sociologists tell us that the whole process of courtship is nothing but an excuse for men and women to legitimately have sex. 

As a student of history, I know for a fact that it's sex that launched the Trojan war, one of the greatest battles in the history of ancient Greece. 

It's sex that forced a British heir to abdicate his throne in order to marry the woman of his dreams. It's because of the frolics of King Solomon and the Queen of Sheba that we have Jews whose skins are as shockingly black as you and me. The list goes on and on. 

History is littered with sex, sex and more sex. In a way, MUK law don Sylvia Tamale, is right. Men and women should be educated about sex right from a tender age so that they are better prepared for the pitfalls that come with the trade. 

Perhaps if all of us had had this knowledge right from childhood, we would have used our sexuality differently. 

The alternative is to legalise the sex trade and establish gazetted areas. 
Look at the Netherlands. Its red light district is one of the biggest tourist attractions, raking in billions of dollars each year. 

So, rather than carting the strip teasers to jail, I suggest the police should turn its guns on the consumers. Without them, there would be no such shows. 

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Re: ugnet_: Re: [FedsNet] Fredom is not absolute even in America-Opondo

2003-11-26 Thread Y Yaobang


J Ssemakula,
I dont have to "convince" you (or your other felllow Baganda of the same ilk)about the sufferring in the north, common! You read it everyday even in the Museveni government mouthpiece - the newvision.
For starters, we now have a second muganda VP under dictator Museveni. What has he said about the northern war? Give me aqoute of what sychophant muganda Bukenya has said so far about the suffering in the north. ZIP!
By the way, the "suffering" that happened to the Banganda in Luwero was due to Museveni, who overthrew a legitimately elected government. Was Museveni in Luwero to play soccer? He killed by night and came back to mourn in the morning. How come he knew where the skulls were? Now dictator Musevenic is applying the same tactics in northern Uganda - for the last 17 years!
We will never forget! 
y

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Mr. Yaobang,
It may surprise you to learnthat we, the Baganda,recallrecall our suffering and misery in the 1980s at the hands of that ogre of Ugandapolitics, Obote. A lot of Kiganda blood was spilled in the battle to free Uganda of Obote and his goons. That experience sensitized us to war and its consquencies. 
However people with short memories like you cannot seem to be able to remember, it is these very same Baganda who you and your ilk are fond of disparaging at every opportunity, who incessantly call for an end for an end to this unfortunate war in Northern Uganda. In fact that was gist of my article in the Monitor refuting the writings of of another fellow with your same mindset. I have never been able to understand the insanity of attacking the very people who support you or your position like you people habitually do.
I challenge you list what other ethnic group in Uganda, outside of those being victimized, has shown so much concern about this war publicly.
But let me save you from embarassment by noting that Mu7 is impermeable to persuasion and is totally indefferent to public opinion that is contrary to his self interests. Several cases in point: e.g. land bill that was popularly opposed in all corners of the country, the referendum, etc etc.
If you spent more of your time in analytical pursuits on the situation rather than just sounding off, you might actually convince more people to your viewpoint. After all, 'you catch more flies with honey than vinegar' ...
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J Ssemakula:
Why dont you blame Museveni on Luwero? Your postings are sobiased!
Also, you state "... Fortunately, this time around, there is much more wider knowledge of the tragedy in in Northern Uganda, only the international community does not seem to be terribly interested in our misery...". BUT are the Ugandan Southerners (you and your fellow Baganda, for example) and westerners anymore interested in the suffering of their countrymen in the north and north-east? No, they are not. If they were, there would not be such a tragedy and genocide anymore. Just look: what proportion of southerners/westerners are in real power now in Uganda, and thus able to influence events in the country? 
Anyway, like someone one wrote yesterday in a Ugandan daily, in Uganda what goes around will definitely come around! 
y
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Mw. Oryema,
We used this very poem during the time when Obote's goons were decimating us in the infamous "Luweero Triangle" in the early 1980s. I thnk it was around the time this monster swore that he would turn the entire District of West Nile into a National Park!
Funny how some things never change! 
But who could have imagined that Africans are so very much more cruel than colonialists that we used rile against!!! Man's inhumanity to Man seems to be epitomized amongst Africans.Fortunately, this time around, there is much more wider knowledge of the tragedy in in Northern Uganda, only the international community does not seem to be terribly interested in our misery.
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RE: ugnet_: A PRIORITY ONE POSTING (Please foward ASAP)

2003-11-25 Thread Y Yaobang

Ed Kironde,
What's the latest --has Major Kainerugaba Muhoozi kicked the bucket?
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Sneaker net or what? I think this has been refuted and celebrations 
should only continue at your peril. 

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An amendment in this posting: 

The sentence "Reliable sources are informing The Communication Group 
that President Yoweri Museveni's son, Major Kainerugaba Muhoozi was shot 
in an ambush in Soroti towards the end of the week." Should have read 
"Reliable sources are informing The Communication Group that President 
Yoweri Museveni's son, Major Kainerugaba Muhoozi was shot in an ambush 
in Soroti." 

Please amend accordingly. 

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Reliable sources are informing The Communication Group that President 
Yoweri Museveni's son, Major Kainerugaba Muhoozi was shot in an ambush 
in Soroti towards the end of the week. The source continue to state that 
President Museveni has been of late shuttling between Soroti Gulu and 
Kibaale, in his fights of ever continuing wars in Uganda. Major Muhoozi 
Kainerugaba was in a convoy with Lieutenant General Tinyefunza and Major 
General Salim Saleh who is President Museveni's brother. 

In the process of attacking this convoy, Major Kainerugaba, got the most 
injuries. 

The sources are informing The Mulindwas Communication group that due to 
the seriousness of the injuries, Major Muhoozi Kainerugaba was 
immediately whisked to a Germany hospital, where he is today fighting 
for his life. The source as well indicate that the life of the 
President's son is still classified as in danger, the source continue 
that if Major Muhoozi kainerugaba survives, he may never serve in Uganda 
People's Defence Force due to the injuries, sustained. 

We are following the reports. 

Edward Mulindwa 
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Re: ugnet_: A PRIORITY ONE POSTING (Please foward ASAP)

2003-11-25 Thread Y Yaobang

Is he dead??
y
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Netters 

Reliable sources are informing The Communication Group that President Yoweri Museveni's son, Major Kainerugaba Muhoozi was shot in an ambush in Soroti towards the end of the week. The source continue to state that President Museveni has been of late shuttling between Soroti Gulu and Kibaale, in his fights of ever continuing wars in Uganda. Major Muhoozi Kainerugaba was in a convoy with Lieutenant General Tinyefunza and Major General Salim Saleh who is President Museveni's brother. 

In the process of attacking this convoy, Major Kainerugaba, got the most injuries. 

The sources are informing The Mulindwas Communication group that due to the seriousness of the injuries, Major Muhoozi Kainerugaba was immediately whisked to a Germany hospital, where he is today fighting for his life. The source as well indicate that the life of the President's son is still classified as in danger, the source continue that if Major Muhoozi kainerugaba survives, he may never serve in Uganda People's Defence Force due to the injuries, sustained. 

We are following the reports. 

Edward Mulindwa 
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Re: ugnet_: Apt lesson for our tyrants

2003-11-25 Thread Y Yaobang


Sounds like dictator Musevenic of Uganda to me!
y
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Eduard just may be an example of a person being promoted beyond his competence.
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Editorial 

Wednesday, November 26, 2003 
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Apt lesson for our tyrantsWhen he was President Mikhail Gorbachev's Foreign Minister - just before the Soviet Union broke up into tens of independent republics - Eduard Shevardnadze was among the world's most respected statesmen. 
But, apparently, power corrupts. During the 12 years that he has served as president of Georgia, he has come to epitomise political corruption and misrule. 
History will not condemn him as harshly as it has done his fellow Georgian, Josef Djugashvilli Stalin, under whose tyranny millions of dissidents were murdered. 
Mr Shevardnadze is accused merely of massive rigging of the presidential election machine so as to perpetuate himself in power over deepening corruption and a slumping economy. 
This would, nevertheless, have been a mortal sin if committed by the very man whose vow has always been complete de-Stalinisation and thorough political and economic liberalisation of the Georgian Republic. 
He precipitated the crisis, not only by the rigging but, more immediately, by denying it, refusing to order an investigation and - in a manner uncharacteristic of the self-effacing Shevardnadze the world used to know - thumping his chest with the declaration that he would never step down. 
It was only after it became apparent that many of his security forces were moving over to the opposition that he saw the need to quit. This was, indeed, the saving grace, a reminder of the old Shevadrnadze. 
Mr Shevardnadze admitted that, after this security split, any attempt to assume military power would have resulted in a bloodbath. Many a tyrant would have ignored this terrible possibility, dug in his heel, and landed his country in a holocaust. 
He nearly did it. And it is an excellent lesson to Africa's many tyrants who choose to continue with the bootblack long after their power base has been destroyed beyond repair. 
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Re: ugnet_: Apt lesson for our tyrants (like Musevenic!)

2003-11-25 Thread Y Yaobang


Ugandans, why are you notrising up now against dictator Musevenic? It's your turn, the Georgians did it
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Wednesday, November 26, 2003 
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Apt lesson for our tyrantsWhen he was President Mikhail Gorbachev's Foreign Minister - just before the Soviet Union broke up into tens of independent republics - Eduard Shevardnadze was among the world's most respected statesmen. 
But, apparently, power corrupts. During the 12 years that he has served as president of Georgia, he has come to epitomise political corruption and misrule. 
History will not condemn him as harshly as it has done his fellow Georgian, Josef Djugashvilli Stalin, under whose tyranny millions of dissidents were murdered. 
Mr Shevardnadze is accused merely of massive rigging of the presidential election machine so as to perpetuate himself in power over deepening corruption and a slumping economy. 
This would, nevertheless, have been a mortal sin if committed by the very man whose vow has always been complete de-Stalinisation and thorough political and economic liberalisation of the Georgian Republic. 
He precipitated the crisis, not only by the rigging but, more immediately, by denying it, refusing to order an investigation and - in a manner uncharacteristic of the self-effacing Shevardnadze the world used to know - thumping his chest with the declaration that he would never step down. 
It was only after it became apparent that many of his security forces were moving over to the opposition that he saw the need to quit. This was, indeed, the saving grace, a reminder of the old Shevadrnadze. 
Mr Shevardnadze admitted that, after this security split, any attempt to assume military power would have resulted in a bloodbath. Many a tyrant would have ignored this terrible possibility, dug in his heel, and landed his country in a holocaust. 
He nearly did it. And it is an excellent lesson to Africa's many tyrants who choose to continue with the bootblack long after their power base has been destroyed beyond repair. 
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Re: ugnet_: Re: [FedsNet] Fredom is not absolute even in America-Opondo

2003-11-25 Thread Y Yaobang

J Ssemakula:
Why dont you blame Museveni on Luwero? Your postings are sobiased!
Also, you state "... Fortunately, this time around, there is much more wider knowledge of the tragedy in in Northern Uganda, only the international community does not seem to be terribly interested in our misery...". BUT are the Ugandan Southerners (you and your fellow Baganda, for example) and westerners anymore interested in the suffering of their countrymen in the north and north-east? No, they are not. If they were, there would not be such a tragedy and genocide anymore. Just look: what proportion of southerners/westerners are in real power now in Uganda, and thus able to influence events in the country? 
Anyway, like someone one wrote yesterday in a Ugandan daily, in Uganda what goes around will definitely come around! 
y
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Mw. Oryema,
We used this very poem during the time when Obote's goons were decimating us in the infamous "Luweero Triangle" in the early 1980s. I thnk it was around the time this monster swore that he would turn the entire District of West Nile into a National Park!
Funny how some things never change! 
But who could have imagined that Africans are so very much more cruel than colonialists that we used rile against!!! Man's inhumanity to Man seems to be epitomized amongst Africans.Fortunately, this time around, there is much more wider knowledge of the tragedy in in Northern Uganda, only the international community does not seem to be terribly interested in our misery.
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We used this very poem during the time when Obote's goons were decimating us in the infamous "Luweero Triangle" in the early 1980s. I thnk it was around the time this monster swore that he would turn the entire District of West Nile into a National Park!
Funny how some things never change! 
But who could have imagined that Africans are so very much more cruel than colonialists that we used rile against!!! Man's inhumanity to Man seems to be epitomized amongst Africans.Fortunately, this time around, there is much more wider knowledge of the tragedy in in Northern Uganda, only the international community does not seem to be terribly interested in our misery.
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ugnet_: Museveni next to resign!

2003-11-23 Thread Y Yaobang


Georgian President Eduard Shevardnadze resigns amid massive protests over disputed election results. 
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Re: ugnet_: UGANDA CONFLICT WORSE THAN IRAQ

2003-11-10 Thread Y Yaobang







Thanks to the bald-headed one ...








The Humanitarian situation in northern Uganda is worse than in Iraq, or anywhere else in the world, a senior United Nations official has said. 






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Re: ugnet_: Museveni in America

2003-11-06 Thread Y Yaobang

musaazi,
This is a good cut/paste job. So, who wrote the piece that you pasted here under your e-mail id. You were even too embarrassed enough not to sign it like you normally do! What a fake and an empty head you are!
y
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Mr. Semekula, if you recall, i ended my last dialogue with you, thus 
"you can lead a horse to water but you can't force it to drink the 
water", this is the problem with Uganda and Ugandans, we also 
attempt to eat our cake and have it at the same time. Development 
starts from the bottom. Your arguments are insignificant because you 
are failing to apreciate where President Museveni found the country 
and where we are now. I think it is erronous of you to argue that 
primary education is not important to the overall development of 
Uganda, because that is the starting point of the overall education 
of a human being. If a person has primary education, then that 
increases the chances of that person getting a higher education. 
Primary education also prepares some people for technical education. 

It is had been documented that primary school enrollement has 
trippled since President Museveni took office. I don't subscribe to 
the thinking of those who say that majority of the students don't 
complete prmary education, because enrollements in tertiary 
institutions have balooned in recent years. Right now in Uganda a 
first degree is becoming like a high school diploma. Poeple don't 
recognize your educational achievements until you obtain a masters 
or over. Now to me that is progress. At present there is an 
achievement crisis because graduating students (particularly from 
Universities) need jobs and jobs aren't readily available. This is 
why President Museveni has been talking so much about the need to 
diversify Uganda's economy, 1) because the work force is available 
(create jobs) 2) increase Uganda's tax base thereby reducing 
relayance on foreingn donors, 3) leading to overall economic 
development. Mr Semakula, do you think those "Agoa girls" would be 
employable if they didn't have at least a primary education? Who do 
you think is going to be manning the small/medium sized factories 
that investors will setup? villagers without any education? I think 
Uganda under President Museveni, is come now man. I know you don't 
like President Museveni but at least give praise where praise is 
due. All that President Museveni has done for Uganda may not be 
appreciated now but some time in the future it will, i asure that. 

I don't understand the argument you are making about Uganda's trade 
deficit with America vs COMESA. To me a deficit is a deficit 
irrespective of where it comes from and it is not good. However 
Uganda can not afford to strangle herself because she is trying to 
avoid deficits. Unless your argument is that Uganda should have more 
trade with America than COMESA. Trade Mr. Semekalu is not 
exclusively government based, Uganda is a democratic, capitalist 
society, Ugandans are choosing to buy more from COMESA, probably 
because of proximity and cost, that's my guess. But when it comes to 
more sophisticated merchandise America is chosen. Deficits must be 
brought down, but i must stress that such an effort can not be an 
exclusively government one. Besides most countries have some deficit 
o another, it is a tight rope walk to have a good trade balance. 
Even the almight America can't quite get it right.We must also 
realise that, the whole bussiness of trade and economic growth is 
not exclusively a government responsibility. Ugandans must be made 
to realise that they are in competion with the whole world even in 
their own countries, as globalization becomes more perversive. Let 
me give you an example to illustrate what i'm talking about: 

"According to statistics from the academy, there are at least 2.5 
million college students, more than 60 percent of whom are studying 
science and technology. These well-educated youths are expected to 
enter the country's labor market incrementally in the coming years. 
Meanwhile the average labor costs of industries in China are only 5 
percent of those in developed countries like the United States, 
Japan and Germany, said the statistics."No other country can provide 
such a huge number of cheap educated laborers," noted Lu. Such a 
"comparative advantage" will last at least two decades and 
contribute to the country's further economic growth, according to 
Lu." 

The above are some statics from China. Therefore there is no room 
for complecency, all hands must be on deck in order for Uganda get 
where it should be with respect to economic development. You see how 
our President has to go out to virtually beg for investments and 
markets for Uganda, therefore when the opportunities come Ugandans 
ought to take advantage. It should also be

Re: ugnet_: Museveni in America

2003-11-05 Thread Y Yaobang

musaazi,
There is nothing new in what dictator Museveni is spewing; this nothing new to most of the world. Anyhow, it is good news that he seems to belearning something -- the bald headed one has come a long way since his banana barter trade policy with Cuba!
y
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UGANDA: President pleads with developed nations to end protectionism 
KAMPALA, 4 Nov 2003 (IRIN) - Ugandas president, Yoweri Museveni, on 
Monday made 
an impassioned plea to governments in the developed world to end 
protectionist trade policies which prevent poor countries from 
competing effectively in the global marketplace. 

He was speaking at the 53rd plenary meeting of the 58th session of 
the United Nations General Assembly in New York, as part of a 
five-day official working visit aimed at promoting business and 
tourism opportunities for Uganda. 

A presidential press release quoted Museveni as saying that 
desperate poverty and aid dependence would continue in Africa as 
long as the United States, European Union and Japan continue 
practising protectionism by closing their markets to products from 
Africa. 

He mentioned punitively high tariffs as one feature of world trade 
that would need to be fixed if developing countries are to have any 
chance of lifting themselves out of poverty. 

President Museveni criticised efforts made so far to develop African 
economies through exporting cash crops and other raw materials. 

There is no way an economy can develop that is solely dependent on 
agricultural and mineral exports in their raw form, he said, The 
real solution to Africas persistent poverty lies in the 
diversification of the economies of the developing countries of 
Africa. 

He gave the example of coffee and noted that the total coffee 
business in the world stood at US $71billion, but only US $500 
million went to producing countries. 

Last September, World Trade Organisation (WTO) talks in the Mexican 
resort town of Cancun collapsed after the developing countries 
walked out. They complained that the United States, Japan and the EU 
were being insincere and one-sided in their efforts to open up 
markets. 

They said trade tariffs on finished products from the developing 
world were too high. They also complained that massive agricultural 
subsidies from the US and EU governments gave big agri-businesses in 
the developed world an unfair advantage over third world farmers. 

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Re: ugnet_: International image of LRA

2003-11-03 Thread Y Yaobang

emmanuel musaazi,
Matek is right!
You, musaazi,must be a party to the massacres,or are a mere simpleton,because your postings are so insane! You may be using a pseudo-name, but theInternet isnot that private.Matek has commented on this matter earlier, but I'll also repeat. Have you heard of any Bahima, or nyarwandwa's killed in Tesoduringthe so-called "Kony" atttacks? Or any Bahima or nyarwanda cattle stolen in Teso during the so-called "Karimojong" raids, yet these Bahima or nyarwandas now have the most cattle (andmobile phones)per capita in Teso. They'll continue to prosper till the next election (2006), or when theheat gets too hot,and they'll disappear? What kind of "good neighbors" are these nyarwandas?
y
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Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 18:04:04 -0500 

Matek you are not only stupid, but your TRIBAL BIGOTRY IS NOW 
REARING IT'S UGLY HEAD. SO IN YOUR MIND IF KONY KILLS 50 PEOPLE IN 
ACHOLI LAND YOU EXPECT THE PAPERS TO SAY; "30 ACHOLIS, 15 BAHIMAS 
AND 5 BAGANDA WERE KILLED TODAY IN GULU" OR IF THERE IS AN INCIDENT 
IN KAMPALA WITH LOSE OF LIFE YOU EXPECT THE PAPERS TO SAY "5 
BANYANKOLE, 20 BAGANDA AND 5 ACHOLIS, 8 BAKIGA AND A MUYARWANDA" 
DIED. FOR YOUR INFORMATION MATEK THE BAHIIMA IN TESO ARE ALSO 
UGANDANS AND WHEN PEOPL ARE KILLED BY LRA IN TESO, GULU OR 
LIRA..GUESS WHAT THEY ARE UGANDANS AND COULD COME FROM ANYWHERE IN 
UGANDA. NOT ALL UGANDANS ARE AS TRIBALY DEMENTED AS YOU. BESIDES 
UGANDANS ARE FREE TO LEAVE ANYWHERE IN UGANDA THEY SO WISH. I HOPE 
YOU ARE AWARE THAT THERE ARE ACHOLI PEOPLE LIVING AND RESIDING IN 
BUGANDA AND ANKOLEYOU NEED TO EDUCATE YOURSELF MORE ABOUT THE 
COUNTRY YOU ARE PLANING TO "LEAD" MATEK. 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 15:24:50 EST 

Hey dude! 

 It is considered bad manners to use upper case letters to 
communicate ... 
you need netiquette. 

That stated, can you explain to the people of Uganda, as to why 
KONY has 
never attacked the Bahimas who are now settled in TesoLand 
Many of whom are 
cattle herdsman? Are the Bahimas in Tesoland somehow for one 
reason or 
another not vunerable to KONY's REBEL attacks? 

Yup I get it... fellow citizens KONY has an affinity ONLY for the 
Iteso and 
Acholi Peasants Blood. When it come to Bahima Blood, KONY thinks 
it is too 
Pure that it cannot be spilled. 

I do not know about your thinking capabilities ... but the fact 
that Kony 
does NOT attack Yoweri Museveni's Tribesmen in Teso land.. 
Pretty much tells 
you or should tell you who is killing our people in the name of 
KONY! 

Matek 

In a message dated 11/3/2003 1:33:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 

  Netters, this is to once more reveal the lies spread by people 
like MATEK 
  AND THE UPC about LRA. The crimes of Kony and LRA are of 
international 
  dimensions. The whole world is aware of Kony and LRA and there 
atrocities 
  including their terror status except MATEK AND UPC. THESE ARE 
THE POEPLE 
  WANTING TO RULE UGANDA IN THE NAME OF "DEMOCRACY", "FREEDOM" AND 
"PEACE". IT 

  IS SAID THAT A WORD IS ENOUGH FOR THE WISE...READ ON AND LOG ON 
TO THE SITE 
  FOR MORE DETAILS. 

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Re: ugnet_: RE: Ugandan Music in the Diaspora

2003-11-01 Thread Y Yaobang

J Ssemakula,
Now that was not funny. 
y
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In response to my posting on the subject, someone asked for the availability of the song "Akalulu ka Obote Yekka" or something like that. I replied that I had the song for $100 a pop.

I am now happy to report that if you do not want to pay me, you may download it free of charge, but you have to listen to it first. 

Turn the volume on your speakers all the way up your and click on on:

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Re: ugnet_: Fwd: Ugandan music in the diaspora

2003-10-30 Thread Y Yaobang

J Ssemakula,
At least you have a good sense of humor. I like that!
Cheers,
y
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J Ssemakula,
Might you happen to have, or know where I coudl get,a copy of the old song "Akalulu ka Obote yekka" (pardon the Luganda)? I'd greatly appreciate the source.
Thank you.
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