[users] Re: [ANN] This list is migrating to ooo-us...@incubator.apache.org

2011-09-10 Thread openoffice . mbourne
Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 5:20 PM,openoffice.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote: Rob Weir wrote: On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 7:16 AM,openoffice.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote: snip To be honest, I don't see why Apache can't continue using the existing infrastructure on openoffice.org?

[users] Re: [ANN] This list is migrating to ooo-us...@incubator.apache.org

2011-09-10 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi, Answers in line. On Sep 9, 2011, at 2:20 PM, openoffice.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote: Rob Weir wrote: On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 7:16 AM,openoffice.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote: snip To be honest, I don't see why Apache can't continue using the existing infrastructure on

[users] Re: [ANN] This list is migrating to ooo-us...@incubator.apache.org

2011-09-09 Thread openoffice . mbourne
Larry Gusaas wrote: On 2011-09-04 11:04 PM Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: For reasons that I cannot explain, some messages were delayed in going to the e-mail. I received this one and a couple of others two days later than I saw them on the archive of the list. This happens. It was apparently a

[users] Re: [ANN] This list is migrating to ooo-us...@incubator.apache.org

2011-09-09 Thread openoffice . mbourne
Rob Weir wrote: On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 7:16 AM,openoffice.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote: snip To be honest, I don't see why Apache can't continue using the existing infrastructure on openoffice.org? incubator.apache.org sounds, to me, like something which is in the early stages of development

[users] Re: [ANN] This list is migrating to ooo-us...@incubator.apache.org

2011-09-09 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 5:20 PM, openoffice.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote: Rob Weir wrote: On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 7:16 AM,openoffice.mbou...@spamgourmet.com  wrote: snip To be honest, I don't see why Apache can't continue using the existing infrastructure on openoffice.org?

[users] Re: [ANN] This list is migrating to ooo-us...@incubator.apache.org

2011-09-05 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Thanks Larry, that's very interesting. I see the X-Sympa-To header. What is quirky about that for me is I swear I *saw* them in the list archive before September 4. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Larry Gusaas [mailto:larry.gus...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 22:36

[users] Re: [ANN] This list is migrating to ooo-us...@incubator.apache.org

2011-09-04 Thread openoffice . mbourne
NoOp - gl...@sbcglobal.net wrote: On 09/02/2011 05:49 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 8:34 PM, Larry Gusaaslarry.gus...@gmail.com wrote: On 2011-09-02 6:16 PM NoOp wrote: I wonder if the OP (Rob Weir) will reply to my questions, or if he simply intends to be a 'hit run' poster

[users] Re: [ANN] This list is migrating to ooo-us...@incubator.apache.org

2011-09-04 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 7:16 AM, openoffice.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote: snip To be honest, I don't see why Apache can't continue using the existing infrastructure on openoffice.org? incubator.apache.org sounds, to me, like something which is in the early stages of development - which OOo

[users] Re: [ANN] This list is migrating to ooo-us...@incubator.apache.org

2011-09-04 Thread Keith N. McKenna
NoOp wrote: On 09/02/2011 12:59 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: On 2011-09-02 1:00 PM NoOp wrote: Is that list setup for gmane.org? Not yet. I asked on gmane.comp.apache.incubator.ooo.devel . During the discussion with Rob Weir he asked if it was possible for me to request Gmane including the list.

[users] Re: [ANN] This list is migrating to ooo-us...@incubator.apache.org

2011-09-04 Thread David H. Lipman
From: Rob Weir r...@robweir.com Please note that, as part of the overall migration to Apache, this list will be closed. Based on feedback received, including from participants on this list, we've decided to create a users list at the Apache OpenOffice.org project to serve as a continuation

[users] Re: [ANN] This list is migrating to ooo-us...@incubator.apache.org

2011-09-04 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011-09-02 5:18 PM Keith N. McKenna wrote: A pointer to where in the gmane structure the new list will be would be greatly appreciated. I dislike mailing lists with a purple passion an much prefer following this through the nntp interface. I expect it will be

[users] Re: [ANN] This list is migrating to ooo-us...@incubator.apache.org

2011-09-04 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
For reasons that I cannot explain, some messages were delayed in going to the e-mail. I received this one and a couple of others two days later than I saw them on the archive of the list. This happens. It was apparently a routing or email-queue kick-off quirk where these messages arrive so

[users] Re: [ANN] This list is migrating to ooo-us...@incubator.apache.org

2011-09-04 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011-09-04 11:04 PM Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: For reasons that I cannot explain, some messages were delayed in going to the e-mail. I received this one and a couple of others two days later than I saw them on the archive of the list. This happens. It was apparently a routing or

[users] Re: [ANN] This list is migrating to ooo-us...@incubator.apache.org

2011-09-03 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011-09-02 8:02 PM NoOp wrote: On 09/02/2011 06:52 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 9:25 PM, NoOpgl...@sbcglobal.net wrote: snipsnipsnip Actually /you/ *need* to post information in *this* list so that the users of this list aren't left in the dark. You can't just 'hit run'

[users] Re: [ANN] This list is migrating to ooo-us...@incubator.apache.org

2011-09-03 Thread Richard Detwiler
major snip But my benefit and any other less well informed readers, what does ANN refer to? And how does that relate to OOo? (I'm sure it does, I just don't know how.) -- - To unsubscribe send email to

[users] Re: [ANN] This list is migrating to ooo-us...@incubator.apache.org

2011-09-03 Thread Richard Detwiler
Sorry for the typo, I meant to say: FOR (not but) my benefit and any other less well informed readers, what does ANN refer to? And how does that relate to OOo? (I'm sure it does, I just don't know how.) On 9/3/2011 12:38 PM, Richard Detwiler wrote: major snip But my benefit and any other

[users] Re: [ANN] This list is migrating to ooo-us...@incubator.apache.org

2011-09-03 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011-09-03 10:40 AM Richard Detwiler wrote: FOR (not but) my benefit and any other less well informed readers, what does ANN refer to? And how does that relate to OOo? (I'm sure it does, I just don't know how.) [ANN] indicates that the post is an announcement. Oracle transferred ownership

[users] Re: [ANN] This list is migrating to ooo-us...@incubator.apache.org

2011-09-03 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
[ANN] is an abbreviation of ANNouncement and has been used on newsgroups and mailing lists for many years. (It is not specific to OOo in any way.) Evidently, the convention is not so widely known as the poster thought. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Richard Detwiler

[users] Re: [ANN] This list is migrating to ooo-us...@incubator.apache.org

2011-09-02 Thread NoOp
On 09/02/2011 10:03 AM, Rob Weir wrote: Please note that, as part of the overall migration to Apache, this list will be closed. Based on feedback received, including from participants on this list, we've decided to create a users list at the Apache OpenOffice.org project to serve as a

[users] Re: [ANN] This list is migrating to ooo-us...@incubator.apache.org

2011-09-02 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011-09-02 1:00 PM NoOp wrote: Is that list setup for gmane.org? Not yet. I asked on gmane.comp.apache.incubator.ooo.devel . During the discussion with Rob Weir he asked if it was possible for me to request Gmane including the list. I deferred since there hadn't been a discussion on how it

[users] Re: [ANN] This list is migrating to ooo-us...@incubator.apache.org

2011-09-02 Thread NoOp
On 09/02/2011 12:59 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: On 2011-09-02 1:00 PM NoOp wrote: Is that list setup for gmane.org? Not yet. I asked on gmane.comp.apache.incubator.ooo.devel . During the discussion with Rob Weir he asked if it was possible for me to request Gmane including the list. I

[users] Re: [ANN] This list is migrating to ooo-us...@incubator.apache.org

2011-09-02 Thread dennis.hamilton
The ooo-us...@openoffice.org was just activated yesterday. We need to add it to a number of places where we enumerate the available lists. -- - To unsubscribe send email to users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands

[users] Re: [ANN] This list is migrating to ooo-us...@incubator.apache.org

2011-09-02 Thread dennis.hamilton
Oops, sorry. I meant ooo-us...@incubator.apache.org in the text above. (You'll see that we say things like ooo-users@i.a.o a great deal when giving list names on the Apache lists.) -- - To unsubscribe send email to

[users] Re: [ANN] This list is migrating to ooo-us...@incubator.apache.org

2011-09-02 Thread dennis.hamilton
It would be better if you had one of the Apache PPMC do it (i.e., any of the committers). While CTR (commit then review) is the lazy consensus deal, that suggestion was a bit off-hand, since it is a committer guideline, not general permission to the world. What you can do on the list is suggest

[users] Re: [ANN] This list is migrating to ooo-us...@incubator.apache.org

2011-09-02 Thread dennis.hamilton
[To the list this time] It would be better to have someone from the PPMC (i.e., one of the committers do it), so we learn how and also are identified as someone who is accountable to the project if any kind of registration is required. The CTR (Commit Then Review) is a practice that works where

[users] Re: [ANN] This list is migrating to ooo-us...@incubator.apache.org

2011-09-02 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011-09-02 3:14 PM wrote: It would be better if you had one of the Apache PPMC do it (i.e., any of the committers). While CTR (commit then review) is the lazy consensus deal, that suggestion was a bit off-hand, since it is a committer guideline, not general permission to the world. I

[users] Re: [ANN] This list is migrating to ooo-us...@incubator.apache.org

2011-09-02 Thread NoOp
On 09/02/2011 02:24 PM, dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: [To the list this time] It would be better to have someone from the PPMC (i.e., one of the committers do it), so we learn how and also are identified as someone who is accountable to the project if any kind of registration is required.

[users] Re: [ANN] This list is migrating to ooo-us...@incubator.apache.org

2011-09-02 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
A post by Larry Gusaas. He has already replied to one or another of the posts that had this text. I was using the archive browser form and must have screwed up the reply somehow. (I also posted the same message essentially twice because I didn't think I'd sent the first to the list. Sorry,

[users] Re: [ANN] This list is migrating to ooo-us...@incubator.apache.org

2011-09-02 Thread NoOp
On 09/02/2011 02:39 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: On 2011-09-02 3:14 PM wrote: It would be better if you had one of the Apache PPMC do it (i.e., any of the committers). While CTR (commit then review) is the lazy consensus deal, that suggestion was a bit off-hand, since it is a committer

[users] Re: [ANN] This list is migrating to ooo-us...@incubator.apache.org

2011-09-02 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Sorry about the confusion. It was just advice. No need to change what you are doing. When the time is up and you do it yourself, please report to ooo-dev that you have done so along with any additional information you think we might need about it. - Dennis -Original Message- From:

[users] Re: [ANN] This list is migrating to ooo-us...@incubator.apache.org

2011-09-02 Thread NoOp
On 09/02/2011 03:31 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: A post by Larry Gusaas. He has already replied to one or another of the posts that had this text. No such thread on this list. Perhaps you are referring to the ooo-dev thread: [ANN] This list is migrating to ooo-us...@incubator.apache.org

[users] Re: [ANN] This list is migrating to ooo-us...@incubator.apache.org

2011-09-02 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011-09-02 4:33 PM NoOp wrote: Oh... you guys must be referring to this thread over on the ooo-dev list: Subject: [ANN] This list is migrating to ooo-us...@incubator.apache.org :-) Actually, according to the in reply to header, Dennis is replying to the post I made in reply to you before

[users] Re: [ANN] This list is migrating to ooo-us...@incubator.apache.org

2011-09-02 Thread NoOp
On 09/02/2011 03:33 PM, NoOp wrote: On 09/02/2011 02:39 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: On 2011-09-02 3:14 PM wrote: It would be better if you had one of the Apache PPMC do it (i.e., any of the committers). While CTR (commit then review) is the lazy consensus deal, that suggestion was a bit

[users] Re: [ANN] This list is migrating to ooo-us...@incubator.apache.org

2011-09-02 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Noop, Sorry, the reply form on the archive does not setup a quotation that can be used, or else I missed it. I don't even think I can see the message being replied to once I am using the form. Of course, the archive shows indented threading, except where the message you questioned went

[users] Re: [ANN] This list is migrating to ooo-us...@incubator.apache.org

2011-09-02 Thread NoOp
On 09/02/2011 01:27 PM, NoOp wrote: On 09/02/2011 12:59 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: On 2011-09-02 1:00 PM NoOp wrote: Is that list setup for gmane.org? Not yet. I asked on gmane.comp.apache.incubator.ooo.devel . During the discussion with Rob Weir he asked if it was possible for me to request

[users] Re: [ANN] This list is migrating to ooo-us...@incubator.apache.org

2011-09-02 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011-09-02 6:16 PM NoOp wrote: I wonder if the OP (Rob Weir) will reply to my questions, or if he simply intends to be a 'hit run' poster (cross-poster) to this list... After all, posting such an annoucement on this list (and cross-posting t-...@incubator.apache.org

[users] Re: [ANN] This list is migrating to ooo-us...@incubator.apache.org

2011-09-02 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 8:34 PM, Larry Gusaas larry.gus...@gmail.com wrote: On 2011-09-02 6:16 PM  NoOp wrote: I wonder if the OP (Rob Weir) will reply to my questions, or if he simply intends to be a 'hit  run' poster (cross-poster) to this list... After all, posting such an annoucement on

[users] Re: [ANN] This list is migrating to ooo-us...@incubator.apache.org

2011-09-02 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011-09-02 6:49 PM Rob Weir wrote: Larry, if you wanted to be useful you might have mentioned to NoOpthat we have been discussing enabling Gmane for ooo-users.incubator.apache.org on the ooo-dev list, and that you yourself have volunteered to set that up in a few days. If you had read this

[users] Re: [ANN] This list is migrating to ooo-us...@incubator.apache.org

2011-09-02 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 9:04 PM, Larry Gusaas larry.gus...@gmail.com wrote: On 2011-09-02 6:49 PM  Rob Weir wrote: Larry, if you wanted to be useful you might have mentioned to NoOpthat we have been discussing enabling Gmane for ooo-users.incubator.apache.org on the ooo-dev list, and that you

[users] Re: [ANN] This list is migrating to ooo-us...@incubator.apache.org

2011-09-02 Thread NoOp
On 09/02/2011 05:49 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 8:34 PM, Larry Gusaas larry.gus...@gmail.com wrote: On 2011-09-02 6:16 PM NoOp wrote: I wonder if the OP (Rob Weir) will reply to my questions, or if he simply intends to be a 'hit run' poster (cross-poster) to this list...

[users] Re: [ANN] This list is migrating to ooo-us...@incubator.apache.org

2011-09-02 Thread NoOp
On 09/02/2011 06:19 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 9:04 PM, Larry Gusaas larry.gus...@gmail.com wrote: On 2011-09-02 6:49 PM Rob Weir wrote: Larry, if you wanted to be useful you might have mentioned to NoOpthat we have been discussing enabling Gmane for

[users] Re: [ANN] This list is migrating to ooo-us...@incubator.apache.org

2011-09-02 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 9:25 PM, NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net wrote: snipsnipsnip Actually /you/ *need* to post information in *this* list so that the users of this list aren't left in the dark. You can't just 'hit run' on this list and close it down without *first* giving the users of *this*

[users] Re: [ANN] This list is migrating to ooo-us...@incubator.apache.org

2011-09-02 Thread NoOp
On 09/02/2011 06:52 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 9:25 PM, NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net wrote: snipsnipsnip Actually /you/ *need* to post information in *this* list so that the users of this list aren't left in the dark. You can't just 'hit run' on this list and close it down