Re: [users] Probably another stupid calc question

2008-06-10 Thread mike scott
On 7 Jun 2008 at 17:52, Richard Detwiler wrote: mike scott wrote: ... try filling a1:a10 with a 1. Then somewhere put a cell with counta(a1:a10) and another with sum(a1:a10). Now try (1) clearing, say, a5, and (2) putting an unquoted space in a5. Now suppose someone is doing some

Re: [users] Probably another stupid calc question

2008-06-10 Thread Harold Fuchs
2008/6/6 Jerry Feldman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If I have a column of numbers, say A1 to A200 and a =SUM(A1:A200) Now, I replicate A200 down to A300. Is there any good technique I can set up the sum so that it will reflect this change without manually having to change is to =SUM(A1:A300). The

[users] docx

2008-06-10 Thread Tony Venn
I work on  MAC with OSX, and I have a full commercial working version of the Office programs. People keep sending CVs and documents to me in DOCX format - how do i open or convert these into normal word documents? --Tony Venn | Account ManagerCreative Marketing Communications+44 (0)1202 304455 |

[users] Downloading Open Office

2008-06-10 Thread Bill Gill
Am running a OS 10.4.11on a Power PC Mac using Firefox. Keep getting the message attached. What do I do please/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[users] database

2008-06-10 Thread Alessandro Sambo
gentili signori, da utente assolutamente sprovveduto sto cercando di organizzare una serie di documenti di testo e album di foto in un database. In pratica, il risultato che vorrei ottenere è una tabella contenete pochi elementi identificativi ed un collegamento con i files che mi interessano. (

[users] Installering

2008-06-10 Thread Tor Digernes
Jeg har installert Open office etter at jeg fikk problemer med med microsoft 2000 program. Jeg installerte Open office, men for å få nok diskplass måtte jeg avinstallere microsoft 2000. Når jeg etter installasjonen av Open office skulle bruke snarveien microsoft word og microsoft excel,

[users] Question?

2008-06-10 Thread Merry Widow
I just ordered the CD and downloaded the program but can't get it to open to the word processor Would someone please tell me how to get this program to open. I want it to open when I click on the icon on my desk top. I can't figure out how to do this. There are so many things to click on

[users] Email Client

2008-06-10 Thread Dennis Lyon
Hello, I love using Open Office and am very, very thankful for its creation. What I would like to know is if there are any plans to create an email client similar to Outlook? The functionality of Outlook is unsurpassed by any free email client I've ever tried, but it is getting expensive

Re: [users] [moderated]

2008-06-10 Thread Miep Visser
Yep, this one seems to work, EXCEPT for the speak sheets. On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Miep Visser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! Thanks for this new link. I managed to acually download this one - the other one did not work. I had to indicate the type op OS I had, which did not include

[users] [moderated]

2008-06-10 Thread LARRY SANDY PHIPPS
    I downloaded your openoffice program and cannot open any of it.  It takes me to a folder that has numerous folders and none of them do what it shows that they should do.  Help!  Sandy Phipps  WITH GOD BEHIND YOU HIS ARMS BENEATH YOU, YOU CAN FACE WHATEVER IS BEFORE YOU.

[users] How to type chinese in openoffice

2008-06-10 Thread chongcmatches
Dear help desk please let me know how i can type chinese characters in open office. thanks

[users] Re: http://www.saveXP.org/ [WAS: Wrong OS or OS Version]

2008-06-10 Thread Michelle Konzack
Oops Am 2008-06-06 13:27:03, schrieb Michelle Konzack: Maybe you should go to http://www.savexp.org/ and sign the petition? Sorry, it seems the domain was hijacked by a Domain-Trader... Try Google and search for save XP petition Thanks, Greetings and nice Day Michelle Konzack

Re: [users] database

2008-06-10 Thread M. Fioretti
On Sun, June 8, 2008 12:18 pm, Alessandro Sambo wrote: gentili signori, da utente assolutamente sprovveduto sto cercando di organizzare una serie di documenti di testo e album di foto in un database. Alessandro, personalmente non so aiutarti, mi dispiace. Comunque l'indirizzo

Re: [users] Email Client

2008-06-10 Thread James Knott
Dennis Lyon wrote: Hello, I love using Open Office and am very, very thankful for its creation. What I would like to know is if there are any plans to create an email client similar to Outlook? The functionality of Outlook is unsurpassed by any free email client I've ever tried, but it is

Re: [users] docx

2008-06-10 Thread Wade Smart
Tony Venn wrote: I work on MAC with OSX, and I have a full commercial working version of the Office programs. People keep sending CVs and documents to me in DOCX format - how do i open or convert these into normal word documents? Tony Venn | Account Manager 20080610 0620 GMT-6 You cant

Re: [users] [moderated]

2008-06-10 Thread James Knott
LARRY SANDY PHIPPS wrote: I downloaded your openoffice program and cannot open any of it. It takes me to a folder that has numerous folders and none of them do what it shows that they should do. Help! Sandy Phipps I assume you're running Windows. After you double click on the

Re: [users] Question?

2008-06-10 Thread James Knott
Merry Widow wrote: I just ordered the CD and downloaded the program but can't get it to open to the word processor Would someone please tell me how to get this program to open. I want it to open when I click on the icon on my desk top. I can't figure out how to do this. There are so many

Re: [users] docx

2008-06-10 Thread ccornell - OpenOffice.org
Wade Smart wrote: Tony Venn wrote: I work on MAC with OSX, and I have a full commercial working version of the Office programs. People keep sending CVs and documents to me in DOCX format - how do i open or convert these into normal word documents? When you say full commercial working

Re: [users] docx

2008-06-10 Thread James Knott
Tony Venn wrote: I work on MAC with OSX, and I have a full commercial working version of the Office programs. People keep sending CVs and documents to me in DOCX format - how do i open or convert these into normal word documents? At the moment you can't. Ask the applicants to send in ODF

[users] Re: docx

2008-06-10 Thread Gordon
documents? Tony Venn | Account Manager 20080610 0620 GMT-6 You cant. Actually, you can. There are several versions of Open Office available that will open the new Office 2007 documents - one being OxygenOffice, available here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ooop and in addition, the new Beta 3

[users] Re: docx

2008-06-10 Thread Gordon
James Knott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tony Venn wrote: I work on MAC with OSX, and I have a full commercial working version of the Office programs. People keep sending CVs and documents to me in DOCX format - how do i open or convert these into normal word

[users] Re: Email Client

2008-06-10 Thread Gordon
Dennis Lyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, I love using Open Office and am very, very thankful for its creation. What I would like to know is if there are any plans to create an email client similar to Outlook? The functionality of Outlook is unsurpassed by

Re: [users] http://www.saveXP.org/ [WAS: Wrong OS or OS Version]

2008-06-10 Thread Dotan Cohen
2008/6/6 Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Am 2008-06-04 12:56:39, schrieb John Boyle: To James Knott: You have just proven my point, as you are very knowledgeable with both programs. Again, however, a relative newbie, like me, does NOT have the patience nor the skills to bother with Vista

Re: [users] http://www.saveXP.org/ [WAS: Wrong OS or OS Version]

2008-06-10 Thread ccornell - OpenOffice.org
Serious question: what is so good about Windows XP that it is worth petitioning for? I have used Windows XP in the past, and found it a very frustrating and insecure operating system. What features does Windows XP have that users feel are missing from other OS's? This is not a troll, but a

Re: [users] http://www.saveXP.org/ [WAS: Wrong OS or OS Version]

2008-06-10 Thread Dotan Cohen
2008/6/10 ccornell - OpenOffice.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Serious question: what is so good about Windows XP that it is worth petitioning for? I have used Windows XP in the past, and found it a very frustrating and insecure operating system. What features does Windows XP have that users feel

Re: [users] http://www.saveXP.org/ [WAS: Wrong OS or OS Version]

2008-06-10 Thread ccornell - OpenOffice.org
I see. This is how I summerize: 1) Dissatisfaction with the successor of XP 2) Unfamiliarity with anything else 3) Inability of legacy programs to run on other OSes (including the successor to XP) I understand then that there is no 'killer feature' in Windows XP that people need other than

Re: [users] Help please with scalc / data sort

2008-06-10 Thread lists . oo-users
Hallo Brian, Op maandag 09 juni 2008 schreef Brian Barker aan users@openoffice.org: These data are constantly changing, so this procedure would become rather annoying quite quickly. But I'll certainly keep this hint in mind in case I need it some time. BB I realised after I sent my last

Re: [users] Installering

2008-06-10 Thread M Henri Day
2008/6/9 Tor Digernes [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Jeg har installert Open office etter at jeg fikk problemer med med microsoft 2000 program. Jeg installerte Open office, men for å få nok diskplass måtte jeg avinstallere microsoft 2000. Når jeg etter installasjonen av Open office skulle bruke

[users] Good tutorial on macros (either OO.o or the other one).

2008-06-10 Thread Jerry Feldman
I might have a few macros to write, and I was wondering if there is a good online tutorial. I was able to find a few decent references to a few things I wanted to do, but not things like ActiveCell, Selection. In m context all macros would need to be used in both OO.o and Excel context. I did find

Re: [users] New proof: Office 14 slated for 2009

2008-06-10 Thread M Henri Day
2008/6/10 Fred A. Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I wonder what compatibility issues we'll have with this release. Or should I say, how will MickySoft screw the OSS community this time? Fred New proof: Office 14 slated for 2009 Mary Jo Foley: Even though Microsoft has yet to release a public

[users] Downloading OOo and can't get it to install

2008-06-10 Thread Jack D. Lewis
We are constantly seeing this question repeated on this list. Most of them are phrased similar to this: *I downloaded your openoffice program and cannot open any of it. It takes me to a folder that has numerous folders and none of them do what it shows that they should do. Help!* It just

[users] Re: http://www.saveXP.org/ [WAS: Wrong OS or OS Version]

2008-06-10 Thread Jim Allan
Dotan Cohen wrote: 2008/6/10 ccornell - OpenOffice.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Serious question: what is so good about Windows XP that it is worth petitioning for? I have used Windows XP in the past, and found it a very frustrating and insecure operating system. What features does Windows XP have

RE: [users] Re: Email Client

2008-06-10 Thread McLauchlan, Kevin
On Behalf Of Gordon said: Dennis Lyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote Hello, I love using Open Office and am very, very thankful for its creation. What I would like to know is if there are any plans to create an email client similar to Outlook? The functionality of Outlook is unsurpassed by

Re: [users] Downloading OOo and can't get it to install

2008-06-10 Thread M Henri Day
2008/6/10 Jack D. Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: We are constantly seeing this question repeated on this list. Most of them are phrased similar to this: *I downloaded your openoffice program and cannot open any of it. It takes me to a folder that has numerous folders and none of them do what it

Re: [users] Downloading OOo and can't get it to install

2008-06-10 Thread mike scott
On 10 Jun 2008 at 8:38, Jack D. Lewis wrote: We are constantly seeing this question repeated on this list. Most of them are phrased similar to this: *I downloaded your openoffice program and cannot open any of it. It takes me to a folder that has numerous folders and none of them do what

Re: [users] Downloading OOo and can't get it to install

2008-06-10 Thread mike scott
On 10 Jun 2008 at 17:16, M Henri Day wrote: ... advisory. And it might not be a bad idea to also say something about turning off the firewall during the downloading process I hope you didn't mean that! Sounds a recipe for disaster to me. -- Permission for this mail to be processed by any

[users] Re: Downloading OOo and can't get it to install

2008-06-10 Thread Gordon
Jack D. Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] We are constantly seeing this question repeated on this list. Most of them are phrased similar to this: *I downloaded your openoffice program and cannot open any of it. It takes me to a folder that has numerous folders

Re: [users] Downloading OOo and can't get it to install

2008-06-10 Thread mike scott
On 10 Jun 2008 at 17:57, M Henri Day wrote: 2008/6/10 mike scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 10 Jun 2008 at 17:16, M Henri Day wrote: ... advisory. And it might not be a bad idea to also say something about turning off the firewall during the downloading process I hope you didn't

[users] Re: Downloading OOo and can't get it to install

2008-06-10 Thread Gordon
mike scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Rumour has it that an unfirewalled (is that a word?) windows box on the net is likely to take only seconds or minutes to become compromised. Absolutely. I did a re-install of XP prior to the release of the service pack that

Re: [users] Re: Word wrap in Impress

2008-06-10 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Sun, 08 Jun 2008 11:39:30 -0700 NoOp [EMAIL PROTECTED] dijo: On 06/07/2008 05:09 PM, Drew Jensen wrote: Then again - maybe this will help.. http://www.oucv.org/download/wrapt_text_arround_graphic_in_impress.odp http://www.oucv.org/download/wrapt_text_arround_graphic_in_impress.pdf

Re: [users] Probably another stupid calc question

2008-06-10 Thread Allen
Johnny Rosenberg wrote: I just want to add that, in Excel you could type things like =sum(A:A). I miss that behaviour in OpenOffice.org. It's the only (I think) Excel feature that I actually miss… A:A means the whole A column. I have tried this in Calc but failed, so I guess Calc lacks that

Re: [users] Re: Downloading OOo and can't get it to install

2008-06-10 Thread M Henri Day
2008/6/10 Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: mike scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Rumour has it that an unfirewalled (is that a word?) windows box on the net is likely to take only seconds or minutes to become compromised. Absolutely. I did a re-install of XP

Re: [users] How to type chinese in openoffice

2008-06-10 Thread M Henri Day
2008/6/9 chongcmatches [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dear help desk please let me know how i can type chinese characters in open office. thanks Chongcmatches, can you tell us a bit more about your setup - what OS you use, whether you are able to type in Chinese Glyphs in other programmes than OOo,

Re: [users] Re: Word wrap in Impress

2008-06-10 Thread Jack D. Lewis
John Jason Jordan wrote the following on 6/10/2008 10:28 AM: On Sun, 08 Jun 2008 11:39:30 -0700 NoOp [EMAIL PROTECTED] dijo: On 06/07/2008 05:09 PM, Drew Jensen wrote: Then again - maybe this will help.. http://www.oucv.org/download/wrapt_text_arround_graphic_in_impress.odp

Re: [users] Deleting empty paragraphs [was: Probably another stupid Calc question]

2008-06-10 Thread Brian Barker
At 09:43 10/06/2008 -0700, Allen Noname wrote: I miss treating the paragraph marker as a searchable item. In my log files I often get spurious extra paragraphs that I want to delete by a simple Search and Replace All with the Word term being ^p^p - ^p. Given that a shift-enter, \n, is allowed

Re: [users] Downloading Open Office

2008-06-10 Thread David Lowe
On Jun 8, 2008, at 22:06 , Bill Gill wrote: Am running a OS 10.4.11on a Power PC Mac using Firefox. Keep getting the message attached. What do I do please/ Attachments don't usually make it past the list manager server. I'm afraid you'll have to transcribe the message for us. Also,

Re: [users] Re: Word wrap in Impress

2008-06-10 Thread Drew Jensen
Jack D. Lewis wrote: John Jason Jordan wrote the following on 6/10/2008 10:28 AM: On Sun, 08 Jun 2008 11:39:30 -0700 NoOp [EMAIL PROTECTED] dijo: On 06/07/2008 05:09 PM, Drew Jensen wrote: Then again - maybe this will help..

[users] Re: How to type chinese in openoffice

2008-06-10 Thread Jim Allan
chongcmatches wrote: please let me know how i can type chinese characters in open office. OpenOffice.org has no particular way of typing Chinese characters. It leaves character input entirely and totally up to the operating system. That is, if you can type Chinese characters in other

Re: [users] http://www.saveXP.org/ [WAS: Wrong OS or OS Version]

2008-06-10 Thread James Knott
Dotan Cohen wrote: 2008/6/6 Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Am 2008-06-04 12:56:39, schrieb John Boyle: To James Knott: You have just proven my point, as you are very knowledgeable with both programs. Again, however, a relative newbie, like me, does NOT have the patience nor the skills to

Re: [users] New proof: Office 14 slated for 2009

2008-06-10 Thread Robin Laing
M Henri Day wrote: 2008/6/10 Fred A. Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Given the fact that the Microsoft fines court case is still, after Microsoft's appeal, *sub judice*, I should rather expect that the company will attempt to be seen as playing nice with odt files, while at the same time placing

[users] Re: docx

2008-06-10 Thread NoOp
On 06/10/2008 04:39 AM, James Knott wrote: Tony Venn wrote: I work on MAC with OSX, and I have a full commercial working version of the Office programs. People keep sending CVs and documents to me in DOCX format - how do i open or convert these into normal word documents? At the moment

Re: [users] Re: docx

2008-06-10 Thread Michael Adams
format - how do i open or convert these into normal word documents? Tony Venn | Account Manager 20080610 0620 GMT-6 You cant. Actually, you can. There are several versions of Open Office available that will open the new Office 2007 documents - one being OxygenOffice, available here

Re: [users] Email Client

2008-06-10 Thread Robin Laing
Dennis Lyon wrote: Hello, I love using Open Office and am very, very thankful for its creation. What I would like to know is if there are any plans to create an email client similar to Outlook? The functionality of Outlook is unsurpassed by any free email client I've ever tried, but it is

Re: [users] http://www.saveXP.org/ [WAS: Wrong OS or OS Version]

2008-06-10 Thread Robin Laing
Dotan Cohen wrote: 2008/6/10 ccornell - OpenOffice.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Serious question: what is so good about Windows XP that it is worth I see. This is how I summerize: 1) Dissatisfaction with the successor of XP 2) Unfamiliarity with anything else 3) Inability of legacy programs to run

[users] OT? Appeals block OOXML - at least for now.

2008-06-10 Thread Robin Laing
http://www.iso.org/iso/pressrelease.htm?refid=Ref1136 Four national standards bodies appeal against approval of ISO/IEC DIS 29500 2008-06-06 Four national standards body members of ISO and IEC – Brazil, India, South Africa and Venezuela – have submitted appeals against the recent approval

[users] Re: docx

2008-06-10 Thread Larry Gusaas
NoOp, 2008/06/10 1:49 PM: I know that the linux Windows versions install without disrupting the existing OOo installs; does anyone know if this is true for the MAC version as well? It's true for Mac's (only the M is capitalized) as well.

Re: [users] Re: docx

2008-06-10 Thread James Knott
NoOp wrote: On 06/10/2008 04:39 AM, James Knott wrote: Tony Venn wrote: I work on MAC with OSX, and I have a full commercial working version of the Office programs. People keep sending CVs and documents to me in DOCX format - how do i open or convert these into normal word documents?

Re: [users] Downloading OOo and can't get it to install

2008-06-10 Thread John Boyle
Jack D. Lewis wrote: We are constantly seeing this question repeated on this list. Most of them are phrased similar to this: *I downloaded your openoffice program and cannot open any of it. It takes me to a folder that has numerous folders and none of them do what it shows that they should

Re: [users] http://www.saveXP.org/ [WAS: Wrong OS or OS Version]

2008-06-10 Thread John Boyle
Robin Laing wrote: Dotan Cohen wrote: 2008/6/10 ccornell - OpenOffice.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Serious question: what is so good about Windows XP that it is worth I see. This is how I summerize: 1) Dissatisfaction with the successor of XP 2) Unfamiliarity with anything else 3) Inability of

Re: [users] Re: http://www.saveXP.org/ [WAS: Wrong OS or OS Version]

2008-06-10 Thread John Boyle
Jim Allan wrote: Dotan Cohen wrote: 2008/6/10 ccornell - OpenOffice.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Serious question: what is so good about Windows XP that it is worth petitioning for? I have used Windows XP in the past, and found it a very frustrating and insecure operating system. What features does

Re: [users] Downloading OOo and can't get it to install

2008-06-10 Thread Jack D. Lewis
John Boyle wrote the following on 6/10/2008 2:58 PM: Jack D. Lewis wrote: We are constantly seeing this question repeated on this list. Most of them are phrased similar to this: *I downloaded your openoffice program and cannot open any of it. It takes me to a folder that has numerous

[users] Re: docx

2008-06-10 Thread Jim Allan
James Knott wrote: If you go back and reread my message, it said to request ODF files first and then .DOC as secondary. The idea is to get people to stop thinking Microsoft formats are the only way to go. Simply reject anything that comes as .DOCX with a note explaining what's required and

Re: [users] Re: docx

2008-06-10 Thread James Knott
Jim Allan wrote: James Knott wrote: If you go back and reread my message, it said to request ODF files first and then .DOC as secondary. The idea is to get people to stop thinking Microsoft formats are the only way to go. Simply reject anything that comes as .DOCX with a note explaining

[users] Re: docx

2008-06-10 Thread NoOp
On 06/10/2008 02:51 PM, James Knott wrote: Jim Allan wrote: James Knott wrote: If you go back and reread my message, it said to request ODF files first and then .DOC as secondary. The idea is to get people to stop thinking Microsoft formats are the only way to go. Simply reject

[users] Re: docx

2008-06-10 Thread Larry Gusaas
NoOp, 2008/06/10 4:14 PM: 2. M17 give the OP the opportunity to have a look at what OOo 3.0 will look like come September. And given the fact the current dev versions do not mess with the existing OOo installs (Mac verified by Larry Gusaas - thanks Larry) and the OP can run them side-by-side,

[users] Re: http://www.saveXP.org/ [WAS: Wrong OS or OS Version]

2008-06-10 Thread Jim Allan
John Boyle wrote: To Jim Allan, et al: How much research did you do and did you ask on such forums as Linux Questions.Org? Did you ask any of the companies that actually make the different distro's? As for any accounting packages that work with Linux, I beg to differ with you as there ARE

Re: [users] Re: http://www.saveXP.org/ [WAS: Wrong OS or OS Version]

2008-06-10 Thread jonathon
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 2:12 PM, John Boyle wrote: As for any accounting packages that work with Linux, I beg to differ with you as there ARE some really good ones, Lack of information about industry certified software is one of the critical issues in Linux migration. Why is it that many

Re: [users] http://www.saveXP.org/ [WAS: Wrong OS or OS Version]

2008-06-10 Thread jonathon
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 5:28 AM, ccornell - OpenOffice.org wrote: I say only because when in the last 20 years have you gone into a consumer electronics store or a dedicated home AFAIK, computers at _The Apple Store_ have never shipped with a Microsoft operating system. xan jonathon

[users] Re: http://www.saveXP.org/ [WAS: Wrong OS or OS Version]

2008-06-10 Thread Larry Gusaas
ccornell - OpenOffice.org, 2008/06/10 6:28 AM: (I say only because when in the last 20 years have you gone into a consumer electronics store or a dedicated home computer shop and found anything but some version of Windows?) I've found Macs in many stores over the last twenty years. Currently

[users] Writer - Gradient background

2008-06-10 Thread rob clement
I am looking for some help in writer. I am trying to have a colour background that starts on the left hand side of my page and then fades, so that in the middle and to the right the background is white. I can see how to put a solid colour background for characters, paragraphs and tables but not a

[users] Re: docx

2008-06-10 Thread NoOp
On 06/10/2008 03:43 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: NoOp, 2008/06/10 4:14 PM: 2. M17 give the OP the opportunity to have a look at what OOo 3.0 will look like come September. And given the fact the current dev versions do not mess with the existing OOo installs (Mac verified by Larry Gusaas - thanks

[users] Re: http://www.saveXP.org/ [WAS: Wrong OS or OS Version]

2008-06-10 Thread NoOp
On 06/10/2008 04:04 PM, Jim Allan wrote: John Boyle wrote: To Jim Allan, et al: How much research did you do and did you ask on such forums as Linux Questions.Org? Did you ask any of the companies that actually make the different distro's? As for any accounting packages that work with