Re: [videoblogging] Re: Video Podcasting? wtf :(

2005-09-18 Thread trine bjørkmann berry
@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 10:47 AM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Video Podcasting? wtf :( This all hints at why terminology IS very important. If a term can make your friend get, when another term cant, there is something important there. Last night I heard a rally

[videoblogging] Re: Video Podcasting? wtf :(

2005-09-17 Thread Pete Prodoehl
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Brett Gaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yo yo yo, join me, drop the P, add a D, I wanna make oddcasts. But do we call them spatcasts, spatucasts, spatulacasts, or spatulablogs, or spatulatory delight? Questions, questions! Well, my personal

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Video Podcasting? wtf :(

2005-09-17 Thread Adam Quirk
On 9/17/05, Pete Prodoehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Look, it's all well and good to *discuss* spatulas, but without a spatulacast to back it up, the words are meaningless... http://tinkernet.org/2005/09/16/spatulacasting/ Pete How do you have a conversation about spatulacasting without

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Video Podcasting? wtf :(

2005-09-17 Thread Brett Gaylor
Look, you guys.  Are we spatulacasting our spatulablogging? I know why I got into this...http://www.etherworks.ca/2005_09_01_blogarchive.htmlOn 17-Sep-05, at 4:40 AM, Adam Quirk wrote: On 9/17/05, Pete Prodoehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Look, it's all well and good to *discuss* spatulas, but

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Video Podcasting? wtf :(

2005-09-17 Thread Steve Garfield
My grandmother had casters on her couch so she could move it around more easily. She was one of the first vouchcasters... ;-) On Sep 16, 2005, at 11:13 AM, Markus Sandy wrote: Am I the only rock and roller old enough to remember when casters referred to a particular bunch of groupies that

[videoblogging] Re: Video Podcasting? wtf :(

2005-09-17 Thread James A. Donnelly
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My grandmother had casters on her couch so she could move it around more easily. She was one of the first vouchcasters... ;-) On Sep 16, 2005, at 11:13 AM, Markus Sandy wrote: Am I the only rock and roller

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Video Podcasting? wtf :(

2005-09-17 Thread Randolfe Wicker
: Video Podcasting? wtf :( This all hints at why terminology IS very important. If a term can make your friend get, when another term cant, there is something important there. Last night I heard a rally of women speaking out against John Roberts. Because he is against abortion, they were saying he

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Video Podcasting? wtf :(

2005-09-17 Thread Michael Sullivan
, September 16, 2005 10:47 AMSubject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Video Podcasting? wtf :( This all hints at why terminology IS very important. If a term canmake your friend get, when another term cant, there is somethingimportant there.Last night I heard a rally of women speaking out against John Roberts

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Video Podcasting? wtf :(

2005-09-17 Thread Michael Sullivan
channelcast. :-) -- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog

[videoblogging] Re: Video Podcasting? wtf :(

2005-09-16 Thread Eric Rice
I think it's important to separate actual technology from content and interaction. Blogs, podcasts, and videoblogs triumph on the technology of subscription delivery: RSS et al. Audio and video (and any other media file for that matter) can be automatically downloaded via this technology.

[videoblogging] Re: Video Podcasting? wtf :(

2005-09-16 Thread Eric Rice
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it sucks. sorry eric. it sucks. i dont like it for audio, i certainly dont like it for video. an iPod and any mobile device is only one-part of the big scheme of things anyways. i wont dare suggest a new word

[videoblogging] Re: Video Podcasting? wtf :(

2005-09-16 Thread Eric Rice
I don't mean to sound TOO snarky, but should we just call off any and all efforts to do anything with portable video, including but not limited to phones, PSPs, and other disconnected devices? It sounds like we're trying to force people-made media into a very very tiny box. Blog- only, or no

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Video Podcasting? wtf :(

2005-09-16 Thread andrew michael baron
On Sep 16, 2005, at 4:01 AM, Eric Rice wrote: I don't mean to sound TOO snarky, but should we just call off any and all efforts to do anything with portable video, including but not limited to phones, PSPs, and other disconnected devices? No, we shouldnt. Who was saying that we

[videoblogging] Re: Video Podcasting? wtf :(

2005-09-16 Thread Gena
So when we do Meet the Vloggers I am supposed to keep a running list of all the terms used to discribe what we do? Am I also supposed to explain the generation of the terms? Folks would be rubbing their hair out. I can't at this time create a video with an ipod. I can't edit or change anything

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Video Podcasting? wtf :(

2005-09-16 Thread Pete Prodoehl
andrew michael baron wrote: # Video podcasting is different than videoblogging. Podcasting does not have the blog part. Some podcasters attempt to work this avenue, but podcasting as a medium generally ignores metadata, hyperlinks, and general blog mentality. Podcasters will try and

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Video Podcasting? wtf :(

2005-09-16 Thread Pete Prodoehl
Bill Streeter wrote: I agree with Eric, use what works. Okay, I mentioned this a while back. I'm not a fan of the word blog. It's really not a pleasant sounding word. Believe it or not a lot of civilians I run into still have no clue what a blog is. So when you start throwing terms like

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Video Podcasting? wtf :(

2005-09-16 Thread Markus Sandy
Am I the only rock and roller old enough to remember when "casters" referred to a particular bunch of groupies that used to be famous for making plaster casts of various rock stars' private parts? We need a better name. Besides, we're not really casting anyway (this is not a push

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Video Podcasting? wtf :(

2005-09-16 Thread Michael Sullivan
On 9/16/05, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We need a better name. Besides, we're not really casting anyway (this is not a push technology, except possibly for the pings and trackbacks). Though you may have an argument here, it has a few holes. Today, we have new technology... we are

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Video Podcasting? wtf :(

2005-09-16 Thread Markus Sandy
h, good point sull. but you know me, I'm thinking p2p here and in that case it's not just a simple 1 to many (server-client) relationship between a content producer and their audience in p2p land, there is a more viral distribution mechanism at play: I pull Josh Leo's feed and see

[videoblogging] Re: Video Podcasting? wtf :(

2005-09-16 Thread Bill Streeter
I've actually run into snags explaining to people that they can subscribe to my video blog. More often than not people ask, how much does it cost? So even the term subscription can be problematic--as many people associate the word subscription to some kind of pay for play system like magazine

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Video Podcasting? wtf :(

2005-09-16 Thread Kunga
Snarky.. OK I give up. I no longer know my own identity. We appear to be in the midst of a semantic war over what this/these new medium/ media is/are. I guess we need an Apple Video iPod for temporary validation of the Video Podcast term. But remember when there used to be a Photo iPod? Now

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Video Podcasting? wtf :(

2005-09-16 Thread Michael Sullivan
EnclosureCast is a pun. Dont take that seriously. see: http://search.yahoo.com/mrss see: http://www.advogato.org/article/853.html maybe try: Taylor Barcroft New Media Publisher, Editor, Journalist, Blogger ; ^ ) ;-) On 9/16/05, Kunga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Snarky.. OK I give up. I no

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Video Podcasting? wtf :(

2005-09-16 Thread Michael Sullivan
when talking to your potential audience etc who may not be in the know of the geekery, why not just call it Internet TV and Internet Radio? And you have a Channel with Shows. they can Tune In with a Free Subscription Visit this Website and/or Download this Software to get started. You can

[videoblogging] Re: Video Podcasting? wtf :(

2005-09-16 Thread Steve Watkins
No its probably a hardware thing too. Processor in current iPods probably hugely inadequate to decode mpeg4, let alone h264. Could be other bottlenecks, but I dont know, eg display controller. Video ipod will need more powerful processor, or extra chips that can decode video and not use allt he

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Video Podcasting? wtf :(

2005-09-16 Thread Brett Gaylor
The only way I can get my non-geek friends to understand what videblogging is:"It's like podcasting.  But with video."I hate it as much as the next, but at the end of the day I don't really care that much. Come to think of it, say the word "blog" five times and listen to how stupid it is.  Or,

[videoblogging] Re: Video Podcasting? wtf :(

2005-09-16 Thread Bill Streeter
Debate? Discussion? Eh... whatever, it's a good conversation to have, regardless. When I'm talking to other vloggers it's a settled issue for me. I'll call it vlogging, vlog, or video blog. I guess the terminology isn't an issue for me until I try to talk to someone about it that is outside

[videoblogging] Re: Video Podcasting? wtf :(

2005-09-16 Thread Steve Watkins
I work with many, for the lack of a better term, 'normal' English people. Many of them have been on the net for 5 or 6 years, but few have ever connected to any of the sites, communities, cultures and information streams that I do. Age range about 25-55 so not quite part of the latest digital

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Video Podcasting? wtf :(

2005-09-16 Thread Pete Prodoehl
Brett Gaylor wrote: The only way I can get my non-geek friends to understand what videblogging is: It's like podcasting. But with video. I hate it as much as the next, but at the end of the day I don't really care that much. Come to think of it, say the word blog five times and

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Video Podcasting? wtf :(

2005-09-16 Thread Brett Gaylor
Spatula City, here I come!ispatulacast.pod.net , streamed in HD to your aggregator futurecaster open content directory-fier!  Frickin A!For free!b - Brett Gaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.etherworks.ca YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web.

[videoblogging] Re: Video Podcasting? wtf :(

2005-09-16 Thread Steve Watkins
Yes I demand a HDV version of spatula. My detailed laboratory analysis on the issue reveals that the optimal settings for encoding widescreen spatula video is as follows: 960x540 at no less than 1500kbits/sec. People disagree over how many frames per second humans need of the spatula in flight,

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Video Podcasting? wtf :(

2005-09-16 Thread Brett Gaylor
OK, sorry to railroad serious stuff, here, but I just have to point you all to the:Web Economy Bullshit Generatorhttp://www.dack.com/web/bullshit.htmlRemember: optimize dot-com nichesbOn 16-Sep-05, at 2:48 PM, Brett Gaylor wrote: Spatula City, here I come!ispatulacast.pod.net , streamed in HD to

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Video Podcasting? wtf :(

2005-09-16 Thread Brett Gaylor
960x540 at no less than 1500kbits/sec.Are you certain that this will meet Apple's SDK for iTunes 12.7 (code name: Marmot)?I have my doubts that H.268 will support this sort of redonculation.b - Brett Gaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.etherworks.ca SPONSORED LINKS

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Video Podcasting? wtf :(

2005-09-16 Thread Adam Quirk
On 9/16/05, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Due to their shape, spatulas are prone to obvious interlacing artefacts when in motion. Some of the finest minds this side of sneezeston on knees are working on the optimum spatula deinterlacing algorithm. Unified heterogeneous algorithms

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Video Podcasting? wtf :(

2005-09-16 Thread Pete Prodoehl
Steve Watkins wrote: Yes I demand a HDV version of spatula. My detailed laboratory analysis on the issue reveals that the optimal settings for encoding widescreen spatula video is as follows: 960x540 at no less than 1500kbits/sec. People disagree over how many frames per second humans

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Video Podcasting? wtf :(

2005-09-16 Thread Randolfe Wicker
16, 2005 1:06 PM Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Video Podcasting? wtf :( I've actually run into snags explaining to people that they can "subscribe" to my video blog. More often than not people ask, "how much does it cost?" So even the term subscription can be problematic--

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Video Podcasting? wtf :(

2005-09-16 Thread Brett Gaylor
Yo yo yo, join me, drop the P, add a D, I wanna make oddcasts. But do we call them spatcasts, spatucasts, spatulacasts, or spatulablogs, or spatulatory delight? Questions, questions!Well, my personal spatulablog (I've given up on my battle to just call them spatublogs...I accept that the

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Video Podcasting? wtf :(

2005-09-16 Thread Michael Sullivan
videoblog. Sign up for doesn't imply something you pay for. - Original Message - From: Bill Streeter To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 1:06 PM Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Video Podcasting? wtf :( I've

[videoblogging] Re: Video Podcasting? wtf :(

2005-09-16 Thread Bill Streeter
] *To:* videoblogging@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, September 16, 2005 1:06 PM *Subject:* [videoblogging] Re: Video Podcasting? wtf :( I've actually run into snags explaining to people that they can subscribe to my video blog. More often than not people ask, how much does it cost? -- My name

[videoblogging] Re: Video Podcasting? wtf :(

2005-09-15 Thread James A. Donnelly
Most people don't even know what a podcast is it's a toss up. jad madpod.com (podcast) dummycast.com (video podcast :)) --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://apple.slashdot.org/apple/05/09/15/1821228.shtml? tid=176tid=95tid=3 Will we be stuck

[videoblogging] Re: Video Podcasting? wtf :(

2005-09-15 Thread Eric Rice
Heh, I lost this battle at Audioblog... (we're a democracy, not a benevolent dictatorship. heh)... 'Video podcast' drove me bonkers, I still use videoblog, and 'vlog' is my slang for those in familiar company. While I argued that 'podcast' is technically understood to be audio, the point of

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Video Podcasting? wtf :(

2005-09-15 Thread andrew michael baron
On Sep 15, 2005, at 8:37 PM, Eric Rice wrote: Heh, I lost this battle at Audioblog... # Video podcasting is different than videoblogging. Podcasting does not have the blog part. Some podcasters attempt to work this avenue, but podcasting as a medium generally ignores metadata, hyperlinks,

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Video Podcasting? wtf :(

2005-09-15 Thread Michael Sullivan
this topic is like the cancer of this group... so funny. it comes and goes and eats away at us. i've made so many posts about it. for my own pleasure, and because i am drunk and bored, i will regurgitate for my virtual friends. my main point has always been that we and all should stay clear

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Video Podcasting? wtf :(

2005-09-15 Thread Kunga
OK you convinced me. I am a Mediacaster. Transmitting for download Audio, Video and PDFs. Thanks Michael. -- Taylor Barcroft New Media Publisher, Editor, Video Journalist, Mediacaster Santa Cruz CA, Beach of the Silicon Valley URL http://FutureMedia.org RSS