date:20060215

Yeah, it's undisputed here, Fireant's the dog's bollocks of aggregators.

I'm suggesting we invite the innovators into the conversation, from the 
outside it looks like the Stickam peeps are on the ball and have ideas 
and tech know how.

Let's get them in here and talk. Just because NIH it'ss no reason to 
not think they can help help expand the vlogging universe. It's not 
about business competition, is it?

The point is they are hosting video and have have a nice interface. 
Dierdre  (hi Dierdre) pointed out in another mail she was having 
trouble uploading to them but thought well of their interface, let's 
give them feedback. I really like youtube, vsocial, audioblog, vpod.tv, 
blip.tv, vimeo, youare.tv (an others I'm forgetting to mention here) 
and the Archive, but why not have more choices?

Stickam is just launching yesterday (or today?) and probably working 
out their strategy as are probably some of the others. Nothing is 
perfect yet. Can't we be constructive instead of dismissive?

Let's give them a chance too. Do Stickcam even know about this group? 
Let's invite them and see if they can help progress the videoblogging 
effort.

What do you say?  (and again, I wasn't dissing Fireant in the previous 
email, it's only that I'm newly finding I like to visit the blogs of 
the peeps posting and see their work in context).



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 I'm not just saying that because I'm one of the creators.
 ... your question had to do
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Re: [videoblogging] Pricing Media (difficult question)

throw some airline software against the problem and go get a round of funding! ;)On 2/14/06, robert a/k/a r
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Heh. Regarding distribution of media this is interesting.

We know how auctions work, right. Well, AMC is predicting it's coming
to movies (link is to NYT article) at the theatre.

http://snipurl.com/mkkt

Rocketboom's success in collecting USD 40k for a weeks worth (as I
recall, that the correct figure/duration?) of adverts at the end of
each episode is another good example of how efficient the market is
becoming. I'm using RB here only because it's the most visible pricing
in recent history, of course we're talking about any media production.

We live in interesting times. These are old models being applied today.
Why? It's the Internet, it's like why male dogs do what they do.

Media Distribution + Pricing Mechanism = Web 2.0 (well, part of it
anyway)

Obviously such variable pricing works because the number of seats in
the theatre is limited and they have a half life. It's not dissimilar
to the freshness of vegetables on the shelf at the grocer which expire
or the freshness of media. If a seat in the theatre goes unsold it's
not recoverable. If a bunch of carrots go unsold they are not
recoverable.

What happens to the price for a show on the Internet once it is no
longer fresh, can it still be sold as new? Can a secondary market
develop and, if so, how will it work?

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Re: [videoblogging] Pricing Media (difficult question)

actually, would not be suprised if Barry Diller's IAC does this ...nyt is right.. long overdue.On 2/15/06, Ted Tagami
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:throw some airline software against the problem and go get a round of funding! ;)
On 2/14/06, robert a/k/a r

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Heh. Regarding distribution of media this is interesting.

We know how auctions work, right. Well, AMC is predicting it's coming
to movies (link is to NYT article) at the theatre.

http://snipurl.com/mkkt

We live in interesting times. These are old models being applied today.
Why? It's the Internet, it's like why male dogs do what they do.

Media Distribution + Pricing Mechanism = Web 2.0 (well, part of it
anyway)

What happens to the price for a show on the Internet once it is no
longer fresh, can it still be sold as new? Can a secondary market
develop and, if so, how will it work?

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[videoblogging] Re: SXSW - Who is bringing a camera?

2006-02-15 Thread Chuck Olsen


Richard! Yes many of us will be there throughout interactive...
starting on the 10th-11th. It'd sure be awesome if you can swing it.

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Re: [videoblogging] Pricing Media (difficult question)

Heh, methinks it's more of an intellectual question than a business opportunity (fund raising) question for me, thought thanks for the suggestion and smily and feel free to go make a buck on it of you know the secret ;)

I'm thinking once an advert is published at the end of a show on the Internet it's television reruns. Though it much still is. The television rerun option is part and parcel of the Internet pricing, you can't separate the two because once the media is distributed the producer have lost control (i.e., the RB scheme) once the initial media is distributed with the advert. I'm not keen on DRM at all to solve this, btw, so don't think I'm going there.

Any clever pricing peeps reading? Yeah, it's a difficult question, can media be released without adverts and then be released with adverts? Can media be released on the Internet with adverts be re-released on the Internet with different adverts? Is there even such a thing as re-release on the Internet?

Regarding theatrical distribution, can variable pricing work as it does for airlines? Would you pay a premium for a guaranteed seat to a new release movie on Saturday night? Would you pay a premium to download the movie the day before the release? Would you watch a vlog with an advert to see it today vs seeing it next week without the advert? Would you pay to see a vlog today without an advert vs seeing it next week with an advert?

It's not easy stuff. Just saying. Yep, interesting times for media producers and distributors.

On Feb 15, 2006, at 3:41 AM, Ted Tagami wrote:

throw some airline software against the problem and go get a round of funding! ;)

On 2/14/06, robert a/k/a r [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Heh. Regarding distribution of media this is interesting.
We know how auctions work, right. Well, AMC is predicting it's coming
to movies (link is to NYT article) at the theatre.

http://snipurl.com/mkkt>

We live in interesting times. These are old models being applied today.
Why? It's the Internet, it's like why male dogs do what they do.

Media Distribution + Pricing Mechanism = Web 2.0 (well, part of it
anyway)

What happens to the price for a show on the Internet once it is no
longer fresh, can it still be sold as new? Can a secondary market
develop and, if so, how will it work?

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[videoblogging] Custom Animations for your Vlogs

2006-02-15 Thread Tom Kendall

Hi Everyone

We've been running a site, OfTheWorldTV, for a couple years now on 
the quiet. It was just something I threw together with my rough 
skills, as a portal for independent media. For the last 12 months a 
few people who have specialist flash and animations skills have been 
working with me building Version 3, which we're getting ready to 
release soon. The new version is awesome, and we hope you'll all love 
it :)

We now need some money for servers, bandwidth and some other things, 
so we've decided to offer our services to the public through our 
media workshop arm - The Forge  http://oftheworld.tv/theforge/

So, we're offering custom 10 second animations via ebay. They're 
great for titles, intros - all sorts of things. And they're pretty 
cheap also :)

You can check them out by searching for Custom Animation on Ebay, 
and you'll see The Forge listings.

We hope you like them and buy them, and help us bring you best of 
independent media from around the world with our upcoming release. 

Long live the media revolution!

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Re: [videoblogging] Pricing Media (difficult question)

2006-02-15 Thread Frank Carver

Wednesday, February 15, 2006, 9:17:10 AM, robert a/k/a r wrote:
 Any clever pricing peeps reading? Yeah, it's a difficult question, can
 media be released without adverts and then be released with adverts? 
 Can media be released on the Internet with adverts be re-released on 
 the Internet with different adverts? Is there even such a thing as 
 re-release on the Internet?

Interesting thoughts. I someone has asked me yesterday I guess I would
have just said that the adverts would potentially be different every
download, different times, different viewers or whetever. I'm so used
to Google ads now that the idea of an advert which is somehow fixed to
a media object seems somehow wierd.

I guess that the Rocketboom ad scheme will attach the ad to the
downloadable media. But that's because they talked about total number
of views over time and included it in the sales pitch. They could just
as easily sell first run (say, downloads within 24 hours of release)
and repeat advertising separately, at separate prices, if they
wanted to.

For all those online services which want to automatically add whetever
is their best match (i.e biggest paying :) ) commercial message to any
media, just like services like iFilm already do with pre-roll ads,
the ads are quite a separate thing.

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[videoblogging] Re: stickam

2006-02-15 Thread Stan Hirson, Sarah Jones

The test of  different services with their players all on the same page
to sample a standard file is great!  Very useful contribution!

Stan

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[videoblogging] Re: stickam

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 Doing some more thorough testing of Stickam today. If anyone's
interested,
 I'm live on their site at http://stickam.com/whosonline.jsp - now to
see if
 I can make that work on my own site!
 
 I've also got a test of their embedded player on
 http://beginningwithi.com/vlog/test.html
 
 
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Even though it's small, I like the embedded stickam player video on
your site.  I could see it being like a small image on a blog site the
illustrates the blog text, a thumbnail to a related site, or a
thumbnail to the larger sized version.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: stickam

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Hmm. Can some of you have a look at http://beginningwithi.com/vlog/test.html , especially the Revver link? I can't get them to process my video properly nohow.
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Re: [videoblogging] Pricing Media (difficult question)

2006-02-15 Thread Adam Quirk

On 2/15/06, robert a/k/a r [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

What happens to the price for a show on the Internet once it is no
longer fresh, can it still be sold as new? Can a secondary market
develop and, if so, how will it work?One of the things that internet distribution has going for it is the ability to time-shift the media, which cuts into this theory a little bit. Although for shows like Rocketboom that deal with current events, or news shows, I guess the carrot analogy holds true.
Most stuff I watch doesn't necessarily lose value as time goes by.Sites like the NYtimes charge people for archive diving. Maybe there's something there. The latest week's worth of media is freely distributable by all the available means, but anything older than a week costs X, where X is a reasonable price for a short video that someone wants to watch.
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: stickam

This is great, Dierdre!

Now that it's all in one place we've (read you've) made it easy for each of the hosting services to go check their wellness from a vlogging perspective, something the clued-in ones would already be doing. Wouldn't you hope each one has someone internal with a similar page.

Would it make sense to let each of the service providers know about your page, invite them to comment / fix / update and let us know what they're doing. I'n thinking the guys from Stickam are paddling furiously to get their service going and not seeing all, if any (have they found this list yet?), of the posts.


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Hmm. Can some of you have a look at http://beginningwithi.com/vlog/test.html , especially the Revver link? I can't get them to process my video properly nohow.


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 Hmm. Can some of you have a look at
 http://beginningwithi.com/vlog/test.html, especially the Revver link?
 I can't get them to process my video properly
 nohow.
 
 
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I got your video to play from the link to revver.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: stickam

It's verrry addictive.

Is it a tool for bringing traffic to a vlog. Or for discovering your 
vlog, eh?

Just thinking out loud.



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 I've been trying the video/IM stickam feature when enlarging the
 stickam widget.  It's quite fun and addictive.  You can see the video
 feed of other people who've enabled video below the main feed of the
 person you're connected to.  Perhaps later I'll try feeding my video.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: stickam

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Re: [videoblogging] Pricing Media (difficult question)

Adam, correct, the time-shift thing is very true, I'm thinking the pricing of the forward commodity, the advert, are and time-shifting are both in that equation some where. In the past, when calculating CPM and such the time-shift was not as significant because the media was better controlled. And today, when you lose control of the media you can't control first-run vs re-run pricing in the same way, if at all.

Further, continuing with the RB example, they chose to sell a weeks worth, which bundles mondays, tuesdays, etc and makes a unit. They could have auctioned just next monday and separately next tuesday, but they didn't. They made a conscious decision to sell a strip, which homogenises the price. Is a friday worth more than a tuesday? Who knows. If you watch the RB episode manufactured on tuesday time-shifted to friday is it worth more? If you watch it a year from now what is that advert worth?

And they chose the length of the strip as a risk / reward decision. What if RB had sold a months worth of adverts as a block. If they had, RB would have had less risk, though they may have received a lower price. Risk/reward at work there too.

Seems like there's a lot of blending going on in new media pricing. This is not totally new science, however it is good to think about in the context of vlog economics.

On Feb 15, 2006, at 11:28 AM, Adam Quirk wrote:

On 2/15/06, robert a/k/a r [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Obviously such variable pricing works because the number of seats in
the theatre is limited and they have a half life. It's not dissimilar
to the freshness of vegetables on the shelf at the grocer which expire
or the freshness of media. If a seat in the theatre goes unsold it's
not recoverable. If a bunch of carrots go unsold they are not
recoverable.

Sites like the NYtimes charge people for archive diving. Maybe there's something there. The latest week's worth of media is freely distributable by all the available means, but anything older than a week costs X, where X is a reasonable price for a short video that someone wants to watch.

[videoblogging] Re: Pricing Media (difficult question)

With time shifting, I would think the value (or more the lack of
value) of not only the content changes but also the ad, probably more
so.  A company can go out of business, change hands, change products,
and would probably have a new version of the product at a later date.
 If the ad was generic enough it may have longer pertinence.  But I
would think the ad would be less meaningful and valuable to the
company paying for it in time.

  -- Enric
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Adam, correct, the time-shift thing is very true, I'm thinking the 
 pricing of the forward commodity, the advert, are and time-shifting are 
 both in that equation some where. In the past, when calculating CPM and 
 such the time-shift was not as significant because the media was better 
 controlled. And today, when you lose control of the media you can't 
 control first-run vs re-run pricing in the same way, if at all.
 
 Further, continuing with the RB example, they chose to sell a weeks 
 worth, which bundles mondays, tuesdays, etc and makes a unit. They 
 could have auctioned just next monday and separately next tuesday, but 
 they didn't. They made a conscious decision to sell a strip, which 
 homogenises the price. Is a friday worth more than a tuesday? Who 
 knows. If you watch the RB episode manufactured on tuesday time-shifted 
 to friday is it worth more? If you watch it a year from now what is 
 that advert worth?
 
 And they chose the length of the strip as a risk / reward decision. 
 What if RB had sold a months worth of adverts as a block. If they had, 
 RB would have had less risk, though they may have received a lower 
 price. Risk/reward at work there too.
 
 Seems like there's a lot of blending going on in new media pricing. 
 This is not totally new science, however it is good to think about in 
 the context of vlog economics.
 
 
 
 
 On Feb 15, 2006, at 11:28 AM, Adam Quirk wrote:
 
   On 2/15/06, robert a/k/a r [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Obviously such variable pricing works because the number of seats in
   the theatre is limited and they have a half life. It's not
dissimilar
   to the freshness of vegetables on the shelf at the grocer which 
  expire
   or the freshness of media. If a seat in the theatre goes unsold it's
   not recoverable. If a bunch of carrots go unsold they are not
   recoverable.
 
   What happens to the price for a show on the Internet once it is no
   longer fresh, can it still be sold as new? Can a secondary market
   develop and, if so, how will it work?
  One of the things that internet distribution has going for it is the 
  ability to time-shift the media, which cuts into this theory a little 
  bit.  Although for shows like Rocketboom that deal with current 
  events, or news shows, I guess the carrot analogy holds true. 
  Most stuff I watch doesn't necessarily lose value as time goes by.
 
  Sites like the NYtimes charge people for archive diving.  Maybe 
  there's something there.  The latest week's worth of media is freely 
  distributable by all the available means, but anything older than a 
  week costs X, where X is a reasonable price for a short video that 
  someone wants to watch.
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Public Access TV and Videoblogging

2006-02-15 Thread Adam Quirk




On a (almost) related note, which many of the U.S. citizens here probably already know, the proposed U.S. budget for 2007 has some nasty cuts to our already under-funded CPB.
Bush's proposed 2007 budget
calls for a $671.9 million for the Broadcasting Board of Governors
(BBG), the federal agency that supervises all US government
non-military propaganda. Bush's budget also cuts by more than $53
million money set aside for the Corporation for Public Broadcasting
(CPB), the agency that allocates federal money for NPR, PBS and other
federally funded media.The amount allocated to the BBG is a 4.3 percent increase from the
agency's 2006 budget with monies specifically targeted to the war on
terror, according to a Monday news release.
These tax dollars would flow to government mouthpieces including the
Voice of America, Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty, the Middle East
Broadcasting Networks, Radio Free Asia, and the Office of Cuba
Broadcasting.

The propaganda earmark exceeds Bush's proposed federal budget for
public broadcasting by more than 90 percent. The White House proposal seeks to slash the CPB's 2007 appropriation from $400 million to $346.5 million.

The budget also proposes to zero out an additional $65 million that
local public broadcasters had requested to help pay for digital TV
conversion and the costs of upgrading public broadcasting's satellite
interconnection system. These cuts would hobble NPR and PBS stations'
ability to deliver the investigative reporting and in-depth news and
information that's absent from the programming of their commercial
counterparts.URL: http://www.digitaldivide.net/blog/TimKarr/view?PostID=10950 Does the CPB fund MNN, Jay?





  
  
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[videoblogging] Re: Pricing Media (difficult question)

2006-02-15 Thread davecircumnavigator

John Wanamaker, the founder of Macy's said, I know half my 
advertising is wasted, I just don't know which half.

Big advertising agencies use very sophisticated math models and 
software to plan, execute and manage their ad buys for their 
clients.  They can track the effectiveness of every ad in every media 
with a great deal of accuracy and precision.  And yet and ad with an 
old lady saying where's the beef, or a bunch of young urban men 
saying, wassup can capture the attention of the audience and blow 
all those metrics out of the water.  As Internet advertising came 
online, a concomitant push for performance-measured advertising also 
developed.  Advertisers got hard-nosed and wanted a proven ROI for 
every dollar spent.  Well, where's the beef and wassup?  Advertising 
is an art and a science.  Get your head too buried in the statistics 
and you miss the point that really good creative execution can make 
those metrics meaningless.  Ignore the numbers and you end up with 
wonderful art that sells nothing. 

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 With time shifting, I would think the value (or more the lack of
 value) of not only the content changes but also the ad, probably 
more
 so.  A company can go out of business, change hands, change 
products,
 and would probably have a new version of the product at a later 
date.
  If the ad was generic enough it may have longer pertinence.  But I
 would think the ad would be less meaningful and valuable to the
 company paying for it in time.
 
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 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, robert a/k/a r
 robert.videoblogging@ wrote:
 
  Adam, correct, the time-shift thing is very true, I'm thinking 
the 
  pricing of the forward commodity, the advert, are and time-
shifting are 
  both in that equation some where. In the past, when calculating 
CPM and 
  such the time-shift was not as significant because the media was 
better 
  controlled. And today, when you lose control of the media you 
can't 
  control first-run vs re-run pricing in the same way, if at all.
  
  Further, continuing with the RB example, they chose to sell a 
weeks 
  worth, which bundles mondays, tuesdays, etc and makes a unit. 
They 
  could have auctioned just next monday and separately next 
tuesday, but 
  they didn't. They made a conscious decision to sell a strip, 
which 
  homogenises the price. Is a friday worth more than a tuesday? Who 
  knows. If you watch the RB episode manufactured on tuesday time-
shifted 
  to friday is it worth more? If you watch it a year from now what 
is 
  that advert worth?
  
  And they chose the length of the strip as a risk / reward 
decision. 
  What if RB had sold a months worth of adverts as a block. If they 
had, 
  RB would have had less risk, though they may have received a 
lower 
  price. Risk/reward at work there too.
  
  Seems like there's a lot of blending going on in new media 
pricing. 
  This is not totally new science, however it is good to think 
about in 
  the context of vlog economics.
  
  
  
  
  On Feb 15, 2006, at 11:28 AM, Adam Quirk wrote:
  
On 2/15/06, robert a/k/a r robert.videoblogging@ wrote:
  
Obviously such variable pricing works because the number of 
seats in
the theatre is limited and they have a half life. It's not
 dissimilar
to the freshness of vegetables on the shelf at the grocer 
which 
   expire
or the freshness of media. If a seat in the theatre goes 
unsold it's
not recoverable. If a bunch of carrots go unsold they are not
recoverable.
  
What happens to the price for a show on the Internet once 
it is no
longer fresh, can it still be sold as new? Can a secondary 
market
develop and, if so, how will it work?
   One of the things that internet distribution has going for it 
is the 
   ability to time-shift the media, which cuts into this theory a 
little 
   bit.  Although for shows like Rocketboom that deal with current 
   events, or news shows, I guess the carrot analogy holds true. 
   Most stuff I watch doesn't necessarily lose value as time goes 
by.
  
   Sites like the NYtimes charge people for archive diving.  Maybe 
   there's something there.  The latest week's worth of media is 
freely 
   distributable by all the available means, but anything older 
than a 
   week costs X, where X is a reasonable price for a short video 
that 
   someone wants to watch.
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Pricing Media (difficult question)

2006-02-15 Thread Caution Zero

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  If the ad was generic enough it may have longer
 pertinence.  But I
 would think the ad would be less meaningful and
 valuable to the
 company paying for it in time.

seems like sponsorship campaigns would potentially
have a greater chance of maintaining value in this
time-shifting situation - associating your brand with
the brand halo of a RB has a value, even if you're not
selling a specific product.  one of the reasons
internet advertising at the level of raw banner ad
units is hard to effectively measure is that even if a
user doesn't click on the ad, there's value in just
getting your message or your brand in front of a user
in the first place.  

i can easily see google ad sense extended into
videoblogging by way of intelligent tagging, however. 
imagine a protocol that calls their ad server when you
start watching the file and has a relevant, contextual
ad to show you by the end of the file.  sure, in
today's world, shifting video to the ipod would break
that - but these video players will definitely not be
without wireless connectivity forever (if phones don't
simply usurp these devices' role altogether).

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[videoblogging] Re: Pricing Media (difficult question)

2006-02-15 Thread Chuck Olsen


There's definitely value in the archives, and in genres of information.

Now that I have a good library of Minnesota Stories videos, all categorized,
I'm going to make those categories prominent. It's something we take
for granted on text blogs, but I think if you call it something other than
Archives by Category (yawn) -- more like Videos by Category, people
will want to explore. 

That opens up an opportunity for sponsorship by type of content. Obviously
this doesn't apply to most vlogs, but my content is all over the map. A local
club might want to sponsor the music genre of videos, for example. 
It's basically the PBS model, where you see Science programming on WGBH
is brought to you by 3M.

I've actually got an opportunity brewing along these lines, for architecture/
urban development. It was triggered by a video I made about an old mill
building being renovated into riverfront condos in downtown Minneapolis. 
The real estate community really latched on to this and saw the power of
video, and how it could benefit them. 

Where it gets tricky is they want me to make a series of videos about
a new condo development.. follow the citizen meetings, the building, etc.
I'm interested in that kind of long-term video project, and having access.
But there's the huge question of editorial integrity and editorial control.
Sponsorship and content are ideally completely separate, though you see
it blurring all the time. It's something I'm struggling with... I think 
maintaining
editorial control is of utmost important if it's going to be on my vlog, instead
of a straight-up corporate video they put on their site. It also has much more
value to them being on my vlog, much more integrity and reach. Just as
it would if a news station followed a condo development, that has a lot of
influence. 

Anyway, the only way I can imagine doing it is if they sponsor that *type*
of vlog programming, which would include following the condo development
but also anything else related to architecture, housing issues, and so on.

(any thoughts??)

I also have no idea how to price something like this.

-chuck
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   If the ad was generic enough it may have longer
  pertinence.  But I
  would think the ad would be less meaningful and
  valuable to the
  company paying for it in time.
 
 seems like sponsorship campaigns would potentially
 have a greater chance of maintaining value in this
 time-shifting situation - associating your brand with
 the brand halo of a RB has a value, even if you're not
 selling a specific product.  one of the reasons
 internet advertising at the level of raw banner ad
 units is hard to effectively measure is that even if a
 user doesn't click on the ad, there's value in just
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: stickam

Cheers

We could split them up, I've got meeting and then something after work that runs later into the evening so not very avails today.

BTW, does the live Stickam feel like a vlogmap-inspired idea?

Should we put together a page with vloggers who want to be listed so peeps can switch channels and visually ping them? 




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On 2/15/06, robert a/k/a r [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Would it make sense to let each of the service providers know about
your page, invite them to comment / fix / update and let us know what
they're doing. I'n thinking the guys from Stickam are paddling
furiously to get their service going and not seeing all, if any (have 
they found this list yet?), of the posts.

Yeah, I was thinking of doing exactly that, but you're welcome to make the rounds for me if you want - it's already almost 6 pm over here and my fingers are tired! I'm on the lookout for other services that aren't on my list yet. I know there's about a zillion out there... 

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there is a node 101 channel I set up. It is open to the public, so if
you are in stickam, join in that channel and we can have ad hoc video
conferencingOn 2/15/06, robert a/k/a r [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
CheersWe could split them up, I've got meeting and then something after workthat runs later into the evening so not very avails today.BTW, does the live Stickam feel like a vlogmap-inspired idea?
Should we put together a page with vloggers who want to be listed sopeeps can switch channels and visually ping them?On Feb 15, 2006, at 11:43 AM, Deirdre Straughan wrote: On 2/15/06, robert a/k/a r 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would it make sense to let each of the service providers know about your page, invite them to comment / fix / update and let us know what
 they're doing. I'n thinking the guys from Stickam are paddling furiously to get their service going and not seeing all, if any (have they found this list yet?), of the posts.
 Yeah, I was thinking of doing exactly that, but you're welcome to make the rounds for me if you want - it's already almost 6 pm over here and my fingers are tired! I'm on the lookout for other services that
 aren't on my list yet. I know there's about a zillion out there... -- best regards, Deirdré Straughan www.beginningwithi.com
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: stickam

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Don't see where the channel thing woudl be?On 2/15/06, Ted Tagami [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

there is a node 101 channel I set up. It is open to the public, so if
you are in stickam, join in that channel and we can have ad hoc video
conferencingOn 2/15/06, robert a/k/a r
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
CheersWe could split them up, I've got meeting and then something after workthat runs later into the evening so not very avails today.BTW, does the live Stickam feel like a vlogmap-inspired idea?

Should we put together a page with vloggers who want to be listed sopeeps can switch channels and visually ping them?On Feb 15, 2006, at 11:43 AM, Deirdre Straughan wrote: On 2/15/06, robert a/k/a r
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would it make sense to let each of the service providers know about
your page, invite them to comment / fix / update and let us know what
they're doing. I'n thinking the guys from Stickam are paddling furiously to get their service going and not seeing all, if any (have they found this list yet?), of the posts.

Yeah, I was thinking of doing exactly that, but you're welcome to make the rounds for me if you want - it's already almost 6 pm over here and my fingers are tired! I'm on the lookout for other services that
aren't on my list yet. I know there's about a zillion out there... -- best regards, Deirdré Straughan
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[videoblogging] Re: stickam

It's a stickam chatroom:

http://stickam.com/editChatRoom.do?method=loadroomId=170594616

under Computers  Internet.

   :),

  Enric

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Deirdre Straughan
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 Don't see where the channel thing woudl be?
 
 On 2/15/06, Ted Tagami [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  there is a node 101 channel I set up. It is open to the public, so
if you
  are in stickam, join in that channel and we can have ad hoc video
  conferencing
 
  On 2/15/06, robert a/k/a r [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Cheers
  
   We could split them up, I've got meeting and then something
after work
   that runs later into the evening so not very avails today.
  
   BTW, does the live Stickam feel like a vlogmap-inspired idea?
  
   Should we put together a page with vloggers who want to be listed so
   peeps can switch channels and visually ping them?
  
  
  
  
   On Feb 15, 2006, at 11:43 AM, Deirdre Straughan wrote:
  
   
   
On 2/15/06, robert a/k/a r  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Would it make sense to let each of the service providers know
about
your page, invite them to comment / fix / update and let us
know what
  
they're doing. I'n thinking the guys from Stickam are paddling
furiously to get their service going and not seeing all, if
any (have
they found this list yet?), of the posts.
   
Yeah, I was thinking of doing exactly that, but you're welcome
to make
the rounds for me if you want - it's already almost 6 pm over
here and
my fingers are tired! I'm on the lookout for other services that
aren't on my list yet. I know there's about a zillion out there...
   
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Re: [videoblogging] sharing iMovie control between 2 macs

2006-02-15 Thread Ron Watson



Does anyone know of a way to control iMovie on one of my mactops from the other one?I would like to share control of iMovie between computers via my wireless network. That would be really cool.Later, RonOn Feb 14, 2006, at 1:15 AM, robert a/k/a r wrote:  Hey all  Just came across a new service called stickam.  http://www.stickam.com/stickam.jsp  In adition to hosting, they have a live streaming (flash) scheme where  you throw an object in your sidebar and broadcast live.  Is there any value for a vlogger to use their service?   -- cheers r  Deconstructing the status quo, collaboratively  my vlog: http://r.24x7.com good deal : http://foo.24x7.com  SPONSORED LINKS  Individual  Fireant  Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS  Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web.    To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]    Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. 




  
  
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[videoblogging] Re: SXSW - Who is bringing a camera?

2006-02-15 Thread JV

Hey everyone,

Thanks for everyone that has written. I will be pulling together a
tighter picture of what we are working on, but I wanted to give a
general update to the group.

We will be partnering with Gen Art for their pulse blog
(http://www.genartpulse.com/). They have lined up interviews at
various events and would like to film the interviews for the blog.
They will be getting press passes for vloggers that are part of the
collaboration and promote the vloggers on their site. The video you
shoot is yours and you can use it on your site also.

We have some more tentative details and are still working out the
logistics. If you are interested or have any suggestions, please email
me (jvinson at divxcorp dot com).

Cheers!

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  Richard! Yes many of us will be there throughout interactive...
  starting on the 10th-11th. It'd sure be awesome if you can swing it.
 
 
 Ah shucks guys, what can I say ... ok, the thing is that I was
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 be in Rolla on the 14th for a professor big wig meeting, and I've
decided
 who needs a big wig when you can hang out at SXSW with video
bloggers with
 REALLY big wigs, so I've made arrangements to miss the meeting and I'm
 coming for the whole SXSW interactive shubang ... arriving on Friday
10th
 and leaving Wednesday the 15th.
 
 By the way, Chuck, far be it from me to whine or anything, but you were
 supposed to send me one of your blogumentary DVDs like 6 months ago,
so I'll
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: stickam

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Re: [videoblogging] sharing iMovie control between 2 macs

2006-02-15 Thread Clint Sharp




Displaying video (especially DV encoded video, not highly compressed) over a wireless network isn't really feasible.ClintOn 2/15/06, Ron Watson
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Re: [videoblogging] sharing iMovie control between 2 macs

2006-02-15 Thread Tony Pelliccio




Considering that you get 54Mbps over a G network I'd imagine that you could push video without too much latency.   Clint Sharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Displaying video (especially DV encoded video, not highly compressed) over a wireless network isn't really feasible.ClintOn 2/15/06, Ron Watson   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Does anyone know of a way to control iMovie on one of my mactops from the other one?I would like to share control of iMovie between computers via my wireless network.That would be really cool. 
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Re: [videoblogging] sharing iMovie control between 2 macs

2006-02-15 Thread Clint Sharp




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DV#Video_compression36 Megabits per second for DV, on average. This doesn't include any sort of other display overhead.
Most wireless connections don't actually get 54 megabits of throughput (also, they're half duplex if I remember right). Trying to push 36 megabits through a wireless connection will cause lots of collisions and packet loss. It wouldn't make for a very good editing experience.
Secondly, he wants to be able to control iMovie, which means using something like a remote desktop technology, none of which support video very well (they're designed to minimize bandwidth for traditional PC use).
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Re: [videoblogging] stickam

i agree with josh except for this statement:If I have to come to your website to watch it, then it ain't really distributing.
depends how you look at 'distributing content'. i tend to look at it from a more loose and general side. web publishing and blogging are a form of content distribution. it may not be sending the content direct to an individual (email, rss reader, p2p client, client/server app etc) but its out there and has been distributed to the web... where anyone can consume it.
music labels distribute music on CD and are offered for purchase at stores. you have to go to the store to get it. films are distributed on film and dvd etc... you have to go to a theatre or to a store to consume the content.
'distribution' doesnt strictly mean direct-to-consumer-on-demand. and 'experience' doesnt necessarily degrade if the consumption is done via the web. i think you may be underestimating the big picture of networked media.
it's not all about aggregation.sullOn 2/14/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Now to argue my point from the other side... This may be a greatservice for some people. The basic step of putting video on a website
can be solved in a number of ways. This may be a nice widget for doingjust that.But your question was if this service had any value to videobloggers.To that question, my answer is no. It has little if any relationship
to videoblogging other than it being a way to embed a clip on my blogsidebar... that's about it. But as for distrbution of media, I don'treally see it there. If I have to come to your website to watch it,then it ain't really distributing.
-JoshOn 2/14/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't have any use for services that take freedom away from the creator. If I put my video in their service, can I get it back? They turn it
into Flash, where does my original go? Can I really distribute it using the shared standards of the blogosphere like RSS. Put it this way, why don't I post every text blog entry as a read-only
PDF *and* disallow anyone to download that document. That doesn't really help people distribute media. -Josh On 2/14/06, robert a/k/a r
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: josh -- yeah, the widget is cool. and they host video, audio and stills (i.e. services for distributing media).
is your problem with it the fact it's video is flash flv or arfe you unsupportive for another reason?-- cheers r
Deconstructing the status quo, collaboratively my vlog: http://r.24x7.com good deal : http://foo.24x7.com
On Feb 14, 2006, at 2:11 AM, Joshua Kinberg wrote: I don't see how this is helpful to videoblogging. Its a nice widget that i can stick on a webpage... seems more useful
to MySpace, Ebay Auctions, Craigslist pages... stuff like that, but has little to do with distribution of media and the supporting the shared standards of the blogosphere.
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http://www.stickam.com/stickam.jspIn adition to hosting, they have a live streaming (flash) scheme
where you throw an object in your sidebar and broadcast live.Is there any value for a vlogger to use their service?
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FireAnt is still the only aggregator around that supports playback of FLV
not all aggregators are desktop aggregators that download media. aggregation does not have to mean that. aggregation is also mefeedia and vlogdir etc... and if you bundle all aggregator services, then fireant is not the first to support flv ;-)
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I'm open to FLV... that's not what is being discussed here. DoesStickam distribute the FLV files? It doesn't look like it does...FireAnt is still the only aggregator around that supports playback ofFLV (not many people choose to implement FLash in such a distributable
way though... usually Flash is used to lock content onto the pageinstead of letting it flow and become distributed).FireAnt also supports direct links back to the blog source forcommenting and keeps all the RSS information in tact (unlike iTunes),
so I don't really get your comments there about disjointedness.Like I said, different tools support different user behaviors. FireAntis a great tool for consuming lots of video from distributed sources.
I'm not just saying that because I'm one of the creators. I'm sayingthat because its not uncommon for our users to be subscribed to 50-100different video feeds.Hey, diff'rent strokes for diff'rent folks... your question had to do
with whether Stickam had value to videoblogging, i still don't believeit does. For other applications, maybe so.-joshOn 2/14/06, robert a/k/a r
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's interesting. I find the experience of viewing a video within the original blog entry more satisfying than moving that video into an off-line state divorced from the host. When you break the vlog like
that you're unable to comment, you have disconnected the media. You can argue all you want about distribution meaning put it on a disconnected device but I call bullsh*t. It's completely valid to use
flv for distribution, in fact I'd argue it's more valid since it forces the media to remain connected to the source. Now you know I've tried Fireant on mac (and sent a donation:) from early on and support your company's goal, however I think we all need
to encourage others to participate and develop tools, not dismiss their efforts so quickly. I'm not using Fireant any longer, the experience is not producing any gain for me. That said, I'm not against it and might
come around to using it again at some point, but vlogs feels disconnected there. It looks like a good tool for transferring media to portable devices, but when that happens the vloggyness is no more.
Please don't take this as a dis to Fireant, it isn't. Just my $0.02 today. Let's encourage participation, let's be constructive when we see TOS items we would like to have a conversation
about, let's be open to flv and connected vlogging, let's think about the social opportunities for vlogging. That's why I'm always asking questions and interested in hearing about new services.
-- cheers r Deconstructing the status quo, collaboratively my vlog: http://r.24x7.com good deal :
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this is a cool app actually.i also want to point out again... thing slike vsocial.com and its VideoRoll tool. Its great and IS beneficial to the vlogosphere... along with other vsocial tools. 
i am also working on a similar feature, using RSS, flv and a flash player... playlists/channels multimedia wrapping etc slow but sure ;-)sullOn 2/14/06, 
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Re: [videoblogging] stickam

2006-02-15 Thread Jay dedman

 I'm suggesting we invite the innovators into the conversation, from the
 outside it looks like the Stickam peeps are on the ball and have ideas
 and tech know how.

agreed.
we should invite all new technology makers to this group.
i bet many of them are/have been here, but lurking.
Anyway we can draw them into a conversation is important.

Let's get them in here and talk. Just because NIH it'ss no reason to
not think they can help help expand the vlogging universe. It's not
about business competition, is it?

yep..it shouldnt be about business competition...not in this group.
This should be about getting the best tools for us creators.
We want to make sure companies treat us and our work with respect.

This is the biggest worry I see with these new Flash hosting companies...
they think becasue they give free hosting...they can do whatever they
want with it.
put on logos...lock it on a page...etc.
Free hosting is not enough.
Following Creative Commons Licensing is very important so we can
create a true remix culture.
if its all just streaming Flash...id be very worried.

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Re: [videoblogging] stickam

2006-02-15 Thread Joshua Kinberg

obviously I meant desktop aggregator.We also have a web-based aggregator... http://FireAnt.tv-JoshOn 2/15/06,
Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

FireAnt is still the only aggregator around that supports playback of FLV

not all aggregators are desktop aggregators that download media. aggregation does not have to mean that. aggregation is also mefeedia and vlogdir etc... and if you bundle all aggregator services, then fireant is not the first to support flv ;-)
On 2/14/06, Joshua Kinberg
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I'm open to FLV... that's not what is being discussed here. DoesStickam distribute the FLV files? It doesn't look like it does...FireAnt is still the only aggregator around that supports playback ofFLV (not many people choose to implement FLash in such a distributable
way though... usually Flash is used to lock content onto the pageinstead of letting it flow and become distributed).FireAnt also supports direct links back to the blog source forcommenting and keeps all the RSS information in tact (unlike iTunes),
so I don't really get your comments there about disjointedness.Like I said, different tools support different user behaviors. FireAntis a great tool for consuming lots of video from distributed sources.

I'm not just saying that because I'm one of the creators. I'm sayingthat because its not uncommon for our users to be subscribed to 50-100different video feeds.Hey, diff'rent strokes for diff'rent folks... your question had to do
with whether Stickam had value to videoblogging, i still don't believeit does. For other applications, maybe so.-joshOn 2/14/06, robert a/k/a r

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's interesting. I find the experience of viewing a video within the original blog entry more satisfying than moving that video into an off-line state divorced from the host. When you break the vlog like
that you're unable to comment, you have disconnected the media. You can argue all you want about distribution meaning put it on a disconnected device but I call bullsh*t. It's completely valid to use
flv for distribution, in fact I'd argue it's more valid since it forces the media to remain connected to the source. Now you know I've tried Fireant on mac (and sent a donation:) from
early on and support your company's goal, however I think we all need
to encourage others to participate and develop tools, not dismiss their efforts so quickly. I'm not using Fireant any longer, the experience is not producing any gain for me. That said, I'm not against it and might
come around to using it again at some point, but vlogs feels disconnected there. It looks like a good tool for transferring media to portable devices, but when that happens the vloggyness is no more.
Please don't take this as a dis to Fireant, it isn't. Just my $0.02 today. Let's encourage participation, let's be constructive when we see TOS items we would like to have a conversation

about, let's be open to flv and connected vlogging, let's think about the social opportunities for vlogging. That's why I'm always asking questions and interested in hearing about new services.
-- cheers r Deconstructing the status quo, collaboratively my vlog:
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yes, obviously. many people on this listjust clarifying for the collective. ;-)On 2/15/06, Joshua Kinberg
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obviously I meant desktop aggregator.We also have a web-based aggregator... http://FireAnt.tv-Josh
On 2/15/06,
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FireAnt is still the only aggregator around that supports playback of FLV

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early on and support your company's goal, however I think we all need
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come around to using it again at some point, but vlogs feels disconnected there. It looks like a good tool for transferring media to portable devices, but when that happens the vloggyness is no more.
Please don't take this as a dis to Fireant, it isn't. Just my $0.02 today. Let's encourage participation, let's be constructive when we see TOS items we would like to have a conversation

http://r.24x7.com good deal :
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Re: [videoblogging] New Video Blog

2006-02-15 Thread Jay dedman

 I just wanted to take this chance to introduce our new vlog (a weekly
 webcast), Noodle Scar, by Bonny and The Bui Brothers.
 http://noodlescar.com

hey I know you guys...
i like that people are making multiple videoblogs...
why not?
a videoblog for every project.

Did you make this with iWeb, apple's new blog maker?
i havent heard anyone speak about it yet.

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[videoblogging] Vegas 6.0d is out

2006-02-15 Thread WWWhatsup



ftp://download.sonypictures.com/current/vegas60d.exe

ftp://download.sonypictures.com/current/vegas60d-trial.exe


 
Notable Fixes/Changes in Version 6.0d

* Support for VR-mode DVD Handycam® camcorder discs has been improved. When 
importing video from Sony DVD Handycam discs in VR or Video mode, each chapter 
is now imported as a separate file.
* The MainConcept AVC/AAC codec has been added to Vegas. You can use this 
plug-in to import H.264 video in your projects and to render H.264 video 
(including support for HD frame sizes, two-pass encoding, main and baseline 
profiles, export to all common frame rates including NTSC, PAL, and 24p and 
Apple iPod® video format).

Please continue to use the Sony AVC/AAC encoder to create video for the PSP 
(PlayStation®Portable).
* Video quality has been improved for the Sony AVC/AAC encoder and rendering 
templates have been refined.
* Audio/video synchronization has been improved when reading certain QuickTime 
files.
* High-definition Windows Media Video rendering templates now use the Windows 
Media Audio 9 codec for improved device compatibility.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: NBC Olympic Blog Is Awesome

2006-02-15 Thread Michael Meiser

 On Feb 13, 2006, at 9:48 AM, Peter Van Dijck wrote:
 I just see a list of videos that pop up in a window that embeds WMV.
 No blog, no permalinks, no RSS...

 Peter

http://nbcolympics.com

This just pisses me off.. it's utter crap. Complete and utter CRAP. I  
don't know why it was even pointed out... it's the same damn crap  
you'd find on any major news site.

Normally I would just ignore such B.S. but what the hell today I feel  
like bitching. You've been forewarned. You might say I'm bitching  
because this needs to be said... because I'm doing under the heading  
NBC Olympic Blog Is Awesome when clearly it is anything but. I mean  
to slay it, and I don't intend to play nice or fair. Again, you've  
been forewarned.

Disclaimer: my general discussed are in no way shaped at any  
individual here, they are in fact aimed at the loathsome entity that  
is NBC, established media at large, and those that would propagate  
such travesties on humanity as this video interface. aka. please  
don't take this personally.

This site (nbcolympics.com) and it's video interface are full of  
needless and endless hoops which as usual make it needlessly  
inaccessible and all but unusable... and don't tell me it's not.  
People who don't get accessibility always say... I can watch a video  
on it... yeah, maybe you can even watch two or three... given 30  
minutes and a whole lot of frustration... but the experience is  
needlessly for shit.

I always respond to such people... yeah you should check out that on  
video of (insert celebrity name here)... yeah, it's really awesome..   
you've got to see it... go ahead... it's there on the website...  
don't mind me... I've got all the time in the world... just let me  
know when you've checked it out and i'll be happy to discuss how much  
said website rocks.

One of the many reasons why I LOVE videoblogging, blogging and  
podcastings is I like to think one of the things that it does is  
changes the expectation of what media is, how it should be consumed  
and who should have access to it in a very deep and profound way...  
that there is a better way.

Over time people will come to understand how shitty such websites as  
this NBC olympic website are and start to go elsewhere an  
elsewhere besides the P2P networks... which btw, do have extensive  
video coverage of the olympics... but I'd like to see such media on  
the open web where it belongs... where it can benefit society at  
large instead of just an elite few.

So, yeah, not only is it a pain in the ass to watch videos in NBC's  
crappy interface, but you cannot reference a video and therefore not  
send a url to your friends or discuss a video. It's a for shit  
interface.

When I see crap like this, as mentioned, most of the time I ignore  
it. But every once in a while I'm incited to take action..  to hack  
it apart and put it back together so people can actually USE the  
content... or perhaps just to bitch about it in the hopes that people  
will start to get what accessibility is really all about. ;)

Case in point.

Have any of you ever thought about just scrapping such a website's  
data and recompiling it into a vlog format with RSS feeds and  
comments? Which is to say, turning it back into a real live vlog,  
with actual comments and permalinks so people can enjoy it and talk  
about it and reference it?

I'm not sure this can be done with this NBC website... while someone  
said it was in Quicktime I don't see any QT videos... just all  
streaming windows media crap. There's to much material I think for  
one person to do it alone... but I think it'd be tremendously  
popular and in a media-hacker kind of way really give them a big  
positive slap in the face... like the bot that hacks your system only  
to apply security patches... sort of like heh! idiots! clue in!  
here's a tremendous amount of traffic and attention... please take it  
and learn something from it.

Of course they could and probably would threaten legal action,  
because how dare someone hot link to their videos or talk about  
them... Indeed the olympic committee has a tremendous history of  
suing anyone who mentions them... trademark and copyright law gone  
completely foul of it's intended purpose in the marketplace... beyond  
simply protecting such entities from malicious harm... to the point  
of suppressing free speech.

But there's nothing the olympic committee can sue about as long as  
you say unofficial clearly in the title... because enclosing a  
video is no less legal than linking directly to a video... and  
quoting short descriptive captions about the videos is perfectly  
legal too. These things are the very foundation of the blogging  
world, basic re-blogging in fact. I repeat, the foundations of  
blogging. Anyone trying to suppress such basic freedoms would stir a  
hornets nest of controversy.

See Streisand effect:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_Effect


Anyway, this is my idea of

Re: [videoblogging] Re: NBC Olympic Blog Is Awesome

2006-02-15 Thread Adam Quirk

This is slightly unrelated, but:Kinberg made the Google Video and Youtube greasemonkey scripts:http://www.joshkinberg.com/blog/files/google_video_getter.user.js
http://www.joshkinberg.com/blog/files/youtube_to_me.user.jsAnd Andreas made this for Sciencentral News (by request):
http://www.solitude.dk/stuff/sciencentral_video_getter.user.jsI want a script like these that runs on every site I visit.Maybe it scrubs the page for all the .mov, .wmv, and .mp4 files and presents a list of links to them?
Possible?I'll start taking up a collection if somebody's willing to build it.On 2/15/06, Michael Meiser
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Feb 13, 2006, at 9:48 AM, Peter Van Dijck wrote:
I just see a list of videos that pop up in a window that embeds WMV.
No blog, no permalinks, no RSS...

Peter

http://nbcolympics.com

This just pisses me off.. it's utter crap. Complete and utter CRAP. I
don't know why it was even pointed out... it's the same damn crap
you'd find on any major news site.

Normally I would just ignore such B.S. but what the hell today I feel
like bitching. You've been forewarned. You might say I'm bitching
because this needs to be said... because I'm doing under the heading
NBC Olympic Blog Is Awesome when clearly it is anything but. I mean
to slay it, and I don't intend to play nice or fair. Again, you've
been forewarned.

Disclaimer: my general discussed are in no way shaped at any
individual here, they are in fact aimed at the loathsome entity that
is NBC, established media at large, and those that would propagate
such travesties on humanity as this video interface. aka. please
don't take this personally.

This site (nbcolympics.com) and it's video interface are full of
needless and endless hoops which as usual make it needlessly
inaccessible and all but unusable... and don't tell me it's not.
People who don't get accessibility always say... I can watch a video
on it... yeah, maybe you can even watch two or three... given 30
minutes and a whole lot of frustration... but the experience is
needlessly for shit.

I always respond to such people... yeah you should check out that on
video of (insert celebrity name here)... yeah, it's really awesome..
you've got to see it... go ahead... it's there on the website...
don't mind me... I've got all the time in the world... just let me
know when you've checked it out and i'll be happy to discuss how much
said website rocks.

One of the many reasons why I LOVE videoblogging, blogging and
podcastings is I like to think one of the things that it does is
changes the expectation of what media is, how it should be consumed
and who should have access to it in a very deep and profound way...
that there is a better way.

Over time people will come to understand how shitty such websites as
this NBC olympic website are and start to go elsewhere an
elsewhere besides the P2P networks... which btw, do have extensive
video coverage of the olympics... but I'd like to see such media on
the open web where it belongs... where it can benefit society at
large instead of just an elite few.

So, yeah, not only is it a pain in the ass to watch videos in NBC's
crappy interface, but you cannot reference a video and therefore not
send a url to your friends or discuss a video. It's a for shit
interface.

When I see crap like this, as mentioned, most of the time I ignore
it. But every once in a while I'm incited to take action.. to hack
it apart and put it back together so people can actually USE the
content... or perhaps just to bitch about it in the hopes that people
will start to get what accessibility is really all about. ;)

Case in point.

Have any of you ever thought about just scrapping such a website's
data and recompiling it into a vlog format with RSS feeds and
comments? Which is to say, turning it back into a real live vlog,
with actual comments and permalinks so people can enjoy it and talk
about it and reference it?

I'm not sure this can be done with this NBC website... while someone
said it was in Quicktime I don't see any QT videos... just all
streaming windows media crap. There's to much material I think for
one person to do it alone... but I think it'd be tremendously
popular and in a media-hacker kind of way really give them a big
positive slap in the face... like the bot that hacks your system only
to apply security patches... sort of like heh! idiots! clue in!
here's a tremendous amount of traffic and attention... please take it
and learn something from it.

Of course they could and probably would threaten legal action,
because how dare someone hot link to their videos or talk about
them... Indeed the olympic committee has a tremendous history of
suing anyone who mentions them... trademark and copyright law gone
completely foul of it's intended purpose in the marketplace... beyond
simply protecting such entities from malicious harm... to the point
of suppressing free speech.

But there's nothing

Re: [videoblogging] Re: NBC Olympic Blog Is Awesome

2006-02-15 Thread Joshua Kinberg

doesn't webjay do this?-JoshOn 2/15/06, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

This is slightly unrelated, but:Kinberg made the Google Video and Youtube greasemonkey scripts:
http://www.joshkinberg.com/blog/files/google_video_getter.user.js
http://www.joshkinberg.com/blog/files/youtube_to_me.user.js
And Andreas made this for Sciencentral News (by request):
http://www.solitude.dk/stuff/sciencentral_video_getter.user.jsI want a script like these that runs on every site I visit.Maybe it scrubs the page for all the .mov, .wmv, and .mp4 files and presents a list of links to them?
Possible?I'll start taking up a collection if somebody's willing to build it.On 2/15/06,
Michael Meiser
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Feb 13, 2006, at 9:48 AM, Peter Van Dijck wrote:
I just see a list of videos that pop up in a window that embeds WMV.
No blog, no permalinks, no RSS...

Peter

http://nbcolympics.com

This just pisses me off.. it's utter crap. Complete and utter CRAP. I
don't know why it was even pointed out... it's the same damn crap
you'd find on any major news site.

Case in point.

[videoblogging] Re: NBC Olympic Blog Is Awesome

2006-02-15 Thread wtrainbow

There's a Firefox extension called Web Developer that will give the media 
info on a page 
-  among many other things. It's an incredible tool if you do any Web design or 
development.

https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=60application=firefox

Will
http://www.tiny-tube.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I thought webjay was for making playlists of media hotlinks that you already
 know/have?
 
 I was talking about scouring the page for all the media files, each time I
 load a page in a browser, no matter where I am, a list of links pops up to
 all the media files on the page.
 
 A browser plugin.
 
 If Webjay does it, I'm sold.  Just didn't think it did.
 
 On 2/15/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  doesn't webjay do this?
 
  -Josh
 
 
  On 2/15/06, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   This is slightly unrelated, but:
  
   Kinberg made the Google Video and Youtube greasemonkey scripts:
   http://www.joshkinberg.com/blog/files/google_video_getter.user.js
   http://www.joshkinberg.com/blog/files/youtube_to_me.user.js
  
   And Andreas made this for Sciencentral News (by request):
   http://www.solitude.dk/stuff/sciencentral_video_getter.user.js
  
   I want a script like these that runs on every site I visit.
  
   Maybe it scrubs the page for all the .mov, .wmv, and .mp4 files and
   presents a list of links to them?
  
   Possible?
  
   I'll start taking up a collection if somebody's willing to build it.
  
  
   On 2/15/06, Michael Meiser  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  On Feb 13, 2006, at 9:48 AM, Peter Van Dijck wrote:
 I just see a list of videos that pop up in a window that embeds WMV.
 No blog, no permalinks, no RSS...

 Peter
   
http://nbcolympics.com
   
This just pisses me off.. it's utter crap. Complete and utter CRAP. I
   
don't know why it was even pointed out... it's the same damn crap
you'd find on any major news site.
   
Normally I would just ignore such B.S. but what the hell today I feel
   
like bitching. You've been forewarned. You might say I'm bitching
because this needs to be said... because I'm doing under the heading
NBC Olympic Blog Is Awesome when clearly it is anything but. I mean
   
to slay it, and I don't intend to play nice or fair. Again, you've
been forewarned.
   
Disclaimer: my general discussed are in no way shaped at any
individual here, they are in fact aimed at the loathsome entity that
is NBC, established media at large, and those that would propagate
such travesties on humanity as this video interface. aka. please
don't take this personally.
   
This site (nbcolympics.com) and it's video interface are full of
needless and endless hoops which as usual make it needlessly
inaccessible and all but unusable... and don't tell me it's not.
People who don't get accessibility always say... I can watch a video
   
on it... yeah, maybe you can even watch two or three... given 30
minutes and a whole lot of frustration... but the experience is
needlessly for shit.
   
I always respond to such people... yeah you should check out that on
   
video of (insert celebrity name here)... yeah, it's really awesome..
   
you've got to see it... go ahead... it's there on the website...
don't mind me... I've got all the time in the world... just let me
know when you've checked it out and i'll be happy to discuss how much
   
said website rocks.
   
One of the many reasons why I LOVE videoblogging, blogging and
podcastings is I like to think one of the things that it does is
changes the expectation of what media is, how it should be consumed
and who should have access to it in a very deep and profound way...
that there is a better way.
   
Over time people will come to understand how shitty such websites as
this NBC olympic website are and start to go elsewhere an
elsewhere besides the P2P networks... which btw, do have extensive
video coverage of the olympics... but I'd like to see such media on
the open web where it belongs... where it can benefit society at
large instead of just an elite few.
   
So, yeah, not only is it a pain in the ass to watch videos in NBC's
crappy interface, but you cannot reference a video and therefore not
send a url to your friends or discuss a video. It's a for shit
interface.
   
When I see crap like this, as mentioned, most of the time I ignore
it. But every once in a while I'm incited to take action..  to hack
it apart and put it back together so people can actually USE the
content... or perhaps just to bitch about it in the hopes that people
   
will start to get what accessibility is really all about. ;)
   
Case in point.
   
Have any of you ever thought about just scrapping such a website's
data and recompiling it into a vlog format with RSS

Re: [videoblogging] Re: NBC Olympic Blog Is Awesome

2006-02-15 Thread Michael Meiser

I use it on occasion, didn't notice that feature though.

On Feb 15, 2006, at 10:46 PM, wtrainbow wrote:

There's a Firefox extension called Web Developer that will give the  
media info on a page
-  among many other things. It's an incredible tool if you do any Web  
design or
development.

https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php? 
id=60application=firefox

Will
http://www.tiny-tube.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I thought webjay was for making playlists of media hotlinks that  
 you already
 know/have?

 I was talking about scouring the page for all the media files, each  
 time I
 load a page in a browser, no matter where I am, a list of links  
 pops up to
 all the media files on the page.

 A browser plugin.

 If Webjay does it, I'm sold.  Just didn't think it did.

 On 2/15/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 doesn't webjay do this?

 -Josh


 On 2/15/06, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This is slightly unrelated, but:

 Kinberg made the Google Video and Youtube greasemonkey scripts:
 http://www.joshkinberg.com/blog/files/google_video_getter.user.js
 http://www.joshkinberg.com/blog/files/youtube_to_me.user.js

 And Andreas made this for Sciencentral News (by request):
 http://www.solitude.dk/stuff/sciencentral_video_getter.user.js

 I want a script like these that runs on every site I visit.

 Maybe it scrubs the page for all the .mov, .wmv, and .mp4 files and
 presents a list of links to them?

 Possible?

 I'll start taking up a collection if somebody's willing to build it.


 On 2/15/06, Michael Meiser  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Feb 13, 2006, at 9:48 AM, Peter Van Dijck wrote:
 I just see a list of videos that pop up in a window that embeds  
 WMV.
 No blog, no permalinks, no RSS...

 Peter

 http://nbcolympics.com

 This just pisses me off.. it's utter crap. Complete and utter  
 CRAP. I

 don't know why it was even pointed out... it's the same damn crap
 you'd find on any major news site.

 Normally I would just ignore such B.S. but what the hell today I  
 feel

 like bitching. You've been forewarned. You might say I'm bitching
 because this needs to be said... because I'm doing under the  
 heading
 NBC Olympic Blog Is Awesome when clearly it is anything but. I  
 mean

 to slay it, and I don't intend to play nice or fair. Again, you've
 been forewarned.

 Disclaimer: my general discussed are in no way shaped at any
 individual here, they are in fact aimed at the loathsome entity  
 that
 is NBC, established media at large, and those that would propagate
 such travesties on humanity as this video interface. aka. please
 don't take this personally.

 This site (nbcolympics.com) and it's video interface are full of
 needless and endless hoops which as usual make it needlessly
 inaccessible and all but unusable... and don't tell me it's not.
 People who don't get accessibility always say... I can watch a  
 video

 on it... yeah, maybe you can even watch two or three... given 30
 minutes and a whole lot of frustration... but the experience is
 needlessly for shit.

 I always respond to such people... yeah you should check out  
 that on

 video of (insert celebrity name here)... yeah, it's really  
 awesome..

 you've got to see it... go ahead... it's there on the website...
 don't mind me... I've got all the time in the world... just let me
 know when you've checked it out and i'll be happy to discuss how  
 much

 said website rocks.

 One of the many reasons why I LOVE videoblogging, blogging and
 podcastings is I like to think one of the things that it does is
 changes the expectation of what media is, how it should be consumed
 and who should have access to it in a very deep and profound way...
 that there is a better way.

 Over time people will come to understand how shitty such  
 websites as
 this NBC olympic website are and start to go elsewhere an
 elsewhere besides the P2P networks... which btw, do have extensive
 video coverage of the olympics... but I'd like to see such media on
 the open web where it belongs... where it can benefit society at
 large instead of just an elite few.

 So, yeah, not only is it a pain in the ass to watch videos in NBC's
 crappy interface, but you cannot reference a video and therefore  
 not
 send a url to your friends or discuss a video. It's a for shit
 interface.

 When I see crap like this, as mentioned, most of the time I ignore
 it. But every once in a while I'm incited to take action..  to hack
 it apart and put it back together so people can actually USE the
 content... or perhaps just to bitch about it in the hopes that  
 people

 will start to get what accessibility is really all about. ;)

 Case in point.

 Have any of you ever thought about just scrapping such a website's
 data and recompiling it into a vlog format with RSS feeds and
 comments? Which is to say, turning it back into a real live vlog,
 with actual comments and permalinks so people can enjoy

[videoblogging] would you consider this a vlog?

2006-02-15 Thread Digital

it is something other than a vlog.. but what would you call it?

http://www.stickam.com/profile/television_truth_machine







 
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[videoblogging] Re: SXSW - Who is bringing a camera?

2006-02-15 Thread Aaron Valdez

Forget the cameras unless you have some kind of fanny-cam (trademark
all rights reserved). you'll be too busy double-fisting lone star beer
and shootin people in the face to operate video equipment!  Get to
Sam's BBQ (wi-fi services currently unavailble though they have a
zenith tv from the late 70's that mysteriously only receives Jerry
Springer). mmm mmm guud.  

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[videoblogging] Re: would you consider this a vlog?

2006-02-15 Thread Chuck Olsen


I'm sure any rigid insistence that a vlog be video in a blog format is
rapidly falling apart at the seams. :-)

i don't know what you call this... is it anything more than webcams
and chat embedded in a web page? this particular feed wasn't live 
when i checked so there was nothing to watch. but i did see some
cheesy karaoke and i heckled from the chat. the bartender said
i should be nice.

-chuck
http://mnstories.com

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[videoblogging] Re: New Video Blog

2006-02-15 Thread Vu Bui

Jay!  Yeah, we're trying something new, something that we weren't able to do 
with our 
individual videoblogs.

We originally did try using iWeb, it looked so promising.  It is literally the 
easiest web site 
generation application I have ever seen.  Unfortunately with its simplicity and 
ease of use 
comes a lack of features for the more seasoned user... the big problem for us 
was the 
fact that there is no built-in comments feature.  There are other rather 
important features 
it is lacking, including the ability to change the photos that link to the 
videos, it is 
currently just pulling the first frame of the video from what I could tell.  It 
is also quite a 
pain if you aren't a .Mac user, as you have to republish to a folder each time 
you make a 
change or new post to the site.  This means that the dates on all the files for 
your site are 
updated, so if you use a synchronization feature such as that in Dreamweaver, 
it thinks 
that everything needs to be uploaded... which can be time consuming once your 
site is 
large.

I think that iWeb is a great tool for the novice looking at publishing their 
words, sounds or 
videos on the Web in the least amount of time, both for the learning curve and 
for the 
actual work put into maintenance... but only if the user is a .Mac subscriber.  
That's when 
it really does shine. Then again I only spent about an hour and a half with it 
before 
deciding it wasn't ready for prime-time... so maybe it does more that I thought.

The templates are, as with all things Apple, beautiful in their simplicity, 
though... and so I 
tried my best to emulate the look for Noodle Scar by painstakingly (since I'm 
not fluent in 
html) modifying one of the Blogger templates.  Good eye in noticing that... 

Vu

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 hey I know you guys...
 i like that people are making multiple videoblogs...
 why not?
 a videoblog for every project.
 
 Did you make this with iWeb, apple's new blog maker?
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: New Video Blog

2006-02-15 Thread Joshua Kinberg

 There are other rather important features
 it is lacking, including the ability to change the photos that link to the 
 videos, it is
 currently just pulling the first frame of the video from what I could tell.

Did you try setting a poster frame for the video?
In QT Pro, you can drag the slider to the desired timecode and go to:
View-Set Poster Frame.

 
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=QuickTime%20Player/7.0/en/c3qt21.html


-Josh


On 2/15/06, Vu Bui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Jay!  Yeah, we're trying something new, something that we weren't able to do 
 with our
 individual videoblogs.

 We originally did try using iWeb, it looked so promising.  It is literally 
 the easiest web site
 generation application I have ever seen.  Unfortunately with its simplicity 
 and ease of use
 comes a lack of features for the more seasoned user... the big problem for 
 us was the
 fact that there is no built-in comments feature.  There are other rather 
 important features
 it is lacking, including the ability to change the photos that link to the 
 videos, it is
 currently just pulling the first frame of the video from what I could tell.  
 It is also quite a
 pain if you aren't a .Mac user, as you have to republish to a folder each 
 time you make a
 change or new post to the site.  This means that the dates on all the files 
 for your site are
 updated, so if you use a synchronization feature such as that in Dreamweaver, 
 it thinks
 that everything needs to be uploaded... which can be time consuming once your 
 site is
 large.

 I think that iWeb is a great tool for the novice looking at publishing their 
 words, sounds or
 videos on the Web in the least amount of time, both for the learning curve 
 and for the
 actual work put into maintenance... but only if the user is a .Mac 
 subscriber.  That's when
 it really does shine. Then again I only spent about an hour and a half with 
 it before
 deciding it wasn't ready for prime-time... so maybe it does more that I 
 thought.

 The templates are, as with all things Apple, beautiful in their simplicity, 
 though... and so I
 tried my best to emulate the look for Noodle Scar by painstakingly (since I'm 
 not fluent in
 html) modifying one of the Blogger templates.  Good eye in noticing that...

 Vu

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  hey I know you guys...
  i like that people are making multiple videoblogs...
  why not?
  a videoblog for every project.
 
  Did you make this with iWeb, apple's new blog maker?
  i havent heard anyone speak about it yet.
 
  Jay








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[videoblogging] Ogg Theora Usage and Support?

2006-02-15 Thread Charles Iliya Krempeaux




Hello,I just joined this mailing list, so please excuse me if this has already come up before. (I tried searching the mailing list archive, but Yahoo! seemed to have trouble completing the search.)I'm doing a little reseach, and I was wondering what kind of Ogg 
Theora usage and support there currently is.(Not sure if anyone has this info, but) What percentage of vloggers are making Ogg Theora video available. What vlog aggregating software can play Ogg Theora videos?
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