John and Sieghard, I agree with you guys completely. Like it says in my Skype
mood message, some blind people are so spoiled. And it’s true, because look at
this thread. We should be lucky that Apple is giving us a pretty good screen
reader. I’m just tired of reading threads about people
Hi Les,
You're more than welcomed.
With Sports selected, there is no option to change the date and time. This
is not a VoiceOver glitch. This option does not appear on the screen
because, based on my cursory exploration of the Sports view, it lists all
the events for a particular day.
I
Hi, after this lengthy but interesting summary, the thread can be declared
closed, all that can be said, has been, more than once I reckon, I stopped
reading after a while.
I keep a Nokia with Talks, it's reliable because it's simple. There's
mileage in keeping a gismo that does it's
True, but what a waste of bandwidth when touching the top of the screen
where the clock is can tell the time.
No worse than all those old talking clocks I had where you had to actually
press a button.
- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca
To:
Agreed, pity this couldn't be turned off and something else turned on.
Makes you wonder what the development engineers are thinking of when they
change these things, apparently for the sake of it.
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From: Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com
To:
I observe that we are still on 7.0.3, the bit of interest being the 0. I
think 4 got up to 4.5.something, can't remember what 6 got up to; 6.1.3, I
still have it; so no Major updates yet, 7.1 should clear all the current
issues, so long as they don't introduce new ones.
RobH, waiting for
Hi:
I'm wondering if my questions are actually reaching the list, I get them
back, but not a single responce, which is very unusual for this list.
One question was about incomplete albums downloaded to my phone, I
downloaded a large collection of christmas music and was told that 5 of the
well said Sieghard, can't agree more with your post.
Rob, iOS 6 got up to 6.14 although i think 6.14 only for iPhone 5 users.
Hmm, all these 53++ messages let me think of a business opportunity.
I reckon i can hunt down some of the Nokia button phones and i also have a
friend that was a Talks
That's a fair bit of hyperbole: iOS4 only ever got up to 4.35 and no iOS since
has gone beyond a variant of x.1. The way Apple does these things appears to
have changed, much like Android in the last two years in the far less
incremental introduction of features, as much for the psychological
Hi,
I’ve been looking for a TV guide app that works in Canada.
Anyone know of one that works well with voice over?
Jen
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It seems to appear at different times for different people. I had the
purchase options on my phone the very first day but it may not have
appeared on your phone yet. Just wait until it does and keep using it
free until you get the notification. Then double tap on the option
you want and begin
Hi DJ,
I just put zoom into my rotor, but can't seem to make it have an effect. I have
never tried using zoom before as it used to conflict with voice-over I believe.
So do you or anyone else have a suggestion as to how I make it operate?
Thanks,
Sandy.
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On 11 Nov 2013, at
Hi David,
Thanks for this. That’s interesting to know. On the surface, this doesn’t
sound like a terribly complex problem. They could add a cooling system to the
charging pad to help dissipate some of the heat I would think. But, I am far
from a thermal engineer. hahaha. Like Sieghard
Hi,
Change for the sake of it? With respect, it sounds like common sense to me.
Voiceover always read the first item on the screen below the status bar. When
on the lock screen, this is usually the time. This is why we hear the time
read when we wake our devices. Now, in IOS 7, when
Hello the list,
This weekend, being on my own, my partner being away, I had a very difficult
situation to deal with.
I had four multipage forms to fill in and digitally send. Because I have
decided to use my iPhone as my main computer, I didn't have access to the
functionality of my partners
Shean, sprint said it does not happen to all with 4s, but at least once a day.
Question whether this is said to make me feel better, but it is a definite
problem. Thank goodness yours has not gotten ill! Smiles. On the good side, I
get to use my unlimited data I pay for! Hehehe! By the way, if
Does anyone know how to stop iTunes from asking me to sign in at all kinds of
random times? I have signed in with my password and all is well until it asks
me again with no real pattern I can discern as of yet. Thanks for help in
advance.
Reggie and Allegra
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If I have the music player on while my phone is locked I rather have
access to the player functions than hear the time anyway. For this
reason I don't consider it broken. Hopefully Apple comes up with 7.1
soon so that we can stop listening to people complaining all the time.
Although I'm sure
Dear List,this is related to the discussion about using an Iphone without a
sim card, to which the anser was yes you can use it without a sim card but
you need one to activate it at the beginning. This makes sense as it is a
phone after all but what about a wifi and cellular ipad? What if you
Hi Tessa,
I bought an album on my phone a while back and while all 10 songs downloaded
on my phone only song 10 of 10 downloaded in iTunes on my computer.
I first went to the Store menu in iTunes and tried the option Check for
available Downloads, but it kept telling me All purchases have been
Sara, sorry to hear of your loss. I lost my retired Leader dog 3 weeks
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Hello Lee,
I think you might need a SIM in a 3G/LTE capable iPad, but normally when you
buy one you tell them which carrier you want a SIM for and a SIM will be in
the iPad which you can activate whenever you want. I bought my Mom an iPad 2
here in Canada I think just over 2 years ago now and I
Hi again,
I forgot to include this before. Yes, you can use one Apple wireless
keyboard with 2 devices. If you want to use it with your iPad, just make
sure you turn off Bluetooth on your iPhone and vice versa.
Regards,
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Hi,
I agree with the comments made here concerning Apple as opposed to the other
phones on the market. Apple has done quite a lot to make its phone work for
blind people and today leads the accessibility race by a wide margin. In
part, iPhones are accessible because blind people made it happen.
Dear List if turning the rotor changes the effects of up and down flicks
then isn't there a conflict with the actions menu which also uses up and
down flicks? How does it know when you want delete etc or headings etc.In
ee-mails I have read things like turn your rotor to paste, or make sure your
Hi all. I don't know if anyone else has experienced this or it has been
discussed on this list but when I am using safari, I am having instances when I
am flicking down the page from line to line that voice over just cuts out. If I
wait a little bit it comes back but then it really acts up and
Yep I experience this and also experience voiceover skipping lines when swiping
pages in safari.
Donna
On Nov 11, 2013, at 10:27 AM, Brent Harbolt bharb...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
Hi all. I don't know if anyone else has experienced this or it has been
discussed on this list but when I am
No There isn't a rotor other then the standard one You won't see actions
until you get in to the inbox of the mail app and the list of messages then
turn the rotor to actions
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From: Lee Jones
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 9:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
First, open the folder. Then swipe to the right and then back left to the
folder name. Do a single tap and hold. You should then be able to edit the
folder name and, it looks like though I have not tried it, to edit all of the
app names in the folder.
I believe this is a change with IOS 7, but
I was interested in this post, since I didn't realise how this worked. My only
comment is that quite often you don't understand that VO has crashed until you
start feeling around the screen!
Carol P
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On 11 Nov 2013, at 02:13 am, David Chittenden
Thanks David, this fixed it. Saving this message in case it happens
again. I was listening to music and ansered a call. When I tapped the
end button that's when VO stopped talking.
Ward
On 11/10/2013 8:34 PM, David Chittenden wrote:
On your home screen, try doing a two-finger flick up to
Have you found a fix for this yet Donna?
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: problem with voice over cutting out while using safari
Yep I experience this and also experience voiceover skipping
Hello,
Whoa!! Hold on a second. lol. The law suit you speak of was filed in 2006.
By this time, Apple had already put out Mac OSX 10.4 Tiger which contained the
Voiceover screen reader. The courts Ruled in favor of the NFB lead suit in
September 2007. By this time, the iPhone had only
I've run into that issue a few times. Kind of annoying for sure, but it's
always just gone away as a problem after a few days. I have the sense it came
after iOS upgrades, but am not confident about that.
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I ask the same question should I go for a wifi cellular model but that
is unlikely. Thanks for any responses.
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On 11/11/2013 14:35, Lee Jones wrote:
Dear List,this is related to the discussion about using an Iphone without a
sim card, to
Just an Apple fluke I guess. Sorry for the one liner but can't think of
any other reason.
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On 11/11/2013 14:08, Regina Alvarado wrote:
Does anyone know how to stop iTunes from asking me to sign in at all kinds of
random times? I have
Hello Tessa,
Your messages are getting through to the list.
I, for one, have never downloaded an entire album from iTunes Store. I'm an
Amazon MP3 man.
I did purchase a couple of episodes of the Twilight zone on my iPHone 4,
last year or so and it has been a pain in the you-know-what to keep
Yes, when nothing happens, the usual reaction is that we start getting worried.
So, rather than waiting, we start moving our finger around the screen, then
pressing the home button, then pressing the power button, then trying to
trigger a reboot, all in the space of a few seconds; which feels
Just a reminder about the iPhone conference set for tonight, Monday, November
11, at 8:00 PM Eastern. The number to call is 218-936-2070, room 5.
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What's verbosity David! I hadn't expected such a lengthy answer! I will try to
remember that if I crash again…
Carol P
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On 11 Nov 2013, at 05:16 pm, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, when nothing happens, the usual reaction is that we start
Thanks Jen! I knew there was a simple solution, I just couldn't find
it... Thanks for helping me find it!
Brian M
On 11/10/13, Jennie Facer jennie.fa...@gmail.com wrote:
If you go into an edit field such as search, then use your roter to get to
typing mode then flick up or down to get to
Hi list,
please does anyone know if there is a smaller iphone 4 charger available
so that I can put it in my pocket/purse/fannypack and take it with me
when I am travelling somewhere?
Of course, I have regular iphone charger, but it happened many times I
forgot it at home.
I also have external
I agree. Apple's iOS has created a system whereby we have a better than 50%
chance that any app we purchase will be at least partially accessible. This is
far better than any other platform on the market, whilst respecting the app
developer's right to develop and sell any type of app which
If you are using iTunes on your computer, iTunes Store will automatically let
you download the music directly to your computer so long as you are using the
same ID. If you got the music onto your iPhone through some other means, this
option would most likely not be available to you. Before
instead of having a going nowhere discussion about this why don't you all
who have such strong feelings express them to the apple accessibility folks.
I believe their email address is accessibil...@apple.com
Fred Olver
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Yes, any plug to USB charger will work. Some USB wall chargers, for the US
power system, have prongs which can flip down into the charger. I have a couple
of these that came with motorola devices.
David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
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Hi all.
This is a little scary though I do have a landline phone from Charter I can use
but rarely do. I cannot dial out on either of my iPhones; I get a message about
the call not being able to be completed as dialed but the message says it's
from US Celular and I am with Verizon. I think my
Hey Guys! I was having a rough day. I had got a number of text messages with
phone numbers that I had to call but could not courtesy Apple. Then I called my
girl friend and thought had ended the call. She heard what I was talking with
my buddy. So that was a mess. Then I made a long distance
Michael I don't agree with what you are suggesting. Why should Apple
force a program which is of no use to the blind be forced to implaent
accessibility features?
On 11/11/13, Fred Olver goodfo...@charter.net wrote:
instead of having a going nowhere discussion about this why don't you all
who
What this message means, if I remember the US system correctly, is the phone is
unable to receive any signal from your carrier's tower, so it is accessing any
available tower. By law, all carrier's towers must transmit emergency calls for
free. Therefore, you are being told that you can make an
David and all?
where can I get the charger you have mentioned?
Thanks.
Maria
On 11.11.2013 19:10, David Chittenden wrote:
Yes, any plug to USB charger will work. Some USB wall chargers, for the US
power system, have prongs which can flip down into the charger. I have a couple
of these that
Actually, it does help to say you are not experiencing a given problem. Not
only does this tell people what to expect if, say, they haven’t upgraded to
some new version, but it lets you know that maybe the problem is not in the
phone. For instance, when I first got my iPhone, Voiceover would
Well yes, I kind of figured it was something like that. But what would be
causing it and is there anything I can do about it? I am in a city, not in a
rural area so it isn't that I'm somewhere where there shouldn't be any
available towers.
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May the words of my mouth
and the
I would try stores such as Radio Shack. Like I said, I received the chargers as
part of motorola product packages.
I no longer reside in the US, so cannot say directly who may sell such chargers.
David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
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The only thing I can think of doing about it is to call your cellular provider
using your land line and reporting the lack of signal. This will notify them of
the necessity of getting a technician out to fix the tower.
David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21
Hello Cheryl, I also live in the city and I've had this issue before it
normally happens when the towers are down. So the only thing she can do is
reported to Verizon.
Joseph Hudson
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On Nov 11, 2013, at 12:31 PM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com
In addition, this list is for us to help each other resolve problems we are
having. So, writing to the list is implying you are having a problem with the
technology, not implying you are merely venting your frustrations.
As to your iPhone not disconnecting, twice, this tells me you want to
I don't think this is what you're saying, but I think we need to be
careful here. Accessibility isn't something that were given as a charity
and something we should feel grateful for when someone provides it.
Accessibility is a right that we should be demanding. Of course, we
should be
Maria,
It probably would be a good idea to mention that you are in Slovakia when you
ask for product recommendations and suggestions where you can buy particular
products. I can't tell you either where you can buy a charger except that you
should be able to do so at any electronics store and
What do you mean the old system of doing a double tap and hold seems to
work but does not? It still works on my iPhone 4S running IOS 7.0.3.
On 11/11/2013 09:38 AM, Tom Frank wrote:
First, open the folder. Then swipe to the right and then back left to
the folder name. Do a single tap and hold.
Hello all,
I just thought I would buy the charger from Ebay, but I don't know
whether it is safe enough to buy chargers there since they are sold by
sellers from different countries and another reason is that I am not
sure it fits to the power outlet we have in Slovakia.
Thanks.
Maria
On
You can change the order of items in your roter by going into Settings
- General - Accessibility - VoiceOver On - Roter. Whether items show
up in your roter is context sensitive, so for example you won't see the
headings or links option if you're not in an app that has headings or
links. Ditto
Yes, that is right. I used my almost-nver-used landline, which just payed for
itself, and called verizon. After some testing and trying, we decided that my
phones are a part of a market with tower problems right now. I thought it might
be that since both of my phones were having the same
can someone explain this when it says to buy credits, what does this actually
mean is it not an outright price for the app? Carol
On 11 Nov 2013, at 04:37, Wayne gmail ewaynebrum...@gmail.com wrote:
If a developer waited until the app was perfect in the mind of every
customer before releasing
Won't Apple still sell the charger for the 4 as it also works with the
4s and the 3gs matter of fact.
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On 11/11/2013 19:08, Mária Orovčíková wrote:
Hello all,
I just thought I would buy the charger from Ebay, but I don't know
whether it is
Clearly, Christopher, you don't understand the difference. You are
comparing apples to oranges.
DVD Audio Extractor nor Tivo incur any costs when you extract audio from one
of your DVD's or record a movie. All that activity takes place locally, it
doesn't matter to them whether you extract
Exactly. Would love to play Candy Crush, Pet Rescue Saga and all that,
but to be honest they cannot be made accessible due to the nature of the
games. Am jealous of my sighted peers though grin.
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On 11/11/2013 18:16, John Diakogeorgiou
In some ways I'm jealous but at the same time I''m glad since I would
be wasting to much time playing games.
On 11/11/13, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote:
Exactly. Would love to play Candy Crush, Pet Rescue Saga and all that,
but to be honest they cannot be made accessible due to the
True, and you're not the first person to tell me how clear it is that I
miss the obvious.
A few subtle distinctions though. I was responding to people who were
making blanket statements that you can't support on going costs with a
one time fee business model. DVD Audio Extractor does provide
Hi all,
As the subject asks, is there an app for Live Mail, Hotmail etc that is
accessible? I could just try a few but thought asking the question first
wouldn't hurt.
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No, buying credits means buying service from the app. The price of the app in
the app store is free. Credits permit you to submit pictures if you do not want
to pay the $9.95 subscription fee.
David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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Hi,
When I do the three finger double tap to turn Zoom on can you make it
bigger or is there only one size Zoom is?
Thanks in advance
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Well if you just want to use Hotmail set it up in the stock Mail app
under settings. When adding an account choose outlook.com account.
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On 11/11/2013 20:26, Dean Wilcox wrote:
Hi all,
As the subject asks, is there an app for Live Mail,
Sorry, but I'm not sure I understand your question.
One accessible email client that works with Hot Mail is the native email
client that comes with IOS. I don't use Hot Mail myself, but I found
this link on setting up the native email client in IOS to work with Hot
Mail:
Hi Carol,
No, the app continues to be free, but you pay for using the service. You
really have to think of this as a service not an app because all the app
does is to provide an interface for taking the picture and passing it on to
Tap Tap See's servers. Here the picture is now recognized, quite
Hi Dean,
As Christopher pointed out, Hotmail works great with the native mail app.
Just remember that Hotmail is now called Outlook.com and if you are running
iOS 7 this change is reflected in the types of accounts you can pick from.
Just make sure when you add your account that you pick
Hi,
I have the bard app installed on my phone and I know there is a problem getting
the picker to work in the app, has anyone found a work around until there is an
update. I want to search by subject but I can activate the picker and I get
the first subject to come up but after that the app
And do a three finger tap anywhere on the screen, do a three finger drag up
and down to change magnification size.
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On Nov 11, 2013, at 2:36
Hi All,
Where To? is on sale today for $0.99 for a very limited time, reduced from
$2.99. This is one of my favorite apps for POIs. I love the feature they added
two years ago for VoiceOver users where you get live updating on direction and
distance to a POI from the Details screen of the POI
Hi,
When I drag three finger up and down all I see it do on the screen is move
it up and down. I don't seem to be able to get it to get bigger. Any
suggestions on this matter.
Ed
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Jenifer,
As David and Marianne mentioned, you will see a message pop up on your
screen that will present the two purchase options. Option 1) 100 Picture
Pack for $7.99 with no time limit. Option 2) 1 Month of Unlimited Pictures
for $9.99. The purchase is done through your Apple iTunes account.
Has anyone used this program with success? I just tried using it to
transfer a contact and it kicked me right out of the program and
disconnected the bluetooth.
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Hi,
Just to add to this, you can now set up outlook accounts as IMAP on IOS and in
Mail on the Mac. This way your mail, calendar, and notes can be synced quite
easily.
hth
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On Nov 11, 2013, at 3:49 PM,
Hi Carol. Not sure I understand your question. Tap Tap See has been a free
app and service but has decided they need to charge to keep this service
going. They will be charging $8 to receive and recognize 100 pictures. Or
you can subscribe to a monthly service with unlimited number of pictures
Unfortunately, the only fix, if you want to call it a fix, I perfer the word
pain, is to do the 2 finger swipe down the screen to have voiceover to read the
entire page. This method is a pain, neusance, time waster and even more so a
battery drainer! It would be nice to be able to quickly swipe
Again, you are missing the point. you are again, comparing eggs and tomato, and
deciding what will cost a farmer more, to have chickens or to grow tomatos.
You got to compare service against service, goods against goods.
From my understanding, TiVo does not only serve blind people. TiVo is for
hmm, i'm not sure, we never know.
Maybe Talks can handle Candy Crush and Pet Rescue or Solara on good old nokia
N86? :P
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On 12 Nov 2013, at 6:19, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote:
The app is free, but you can't do anything with it unless you pay? Sounds
like buying a car and being told that you have to pay extra for the engine,
wheels and tires. But that seems to be the trend, as many developers are
doing this, i. e. the Seeing Eye GPS app, and the various sports apps
Sure, if there is accessibility bug we, as any of a responsible consumer,
regardless either we are blind or not blind, should report. However, when it is
clearly the user fault, which, frankly speaking, you have 75% of the chance
with the case, and each of these user errors and faults got to
LOL Seriously though, this would represent a dramatically more strenuous
exertion on Apple's part as gatekeeper to the iOS ecosystem. Vetting all those
app submissions for accessibility strikes me as a rather costly undertaking.
Now I know the response is that you wouldn't expect them to screen
I don't think it's much like buying a car, although if gas prices were
high enough, maybe gas companies would give away cars and you'd just
have to pay for the gas from them to run your car. I don't think this is
a new trend, but when your selling a service or content rather than a
piece of
I'm pretty sure I updated mine through iTunes. I guess if it's only something
that a few people are experiencing that it might actually be a setting
somewhere. But there's really no way to even know what setting that might be.
Blessings,
Brent
Sent from my iPhone 5
On Nov 11, 2013, at
It may be a good thing as I hear candy crush is very adicting.
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: different observation concerning When will Apple take this
seriously
Exactly.
Dear listers
I downloaded this app and registered with Nike Plus etc but am struggling to be
able to use the app well or hardly at all. It seems really quite inaccessible.
It says ‘Page 5 of 6’ at the bottom but I can’t see how to switch pages. I
unloaded VoiceOver and was able to somehow
Have you had recent bad weather in the area? I noticed sometimes when it storms
and such I won't be able to dial out, an example would be when we had the wind
from hurricane ike a few years ago.
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Sent:
Andy,
Sounds to me more like buying a car and having to buy gas/fuel to run it
which last time I checked was not included in the purchase price of the car
nor were oil changes, new tires and regular maintenance.
In any case, I think the comparisons have been exhausted and what remains is
the fact
Hi, first since I'm writing this I want to say thanks for all the help
I get from this list.
Second, I am wondering if there is a way to get notifications from
facebook from an individual person? For example, when my friend writes
a status or newsfeed update or what ever I'd like to see it so
I can't help, but I'm wondering how you're able to use BARD? I didn't
think canadians could join the NLS. Can you join through the CNIB or
something?
On 11/11/13, Jen Colley jen.col...@shaw.ca wrote:
Hi,
I have the bard app installed on my phone and I know there is a problem
getting the picker
It's like any service you use. You can't use your car without
purchasing gas, any appliances TV's etc without buying electricity,.
you are paying for a service. Any service you receive is not done for
free.
On 11/11/13, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
Andy,
Sounds to me more like
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