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I think what you are experiencing, is in some books the first letter of the
chapter is artsy, or calligraphy. This is an image that voiceover cannot
pick up. This is true on many Kindle book
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I just checked out that setting, but it was already turned off. I do
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I do the same as you. Although, I've run across books on Amazon which, at
the beg
What two applications?
On 9/17/13, SSEric wrote:
> Does anyone know of a comprehensive comparison of these two
> applications/services? Or, might you be able to give a quick overview of the
> differences.
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I do the same as you. Although, I've run across books on Amazon which, at the
beginning of some pages, especially after chapter beginnings, would have the
first few letters of the first word missing. I found that a bit irritating, as
I'd paid for a good copy of the books in question.
Thanks,
A
ars ago.
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>> Andy
>>
>> From: Alan Paganelli
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>> Bookshare
>> I wouldn't exactly call 50 bucks a year
ry few days for even more additions. So I
definitely don't want Bookshare to go away any time soon.
Tom
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From: Jan Stirbens
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Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:00 PM
Subject: Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading
ear or two, so I’m beginning to wonder if Bookshare is
> as relevant or needed as it was, say 10 years ago.
>
> Andy
>
> From: Alan Paganelli
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ty books though!
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From: Andy Baracco
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Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 7:43 PM
Subject: Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare
I am a member of bookshare, and even though I don’t download many of their
books, I kee
I have read more than once, perhaps 1
>> or 2, but something I would do rarely.
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Jane
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LOL! Me too! And I did the Reacher novels too!
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From: Andy Baracco
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Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 7:47 PM
Subject: Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare
So did my mom, at least the Perry Mason ones
Thanks to Bookshare, I've read 300 Hardy Boys books several times.
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From: Andy Baracco
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 7:47 PM
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So did my mom, at least the Perry
and
the Kindle book was free, not that I don't buy Kindle if I wish.
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Of Andy Baracco
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e
> Once an Eagle
> Always an Eagle
>
> On May 13, 2013, at 9:39 AM, "Russ Kiehne" wrote:
>
>> I've read all of the Perry Mason novels and Louis L'amour novels more than
>> once.
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Andy Baracco
>>
s it was, say 10 years ago.
>
> Andy
>
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> I wouldn't exactly call 50 bucks a year free. You can buy allot
So did my mom, at least the Perry Mason ones, and she drove me up the wall
with the TV shows too.
Andy
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I wouldn't exactly call 50 bucks a year free. You can buy allot of books for
that kind of money. All kidding aside, I am a Bookshare member and I also have
the iBooks and Kindle reading apps. I like the i
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From: Raul A. Gallegos
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Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare
,one thing which I'm wondering about is what's the real difference in
using books from Bookshare VS Kindle sin
Always is a really big word with Amazon. I've purchased a book where
maybe the image for the sighted was good, the searchable text we read
was crappy ocr. They will take it back, but you have to be willing to
go to the effort.
On 5/12/2013 19:49, Rick Alfaro wrote:
Hi, Since my particular
aracco
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> I can't off hand think of a book that I have read more than once, perhaps 1
> or 2, but something I would do rarely.
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,one thing which I'm wondering about is what's the real difference in using
book
,one thing which I'm wondering about is what's the real difference in
using books from Bookshare VS Kindle since none of it is free. Bookshare
still costs money, and so do subscription to Bookshare and then only get a few books a month from it.
Does the cost end up being less or more than if you
I've read all of the Perry Mason novels and Louis L'amour novels more than
once.
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From: Andy Baracco
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 3:50 PM
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I can't of
I wouldn't exactly call 50 bucks a year free. You can buy allot of books for
that kind of money. All kidding aside, I am a Bookshare member and I also have
the iBooks and Kindle reading apps. I like the iBooks app better then the
Kindle app but on the other hand, choice is good.
- Origi
Good post Mary. We do not get to go to the library so why not bookshare? It
will not have every book so there will be lots to buy. I edit for two authors
who sels publish and their books are definitely not on BKS. By the way, the
books are very good, too.
Reggie and Allegra, my little pill
On
Hello,
we might be talking about two different things. I'm talking about borrowing
books directly from Amazon. I believe your talking about people being allowed
to lend there books to others.
Ricardo Walker
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On May 13
That's not true.
I am reading a borrowed book that my Mom loaned to me on my iDevice.
Jane
On May 13, 2013, at 1:17 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> Hello Cara,
>
> You do not have a set due date for borrowed Kindle books but, you can only
> borrow 1 book a month and, only 1 book at a time. Y
First of all, we don't need to justify any way we gain access to books. I know
many sighted people who never buy books be they hard copy or otherwise. They
borrow them from public libraries and pay nothing. I think that fact that we
now have so many sources of reading material is a truly marvelo
I buy a lot of books including novels from several different sources — amazon,
audible, iBooks and nook. Before digital downloads I used to buy books on tape
especially if the title was from a favorite author. I just like to support them
in their writing. I also borrow a lot of books from NLS, m
Hi Cara,
Kindle borrowed books do have a time limit, as do overdrive books from the
library. My husband once lent me a Kindle book, and I think the loan period was
2 weeks, but it may have been 7 days. And while it is true that bookshare books
have no time limit, for many of those books, at leas
Hi Eileen ,
I prefer iBooks, Kindle, and Nook books over Bookshare because they
automatically sync bookmarks, and the place I left off over my
various devices.
I can start a book on my iPad mini, read it on the bus on my iPhone,
or out on the patio on my old iPhone 3Gs. The Kindle whisper network
Hello Cara,
You do not have a set due date for borrowed Kindle books but, you can only
borrow 1 book a month and, only 1 book at a time. You must also be an Amazon
prime member. Plus, you can only read borrowed books on Kindle readers, not
Kindle apps on other devices.
hth
Ricardo Walker
ri
you can keep Bookshare downloads for as long as you like. it is not a
library in the traditional sense.
Andy
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From: Cara Quinn
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 8:05 PM
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40 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare
>
> Hi, Cara.
>
> As someone else pointed out, Bookshare is kind of like a library. Well,
> admittedly, you can keep the books from Bookshare. But now that I am able
Just so I'm clear, do the books from BookShare have a time limit on their
borrowing?
How about the people you know who borrow books on Kindle? is there a time limit
on them or, like iBooks, are there just sample chapters?
Thanks so much!
Cara :)
On May 12, 2013, at 3:33 PM, John Diakogeorgiou
Hi Mary,
thanks so much for your note!
I'm having a little trouble with the comparison between services like BookShare
and a library, only because with a library you must return the books and with
BookShare the book is yours for as long as you like.
I guess I'd see more of a comparison between
Hi, Since my particular usage is strictly for pleasure reading, I don't
use some of the Kindle features like annotations and dictionary look up.
Having said that, there are 2 differences in my view.
1. Although BookShare has a lot of books, Amazon has way more. If I
can find the book on Books
Oops, don't know what happened with my previous message so I'll just
continue...
..Nah, forget it, I don't want to get involved in these types of discussions
involving opinion because they are endless.
Sorry for wasting your time. :)
LS
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This is true.
Andy
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From: Lynda Ingraham
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 4:01 PM
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Subject: RE: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare
Hi Andy,
For me personally, cookbooks and knitting books are great references that
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 5:56 PM
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Subject: Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare
Why would you want to buy a book after you already read it?
Andy
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Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 2:40 PM
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> Andy
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Jane
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> Because I like it enough to read, and read, and read again, of course. I
&g
Considering that I started with the Echo on the Apple 2E, just about any speech
sounds good to me.
Andy
From: Courtney Curran
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 3:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare
Hi,
I often buy books, on
ote:
Why would you want to buy a book after you already read it?
Andy
-Original Message- From: Jane
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 2:40 PM
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Subject: Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare
Hi, Cara.
As someone else pointed out, Booksha
Hi,
I often buy books, on iBooks, kindle, nook, etc. But the problem I have with
this, is not the fact that I have to purchase the books, but the fact that I
have to use the vo voice to read the book. I'd rather have a separate tts voice
reading the book to me, so then I can lock the screen and
Why would you want to buy a book after you already read it?
>
> Andy
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Jane
> Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 2:40 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare
>
> Hi, C
Cara:
I just wanted to chime in and agree with Mary. Sighted people use
books from the library, they also borrow books they can read on their
Kindle. Bookshare in a sense is the same thing. Many of their books
are provided by the publishers as well.
If I can download a book from bookshare I will us
Hi Jane,
Really, purchasing makes us look better? Does it also make sighted people look
better? I have plenty of sighted friends who use the local library quite
heavily. Yes, they buy some books, but almost never novels, which they read
once and don't need to keep as reference material or to re
This is so true! Why should we expect developers to make apps accissable if it
won't make them any money? It's only right that we take advantage of this
accessibility. Buying a book will not do any harm!
You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding
Sent from my
Cara,
Would you suggest that sighted people forego the use of the public library or
other sources, such as a university library, if you happen to be lucky enough
to have access to one, and buy all their books? Equality is great, but equality
ought also to mean being able to avail oneself of all
Why would you want to buy a book after you already read it?
Andy
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From: Jane
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 2:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare
Hi, Cara.
As someone else pointed out, Bookshare
> things for free. I have a blind friend who recently said that she just
> doesn't pay for books, and can't understand why any blind person would.
>
> Andy
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Cara Quinn
> Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 2:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegr
In case anyone was wondering; -apologies for the typo! Tack not tach. Oops! Lol!
Smiles,
Cara :)
On May 12, 2013, at 2:28 PM, Cara Quinn wrote:
Might I propose an additional tach here?
Now that we have a much greater accessibility to a vast library of books which
we never had before, might it
ay, May 12, 2013 2:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare
Might I propose an additional tach here?
Now that we have a much greater accessibility to a vast library of books
which we never had before, might it be a good idea to tak
Hi, Cara.
As someone else pointed out, Bookshare is kind of like a library. Well,
admittedly, you can keep the books from Bookshare. But now that I am able to, I
view it as a way to check out a book and read it, then find it if I like it and
purchase. It's what my Mom did with print books. Stil
Might I propose an additional tach here?
Now that we have a much greater accessibility to a vast library of books which
we never had before, might it be a good idea to take one more step toward
equality by purchasing books and only using BookShare as a last resort when we
cannot find a book we
My experience thus far with Kindle magazines is excellent. I have used Zinio on
the iPhone and also the Nook app on my iPad, and so far, I'd say the Kindle app
is my favorite for magazine reading, with Nook second. The major difference is
that with the Nook app, you have to go back to the table
I disliked downloading cookbooks from BookShare because I always wondered about
the accuracy of the scan with numbers - 6 looking like 8 and so on. I do not
plan on downloading novels from Kindle unless I really, really need to read
something and cannot get it elsewhere. Wouldn't like reading it
I look at bookshare to see if something is available there prior to looking on
things like the iBooks store, Nook and now Kindle. I see this as little
different than a sighted person using the public library rather than buying the
book. I agree about scans, but a lot of the bookshare collection
Also, don't forget tjat in addition to books, you get access to magazines and
newspapers, nd belive me, from what I hear, it's better than NFB. I think
NFBNewsline only gets access to the free content on the web, but if you
subscribe to a Kindle magazine, you can get the whole thing, nothing lef
For the most part, any book you get on Kindle will be perfectly legible. There
is always the question with BookShare of how legible the scanned material will
be, and I frankly don't read BookShare books that have a "good" rating or
below. I have an uncanny knack for discovering a book in which t
That is what I am doing, I find a book in another format, and read it. If I
like it, I'll try to buy it.
Jane
On May 12, 2013, at 1:42 PM, Arnold Schmidt wrote:
> One big advantage to the kindle app is the amazing number of books we, as
> blind readers, now have the ability to access in on
One big advantage to the kindle app is the amazing number of books we, as
blind readers, now have the ability to access in one place. It was stated,
in a recent Tech Doctor podcast, that this number is 1.8 million (I have not
confirmed this.) Not all these books will be readable with this app
Well, you can highlight parts of books to share with people. You can also look
up stuff in a dictionary in the app, or so I hear. You can leave reviews on
Amazon without too much trouble.
Plus, it supports authors, and it shows Amazon that we are glad for what
they've done and that hopefully th
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