Some other advantages of WhatsApp over the native Messages app, relating to
WhatsApp's Groups feature, besides the cross-platform compatibility, for
some use-cases: I like the ability to create named groups whose members you
can edit in WhatsApp. Unless I am missing something, using the native
Well, now, I really like this handwriting feature in iOS 7.0.x, but can
anybody suggest a good way to enter in a quotation mark or an apostrophe ?
These seem to typically get interpreted as commas.
Holland's Boy, Bill
- Ideas are the beginning points of all fortunes.
- Napoleon
Hi all,
Just wondering if anyone here knows how to turn up Skype phone calls volume and
turn down facetime audio and phone call volume?
I theoriticly need to turn voiceover down to 35% to get a decent audio belance
between skype and VO on my iPad. On another hand, when i turn my phone volume
How can Cut Paste (or Copy Paste) be done on an iPhone, etc?
Or, better yet, where is there documentation one can read to learn to do
these sorts of things?
I know I'll get a valuable answer here so, thank you in advance!
Holland's Boy, Bill
- Ideas are the beginning points
Hi Bill,
Check out the website www.IBlindTech.com. Garth has a series of Podcasts and
one of them is on selecting, copying and pasting text.
Regards,
Sieghard
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Of Bill Gallik
Sent: Sunday,
Here's how you do it, so you can have text to follow as well. Be warned,
though, that the select/de-select gestures can be very challenging. In fact,
I've used iOS for almost three years, and I still can't do it right most of the
time.
1. In a text field, or anywhere you can highlight text,
Hi Alex,
It is actually pinch out for selecting text and pinch in for deselecting
text.
Think of pinch out as moving your 2 fingers away from each other on the
screen like your are expanding
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Hi all.
Well, It is something that is difficult to detect that is because the iPhone,
or because the Bluetooth headphone. I don't think is because the headphone, is
the same headphone that I was using with my iPhone 4.
Ok, I reset my Bluetooth headphone, and I paired it with my iPhone 5s. It is
This distortion is not a 5S issue. I have the same thing with the 5.
This I think is good news because it can be fixed with an IOS update
should they decide to fix it.
Don
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Hi all, I really wanted to demonstrate taptapsee to the ios club that I run
through our local helen keller centre. Unfortunately, I can't find the
results of a lookup using my braille display. That renders the app pretty
useless for the deaf-blind. Am I missing something?
Thanks,
Erik
Hi all.
I am starting to think that the problem with my Bluetooth connection, is my
Bluetooth headphone. So I would like to ask all of you, a kind of headphone
with the following features.
1. It should not be embedded in the ear.
2. The device must go around the ear.
Any advice?
thanks
Pablo
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Are you connected to the internet when you try to play the book? If
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On 10/19/13, Courtney Curran moopiecur...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
Thanks for this tip, but the problem I'm having is when I go to play any
Start by making a period by placing one finger on the screen to make a dot.
Then do a two finger swipe up or down to toggle to the punctuation mark you
want. This toggle method works in other modes as well. For example, if you
write the letter U and the letter V appears, you could use the
Hi Joanne,
Theoretically you should just be able to use the volume buttons to increase
or decrease the volume while a call is going on. Having said this, there
definitely seem to be a few issues with Voiceover volume and other volume
levels in iOS 7. If, for example, I turn down the volume when I
Hi Eric,
As far as I can tell Tap Tap See only speaks the results and you can repeat
it by tapping the Repeat button, but I don't think it is displayed on the
screen where you could review it either with Voiceover or by using a braille
display. It never occurred to me why this might be
Hi,
I’m not sure I understand. If you turn down the volume while listening to an
audible book, does the actual Voiceover volume in the rotor gets turned down?
Or does all system volume turn down. If the second, this is standard behavior.
Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Hi Kimber,
Yes, I'm connected to the internet, I emailed bard yesterday, hopefully, I'll
hear back this week..
Courtney
Kimber Gardner kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com wrote:
Courtney,
Are you connected to the internet when you try to play the book? If
not, try connecting to your wifi before
Hi Bill,
I have had some success doing quotation marks by very quickly doing 2
commas. I can't count on results so I simply do a period and flick down
with 2 fingers and, for those hard to get, I simply select the mark I want.
Ron Danvers
Falling down is part of LIFE...
Getting
Oh Grant and anyone else with suggestions, thank you from me and my iPad! Have
it in recovery mode now again and so far so good. Tried twice last night, but
it gets to a certain point in the download and stops making a ding on computer
like it spit out the usb. So far no ding. 41 minutes. OOPS,
Hey Pablo, I am glad to hear that you understand that my intention was help
and that there was definitely no harm meant - have a good week-end, Ed.
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Sent: Friday, October 18,
Sieghard,
I also wrote to Apple concerning the volume problems. They told me they
know about the problem but can't give me any idea as to when it will be
resolved.Meanwhile They gave me 2 work-arounds that don't work. One was to
press the lock button (not the home button) five times and the
Ricardo,
The point is that if you lower your volume lower than 35% you can't raise it
again above that unless you do a full reset on your phone which I did but, I
stupidly went below 35% and I would have to reset again and I won't.
Ron Danvers
Falling down is part of LIFE...
Getting back up
Hi Ron,
I also can't raise the Voiceover volume above 35% using the volume rotor,
but this does not seem to apply to the volume buttons. If you get Voiceover
to read continuously and then press the volume up button it goes really
loud.
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Hi Ricardo,
Normally it is not standard behavior that Voiceover volume is connected to
the volume of music or an audio book that is playing. On my 4S I don't think
I had this issue so I think it's less of an iOS 7 issue than a 5S issue.
Anyways, consider this:
I am playing an Audible book and I
You don't need to be connected to the internet when reading a book. The
only time you need to be connected is when you download a book or use itunes
to transfer a book to your device.
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Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 7:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
You do need to be connected to the INTERNET when you first start playing
a book that you transferred to your iPhone using iTunes, DropBox and so
on. this is for your authorization to be checked. You don't need to be
connected to the INTERNET to listen to a book you download straight to
your
Hello All,
The other day, I noticed, that when I reply to a e-mail on my
phone, even though I double tap to make sure that it says
insertion point at start, it is putting my message under the
origonal message.
I am wondering, if anyone knows, how I can change it back, so
that my message is on
I haven't tested the app much. I'll say this though: if the app speaks a result
and it flashes on the display, you cna toggle a history of such announcements
with space-n. That might allow you to review the results, but again I'm not
sure.
On Oct 20, 2013, at 9:40 AM, Sieghard Weitzel
Hi,
So your saying, if for example, on your 4S, if you are listening to music and
lower the volume, Voiceover volume isn’t lowered at the same time? So then,
you would eventually reach a state where your music volume was lowered all the
way but, Voiceover volume is still the same? I honestly
Ah, my apologies for the mistake. Even as I wrote it I felt like I had
something wrong, but wasn't sure what.
On Oct 20, 2013, at 7:28 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
Hi Alex,
It is actually pinch out for selecting text and pinch in for deselecting
text.
Think of pinch out as
I believe this topic has been discussed before, but sometimes apps change. Is
there any app that is accessible with VoiceOver that would allow me to edit an
Excel spreadsheet on my iPhone or an iPad?
Thanks.
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Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 9:02 AM
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You do need to be connected to the INTERNET when you first start playing
a book that you transferred to
This is easy enough to check in the App Store, but google Maps is 12.8M.
On 10/20/2013 12:14 AM, Gary Petraccaro wrote:
Do you happen to know what the size is?
Thanks.
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2013
Sorry about that. I read your message to say that you needed an INTERNET
connection when transferring a book over with iTunes. My understanding
is that you don't need an internet connection during the transfer but
you will when you go to play that book that you have transferred with
iTunes.
Hi,
The Numbers app is supposed to let you view, create and edit spreadsheets.
I played with it a long time ago and found that it was way more hassle than
it was worth, but it may have improved considerably since then.
Tom
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Pablo, I continue to recommend the Plantronics Backbeat 903 Plus as the best
for sound and comfort in the mid to low cost range Bluetooth headphones.
They are stereo. The one downfall, which is common to almost all Bluetooth
devices regardless of cost, is the microphone. The truest test of this is
Hi all,
I just recently updated my iPhone 5 to iOS7 a couple of days ago from 6.1.4.
I know it was reported that there was no longer a dictate button beside the
space bar in iOS 7, but that is what I am finding strange, and has made me
wonder.
I still have a dictate button to the left of the
Hi Eric.
I do not like tabtabsee because of the fact, that I can not get the results
shown in braille. Often it can be difficult to hear and understand what the app
says, I wish that could be improved.
Best regards Annie.
Den Oct 20, 2013 kl. 6:03 PM skrev Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com:
I
As far as I know, the dictate button hasn't been discontinued. I have it in my
IOS7. I use it, too, and like it. Quite an admission for someone who normal
hates dictating, but it's growing on me. :)
Teresa
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On Oct 20, 2013, at 9:49 AM, Chris Chaffin
I get a written record of what it says. works great.
Alia
On Oct 20, 2013, at 1:10 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi Eric.
I do not like tabtabsee because of the fact, that I can not get the results
shown in braille. Often it can be difficult to hear and
Hi,
Unfortunately, during this whole process, I've had an internet connection, but
still no go. Thanks for clarifying anyway.
Courtney
Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
Sorry about that. I read your message to say that you needed an
INTERNET
connection when transferring a book over
Hi,
When I was using IOS 6 on my IPad I could asked Siri what she can do for me
and she would give me a list of about 20 to 30 things she can do. Now that
I updated my IPad to IOS 7.02 and asked Siri that same question there is no
answer. I have asked the same question about ten times on
Hi Gadget girl,
When I put in the period like you said then swiped down and then VO said
comma I double tap to enter the comma. Then when I go back and check it I
have a period and a comma. What am I doing wrong.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of
Still no correction to my iPad! Grrr! However, have another question about
iPhone and iPad.
Have a friend who has an iPad. She can call me on facetime with my email or
cell number. I can only call her on her email and only if I go into recents and
touch her email address that shows up when she
Just keep going. Wehn you find or write the character you want, it is entered
already. Double tapping will not do anything. So, if you draw a circle and VO
says o, the o is already typed into the text field and you can move to the
next character. I hope that makes sense.
On Oct 20, 2013, at
Joseph Hudson
Email
jhud7...@yahoo.com Sent from my iPhone hello guys, I found the channel that was
made for this list but now I'm having a problem getting the password to work.
I'll call does anybody know whether any of the letters were capitalized or not?
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I believe the dictate button only shows up when Siri is turned on.
Sent from Kimber's iPhone
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Hi all,
I just recently updated my iPhone 5 to iOS7 a couple of days ago from 6.1.4.
I know it was reported that there was
Hi
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Hi
It would be great if you include in your article if your suggestions are
available for everyone of just for folks that live in certain countries.
Since it can be somewhat frustrating to read some great app, deal or
product just to realize that it's only available in the us, Canada etc.
Hi listers,
While watching the final season of Breaking Bad as it was broadcast, I
found myself wishing I had a DVR. I have grown to love the Apple TV,
as it has opened up the worlds of Netflix and HBO go to me, and can't
believe there isn't an accessible DVR solution. I am fairly happy
with my
Absolutely. Sorry about the one-worder *smile* but there is no other way to
say it without repeating everything so at least I made it a one-liner!
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Of Ricardo Walker
Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013
Hi Ryan,
I agree with Tom, I bought numbers as well and did end up looking at an
Excel spreadsheet once which I imported to Numbers. I was able to navigate
around, but it was not the greatest experience. I am a firm believer that
while computer sales are slowing down, there will be a need for
Hi Ed,
As Paul says, just continue typing, in the case of a comma you would
typically continue with a 2-finger swipe right to insert a space, then
continue with your next word.
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Of Pinky
Sent: Sunday, October 20,
I believe the person who reported it missing might have had SIRI turned off
and as Kimber correctly said, SIRI has to be one for Dictation to work.
However, while the Dictate button is there, I find myself usually using the
shortcut which is a 2-finger double tap in the edit field. Often one has
I looked for podcasts on applevis about GPS apps and the only ones I
found were the blind square one and seeing eye. I also found one on
ARiadne and Mike's podcast about those five GPS apps were great. I
couldn't find any on Navigon though. Any tips as to where I can find
one? Thanks
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Hi Robert,
If your reply was underneath you must have accidently moved focus back to
the bottom of the message which is easy to do in iOS 7 since the cursor is
moved to wherever you touch the screen. Takes a bit of getting used to, but
for me if I double tap with one finger in the email body and
A TiVo box with the TiVo app is very accessible. My cable provider uses
TiVo for their DVR, but TiVo will also work with other TV providers.
check with tivo.com to get some more information.
On 10/20/2013 01:37 PM, Eric Brinkman wrote:
Hi listers,
While watching the final season of Breaking
I agree if I know this already, but if I see something in the App Store,
or see a news feed about an app worth trying, how will I know what
countries it's available in?
On 10/20/2013 01:36 PM, Anne Günther wrote:
Hi
It would be great if you include in your article if your suggestions are
Hi Lelia,
Raul did a Podcast about how to efficiently enter addresses into Navigon for
planning a route. It may not cover everything, but it's a big part of using
Navigon and the Podcast is on Applevis, see link below:
http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/entering-addresses-using-navigon-vo
So what is this handwriting thing? is there some way I could read about it?
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You are using Windows, right? I suppose you could try downloading iOS 7.0.2
via direct link. Here is a Blog that collects these direct links from Apple:
http://www.redmondpie.com/ios-7.0.2-download-for-iphone-5s-5-4s-4-ipad-ipod-
touch-released/
Find the direct link for your model of iPad (if you
Hi,
Setting the rotor to links always works for me.
Godwin Adoyi
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Of Donna
Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2013 9:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Links and text messages
You should
Hey Tom,
How are you doing? This is what I have found out with many inquiries about
this. Office 2010 2013 is not accessible with VO. The solution that has been
suggested several times is for me to install VM on the back side of my Air.
since I still have my Dell functioning, I am accessing
I've actually found that for me only 1 comma has been necessary- even with
switchboards with recorded messages.
Cher
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Of Tom Lange
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 10:57 PM
To:
Hi,
I believe he is looking for an app for IOS not the Mac.
hth
Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
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On Oct 20, 2013, at 3:39 PM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
Hey Tom,
How are you doing? This is what I have found out
Hello, sharing on the Mac is how I've been doing it in the past.
It worked flawlessly in ios6, but not so far in ios7.
Traci
On Oct 19, 2013, at 2:50 PM, Ioana Gandrabur igandra...@gmail.com wrote:
If by any chance you have a mac you could do it through the reminder app on
the mac. Otherwise
I posted about this Thursday, but unless I missed the posts, there has been no
response:
There was a Facebook update on October 17. Since that time, whenever I try to
use the app on my iPhone 5, it dumps me out after a few seconds. The app
switcher says it is still running; I go back in, and
Speaking of asking Siri what it can do is that what the help button does?
E-mail Facebook and iMessage
christopher...@gmail.com
On 20/10/2013 18:23, Pinky wrote:
Hi,
When I was using IOS 6 on my IPad I could asked Siri what she can do for me
and she would give me a list of about 20 to 30
I have an I Phone 4, and I am having trouble with Voice Over on some
applications. Is there a way to contact the Accessibility support by
E-Mail?
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Sure, just send an email message to accessibil...@apple.com.
BTW, Googling for Apple accessibility will show you
http://www.apple.com/accessibility/ where you'll find the email address
for Apple's Accessibility Team.
On 10/20/2013 03:13 PM, clarence carter wrote:
I have an I Phone 4, and I
Sure, not only has it been discussed a lot on list, so you could find a
lot in the list archives, you can also use Google to find blog articles
and podcasts on it. One I found quickly is at
http://www.fedoraoutlier.com/handwriting-in-ios-7-2/
After you add hand writing to your roter, when
Hello Leila. Here is a good article on the handwriting function. It's quite a
ways down the page, so be sure to scroll down the page. Also, the article did
not mention that a three finger swipe from left to right inserts a new line.
http://www.fedoraoutlier.com/handwriting-in-ios-7-2/
Hello Leila. Here is a short podcast I found on handwriting.
http://htb2.com/2013/09/to-the-point-1-why-you-should-use-handwriting-in-ios-7/
Regards,
Gadget Girl Anita
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Hi does anybody know how to make the latest version of the Netflix app
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it is still not working please let me know thanks
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Hi Eric.
Yes, I bought that plantronic something. I guess is plantronic legend. But I
have a question about this kind of Bluetooth headphone. Some times, when I
press the answer call button, for, maybe 3 or 4 seconds, the bip of siri
appear. Then I say what ever I want. But some times when I
Hello, everyone.
Suddenly, user interface sounds, such as the chime that indicates a
refresh has completed, are not present in Lire 1.9.35. A check of
Settings shows these sounds are enabled. In addition, when I open a
feed or an area such as Settings, the beep signal that indicates the
area is
Forgive my ignorance, please? What channel r u people talking about?
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I'm good to go and hopefully you've received my four missives by now which
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Ashenburg and mainly Michelle hogging the microphone yet again. Don't ever
let her corner you to ask about the writing process since that seems to be
I was talking what the Zello channel that is named after this list.
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it isn't and the company has no plans to make it so.
-eric
On Oct 20, 2013, at 1:58 PM, Conrad Bennett wrote:
Hi does anybody know how to make the latest version of the Netflix app
accessible I tried everything including turning voiceover on and off to
scroll it is still not working please
Has anyone used this pair of stereo bluetooth headphones? I'm having problems
where it plays music just fine, but voiceover is really choppy. Does anyone
have any ideas?
Thank you so much!
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I am getting a macbook and need to learn alot. I need help subscribing
to macvisionaries.
I cant subscribe via email or the google groups page.
how can I contact the owner?
reply to
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Thanks,
Rob
You can leave me a voice mail or fax at
206-426-3505
God is good all the
Have you been using the Netflix app, and you're saying the latest
version is less accessible than previous versions?
For my part, it seems to work the same as it always has. You can only
double tap things that are actually visible on the screen, and exploring
with voiceOver with flicks left
How embarrassing. The mute switch was on. With the phone unmuted,
I got my Lire sounds back. I'm now going to wipe the egg off my face.
Craig
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Hello, everyone.
Suddenly, user interface sounds, such as the chime that indicates a
refresh
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Hi,
Don't know if I can describe this well but, Anyone else having an issue
where when you flick up to go to the next screen in email or other apps then
you touch the screen to read something the page or screen moves up to
another screen beyond the one you want to read?
I have noticed this in
It also works for me like it always has.
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Have you been using the Netflix app, and you're saying the latest
version is less accessible
Hi,
I tried to subscribed to Macvisionary a few weeks ago only to have the
GoogleGroups state that I was authorized to join this group. Obviously, I am
able to join others, as I am able to reply to your email. I too would like to
contact the owner to subscribe to this group, as I am also new
Hello, everyone.
I just became cognizant of this behavior, but it must have been in iOS
7.02 ever since I downloaded it. Whenever I open certain areas in
certain apps, the VoiceOver melody, which used to sound once, now
sounds twice. This is evident in areas of iBooks, for instance. Has
anyone
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The list is approve-only, so a moderator will have to okay you to join. You
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On Oct 20, 2013, at 7:13 PM, Eileen Misrahi
Hi,
Has anyone tried using the iPad app for The Great Courses company?
With sighted help, I'm told the course listings are graphic images, and there
is a PLAY button that doesn't respond to a double-tap, requiring VO to be
turned off and then on again.
Before I write the developer, I'm
here is the message I got when using the email link to subscribe.
I got the same message Saturday.
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I'm not sure what sound you're talking about, but could you be talking
about the sound you get when you move between containers? This was added
in IOS 7 for iPhones.
On 10/20/2013 06:15 PM, Craig Werner wrote:
Hello, everyone.
I just became cognizant of this behavior, but it must have been
Hi Rob,
I just attempted to subscribe to Macvisionaries and just received the same
message. Hence, I hope the owner is monitoring this list or someone who is a
member of Macvisionaries can inform the owner that this is occurring and that
new members are interested in joining and learning as
I was not successful either. Received the same message about having to be
invited.
Donna
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Subject: Re: trying to subscribe to macvisionaries
here is the message I
Sorry guys. I have emailed the list about this problem, and I know one of the
mods is always on there so hopefully we will hear back soon. Clearly the list
subscription method has changed since I joined, and I didn't realize it. Sorry
again for the confusion, and I'll let you know what I find
You have to be approved first. It generally takes up to a couple of weeks. They
do this so that spammers don't join the list. It's a problem with the big
email-list services, and some of the smaller ones, for that matter.
HtH,
teresa
The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve.--Pete Graham
No Chris. It is not maybe true. It is true. Period.
I paid for that iPhone, or for that iPad, or for that iDevice, or for that
home, or for that parking lot. When you are talking about the city
authority, who wants to install electric wires to my home, and this wires
are for improve my life,
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