RE: Does anyone know if Mark Taylor is still moderating, and is Cara Quinn still the owner?

Hello Richard, I assure you, we are still here and monitoring the list, everyday (smile). Mark From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 3:50 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Does anyone know if Mark

RE: Petition · Apple: Apple, commit to never again willfully excluding disabled people from public betas · Change.org

If you're truly concerned about posts and traffic on this list, I'd encourage you to follow the moderators request at the bottom of every post to this list, namely " If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate,

KeePass [was "RE: Accessible electronic password managers being used?"]

It looks like there are multiple apps for IOS that support KeePass. Which one are you using Alan? Also, I assume to use this across multiple platforms, you’ll need to access a common password file, maybe on a file sharing service like Google Drive, is this true? -- Christopher (AKA CJ)

Re: Pétition · Apple: Apple, commit to never again willfully excluding disabled people from public betas · Change.org

Honestly, people are dumb. They'll start a petition over anything, even if its their fault something happened. I don't feel bad for you in the least. We should start a petition to remove the idiot who started this whole mess from the list so they don't clog our emails with their wining.

RE: Pétition · Apple: Apple, commit to never again willfully excluding disabled people from public betas · Change.org

Well, the problem as I see it, is that Apple is telling people in the first place that VoiceOver users shouldn't install the beta, which is where the petition is coming from. I didn't see anything in the petition that said the petitioner went ahead and installed the beta and is now whining

RE: Accessible electronic password managers being used?

I took a look at the web site for Bit Warden. It looks like you keep your passwords in the cloud, is this right Kevin? It also looks like being able to keep things synced across multiple platforms is part of the free account, is this also the case? -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at

Re: Pétition · Apple: Apple, commit to never again willfully excluding disabled people from public betas · Change.org

Thanks Donna for that explanation. I saw this email, but just now checked it out. If apple clearly said, don't try this beta on your apple watch until we fix voice over problems, then they decided to install it anyway, then they deserve what problems they got. On 8/16/20, CrazyEyez wrote: >

RE: Petition · Apple: Apple, commit to never again willfully excluding disabled people from public betas · Change.org

I didn't see anything in the petition that said anyone went ahead and installed the beta even after Apple warned that voiceOver users shouldn't install the beta. The point of the petition, as I read it, is that Apple shouldn't exclude blind people from participating in the public beta because

Re: Pétition · Apple: Apple, commit to never again willfully excluding disabled people from public betas · Change.org

Sorry about that. I didn't know that. But how someone can be so mean to the point of wanting to put someone off a list for some mistake Lyne > Le 16 août 2020 à 02:16, Donna Casteen a écrit : > > I -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have

Re: ISO an accessible UPS for a home office

Hi, I just wanted to chime in with a cautionary note to spare anyone the incidents I lived through. Since Sieghard mentioned the 850. When selecting them be sure you know how much wattage your pc draws.  I had a 900 of this series and blew two of them out before I figured out that its limit

Re: Pétition · Apple: Apple, commit to never again willfully excluding disabled people from public betas · Change.org

I can't believe such a petition was started!!臘‍♀️ This petition was started because an Apple watch user went against Apple's WARNING to NEVER install beta versions of IOS on ANY Appple device that is YOUR main device! Of course, this person just HAD to have the beta update & installed the

Re: KeePass [was "RE: Accessible electronic password managers being used?"]

Hi, the KeePass app I use is KeePass Touch. Here is the link: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/keepass-touch/id966759076 Chris > On Aug 16, 2020, at 6:06 AM, chalt...@gmail.com wrote: > >  > It looks like there are multiple apps for IOS that support KeePass. Which one > are you using Alan?

RE: Pétition · Apple: Apple, commit to never again willfully excluding disabled people from public betas · Change.org

Can't agree more .. I also installed the beta .. without reading the release notes .. so it's on me .. not Apple .. and I will wait for it to get fixed .. I'm not going to scream and holler at Apple for my stupidity .. Everyone needs to just relax .. Until this go around .. there wasn't

RE: Ipod 7 & Memory Cards

Well, iPhones, iPads or iPods if they can run iOS 13, they can use external memory cards with the appropriate adapter. For example, if I have a very large MP3 file that I do not want to take up space in my device’s memory, I can use a memory card with an adapter to listen to that file. Or

Re: Ipod 7 & Memory Cards

i have a lot of cookbooks, knitting books etc. that i keep as references. True, wouldn't have to purchase card and adapter. Thank you very much. Lynda Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 16, 2020, at 11:23 AM, Richard Turner > wrote: > >  > Well, iPhones, iPads or iPods if they can run iOS 13,

Blind square list?

Hello All, does Blind square still have list to subscribe to? I have a few things that have changed with the App that I need to ask their list. Thanks so much. Andy and Shubert Andrew J. LaPointe, President Friends of the Salem Council on Aging 34 Raymond Ave. Salem, MA. 01970 Home:

RE: Blind square list?

Thank you Richard. Andy and Shubert From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 1:47 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Blind square list? Try writing them atsupp...@blindsquare.com

Re: How do I reply manually to a text message, please?

a very useful tip. Thank you Sent from my iPhone by Alison may 0777 315 8181 > On 16 Aug 2020, at 3:22 pm, Richard Turner > wrote: > > To add to that, and to reduce the clutter on the messages screen, if when > you find the icon for Apps, if it says "visible" double tap so it says hidden.

RE: Accessible electronic password managers being used?

Shirley, It sounds as if you need to use a browser that allows it to save your password whenever you have to sign into a website. I prefer to manage my passwords with KeePass which allows me to quickly search its database by entry name and to quickly copy whatever I'm storing in KeePass for

RE: KeePass [was "RE: Accessible electronic password managers being used?"]

Marie, The only options listed within my KeePass Touch settings for the database storage location was Dropbox and FTP. I've always been a Dropbox user since they were the first cloud service I used and they seemed the most widely supported across the most iOS apps. I would suggest you get a

RE: Accessible electronic password managers being used?

No reason why you couldn’t but it’s not as secure as something like keypass or one password From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings Sent: Sunday, 16 August 2020 10:05 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Accessible electronic password managers being used? Is it

RE: Pétition · Apple: Apple, commit to never again willfully excluding disabled people from public betas · Change.org

Nah, Just stop talking about it and let it ride, If someone is crazy enough to not listen to the manufacturer / developer of a product when they say don't put this os on a primary device and they do anyway then they deserve what they get, Apple said don't, it's a beta and the person said

Re: Pétition · Apple: Apple, commit to never again willfully excluding disabled people from public betas · Change.org

The problem I have with this whole thing is that a few people have reported that they had their devices set not to install any betas, any updates. And despite having done that, they got it anyway. That is on Apple. It’s bad enough they decided it was OK to release a beta that doesn’t support

Does anyone know if Mark Taylor is still moderating, and is Cara Quinn still the owner?

They have both been rather silent for weeks. Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself," and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to

RE: Pétition · Apple: Apple, commit to never again willfully excluding disabled people from public betas · Change.org

But you have to really laugh because this is funny in it's own right, -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Donna Casteen Sent: Sunday, 16 August 2020 6:17 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pétition · Apple: Apple, commit to never again willfully

RE: Pétition · Apple: Apple, commit to never again willfully excluding disabled people from public betas · Change.org

And finally someone with some sense -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Peter Logan Sent: Monday, 17 August 2020 1:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Pétition · Apple: Apple, commit to never again willfully excluding disabled people from

RE: KeePass [was "RE: Accessible electronic password managers being used?"]

It should yes, From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Marie N Sent: Monday, 17 August 2020 5:32 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: KeePass [was "RE: Accessible electronic password managers being used?"] Will Keypass Touch work with the database in One Drive rather than Drop Box?

Re: Pétition · Apple: Apple, commit to never again willfully excluding disabled people from public betas · Change.org

There's quite a difference between a public beta and a developers' beta. The original warning notioce was for a developer's beta, which came out one week BEFORE the PUBLIC beta was released. No change was made to improve the functioning of VoiceOver with Watch OS 7 during those seven days.

RE: Petition · Apple: Apple, commit to never again willfully excluding disabled people from public betas · Change.org

Hi Christopher, You should read more into it, The person behind this idea did install the pb for watch os 7 to their primary watch device and voiceover wasn't working Apple do state that you shouldn't put a beta on to a primary device as it is a beta and therefore may cause issues that

RE: Petition · Apple: Apple, commit to never again willfully excluding disabled people from public betas · Change.org

I'm not sure what I should look into more. The petition, which I did read, says nothing about someone installing a beta with a VoiceOver bug after they were warned not to by Apple. The petition just said that a public beta was made available but blind people using VoiceOver couldn't participate

Re: Petition · Apple: Apple, commit to never again willfully excluding disabled people from public betas · Change.org

exactly please stop making excuses for Apple. How else would someone test the device. If this was something that gave the sighted people issue this would have been a delayed release. Public beta so why wasn't this done right. Apple also should make the watch down gradable with out needing to send

Re: Petition · Apple: Apple, commit to never again willfully excluding disabled people from public betas · Change.org

Yep. Now imagine if the digital crown didn't work, and sioghted users were told not to install the public beta for Watch OS7. Does anyone think that they'd stand for that? -Original Message- From: chalt...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 17, 2020 2:07 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Re: Petition · Apple: Apple, commit to never again willfully excluding disabled people from public betas · Change.org

Just my 50 cents here, but I feel like Apple has been very consistent with including disabled beta testers, in this particular case, the BVI community. I have been beta testing apple software since 2011, and always been included in the program, so I'm not sure where the intent of this petition

RE: Petition · Apple: Apple, commit to never again willfully excluding disabled people from public betas · Change.org

Your right, but the problem in this case the beta was not accessible. Larry -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Yuma Decaux Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 8:44 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Petition · Apple:

RE: How do I reply manually to a text message, please?

To add to that, and to reduce the clutter on the messages screen, if when you find the icon for Apps, if it says "visible" double tap so it says hidden. Then, after the second button, there will be nothing, instead of all the various apps you can use in messages, frankly, I find all that just

RE: Petition · Apple: Apple, commit to never again willfully excluding disabled people from public betas · Change.org

Exactly right Christopher. As crazyeyez says below, people are dumb. This is true of people like him or her who insult others over a petition they haven't even bothered to read for themselves. Sherry Wells -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of

RE: Ipod 7 & Memory Cards

If it can run iOS 13, it should work fine, but I have to point out that it will take no less time to just redownload them from the original sources. In reality, it might be faster. Not to mention less expensive since you won’t need to buy the adapter. Richard "He that cannot forgive others

RE: Pétition · Apple: Apple, commit to never again willfully excluding disabled people from public betas · Change.org

I don't know who started it, I especially these days don't have th etime to bother with such nonsens, but I do know from a beta list I am on that somebody installed this and they ended up having to send their Apple Watch to Apple to get it fixed because it was basically bricked. That person or

RE: Accessible electronic password managers being used?

And with Roboform you can either choose a particular login (it's done through the icon in the system tray) or if you are already on a particular website you can just use the keyboard shortcut Alt + Z and Roboform will fill in the user name and password based on the web address. If, for example,

Re: Petition · Apple: Apple, commit to never again willfully excluding disabled people from public betas · Change.org

Jonathan, the individual who started the petition, isn't the person who installed the public beta on his Apple watch. The individual who installed the public beta knows Jonathan in someway. I am searching, but can't recall if the individual who installed the public beta complained on a group.io

Ipod 7 & Memory Cards

Hi Everyone, I haven't seen the Ipod 7th gen. I am giving my 8+ to my brother. I am wondering whether the Ipod 7th gen screen of an Iphone and can use Bard and other game apps. I would also like to know whether a memory stick can be used to store more than photos. Most of the info I have

Re: KeePass [was "RE: Accessible electronic password managers being used?"]

Will Keypass Touch work with the database in One Drive rather than Drop Box? Thanks From: Alan Lemly Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 7:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: KeePass [was "RE: Accessible electronic password managers being used?"] Hi Christopher, I use KeePass Touch on

Re: Accessible electronic password managers being used?

So once your passwords are in the cloud and you want to log in on a particular site, how do you go about finding the particular password to log in which has been stored in the cloud? Or do. you select forgot password and just have it generate another one for you each time? I just don't

RE: Petition · Apple: Apple, commit to never again willfully excluding disabled people from public betas · Change.org

Donna, Imagine that apple has been released a version for the iphone, with no voiceover enabled. What will you do? Jonathan Mosen started this petition, and he is right. Apple is sending a message that’s blind people is not a priority. I hope, really hope, that’s its just a beta, and will

Re: Accessible electronic password managers being used?

If you keep them in the cloud, how do you find the one you want to use and do you create those yourself? Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 16, 2020, at 5:08 AM, chalt...@gmail.com wrote: > >  > I took a look at the web site for Bit Warden. It looks like you keep your > passwords in the cloud, is

RE: Pétition · Apple: Apple, commit to never again willfully excluding disabled people from public betas · Change.org

Seriously ... this is a little overboard .. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of l.d.ethie...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2020 8:44 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Pétition · Apple: Apple, commit to never again willfully excluding disabled

Re: KeePass [was "RE: Accessible electronic password managers being used?"]

Hi Christopher, I use KeePass Touch on my iPhone SE 2020. I paid the 99 cents to get sync privileges and keep my KeePass database file in a Dropbox folder. It works great on both Windows and iOS and I have a total investment cost of 99 cents. I really like KeePass Touch because it's very easy

RE: Petition · Apple: Apple, commit to never again willfully excluding disabled people from public betas · Change.org

At the risk of stepping on toes, all of you who are publicly criticizing CrazyEyez are violating the same list rule to write the moderator directly, instead of posting to the list. Perhaps the moderator, Mark Taylor, will come back to moderating or appoint someone else to do so. I am simply

Re: Ipod 7 & Memory Cards

Imagine an IPod exactly like an iPHone, but without cellphone service. You need to connect to ITunes to put stuff on that you’ve got on the computer sadly. Good luck! Gera Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel > El 16 ago 2020, a la(s) 10:02 a.m., Lynda Ingraham > escribió: >

RE: Accessible electronic password managers being used?

You use the Bit Warden app to find passwords. You can also use it to generate a password for you. Instead of the Bit Warden app using a local file to store your passwords, it stores them in the cloud. This way when you add or update a password, it’ll be updated whenever you use the Bit Warden

RE: Accessible electronic password managers being used?

You bring up the Bit Warden app and your accounts will show up in a list. You can also search for a particular account. When you tap on the account, you’ll be able to see your password. I’m just starting to play with Bit Warden myself, but I assume it also has features to copy a password to the

Re: Pétition · Apple: Apple, commit to never again willfully excluding disabled people from public betas · Change.org

To all parties concerned, I have been an observer on this list for more than a year now. Furthermore, I am a beta tester and developer. Most importantly, I am visually impaired. I have not commented often or possibly even at all. However, this time I feel it imperative to respond. I can

RE: How do I reply manually to a text message, please?

That sounds pretty straight right. Thanks. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Malcolm Parfitt Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2020 7:46 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: How do I reply manually to a text message,

RE: How do I reply manually to a text message, please?

Thanks for that additional option. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 10:23 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: How do I reply manually to a text message, please? To add

Re: Accessible electronic password managers being used?

I would like one that would create my passwords, fill them in, Etc., so I wouldn't have to do that. I am not good at creating passwords so that's why I want a password manager that will.I just want to know how to use it when logging in on websites and I don't want to have to remember my

Re: Blind square list?

Try writing them atsupp...@blindsquare.com Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted

RE: Blind square list?

If writing their support didn’t help, go to the groups.io web site and search for BlindSquare. That is where the group is now hosted. It seems to be a very quiet group. Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace

Re: Accessible electronic password managers being used?

Does Roboform work with the iPhone and if so, is it accessible? Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 16, 2020, at 1:53 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > >  > And with Roboform you can either choose a particular login (it's done through > the icon in the system tray) or if you are already on a particular