RE: VoiceOver And Assistive Touch

I was under the impression the new gestures aren't going to be ready until early October. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Edward Przybylek Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2023 6:14 PM To: 'ViPhoneList' Subject: VoiceOver And Assistive Touch Hi all, I’ve been trying to setup my

RE: iOS 16.6.1 health app no longer usable

Make sure that screen recognition didn't accidently get turned on for the Health app. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Donald Raikes Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2023 5:06 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: iOS 16.6.1 health app no longer usable I

RE: Be my eyes new service

IMO, judgements like soulful should not be comeing out of a machine. Where is this going any way. Kind of scarry. James B -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2023 9:12 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Re: Per voiceover settings, not working on iPhone 14 or 14 pro for me

Evan. I’m having exactly the same problem at saying it’s changing but it’s not doing a thing. And so I’m thinking that they are going to have to figure out why some of us are having this issue. I don’t think that just resetting everything is the answer if many of us are facing this issue. And I

Re: Per voiceover settings, not working on iPhone 14 or 14 pro for me

I am also having the problem on my iPhone 12. I tried two voices, the one I use regularly, Eloquence Reed, and Alex, which I have also used. I cannot get the per voice settings to work at all. It says that the settings are changing, but I hear no differences in the voice, as I did in the

Re: Per voiceover settings, not working on iPhone 14 or 14 pro for me

I would like to be able to use the new per voice settings. But if it takes  a factory reset in order to get them, then I'll live without them. Evan On 9/21/2023 10:18 PM, Paula Pinder wrote: Yes I am also experiencing this problem. It looks as though I will have to do a factory reset with my

Re: Per voiceover settings, not working on iPhone 14 or 14 pro for me

I am also having the problem on my iPhone 12. I tried two voices, the one I use regularly, Eloquence Reed, and Alex, which I have also used. I cannot get the per voice settings to work at all. It says that the settings are changing, but I hear no differences in the voice, as I did in the

Re: Per voiceover settings, not working on iPhone 14 or 14 pro for me

Yes I am also experiencing this problem. It looks as though I will have to do a factory reset with my sighted husband's help. Best wishes Paula Sent from Samsung Mobile on O2 Sent from Outlook for Android From: viphone@googlegroups.com

Per voiceover settings, not working on iPhone 14 or 14 pro for me

I know there are a couple others who have faced this problem. I know one completely erased their phone and reestablished it and that fixed it, but I really don’t want to erase everything on my phone. I called Apple support and accessibility a couple of days ago and they first thought it was

RE: Be my eyes new service

I don't see the problem either. If someone doesn't like the descriptions they're getting out of a service then they just don't need to use it. They can find another service that provides descriptions more to they're liking. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA -Original

Re: Be my eyes new service

I agree. The edited description you have below is much better than the original. Evan On 9/21/2023 7:23 PM, realman02 via VIPhone wrote: I am disturbe dby this description. I don’t want an AI tleling me something is “adorable” or “ugly” or “horrible” or any subjective description. Also.

Re: Be my eyes new service

I agree. The edited description you have below is much better than the original. Evan On 9/21/2023 7:23 PM, realman02 via VIPhone wrote: I am disturbe dby this description. I don’t want an AI tleling me something is “adorable” or “ugly” or “horrible” or any subjective description. Also.

Re: Be my eyes new service

I am able to query the AI that came up with the judgment. I frequently ask follow-up questions to get better clarification as to the descriptions I am being given. The important take away here is that we are ultimately responsible for making decisions for ourselves, we don't just rely on what

RE: Be my eyes new service

A well-trained human would not, or at least should not, write descriptions this way. Kathy Blackburn kblac...@austin.rr.comOn Sep 21, 2023 8:15 PM, realman02 via VIPhone wrote: > > The problem is that a non-human thing, Open AI, is making subjective > judgments about people and objects in

Re: Be my eyes new service

There is nothing wrong with it use it and what it says as a tool. > On Sep 21, 2023, at 9:15 PM, realman02 via VIPhone > wrote: > > The problem is that a non-human thing, Open AI, is making subjective > judgments about people and objects in pictures and there's no way to query > the AI why

Re: Issue With Spectrum Mobile App Accessibility

Hi Michael, I have two questions for you about the Spectrum TV app. 1.  Have you used it since Monday? 2.  Did you reboot the iPhone or did you close the Spectrum TV app and then restart it? When I did that, that's when the problem started. I had the app on my SE 2020 iPhone and I had to

Re: Be my eyes new service

I absolutely agree. There are some times when these kinds of judgments might be innocuous, like the one the original poster described. There are other times when they are literally disastrous, because facial expressions the world over or not the same. We do not want artificial intelligence

RE: Be my eyes new service

The problem is that a non-human thing, Open AI, is making subjective judgments about people and objects in pictures and there's no way to query the AI why it came up with that judgement. Plus I want to make my won judgements and don't want to be influenced by a machine. All I'm saying is that

VoiceOver And Assistive Touch

Hi all, I've been trying to setup my Apple Watch Ultra to use the new pinch, clench and other such gestures on my Apple watch. The problem is that all the places I've found to turn on Assistive Touch have the setting disabled. I've tried to change the setting on the watch, in my iPhone

Re: Be my eyes new service

I don't see the problem. On 9/21/23, realman02 via VIPhone wrote: > to you, she is, appropriately, loveable. But to Open AI? > > Really think about whether you want Be My Eyes to be giving value judgments > and subjective judgments to its descriptions. > > > > John > > From:

Re: iOS 16.6.1 health app no longer usable

Hello, Try IOS16.7, I have no problem Lyne > Le 21 sept. 2023 à 20:06, Donald Raikes a écrit : > -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is

Re: IPHONE UPDATE BROKEN MY PHONE

Thank you. A factory reset it is then. Best wishes Paula Sent from Samsung Mobile on O2 Sent from Outlook for Android From: viphone@googlegroups.com on behalf of Ivan Icin Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2023 9:54:17 PM To: VIPhone

RE: Be my eyes new service

to you, she is, appropriately, loveable. But to Open AI? Really think about whether you want Be My Eyes to be giving value judgments and subjective judgments to its descriptions. John From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Kellie Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2023 7:53 PM To:

iOS 16.6.1 health app no longer usable

I have been using the health app on my iPhone for quite a while to track my exercise and steps. As of Monday this week, the health app's main screen has drastically changed and I can't find th buttons I used to use to customize the favorites and there are random graphics or so it seems on the

Re: Be my eyes new service

How do you do that? Wher I can found that option? Lyne > Le 21 sept. 2023 à 19:53, Kellie a écrit : > > I guess to each their own. I find nothing wrong with the descriptions. I > have the intellect to know that it is simply artificial intelligence and I > can make up my own mind if it

Re: Be my eyes new service

I guess to each their own. I find nothing wrong with the descriptions. I have the intellect to know that it is simply artificial intelligence and I can make up my own mind if it really means they’re happy or sad, etc. I am very happy with the fact that I’m getting detailed descriptions, and it

RE: Be my eyes new service

I am disturbe dby this description. I don’t want an AI tleling me something is “adorable” or “ugly” or “horrible” or any subjective description. Also. “Soulful, curious, etc” are extremely troubling. This is how I want my AI to handle descriptions of people, animals and things: The

Be my eyes new service

I asked if this app could also describe photos on my iPhone and followed the directions given. I am absolutely amazed. Below is a description of the day. My current guide dog met his puppy raiser and her new pup. The details really bring the picture alive.The picture shows two adorable dogs

Re: IPHONE UPDATE BROKEN MY PHONE

Hi, The email is actually accessibil...@apple.com Considering the matter, I believe you're better off Colleen Apple. Feliciano For tech tips and updates: LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v Follow www.instagram/TheBlindMan12v those who are crazy enough to

Re: Issue With Spectrum Mobile App Accessibility

I can use spectrum tv app with no issues -- From: "Ron Canazzi" Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 6:15 PM To: Subject: Re: Issue With Spectrum Mobile App Accessibility Hi Group, The Spectrum mobile app (no spec connect or my spectrum in the

Re: Voiceover voice keeps switching between Alex and Samantha since upgrading

Mine did that on my 10R but it stopped once I got past face ID and passcode. - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" To: Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2023 10:58 AM Subject: Re: Voiceover voice keeps switching between Alex and Samantha since upgrading I do have languages in the

Re: IPHONE UPDATE BROKEN MY PHONE

Hi, I'm not sure if this is already been suggested. If you have access to a cited person for a few seconds, have them go in to voiceover settings and change the text to speech engine. I had this happen once while updating a clients phone. This is what fixed it. I used AIRA to help me navigate the

Re: IPHONE UPDATE BROKEN MY PHONE

As I get feedback from the user base of 10 users of my app that have it installed on the phone, I can confirm that there are people with the same problem, as I have received similar feedback from 2-3 users for whom Apple’s voices don’t produce any sound (one seem to have more limited

Re: IPHONE UPDATE BROKEN MY PHONE

I'vbe tried all that. I've written to disabil...@apple.com so hopefully they will reply. Thanks for your suggestions. Best wishes Paula Sent from Samsung Mobile on O2 Sent from Outlook for Android From: Paula Pinder Sent: Thursday,

RE: IPHONE UPDATE BROKEN MY PHONE

What happen if you ask Siri for the weather forecast? Is that getting read? If so, have you told Siri "Turn off Voiceover", then wait 5 or so seconds, activate Siri and say "Turn on Voiceover". If at that point you still don't hear Voiceover, do you have a wired headset you can plug into the

RE: IPHONE UPDATE BROKEN MY PHONE

Paula, have you called Apple Accessibility or, if you have an Apple Store nearby, just go there. I can assure you that updating to iOS 17 did not "break" your phone. Something happened which for some reason causes Voiceover not to speak, but I am 99.9% certain it can be fixed. From:

RE: Email address for reporting a bug?

Or use the Feedback app which you can get from the App Store if it's not on your iPhone already -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Kimberly Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2023 7:37 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Email address for reporting a bug?

RE: Email address for reporting a bug?

Ah, good points. It'll be interesting to see if the beta team is still taking feedback. I also try not to use the Accessibility email for non-accessibility issues, but sometimes it's hard to tell. I did that with Microsoft once, and when we started looking into it, it started touching on

IOS 17.0.1 is out finxing bugs!

That's it! Best, Leo Bado "Do not take life too seriously. You will never get out of it alive." Elbert Hubbard -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that

Re: Email address for reporting a bug?

I guess I could but I don't think it's an accessibility issue. Also when I went to fill out the form to report the bug I wasn't able to select iOS 17 because it wasn't a choice and I also couldn't select windows 11 because that wasn't a choice either. So I guess this one is going to go

RE: IPHONE UPDATE BROKEN MY PHONE

Or, could be Mute is turned on? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2023 9:32 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IPHONE UPDATE BROKEN MY PHONE Skipping the Android

RE: Email address for reporting a bug?

Since it's an IOS 17 bug, which has just been released, couldn't you use accessibil...@apple.com? -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2023 11:17 AM To:

RE: I O S 17/Messages App

My observation is that it will be permanently deleted across all of your devices in 30 days. Until then, you can recover it from the recently deleted view. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Thursday,

Re: Voiceover voice keeps switching between Alex and Samantha since upgrading

My below comments probably aren't worth much but I'll make them anyway. I've had some sort of audio issue with VoiceOver whether it is my selected voice not sounding the same as before the upgrade or something else for the last two or three major iOS upgrades. It normally takes a day or two

Re: Voiceover voice keeps switching between Alex and Samantha since upgrading

If I can ever figure out a pattern, I certainly will call Apple Accessibility. It’s very strange. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 21, 2023, at 10:09 AM, Richard Turner > wrote: > > I didn't really think that was what was happening, but thought I'd throw it > out there. > I gather this is also

RE: Voiceover voice keeps switching between Alex and Samantha since upgrading

I didn't really think that was what was happening, but thought I'd throw it out there. I gather this is also unpredictable so having Apple Accessibility sharing your screen to see it happen is not practicle... Very strange. Richard, USA. “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who

Re: IPHONE UPDATE BROKEN MY PHONE

Hi Alan No I haven't called them but it sounds like it would be worth a try. Thanks for the suggestion and I'm glad they helped you. Best wishes Paula Sent from Samsung Mobile on O2 Sent from Outlook for Android From:

Re: Voiceover voice keeps switching between Alex and Samantha since upgrading

I do have languages in the rotor, but that’s not what this is about. The language is not switching. It’s staying on the default which should be Alex. I have US English default for Alex. I also have Allison as a secondary US English voice, and of course I have a Russian voice. I have never seen

Re: IPHONE UPDATE BROKEN MY PHONE

Paula, I'm sorry if a factory reset is the only thing to get your iPhone talking again. Did you ever call Apple Accessibility and ask them to connect to your device to help with this issue. One time they helped me when VoiceOver volume got set to 0 when I was switching between the iPhone's

Re: Voiceover voice keeps switching between Alex and Samantha since upgrading

Do you have languages in the rotor? The only time I have voices changing suddenly is when the rotor ends up on languages and I accidently flick up or down and find the voice different. Richard, USA —— "While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John Wesley (Sent from my

Re: I O S 17/Messages App

I just went into Messages, double tapped on edit, and began flicking right with one finger and the third option was Show Recently Deleted Messages. I double tapped on that, and there were the recently deleted messages and when I touched a message and flick up with one finger I went through the

Re: Email address for reporting a bug?

There is no email address for that. You have to fill out a form at www.apple.com/feedback Richard, USA —— "While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John Wesley (Sent from my iPhone) > On Sep 21, 2023, at 7:37 AM, Kimberly wrote: > > Can someone give me the email

"per voice settings" in IOS 17 and Voice Dream Reader

Hi, I sent the following message to VDR support suppp...@voicedream.com in case anyone feels like making the same request. Hello. IOS 17 introduced "pur voice settings" for most built-in synthesizer. This settings allow for configurable parameters such as

Re: Please tell me how I put pictures in the main body of the email.

that was possible in Outlook express. I don't know if Outlook allows the insert iof pictures - Original Message - From: Jenny Bomareto To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2023 8:21 AM Subject: Re: Please tell me how I put pictures in the main body of the

Re: Are there really advantages to LiDAR?

I got a 13 Pro last year. I had in mind that I would use the LiDar functions to recognize things and people, but my life changed drastically last year and I haven't used those features more than a couple of times. I don't need a Pro level phone now. The next time I'm eligable for an upgrade, I'll

Voiceover voice keeps switching between Alex and Samantha since upgrading

Yesterday, I upgraded my iPad mini six to iOS 17. So far so good, except that for whatever reason, my default language voice which was sent to Alex, sometimes arbitrarily switches to Samantha. Not that I’m switching anything. Just navigating around the screen for some reason, sometimes language

I O S 17/Messages App

Hello all, I just upgraded yesterday, how do you permanently delete messages? Before you'd go to edit, and it would read, show recently deleted. When I go to edit, I see update name and photo, but there's no option to show or recover deleted messages. Noe -- The following information is

Email address for reporting a bug?

Can someone give me the email address for reporting a bug to Apple? I believe it's an iOS 17 bug and not an accessibility issue so I need the general bug report email address. Thanks. Since installing iOS 17 my phone is sometimes not ringing when I get a call. Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone ”

Re: Please tell me how I put pictures in the main body of the email.

I do not know of any other way to send pictures from a mobile device. I am assuming send as MMS is on in your message settings. Does the person have an iPhone that is receiving the messages? The only other way I could think of is saving the photo to Dropbox and sharing a link to them. Next, I

Re: Please tell me how I put pictures in the main body of the email.

Yes sir that’s what I’ve done. However, when I sent them the way, you explained, the person that I sent them to said that the pictures I sent could not be opened in the attachments, that’s why they were wanting it in the main body of the email. Referring to like say I was writing a new email when

Re: Please tell me how I put pictures in the main body of the email.

That is the correct way to do it. The pictures are attached, not really in the body of the message.Richard, USA ——"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John Wesley(Sent from my iPhone)On Sep 21, 2023, at 7:05 AM, John Panarese wrote:    I’m not sure what you are asking

Re: Please tell me how I put pictures in the main body of the email.

I’m not sure what you are asking here. If the photos are in a text message, double tap on each image. There will be a Share option on the next screen. Choose, Mail, from there to attach the photo to an email message. This is, if I am understanding you correctly. Take Care John D.

Fwd: Please tell me how I put pictures in the main body of the email.

FYI, see below. This is regarding known how I put pictures in the main body of an email. Thanks for reading regarding this matter. Jenny Bomareto Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: > From: Jenny Bomareto > Date: September 20, 2023 at 9:22:55 AM EDT > To: viphone@googlegroups.com >

Re: IPHONE UPDATE BROKEN MY PHONE

Hi Richard. Thanks for your reply. I have tried what you suggested. I think the only thing left to do is factory reset the phone. Best wishes Paula Sent from Samsung Mobile on O2 Sent from Outlook for Android From:

Re: Has anyone saw the last two emails I posted to the group, as I have not heard from anyone yet.

What were the messages? If we didn't see them, you could repeat them or at least mention what they concerned? I do not recall seeing any messages from you recently.Richard, USA ——"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John Wesley(Sent from my iPhone)On Sep 21, 2023, at 6:14 

Re: IPHONE UPDATE BROKEN MY PHONE

Skipping the Android reference, if the VoiceOver sounds are playing, either speech is muted which can be unmuted with a three finger double tap; or the volume got turned down too low. To check the volume, Flick up with two fingers which will start reading at the top of the screen, and immediately

Re: IPHONE UPDATE BROKEN MY PHONE

Thanks all for your messages. I can't go back to IOS as my iPhone has stopped talking and I have tried everything everyone suggested. Best wishes Paula Sent from Samsung Mobile on O2 Sent from Outlook for Android From:

RE: IPHONE UPDATE BROKEN MY PHONE

First this isn’t an android list.Second I would just switch back to iOS. You wouldn’t have this problem on iOS. You can attempt contacting Google accessibility but if you have the experience Jonathan Mosen and others who called his show have had good luck. From: viphone@googlegroups.com

RE: Be My AI

It does a great job at describing pictures on my phone, at least ones that do not have people in them. If you go to the share option while going through your photos, one of the options will be describe with be my eyes. The detail that is provided is pretty amazing -Original Message-

Has anyone saw the last two emails I posted to the group, as I have not heard from anyone yet.

Thanks for reading regarding this matter. Jenny Bomareto Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please