Re: Dictation and Siri acting weird on my IPhone 14 which I've rebooted

[Alex Stone]

Sorry Chela, I knew that, but I didn’t realise who you were when I replied.

> On 27 Apr 2024, at 20:05, Chela Robles  wrote:
> 
> I already solved the issue Alex thanks to the prior solution given by 
> someone else.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 27, 2024, at 8:19 AM, Alex Stone  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Why do you want to clear it? It’s not doing any harm.
>> 
 On 26 Apr 2024, at 14:42, Chela Robles  wrote:
>>> 
>>> When I go to the status bar running IOS 17.4.1 I see microphone in use, 
>>> then I tap it and it displays siri and dictation are in use but there is no 
>>> way to clear it. Unless I manually power off the device in settings general 
>>> shut down.
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Apr 26, 2024, at 6:07 AM, Chela Robles  wrote:
 
 Whenever I try to use dictation from the keyboard that is onscreen, for 
 some reason, it's not working properly as it should. Also, Siri is acting 
 up, just hangs when I press the power button but I will try "hey" command 
 next if that solves my issue, but am generally wondering if Apple has an 
 outage of some sort like they did in the past in regards to dictation and 
 siri? I did restart my phone and still have the same problem. Using iphone 
 14. I can't even summon apps to be launched with siri.  Any thoughts?
 Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Dictation and Siri acting weird on my IPhone 14 which I've rebooted

[Chela Robles]

I already solved the issue Alex thanks to the prior solution given by someone 
else. 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 27, 2024, at 8:19 AM, Alex Stone  
> wrote:
> 
> Why do you want to clear it? It’s not doing any harm.
> 
>> On 26 Apr 2024, at 14:42, Chela Robles  wrote:
>> 
>> When I go to the status bar running IOS 17.4.1 I see microphone in use, 
>> then I tap it and it displays siri and dictation are in use but there is no 
>> way to clear it. Unless I manually power off the device in settings general 
>> shut down.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Apr 26, 2024, at 6:07 AM, Chela Robles  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Whenever I try to use dictation from the keyboard that is onscreen, for 
>>> some reason, it's not working properly as it should. Also, Siri is acting 
>>> up, just hangs when I press the power button but I will try "hey" command 
>>> next if that solves my issue, but am generally wondering if Apple has an 
>>> outage of some sort like they did in the past in regards to dictation and 
>>> siri? I did restart my phone and still have the same problem. Using iphone 
>>> 14. I can't even summon apps to be launched with siri.  Any thoughts?
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Dictation and Siri acting weird on my IPhone 14 which I've rebooted

[Alex Stone]

Why do you want to clear it? It’s not doing any harm.

> On 26 Apr 2024, at 14:42, Chela Robles  wrote:
> 
> When I go to the status bar running IOS 17.4.1 I see microphone in use, then 
> I tap it and it displays siri and dictation are in use but there is no way to 
> clear it. Unless I manually power off the device in settings general shut 
> down.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 26, 2024, at 6:07 AM, Chela Robles  wrote:
>> 
>> Whenever I try to use dictation from the keyboard that is onscreen, for 
>> some reason, it's not working properly as it should. Also, Siri is acting 
>> up, just hangs when I press the power button but I will try "hey" command 
>> next if that solves my issue, but am generally wondering if Apple has an 
>> outage of some sort like they did in the past in regards to dictation and 
>> siri? I did restart my phone and still have the same problem. Using iphone 
>> 14. I can't even summon apps to be launched with siri.  Any thoughts?
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Dictation and Siri acting weird on my IPhone 14 which I've rebooted

[Chela Robles]

Thank you for the fix it worked that was so weird. Never had this issue before. 
Bookmarking This for future reference.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 26, 2024, at 6:41 AM, Chela Robles  wrote:
> 
> When I go to the status bar running IOS 17.4.1 I see microphone in use, then 
> I tap it and it displays siri and dictation are in use but there is no way to 
> clear it. Unless I manually power off the device in settings general shut 
> down.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 26, 2024, at 6:07 AM, Chela Robles  wrote:
>> 
>> Whenever I try to use dictation from the keyboard that is onscreen, for 
>> some reason, it's not working properly as it should. Also, Siri is acting 
>> up, just hangs when I press the power button but I will try "hey" command 
>> next if that solves my issue, but am generally wondering if Apple has an 
>> outage of some sort like they did in the past in regards to dictation and 
>> siri? I did restart my phone and still have the same problem. Using iphone 
>> 14. I can't even summon apps to be launched with siri.  Any thoughts?
>> Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Dictation and Siri acting weird on my IPhone 14 which I've rebooted

[Chela Robles]

When I go to the status bar running IOS 17.4.1 I see microphone in use, then I 
tap it and it displays siri and dictation are in use but there is no way to 
clear it. Unless I manually power off the device in settings general shut down.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 26, 2024, at 6:07 AM, Chela Robles  wrote:
> 
> Whenever I try to use dictation from the keyboard that is onscreen, for some 
> reason, it's not working properly as it should. Also, Siri is acting up, just 
> hangs when I press the power button but I will try "hey" command next if that 
> solves my issue, but am generally wondering if Apple has an outage of some 
> sort like they did in the past in regards to dictation and siri? I did 
> restart my phone and still have the same problem. Using iphone 14. I can't 
> even summon apps to be launched with siri.  Any thoughts?
> Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Dictation and Siri acting weird on my IPhone 14 which I've rebooted

[Barbara Stahl]

Are you using Wi-Fi if so try turning that off and then back on again maybe 
it's the Internet connection you could also try turning Siri off and then back 
on again and you might be able to do the same thing with with dictation in 
settings

> On Apr 26, 2024, at 9:08 AM, Chela Robles  wrote:
> 
> Whenever I try to use dictation from the keyboard that is onscreen, for some 
> reason, it's not working properly as it should. Also, Siri is acting up, just 
> hangs when I press the power button but I will try "hey" command next if that 
> solves my issue, but am generally wondering if Apple has an outage of some 
> sort like they did in the past in regards to dictation and siri? I did 
> restart my phone and still have the same problem. Using iphone 14. I can't 
> even summon apps to be launched with siri.  Any thoughts?
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Dictation With All Caps?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Has never worked for me, either.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mohammad 
Fazil
Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2023 6:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Dictation With All Caps?

Hi, Group.
How can I do all caps dictation.
If I say all caps and dictate ‘my heart felt gratitude’, VO types my in all 
caps only.
What Should I say in order to have the entire phrase in caps, please?
What should I say for start all caps and end all caps?
Thanks!
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Re: dictation bug in ios 16.1

[Kimberly Gardner]

I always start dictation by double tapping the dictation button then
use the two-finger double tap to end and have had no issues with this
method.

Kim

On 10/26/22, davycupp...@gmail.com  wrote:
> Hi Sieghard
>
>
>
> I can mostly confirm, please try to do a one finger double tap on the
> dicatation button itselves and see what you get?
>
> Davy
>
>
>
> Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Sieghard
> Weitzel
> Verzonden: woensdag 26 oktober 2022 10:53
> Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Onderwerp: RE: dictation bug in ios 16.1
>
>
>
> I don't have this issue on my iPhone 11. I do get audio playback at times
> when I use a 2-finger double tap to stop dictation, otherwise it works.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
> mi...@eastlink.ca <mailto:mi...@eastlink.ca>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2022 10:51 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: dictation bug in ios 16.1
>
>
>
> Hi yes I have and it is still there. From Mich.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: October 26, 2022 1:02 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: dictation bug in ios 16.1
>
>
>
> Have you rebooted your phone after the update?
>
>
>
> From: 'Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2022 4:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: dictation bug in ios 16.1
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I have had that issue since yesterday when I installed 16.1. It also makes
> intermittent beeps or some sort of tone sometimes if the dictation is long
> enough.
>
> I am finding Dictation to be problematic in a variety of apps including
> mail, reminders, and messages.
>
> Merv
>
>
>
>
>
> On Oct 25, 2022, at 7:19 PM, mi...@eastlink.ca <mailto:mi...@eastlink.ca>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi all I just found a dictation bug in ios 16.1 has any one elts found that
> when they try to dictate a message that they loose all function  with vo?
> When I am dictateing a message and once I am dun and dubble tap it again
> that juring the dictation process vo go’s scilent and doesn’t come back
> until you get out of the dictation moad. I am wondering if this is a bug.
> From Mich.
>
>
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RE: dictation bug in ios 16.1

[davycuppens]

Hi Sieghard 

 

I can mostly confirm, please try to do a one finger double tap on the 
dicatation button itselves and see what you get?

Davy 

 

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Verzonden: woensdag 26 oktober 2022 10:53
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: RE: dictation bug in ios 16.1

 

I don't have this issue on my iPhone 11. I do get audio playback at times when 
I use a 2-finger double tap to stop dictation, otherwise it works.

 

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Hi yes I have and it is still there. From Mich.

 

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Subject: RE: dictation bug in ios 16.1

 

Have you rebooted your phone after the update?

 

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Subject: Re: dictation bug in ios 16.1

 

Hi,

I have had that issue since yesterday when I installed 16.1. It also makes 
intermittent beeps or some sort of tone sometimes if the dictation is long 
enough. 

I am finding Dictation to be problematic in a variety of apps including mail, 
reminders, and messages.

Merv

 

 

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wrote:

 

Hi all I just found a dictation bug in ios 16.1 has any one elts found that 
when they try to dictate a message that they loose all function  with vo? When 
I am dictateing a message and once I am dun and dubble tap it again that juring 
the dictation process vo go’s scilent and doesn’t come back until you get out 
of the dictation moad. I am wondering if this is a bug. From Mich.

 

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RE: dictation bug in ios 16.1

[davycuppens]

I can confirm this bug, but indeed it helps sometimes not always as you do the 
dictation not to trigger the dictation button but just do a 2 finger tap on the 
screen to start and stop but please do all report to accessibility and do it 
NOOOW!

Davy 

 

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Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: RE: dictation bug in ios 16.1

 

Have you rebooted your phone after the update?

 

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Subject: Re: dictation bug in ios 16.1

 

Hi,

I have had that issue since yesterday when I installed 16.1. It also makes 
intermittent beeps or some sort of tone sometimes if the dictation is long 
enough. 

I am finding Dictation to be problematic in a variety of apps including mail, 
reminders, and messages.

Merv

 

 

On Oct 25, 2022, at 7:19 PM, mi...@eastlink.ca <mailto:mi...@eastlink.ca>  
wrote:

 

Hi all I just found a dictation bug in ios 16.1 has any one elts found that 
when they try to dictate a message that they loose all function  with vo? When 
I am dictateing a message and once I am dun and dubble tap it again that juring 
the dictation process vo go’s scilent and doesn’t come back until you get out 
of the dictation moad. I am wondering if this is a bug. From Mich.

 

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RE: dictation bug in ios 16.1

[chrisjudge1967]

I have a 13 pro and have not noticed any issues with dictation. I use the magic 
tap method to start and stop it.

 

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I don't have this issue on my iPhone 11. I do get audio playback at times when 
I use a 2-finger double tap to stop dictation, otherwise it works.

 

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Hi yes I have and it is still there. From Mich.

 

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Have you rebooted your phone after the update?

 

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: dictation bug in ios 16.1

 

Hi,

I have had that issue since yesterday when I installed 16.1. It also makes 
intermittent beeps or some sort of tone sometimes if the dictation is long 
enough. 

I am finding Dictation to be problematic in a variety of apps including mail, 
reminders, and messages.

Merv

 

 

On Oct 25, 2022, at 7:19 PM, mi...@eastlink.ca <mailto:mi...@eastlink.ca>  
wrote:

 

Hi all I just found a dictation bug in ios 16.1 has any one elts found that 
when they try to dictate a message that they loose all function  with vo? When 
I am dictateing a message and once I am dun and dubble tap it again that juring 
the dictation process vo go’s scilent and doesn’t come back until you get out 
of the dictation moad. I am wondering if this is a bug. From Mich.

 

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RE: dictation bug in ios 16.1

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I don't have this issue on my iPhone 11. I do get audio playback at times when 
I use a 2-finger double tap to stop dictation, otherwise it works.

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Hi yes I have and it is still there. From Mich.

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Have you rebooted your phone after the update?

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Hi,
I have had that issue since yesterday when I installed 16.1. It also makes 
intermittent beeps or some sort of tone sometimes if the dictation is long 
enough.
I am finding Dictation to be problematic in a variety of apps including mail, 
reminders, and messages.
Merv


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I am dictateing a message and once I am dun and dubble tap it again that juring 
the dictation process vo go’s scilent and doesn’t come back until you get out 
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RE: dictation bug in ios 16.1

[michv]

Hi yes I have and it is still there. From Mich.

 

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Weitzel
Sent: October 26, 2022 1:02 AM
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Have you rebooted your phone after the update?

 

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Hi,

I have had that issue since yesterday when I installed 16.1. It also makes 
intermittent beeps or some sort of tone sometimes if the dictation is long 
enough. 

I am finding Dictation to be problematic in a variety of apps including mail, 
reminders, and messages.

Merv

 

 

On Oct 25, 2022, at 7:19 PM, mi...@eastlink.ca <mailto:mi...@eastlink.ca>  
wrote:

 

Hi all I just found a dictation bug in ios 16.1 has any one elts found that 
when they try to dictate a message that they loose all function  with vo? When 
I am dictateing a message and once I am dun and dubble tap it again that juring 
the dictation process vo go’s scilent and doesn’t come back until you get out 
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RE: dictation bug in ios 16.1

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Have you rebooted your phone after the update?

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Hi,
I have had that issue since yesterday when I installed 16.1. It also makes 
intermittent beeps or some sort of tone sometimes if the dictation is long 
enough.
I am finding Dictation to be problematic in a variety of apps including mail, 
reminders, and messages.
Merv



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Hi all I just found a dictation bug in ios 16.1 has any one elts found that 
when they try to dictate a message that they loose all function  with vo? When 
I am dictateing a message and once I am dun and dubble tap it again that juring 
the dictation process vo go’s scilent and doesn’t come back until you get out 
of the dictation moad. I am wondering if this is a bug. From Mich.

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Re: dictation bug in ios 16.1

[Gordon]

It seems to be working fine for me as long as I use the two finger 
double tap to start and stop dictation.


On 10/25/2022 6:56 PM, 'Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone wrote:

Hi,
I have had that issue since yesterday when I installed 16.1. It also 
makes intermittent beeps or some sort of tone sometimes if the 
dictation is long enough.
I am finding Dictation to be problematic in a variety of apps 
including mail, reminders, and messages.

Merv



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Hi all I just found a dictation bug in ios 16.1 has any one elts 
found that when they try to dictate a message that they loose all 
function  with vo? When I am dictateing a message and once I am dun 
and dubble tap it again that juring the dictation process vo go’s 
scilent and doesn’t come back until you get out of the dictation 
moad. I am wondering if this is a bug. From Mich.


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Re: dictation bug in ios 16.1

['Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone]

Hi,
I have had that issue since yesterday when I installed 16.1. It also makes 
intermittent beeps or some sort of tone sometimes if the dictation is long 
enough. 
I am finding Dictation to be problematic in a variety of apps including mail, 
reminders, and messages.
Merv


> On Oct 25, 2022, at 7:19 PM, mi...@eastlink.ca wrote:
> 
> Hi all I just found a dictation bug in ios 16.1 has any one elts found that 
> when they try to dictate a message that they loose all function  with vo? 
> When I am dictateing a message and once I am dun and dubble tap it again that 
> juring the dictation process vo go’s scilent and doesn’t come back until you 
> get out of the dictation moad. I am wondering if this is a bug. From Mich.
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RE: dictation bug in ios 16.1

[Richard Turner]

Are you talking about text messages?

 

How are you starting the dictation?

How are you stopping the dictation?

 

Having exact steps will make it easier to try to duplicate it.

 

 

 

 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
mi...@eastlink.ca
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2022 4:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: dictation bug in ios 16.1

 

Hi all I just found a dictation bug in ios 16.1 has any one elts found that 
when they try to dictate a message that they loose all function  with vo? When 
I am dictateing a message and once I am dun and dubble tap it again that juring 
the dictation process vo go’s scilent and doesn’t come back until you get out 
of the dictation moad. I am wondering if this is a bug. From Mich.

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RE: Dictation in upcoming IOS version

[Richard Turner]

I honestly do not use dictation a ton, but I have not found the issues others 
are reporting in 16.0.3.  I can stop and start and not lose my place.

I chose not to do the betas since I only have one device.




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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2022 11:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dictation in upcoming IOS version

I used to use dictation for text messages all the time.  However, since getting 
my Hable One, I don't use dictation any more.  IOS 16 certainly has some bugs 
to work out.

On 10/20/22, Julian  wrote:
> Not to mention that more than half the time when you do the two finger 
> double tap to stop dictation, music starts playing. Overall, dictation 
> under iOS 16.1 is definitely become a bit erratic. Despite many of us 
> I am certain reporting it to Apple via the Feedback app.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Oct 19, 2022, at 8:25 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>
>> That is interesting, apart from not being able to currently edit a 
>> text message if I use Siri entirely to send it I have no issues with 
>> dictation not working as always on my iPhone 11. It starts right away 
>> and ends when I do a 2-finger double tap to stop it. I don't recall 
>> that it puts me in different spots in the edit field and it seems to 
>> work as accurately for me as it always has which means it does make 
>> mistakes, but not more than in iOS 15 at least not so I'd notice.
>> I use dictation all the time by the way, often for text messages 
>> which mostly are shorter, but also for emails and sometimes I will 
>> dictate longer emails.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Gordon
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2022 8:12 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Dictation in upcoming IOS version
>>
>> I spoke with Mark last night and cleared this with him based on the 
>> nature of the issue. So as you know IOS 16.1 will be arriving on 
>> Monday for the public. right now us beta testers are working with 
>> what is called the release candidate. this is the final version that 
>> will go public. I'm experiencing huge issues with dictation. If 
>> dictation is something you rely on on a daily basis, you might want 
>> to follow this group closely once this version goes public instead of 
>> getting it yourself right away. Some of the issues I'm facing are as 
>> follows. Huge inaccuracies, long delays when starting and stopping 
>> dictation and placing you in different positions within the edit box if you 
>> start and stop dictation frequently.
>> I imagine that we probably have users here on the group who use their 
>> phones for work and other things where they need dictation to work 
>> well for them. And especially for those who might deal with issues 
>> relating to their fingers not being able to type all that well and rely on 
>> dictation.
>> It's not guaranteed that the version I have will go out on Monday 
>> because they could either fix this or push out another release 
>> candidate before the weekend. So I will let you know sometime this 
>> weekend if things are a little better so you can have the information 
>> on Monday when the software is available for your device. I just 
>> wanted to get this information out here now for those who might not 
>> check the group every day. I just didn't want anyone to be stuck with 
>> this if dictation hasn't improved and you need it to work well for 
>> how you use your phone. I've never seen it this busted since I've been an 
>> IOS user going back to 2016.
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Re: Dictation in upcoming IOS version

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I used to use dictation for text messages all the time.  However,
since getting my Hable One, I don't use dictation any more.  IOS 16
certainly has some bugs to work out.

On 10/20/22, Julian  wrote:
> Not to mention that more than half the time when you do the two finger
> double tap to stop dictation, music starts playing. Overall, dictation under
> iOS 16.1 is definitely become a bit erratic. Despite many of us I am certain
> reporting it to Apple via the Feedback app.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Oct 19, 2022, at 8:25 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>
>> That is interesting, apart from not being able to currently edit a text
>> message if I use Siri entirely to send it I have no issues with dictation
>> not working as always on my iPhone 11. It starts right away and ends when
>> I do a 2-finger double tap to stop it. I don't recall that it puts me in
>> different spots in the edit field and it seems to work as accurately for
>> me as it always has which means it does make mistakes, but not more than
>> in iOS 15 at least not so I'd notice.
>> I use dictation all the time by the way, often for text messages which
>> mostly are shorter, but also for emails and sometimes I will dictate
>> longer emails.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Gordon
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2022 8:12 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Dictation in upcoming IOS version
>>
>> I spoke with Mark last night and cleared this with him based on the nature
>> of the issue. So as you know IOS 16.1 will be arriving on Monday for the
>> public. right now us beta testers are working with what is called the
>> release candidate. this is the final version that will go public. I'm
>> experiencing huge issues with dictation. If dictation is something you
>> rely on on a daily basis, you might want to follow this group closely once
>> this version goes public instead of getting it yourself right away. Some
>> of the issues I'm facing are as follows. Huge inaccuracies, long delays
>> when starting and stopping dictation and placing you in different
>> positions within the edit box if you start and stop dictation frequently.
>> I imagine that we probably have users here on the group who use their
>> phones for work and other things where they need dictation to work well
>> for them. And especially for those who might deal with issues relating to
>> their fingers not being able to type all that well and rely on dictation.
>> It's not guaranteed that the version I have will go out on Monday because
>> they could either fix this or push out another release candidate before
>> the weekend. So I will let you know sometime this weekend if things are a
>> little better so you can have the information on Monday when the software
>> is available for your device. I just wanted to get this information out
>> here now for those who might not check the group every day. I just didn't
>> want anyone to be stuck with this if dictation hasn't improved and you
>> need it to work well for how you use your phone. I've never seen it this
>> busted since I've been an IOS user going back to 2016.
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Re: Dictation in upcoming IOS version

[Julian]

Not to mention that more than half the time when you do the two finger double 
tap to stop dictation, music starts playing. Overall, dictation under iOS 16.1 
is definitely become a bit erratic. Despite many of us I am certain reporting 
it to Apple via the Feedback app.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 19, 2022, at 8:25 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> That is interesting, apart from not being able to currently edit a text 
> message if I use Siri entirely to send it I have no issues with dictation not 
> working as always on my iPhone 11. It starts right away and ends when I do a 
> 2-finger double tap to stop it. I don't recall that it puts me in different 
> spots in the edit field and it seems to work as accurately for me as it 
> always has which means it does make mistakes, but not more than in iOS 15 at 
> least not so I'd notice.
> I use dictation all the time by the way, often for text messages which mostly 
> are shorter, but also for emails and sometimes I will dictate longer emails.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gordon
> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2022 8:12 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Dictation in upcoming IOS version
> 
> I spoke with Mark last night and cleared this with him based on the nature of 
> the issue. So as you know IOS 16.1 will be arriving on Monday for the public. 
> right now us beta testers are working with what is called the release 
> candidate. this is the final version that will go public. I'm experiencing 
> huge issues with dictation. If dictation is something you rely on on a daily 
> basis, you might want to follow this group closely once this version goes 
> public instead of getting it yourself right away. Some of the issues I'm 
> facing are as follows. Huge inaccuracies, long delays when starting and 
> stopping dictation and placing you in different positions within the edit box 
> if you start and stop dictation frequently. I imagine that we probably have 
> users here on the group who use their phones for work and other things where 
> they need dictation to work well for them. And especially for those who might 
> deal with issues relating to their fingers not being able to type all that 
> well and rely on dictation. It's not guaranteed that the version I have will 
> go out on Monday because they could either fix this or push out another 
> release candidate before the weekend. So I will let you know sometime this 
> weekend if things are a little better so you can have the information on 
> Monday when the software is available for your device. I just wanted to get 
> this information out here now for those who might not check the group every 
> day. I just didn't want anyone to be stuck with this if dictation hasn't 
> improved and you need it to work well for how you use your phone. I've never 
> seen it this busted since I've been an IOS user going back to 2016.
> 
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RE: Dictation in upcoming IOS version

[Sieghard Weitzel]

That is interesting, apart from not being able to currently edit a text message 
if I use Siri entirely to send it I have no issues with dictation not working 
as always on my iPhone 11. It starts right away and ends when I do a 2-finger 
double tap to stop it. I don't recall that it puts me in different spots in the 
edit field and it seems to work as accurately for me as it always has which 
means it does make mistakes, but not more than in iOS 15 at least not so I'd 
notice.
I use dictation all the time by the way, often for text messages which mostly 
are shorter, but also for emails and sometimes I will dictate longer emails.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gordon
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2022 8:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Dictation in upcoming IOS version

I spoke with Mark last night and cleared this with him based on the nature of 
the issue. So as you know IOS 16.1 will be arriving on Monday for the public. 
right now us beta testers are working with what is called the release 
candidate. this is the final version that will go public. I'm experiencing huge 
issues with dictation. If dictation is something you rely on on a daily basis, 
you might want to follow this group closely once this version goes public 
instead of getting it yourself right away. Some of the issues I'm facing are as 
follows. Huge inaccuracies, long delays when starting and stopping dictation 
and placing you in different positions within the edit box if you start and 
stop dictation frequently. I imagine that we probably have users here on the 
group who use their phones for work and other things where they need dictation 
to work well for them. And especially for those who might deal with issues 
relating to their fingers not being able to type all that well and rely on 
dictation. It's not guaranteed that the version I have will go out on Monday 
because they could either fix this or push out another release candidate before 
the weekend. So I will let you know sometime this weekend if things are a 
little better so you can have the information on Monday when the software is 
available for your device. I just wanted to get this information out here now 
for those who might not check the group every day. I just didn't want anyone to 
be stuck with this if dictation hasn't improved and you need it to work well 
for how you use your phone. I've never seen it this busted since I've been an 
IOS user going back to 2016.

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Re: Dictation in upcoming IOS version

[Mary Otten]

Thank you so much. I do rely on dictation a lot. Up until this year, I have 
been beta testing. But since they disqualified my 7+, and I’m not willing to 
put it on my working phone, I did not beat a test. So I truly appreciate you 
posting this. Having dictation not work would be a total an absolute 
showstopper for me. I mean this is ridiculous.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 19, 2022, at 8:12 PM, Gordon  wrote:
> 
> I spoke with Mark last night and cleared this with him based on the nature 
> of the issue. So as you know IOS 16.1 will be arriving on Monday for the 
> public. right now us beta testers are working with what is called the release 
> candidate. this is the final version that will go public. I'm experiencing 
> huge issues with dictation. If dictation is something you rely on on a daily 
> basis, you might want to follow this group closely once this version goes 
> public instead of getting it yourself right away. Some of the issues I'm 
> facing are as follows. Huge inaccuracies, long delays when starting and 
> stopping dictation and placing you in different positions within the edit box 
> if you start and stop dictation frequently. I imagine that we probably have 
> users here on the group who use their phones for work and other things where 
> they need dictation to work well for them. And especially for those who might 
> deal with issues relating to their fingers not being able to type all that 
> well and rely on dictation. It's not guaranteed that the version I have will 
> go out on Monday because they could either fix this or push out another 
> release candidate before the weekend. So I will let you know sometime this 
> weekend if things are a little better so you can have the information on 
> Monday when the software is available for your device. I just wanted to get 
> this information out here now for those who might not check the group every 
> day. I just didn't want anyone to be stuck with this if dictation hasn't 
> improved and you need it to work well for how you use your phone. I've never 
> seen it this busted since I've been an IOS user going back to 2016.
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Re: dictation does not work any more

[curmudgeon]

lol hey i fixed it
first turned dictation back on and restarted phone ta da 
have a great day 

On Oct 2, 2022, at 9:54 AM, Tom Lange  wrote:


hey curmudgeon, dictation is still working for me. I’m using dictation as I 
write this email. All I did to activate dictation was to do a two finger double 
tap on the screen didn’t matter where.
> On Oct 2, 2022, at 7:01 AM, Thom Spittle  wrote:
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> On iOS 16, the dictate button is where the send button was about a third of 
> the way from the bottom on the right hand side
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> just bought 12 se 3 gen and now dictation does not work for text messages 
>> and email 
>> any suggestions 
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Re: dictation does not work any more

[curmudgeon]

On Oct 2, 2022, at 9:54 AM, Tom Lange  wrote:


hey curmudgeon, dictation is still working for me. I’m using dictation as I 
write this email. All I did to activate dictation was to do a two finger double 
tap on the screen didn’t matter where.
> On Oct 2, 2022, at 7:01 AM, Thom Spittle  wrote:
> 
> On iOS 16, the dictate button is where the send button was about a third of 
> the way from the bottom on the right hand side
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 2, 2022, at 9:49 AM, curmudgeon  wrote:
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>> and email 
>> any suggestions 
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dictation stopped with new phone wether i use two finger double tap which is 
the way i normally dictate 
or find dictation button voiceover says thinking 
and now some how i made the dictation button disappear 
lol om.

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Re: dictation does not work any more

[Tom Lange]

hey curmudgeon, dictation is still working for me. I’m using dictation as I 
write this email. All I did to activate dictation was to do a two finger double 
tap on the screen didn’t matter where.
> On Oct 2, 2022, at 7:01 AM, Thom Spittle  wrote:
> 
> On iOS 16, the dictate button is where the send button was about a third of 
> the way from the bottom on the right hand side
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> and email 
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Re: dictation does not work any more

[Thom Spittle]

On iOS 16, the dictate button is where the send button was about a third of the 
way from the bottom on the right hand side

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 2, 2022, at 9:49 AM, curmudgeon  wrote:
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RE: Dictation does not work in Facebook.

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I've been having this issue as well, as recently as two days ago.  I'll try it 
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of joseph 
hudson
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2022 9:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dictation does not work in Facebook.
Importance: High

Not really for sure, something that happened and on Facebook update is all I 
know.

> On May 25, 2022, at 6:42 PM, goshawk on horseback 
>  wrote:
> 
> have been having this aggravation also, and it has been driving me mad over 
> this last week or so. does anyone actually know what caused this issue?
> 
> Simon
> 
> 
> - Original Message - From: "joseph hudson" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2022 9:47 PM
> Subject: Re: Dictation does not work in Facebook.
> 
> 
>> Hello, I and several other people have noticed this. But I saw as of last 
>> night, that it was fixed now.
>> 
>>> On May 18, 2022, at 7:40 AM, Pete Nalda  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> Just wondering anyone else has noticed this. I have an iPhone 12 promax 
>>> with iOS 154.1.
>>> 
>>> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda 
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Re: Dictation does not work in Facebook.

[joseph hudson]

Not really for sure, something that happened and on Facebook update is all I 
know.

> On May 25, 2022, at 6:42 PM, goshawk on horseback 
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> have been having this aggravation also, and it has been driving me mad over 
> this last week or so. does anyone actually know what caused this issue?
> 
> Simon
> 
> 
> - Original Message - From: "joseph hudson" 
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> Subject: Re: Dictation does not work in Facebook.
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Re: Dictation does not work in Facebook.

[goshawk on horseback]

have been having this aggravation also, and it has been driving me mad over 
this last week or so. does anyone actually know what caused this issue?


Simon


- Original Message - 
From: "joseph hudson" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2022 9:47 PM
Subject: Re: Dictation does not work in Facebook.


Hello, I and several other people have noticed this. But I saw as of last 
night, that it was fixed now.



On May 18, 2022, at 7:40 AM, Pete Nalda  wrote:

Hello,
Just wondering anyone else has noticed this. I have an iPhone 12 promax 
with iOS 154.1.


Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
Louie P (Pete) Nalda
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Re: Dictation does not work in Facebook.

[joseph hudson]

Hello, I and several other people have noticed this. But I saw as of last 
night, that it was fixed now.

> On May 18, 2022, at 7:40 AM, Pete Nalda  wrote:
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> Hello,
> Just wondering anyone else has noticed this. I have an iPhone 12 promax with 
> iOS 154.1. 
> 
> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
> Louie P (Pete) Nalda
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RE: Dictation?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

May be Apple doing things, my recommendation would be to upgrade to iOS 15 
where all of this is done on device now and SIRI for requests as well as 
dictation is way more responsive in my opinion. Since I upgraded I never once 
had SIRI tell me "One moment please" while it was trying to process a simple 
request.
I should mention however that I think you need at least an iPhone X or XR for 
this, I don't think it works on the iPhone 8.

-Original Message-
From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone  
Sent: September 27, 2021 1:19 PM
To: viphone 
Subject: Dictation?

Is there an issue with the servers for Dictation processing?  mine hasn't 
worked all day on anyof my devices.
Can browse and get mail, so not a connection issue.

But thisis so fundamental for getting messages done fairly quickly.

Thanks, RobH.

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Re: Dictation?

[Barbara Stahl]

I have been using dictation today and so far it has worked fine for me. 
Try turning off your phone and turning it back on again after a couple of 
minutes. often, that fixes issues that come up.  

> On Sep 27, 2021, at 4:18 PM, 'RobH.' via VIPhone  
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> Is there an issue with the servers for Dictation processing?  mine hasn't 
> worked all day on anyof my devices.
> Can browse and get mail, so not a connection issue.
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> But thisis so fundamental for getting messages done fairly quickly.
> 
> Thanks, RobH.
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Re: Dictation question

[Richard Turner]

Once you are in any edit field with the onscreen keyboard present, a two finger 
double tap will start or stop dictation, and the dictation is smart enough to 
pick up where you stopped if you do not do something to move the VoiceOver 
focus.
I seldom bother with finding the dictate button since the two finger double tap 
just works.
And dictation is separate from Siri, so you are good to go.



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On May 12, 2021, at 9:48 AM, Holly  wrote:


Siegard:

Thanks for the correction.

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Re: Dictation question

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Siegard:

Thanks for the correction.

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RE: Dictation question

[Sieghard Weitzel]

To be precise the command "new line" will insert a line break, same as pressing 
enter on the keyboard, if you want a new paragraph you would have to say "new 
paragraph" which inserts a blank line, same as pressing enter twice on a 
keyboard and this is what is considered a new paragraph.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Holly
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2021 9:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; 0holly feyk 
Subject: Re: Dictation question

You can’t do that with Siri.  Go into your message app and dictate from there.  
You can stop and start with a single double tap on the ‘dictate’ button on the 
keyboard, to start, and a two finger double tap anywhere on the screen to stop. 
 You can just dictate a new paragraph by just saying ‘new line’.

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Re: Dictation question

[Holly]

You can’t do that with Siri.  Go into your message app and dictate from there.  
You can stop and start with a single double tap on the ‘dictate’ button on the 
keyboard, to start, and a two finger double tap anywhere on the screen to stop. 
 You can just dictate a new paragraph by just saying ‘new line’.

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Re: Dictation feature on my iPhone

[Richard Turner]

It works fine for me. Do you have a bluetooth keyboard or braille display 
connected? That would hide the onscreen keyboard. Otherwise, close everything 
out of the app switcher and try again. If the resources of the phone are being 
used up by a bunch of apps running in the background, this kind of behavior 
will happen. Apple, I know, claims you do not have to close apps from the app 
switcher, but they are wrong. 


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> On Dec 30, 2020, at 7:29 AM, Johnna Simmons  wrote:
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> Just a day or so ago, I started noticing that my iPhone no longer responded 
> to the dictation command.  I use the two finger double tap to start and stop 
> dictation, but that no longer works.  So I tried to input something on the 
> keyboard, and I do not see the letters on my keyboard.  Is there some 
> settings that I need to check after this software update?  Any help would be 
> appreciated.
> Johnna
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RE: Dictation Issue with Latest Ios

[Tom Rash]

I notice lately that there are some apps where the two finger double tap no 
longer works, but there is the dictation button on the keyboard that does work. 
 I can’t be specific on which apps it is having difficulty.  I’ll pay attention 
and see if it is specific to certain apps, in my case. 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, December 6, 2019 7:12 AM
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Using iOS 13.3 public beta for this is working just fine.

I use the two finger double tap to begin this dictation, and I used to to 
finger double tap to stop the dictation, and voiceover is speaking just fine.

 

 

 

 

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On Dec 6, 2019, at 6:53 AM, Terri Hedgpeth  wrote:

Yes, had the same issue starting with 13.0.1. 
Solution: one finger double tap right on the "Diction" button to start diction 
and repeat to stop.
Best,
Terri Hedgpeth

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Dear List, the two finger double tap to start dictation is not working on my 
iPhone 7 running latest iOS.  It just kills speech in the app I am trying to 
dictate into.  Does anyone else have this issue?

Many Thanks, Lee

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RE: Dictation Issue with Latest Ios

[Fazil]

Gestures are working just fine for me too but dictation is not copying lately 
what I dictate, I thought  this could be because of my heavy Pakistani accent 
but I have been dictating for the last four years with no problem. Has the 
system realized just now that it is has problem with my Pakistani accent?

Thanks!

 

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Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2019 7:12 AM
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Using iOS 13.3 public beta for this is working just fine.

I use the two finger double tap to begin this dictation, and I used to to 
finger double tap to stop the dictation, and voiceover is speaking just fine.

 

 

 

 

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On Dec 6, 2019, at 6:53 AM, Terri Hedgpeth mailto:terri...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Yes, had the same issue starting with 13.0.1. 
Solution: one finger double tap right on the "Diction" button to start diction 
and repeat to stop.
Best,
Terri Hedgpeth

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Dear List, the two finger double tap to start dictation is not working on my 
iPhone 7 running latest iOS.  It just kills speech in the app I am trying to 
dictate into.  Does anyone else have this issue?

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RE: Dictation Issue with Latest Ios

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Has always worked fine on my iPhone 8.


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Using iOS 13.3 public beta for this is working just fine.
I use the two finger double tap to begin this dictation, and I used to to 
finger double tap to stop the dictation, and voiceover is speaking just fine.




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On Dec 6, 2019, at 6:53 AM, Terri Hedgpeth  wrote:
Yes, had the same issue starting with 13.0.1.
Solution: one finger double tap right on the "Diction" button to start diction 
and repeat to stop.
Best,
Terri Hedgpeth

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Dear List, the two finger double tap to start dictation is not working on my 
iPhone 7 running latest iOS.  It just kills speech in the app I am trying to 
dictate into.  Does anyone else have this issue?

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RE: Dictation Issue with Latest Ios

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If it kills speech then his phone is registering his 2-finger double tap as a 
3-finger double tap which turns speech off.
That is either because he touches the screen somewhere when he does the 
2-finger double tap and that is considered a third point of contact or it could 
also be that the screen is really dirty and needs a good cleaning, a dirty 
screen can cause all sorts of very strange, unexplained behaviour.
Take a damp cloth and wipe it down, just don’t use one which is dripping wet 
or, if you do, hold your phone screen side down when  you wipe it so the water 
doesn’t exactly run into the earpiece opening. The iPhone 7 was already quite 
waterproof so you really don’t have to be too worried. I would not use any soap 
or detergent, just a damp cloth, then dry it with a paper towel or tissue paper.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
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Sent: Friday, December 6, 2019 5:59 AM
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Not had that issue.
Does VO say speech off, before going quiet?
I am thinking you might accidentally be touching with three fingers.
If not, is this one specific app, or all apps?



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Dear List, the two finger double tap to start dictation is not working on my 
iPhone 7 running latest iOS.  It just kills speech in the app I am trying to 
dictate into.  Does anyone else have this issue?

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[Richard Turner]

Using iOS 13.3 public beta for this is working just fine.
I use the two finger double tap to begin this dictation, and I used to to 
finger double tap to stop the dictation, and voiceover is speaking just fine.




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On Dec 6, 2019, at 6:53 AM, Terri Hedgpeth  wrote:

Yes, had the same issue starting with 13.0.1.
Solution: one finger double tap right on the "Diction" button to start diction 
and repeat to stop.
Best,
Terri Hedgpeth

-Original Message-
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Subject: Dictation Issue with Latest Ios

Dear List, the two finger double tap to start dictation is not working on my 
iPhone 7 running latest iOS.  It just kills speech in the app I am trying to 
dictate into.  Does anyone else have this issue?

Many Thanks, Lee

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RE: Dictation Issue with Latest Ios

[Terri Hedgpeth]

Yes, had the same issue starting with 13.0.1. 
Solution: one finger double tap right on the "Diction" button to start diction 
and repeat to stop.
Best,
Terri Hedgpeth

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lee Jones
Sent: Friday, December 6, 2019 6:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Dictation Issue with Latest Ios

Dear List, the two finger double tap to start dictation is not working on my 
iPhone 7 running latest iOS.  It just kills speech in the app I am trying to 
dictate into.  Does anyone else have this issue?

Many Thanks, Lee

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Re: Dictation Issue with Latest Ios

[Richard Turner]

Not had that issue.
Does VO say speech off, before going quiet?
I am thinking you might accidentally be touching with three fingers.
If not, is this one specific app, or all apps?




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On Dec 6, 2019, at 5:36 AM, Lee Jones  wrote:


Dear List, the two finger double tap to start dictation is not working on my 
iPhone 7 running latest iOS.  It just kills speech in the app I am trying to 
dictate into.  Does anyone else have this issue?

Many Thanks, Lee

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RE: Dictation on an Apple Watch.

[M. Taylor]

Hello Chuck,

When I dictate in iMessage on my Apple Watch, I simply single-finger, 
double-tap the display screen to end the dictation.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chuck Dean
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 8:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Dictation on an Apple Watch.

Hello everyone,
How do I stop dictation on my Apple Watch?
For example, I dictate a text message, once I am finished talking, how do I 
stop dictation, I have tried various one and two finger taps and nothing really 
seems to work consistently.
Thanks for any suggestions, 
Chuck  (mobile)
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Re: Dictation only works on my iPhone 6 when earphones are connected. Why?

[Feliciano Godoy]

Hi, that is definitely abnormal behavior. I suggest you go to your device 
settings followed by General and then keyboard and turn off dictation and turn 
it back on. After you have done this, try to use dictation without the 
headphones. Now if that doesn't work, I would suggest to  power off your device 
and turned it back on.

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guys,

I'm finding that dictation only works on my iPhone 6 with iOS 9 or 10 when my 
earphones are connected.  Since my phones have a bad wire that causes only one 
ear to work, I assumed that the failure of dictation was global.  but, weirdly 
enough, when my phones are connected, I get a great dictation response.  I 
would prefer not to have to wear earphones, working or not, to use the 
dictation feature. Any ideas?  Dictation works fine on my iPad Air 2 without 
phones.

Since i never visit this forum, I'd be grateful if responders would copy me at 
this address:
kevj...@me.com, in addition to replying to the group.

thanks for understanding,
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Re: Dictation Not Working

[Richard Turner]

I'm glad it is working again.
Sometimes a google search turns up just what is needed.
I plan to keep that site handy for future reminders when that happens to me.
Richard


Sent from my iPod 6

> On Mar 20, 2016, at 9:27 AM, William Gallik  wrote:
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> Thank you for that website article Richard!
> 
> I believe I had to turn dictation off then turn it back on, then do a hard 
> reset on my iPhone. At any rate, I am dictating this message.
> 
> What A relief!!!
> 
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re: Dictation Not Working

[Vicky Collins]

When this happens to me, turning the phone off and then back on 
again usually solves the problem.


- Original Message -
From: William Gallik 

Re: Dictation Not Working

[William Gallik]

Thank you for that website article Richard!

I believe I had to turn dictation off then turn it back on, then do a hard 
reset on my iPhone. At any rate, I am dictating this message.

What A relief!!!

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RE: Dictation Not Working

[Richard Turner]

That is very odd.

Check out this article to see if any of their fixes fit your situation.

http://www.igeeksblog.com/how-to-fix-dictation-not-working-on-iphone/


Richard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Bill Gallik
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Subject: Re: Dictation Not Working

I rarely use SIRI at all, but I wanted to determine if both SIRI and Dictation 
were non-functional or if the issue was only with Dictation.  It appears that 
SIRI is working fine while Dictation is not.

I use Dictation to post messages in e-mail and texting.  That is not working at 
all.

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Re: Dictation Not Working

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I rarely use SIRI at all, but I wanted to determine if both SIRI and Dictation 
were non-functional or if the issue was only with Dictation.  It appears that 
SIRI is working fine while Dictation is not.

I use Dictation to post messages in e-mail and texting.  That is not working at 
all.

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Re: Dictation Not Working

[Dionipher Herrera]

what are you trying to do exactly? are you typing? or commanding siri to do 
something?
> Il giorno 19 mar 2016, alle ore 18:30, William Gallik  
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> SIRI is working but Dictation isn't. It just reports, "THINKING."
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> - Bill 
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Re: Dictation was Re: [Bulk] Bluetooth keyboard

[Eva Abbas]

Hi Jenn,

Thank you very much again for the info.  So the dictation is different from 
siri.  It’s on the bottom left hand side.  Okay, why then don’t we use the 
dictation system instead of siri all the time?  What does siri do that the 
dictation system does not do?  I will try the dictation system and see if it 
will work with me.

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From: Jennie Facer 
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 6:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Dictation was Re: [Bulk] Bluetooth keyboard

Hi again, 

I like Siri. She helps me a lot. You won't be a to use her in extensions 
though. That is a part where you will have to use the home screen for. 
Dictation is slightly different from Siri. When you are in any edit field, 
there is a dictate button on the bottom left. Here, you can dictate your 
message or whatever instead of typing it. It comes in handy a lot. 

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

On Nov 27, 2015, at 9:30 AM, Eva Abbas  wrote:


  Hello listers,

  I am a new member on the viphone list and a new user of a smart phone.  
My smart phone is iPhone 5S and I have 9.1 on it.  Honestly, my most concern 
now is finding a good bluetooth keyboard to pair with it.  Please advise me of 
what my best choice is.  I also have a braille note apex.  I paired it with my 
iPhone and started to use it; but I am not doing well with whatsapp.  If 
anybody has experience with whatsapp, the braille note and bluetooth keyboards, 
please advise me what to do.  Whatsapp is the most important part of my iPhone. 
 

  I would like also to know how helpful siri is.  So far, I did not find 
her too helpful.  If I ask her to dial a number for me, it will; but then when 
there are options and extentions, it does not help anymore.  Is there a 
solution to that?  I hear people say dictating the iPhone is different from 
instructing siri.  Is that true?  What is the difference?  I am very new and 
full of questions.  I have not tried it; but someone confirmed to me when I 
asked her if we can dictate letter by letter.  I like to do that because in 
that way, we avoid writing wrong words and messages.

  Sorry if I asked too much.  Thanks to anyone who will help me and answer 
my questions.

  God bless
  Eva
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  The way you live it is your gift to God

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Re: Dictation bug fixed?

[Kellie]

I also sometimes get this bug. It isn't constant that it completely crashes 
voiceover. Sometimes, it will just be sluggish and then it will come back. 
Other times, I have to triple tap the home key to turn voiceover off and then 
triple tap it again to turn it back on in order for me to regain speech. I'm 
using a 5S.

Kellie and my lovable Lady J  
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 24, 2015, at 2:00 PM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> 
> Yes, happens with my 4S and 6S also.
> 
> There are some things, such as this and I'm thinking too of the keyboard 
> problems, where Voice-Over just is freaking out or not performing well. I do 
> hope they get a handle on these things very soon. (Maybe Voice-Over needs an 
> upgrade itself )
> 
> Carol P
> 
>> On 24/10/2015 18:19, Mary Otten wrote:
>> Hi sieghard,
>> This I don't think is the dictation bug we're talking about now. It's the 
>> one where you hit send and then you wait for a while for voiceover to come 
>> back. And it takes longer to come back depending on the length of the thread 
>> to which you are replying. I have a brand-new iPhone 6s, as the other one I 
>> had died. And I'm sorry to say that this issue is present on this iPhone, as 
>> it was on the previous one, and my 5S, and the 4S, and The iPad mini two. It 
>> is amazing to me that all these devices should have this problem. I wonder 
>> why you don't have it. It certainly doesn't happen if voice over his 
>> disabled. This iPhone was set up as a new device, unlike my other one where 
>> I used a back up from iTunes.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 23, 2015, at 8:57 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Guys,
>>> 
>>> I just tried it, I replied to an email a customer sent to me earlier this 
>>> week, I typed out a message and when I tapped Send I heard the swoosh sound 
>>> and instantly I was back in my Inbox, Voiceover was talking and responsive, 
>>> there was no sluggishness or Voiceover disappearing at all. I have no idea 
>>> why this is happening to some of you, definitely not anything I can 
>>> reproduce here.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Shawn Krasniuk
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 9:04 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Dictation bug fixed?
>>> 
>>> Hi Sieghard. Sending a new message is fine. It's when you reply to an email 
>>> that Voiceover crashes. Just thought I'd clear that up for you.
>>> 
>>> Shawn
>>> Sent From My White MacBook
>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 22, 2015, at 9:39 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi again,
>>>> 
>>>> I just tried this on my old 5S and my 6S, both are now on iOS 9.1. I sent 
>>>> an email to myself, I dictated it and tried it both with screen curtain 
>>>> off which is usually what I have but I also tried it with screen curtain 
>>>> on. In all four scenarios as soon as I double tap on the Send button I 
>>>> hear the swoosh noise and I am back in my Inbox immediately with Voiceover 
>>>> talking and I really mean immediately, there isn't even a second or two 
>>>> delay.
>>>> 
>>>> As I said, I would definitely close all apps, then go to Settings > 
>>>> General > Reset and double tap Reset Network Settings. This will prompt 
>>>> you to confirm and then after a couple of seconds your device will reboot. 
>>>> Once you are back on the home screen you have to go to Settings > WiFi and 
>>>> reconnect to your WiFi network (you will need your password). Then give it 
>>>> a try and see if it makes a difference.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Sieghard
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>>> Of Rajmund
>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:41 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Dictation bug fixed?
>>>> 
>>>> Hello,
>>>> I confirm the focus, and t

Re: Dictation bug fixed?

[Mary Otten]

Hi sieghard,
This I don't think is the dictation bug we're talking about now. It's the one 
where you hit send and then you wait for a while for voiceover to come back. 
And it takes longer to come back depending on the length of the thread to which 
you are replying. I have a brand-new iPhone 6s, as the other one I had died. 
And I'm sorry to say that this issue is present on this iPhone, as it was on 
the previous one, and my 5S, and the 4S, and The iPad mini two. It is amazing 
to me that all these devices should have this problem. I wonder why you don't 
have it. It certainly doesn't happen if voice over his disabled. This iPhone 
was set up as a new device, unlike my other one where I used a back up from 
iTunes.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 23, 2015, at 8:57 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> Hi Guys,
> 
> I just tried it, I replied to an email a customer sent to me earlier this 
> week, I typed out a message and when I tapped Send I heard the swoosh sound 
> and instantly I was back in my Inbox, Voiceover was talking and responsive, 
> there was no sluggishness or Voiceover disappearing at all. I have no idea 
> why this is happening to some of you, definitely not anything I can reproduce 
> here.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Shawn Krasniuk
> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 9:04 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Dictation bug fixed?
> 
> Hi Sieghard. Sending a new message is fine. It's when you reply to an email 
> that Voiceover crashes. Just thought I'd clear that up for you.
> 
> Shawn
> Sent From My White MacBook
> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
> 
>> On Oct 22, 2015, at 9:39 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi again,
>> 
>> I just tried this on my old 5S and my 6S, both are now on iOS 9.1. I sent an 
>> email to myself, I dictated it and tried it both with screen curtain off 
>> which is usually what I have but I also tried it with screen curtain on. In 
>> all four scenarios as soon as I double tap on the Send button I hear the 
>> swoosh noise and I am back in my Inbox immediately with Voiceover talking 
>> and I really mean immediately, there isn't even a second or two delay.
>> 
>> As I said, I would definitely close all apps, then go to Settings > General 
>> > Reset and double tap Reset Network Settings. This will prompt you to 
>> confirm and then after a couple of seconds your device will reboot. Once you 
>> are back on the home screen you have to go to Settings > WiFi and reconnect 
>> to your WiFi network (you will need your password). Then give it a try and 
>> see if it makes a difference.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Rajmund
>> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:41 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Dictation bug fixed?
>> 
>> Hello,
>> I confirm the focus, and that's truly wonderful. But, are you dictating, or 
>> writing your emails?  Do you have screen curtain on or off? 
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Sieghard Weitzel  <siegh...@live.ca>
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 6:11 pm
>> Subject: RE: Dictation bug fixed?
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> For whatever it's worth, I don't have this problem on my 5S nor on my 6S. 
>>> If I send an email I hear the sound it makes that the email is sent and I 
>>> can immediately continue to do other things or go into another email that I 
>>> want to reply to.
>>> 
>>> Also, the focus bug has been fixed, if you are now in say message 15 of 
>>> your Inbox and you go into the message and back out focus will remail on 
>>> that message rather than jumping back up to the top.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Rajmund
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 3:40 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Dictation bug fixed?
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> LOL, similar feelings. How many are in a thread, since I have it disabled 
>>> in the first place But restarting VO, or wait minutes and mi

Re: Dictation bug fixed?

['Carol Pearson' via VIPhone]

Yes, happens with my 4S and 6S also.

There are some things, such as this and I'm thinking too of the keyboard 
problems, where Voice-Over just is freaking out or not performing well. 
I do hope they get a handle on these things very soon. (Maybe Voice-Over 
needs an upgrade itself )


Carol P

On 24/10/2015 18:19, Mary Otten wrote:

Hi sieghard,
This I don't think is the dictation bug we're talking about now. It's the one 
where you hit send and then you wait for a while for voiceover to come back. 
And it takes longer to come back depending on the length of the thread to which 
you are replying. I have a brand-new iPhone 6s, as the other one I had died. 
And I'm sorry to say that this issue is present on this iPhone, as it was on 
the previous one, and my 5S, and the 4S, and The iPad mini two. It is amazing 
to me that all these devices should have this problem. I wonder why you don't 
have it. It certainly doesn't happen if voice over his disabled. This iPhone 
was set up as a new device, unlike my other one where I used a back up from 
iTunes.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 23, 2015, at 8:57 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:

Hi Guys,

I just tried it, I replied to an email a customer sent to me earlier this week, 
I typed out a message and when I tapped Send I heard the swoosh sound and 
instantly I was back in my Inbox, Voiceover was talking and responsive, there 
was no sluggishness or Voiceover disappearing at all. I have no idea why this 
is happening to some of you, definitely not anything I can reproduce here.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Shawn Krasniuk
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 9:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dictation bug fixed?

Hi Sieghard. Sending a new message is fine. It's when you reply to an email 
that Voiceover crashes. Just thought I'd clear that up for you.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook
Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com


On Oct 22, 2015, at 9:39 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:

Hi again,

I just tried this on my old 5S and my 6S, both are now on iOS 9.1. I sent an 
email to myself, I dictated it and tried it both with screen curtain off which 
is usually what I have but I also tried it with screen curtain on. In all four 
scenarios as soon as I double tap on the Send button I hear the swoosh noise 
and I am back in my Inbox immediately with Voiceover talking and I really mean 
immediately, there isn't even a second or two delay.

As I said, I would definitely close all apps, then go to Settings > General > 
Reset and double tap Reset Network Settings. This will prompt you to confirm and then 
after a couple of seconds your device will reboot. Once you are back on the home screen 
you have to go to Settings > WiFi and reconnect to your WiFi network (you will need 
your password). Then give it a try and see if it makes a difference.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rajmund
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dictation bug fixed?

Hello,
I confirm the focus, and that's truly wonderful. But, are you dictating, or 
writing your emails?  Do you have screen curtain on or off?

- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel  <siegh...@live.ca>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 6:11 pm
Subject: RE: Dictation bug fixed?



For whatever it's worth, I don't have this problem on my 5S nor on my 6S. If I 
send an email I hear the sound it makes that the email is sent and I can 
immediately continue to do other things or go into another email that I want to 
reply to.

Also, the focus bug has been fixed, if you are now in say message 15 of your 
Inbox and you go into the message and back out focus will remail on that 
message rather than jumping back up to the top.


Regards,
Sieghard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rajmund
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 3:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dictation bug fixed?

Hello,
LOL, similar feelings. How many are in a thread, since I have it disabled in 
the first place But restarting VO, or wait minutes and minutes between 
sending messages, Hmm. Fortunately for some, they have note takers so I'm back 
to that, when there are a lot, even though VO could read much quicker than this 
thing, but sending is currently quicker on here.

- Original Message -
From: Mary Otten  <motte...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 5:23 am
Subject: Re: Dictation bug fixed?



Having crap inserted into your messages, having your machine freeze up every 
time this bug appears, an

Re: Dictation bug fixed?

[Rajmund]

Hello,
I haven't noticed that, but I have noticed VO sometimes does a read all for no 
apparent reason, certainly  when I didn't ask it to. E.g. You're responding to 
an email. You stop, an IMessage comes in. That iMessage will send it off for a 
read all. Anyone noticed? And nope, I can't recall this in 9.02. 

- Original Message -
From: Tom Lange  <lang...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, October 23, 2015 2:17 pm
Subject: Re: Dictation bug fixed?

>
>
> Hi. I'm replying for two reasons. First, I want to see if VoiceOver crashes.. 
> Second, on a somewhat related note, I'd like to know  whether anyone has 
> noticed that when you reply to a message, the VO focus is placed in the to 
> field rather than the message body. When that happens, I have to move focus 
> to the Back button or some other location, then flick back down to the 
> message body. Oh yeah, I should point out that more often than not I'm using 
> my iPhone 6 with my BrailleNote Apex BT32.  Okay,  here goes... 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Oct 22, 2015, at 9:04 PM, Shawn Krasniuk <bbssh...@icloud.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Sieghard. Sending a new message is fine. It's when you reply to an email 
> > that Voiceover crashes. Just thought I'd clear that up for you.
> > 
> > Shawn
> > Sent From My White MacBook
> > Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
> > Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
> > Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
> > Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
> > 
> >> On Oct 22, 2015, at 9:39 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> >> 
> >> Hi again,
> >> 
> >> I just tried this on my old 5S and my 6S, both are now on iOS 9.1. I sent 
> >> an email to myself, I dictated it and tried it both with screen curtain 
> >> off which is usually what I have but I also tried it with screen curtain 
> >> on. In all four scenarios as soon as I double tap on the Send button I 
> >> hear the swoosh noise and I am back in my Inbox immediately with Voiceover 
> >> talking and I really mean immediately, there isn't even a second or two 
> >> delay.
> >> 
> >> As I said, I would definitely close all apps, then go to Settings > 
> >> General > Reset and double tap Reset Network Settings. This will prompt 
> >> you to confirm and then after a couple of seconds your device will reboot. 
> >> Once you are back on the home screen you have to go to Settings > WiFi and 
> >> reconnect to your WiFi network (you will need your password). Then give it 
> >> a try and see if it makes a difference.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Regards,
> >> Sieghard
> >> 
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> >> Of Rajmund
> >> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:41 AM
> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >> Subject: Re: Dictation bug fixed?
> >> 
> >> Hello,
> >> I confirm the focus, and that's truly wonderful. But, are you dictating, 
> >> or writing your emails?  Do you have screen curtain on or off? 
> >> 
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: Sieghard Weitzel  <siegh...@live.ca>
> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >> Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 6:11 pm
> >> Subject: RE: Dictation bug fixed?
> >> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> For whatever it's worth, I don't have this problem on my 5S nor on my 6S. 
> >>> If I send an email I hear the sound it makes that the email is sent and I 
> >>> can immediately continue to do other things or go into another email that 
> >>> I want to reply to.
> >>> 
> >>> Also, the focus bug has been fixed, if you are now in say message 15 of 
> >>> your Inbox and you go into the message and back out focus will remail on 
> >>> that message rather than jumping back up to the top.
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Sieghard
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> >>> Behalf Of Rajmund
> >>> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 3:40 AM
> >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >>> Subject: Re: Dictation bug fixed?
> >>> 
> >>> Hello,
> >>> LOL, similar feelings. How many are in a thread, since I have it disabled 
> >>> in the first place But restarting VO, or wait minutes and minutes 

RE: Dictation bug fixed?

[Rick Alfaro]

Hi, I disagree in that it only makes perfect sense for a specific situation. If 
you are using a headset, then yes it makes sense but if not, it's not good at 
all IMHO. You have to first turhn speech off before dictating. If you don't, 
you basically get double insertion of what you dictated.

Having said that, I reported that it was fixed for me but last night, again in 
a mail composition edit field, the issue was back again. I have no idea as to 
why this seems to be intermittent but I'm no longer labeling it as fixed.



Best regards,

Rick Alfaro

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Daniel Miller
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 5:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dictation bug fixed?

Hi guys,

If you really take the time to calm down and think about it, it seems like they 
intentionally did that by design. Let me explain why I think so before you all 
go on a rant about how it’s not fixed and apple doesn’t care about 
accessibility, blah blah blah.
It makes perfect sense for this to be by design, because sometimes dictation 
will not always respond back with what you actually said, especially in noisy 
environments, so having VoiceOver read you what dictation is hearing can be a 
lifesaver, that way you know 100% that what you’re saying is what’s going to be 
inserted into the text field.
I kind of like that, and hope they don’t revert back to how it was before.

> On Oct 21, 2015, at 4:34 PM, Rick Alfaro <rick.alf...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Very interesting as some seem to have it fixd and others not. I just tested 
> quickly in the mail composition window and I was very happy to see that it 
> seems fixed at least for me. Hopefully, it will stay that way.
> 
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Rick Alfaro
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Marissa Solaun
> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 5:15 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Dictation bug fixed?
> 
> Turn off the speech of VO then turn it back on after dictation. It seems 
> fixed at least on my device 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Oct 21, 2015, at 2:13 PM, Lisa Soulor <hisgrace...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> No, unfortunately it isn't. I tried it as soon as I downloaded and
> installed 9.1 because that is the biggest problem I have had.
> Lisa
> 
>> On 10/21/15, Marissa Solaun <solaunmarissa2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I want to find out with iOS 9.1 if anybody has found out if the dictation
>> bug with voiceover is fixed. The bug but I'm referring to is what saved in
>> incoming text message and you reply directly from the notification itself
>> and you were using voiceover when you dictate originally voice from her
>> would say the contents of what you have dictated and dictate would insert
>> that into your message
>> 
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Re: Dictation bug fixed?

[Tom Lange]

Hi. I'm replying for two reasons. First, I want to see if VoiceOver crashes. 
Second, on a somewhat related note, I'd like to know  whether anyone has 
noticed that when you reply to a message, the VO focus is placed in the to 
field rather than the message body. When that happens, I have to move focus to 
the Back button or some other location, then flick back down to the message 
body. Oh yeah, I should point out that more often than not I'm using my iPhone 
6 with my BrailleNote Apex BT32.  Okay,  here goes... 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 22, 2015, at 9:04 PM, Shawn Krasniuk <bbssh...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Sieghard. Sending a new message is fine. It's when you reply to an email 
> that Voiceover crashes. Just thought I'd clear that up for you.
> 
> Shawn
> Sent From My White MacBook
> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
> 
>> On Oct 22, 2015, at 9:39 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi again,
>> 
>> I just tried this on my old 5S and my 6S, both are now on iOS 9.1. I sent an 
>> email to myself, I dictated it and tried it both with screen curtain off 
>> which is usually what I have but I also tried it with screen curtain on. In 
>> all four scenarios as soon as I double tap on the Send button I hear the 
>> swoosh noise and I am back in my Inbox immediately with Voiceover talking 
>> and I really mean immediately, there isn't even a second or two delay.
>> 
>> As I said, I would definitely close all apps, then go to Settings > General 
>> > Reset and double tap Reset Network Settings. This will prompt you to 
>> confirm and then after a couple of seconds your device will reboot. Once you 
>> are back on the home screen you have to go to Settings > WiFi and reconnect 
>> to your WiFi network (you will need your password). Then give it a try and 
>> see if it makes a difference.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Rajmund
>> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:41 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Dictation bug fixed?
>> 
>> Hello,
>> I confirm the focus, and that's truly wonderful. But, are you dictating, or 
>> writing your emails?  Do you have screen curtain on or off? 
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Sieghard Weitzel  <siegh...@live.ca>
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 6:11 pm
>> Subject: RE: Dictation bug fixed?
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> For whatever it's worth, I don't have this problem on my 5S nor on my 6S. 
>>> If I send an email I hear the sound it makes that the email is sent and I 
>>> can immediately continue to do other things or go into another email that I 
>>> want to reply to.
>>> 
>>> Also, the focus bug has been fixed, if you are now in say message 15 of 
>>> your Inbox and you go into the message and back out focus will remail on 
>>> that message rather than jumping back up to the top.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Rajmund
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 3:40 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Dictation bug fixed?
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> LOL, similar feelings. How many are in a thread, since I have it disabled 
>>> in the first place But restarting VO, or wait minutes and minutes 
>>> between sending messages, Hmm. Fortunately for some, they have note takers 
>>> so I'm back to that, when there are a lot, even though VO could read much 
>>> quicker than this thing, but sending is currently quicker on here.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Mary Otten  <motte...@gmail.com>
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 5:23 am
>>> Subject: Re: Dictation bug fixed?
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Having crap inserted into your messages, having your machine freeze up 
>>>> every time this bug appears, and finding it distracting are none of them 
>>>> trivial. If it doesn't bother you, that is wonderful. As for me, I really 
>>>> don't give a damn about whether the number of messages in the thread is 
>>>>

Re: Dictation bug fixed?

['Carol Pearson' via VIPhone]

yes, I have noticed that one. It's probably because things work the same when 
you're writing a new message.



Carol P
Sent from my iPhone using MBraille

On 23 Oct 2015, at 14:17, Tom Lange <lang...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi. I'm replying for two reasons. First, I want to see if VoiceOver crashes. 
Second, on a somewhat related note, I'd like to know  whether anyone has 
noticed that when you reply to a message, the VO focus is placed in the to 
field rather than the message body. When that happens, I have to move focus to 
the Back button or some other location, then flick back down to the message 
body. Oh yeah, I should point out that more often than not I'm using my iPhone 
6 with my BrailleNote Apex BT32.  Okay,  here goes... 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 22, 2015, at 9:04 PM, Shawn Krasniuk <bbssh...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Sieghard. Sending a new message is fine. It's when you reply to an email 
> that Voiceover crashes. Just thought I'd clear that up for you.
> 
> Shawn
> Sent From My White MacBook
> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
> 
>> On Oct 22, 2015, at 9:39 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi again,
>> 
>> I just tried this on my old 5S and my 6S, both are now on iOS 9.1. I sent an 
>> email to myself, I dictated it and tried it both with screen curtain off 
>> which is usually what I have but I also tried it with screen curtain on. In 
>> all four scenarios as soon as I double tap on the Send button I hear the 
>> swoosh noise and I am back in my Inbox immediately with Voiceover talking 
>> and I really mean immediately, there isn't even a second or two delay.
>> 
>> As I said, I would definitely close all apps, then go to Settings > General 
>> > Reset and double tap Reset Network Settings. This will prompt you to 
>> confirm and then after a couple of seconds your device will reboot. Once you 
>> are back on the home screen you have to go to Settings > WiFi and reconnect 
>> to your WiFi network (you will need your password). Then give it a try and 
>> see if it makes a difference.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Rajmund
>> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:41 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Dictation bug fixed?
>> 
>> Hello,
>> I confirm the focus, and that's truly wonderful. But, are you dictating, or 
>> writing your emails?  Do you have screen curtain on or off? 
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Sieghard Weitzel  <siegh...@live.ca>
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 6:11 pm
>> Subject: RE: Dictation bug fixed?
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> For whatever it's worth, I don't have this problem on my 5S nor on my 6S. 
>>> If I send an email I hear the sound it makes that the email is sent and I 
>>> can immediately continue to do other things or go into another email that I 
>>> want to reply to.
>>> 
>>> Also, the focus bug has been fixed, if you are now in say message 15 of 
>>> your Inbox and you go into the message and back out focus will remail on 
>>> that message rather than jumping back up to the top.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Rajmund
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 3:40 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Dictation bug fixed?
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> LOL, similar feelings. How many are in a thread, since I have it disabled 
>>> in the first place But restarting VO, or wait minutes and minutes 
>>> between sending messages, Hmm. Fortunately for some, they have note takers 
>>> so I'm back to that, when there are a lot, even though VO could read much 
>>> quicker than this thing, but sending is currently quicker on here.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Mary Otten  <motte...@gmail.com>
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 5:23 am
>>> Subject: Re: Dictation bug fixed?
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Having crap inserted into your messages, having your machine freeze up 
>>>> every time this bug appears, and finding it distractin

Re: Dictation bug fixed?

[Tom Lange]

Oh, now that's weird. VO crashed when I did my last post, but when I started 
this post, VO focus was placed in the message body as it should be.  It's so 
nice to see vO behaving consistently.  

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 23, 2015, at 6:17 AM, Tom Lange <lang...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi. I'm replying for two reasons. First, I want to see if VoiceOver crashes. 
> Second, on a somewhat related note, I'd like to know  whether anyone has 
> noticed that when you reply to a message, the VO focus is placed in the to 
> field rather than the message body. When that happens, I have to move focus 
> to the Back button or some other location, then flick back down to the 
> message body. Oh yeah, I should point out that more often than not I'm using 
> my iPhone 6 with my BrailleNote Apex BT32.  Okay,  here goes... 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 22, 2015, at 9:04 PM, Shawn Krasniuk <bbssh...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Sieghard. Sending a new message is fine. It's when you reply to an email 
>> that Voiceover crashes. Just thought I'd clear that up for you.
>> 
>> Shawn
>> Sent From My White MacBook
>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
>> 
>>> On Oct 22, 2015, at 9:39 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi again,
>>> 
>>> I just tried this on my old 5S and my 6S, both are now on iOS 9.1. I sent 
>>> an email to myself, I dictated it and tried it both with screen curtain off 
>>> which is usually what I have but I also tried it with screen curtain on. In 
>>> all four scenarios as soon as I double tap on the Send button I hear the 
>>> swoosh noise and I am back in my Inbox immediately with Voiceover talking 
>>> and I really mean immediately, there isn't even a second or two delay.
>>> 
>>> As I said, I would definitely close all apps, then go to Settings > General 
>>> > Reset and double tap Reset Network Settings. This will prompt you to 
>>> confirm and then after a couple of seconds your device will reboot. Once 
>>> you are back on the home screen you have to go to Settings > WiFi and 
>>> reconnect to your WiFi network (you will need your password). Then give it 
>>> a try and see if it makes a difference.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Rajmund
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:41 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Dictation bug fixed?
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> I confirm the focus, and that's truly wonderful. But, are you dictating, or 
>>> writing your emails?  Do you have screen curtain on or off? 
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Sieghard Weitzel  <siegh...@live.ca>
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 6:11 pm
>>> Subject: RE: Dictation bug fixed?
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> For whatever it's worth, I don't have this problem on my 5S nor on my 6S. 
>>>> If I send an email I hear the sound it makes that the email is sent and I 
>>>> can immediately continue to do other things or go into another email that 
>>>> I want to reply to.
>>>> 
>>>> Also, the focus bug has been fixed, if you are now in say message 15 of 
>>>> your Inbox and you go into the message and back out focus will remail on 
>>>> that message rather than jumping back up to the top.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Sieghard
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>>> Of Rajmund
>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 3:40 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Dictation bug fixed?
>>>> 
>>>> Hello,
>>>> LOL, similar feelings. How many are in a thread, since I have it disabled 
>>>> in the first place But restarting VO, or wait minutes and minutes 
>>>> between sending messages, Hmm. Fortunately for some, they have note takers 
>>>> so I'm back to that, when there are a lot, even though VO could read much 
>>>> quicker than this thing, but sending is currently quicker on here.
>>>> 
>

RE: Dictation bug fixed?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Guys,

I just tried it, I replied to an email a customer sent to me earlier this week, 
I typed out a message and when I tapped Send I heard the swoosh sound and 
instantly I was back in my Inbox, Voiceover was talking and responsive, there 
was no sluggishness or Voiceover disappearing at all. I have no idea why this 
is happening to some of you, definitely not anything I can reproduce here.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Shawn Krasniuk
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 9:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dictation bug fixed?

Hi Sieghard. Sending a new message is fine. It's when you reply to an email 
that Voiceover crashes. Just thought I'd clear that up for you.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook
Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com

> On Oct 22, 2015, at 9:39 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> Hi again,
> 
> I just tried this on my old 5S and my 6S, both are now on iOS 9.1. I sent an 
> email to myself, I dictated it and tried it both with screen curtain off 
> which is usually what I have but I also tried it with screen curtain on. In 
> all four scenarios as soon as I double tap on the Send button I hear the 
> swoosh noise and I am back in my Inbox immediately with Voiceover talking and 
> I really mean immediately, there isn't even a second or two delay.
> 
> As I said, I would definitely close all apps, then go to Settings > General > 
> Reset and double tap Reset Network Settings. This will prompt you to confirm 
> and then after a couple of seconds your device will reboot. Once you are back 
> on the home screen you have to go to Settings > WiFi and reconnect to your 
> WiFi network (you will need your password). Then give it a try and see if it 
> makes a difference.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Rajmund
> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Dictation bug fixed?
> 
> Hello,
> I confirm the focus, and that's truly wonderful. But, are you dictating, or 
> writing your emails?  Do you have screen curtain on or off? 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Sieghard Weitzel  <siegh...@live.ca>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 6:11 pm
> Subject: RE: Dictation bug fixed?
> 
>> 
>> 
>> For whatever it's worth, I don't have this problem on my 5S nor on my 6S. If 
>> I send an email I hear the sound it makes that the email is sent and I can 
>> immediately continue to do other things or go into another email that I want 
>> to reply to.
>> 
>> Also, the focus bug has been fixed, if you are now in say message 15 of your 
>> Inbox and you go into the message and back out focus will remail on that 
>> message rather than jumping back up to the top.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Rajmund
>> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 3:40 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Dictation bug fixed?
>> 
>> Hello,
>> LOL, similar feelings. How many are in a thread, since I have it disabled in 
>> the first place But restarting VO, or wait minutes and minutes between 
>> sending messages, Hmm. Fortunately for some, they have note takers so I'm 
>> back to that, when there are a lot, even though VO could read much quicker 
>> than this thing, but sending is currently quicker on here.
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Mary Otten  <motte...@gmail.com>
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 5:23 am
>> Subject: Re: Dictation bug fixed?
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Having crap inserted into your messages, having your machine freeze up 
>>> every time this bug appears, and finding it distracting are none of them 
>>> trivial. If it doesn't bother you, that is wonderful. As for me, I really 
>>> don't give a damn about whether the number of messages in the thread is 
>>> announced. I understand others do, and that's great. For those people, I'm 
>>> glad this bug was fixed. But please don't call other bugs trivial, just 
>>> because they don't mean much to you. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 8:26 PM, Shawn Krasniuk <bbssh...@icloud.com> wrote:
>&

Re: Dictation bug fixed?

[Alex Hall]

This is what makes it so hard to determine if a given bug is fixed or not. For 
what it's worth, I experience this bug when the message is part of a thread, 
rarely--if ever--if it's not. This is on an iPhone 5 sending over wifi.
> On Oct 23, 2015, at 23:57, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> Hi Guys,
> 
> I just tried it, I replied to an email a customer sent to me earlier this 
> week, I typed out a message and when I tapped Send I heard the swoosh sound 
> and instantly I was back in my Inbox, Voiceover was talking and responsive, 
> there was no sluggishness or Voiceover disappearing at all. I have no idea 
> why this is happening to some of you, definitely not anything I can reproduce 
> here.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Shawn Krasniuk
> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 9:04 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Dictation bug fixed?
> 
> Hi Sieghard. Sending a new message is fine. It's when you reply to an email 
> that Voiceover crashes. Just thought I'd clear that up for you.
> 
> Shawn
> Sent From My White MacBook
> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
> 
>> On Oct 22, 2015, at 9:39 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi again,
>> 
>> I just tried this on my old 5S and my 6S, both are now on iOS 9.1. I sent an 
>> email to myself, I dictated it and tried it both with screen curtain off 
>> which is usually what I have but I also tried it with screen curtain on. In 
>> all four scenarios as soon as I double tap on the Send button I hear the 
>> swoosh noise and I am back in my Inbox immediately with Voiceover talking 
>> and I really mean immediately, there isn't even a second or two delay.
>> 
>> As I said, I would definitely close all apps, then go to Settings > General 
>> > Reset and double tap Reset Network Settings. This will prompt you to 
>> confirm and then after a couple of seconds your device will reboot. Once you 
>> are back on the home screen you have to go to Settings > WiFi and reconnect 
>> to your WiFi network (you will need your password). Then give it a try and 
>> see if it makes a difference.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Rajmund
>> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:41 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Dictation bug fixed?
>> 
>> Hello,
>> I confirm the focus, and that's truly wonderful. But, are you dictating, or 
>> writing your emails?  Do you have screen curtain on or off? 
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Sieghard Weitzel  <siegh...@live.ca>
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 6:11 pm
>> Subject: RE: Dictation bug fixed?
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> For whatever it's worth, I don't have this problem on my 5S nor on my 6S. 
>>> If I send an email I hear the sound it makes that the email is sent and I 
>>> can immediately continue to do other things or go into another email that I 
>>> want to reply to.
>>> 
>>> Also, the focus bug has been fixed, if you are now in say message 15 of 
>>> your Inbox and you go into the message and back out focus will remail on 
>>> that message rather than jumping back up to the top.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Rajmund
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 3:40 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Dictation bug fixed?
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> LOL, similar feelings. How many are in a thread, since I have it disabled 
>>> in the first place But restarting VO, or wait minutes and minutes 
>>> between sending messages, Hmm. Fortunately for some, they have note takers 
>>> so I'm back to that, when there are a lot, even though VO could read much 
>>> quicker than this thing, but sending is currently quicker on here.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Mary Otten  <motte...@gmail.com>
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 5:23 am
>>> Subject: Re: Dictation bug fixed?
>&

Re: Dictation bug fixed?

[Rajmund]

Hello,

So, you double tap the send button. The screen freezes. Or rather, delays a 
good few minutes. The work  around is to restart voice over, in which case,  
everything returns to normal, instantly. 

- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel  <siegh...@live.ca>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 6:06 pm
Subject: RE: Dictation bug fixed?

>
>
> What email bug is that, can you explain what exactly is happening with your 
> email?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> rajmund
> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 2:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Dictation bug fixed?
> 
> Hello,
> Me, the email bug is making me mad. Perhaps, the most obvious bug of all, and 
> it's still there
> 
> Sent from  an iPad using braille screen input. Please excuse any spelling 
> errors.
> 
> > On 21 Oct 2015, at 10:33 p.m., Marissa Solaun <solaunmarissa2...@gmail.com> 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > If people are beta testing these things I understand things are not 100% 
> > perfect but really do people actually report bugs to Apple? I understand it 
> > released will have its bugs but this is kind of ridiculous then, when you 
> > email Apple they say that they cannot reproduce the issue even if you give 
> > them the steps. Where they say that it's specific to your device and that 
> > you should contact Apple's technical support 
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Re: Dictation bug fixed?

[Rajmund]

Hello,
I confirm the focus, and that's truly wonderful. But, are you dictating, or 
writing your emails?  Do you have screen curtain on or off? 

- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel  <siegh...@live.ca>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 6:11 pm
Subject: RE: Dictation bug fixed?

>
>
> For whatever it's worth, I don't have this problem on my 5S nor on my 6S. If 
> I send an email I hear the sound it makes that the email is sent and I can 
> immediately continue to do other things or go into another email that I want 
> to reply to.
> 
> Also, the focus bug has been fixed, if you are now in say message 15 of your 
> Inbox and you go into the message and back out focus will remail on that 
> message rather than jumping back up to the top.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Rajmund
> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 3:40 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Dictation bug fixed?
> 
> Hello,
> LOL, similar feelings. How many are in a thread, since I have it disabled in 
> the first place But restarting VO, or wait minutes and minutes between 
> sending messages, Hmm. Fortunately for some, they have note takers so I'm 
> back to that, when there are a lot, even though VO could read much quicker 
> than this thing, but sending is currently quicker on here.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Mary Otten  <motte...@gmail.com>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 5:23 am
> Subject: Re: Dictation bug fixed?
> 
> >
> >
> > Having crap inserted into your messages, having your machine freeze up 
> > every time this bug appears, and finding it distracting are none of them 
> > trivial. If it doesn't bother you, that is wonderful. As for me, I really 
> > don't give a damn about whether the number of messages in the thread is 
> > announced. I understand others do, and that's great. For those people, I'm 
> > glad this bug was fixed. But please don't call other bugs trivial, just 
> > because they don't mean much to you. 
> > 
> > Sent from my iPad
> > 
> > > On Oct 21, 2015, at 8:26 PM, Shawn Krasniuk <bbssh...@icloud.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > I second that Daniel. If Apple fixed every trivial bug that someone had 
> > > because it's distracting to them, do you think that the more serious bugs 
> > > like Bluetooth not working or the number of messages in a thread not 
> > > being spoken in Mail would ever be fixed? Probably not until a later 
> > > version. I don't find it distracting at all and even if dictation screwed 
> > > something up, I can always shake my phone to perform the undo action. So 
> > > to the person that asked if we beta testers report bugs, the answer is 
> > > yes we do. But I won't report something unless it's serious enough for me 
> > > to be concerned about. If you really do believe that Apple should fix 
> > > this so-called bug, then join the beta program. Sorry if this may sound 
> > > pissy, but personally, I don't see the big deal. I kinda find it helpful.
> > > 
> > > Shawn
> > > Sent From My White MacBook
> > > Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
> > > Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
> > > Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
> > > Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
> > > 
> > >> On Oct 21, 2015, at 5:41 PM, Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> 
> > >> To each their own, everyone's entitled to their opinion.
> > >> I personally don't find it distracting.
> > >> 
> > >>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 5:39 PM, Marissa Solaun 
> > >>> <solaunmarissa2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>> 
> > >>> Have to agree with Marry and not Daniel 
> > >>> 
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Re: Dictation bug fixed?

[Rajmund]

Hello,
I have considered the beta program, but not sure whether my district would 
appreciate it. If you sign up, can you downgrade, during the beta cycles? 

- Original Message -
From: Shawn Krasniuk  <bbssh...@icloud.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 4:35 am
Subject: Re: Dictation bug fixed?

>
>
> I second that Daniel. If Apple fixed every trivial bug that someone had 
> because it's distracting to them, do you think that the more serious bugs 
> like Bluetooth not working or the number of messages in a thread not being 
> spoken in Mail would ever be fixed? Probably not until a later version. I 
> don't find it distracting at all and even if dictation screwed something up, 
> I can always shake my phone to perform the undo action. So to the person that 
> asked if we beta testers report bugs, the answer is yes we do. But I won't 
> report something unless it's serious enough for me to be concerned about. If 
> you really do believe that Apple should fix this so-called bug, then join the 
> beta program. Sorry if this may sound pissy, but personally, I don't see the 
> big deal. I kinda find it helpful.
> 
> Shawn
> Sent From My White MacBook
> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
> 
> > On Oct 21, 2015, at 5:41 PM, Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > To each their own, everyone's entitled to their opinion.
> > I personally don't find it distracting.
> > 
> >> On Oct 21, 2015, at 5:39 PM, Marissa Solaun <solaunmarissa2...@gmail.com> 
> >> wrote:
> >> 
> >> Have to agree with Marry and not Daniel 
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Re: Dictation bug fixed?

[Rajmund]

Hello,
LOL, similar feelings. How many are in a thread, since I have it disabled in 
the first place But restarting VO, or wait minutes and minutes between 
sending messages, Hmm. Fortunately for some, they have note takers so I'm back 
to that, when there are a lot, even though VO could read much quicker than this 
thing, but sending is currently quicker on here.

- Original Message -
From: Mary Otten  <motte...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 5:23 am
Subject: Re: Dictation bug fixed?

>
>
> Having crap inserted into your messages, having your machine freeze up every 
> time this bug appears, and finding it distracting are none of them trivial. 
> If it doesn't bother you, that is wonderful. As for me, I really don't give a 
> damn about whether the number of messages in the thread is announced. I 
> understand others do, and that's great. For those people, I'm glad this bug 
> was fixed. But please don't call other bugs trivial, just because they don't 
> mean much to you. 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> > On Oct 21, 2015, at 8:26 PM, Shawn Krasniuk <bbssh...@icloud.com> wrote:
> > 
> > I second that Daniel. If Apple fixed every trivial bug that someone had 
> > because it's distracting to them, do you think that the more serious bugs 
> > like Bluetooth not working or the number of messages in a thread not being 
> > spoken in Mail would ever be fixed? Probably not until a later version. I 
> > don't find it distracting at all and even if dictation screwed something 
> > up, I can always shake my phone to perform the undo action. So to the 
> > person that asked if we beta testers report bugs, the answer is yes we do. 
> > But I won't report something unless it's serious enough for me to be 
> > concerned about. If you really do believe that Apple should fix this 
> > so-called bug, then join the beta program. Sorry if this may sound pissy, 
> > but personally, I don't see the big deal. I kinda find it helpful.
> > 
> > Shawn
> > Sent From My White MacBook
> > Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
> > Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
> > Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
> > Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
> > 
> >> On Oct 21, 2015, at 5:41 PM, Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >> To each their own, everyone's entitled to their opinion.
> >> I personally don't find it distracting.
> >> 
> >>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 5:39 PM, Marissa Solaun <solaunmarissa2...@gmail.com> 
> >>> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Have to agree with Marry and not Daniel 
> >>> 
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Re: Dictation bug fixed?

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Hi Sieghard. Sending a new message is fine. It's when you reply to an email 
that Voiceover crashes. Just thought I'd clear that up for you.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook
Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com

> On Oct 22, 2015, at 9:39 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> Hi again,
> 
> I just tried this on my old 5S and my 6S, both are now on iOS 9.1. I sent an 
> email to myself, I dictated it and tried it both with screen curtain off 
> which is usually what I have but I also tried it with screen curtain on. In 
> all four scenarios as soon as I double tap on the Send button I hear the 
> swoosh noise and I am back in my Inbox immediately with Voiceover talking and 
> I really mean immediately, there isn't even a second or two delay.
> 
> As I said, I would definitely close all apps, then go to Settings > General > 
> Reset and double tap Reset Network Settings. This will prompt you to confirm 
> and then after a couple of seconds your device will reboot. Once you are back 
> on the home screen you have to go to Settings > WiFi and reconnect to your 
> WiFi network (you will need your password). Then give it a try and see if it 
> makes a difference.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Rajmund
> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Dictation bug fixed?
> 
> Hello,
> I confirm the focus, and that's truly wonderful. But, are you dictating, or 
> writing your emails?  Do you have screen curtain on or off? 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Sieghard Weitzel  <siegh...@live.ca>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 6:11 pm
> Subject: RE: Dictation bug fixed?
> 
>> 
>> 
>> For whatever it's worth, I don't have this problem on my 5S nor on my 6S. If 
>> I send an email I hear the sound it makes that the email is sent and I can 
>> immediately continue to do other things or go into another email that I want 
>> to reply to.
>> 
>> Also, the focus bug has been fixed, if you are now in say message 15 of your 
>> Inbox and you go into the message and back out focus will remail on that 
>> message rather than jumping back up to the top.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Rajmund
>> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 3:40 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Dictation bug fixed?
>> 
>> Hello,
>> LOL, similar feelings. How many are in a thread, since I have it disabled in 
>> the first place But restarting VO, or wait minutes and minutes between 
>> sending messages, Hmm. Fortunately for some, they have note takers so I'm 
>> back to that, when there are a lot, even though VO could read much quicker 
>> than this thing, but sending is currently quicker on here.
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Mary Otten  <motte...@gmail.com>
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 5:23 am
>> Subject: Re: Dictation bug fixed?
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Having crap inserted into your messages, having your machine freeze up 
>>> every time this bug appears, and finding it distracting are none of them 
>>> trivial. If it doesn't bother you, that is wonderful. As for me, I really 
>>> don't give a damn about whether the number of messages in the thread is 
>>> announced. I understand others do, and that's great. For those people, I'm 
>>> glad this bug was fixed. But please don't call other bugs trivial, just 
>>> because they don't mean much to you. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 8:26 PM, Shawn Krasniuk <bbssh...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I second that Daniel. If Apple fixed every trivial bug that someone had 
>>>> because it's distracting to them, do you think that the more serious bugs 
>>>> like Bluetooth not working or the number of messages in a thread not being 
>>>> spoken in Mail would ever be fixed? Probably not until a later version. I 
>>>> don't find it distracting at all and even if dictation screwed something 
>>>> up, I can always shake my phone to perform the undo action. So to the 
>>>> person that asked if we beta testers report bugs, the answer is yes w

RE: Dictation bug fixed?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi again,

I just tried this on my old 5S and my 6S, both are now on iOS 9.1. I sent an 
email to myself, I dictated it and tried it both with screen curtain off which 
is usually what I have but I also tried it with screen curtain on. In all four 
scenarios as soon as I double tap on the Send button I hear the swoosh noise 
and I am back in my Inbox immediately with Voiceover talking and I really mean 
immediately, there isn't even a second or two delay.

As I said, I would definitely close all apps, then go to Settings > General > 
Reset and double tap Reset Network Settings. This will prompt you to confirm 
and then after a couple of seconds your device will reboot. Once you are back 
on the home screen you have to go to Settings > WiFi and reconnect to your WiFi 
network (you will need your password). Then give it a try and see if it makes a 
difference.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rajmund
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dictation bug fixed?

Hello,
I confirm the focus, and that's truly wonderful. But, are you dictating, or 
writing your emails?  Do you have screen curtain on or off? 

- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel  <siegh...@live.ca>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 6:11 pm
Subject: RE: Dictation bug fixed?

>
>
> For whatever it's worth, I don't have this problem on my 5S nor on my 6S. If 
> I send an email I hear the sound it makes that the email is sent and I can 
> immediately continue to do other things or go into another email that I want 
> to reply to.
> 
> Also, the focus bug has been fixed, if you are now in say message 15 of your 
> Inbox and you go into the message and back out focus will remail on that 
> message rather than jumping back up to the top.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Rajmund
> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 3:40 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Dictation bug fixed?
> 
> Hello,
> LOL, similar feelings. How many are in a thread, since I have it disabled in 
> the first place But restarting VO, or wait minutes and minutes between 
> sending messages, Hmm. Fortunately for some, they have note takers so I'm 
> back to that, when there are a lot, even though VO could read much quicker 
> than this thing, but sending is currently quicker on here.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Mary Otten  <motte...@gmail.com>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 5:23 am
> Subject: Re: Dictation bug fixed?
> 
> >
> >
> > Having crap inserted into your messages, having your machine freeze up 
> > every time this bug appears, and finding it distracting are none of them 
> > trivial. If it doesn't bother you, that is wonderful. As for me, I really 
> > don't give a damn about whether the number of messages in the thread is 
> > announced. I understand others do, and that's great. For those people, I'm 
> > glad this bug was fixed. But please don't call other bugs trivial, just 
> > because they don't mean much to you. 
> > 
> > Sent from my iPad
> > 
> > > On Oct 21, 2015, at 8:26 PM, Shawn Krasniuk <bbssh...@icloud.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > I second that Daniel. If Apple fixed every trivial bug that someone had 
> > > because it's distracting to them, do you think that the more serious bugs 
> > > like Bluetooth not working or the number of messages in a thread not 
> > > being spoken in Mail would ever be fixed? Probably not until a later 
> > > version. I don't find it distracting at all and even if dictation screwed 
> > > something up, I can always shake my phone to perform the undo action. So 
> > > to the person that asked if we beta testers report bugs, the answer is 
> > > yes we do. But I won't report something unless it's serious enough for me 
> > > to be concerned about. If you really do believe that Apple should fix 
> > > this so-called bug, then join the beta program. Sorry if this may sound 
> > > pissy, but personally, I don't see the big deal. I kinda find it helpful.
> > > 
> > > Shawn
> > > Sent From My White MacBook
> > > Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
> > > Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
> > > Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
> > > Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
> > > 
> > >> On Oct 21, 2015, at 5:41 PM, Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> 
> > >> To e

Re: Dictation bug fixed?

[Rajmund]

Hello,
Ah, there's your problem. You were dictating. Try writing one? Although, 
considering its 4 o'clock AM here, and am still up, the network settings will 
have to wait while I get up. But can you try writing one, please? 
PS. I have an iPad...

- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel  <siegh...@live.ca>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, October 23, 2015 3:39 am
Subject: RE: Dictation bug fixed?

>
>
> Hi again,
> 
> I just tried this on my old 5S and my 6S, both are now on iOS 9.1. I sent an 
> email to myself, I dictated it and tried it both with screen curtain off 
> which is usually what I have but I also tried it with screen curtain on. In 
> all four scenarios as soon as I double tap on the Send button I hear the 
> swoosh noise and I am back in my Inbox immediately with Voiceover talking and 
> I really mean immediately, there isn't even a second or two delay.
> 
> As I said, I would definitely close all apps, then go to Settings > General > 
> Reset and double tap Reset Network Settings. This will prompt you to confirm 
> and then after a couple of seconds your device will reboot. Once you are back 
> on the home screen you have to go to Settings > WiFi and reconnect to your 
> WiFi network (you will need your password). Then give it a try and see if it 
> makes a difference.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Rajmund
> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Dictation bug fixed?
> 
> Hello,
> I confirm the focus, and that's truly wonderful. But, are you dictating, or 
> writing your emails?  Do you have screen curtain on or off? 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Sieghard Weitzel  <siegh...@live.ca>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 6:11 pm
> Subject: RE: Dictation bug fixed?
> 
> >
> >
> > For whatever it's worth, I don't have this problem on my 5S nor on my 6S. 
> > If I send an email I hear the sound it makes that the email is sent and I 
> > can immediately continue to do other things or go into another email that I 
> > want to reply to.
> > 
> > Also, the focus bug has been fixed, if you are now in say message 15 of 
> > your Inbox and you go into the message and back out focus will remail on 
> > that message rather than jumping back up to the top.
> > 
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Sieghard
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> > Of Rajmund
> > Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 3:40 AM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: Dictation bug fixed?
> > 
> > Hello,
> > LOL, similar feelings. How many are in a thread, since I have it disabled 
> > in the first place But restarting VO, or wait minutes and minutes 
> > between sending messages, Hmm. Fortunately for some, they have note takers 
> > so I'm back to that, when there are a lot, even though VO could read much 
> > quicker than this thing, but sending is currently quicker on here.
> > 
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Mary Otten  <motte...@gmail.com>
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 5:23 am
> > Subject: Re: Dictation bug fixed?
> > 
> > >
> > >
> > > Having crap inserted into your messages, having your machine freeze up 
> > > every time this bug appears, and finding it distracting are none of them 
> > > trivial. If it doesn't bother you, that is wonderful. As for me, I really 
> > > don't give a damn about whether the number of messages in the thread is 
> > > announced. I understand others do, and that's great. For those people, 
> > > I'm glad this bug was fixed. But please don't call other bugs trivial, 
> > > just because they don't mean much to you. 
> > > 
> > > Sent from my iPad
> > > 
> > > > On Oct 21, 2015, at 8:26 PM, Shawn Krasniuk <bbssh...@icloud.com> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > I second that Daniel. If Apple fixed every trivial bug that someone had 
> > > > because it's distracting to them, do you think that the more serious 
> > > > bugs like Bluetooth not working or the number of messages in a thread 
> > > > not being spoken in Mail would ever be fixed? Probably not until a 
> > > > later version. I don't find it distracting at all and even if dictation 
> > > > screwed something up, I can always shake my phon

Re: Dictation bug fixed?

[Rajmund]

Hello SIEGHARD,
So, I just tried, couldn't resist. Another thing. When you send, its OK. I sent 
myself one, that's OK,  unlike replying. Try and write a response to something. 
Although, the wifi reset moved the extras folder off top of the screen. LOL, I 
always hated it being there.


- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel  <siegh...@live.ca>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, October 23, 2015 3:39 am
Subject: RE: Dictation bug fixed?

>
>
> Hi again,
> 
> I just tried this on my old 5S and my 6S, both are now on iOS 9.1. I sent an 
> email to myself, I dictated it and tried it both with screen curtain off 
> which is usually what I have but I also tried it with screen curtain on. In 
> all four scenarios as soon as I double tap on the Send button I hear the 
> swoosh noise and I am back in my Inbox immediately with Voiceover talking and 
> I really mean immediately, there isn't even a second or two delay.
> 
> As I said, I would definitely close all apps, then go to Settings > General > 
> Reset and double tap Reset Network Settings. This will prompt you to confirm 
> and then after a couple of seconds your device will reboot. Once you are back 
> on the home screen you have to go to Settings > WiFi and reconnect to your 
> WiFi network (you will need your password). Then give it a try and see if it 
> makes a difference.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Rajmund
> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Dictation bug fixed?
> 
> Hello,
> I confirm the focus, and that's truly wonderful. But, are you dictating, or 
> writing your emails?  Do you have screen curtain on or off? 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Sieghard Weitzel  <siegh...@live.ca>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 6:11 pm
> Subject: RE: Dictation bug fixed?
> 
> >
> >
> > For whatever it's worth, I don't have this problem on my 5S nor on my 6S. 
> > If I send an email I hear the sound it makes that the email is sent and I 
> > can immediately continue to do other things or go into another email that I 
> > want to reply to.
> > 
> > Also, the focus bug has been fixed, if you are now in say message 15 of 
> > your Inbox and you go into the message and back out focus will remail on 
> > that message rather than jumping back up to the top.
> > 
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Sieghard
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> > Of Rajmund
> > Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 3:40 AM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: Dictation bug fixed?
> > 
> > Hello,
> > LOL, similar feelings. How many are in a thread, since I have it disabled 
> > in the first place But restarting VO, or wait minutes and minutes 
> > between sending messages, Hmm. Fortunately for some, they have note takers 
> > so I'm back to that, when there are a lot, even though VO could read much 
> > quicker than this thing, but sending is currently quicker on here.
> > 
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Mary Otten  <motte...@gmail.com>
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 5:23 am
> > Subject: Re: Dictation bug fixed?
> > 
> > >
> > >
> > > Having crap inserted into your messages, having your machine freeze up 
> > > every time this bug appears, and finding it distracting are none of them 
> > > trivial. If it doesn't bother you, that is wonderful. As for me, I really 
> > > don't give a damn about whether the number of messages in the thread is 
> > > announced. I understand others do, and that's great. For those people, 
> > > I'm glad this bug was fixed. But please don't call other bugs trivial, 
> > > just because they don't mean much to you. 
> > > 
> > > Sent from my iPad
> > > 
> > > > On Oct 21, 2015, at 8:26 PM, Shawn Krasniuk <bbssh...@icloud.com> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > I second that Daniel. If Apple fixed every trivial bug that someone had 
> > > > because it's distracting to them, do you think that the more serious 
> > > > bugs like Bluetooth not working or the number of messages in a thread 
> > > > not being spoken in Mail would ever be fixed? Probably not until a 
> > > > later version. I don't find it distracting at all and even if dictation 
> > > > screwed s

RE: Dictation bug fixed?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

What email bug is that, can you explain what exactly is happening with your 
email?


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
rajmund
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dictation bug fixed?

Hello,
Me, the email bug is making me mad. Perhaps, the most obvious bug of all, and 
it's still there

Sent from  an iPad using braille screen input. Please excuse any spelling 
errors.

> On 21 Oct 2015, at 10:33 p.m., Marissa Solaun <solaunmarissa2...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> If people are beta testing these things I understand things are not 100% 
> perfect but really do people actually report bugs to Apple? I understand it 
> released will have its bugs but this is kind of ridiculous then, when you 
> email Apple they say that they cannot reproduce the issue even if you give 
> them the steps. Where they say that it's specific to your device and that you 
> should contact Apple's technical support 
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RE: Dictation bug fixed?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

For whatever it's worth, I don't have this problem on my 5S nor on my 6S. If I 
send an email I hear the sound it makes that the email is sent and I can 
immediately continue to do other things or go into another email that I want to 
reply to.

Also, the focus bug has been fixed, if you are now in say message 15 of your 
Inbox and you go into the message and back out focus will remail on that 
message rather than jumping back up to the top.


Regards,
Sieghard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rajmund
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 3:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dictation bug fixed?

Hello,
LOL, similar feelings. How many are in a thread, since I have it disabled in 
the first place But restarting VO, or wait minutes and minutes between 
sending messages, Hmm. Fortunately for some, they have note takers so I'm back 
to that, when there are a lot, even though VO could read much quicker than this 
thing, but sending is currently quicker on here.

- Original Message -
From: Mary Otten  <motte...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 5:23 am
Subject: Re: Dictation bug fixed?

>
>
> Having crap inserted into your messages, having your machine freeze up every 
> time this bug appears, and finding it distracting are none of them trivial. 
> If it doesn't bother you, that is wonderful. As for me, I really don't give a 
> damn about whether the number of messages in the thread is announced. I 
> understand others do, and that's great. For those people, I'm glad this bug 
> was fixed. But please don't call other bugs trivial, just because they don't 
> mean much to you. 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> > On Oct 21, 2015, at 8:26 PM, Shawn Krasniuk <bbssh...@icloud.com> wrote:
> > 
> > I second that Daniel. If Apple fixed every trivial bug that someone had 
> > because it's distracting to them, do you think that the more serious bugs 
> > like Bluetooth not working or the number of messages in a thread not being 
> > spoken in Mail would ever be fixed? Probably not until a later version. I 
> > don't find it distracting at all and even if dictation screwed something 
> > up, I can always shake my phone to perform the undo action. So to the 
> > person that asked if we beta testers report bugs, the answer is yes we do. 
> > But I won't report something unless it's serious enough for me to be 
> > concerned about. If you really do believe that Apple should fix this 
> > so-called bug, then join the beta program. Sorry if this may sound pissy, 
> > but personally, I don't see the big deal. I kinda find it helpful.
> > 
> > Shawn
> > Sent From My White MacBook
> > Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
> > Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
> > Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
> > Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
> > 
> >> On Oct 21, 2015, at 5:41 PM, Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >> To each their own, everyone's entitled to their opinion.
> >> I personally don't find it distracting.
> >> 
> >>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 5:39 PM, Marissa Solaun <solaunmarissa2...@gmail.com> 
> >>> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Have to agree with Marry and not Daniel 
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Re: Dictation bug fixed?

[Marissa Solaun]

Contact Apple 

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 21, 2015, at 9:36 PM, 'Simon w' via VIPhone  
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The problem I'm having now is once I've read an email, and I delete it from the 
pile, it still shows that I have X number of emails when I have deleted some 
like let's take 60 for example, as I'm going through the emails and deleting 
them the phone still says 60.

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Dictation bug fixed?

[Marissa Solaun]

I was the individual who asked about beta testers and I guess I'll have to 
join. Because what person may believe is not s serious bug is not to serious to 
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until later betas . I just want voiceover to work and work right . 

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Re: Dictation bug fixed?

[Mary Otten]

Having crap inserted into your messages, having your machine freeze up every 
time this bug appears, and finding it distracting are none of them trivial. If 
it doesn't bother you, that is wonderful. As for me, I really don't give a damn 
about whether the number of messages in the thread is announced. I understand 
others do, and that's great. For those people, I'm glad this bug was fixed. But 
please don't call other bugs trivial, just because they don't mean much to you. 

Sent from my iPad

> On Oct 21, 2015, at 8:26 PM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
> 
> I second that Daniel. If Apple fixed every trivial bug that someone had 
> because it's distracting to them, do you think that the more serious bugs 
> like Bluetooth not working or the number of messages in a thread not being 
> spoken in Mail would ever be fixed? Probably not until a later version. I 
> don't find it distracting at all and even if dictation screwed something up, 
> I can always shake my phone to perform the undo action. So to the person that 
> asked if we beta testers report bugs, the answer is yes we do. But I won't 
> report something unless it's serious enough for me to be concerned about. If 
> you really do believe that Apple should fix this so-called bug, then join the 
> beta program. Sorry if this may sound pissy, but personally, I don't see the 
> big deal. I kinda find it helpful.
> 
> Shawn
> Sent From My White MacBook
> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
> 
>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 5:41 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
>> 
>> To each their own, everyone’s entitled to their opinion.
>> I personally don’t find it distracting.
>> 
>>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 5:39 PM, Marissa Solaun  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Have to agree with Marry and not Daniel 
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Re: Dictation bug fixed?

['Simon w' via VIPhone]

The problem I'm having now is once I've read an email, and I delete it from the 
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Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Dictation bug fixed?

[Lisa Soulor]

No, unfortunately it isn't. I tried it as soon as I downloaded and
installed 9.1 because that is the biggest problem I have had.
Lisa

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>  I want to find out with iOS 9.1 if anybody has found out if the dictation
> bug with voiceover is fixed. The bug but I'm referring to is what saved in
> incoming text message and you reply directly from the notification itself
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RE: Dictation bug fixed?

[Rick Alfaro]

Very interesting as some seem to have it fixd and others not. I just tested 
quickly in the mail composition window and I was very happy to see that it 
seems fixed at least for me. Hopefully, it will stay that way.



Best regards,

Rick Alfaro

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Marissa Solaun
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 5:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dictation bug fixed?

Turn off the speech of VO then turn it back on after dictation. It seems fixed 
at least on my device 

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 21, 2015, at 2:13 PM, Lisa Soulor <hisgrace...@gmail.com> wrote:

No, unfortunately it isn't. I tried it as soon as I downloaded and
installed 9.1 because that is the biggest problem I have had.
Lisa

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Re: Dictation bug fixed?

[Shawn Krasniuk]

I was one of the beta testers of iOS 9.1 and no, the bug isn't fixed.

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Re: Dictation bug fixed?

[Daniel Miller]

Hi guys,

If you really take the time to calm down and think about it, it seems like they 
intentionally did that by design. Let me explain why I think so before you all 
go on a rant about how it’s not fixed and apple doesn’t care about 
accessibility, blah blah blah.
It makes perfect sense for this to be by design, because sometimes dictation 
will not always respond back with what you actually said, especially in noisy 
environments, so having VoiceOver read you what dictation is hearing can be a 
lifesaver, that way you know 100% that what you’re saying is what’s going to be 
inserted into the text field.
I kind of like that, and hope they don’t revert back to how it was before.

> On Oct 21, 2015, at 4:34 PM, Rick Alfaro <rick.alf...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Very interesting as some seem to have it fixd and others not. I just tested 
> quickly in the mail composition window and I was very happy to see that it 
> seems fixed at least for me. Hopefully, it will stay that way.
> 
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Rick Alfaro
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Marissa Solaun
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> Subject: Re: Dictation bug fixed?
> 
> Turn off the speech of VO then turn it back on after dictation. It seems 
> fixed at least on my device 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Oct 21, 2015, at 2:13 PM, Lisa Soulor <hisgrace...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> No, unfortunately it isn't. I tried it as soon as I downloaded and
> installed 9.1 because that is the biggest problem I have had.
> Lisa
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Re: Dictation bug fixed?

[Marissa Solaun]

 If people are beta testing these things I understand things are not 100% 
perfect but really do people actually report bugs to Apple? I understand it 
released will have its bugs but this is kind of ridiculous then, when you email 
Apple they say that they cannot reproduce the issue even if you give them the 
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Re: Dictation bug fixed?

[Marissa Solaun]

Turn off the speech of VO then turn it back on after dictation. It seems fixed 
at least on my device 

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 21, 2015, at 2:13 PM, Lisa Soulor  wrote:

No, unfortunately it isn't. I tried it as soon as I downloaded and
installed 9.1 because that is the biggest problem I have had.
Lisa

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Re: Dictation bug fixed?

[rajmund]

Hello,
When voice over stops responding, once you sent a message.

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> On 21 Oct 2015, at 10:58 p.m., Marissa Solaun  
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> Which one now? 
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> On Oct 21, 2015, at 2:56 PM, rajmund  wrote:
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> Hello,
> Me, the email bug is making me mad. Perhaps, the most obvious bug of all, and 
> it's still there
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Re: Dictation bug fixed?

[Marissa Solaun]

Which one now? 

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On Oct 21, 2015, at 2:56 PM, rajmund  wrote:

Hello,
Me, the email bug is making me mad. Perhaps, the most obvious bug of all, and 
it's still there

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Re: Dictation bug fixed?

[Daniel Miller]

To each their own, everyone’s entitled to their opinion.
I personally don’t find it distracting.

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Re: Dictation bug fixed?

[rajmund]

Hello,
Me, the email bug is making me mad. Perhaps, the most obvious bug of all, and 
it's still there

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Re: Dictation bug fixed?

[rajmund]

Hello,
I xever dictate, but agree with you. I, however, wouldn't want it to be 
inserted. They should make it so that RO is not caught.

Sent from  an iPad using braille screen input. Please excuse any spelling 
errors.

> On 21 Oct 2015, at 10:45 p.m., Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi guys,
> 
> If you really take the time to calm down and think about it, it seems like 
> they intentionally did that by design. Let me explain why I think so before 
> you all go on a rant about how it’s not fixed and apple doesn’t care about 
> accessibility, blah blah blah.
> It makes perfect sense for this to be by design, because sometimes dictation 
> will not always respond back with what you actually said, especially in noisy 
> environments, so having VoiceOver read you what dictation is hearing can be a 
> lifesaver, that way you know 100% that what you’re saying is what’s going to 
> be inserted into the text field.
> I kind of like that, and hope they don’t revert back to how it was before.
> 
>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 4:34 PM, Rick Alfaro <rick.alf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Very interesting as some seem to have it fixd and others not. I just tested 
>> quickly in the mail composition window and I was very happy to see that it 
>> seems fixed at least for me. Hopefully, it will stay that way.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Rick Alfaro
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Marissa Solaun
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 5:15 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Dictation bug fixed?
>> 
>> Turn off the speech of VO then turn it back on after dictation. It seems 
>> fixed at least on my device 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 2:13 PM, Lisa Soulor <hisgrace...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> No, unfortunately it isn't. I tried it as soon as I downloaded and
>> installed 9.1 because that is the biggest problem I have had.
>> Lisa
>> 
>>> On 10/21/15, Marissa Solaun <solaunmarissa2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I want to find out with iOS 9.1 if anybody has found out if the dictation
>>> bug with voiceover is fixed. The bug but I'm referring to is what saved in
>>> incoming text message and you reply directly from the notification itself
>>> and you were using voiceover when you dictate originally voice from her
>>> would say the contents of what you have dictated and dictate would insert
>>> that into your message
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Re: Dictation bug fixed?

[Marissa Solaun]

Yes I agree although at least in my case the dictation bug is fixed 

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On Oct 21, 2015, at 3:01 PM, rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,
I xever dictate, but agree with you. I, however, wouldn't want it to be 
inserted. They should make it so that RO is not caught.

Sent from  an iPad using braille screen input. Please excuse any spelling 
errors.

> On 21 Oct 2015, at 10:45 p.m., Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi guys,
> 
> If you really take the time to calm down and think about it, it seems like 
> they intentionally did that by design. Let me explain why I think so before 
> you all go on a rant about how it’s not fixed and apple doesn’t care about 
> accessibility, blah blah blah.
> It makes perfect sense for this to be by design, because sometimes dictation 
> will not always respond back with what you actually said, especially in noisy 
> environments, so having VoiceOver read you what dictation is hearing can be a 
> lifesaver, that way you know 100% that what you’re saying is what’s going to 
> be inserted into the text field.
> I kind of like that, and hope they don’t revert back to how it was before.
> 
>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 4:34 PM, Rick Alfaro <rick.alf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Very interesting as some seem to have it fixd and others not. I just tested 
>> quickly in the mail composition window and I was very happy to see that it 
>> seems fixed at least for me. Hopefully, it will stay that way.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Rick Alfaro
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Marissa Solaun
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 5:15 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Dictation bug fixed?
>> 
>> Turn off the speech of VO then turn it back on after dictation. It seems 
>> fixed at least on my device 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 2:13 PM, Lisa Soulor <hisgrace...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> No, unfortunately it isn't. I tried it as soon as I downloaded and
>> installed 9.1 because that is the biggest problem I have had.
>> Lisa
>> 
>>> On 10/21/15, Marissa Solaun <solaunmarissa2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I want to find out with iOS 9.1 if anybody has found out if the dictation
>>> bug with voiceover is fixed. The bug but I'm referring to is what saved in
>>> incoming text message and you reply directly from the notification itself
>>> and you were using voiceover when you dictate originally voice from her
>>> would say the contents of what you have dictated and dictate would insert
>>> that into your message
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Re: Dictation bug fixed?

[Mary Otten]

Sorry, Daniel. I can't agree with you on this one. There is no way that having 
dictation say back to you what it thinks you were hearing is a good thing and 
done by design. For one thing, it is distracting. For another thing, when it 
does that, and you stop dictation with the two finger double tap, it doesn't 
stop right away as it used to. It hangs there. And voiceover keeps talking, 
inserting random crap  that you then have to go back and delete. Plus, this 
dictation where voiceover speaks as you do is quite random. For instance, I 
almost never see it when I am dictating just a plain old email like this one. 
But, if I send an email from another app, such as newsify or Safari, or even 
talking into a Facebook message, I see it more often than not. If it were by 
design, I think it would be consistent. And I also think that the double tap to 
cease dictating would react more quickly than it does when this random 
voiceover speech is happening. When it doesn't happen, the double tap always 
stops dictation immediately. When voiceover is supposedly repeating what it 
hears, it always hangs after you double tap. At least that is my experience on 
two different devices. And, to get things back in order, I almost always have 
to turn voiceover off and on again when this speech during dictation occurs. 
So, those are the reasons why I believe it is in fact a bug.

Mary

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> On Oct 21, 2015, at 2:45 PM, Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi guys,
> 
> If you really take the time to calm down and think about it, it seems like 
> they intentionally did that by design. Let me explain why I think so before 
> you all go on a rant about how it’s not fixed and apple doesn’t care about 
> accessibility, blah blah blah.
> It makes perfect sense for this to be by design, because sometimes dictation 
> will not always respond back with what you actually said, especially in noisy 
> environments, so having VoiceOver read you what dictation is hearing can be a 
> lifesaver, that way you know 100% that what you’re saying is what’s going to 
> be inserted into the text field.
> I kind of like that, and hope they don’t revert back to how it was before.
> 
>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 4:34 PM, Rick Alfaro <rick.alf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Very interesting as some seem to have it fixd and others not. I just tested 
>> quickly in the mail composition window and I was very happy to see that it 
>> seems fixed at least for me. Hopefully, it will stay that way.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Rick Alfaro
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Marissa Solaun
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 5:15 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Dictation bug fixed?
>> 
>> Turn off the speech of VO then turn it back on after dictation. It seems 
>> fixed at least on my device 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 2:13 PM, Lisa Soulor <hisgrace...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> No, unfortunately it isn't. I tried it as soon as I downloaded and
>> installed 9.1 because that is the biggest problem I have had.
>> Lisa
>> 
>>> On 10/21/15, Marissa Solaun <solaunmarissa2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I want to find out with iOS 9.1 if anybody has found out if the dictation
>>> bug with voiceover is fixed. The bug but I'm referring to is what saved in
>>> incoming text message and you reply directly from the notification itself
>>> and you were using voiceover when you dictate originally voice from her
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>>> that into your message
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Re: Dictation bug fixed?

[Marissa Solaun]

Have to agree with Marry and not Daniel 

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Re: Dictation bug fixed?

[Shawn Krasniuk]

I second that Daniel. If Apple fixed every trivial bug that someone had because 
it's distracting to them, do you think that the more serious bugs like 
Bluetooth not working or the number of messages in a thread not being spoken in 
Mail would ever be fixed? Probably not until a later version. I don't find it 
distracting at all and even if dictation screwed something up, I can always 
shake my phone to perform the undo action. So to the person that asked if we 
beta testers report bugs, the answer is yes we do. But I won't report something 
unless it's serious enough for me to be concerned about. If you really do 
believe that Apple should fix this so-called bug, then join the beta program. 
Sorry if this may sound pissy, but personally, I don't see the big deal. I 
kinda find it helpful.

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> On Oct 21, 2015, at 5:41 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
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> To each their own, everyone’s entitled to their opinion.
> I personally don’t find it distracting.
> 
>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 5:39 PM, Marissa Solaun  
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>> Have to agree with Marry and not Daniel 
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Re: Dictation bug fixed?

[Daniel Miller]

Thank you, Shawn.

It did that all throughout the 9.0 beta cycle, so I think that’s here to stay, 
as annoying as some of you may find it.

> On Oct 21, 2015, at 10:26 PM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
> 
> I second that Daniel. If Apple fixed every trivial bug that someone had 
> because it's distracting to them, do you think that the more serious bugs 
> like Bluetooth not working or the number of messages in a thread not being 
> spoken in Mail would ever be fixed? Probably not until a later version. I 
> don't find it distracting at all and even if dictation screwed something up, 
> I can always shake my phone to perform the undo action. So to the person that 
> asked if we beta testers report bugs, the answer is yes we do. But I won't 
> report something unless it's serious enough for me to be concerned about. If 
> you really do believe that Apple should fix this so-called bug, then join the 
> beta program. Sorry if this may sound pissy, but personally, I don't see the 
> big deal. I kinda find it helpful.
> 
> Shawn
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>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 5:41 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
>> 
>> To each their own, everyone’s entitled to their opinion.
>> I personally don’t find it distracting.
>> 
>>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 5:39 PM, Marissa Solaun  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Have to agree with Marry and not Daniel 
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Re: Dictation bug iOS 9.0.2

[Mary Otten]

This bug has been commented on I think from time to time. It seems to show up 
on a random basis, at least for me, sometimes on Facebook, sometimes when 
sending an email based off of a Safari link, and very occasionally in the email 
app itself. Voiceover talks when I am talking, and I see that as a definite bug 
that needs to go away. I have reported it to Apple accessibility. I like 
hearing what it put in after I am through dictating, not at the same time.
Mary

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> On Oct 9, 2015, at 10:33 AM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
> 
> I don’t think that’s a bug, I kind of like that, honestly.
>> On Oct 9, 2015, at 12:27 PM, Marissa Solaun  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Guessing this is a bug:
>> 
>> Have you noticed an issue with dictation & replying to a notification? text 
>> message as an example?  so you will receive a text reply to it ( not opening 
>> the messages app) but directly replying from the Notification itself , 
>> double tap on dictation . Voiceover will announce whats been dictated and 
>> dictation will insert that it's like voiceover + dictation have a mind of 
>> there own. Voiceover used to be quiet in prior versions of iOS when using 
>> dictation. A temporary workaround for this is once you sure you are ready to 
>> dictation turn off VO speech dictate message then resume speech and correct 
>> any errors 
>> 
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Re: Dictation bug iOS 9.0.2

[brian albriton]

I got   bug just dictating an email this morning   

> On Oct 9, 2015, at 1:32 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> This bug has been commented on I think from time to time. It seems to show up 
> on a random basis, at least for me, sometimes on Facebook, sometimes when 
> sending an email based off of a Safari link, and very occasionally in the 
> email app itself. Voiceover talks when I am talking, and I see that as a 
> definite bug that needs to go away. I have reported it to Apple 
> accessibility. I like hearing what it put in after I am through dictating, 
> not at the same time.
> Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 9, 2015, at 10:33 AM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
>> 
>> I don’t think that’s a bug, I kind of like that, honestly.
>>> On Oct 9, 2015, at 12:27 PM, Marissa Solaun  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Guessing this is a bug:
>>> 
>>> Have you noticed an issue with dictation & replying to a notification? text 
>>> message as an example?  so you will receive a text reply to it ( not 
>>> opening the messages app) but directly replying from the Notification 
>>> itself , double tap on dictation . Voiceover will announce whats been 
>>> dictated and dictation will insert that it's like voiceover + dictation 
>>> have a mind of there own. Voiceover used to be quiet in prior versions of 
>>> iOS when using dictation. A temporary workaround for this is once you sure 
>>> you are ready to dictation turn off VO speech dictate message then resume 
>>> speech and correct any errors 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Dictation bug iOS 9.0.2

[Daniel Miller]

I don’t think that’s a bug, I kind of like that, honestly.
> On Oct 9, 2015, at 12:27 PM, Marissa Solaun  
> wrote:
> 
> Guessing this is a bug:
> 
> Have you noticed an issue with dictation & replying to a notification? text 
> message as an example?  so you will receive a text reply to it ( not opening 
> the messages app) but directly replying from the Notification itself , double 
> tap on dictation . Voiceover will announce whats been dictated and dictation 
> will insert that it's like voiceover + dictation have a mind of there own. 
> Voiceover used to be quiet in prior versions of iOS when using dictation. A 
> temporary workaround for this is once you sure you are ready to dictation 
> turn off VO speech dictate message then resume speech and correct any errors 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Dictation bug iOS 9.0.2

[Rajmund]

Hello,
I think its a good idea, too, except that VO shouldn't be caught. Meaning, that 
bit shouldn't be inserted.

- Original Message -
From: Daniel Miller  <miller...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, October 9, 2015 6:33 pm
Subject: Re: Dictation bug iOS 9.0.2

>
>
> I don't think that's a bug, I kind of like that, honestly.
> > On Oct 9, 2015, at 12:27 PM, Marissa Solaun <solaunmarissa2...@gmail.com> 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > Guessing this is a bug:
> > 
> > Have you noticed an issue with dictation & replying to a notification? text 
> > message as an example?  so you will receive a text reply to it ( not 
> > opening the messages app) but directly replying from the Notification 
> > itself , double tap on dictation . Voiceover will announce whats been 
> > dictated and dictation will insert that it's like voiceover + dictation 
> > have a mind of there own. Voiceover used to be quiet in prior versions of 
> > iOS when using dictation. A temporary workaround for this is once you sure 
> > you are ready to dictation turn off VO speech dictate message then resume 
> > speech and correct any errors 
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
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RE: dictation bug iOS 9.0.2

[Marissa Solaun]

Why is it not a bug ? And what does the poster mean by voiceover shouldn't be 
caught ?

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Re: dictation bug iOS 9.0.2

[Rajmund]

Hello,
Well, I was one of the posters. I would personally want to hear what box I'm 
in. However, I wouldn't want that box label in the message. So I think  voice 
over should be filtered. But still read the box.

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From: Marissa Solaun  <solaunmarissa2...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, October 9, 2015 8:49 pm
Subject: RE: dictation bug iOS 9.0.2

>
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> Why is it not a bug ? And what does the poster mean by voiceover shouldn't be 
> caught ?
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> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: dictation in messages is marked dim with the iPhone6

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Have you rebooted your phone, that often fixes these types of strange issues.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
John J. Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2015 7:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: dictation in messages is marked dim with the iPhone6

 

Hi: I use an iPhone 6. When I try to dictate in text messages, it says, 
"dictation dim", The dictation is not dim under notes, just under messages. Any 
ideas would be appreciated.

Thanks.

 

John J. Fioravanti 

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