RE: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

2013-09-19 Thread Sherry Gomes
AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare I think what you are experiencing, is in some books the first letter of the chapter is artsy, or calligraphy. This is an image that voiceover cannot pick up. This is true on many Kindle book

Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

2013-09-17 Thread Alan Paganelli
al Message - From: "Arianna" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 10:32 AM Subject: Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare I just checked out that setting, but it was already turned off. I do remember that when I used the rotor or my Braille di

Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

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Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

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Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

2013-09-17 Thread Arianna
> website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! > > - Original Message - From: "Arianna" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 7:00 AM > Subject: Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare > > > I do t

Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

2013-09-17 Thread Alan Paganelli
quest. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: "Arianna" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 7:00 AM Subject: Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare I do the same as you. Although, I've run across books on Amazon which, at the beg

Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare -- Or Kindle vs. IBooks

2013-09-17 Thread Isaac Hebert
What two applications? On 9/17/13, SSEric wrote: > Does anyone know of a comprehensive comparison of these two > applications/services? Or, might you be able to give a quick overview of the > differences. > > All thanks! > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhon

Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare -- Or Kindle vs. IBooks

2013-09-17 Thread SSEric
Does anyone know of a comprehensive comparison of these two applications/services? Or, might you be able to give a quick overview of the differences. All thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing v

Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

2013-09-17 Thread Arianna
I do the same as you. Although, I've run across books on Amazon which, at the beginning of some pages, especially after chapter beginnings, would have the first few letters of the first word missing. I found that a bit irritating, as I'd paid for a good copy of the books in question. Thanks, A

Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

2013-05-15 Thread Scott Davert
ars ago. >> >> Andy >> >> From: Alan Paganelli >> Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 1:05 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from >> Bookshare >> I wouldn't exactly call 50 bucks a year

Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

2013-05-15 Thread Tom Lange
ry few days for even more additions. So I definitely don't want Bookshare to go away any time soon. Tom - Original Message - From: Jan Stirbens To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:00 PM Subject: Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading

Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

2013-05-14 Thread Jan Stirbens
ear or two, so I’m beginning to wonder if Bookshare is > as relevant or needed as it was, say 10 years ago. > > Andy > > From: Alan Paganelli > Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 1:05 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bo

Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

2013-05-14 Thread Alan Paganelli
ty books though! - Original Message - From: Andy Baracco To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 7:43 PM Subject: Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare I am a member of bookshare, and even though I don’t download many of their books, I kee

Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

2013-05-14 Thread Alan Paganelli
>> >> -Original Message- From: Andy Baracco >> Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 3:50 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare >> >> I can't off hand think of a book that

Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

2013-05-14 Thread Alan Paganelli
LOL! Me too! And I did the Reacher novels too! - Original Message - From: Andy Baracco To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 7:47 PM Subject: Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare So did my mom, at least the Perry Mason ones

Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

2013-05-14 Thread Russ Kiehne
Thanks to Bookshare, I've read 300 Hardy Boys books several times. -Original Message- From: Andy Baracco Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 7:47 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare So did my mom, at least the Perry

RE: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

2013-05-14 Thread Rose Combs
y them. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: "Eileens Misrahi" To: Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 11:49 AM Subject: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare Hello List, Besides the obvious of,Bookshare not having a particular book, what other advantages does the

Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

2013-05-14 Thread Ricardo Walker
e > Once an Eagle > Always an Eagle > > On May 13, 2013, at 9:39 AM, "Russ Kiehne" wrote: > >> I've read all of the Perry Mason novels and Louis L'amour novels more than >> once. >> >> -Original Message- From: Andy Baracco >>

Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

2013-05-14 Thread Ricardo Walker
s it was, say 10 years ago. > > Andy > > From: Alan Paganelli > Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 1:05 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare > I wouldn't exactly call 50 bucks a year free. You can buy allot

Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

2013-05-13 Thread Andy Baracco
So did my mom, at least the Perry Mason ones, and she drove me up the wall with the TV shows too. Andy -Original Message- From: Russ Kiehne Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 6:39 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

2013-05-13 Thread Andy Baracco
@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare I wouldn't exactly call 50 bucks a year free. You can buy allot of books for that kind of money. All kidding aside, I am a Bookshare member and I also have the iBooks and Kindle reading apps. I like the i

Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

2013-05-13 Thread Alan Paganelli
- From: Raul A. Gallegos To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 1:43 PM Subject: Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare ,one thing which I'm wondering about is what's the real difference in using books from Bookshare VS Kindle sin

Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

2013-05-13 Thread Chris Hill
Always is a really big word with Amazon. I've purchased a book where maybe the image for the sighted was good, the searchable text we read was crappy ocr. They will take it back, but you have to be willing to go to the effort. On 5/12/2013 19:49, Rick Alfaro wrote: Hi, Since my particular

Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

2013-05-13 Thread Aaron Linson
aracco > Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 3:50 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare > > I can't off hand think of a book that I have read more than once, perhaps 1 > or 2, but something I would do rarely. >

RE: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

2013-05-13 Thread Lisa Larges
s.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 3:43 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare ,one thing which I'm wondering about is what's the real difference in using book

Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

2013-05-13 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
,one thing which I'm wondering about is what's the real difference in using books from Bookshare VS Kindle since none of it is free. Bookshare still costs money, and so do subscription to Bookshare and then only get a few books a month from it. Does the cost end up being less or more than if you

Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

2013-05-13 Thread Russ Kiehne
I've read all of the Perry Mason novels and Louis L'amour novels more than once. -Original Message- From: Andy Baracco Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 3:50 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare I can't of

Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

2013-05-13 Thread Alan Paganelli
good. - Original Message - From: Eileens Misrahi To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 8:49 AM Subject: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare Hello List, Besides the obvious of,Bookshare not having a particular book, what other advantages

Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

2013-05-13 Thread Regina Alvarado
Good post Mary. We do not get to go to the library so why not bookshare? It will not have every book so there will be lots to buy. I edit for two authors who sels publish and their books are definitely not on BKS. By the way, the books are very good, too. Reggie and Allegra, my little pill On

Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

2013-05-13 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hello, we might be talking about two different things. I'm talking about borrowing books directly from Amazon. I believe your talking about people being allowed to lend there books to others. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On May 13

Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

2013-05-13 Thread Jane
That's not true. I am reading a borrowed book that my Mom loaned to me on my iDevice. Jane On May 13, 2013, at 1:17 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hello Cara, > > You do not have a set due date for borrowed Kindle books but, you can only > borrow 1 book a month and, only 1 book at a time. Y

Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

2013-05-13 Thread Richard Ring
First of all, we don't need to justify any way we gain access to books. I know many sighted people who never buy books be they hard copy or otherwise. They borrow them from public libraries and pay nothing. I think that fact that we now have so many sources of reading material is a truly marvelo

Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

2013-05-13 Thread Kimberly
I buy a lot of books including novels from several different sources — amazon, audible, iBooks and nook. Before digital downloads I used to buy books on tape especially if the title was from a favorite author. I just like to support them in their writing. I also borrow a lot of books from NLS, m

Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

2013-05-13 Thread Mary Otten
Hi Cara, Kindle borrowed books do have a time limit, as do overdrive books from the library. My husband once lent me a Kindle book, and I think the loan period was 2 weeks, but it may have been 7 days. And while it is true that bookshare books have no time limit, for many of those books, at leas

Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

2013-05-12 Thread Chuck Dean
Hi Eileen , I prefer iBooks, Kindle, and Nook books over Bookshare because they automatically sync bookmarks, and the place I left off over my various devices. I can start a book on my iPad mini, read it on the bus on my iPhone, or out on the patio on my old iPhone 3Gs. The Kindle whisper network

Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

2013-05-12 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hello Cara, You do not have a set due date for borrowed Kindle books but, you can only borrow 1 book a month and, only 1 book at a time. You must also be an Amazon prime member. Plus, you can only read borrowed books on Kindle readers, not Kindle apps on other devices. hth Ricardo Walker ri

Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

2013-05-12 Thread Andy Baracco
you can keep Bookshare downloads for as long as you like. it is not a library in the traditional sense. Andy -Original Message- From: Cara Quinn Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 8:05 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

2013-05-12 Thread Cara Quinn
40 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare > > Hi, Cara. > > As someone else pointed out, Bookshare is kind of like a library. Well, > admittedly, you can keep the books from Bookshare. But now that I am able

Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

2013-05-12 Thread Cara Quinn
Just so I'm clear, do the books from BookShare have a time limit on their borrowing? How about the people you know who borrow books on Kindle? is there a time limit on them or, like iBooks, are there just sample chapters? Thanks so much! Cara :) On May 12, 2013, at 3:33 PM, John Diakogeorgiou

Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

2013-05-12 Thread Cara Quinn
Hi Mary, thanks so much for your note! I'm having a little trouble with the comparison between services like BookShare and a library, only because with a library you must return the books and with BookShare the book is yours for as long as you like. I guess I'd see more of a comparison between

Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

2013-05-12 Thread Rick Alfaro
Hi, Since my particular usage is strictly for pleasure reading, I don't use some of the Kindle features like annotations and dictionary look up. Having said that, there are 2 differences in my view. 1. Although BookShare has a lot of books, Amazon has way more. If I can find the book on Books

Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

2013-05-12 Thread Lauren Simmons
Oops, don't know what happened with my previous message so I'll just continue... ..Nah, forget it, I don't want to get involved in these types of discussions involving opinion because they are endless. Sorry for wasting your time. :) LS -- You received this message because you are subscrib

Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

2013-05-12 Thread Andy Baracco
This is true. Andy -Original Message- From: Lynda Ingraham Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 4:01 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare Hi Andy, For me personally, cookbooks and knitting books are great references that

RE: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

2013-05-12 Thread Lynda Ingraham
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 5:56 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare Why would you want to buy a book after you already read it? Andy -Original Message- From: Jane Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 2:40 PM To: viphone

Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

2013-05-12 Thread Jane
> Andy > > > -Original Message- From: Jane > Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 3:44 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare > > Because I like it enough to read, and read, and read again, of course. I &g

Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

2013-05-12 Thread Andy Baracco
Considering that I started with the Echo on the Apple 2E, just about any speech sounds good to me. Andy From: Courtney Curran Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 3:45 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare Hi, I often buy books, on

Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

2013-05-12 Thread Andy Baracco
ote: Why would you want to buy a book after you already read it? Andy -Original Message- From: Jane Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 2:40 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare Hi, Cara. As someone else pointed out, Booksha

Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

2013-05-12 Thread Courtney Curran
tion. The Nook, and >>> Google Books services will have some of them, but Amazon has the largest >>> number of eBooks. >>> >>> That having been written, as a blind reader, because I could not own books >>> at a reasonable price, I am very use to borrowing an

Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

2013-05-12 Thread Jane
Why would you want to buy a book after you already read it? > > Andy > > > -Original Message- From: Jane > Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 2:40 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare > > Hi, C

Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

2013-05-12 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
Cara: I just wanted to chime in and agree with Mary. Sighted people use books from the library, they also borrow books they can read on their Kindle. Bookshare in a sense is the same thing. Many of their books are provided by the publishers as well. If I can download a book from bookshare I will us

Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

2013-05-12 Thread Mary Otten
Hi Jane, Really, purchasing makes us look better? Does it also make sighted people look better? I have plenty of sighted friends who use the local library quite heavily. Yes, they buy some books, but almost never novels, which they read once and don't need to keep as reference material or to re

Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

2013-05-12 Thread Richard Ring
gt; Learning Ally, or any other legal source from which I can borrow and read >> books, before I buy them. >> >> Arnold Schmidt >> - Original Message - From: "Eileens Misrahi" >> >> To: >> Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 11:49 AM >>

Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

2013-05-12 Thread Mary Otten
Cara, Would you suggest that sighted people forego the use of the public library or other sources, such as a university library, if you happen to be lucky enough to have access to one, and buy all their books? Equality is great, but equality ought also to mean being able to avail oneself of all

Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

2013-05-12 Thread Andy Baracco
Why would you want to buy a book after you already read it? Andy -Original Message- From: Jane Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 2:40 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare Hi, Cara. As someone else pointed out, Bookshare

Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

2013-05-12 Thread Jane
> things for free. I have a blind friend who recently said that she just > doesn't pay for books, and can't understand why any blind person would. > > Andy > > > -Original Message- From: Cara Quinn > Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 2:28 PM > To: viphone@googlegr

Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

2013-05-12 Thread Cara Quinn
"Eileens Misrahi" > > To: > Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 11:49 AM > Subject: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare > > > Hello List, > > Besides the obvious of,Bookshare not having a particular book, what other > advantages does t

Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

2013-05-12 Thread Andy Baracco
ay, May 12, 2013 2:28 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare Might I propose an additional tach here? Now that we have a much greater accessibility to a vast library of books which we never had before, might it be a good idea to tak

Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

2013-05-12 Thread Jane
>> at a reasonable price, I am very use to borrowing and reading books, and >> until recently, returning them. So, I assure you, I check Bookshare, Bard, >> Learning Ally, or any other legal source from which I can borrow and read >> books, before I buy them. >> &

Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

2013-05-12 Thread Cara Quinn
any other legal source from which I can borrow and read > books, before I buy them. > > Arnold Schmidt > - Original Message - From: "Eileens Misrahi" > > To: > Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 11:49 AM > Subject: Justification for using Kindle vs. download

Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

2013-05-12 Thread Mary Otten
My experience thus far with Kindle magazines is excellent. I have used Zinio on the iPhone and also the Nook app on my iPad, and so far, I'd say the Kindle app is my favorite for magazine reading, with Nook second. The major difference is that with the Nook app, you have to go back to the table

Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

2013-05-12 Thread Sandy Finley
efore I buy them. > > Arnold Schmidt > - Original Message - From: "Eileens Misrahi" > > To: > Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 11:49 AM > Subject: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare > > > Hello List, > > Besides the obviou

Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

2013-05-12 Thread Mary Otten
I look at bookshare to see if something is available there prior to looking on things like the iBooks store, Nook and now Kindle. I see this as little different than a sighted person using the public library rather than buying the book. I agree about scans, but a lot of the bookshare collection

Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

2013-05-12 Thread Jane
ure you, I check Bookshare, Bard, >> Learning Ally, or any other legal source from which I can borrow and read >> books, before I buy them. >> >> Arnold Schmidt >> - Original Message - From: "Eileens Misrahi" >> >> To: >> Sent: Su

Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

2013-05-12 Thread Teresa Cochran
assure you, I check Bookshare, Bard, > Learning Ally, or any other legal source from which I can borrow and read > books, before I buy them. > > Arnold Schmidt > - Original Message - From: "Eileens Misrahi" > > To: > Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 11:4

Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

2013-05-12 Thread Jane
ssure you, I check Bookshare, Bard, > Learning Ally, or any other legal source from which I can borrow and read > books, before I buy them. > > Arnold Schmidt > - Original Message - From: "Eileens Misrahi" > > To: > Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013

Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

2013-05-12 Thread Arnold Schmidt
y 12, 2013 11:49 AM Subject: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare Hello List, Besides the obvious of,Bookshare not having a particular book, what other advantages does the Kindle app have over using Bookshare to access books? I will check Bookshare first to see if the b

Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

2013-05-12 Thread Jane
Well, you can highlight parts of books to share with people. You can also look up stuff in a dictionary in the app, or so I hear. You can leave reviews on Amazon without too much trouble. Plus, it supports authors, and it shows Amazon that we are glad for what they've done and that hopefully th

Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

2013-05-12 Thread Eileens Misrahi
Hello List, Besides the obvious of,Bookshare not having a particular book, what other advantages does the Kindle app have over using Bookshare to access books? I will check Bookshare first to see if the book that I want to read is there to download because of the ability to download the book f