Re: Bluetooth and MFI hearing aids.

[Max]

Hi,
the problem I have with bluetooth connected to the aids is there is so much 
background noise people can’t hear me very well. I mostly turn off bluetooth 
when I am out. this makes it very hard to call a taxi as I have to press button 
1 or 2 depending on what I want.
I can’t hear the button to press without the aids.
Max.

> On 25 Sep 2024, at 10:13, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> So much of the time, when I'm on the phone, people tell me
> I'm breaking up, even to the point that I changed from AT&T
> to Verizon to try to get better coverage. It probably is a
> little better, but still, people continue to say I'm
> breaking up. 
> 
> Somehow, it dawned on me, that maybe Bluetooth to my hearing
> aids was the problem, so today when on a call, I told the
> caller to let me switch it off, and it did give a clearer
> connection to her. 
> 
> I am so disappointed. It is so convenient to have Bluetooth
> on. 
> 
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RE: Phone not locking

[marilyn]

Hello all,
I used to have to activate my phone by typing in a code. Now suddenly the phone 
does not shut off. Please give me step by step instructions to get that setting 
back. It used to stay on for about 3 minutes if I had not touched it before 
shutting off. 
Many thanks. 
Marilyn   

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RE: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses and minuses

[Carolyn Arnold]

True enough, no way to get out of paying and one way or the other is right for 
sure.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2024 1:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses 
and minuses

Caroline, you can use your phone to death for everything whether you have an 
expensive plan or not. The fact is that carriers as a rule still ge ttheir 
money's worth and they are not giving you a brand new iPhone for half the 
price. Tjhey may make it sound that way, but believe me, if you add it all up 
you pay for it one way or another. 

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Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 5:17 PM
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Subject: RE: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses 
and minuses

Yeah, like my daughter-in-law lawst year this time - 15 Pro Max for $320.00. 
She has no problem with an expensive phone plan, because she uses her phone to 
death for everything. 

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Julian
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 6:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses 
and minuses

Hi Mary,

I always prefer to get my phones directly from Apple. Generally, it tends to be 
a lot less complicated. The only reason, at least in my opinion, to get a phone 
through your carrier is if your carrier is offering such a good deal That makes 
it worth the while.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2024, at 2:57 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> I’ve bought all my pfones through apple. I just told apple I was with 
> Verizon when I bought my iPhone 8 and 13 pro max and all was good. Now if you 
> get a new phone, you’ll have to have an esim card, but that shde no problem. 
> I’ll probably get my next phone through apple as well.
> Sent from Joshua’s radical chariot!!!
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:48 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi mary, I've purchased phones that are going to be connected to the 
>> carrier and I'm also purchased unlocked phones. However, any phones that 
>> I've purchased, from Apple directly, I have just done it all unlocked and 
>> either put in my Sim card or activated the eSIM. There's not really any 
>> parks other than if your phone has any value to it they'll put it towards 
>> the cost of the new one. I hope that explains everything.
>> 
>>>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:44 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all.
>>> I have always gotten my phones through my carrier. This present phone is 
>>> six years old, so it’s been a while. I had thought I might switch carriers 
>>> but I think we’re going to standpat with what we have on T-Mobile. But as 
>>> far as I can see, T-Mobile isn’t really offering me anything useful. I 
>>> would have to upgrade to their most expensive plan, which would be really 
>>> stupid in our case, since we don’t need or want any of the extras that we 
>>> would get. so the question: has anybody purchased a phone through Apple 
>>> that is going to be connected with your carrier once you get it? That is 
>>> not an unlocked phone. What’s that like as opposed to going through your 
>>> carrier? I figure that if I buy it through Apple, at least I can get 5% 
>>> back via my Apple card, which beats a blank when you’re talking about 1000 
>>> bucks or so.  Mary
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses and minuses

[Carolyn Arnold]

I bought my 11 from AT&T on a plan like that and also my 14 Pro. When the COVID 
stimulous came, I called AT&T and paid off the 11 free and clear. When I got my 
14 Pro, I had it for ten months, when I had to change to Verizon because of 
better coverage here, and it cost me $794 to pay it off, which I did. So now, 
the phone is all mine. I'm guessing that I came out somewhere in the middle, 
could have paid more or less each time. 

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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2024 1:28 PM
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Subject: RE: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses 
and minuses

And typically the really good offers from the carriers are for phones that are 
a year or two old; for the latest model you will in the end pay even if the 
cost is hidden in ane xpensive plan or an extra fee you pay for 24 months. 
People here sometimes don't think this through, they are told an iPhone 16 Gb 
128 Gb is $42.50 a months over 24 months which comes to $1,020, then they see 
the phone at Apple is $1,449 and they think they are saving $400. Then maybe  
the carrier gives them a couple of hundred for their old phone which they could 
sell for probably at least 50% more if they sold it privately and it's an even 
better deal. They don't consider that they either have to give the phone back 
after 2 years and again sign up for an expensiv e monthly charge for the next 
new phone or they are then surprised if they are charged a buy-out fee so they 
can keep the phone..

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Julian
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 3:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses 
and minuses

Hi Mary,

I always prefer to get my phones directly from Apple. Generally, it tends to be 
a lot less complicated. The only reason, at least in my opinion, to get a phone 
through your carrier is if your carrier is offering such a good deal That makes 
it worth the while.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2024, at 2:57 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> I’ve bought all my pfones through apple. I just told apple I was with 
> Verizon when I bought my iPhone 8 and 13 pro max and all was good. Now if you 
> get a new phone, you’ll have to have an esim card, but that shde no problem. 
> I’ll probably get my next phone through apple as well.
> Sent from Joshua’s radical chariot!!!
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:48 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi mary, I've purchased phones that are going to be connected to the 
>> carrier and I'm also purchased unlocked phones. However, any phones that 
>> I've purchased, from Apple directly, I have just done it all unlocked and 
>> either put in my Sim card or activated the eSIM. There's not really any 
>> parks other than if your phone has any value to it they'll put it towards 
>> the cost of the new one. I hope that explains everything.
>> 
>>>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:44 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all.
>>> I have always gotten my phones through my carrier. This present phone is 
>>> six years old, so it’s been a while. I had thought I might switch carriers 
>>> but I think we’re going to standpat with what we have on T-Mobile. But as 
>>> far as I can see, T-Mobile isn’t really offering me anything useful. I 
>>> would have to upgrade to their most expensive plan, which would be really 
>>> stupid in our case, since we don’t need or want any of the extras that we 
>>> would get. so the question: has anybody purchased a phone through Apple 
>>> that is going to be connected with your carrier once you get it? That is 
>>> not an unlocked phone. What’s that like as opposed to going through your 
>>> carrier? I figure that if I buy it through Apple, at least I can get 5% 
>>> back via my Apple card, which beats a blank when you’re talking about 1000 
>>> bucks or so.  Mary
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses and minuses

[Carolyn Arnold]

Good that you got that. When I was looking into Android, I thought that the 
Pixel was really good, so I hope people jump at your offer on them. 

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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2024 1:23 PM
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Subject: RE: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses 
and minuses

If you buy a phone from Apple, isn't it unlocked by default? For carriers to 
still lock phones is pretty antiquated and I just don't understand the 
reasoning. If you buy the phone on a contract where you pay a monthly amount 
for two years to pay the  phone off means you already have a contract so what's 
the point to lock the phone.
I am really glad that the CRTC here in Canada, I believe that is a little bit 
like the FCC in the US, has put an end to SIM locking and was already on 
December 1, 2017, so almost 7 years ago. I didn't want to buy a new iPhone 16 
or 16 Pro from my carrier here which is Telus, either. An iPhone 16 Pro 128 Gb 
would have cost me $42.50 a months for 24 months and then if I wanted to keep 
the phone after that, I would have had to pay a $470 buy-out fee. If you add 
that all up, it's $1,490 and I can buy a brand new iPhone 16 Pro 128 Gb at the 
Apple Store for $1,449 Canadian, $40 less than the Telus offer. Of course they 
say that I could pay monthly and all that, but if I add the monthly cost of the 
$470 buy-out fee over 24 months, it is just under $20 which means if I add this 
to the $42.50 monthly cost, I am paying a bit over $62 and that again is 
exactly the same as Apple's price if I buy the phone on a monthly plan from 
them except on the Apple Store site they are upfront about it and say that this 
means a 7.9% interest fee.
Anyways, after I was persistent about not wanting a new iPhone, the agent I 
spoke with said she could still offer me a new and better plan. I have a Telus 
business account with 4 phones on it and I pay $65 a month per phone which 
includes unlimited calling and texting in Canada and 55 Gb of 5G data. The new 
plan she told me was exactly the same $65, but it would include free calls and 
texts to Canada, the US and Mexico and data was 250 Gb and it also included 
1000 international minutes pretty much to any country in the world. It was of 
course not difficult to make the decision to upgrade to that plan and lock it 
in for 2 years, then she told me that I could also get a Google Pixel 8 128 Gb 
phone for free with that plan as well as a Telus Smart Hub I could, for 
example, use as backup should my fiber internet go down. I said that while I am 
not an Android user, I would of course not say no, and I expected to receive 1 
google Pixel 8 phone and the hub, instead yesterday I received my package and 
it included 4 Google Pixel 8 phones, one for each line on my plan, and the hub. 
When I checked online, these phones which are now last year's Pixel model with 
google having released the Pixel 9 this year, still go for $679 at Best Buy and 
I think Walmart had them for $655. I left all 4 phones in their boxes so they 
are entirely new and unopened and I will try to sell them for $550 assuming 
most people may offer me $500. But that is still $2,000 which is more than the 
iPhone 16 Pro 128 Gb I am looking to buy costs. All  in all I always read 
Canada has some of the highest costs for cell plans, but sometimes you also get 
an unexpected bonus.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joseph 
Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 2:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses 
and minuses

Hi mary, I've purchased phones that are going to be connected to the carrier 
and I'm also purchased unlocked phones. However, any phones that I've 
purchased, from Apple directly, I have just done it all unlocked and either put 
in my Sim card or activated the eSIM. There's not really any parks other than 
if your phone has any value to it they'll put it towards the cost of the new 
one. I hope that explains everything.

> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:44 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi all.
> I have always gotten my phones through my carrier. This present phone is six 
> years old, so it’s been a while. I had thought I might switch carriers but I 
> think we’re going to standpat with what we have on T-Mobile. But as far as I 
> can see, T-Mobile isn’t really offering me anything useful. I would have to 
> upgrade to their most expensive plan, which would be really stupid in our 
> case, since we don’t need or want any of the extras that we would get. so the 
> question: has anybody purchased a phone through Apple that is going to be 
> connected with your carrier once you get it? That is not an unlocked phone. 
> What’s that like as o

RE: Bluetooth and MFI hearing aids.

[Carolyn Arnold]

I can just trurn off Bluetooth, if I need to do that. 

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donmoor...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2024 10:31 AM
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Subject: RE: Bluetooth and MFI hearing aids.

There are adjustments they can make.  I usually wind up putting an old set of 
hearing aids on so the blue tooth doesn't kick in since apparently if you're 
wearing them, it's the primary connection.  I'm going to be looking at new 
phones this weekend, so I'll try to find out if that changes.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Eric 
Caron
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 9:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth and MFI hearing aids.

This may not be your hearing aids.

Using different bluetooth devices I’m told now and then I can’t be 
heard on a call.  Turning off bluetooth and talking on the phone directly fixes 
it.  The problem is not consistent on the bluetooth devices.  It happens often 
with my aftershocks. 

Usually my hearing aids do work with bluetooth on as long as other headsets are 
not connected.

Eric Caron 




> On Sep 24, 2024, at 8:39 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
> 
> Hey Carolyn, I think you might wanna make an audiology appointment and have 
> them look at this. Because the only thing I can think of, is that the 
> microphones are clogged up. This could be why they're breaking in and out.
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 7:13 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> So much of the time, when I'm on the phone, people tell me I'm 
>> breaking up, even to the point that I changed from AT&T to Verizon to 
>> try to get better coverage. It probably is a little better, but 
>> still, people continue to say I'm breaking up.
>> 
>> Somehow, it dawned on me, that maybe Bluetooth to my hearing aids was 
>> the problem, so today when on a call, I told the caller to let me 
>> switch it off, and it did give a clearer connection to her.
>> 
>> I am so disappointed. It is so convenient to have Bluetooth on.
>> 
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RE: Bluetooth and MFI hearing aids.

[Carolyn Arnold]

Definitely yesterday, when I disengaged Bluetooth, it cleared the connection. 
Good point about microphone. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Eric Caron
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 9:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth and MFI hearing aids.

This may not be your hearing aids.

Using different bluetooth devices I’m told now and then I can’t be 
heard on a call.  Turning off bluetooth and talking on the phone directly fixes 
it.  The problem is not consistent on the bluetooth devices.  It happens often 
with my aftershocks. 

Usually my hearing aids do work with bluetooth on as long as other headsets are 
not connected.

Eric Caron 




> On Sep 24, 2024, at 8:39 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
> 
> Hey Carolyn, I think you might wanna make an audiology appointment and have 
> them look at this. Because the only thing I can think of, is that the 
> microphones are clogged up. This could be why they're breaking in and out.
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 7:13 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> So much of the time, when I'm on the phone, people tell me I'm 
>> breaking up, even to the point that I changed from AT&T to Verizon to 
>> try to get better coverage. It probably is a little better, but 
>> still, people continue to say I'm breaking up.
>> 
>> Somehow, it dawned on me, that maybe Bluetooth to my hearing aids was 
>> the problem, so today when on a call, I told the caller to let me 
>> switch it off, and it did give a clearer connection to her.
>> 
>> I am so disappointed. It is so convenient to have Bluetooth on.
>> 
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RE: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses and minuses

[Carolyn Arnold]

That is encouraging, in case I ever want to change again. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Joseph Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 8:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses 
and minuses

Well, I guess I was lucky, because the two times I've had to switch numbers to 
a different carrier, it took maybe 30 minutes. And I've done this several times.

> On Sep 24, 2024, at 7:20 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> It is an ordeal to get a number transferred, if changing carriers. However, 
> when I did change to Verizon from AT&T, when AT&T realized that I'd moved to 
> a rural area, and that Verizon had fuller coverage here, they worked with me 
> and Verizon to port my number. It takes some time, like several days, or it 
> did in my case. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 6:26 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier 
> pluses and minuses
> 
> OK. So I can’t remember if this phone has an eSIM or not. It’s a 10 R. I 
> suppose the new ones have already in them, so the only question would be 
> getting my number changed over to that one from this one, and I have some 
> vague memory of some kind of online process you could do for that. I don’t 
> remember though. There’s no reason for me to go through the carrier, as this 
> 10 are isn’t going to be worth  very much of anything. 
> Better to keep it around as a spare, plus I still have barred books I need to 
> get off of here by reading them. I wish that bar books would be transferred 
> to your new phone when you get it, but they’re not. Or at least they weren’t 
> back in the day, and I assume they still are not. Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 3:21 PM, Julian  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mary,
>> 
>> I always prefer to get my phones directly from Apple. Generally, it tends to 
>> be a lot less complicated. The only reason, at least in my opinion, to get a 
>> phone through your carrier is if your carrier is offering such a good deal 
>> That makes it worth the while.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 2:57 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’ve bought all my pfones through apple. I just told apple I was with 
>>> Verizon when I bought my iPhone 8 and 13 pro max and all was good. Now if 
>>> you get a new phone, you’ll have to have an esim card, but that shde no 
>>> problem. I’ll probably get my next phone through apple as well.
>>> Sent from Joshua’s radical chariot!!!
>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:48 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi mary, I've purchased phones that are going to be connected to the 
>>>> carrier and I'm also purchased unlocked phones. However, any phones that 
>>>> I've purchased, from Apple directly, I have just done it all unlocked and 
>>>> either put in my Sim card or activated the eSIM. There's not really any 
>>>> parks other than if your phone has any value to it they'll put it towards 
>>>> the cost of the new one. I hope that explains everything.
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:44 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all.
>>>>> I have always gotten my phones through my carrier. This present phone is 
>>>>> six years old, so it’s been a while. I had thought I might switch 
>>>>> carriers but I think we’re going to standpat with what we have on 
>>>>> T-Mobile. But as far as I can see, T-Mobile isn’t really offering me 
>>>>> anything useful. I would have to upgrade to their most expensive plan, 
>>>>> which would be really stupid in our case, since we don’t need or want any 
>>>>> of the extras that we would get. so the question: has anybody purchased a 
>>>>> phone through Apple that is going to be connected with your carrier once 
>>>>> you get it? That is not an unlocked phone. What’s that like as opposed to 
>>>>> going through your carrier? I figure that if I buy it through Apple, at 
>>>>> least I can get 5% back via my Apple card, which beats a blank when 
>>>>> you’re talking about 1000 bucks or so.  Mary
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>

RE: Bluetooth and MFI hearing aids.

[Carolyn Arnold]

Good point. I( have an appointment in about three weeks. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Joseph Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 8:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth and MFI hearing aids.

Hey Carolyn, I think you might wanna make an audiology appointment and have 
them look at this. Because the only thing I can think of, is that the 
microphones are clogged up. This could be why they're breaking in and out.

> On Sep 24, 2024, at 7:13 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> So much of the time, when I'm on the phone, people tell me I'm 
> breaking up, even to the point that I changed from AT&T to Verizon to 
> try to get better coverage. It probably is a little better, but still, 
> people continue to say I'm breaking up.
> 
> Somehow, it dawned on me, that maybe Bluetooth to my hearing aids was 
> the problem, so today when on a call, I told the caller to let me 
> switch it off, and it did give a clearer connection to her.
> 
> I am so disappointed. It is so convenient to have Bluetooth on.
> 
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Re: what is your favorite vocal shortcut?

[Keith Kramlinger]

Is there a good tutorial on how to do this?
Also, am I correct that a shortcut must first be made in the usual manner, and 
then voice control be activated, and create the vocal shortcut from there? 
Thanks in advance. Keith


On Sep 25, 2024, at 12:01 PM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:



I have a shortcut that starts a voice chat with Chat GPT, so I made a voice 
shortcut that will automatically start it without having to use Siri.

I made some for volume up and down.  That way I can just say volume up or 
volume down, without having to use Siri, and it will do it.

There is many things that can be done, especially when ususing shortcuts.  It 
is basically a way of doing something without having to invoke Siri first.

Hope this helps.

Chris Chaffin

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On Sep 25, 2024, at 8:13 AM, dlmlao...@gmail.com wrote:


I was trying to create a vocal shortcut in iOS 18. I did not succeed, but I was 
also led to wonder how powerful the feature is really. What have people used 
vocal shortcuts for? Maybe this will both motivate me and give me an idea of 
what I can do with the feature. Generally, I’m always excited about the idea of 
any kind of shortcut, but then haven’t found anything I want to achieve with 
the feature.

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RE: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses and minuses

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Richard, it’s just a matter of time. I think maybe it’s simply because carriers 
here or in other countries are not yet fully set up and while Telus here in 
Canada does support eSIM, if you buy a new phone you have to get a new eSIM 
with a QR code from them because they don’t yet support the eSIM transfer. At 
least that was the case 2 years ago when I had an eSIM for my iPhone 11 and 
could not transfer it to my iPhone 13 Pro I bought from Telus at the time. I’d 
much rather have an eSIM than a SIM card.


From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2024 5:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses 
and minuses

I'm not surprised. Apparently, it is only the US that Apple decided should only 
use eSim.



Richard, USA
"INTROVERTS UNITE ...
SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

(sent from my iPhone 13 pro)



On Sep 25, 2024, at 3:01 AM, chrisjudge1...@gmail.com wrote:

The 15 pro I bought in Canada does have a drawer for a sim as well.

Chris Judge






From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
Sent: September 24, 2024 8:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses 
and minuses

The new phones in the Us have not had sim trays since the 13 series. I do not 
where things stand outside of the US with the 16's, but the 14 series had SIM 
cards in other countries.
In the US, all iPhones are now eSim.



Richard, USA
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SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
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(sent from my iPhone 13 pro)




On Sep 24, 2024, at 3:51 PM, 
chrisjudge1...@gmail.com<mailto:chrisjudge1...@gmail.com> wrote:
Can't you just remove the sim card from your old phone and slip it in the new 
one?

Chris Judge






-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: September 24, 2024 7:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses 
and minuses

I used to buy my phones at the local Apple Store and they would set you up with 
your carrier of choice, but now they just sell you the phone and you have to 
take it to your carrier to activate.

Andy


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 2:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses 
and minuses

I’ve bought all my pfones through apple. I just told apple I was with Verizon 
when I bought my iPhone 8 and 13 pro max and all was good. Now if you get a new 
phone, you’ll have to have an esim card, but that shde no problem. I’ll 
probably get my next phone through apple as well.
Sent from Joshua’s radical chariot!!!



On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:48 PM, Joseph Hudson 
mailto:jhud7...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Hi mary, I've purchased phones that are going to be connected to the carrier 
and I'm also purchased unlocked phones. However, any phones that I've 
purchased, from Apple directly, I have just done it all unlocked and either put 
in my Sim card or activated the eSIM. There's not really any parks other than 
if your phone has any value to it they'll put it towards the cost of the new 
one. I hope that explains everything.

On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:44 PM, Mary Otten 
mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi all.
I have always gotten my phones through my carrier. This present phone is six 
years old, so it’s been a while. I had thought I might switch carriers but I 
think we’re going to standpat with what we have on T-Mobile. But as far as I 
can see, T-Mobile isn’t really offering me anything useful. I would have to 
upgrade to their most expensive plan, which would be really stupid in our case, 
since we don’t need or want any of the extras that we would get. so the 
question: has anybody purchased a phone through Apple that is going to be 
connected with your carrier once you get it? That is not an unlocked phone. 
What’s that like as opposed to going through your carrier? I figure that if I 
buy it through Apple, at least I can get 5% back via my Apple card, which beats 
a blank when you’re talking about 1000 bucks or so.  Mary

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses and minuses

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Caroline, you can use your phone to death for everything whether you have an 
expensive plan or not. The fact is that carriers as a rule still ge ttheir 
money's worth and they are not giving you a brand new iPhone for half the 
price. Tjhey may make it sound that way, but believe me, if you add it all up 
you pay for it one way or another. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 5:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses 
and minuses

Yeah, like my daughter-in-law lawst year this time - 15 Pro Max for $320.00. 
She has no problem with an expensive phone plan, because she uses her phone to 
death for everything. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Julian
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 6:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses 
and minuses

Hi Mary,

I always prefer to get my phones directly from Apple. Generally, it tends to be 
a lot less complicated. The only reason, at least in my opinion, to get a phone 
through your carrier is if your carrier is offering such a good deal That makes 
it worth the while.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2024, at 2:57 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> I’ve bought all my pfones through apple. I just told apple I was with 
> Verizon when I bought my iPhone 8 and 13 pro max and all was good. Now if you 
> get a new phone, you’ll have to have an esim card, but that shde no problem. 
> I’ll probably get my next phone through apple as well.
> Sent from Joshua’s radical chariot!!!
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:48 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi mary, I've purchased phones that are going to be connected to the 
>> carrier and I'm also purchased unlocked phones. However, any phones that 
>> I've purchased, from Apple directly, I have just done it all unlocked and 
>> either put in my Sim card or activated the eSIM. There's not really any 
>> parks other than if your phone has any value to it they'll put it towards 
>> the cost of the new one. I hope that explains everything.
>> 
>>>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:44 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all.
>>> I have always gotten my phones through my carrier. This present phone is 
>>> six years old, so it’s been a while. I had thought I might switch carriers 
>>> but I think we’re going to standpat with what we have on T-Mobile. But as 
>>> far as I can see, T-Mobile isn’t really offering me anything useful. I 
>>> would have to upgrade to their most expensive plan, which would be really 
>>> stupid in our case, since we don’t need or want any of the extras that we 
>>> would get. so the question: has anybody purchased a phone through Apple 
>>> that is going to be connected with your carrier once you get it? That is 
>>> not an unlocked phone. What’s that like as opposed to going through your 
>>> carrier? I figure that if I buy it through Apple, at least I can get 5% 
>>> back via my Apple card, which beats a blank when you’re talking about 1000 
>>> bucks or so.  Mary
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses and minuses

[Sieghard Weitzel]

No more SIM trays on iPhones in the US.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
chrisjudge1...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 3:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses 
and minuses

Can't you just remove the sim card from your old phone and slip it in the new 
one?

Chris Judge






-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: September 24, 2024 7:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses 
and minuses

I used to buy my phones at the local Apple Store and they would set you up with 
your carrier of choice, but now they just sell you the phone and you have to 
take it to your carrier to activate.

Andy


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 2:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses 
and minuses

I’ve bought all my pfones through apple. I just told apple I was with Verizon 
when I bought my iPhone 8 and 13 pro max and all was good. Now if you get a new 
phone, you’ll have to have an esim card, but that shde no problem. I’ll 
probably get my next phone through apple as well.
Sent from Joshua’s radical chariot!!!

> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:48 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
> 
> Hi mary, I've purchased phones that are going to be connected to the carrier 
> and I'm also purchased unlocked phones. However, any phones that I've 
> purchased, from Apple directly, I have just done it all unlocked and either 
> put in my Sim card or activated the eSIM. There's not really any parks other 
> than if your phone has any value to it they'll put it towards the cost of the 
> new one. I hope that explains everything.
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:44 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all.
>> I have always gotten my phones through my carrier. This present phone is six 
>> years old, so it’s been a while. I had thought I might switch carriers but I 
>> think we’re going to standpat with what we have on T-Mobile. But as far as I 
>> can see, T-Mobile isn’t really offering me anything useful. I would have to 
>> upgrade to their most expensive plan, which would be really stupid in our 
>> case, since we don’t need or want any of the extras that we would get. so 
>> the question: has anybody purchased a phone through Apple that is going to 
>> be connected with your carrier once you get it? That is not an unlocked 
>> phone. What’s that like as opposed to going through your carrier? I figure 
>> that if I buy it through Apple, at least I can get 5% back via my Apple 
>> card, which beats a blank when you’re talking about 1000 bucks or so.  Mary
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses and minuses

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You only get a deal if  you buy last year's model, read my email abut the 
iPhone 16 Pro I inquired about with Telus, it would cost $40 more if I bought 
it from them and paid monthly and then paid the buy-out price compared to me 
just buying it out right from Apple.
The 4 free Google Pixel 8 phones the very friendly Filipina sales agent I spoke 
with offered me instead makes it even better, but that is also in my other 
email.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
mi...@eastlink.ca
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 3:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses 
and minuses

I have never baught a I phone from anyone other then my carrier since hear in 
Canada I have baught from my carrier because they will give you a discount on 
the phone under a 2 year contract. From Mich.

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From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone  
Sent: September 24, 2024 6:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses 
and minuses

FYI, all new iPhones in the United states come with eSim.  I don’t' think they 
even have a sim card tray, though I have not checked on the 16 pro.


Richard, USA
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 3:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses 
and minuses

OK. So I can’t remember if this phone has an eSIM or not. It’s a 10 R. I 
suppose the new ones have already in them, so the only question would be 
getting my number changed over to that one from this one, and I have some vague 
memory of some kind of online process you could do for that. I don’t remember 
though. There’s no reason for me to go through the carrier, as this 10 are 
isn’t going to be worth  very much of anything. 
 Better to keep it around as a spare, plus I still have barred books I need to 
get off of here by reading them. I wish that bar books would be transferred to 
your new phone when you get it, but they’re not. Or at least they weren’t back 
in the day, and I assume they still are not. Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2024, at 3:21 PM, Julian  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
> 
> I always prefer to get my phones directly from Apple. Generally, it tends to 
> be a lot less complicated. The only reason, at least in my opinion, to get a 
> phone through your carrier is if your carrier is offering such a good deal 
> That makes it worth the while.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 2:57 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>> 
>> I’ve bought all my pfones through apple. I just told apple I was with 
>> Verizon when I bought my iPhone 8 and 13 pro max and all was good. Now if 
>> you get a new phone, you’ll have to have an esim card, but that shde no 
>> problem. I’ll probably get my next phone through apple as well.
>> Sent from Joshua’s radical chariot!!!
>> 
>>>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:48 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi mary, I've purchased phones that are going to be connected to the 
>>> carrier and I'm also purchased unlocked phones. However, any phones that 
>>> I've purchased, from Apple directly, I have just done it all unlocked and 
>>> either put in my Sim card or activated the eSIM. There's not really any 
>>> parks other than if your phone has any value to it they'll put it towards 
>>> the cost of the new one. I hope that explains everything.
>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:44 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all.
>>>> I have always gotten my phones through my carrier. This present phone is 
>>>> six years old, so it’s been a while. I had thought I might switch carriers 
>>>> but I think we’re going to standpat with what we have on T-Mobile. But as 
>>>> far as I can see, T-Mobile isn’t really offering me anything useful. I 
>>>> would have to upgrade to their most expensive plan, which would be really 
>>>> stupid in our case, since we don’t need or want any of the extras that we 
>>>> would get. so the question: has anybody purchased a phone through Apple 
>>>> that is going to be connected with your carrier once you get it? That is 
>>>> not an unlocked phone. What’s that like as opposed to going through your 
>>>> carrier? I figure that if I buy it through Apple, at least I can get 5% 
>>>> back via my Apple card, which beats a blank when you

RE: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses and minuses

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Correct, I just checked and physical SIM trays were discontinued in the US with 
the iPhone 14 family. It is of course just a matter of time until they also go 
away in Canada and other countries where all iPhones sold including this year's 
iPhone 16 family phones still have a physical SIM tray. As far as I am 
concerned it's a good thing, too, as long as carriers make it easy to get an 
eSIM and for said eSIM to be transferred to a new phone if you upgrade, it 
makes total sense. Think of all the garbage of Billions of SIM cards, actually 
world wide say in the last 10 years were are not talking Billions but hundreds 
of Billions. It may not be such a big thing here to get a new SIM, but I know 
from the Philippines that people there constantly change carriers or numbers 
and buy a new sIM card which over there costs $1 Canadian, so around 73 Cents 
USD right now. This is no different in many other countries in asia like India, 
Indonesia and probably also in China so here we have almost half the world's 
population already in those 3 countries and I wouldn't be surprised if you see 
similar behaviour in most of Africa and South and Central America.

-Original Message-
From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone  
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 3:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses 
and minuses

FYI, all new iPhones in the United states come with eSim.  I don’t' think they 
even have a sim card tray, though I have not checked on the 16 pro.


Richard, USA
"INTROVERTS UNITE ... 
SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 3:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses 
and minuses

OK. So I can’t remember if this phone has an eSIM or not. It’s a 10 R. I 
suppose the new ones have already in them, so the only question would be 
getting my number changed over to that one from this one, and I have some vague 
memory of some kind of online process you could do for that. I don’t remember 
though. There’s no reason for me to go through the carrier, as this 10 are 
isn’t going to be worth  very much of anything. 
 Better to keep it around as a spare, plus I still have barred books I need to 
get off of here by reading them. I wish that bar books would be transferred to 
your new phone when you get it, but they’re not. Or at least they weren’t back 
in the day, and I assume they still are not. Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2024, at 3:21 PM, Julian  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
> 
> I always prefer to get my phones directly from Apple. Generally, it tends to 
> be a lot less complicated. The only reason, at least in my opinion, to get a 
> phone through your carrier is if your carrier is offering such a good deal 
> That makes it worth the while.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 2:57 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>> 
>> I’ve bought all my pfones through apple. I just told apple I was with 
>> Verizon when I bought my iPhone 8 and 13 pro max and all was good. Now if 
>> you get a new phone, you’ll have to have an esim card, but that shde no 
>> problem. I’ll probably get my next phone through apple as well.
>> Sent from Joshua’s radical chariot!!!
>> 
>>>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:48 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi mary, I've purchased phones that are going to be connected to the 
>>> carrier and I'm also purchased unlocked phones. However, any phones that 
>>> I've purchased, from Apple directly, I have just done it all unlocked and 
>>> either put in my Sim card or activated the eSIM. There's not really any 
>>> parks other than if your phone has any value to it they'll put it towards 
>>> the cost of the new one. I hope that explains everything.
>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:44 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all.
>>>> I have always gotten my phones through my carrier. This present phone is 
>>>> six years old, so it’s been a while. I had thought I might switch carriers 
>>>> but I think we’re going to standpat with what we have on T-Mobile. But as 
>>>> far as I can see, T-Mobile isn’t really offering me anything useful. I 
>>>> would have to upgrade to their most expensive plan, which would be really 
>>>> stupid in our case, since we don’t need or want any of the extras that we 
>>>> would get. so the question: has anybody purchased a phone through Apple 
>>>> that is going to be co

RE: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses and minuses

[Dennis Long]

Visible offers you a nice deal.  If you get financed through Affirm you can pay 
off 50% and they will pay off the other 50% off.  Of course you have to send it 
back to them.  Then your old phone goes back to them.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 9:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses 
and minuses

Hi:
I purchase directly from Apple. If it is one of the big 4 no issues. Haven't 
done it with Visible yet.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 4:45 PM
To: VIPhone via 
Subject: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses and 
minuses

Hi all.
I have always gotten my phones through my carrier. This present phone is six 
years old, so it’s been a while. I had thought I might switch carriers but I 
think we’re going to standpat with what we have on T-Mobile. But as far as I 
can see, T-Mobile isn’t really offering me anything useful. I would have to 
upgrade to their most expensive plan, which would be really stupid in our case, 
since we don’t need or want any of the extras that we would get. so the 
question: has anybody purchased a phone through Apple that is going to be 
connected with your carrier once you get it? That is not an unlocked phone. 
What’s that like as opposed to going through your carrier? I figure that if I 
buy it through Apple, at least I can get 5% back via my Apple card, which beats 
a blank when you’re talking about 1000 bucks or so.  Mary

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses and minuses

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Your XR does support eSIM, but most likely has a Nano SIM card. All new iPhones 
in the US since I think the iPhone 15 or maybe even the iPhone 14 only support 
eSIM and there is no longer a SIM tray at all.
I haven't yet confirmed if the iPhone 16 phones in Canada have entirely gone to 
eSIM, until last year all iPhones here still had a SIM tray.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 3:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses 
and minuses

OK. So I can’t remember if this phone has an eSIM or not. It’s a 10 R. I 
suppose the new ones have already in them, so the only question would be 
getting my number changed over to that one from this one, and I have some vague 
memory of some kind of online process you could do for that. I don’t remember 
though. There’s no reason for me to go through the carrier, as this 10 are 
isn’t going to be worth  very much of anything. 
 Better to keep it around as a spare, plus I still have barred books I need to 
get off of here by reading them. I wish that bar books would be transferred to 
your new phone when you get it, but they’re not. Or at least they weren’t back 
in the day, and I assume they still are not. Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2024, at 3:21 PM, Julian  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
> 
> I always prefer to get my phones directly from Apple. Generally, it tends to 
> be a lot less complicated. The only reason, at least in my opinion, to get a 
> phone through your carrier is if your carrier is offering such a good deal 
> That makes it worth the while.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 2:57 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>> 
>> I’ve bought all my pfones through apple. I just told apple I was with 
>> Verizon when I bought my iPhone 8 and 13 pro max and all was good. Now if 
>> you get a new phone, you’ll have to have an esim card, but that shde no 
>> problem. I’ll probably get my next phone through apple as well.
>> Sent from Joshua’s radical chariot!!!
>> 
>>>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:48 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi mary, I've purchased phones that are going to be connected to the 
>>> carrier and I'm also purchased unlocked phones. However, any phones that 
>>> I've purchased, from Apple directly, I have just done it all unlocked and 
>>> either put in my Sim card or activated the eSIM. There's not really any 
>>> parks other than if your phone has any value to it they'll put it towards 
>>> the cost of the new one. I hope that explains everything.
>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:44 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all.
>>>> I have always gotten my phones through my carrier. This present phone is 
>>>> six years old, so it’s been a while. I had thought I might switch carriers 
>>>> but I think we’re going to standpat with what we have on T-Mobile. But as 
>>>> far as I can see, T-Mobile isn’t really offering me anything useful. I 
>>>> would have to upgrade to their most expensive plan, which would be really 
>>>> stupid in our case, since we don’t need or want any of the extras that we 
>>>> would get. so the question: has anybody purchased a phone through Apple 
>>>> that is going to be connected with your carrier once you get it? That is 
>>>> not an unlocked phone. What’s that like as opposed to going through your 
>>>> carrier? I figure that if I buy it through Apple, at least I can get 5% 
>>>> back via my Apple card, which beats a blank when you’re talking about 1000 
>>>> bucks or so.  Mary
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses and minuses

[Joseph Hudson]

If you buy the phone from Apple, and you select the carrier, and automatically 
gets locked to that carrier. No cares that this does not apply to you, or 
Spectrum and consumer, cellular and other small carriers in the like. You have 
to buy unlocked phones in order to select those carriers. I hope this answers 
you

> On Sep 25, 2024, at 12:23 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> If you buy a phone from Apple, isn't it unlocked by default? For carriers to 
> still lock phones is pretty antiquated and I just don't understand the 
> reasoning. If you buy the phone on a contract where you pay a monthly amount 
> for two years to pay the  phone off means you already have a contract so 
> what's the point to lock the phone.
> I am really glad that the CRTC here in Canada, I believe that is a little bit 
> like the FCC in the US, has put an end to SIM locking and was already on 
> December 1, 2017, so almost 7 years ago. I didn't want to buy a new iPhone 16 
> or 16 Pro from my carrier here which is Telus, either. An iPhone 16 Pro 128 
> Gb would have cost me $42.50 a months for 24 months and then if I wanted to 
> keep the phone after that, I would have had to pay a $470 buy-out fee. If you 
> add that all up, it's $1,490 and I can buy a brand new iPhone 16 Pro 128 Gb 
> at the Apple Store for $1,449 Canadian, $40 less than the Telus offer. Of 
> course they say that I could pay monthly and all that, but if I add the 
> monthly cost of the $470 buy-out fee over 24 months, it is just under $20 
> which means if I add this to the $42.50 monthly cost, I am paying a bit over 
> $62 and that again is exactly the same as Apple's price if I buy the phone on 
> a monthly plan from them except on the Apple Store site they are upfront 
> about it and say that this means a 7.9% interest fee.
> Anyways, after I was persistent about not wanting a new iPhone, the agent I 
> spoke with said she could still offer me a new and better plan. I have a 
> Telus business account with 4 phones on it and I pay $65 a month per phone 
> which includes unlimited calling and texting in Canada and 55 Gb of 5G data. 
> The new plan she told me was exactly the same $65, but it would include free 
> calls and texts to Canada, the US and Mexico and data was 250 Gb and it also 
> included 1000 international minutes pretty much to any country in the world. 
> It was of course not difficult to make the decision to upgrade to that plan 
> and lock it in for 2 years, then she told me that I could also get a Google 
> Pixel 8 128 Gb phone for free with that plan as well as a Telus Smart Hub I 
> could, for example, use as backup should my fiber internet go down. I said 
> that while I am not an Android user, I would of course not say no, and I 
> expected to receive 1 google Pixel 8 phone and the hub, instead yesterday I 
> received my package and it included 4 Google Pixel 8 phones, one for each 
> line on my plan, and the hub. When I checked online, these phones which are 
> now last year's Pixel model with google having released the Pixel 9 this 
> year, still go for $679 at Best Buy and I think Walmart had them for $655. I 
> left all 4 phones in their boxes so they are entirely new and unopened and I 
> will try to sell them for $550 assuming most people may offer me $500. But 
> that is still $2,000 which is more than the iPhone 16 Pro 128 Gb I am looking 
> to buy costs. All  in all I always read Canada has some of the highest costs 
> for cell plans, but sometimes you also get an unexpected bonus.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joseph 
> Hudson
> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 2:48 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier 
> pluses and minuses
> 
> Hi mary, I've purchased phones that are going to be connected to the carrier 
> and I'm also purchased unlocked phones. However, any phones that I've 
> purchased, from Apple directly, I have just done it all unlocked and either 
> put in my Sim card or activated the eSIM. There's not really any parks other 
> than if your phone has any value to it they'll put it towards the cost of the 
> new one. I hope that explains everything.
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:44 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all.
>> I have always gotten my phones through my carrier. This present phone is six 
>> years old, so it’s been a while. I had thought I might switch carriers but I 
>> think we’re going to standpat with what we have on T-Mobile. But as far as I 
>> can see, T-Mobile isn’t really offering me anything useful. I would have to 
>> upgrade to their most expensive plan, which would be really stupid in our 
>>

RE: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses and minuses

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And typically the really good offers from the carriers are for phones that are 
a year or two old; for the latest model you will in the end pay even if the 
cost is hidden in ane xpensive plan or an extra fee you pay for 24 months. 
People here sometimes don't think this through, they are told an iPhone 16 Gb 
128 Gb is $42.50 a months over 24 months which comes to $1,020, then they see 
the phone at Apple is $1,449 and they think they are saving $400. Then maybe  
the carrier gives them a couple of hundred for their old phone which they could 
sell for probably at least 50% more if they sold it privately and it's an even 
better deal. They don't consider that they either have to give the phone back 
after 2 years and again sign up for an expensiv e monthly charge for the next 
new phone or they are then surprised if they are charged a buy-out fee so they 
can keep the phone..

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Julian
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 3:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses 
and minuses

Hi Mary,

I always prefer to get my phones directly from Apple. Generally, it tends to be 
a lot less complicated. The only reason, at least in my opinion, to get a phone 
through your carrier is if your carrier is offering such a good deal That makes 
it worth the while.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2024, at 2:57 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> I’ve bought all my pfones through apple. I just told apple I was with 
> Verizon when I bought my iPhone 8 and 13 pro max and all was good. Now if you 
> get a new phone, you’ll have to have an esim card, but that shde no problem. 
> I’ll probably get my next phone through apple as well.
> Sent from Joshua’s radical chariot!!!
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:48 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi mary, I've purchased phones that are going to be connected to the 
>> carrier and I'm also purchased unlocked phones. However, any phones that 
>> I've purchased, from Apple directly, I have just done it all unlocked and 
>> either put in my Sim card or activated the eSIM. There's not really any 
>> parks other than if your phone has any value to it they'll put it towards 
>> the cost of the new one. I hope that explains everything.
>> 
>>>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:44 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all.
>>> I have always gotten my phones through my carrier. This present phone is 
>>> six years old, so it’s been a while. I had thought I might switch carriers 
>>> but I think we’re going to standpat with what we have on T-Mobile. But as 
>>> far as I can see, T-Mobile isn’t really offering me anything useful. I 
>>> would have to upgrade to their most expensive plan, which would be really 
>>> stupid in our case, since we don’t need or want any of the extras that we 
>>> would get. so the question: has anybody purchased a phone through Apple 
>>> that is going to be connected with your carrier once you get it? That is 
>>> not an unlocked phone. What’s that like as opposed to going through your 
>>> carrier? I figure that if I buy it through Apple, at least I can get 5% 
>>> back via my Apple card, which beats a blank when you’re talking about 1000 
>>> bucks or so.  Mary
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
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RE: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses and minuses

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If you buy a phone from Apple, isn't it unlocked by default? For carriers to 
still lock phones is pretty antiquated and I just don't understand the 
reasoning. If you buy the phone on a contract where you pay a monthly amount 
for two years to pay the  phone off means you already have a contract so what's 
the point to lock the phone.
I am really glad that the CRTC here in Canada, I believe that is a little bit 
like the FCC in the US, has put an end to SIM locking and was already on 
December 1, 2017, so almost 7 years ago. I didn't want to buy a new iPhone 16 
or 16 Pro from my carrier here which is Telus, either. An iPhone 16 Pro 128 Gb 
would have cost me $42.50 a months for 24 months and then if I wanted to keep 
the phone after that, I would have had to pay a $470 buy-out fee. If you add 
that all up, it's $1,490 and I can buy a brand new iPhone 16 Pro 128 Gb at the 
Apple Store for $1,449 Canadian, $40 less than the Telus offer. Of course they 
say that I could pay monthly and all that, but if I add the monthly cost of the 
$470 buy-out fee over 24 months, it is just under $20 which means if I add this 
to the $42.50 monthly cost, I am paying a bit over $62 and that again is 
exactly the same as Apple's price if I buy the phone on a monthly plan from 
them except on the Apple Store site they are upfront about it and say that this 
means a 7.9% interest fee.
Anyways, after I was persistent about not wanting a new iPhone, the agent I 
spoke with said she could still offer me a new and better plan. I have a Telus 
business account with 4 phones on it and I pay $65 a month per phone which 
includes unlimited calling and texting in Canada and 55 Gb of 5G data. The new 
plan she told me was exactly the same $65, but it would include free calls and 
texts to Canada, the US and Mexico and data was 250 Gb and it also included 
1000 international minutes pretty much to any country in the world. It was of 
course not difficult to make the decision to upgrade to that plan and lock it 
in for 2 years, then she told me that I could also get a Google Pixel 8 128 Gb 
phone for free with that plan as well as a Telus Smart Hub I could, for 
example, use as backup should my fiber internet go down. I said that while I am 
not an Android user, I would of course not say no, and I expected to receive 1 
google Pixel 8 phone and the hub, instead yesterday I received my package and 
it included 4 Google Pixel 8 phones, one for each line on my plan, and the hub. 
When I checked online, these phones which are now last year's Pixel model with 
google having released the Pixel 9 this year, still go for $679 at Best Buy and 
I think Walmart had them for $655. I left all 4 phones in their boxes so they 
are entirely new and unopened and I will try to sell them for $550 assuming 
most people may offer me $500. But that is still $2,000 which is more than the 
iPhone 16 Pro 128 Gb I am looking to buy costs. All  in all I always read 
Canada has some of the highest costs for cell plans, but sometimes you also get 
an unexpected bonus.

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Subject: Re: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses 
and minuses

Hi mary, I've purchased phones that are going to be connected to the carrier 
and I'm also purchased unlocked phones. However, any phones that I've 
purchased, from Apple directly, I have just done it all unlocked and either put 
in my Sim card or activated the eSIM. There's not really any parks other than 
if your phone has any value to it they'll put it towards the cost of the new 
one. I hope that explains everything.

> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:44 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi all.
> I have always gotten my phones through my carrier. This present phone is six 
> years old, so it’s been a while. I had thought I might switch carriers but I 
> think we’re going to standpat with what we have on T-Mobile. But as far as I 
> can see, T-Mobile isn’t really offering me anything useful. I would have to 
> upgrade to their most expensive plan, which would be really stupid in our 
> case, since we don’t need or want any of the extras that we would get. so the 
> question: has anybody purchased a phone through Apple that is going to be 
> connected with your carrier once you get it? That is not an unlocked phone. 
> What’s that like as opposed to going through your carrier? I figure that if I 
> buy it through Apple, at least I can get 5% back via my Apple card, which 
> beats a blank when you’re talking about 1000 bucks or so.  Mary
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Re: what is your favorite vocal shortcut?

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I have a shortcut that starts a voice chat with Chat GPT, so I made a voice shortcut that will automatically start it without having to use Siri.I made some for volume up and down.  That way I can just say volume up or volume down, without having to use Siri, and it will do it.There is many things that can be done, especially when ususing shortcuts.  It is basically a way of doing something without having to invoke Siri first.Hope this helps.Chris ChaffinFollow me on Mastodon:@chrischaffin@dragonscave.spaceOn Sep 25, 2024, at 8:13 AM, dlmlao...@gmail.com wrote:I was trying to create a vocal shortcut in iOS 18. I did not succeed, but I was also led to wonder how powerful the feature is really. What have people used vocal shortcuts for? Maybe this will both motivate me and give me an idea of what I can do with the feature. Generally, I’m always excited about the idea of any kind of shortcut, but then haven’t found anything I want to achieve with the feature. 



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RE: Bluetooth and MFI hearing aids.

[donmoore48]

There are adjustments they can make.  I usually wind up putting an old set of 
hearing aids on so the blue tooth doesn't kick in since apparently if you're 
wearing them, it's the primary connection.  I'm going to be looking at new 
phones this weekend, so I'll try to find out if that changes.

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Caron
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 9:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth and MFI hearing aids.

This may not be your hearing aids.

Using different bluetooth devices I’m told now and then I can’t be 
heard on a call.  Turning off bluetooth and talking on the phone directly fixes 
it.  The problem is not consistent on the bluetooth devices.  It happens often 
with my aftershocks. 

Usually my hearing aids do work with bluetooth on as long as other headsets are 
not connected.

Eric Caron 




> On Sep 24, 2024, at 8:39 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
> 
> Hey Carolyn, I think you might wanna make an audiology appointment and have 
> them look at this. Because the only thing I can think of, is that the 
> microphones are clogged up. This could be why they're breaking in and out.
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 7:13 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> So much of the time, when I'm on the phone, people tell me I'm 
>> breaking up, even to the point that I changed from AT&T to Verizon to 
>> try to get better coverage. It probably is a little better, but 
>> still, people continue to say I'm breaking up.
>> 
>> Somehow, it dawned on me, that maybe Bluetooth to my hearing aids was 
>> the problem, so today when on a call, I told the caller to let me 
>> switch it off, and it did give a clearer connection to her.
>> 
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RE: SiriusXM Has Done It Again

[chaffin102468]

I have not had any issues listening to NFL games on SiriusXM.  Maybe you are 
thinking of TuneIn?
The best way of navigating and using the SiriusXM app is adding any channels or 
shows to your library.  This is basically like your favorites.  That is what I 
do.
Then, I just go to the library tab, choose what I want to listen to and double 
tap it.

If you need any further help, let me know.

Chris


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kenny 
Nead
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2024 9:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: SiriusXM Has Done It Again

Hi Chris, Are all the NFL games on it this year, at the end of the season of 
last year they stopped broadcasting them, wondering if they got it worked out 
with the NFL?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chris 
Chaffin
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 8:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: SiriusXM Has Done It Again

Hi,

I use the SiriusXM app on my iPhone every day.  I will do my best to help you 
out.  What exactly are you trying to do?

Chris Chaffin

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> On Sep 24, 2024, at 9:20 PM, Ron Canazzi  wrote:
> 
> Hi Group,
> 
> A few weeks ago, I received my SiriuisXM update again. The one in 2023, broke 
> easy accessibility, but someone on this list gave instructions as to how to 
> clumsily use it. Now this method no longer works. Is anyone able to figure 
> out a better way to navigate this app since it's recent update?
> 
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> 
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Re: SiriusXM Has Done It Again

['Amy ruell' via VIPhone]

I have used SiriusXM without difficulty this year and have access several NFL 
games.
Amy
Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 25, 2024, at 10:09 AM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> I had no issues with NFL games through the playoffs last year.
> 
> 
> Richard, USA
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kenny 
> Nead
> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2024 6:44 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: SiriusXM Has Done It Again
> 
> Hi Chris, Are all the NFL games on it this year, at the end of the season of 
> last year they stopped broadcasting them, wondering if they got it worked out 
> with the NFL?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chris 
> Chaffin
> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 8:32 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: SiriusXM Has Done It Again
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I use the SiriusXM app on my iPhone every day.  I will do my best to help you 
> out.  What exactly are you trying to do?
> 
> Chris Chaffin
> 
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> 
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 9:20 PM, Ron Canazzi  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Group,
>> 
>> A few weeks ago, I received my SiriuisXM update again. The one in 2023, 
>> broke easy accessibility, but someone on this list gave instructions as to 
>> how to clumsily use it. Now this method no longer works. Is anyone able to 
>> figure out a better way to navigate this app since it's recent update?
>> 
>> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> 
>> --
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RE: SiriusXM Has Done It Again

['Richard Turner' via VIPhone]

I had no issues with NFL games through the playoffs last year.


Richard, USA
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SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kenny 
Nead
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2024 6:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: SiriusXM Has Done It Again

Hi Chris, Are all the NFL games on it this year, at the end of the season of 
last year they stopped broadcasting them, wondering if they got it worked out 
with the NFL?

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chris 
Chaffin
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 8:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: SiriusXM Has Done It Again

Hi,

I use the SiriusXM app on my iPhone every day.  I will do my best to help you 
out.  What exactly are you trying to do?

Chris Chaffin

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> On Sep 24, 2024, at 9:20 PM, Ron Canazzi  wrote:
> 
> Hi Group,
> 
> A few weeks ago, I received my SiriuisXM update again. The one in 2023, broke 
> easy accessibility, but someone on this list gave instructions as to how to 
> clumsily use it. Now this method no longer works. Is anyone able to figure 
> out a better way to navigate this app since it's recent update?
> 
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> 
> --
> Signature:
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RE: SiriusXM Has Done It Again

[Kenny Nead]

Hi Chris, Are all the NFL games on it this year, at the end of the season of 
last year they stopped broadcasting them, wondering if they got it worked out 
with the NFL?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chris 
Chaffin
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 8:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: SiriusXM Has Done It Again

Hi,

I use the SiriusXM app on my iPhone every day.  I will do my best to help you 
out.  What exactly are you trying to do?

Chris Chaffin

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> On Sep 24, 2024, at 9:20 PM, Ron Canazzi  wrote:
> 
> Hi Group,
> 
> A few weeks ago, I received my SiriuisXM update again. The one in 2023, broke 
> easy accessibility, but someone on this list gave instructions as to how to 
> clumsily use it. Now this method no longer works. Is anyone able to figure 
> out a better way to navigate this app since it's recent update?
> 
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> 
> --
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Re: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses and minuses

['Richard Turner' via VIPhone]

I'm not surprised. Apparently, it is only the US that Apple decided should only use eSim.Richard, USA"INTROVERTS UNITE ...SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raisedMy web site: https://www.turner42.com(sent from my iPhone 13 pro) On Sep 25, 2024, at 3:01 AM, chrisjudge1...@gmail.com wrote:The 15 pro I bought in Canada does have a drawer for a sim as well. Chris JudgeFrom: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone  Sent: September 24, 2024 8:24 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses and minuses The new phones in the Us have not had sim trays since the 13 series. I do not where things stand outside of the US with the 16's, but the 14 series had SIM cards in other countries. In the US, all iPhones are now eSim.   Richard, USA"INTROVERTS UNITE ...SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised My web site: https://www.turner42.com (sent from my iPhone 13 pro)  On Sep 24, 2024, at 3:51 PM, chrisjudge1...@gmail.com wrote:Can't you just remove the sim card from your old phone and slip it in the new one?Chris Judge-Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Andy BaraccoSent: September 24, 2024 7:22 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses and minusesI used to buy my phones at the local Apple Store and they would set you up with your carrier of choice, but now they just sell you the phone and you have to take it to your carrier to activate.Andy-Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Joshua HendricksonSent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 2:58 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses and minusesI’ve bought all my pfones through apple. I just told apple I was with Verizon when I bought my iPhone 8 and 13 pro max and all was good. Now if you get a new phone, you’ll have to have an esim card, but that shde no problem. I’ll probably get my next phone through apple as well.Sent from Joshua’s radical chariot!!!On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:48 PM, Joseph Hudson <jhud7...@outlook.com> wrote: Hi mary, I've purchased phones that are going to be connected to the carrier and I'm also purchased unlocked phones. However, any phones that I've purchased, from Apple directly, I have just done it all unlocked and either put in my Sim card or activated the eSIM. There's not really any parks other than if your phone has any value to it they'll put it towards the cost of the new one. I hope that explains everything. On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:44 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote: Hi all.I have always gotten my phones through my carrier. This present phone is six years old, so it’s been a while. I had thought I might switch carriers but I think we’re going to standpat with what we have on T-Mobile. But as far as I can see, T-Mobile isn’t really offering me anything useful. I would have to upgrade to their most expensive plan, which would be really stupid in our case, since we don’t need or want any of the extras that we would get. so the question: has anybody purchased a phone through Apple that is going to be connected with your carrier once you get it? That is not an unlocked phone. What’s that like as opposed to going through your carrier? I figure that if I buy it through Apple, at least I can get 5% back via my Apple card, which beats a blank when you’re talking about 1000 bucks or so.  Mary Sent from my iPhone --The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/---You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/5356691D-87E9-400F-A2BC-F5E894750DCD%40gmail.com. --The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk

RE: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses and minuses

[chrisjudge1967]

The 15 pro I bought in Canada does have a drawer for a sim as well.

 

Chris Judge

 



 

 



 

From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone  
Sent: September 24, 2024 8:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses 
and minuses

 

The new phones in the Us have not had sim trays since the 13 series. I do not 
where things stand outside of the US with the 16's, but the 14 series had SIM 
cards in other countries. 

In the US, all iPhones are now eSim.

 

 

 

Richard, USA

"INTROVERTS UNITE ...

SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"

-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

(sent from my iPhone 13 pro) 

 





On Sep 24, 2024, at 3:51 PM, chrisjudge1...@gmail.com 
<mailto:chrisjudge1...@gmail.com>  wrote:

Can't you just remove the sim card from your old phone and slip it in the new 
one?

Chris Judge






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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: September 24, 2024 7:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses 
and minuses

I used to buy my phones at the local Apple Store and they would set you up with 
your carrier of choice, but now they just sell you the phone and you have to 
take it to your carrier to activate.

Andy


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 2:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses 
and minuses

I’ve bought all my pfones through apple. I just told apple I was with Verizon 
when I bought my iPhone 8 and 13 pro max and all was good. Now if you get a new 
phone, you’ll have to have an esim card, but that shde no problem. I’ll 
probably get my next phone through apple as well.
Sent from Joshua’s radical chariot!!!




On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:48 PM, Joseph Hudson mailto:jhud7...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

Hi mary, I've purchased phones that are going to be connected to the carrier 
and I'm also purchased unlocked phones. However, any phones that I've 
purchased, from Apple directly, I have just done it all unlocked and either put 
in my Sim card or activated the eSIM. There's not really any parks other than 
if your phone has any value to it they'll put it towards the cost of the new 
one. I hope that explains everything.

 

On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:44 PM, Mary Otten mailto:motte...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi all.

I have always gotten my phones through my carrier. This present phone is six 
years old, so it’s been a while. I had thought I might switch carriers but I 
think we’re going to standpat with what we have on T-Mobile. But as far as I 
can see, T-Mobile isn’t really offering me anything useful. I would have to 
upgrade to their most expensive plan, which would be really stupid in our case, 
since we don’t need or want any of the extras that we would get. so the 
question: has anybody purchased a phone through Apple that is going to be 
connected with your carrier once you get it? That is not an unlocked phone. 
What’s that like as opposed to going through your carrier? I figure that if I 
buy it through Apple, at least I can get 5% back via my Apple card, which beats 
a blank when you’re talking about 1000 bucks or so.  Mary

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

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Re: Sound of iPhone speakers

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I always use bluetooth speakers with my iPhone. The speakers on my 13 pro max are pretty good.Sent from Joshua’s radical chariot!!!On Sep 24, 2024, at 10:47 PM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone  wrote:Even though I have the 16 pro, I'd be curious too. The problem is, the Apple stores are so noisey that it could be a challenge to evaluate the sound. When I got my first iPod touch 3rd gen, even with earphones in, it was very hard to hear, so I talked them into letting me buy it, and bring it back within 14 days without a restocking fee. I didn't take it back. But that was more about accessibility and not sound, but the same idea. Richard, USA"INTROVERTS UNITE ...SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raisedMy web site: https://www.turner42.com(sent from my iPhone 13 pro) On Sep 24, 2024, at 8:31 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:Recently I read, probably on this list, were somebody was talking about how they liked particularly the sound of the iPhone 16 pro speakers. I know when I got my phone which is now six years old, it was a big improvement in the sound over what I had before. So I’m wondering, for anybody who’s actually been to a store and compared them, What is the sound like between the 16 and the 16 pro? MarySent from my iPhone-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/25EEC739-6ADA-4D58-BAAC-322E8CDA07EA%40gmail.com.



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Re: Sound of iPhone speakers

['Richard Turner' via VIPhone]

Even though I have the 16 pro, I'd be curious too. The problem is, the Apple 
stores are so noisey that it could be a challenge to evaluate the sound. When I 
got my first iPod touch 3rd gen, even with earphones in, it was very hard to 
hear, so I talked them into letting me buy it, and bring it back within 14 days 
without a restocking fee. I didn't take it back. But that was more about 
accessibility and not sound, but the same idea. 


Richard, USA
"INTROVERTS UNITE ...
SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

(sent from my iPhone 13 pro) 


> On Sep 24, 2024, at 8:31 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Recently I read, probably on this list, were somebody was talking about how 
> they liked particularly the sound of the iPhone 16 pro speakers. I know when 
> I got my phone which is now six years old, it was a big improvement in the 
> sound over what I had before. So I’m wondering, for anybody who’s actually 
> been to a store and compared them, What is the sound like between the 16 and 
> the 16 pro? Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Siri Problems

[Michael Amaro]

Yup it worked fore me as well

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Thank you very much!  That worked.

Chris


On Sep 21, 2024, at 7:29 PM, Lyne  wrote:

Hello Chris,

The way to change it is to change country, accept changes and close Siri.
Come back and put your country back and close Siri.
Wait a bit and it should be ok.
Lyne

Le 21 sept. 2024 à 18:38, Chris Chaffin  a 
écrit :



I am having problems with Siri ever since I updated to iOS 18. I am 
running an iPhone 14 Pro.


This is the issues I am having:
1, If I ask Siri to restart my device, she just says, sorry, I can not 
help you with that.
2, If I ask Siri to do any math, addition, multiplication, etc., I get 
the answer, but only printed on the screen, she does not speak the 
answer.
3, If I ask any question; like the weather, a date of a history event, 
famous persons birthday. Everything is always printed on the screen and 
never spoken.

4, The only thing Siri will speak is the time.

I have checked the general Siri settings as well as the Siri settings in 
accessibility.


For responses I have it set to prefer spoken responses.

I have tried doing a forced restart, and it maee no difference.

Even though every thing looks correct, I am not sure why Siri is acting 
the way it is. If anyone has any suggestions for me to try, please let 
me know.


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Re: reading PDF files

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The Kindle app might read it you just have to upload it to your Kindle Library I don't know if you can do that through the share feature in the document but another way is to do it to the Amazon website you can upload things to your Kindle library in the Kindle app is freeOn Sep 24, 2024, at 6:27 PM, k...@axistech.net wrote:My wife has a book in a PDF file she wants to have read on her iPhone. Is there an app that can read a PDF out loud or at least have Voiceover read it to her? We tried Voice Dream but we don’t want to pay the $79 because we don’t think we would use enough to make it worth that. Karl   __ Karl Smith, Access Technology ConsultantAxis4304 South El Camino St.Taylorsville, Utah 84129 Phone: 801-652-5285E-mail: k...@axistech.netAlternate E-mail: karl.axist...@gmail.com Twitter http://twitter.com/axistech 



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Re: Bluetooth and MFI hearing aids.

[Eric Caron]

This may not be your hearing aids.

Using different bluetooth devices I’m told now and then I can’t be 
heard on a call.  Turning off bluetooth and talking on the phone directly fixes 
it.  The problem is not consistent on the bluetooth devices.  It happens often 
with my aftershocks. 

Usually my hearing aids do work with bluetooth on as long as other headsets are 
not connected.

Eric Caron 




> On Sep 24, 2024, at 8:39 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
> 
> Hey Carolyn, I think you might wanna make an audiology appointment and have 
> them look at this. Because the only thing I can think of, is that the 
> microphones are clogged up. This could be why they're breaking in and out.
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 7:13 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> So much of the time, when I'm on the phone, people tell me
>> I'm breaking up, even to the point that I changed from AT&T
>> to Verizon to try to get better coverage. It probably is a
>> little better, but still, people continue to say I'm
>> breaking up. 
>> 
>> Somehow, it dawned on me, that maybe Bluetooth to my hearing
>> aids was the problem, so today when on a call, I told the
>> caller to let me switch it off, and it did give a clearer
>> connection to her. 
>> 
>> I am so disappointed. It is so convenient to have Bluetooth
>> on. 
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Re: SiriusXM Has Done It Again

[Chris Chaffin]

Hi,

I use the SiriusXM app on my iPhone every day.  I will do my best to help you 
out.  What exactly are you trying to do?

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> On Sep 24, 2024, at 9:20 PM, Ron Canazzi  wrote:
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> Hi Group,
> 
> A few weeks ago, I received my SiriuisXM update again. The one in 2023, broke 
> easy accessibility, but someone on this list gave instructions as to how to 
> clumsily use it. Now this method no longer works. Is anyone able to figure 
> out a better way to navigate this app since it's recent update?
> 
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: On Device Voice processing Back to Back Requests and other features will download later how to fix?

[Jonathan Cohn]

I have never seen this, and I thought it wasn’t gonna be available until iOS 18.1. Is there a specific type of request that you were doing with this message showed up?Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 24, 2024, at 4:01 PM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone  wrote:OK, that hasn’t happened for me.I’m on the 16 Pro now, but that shouldn’t matter.Perhaps call Apple Accessibility if that continues.  Richard, USA"INTROVERTS UNITE ... SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael AmaroSent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 12:57 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: On Device Voice processing Back to Back Requests and other features will download later how to fix? When trying to use siri From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 12:54 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: On Device Voice processing Back to Back Requests and other features will download later how to fix? My first guess is the only fix is to wait for it to do its thing.  But since I have never run across this prompt, you may want to give more context of where this is happening exactly.  Richard, USA"INTROVERTS UNITE ... SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Michael AmaroSent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 12:42 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: On Device Voice processing Back to Back Requests and other features will download later how to fix? Hello Listers, I am running latest iOS on an iPhone sE 2022.  Subjectline says it all how do I fix this issue?  Before you ask, I am indeed connected to my wifi.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/74867000E3584F3597AE585939D50039%40DESKTOPGJ7GNC7.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/003f01db0ebb%2495b7de50%24c1279af0%24%40comcast.net.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/F6A30DC5B43644C48F0376B726AB4A11%40DESKTOPGJ7GNC7.



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RE: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses and minuses

[sarai.bucciarelli]

Hi:
I purchase directly from Apple. If it is one of the big 4 no issues. Haven't 
done it with Visible yet.

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Otten
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 4:45 PM
To: VIPhone via 
Subject: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses and 
minuses

Hi all.
I have always gotten my phones through my carrier. This present phone is six 
years old, so it’s been a while. I had thought I might switch carriers but I 
think we’re going to standpat with what we have on T-Mobile. But as far as I 
can see, T-Mobile isn’t really offering me anything useful. I would have to 
upgrade to their most expensive plan, which would be really stupid in our case, 
since we don’t need or want any of the extras that we would get. so the 
question: has anybody purchased a phone through Apple that is going to be 
connected with your carrier once you get it? That is not an unlocked phone. 
What’s that like as opposed to going through your carrier? I figure that if I 
buy it through Apple, at least I can get 5% back via my Apple card, which beats 
a blank when you’re talking about 1000 bucks or so.  Mary

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Re: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses and minuses

[Joseph Hudson]

Well, I guess I was lucky, because the two times I've had to switch numbers to 
a different carrier, it took maybe 30 minutes. And I've done this several times.

> On Sep 24, 2024, at 7:20 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> It is an ordeal to get a number transferred, if changing carriers. However, 
> when I did change to Verizon from AT&T, when AT&T realized that I'd moved to 
> a rural area, and that Verizon had fuller coverage here, they worked with me 
> and Verizon to port my number. It takes some time, like several days, or it 
> did in my case. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 6:26 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier 
> pluses and minuses
> 
> OK. So I can’t remember if this phone has an eSIM or not. It’s a 10 R. I 
> suppose the new ones have already in them, so the only question would be 
> getting my number changed over to that one from this one, and I have some 
> vague memory of some kind of online process you could do for that. I don’t 
> remember though. There’s no reason for me to go through the carrier, as this 
> 10 are isn’t going to be worth  very much of anything. 
> Better to keep it around as a spare, plus I still have barred books I need to 
> get off of here by reading them. I wish that bar books would be transferred 
> to your new phone when you get it, but they’re not. Or at least they weren’t 
> back in the day, and I assume they still are not. Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 3:21 PM, Julian  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mary,
>> 
>> I always prefer to get my phones directly from Apple. Generally, it tends to 
>> be a lot less complicated. The only reason, at least in my opinion, to get a 
>> phone through your carrier is if your carrier is offering such a good deal 
>> That makes it worth the while.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 2:57 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’ve bought all my pfones through apple. I just told apple I was with 
>>> Verizon when I bought my iPhone 8 and 13 pro max and all was good. Now if 
>>> you get a new phone, you’ll have to have an esim card, but that shde no 
>>> problem. I’ll probably get my next phone through apple as well.
>>> Sent from Joshua’s radical chariot!!!
>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:48 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi mary, I've purchased phones that are going to be connected to the 
>>>> carrier and I'm also purchased unlocked phones. However, any phones that 
>>>> I've purchased, from Apple directly, I have just done it all unlocked and 
>>>> either put in my Sim card or activated the eSIM. There's not really any 
>>>> parks other than if your phone has any value to it they'll put it towards 
>>>> the cost of the new one. I hope that explains everything.
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:44 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all.
>>>>> I have always gotten my phones through my carrier. This present phone is 
>>>>> six years old, so it’s been a while. I had thought I might switch 
>>>>> carriers but I think we’re going to standpat with what we have on 
>>>>> T-Mobile. But as far as I can see, T-Mobile isn’t really offering me 
>>>>> anything useful. I would have to upgrade to their most expensive plan, 
>>>>> which would be really stupid in our case, since we don’t need or want any 
>>>>> of the extras that we would get. so the question: has anybody purchased a 
>>>>> phone through Apple that is going to be connected with your carrier once 
>>>>> you get it? That is not an unlocked phone. What’s that like as opposed to 
>>>>> going through your carrier? I figure that if I buy it through Apple, at 
>>>>> least I can get 5% back via my Apple card, which beats a blank when 
>>>>> you’re talking about 1000 bucks or so.  Mary
>>>>> 
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Re: Bluetooth and MFI hearing aids.

[Joseph Hudson]

Hey Carolyn, I think you might wanna make an audiology appointment and have 
them look at this. Because the only thing I can think of, is that the 
microphones are clogged up. This could be why they're breaking in and out.

> On Sep 24, 2024, at 7:13 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> So much of the time, when I'm on the phone, people tell me
> I'm breaking up, even to the point that I changed from AT&T
> to Verizon to try to get better coverage. It probably is a
> little better, but still, people continue to say I'm
> breaking up. 
> 
> Somehow, it dawned on me, that maybe Bluetooth to my hearing
> aids was the problem, so today when on a call, I told the
> caller to let me switch it off, and it did give a clearer
> connection to her. 
> 
> I am so disappointed. It is so convenient to have Bluetooth
> on. 
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RE: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses and minuses

[Carolyn Arnold]

Yeah. I've always gone through carrier. I don't think I'd do any other way, but 
good that we have options. 

-Original Message-
From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 6:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses 
and minuses

I went through my carrier and that way it is already setup with the eSim and I 
just had to activate it when it arrived.
So, essentially, buying it online.  


Richard, USA
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 3:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses 
and minuses

Oh well that’s a bummer. I’m going to buy it online, because we don’t have an 
Apple Store.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2024, at 3:22 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
> 
> I used to buy my phones at the local Apple Store and they would set you up 
> with your carrier of choice, but now they just sell you the phone and you 
> have to take it to your carrier to activate.
> 
> Andy
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
> Hendrickson
> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 2:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier 
> pluses and minuses
> 
> I’ve bought all my pfones through apple. I just told apple I was with Verizon 
> when I bought my iPhone 8 and 13 pro max and all was good. Now if you get a 
> new phone, you’ll have to have an esim card, but that shde no problem. I’ll 
> probably get my next phone through apple as well.
> Sent from Joshua’s radical chariot!!!
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:48 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi mary, I've purchased phones that are going to be connected to the 
>> carrier and I'm also purchased unlocked phones. However, any phones that 
>> I've purchased, from Apple directly, I have just done it all unlocked and 
>> either put in my Sim card or activated the eSIM. There's not really any 
>> parks other than if your phone has any value to it they'll put it towards 
>> the cost of the new one. I hope that explains everything.
>> 
>>>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:44 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all.
>>> I have always gotten my phones through my carrier. This present phone is 
>>> six years old, so it’s been a while. I had thought I might switch carriers 
>>> but I think we’re going to standpat with what we have on T-Mobile. But as 
>>> far as I can see, T-Mobile isn’t really offering me anything useful. I 
>>> would have to upgrade to their most expensive plan, which would be really 
>>> stupid in our case, since we don’t need or want any of the extras that we 
>>> would get. so the question: has anybody purchased a phone through Apple 
>>> that is going to be connected with your carrier once you get it? That is 
>>> not an unlocked phone. What’s that like as opposed to going through your 
>>> carrier? I figure that if I buy it through Apple, at least I can get 5% 
>>> back via my Apple card, which beats a blank when you’re talking about 1000 
>>> bucks or so.  Mary
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses and minuses

[Carolyn Arnold]

It is an ordeal to get a number transferred, if changing carriers. However, 
when I did change to Verizon from AT&T, when AT&T realized that I'd moved to a 
rural area, and that Verizon had fuller coverage here, they worked with me and 
Verizon to port my number. It takes some time, like several days, or it did in 
my case. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 6:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses 
and minuses

OK. So I can’t remember if this phone has an eSIM or not. It’s a 10 R. I 
suppose the new ones have already in them, so the only question would be 
getting my number changed over to that one from this one, and I have some vague 
memory of some kind of online process you could do for that. I don’t remember 
though. There’s no reason for me to go through the carrier, as this 10 are 
isn’t going to be worth  very much of anything. 
 Better to keep it around as a spare, plus I still have barred books I need to 
get off of here by reading them. I wish that bar books would be transferred to 
your new phone when you get it, but they’re not. Or at least they weren’t back 
in the day, and I assume they still are not. Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2024, at 3:21 PM, Julian  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
> 
> I always prefer to get my phones directly from Apple. Generally, it tends to 
> be a lot less complicated. The only reason, at least in my opinion, to get a 
> phone through your carrier is if your carrier is offering such a good deal 
> That makes it worth the while.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 2:57 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>> 
>> I’ve bought all my pfones through apple. I just told apple I was with 
>> Verizon when I bought my iPhone 8 and 13 pro max and all was good. Now if 
>> you get a new phone, you’ll have to have an esim card, but that shde no 
>> problem. I’ll probably get my next phone through apple as well.
>> Sent from Joshua’s radical chariot!!!
>> 
>>>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:48 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi mary, I've purchased phones that are going to be connected to the 
>>> carrier and I'm also purchased unlocked phones. However, any phones that 
>>> I've purchased, from Apple directly, I have just done it all unlocked and 
>>> either put in my Sim card or activated the eSIM. There's not really any 
>>> parks other than if your phone has any value to it they'll put it towards 
>>> the cost of the new one. I hope that explains everything.
>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:44 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all.
>>>> I have always gotten my phones through my carrier. This present phone is 
>>>> six years old, so it’s been a while. I had thought I might switch carriers 
>>>> but I think we’re going to standpat with what we have on T-Mobile. But as 
>>>> far as I can see, T-Mobile isn’t really offering me anything useful. I 
>>>> would have to upgrade to their most expensive plan, which would be really 
>>>> stupid in our case, since we don’t need or want any of the extras that we 
>>>> would get. so the question: has anybody purchased a phone through Apple 
>>>> that is going to be connected with your carrier once you get it? That is 
>>>> not an unlocked phone. What’s that like as opposed to going through your 
>>>> carrier? I figure that if I buy it through Apple, at least I can get 5% 
>>>> back via my Apple card, which beats a blank when you’re talking about 1000 
>>>> bucks or so.  Mary
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses and minuses

[Carolyn Arnold]

I just get mine from the carrier and get them to get me set up. Mostly, that 
has worked very well. I had one that really saw me coming, and when I got the 
first month's bill, I made a call, and we took stuff off. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Andy Baracco
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 6:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses 
and minuses

I used to buy my phones at the local Apple Store and they would set you up with 
your carrier of choice, but now they just sell you the phone and you have to 
take it to your carrier to activate.

Andy


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 2:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses 
and minuses

I’ve bought all my pfones through apple. I just told apple I was with Verizon 
when I bought my iPhone 8 and 13 pro max and all was good. Now if you get a new 
phone, you’ll have to have an esim card, but that shde no problem. I’ll 
probably get my next phone through apple as well.
Sent from Joshua’s radical chariot!!!

> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:48 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
> 
> Hi mary, I've purchased phones that are going to be connected to the carrier 
> and I'm also purchased unlocked phones. However, any phones that I've 
> purchased, from Apple directly, I have just done it all unlocked and either 
> put in my Sim card or activated the eSIM. There's not really any parks other 
> than if your phone has any value to it they'll put it towards the cost of the 
> new one. I hope that explains everything.
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:44 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all.
>> I have always gotten my phones through my carrier. This present phone is six 
>> years old, so it’s been a while. I had thought I might switch carriers but I 
>> think we’re going to standpat with what we have on T-Mobile. But as far as I 
>> can see, T-Mobile isn’t really offering me anything useful. I would have to 
>> upgrade to their most expensive plan, which would be really stupid in our 
>> case, since we don’t need or want any of the extras that we would get. so 
>> the question: has anybody purchased a phone through Apple that is going to 
>> be connected with your carrier once you get it? That is not an unlocked 
>> phone. What’s that like as opposed to going through your carrier? I figure 
>> that if I buy it through Apple, at least I can get 5% back via my Apple 
>> card, which beats a blank when you’re talking about 1000 bucks or so.  Mary
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses and minuses

[Carolyn Arnold]

Yeah, like my daughter-in-law lawst year this time - 15 Pro Max for $320.00. 
She has no problem with an expensive phone plan, because she uses her phone to 
death for everything. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Julian
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 6:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses 
and minuses

Hi Mary,

I always prefer to get my phones directly from Apple. Generally, it tends to be 
a lot less complicated. The only reason, at least in my opinion, to get a phone 
through your carrier is if your carrier is offering such a good deal That makes 
it worth the while.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2024, at 2:57 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> I’ve bought all my pfones through apple. I just told apple I was with 
> Verizon when I bought my iPhone 8 and 13 pro max and all was good. Now if you 
> get a new phone, you’ll have to have an esim card, but that shde no problem. 
> I’ll probably get my next phone through apple as well.
> Sent from Joshua’s radical chariot!!!
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:48 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi mary, I've purchased phones that are going to be connected to the 
>> carrier and I'm also purchased unlocked phones. However, any phones that 
>> I've purchased, from Apple directly, I have just done it all unlocked and 
>> either put in my Sim card or activated the eSIM. There's not really any 
>> parks other than if your phone has any value to it they'll put it towards 
>> the cost of the new one. I hope that explains everything.
>> 
>>>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:44 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all.
>>> I have always gotten my phones through my carrier. This present phone is 
>>> six years old, so it’s been a while. I had thought I might switch carriers 
>>> but I think we’re going to standpat with what we have on T-Mobile. But as 
>>> far as I can see, T-Mobile isn’t really offering me anything useful. I 
>>> would have to upgrade to their most expensive plan, which would be really 
>>> stupid in our case, since we don’t need or want any of the extras that we 
>>> would get. so the question: has anybody purchased a phone through Apple 
>>> that is going to be connected with your carrier once you get it? That is 
>>> not an unlocked phone. What’s that like as opposed to going through your 
>>> carrier? I figure that if I buy it through Apple, at least I can get 5% 
>>> back via my Apple card, which beats a blank when you’re talking about 1000 
>>> bucks or so.  Mary
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses and minuses

[Carolyn Arnold]

Well, Mary, for a thousand-dollar phone, yuou get $50, if you get 5%. While 
that is not a lot, it could be that you'd save money, if you can get a cheaper 
calling plan. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 5:45 PM
To: VIPhone via 
Subject: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses and 
minuses

Hi all.
I have always gotten my phones through my carrier. This present phone is six 
years old, so it’s been a while. I had thought I might switch carriers but I 
think we’re going to standpat with what we have on T-Mobile. But as far as I 
can see, T-Mobile isn’t really offering me anything useful. I would have to 
upgrade to their most expensive plan, which would be really stupid in our case, 
since we don’t need or want any of the extras that we would get. so the 
question: has anybody purchased a phone through Apple that is going to be 
connected with your carrier once you get it? That is not an unlocked phone. 
What’s that like as opposed to going through your carrier? I figure that if I 
buy it through Apple, at least I can get 5% back via my Apple card, which beats 
a blank when you’re talking about 1000 bucks or so.  Mary

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RE: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses and minuses

[Juan hernandez]

What’s great about E-SIM it’ll easily transfer. Just keep your old phone near 
your new phone, I mean that’s if your old phone is E-SIM as well.

 

I buy from apple every year on their update program.  They ship me my new 
phone, and I just activate it at home.  No problems.

 

 

From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone  
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 4:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses 
and minuses

 

The new phones in the Us have not had sim trays since the 13 series. I do not 
where things stand outside of the US with the 16's, but the 14 series had SIM 
cards in other countries. 

In the US, all iPhones are now eSim.

 

 

 

Richard, USA

"INTROVERTS UNITE ...

SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"

-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

(sent from my iPhone 13 pro) 

 





On Sep 24, 2024, at 3:51 PM, chrisjudge1...@gmail.com wrote:

Can't you just remove the sim card from your old phone and slip it in the new 
one?

Chris Judge






-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: September 24, 2024 7:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses 
and minuses

I used to buy my phones at the local Apple Store and they would set you up with 
your carrier of choice, but now they just sell you the phone and you have to 
take it to your carrier to activate.

Andy


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 2:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses 
and minuses

I’ve bought all my pfones through apple. I just told apple I was with Verizon 
when I bought my iPhone 8 and 13 pro max and all was good. Now if you get a new 
phone, you’ll have to have an esim card, but that shde no problem. I’ll 
probably get my next phone through apple as well.
Sent from Joshua’s radical chariot!!!




On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:48 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:

 

Hi mary, I've purchased phones that are going to be connected to the carrier 
and I'm also purchased unlocked phones. However, any phones that I've 
purchased, from Apple directly, I have just done it all unlocked and either put 
in my Sim card or activated the eSIM. There's not really any parks other than 
if your phone has any value to it they'll put it towards the cost of the new 
one. I hope that explains everything.

 

On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:44 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

 

Hi all.

I have always gotten my phones through my carrier. This present phone is six 
years old, so it’s been a while. I had thought I might switch carriers but I 
think we’re going to standpat with what we have on T-Mobile. But as far as I 
can see, T-Mobile isn’t really offering me anything useful. I would have to 
upgrade to their most expensive plan, which would be really stupid in our case, 
since we don’t need or want any of the extras that we would get. so the 
question: has anybody purchased a phone through Apple that is going to be 
connected with your carrier once you get it? That is not an unlocked phone. 
What’s that like as opposed to going through your carrier? I figure that if I 
buy it through Apple, at least I can get 5% back via my Apple card, which beats 
a blank when you’re talking about 1000 bucks or so.  Mary

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

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RE: reading PDF files

[llumpkin]

Voice dream should do it.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
paekstr...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 6:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: reading PDF files

 

Hi,

 

You might try the 11 labs reader app.  From their website, 
https://elevenlabs.io/text-reader

 

Listen to anything on the go with the highest quality voices

The ElevenLabs Reader App narrates articles, PDFs, ePubs, newsletters, or any 
other text content. Simply choose a voice from our expansive library, upload 
your content, and listen on the go.

 

I think the app is pretty new and it’s not perfect, but I have used it 
successfully.

 

Pam

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Subject: reading PDF files

 

My wife has a book in a PDF file she wants to have read on her iPhone. Is there 
an app that can read a PDF out loud or at least have Voiceover read it to her? 
We tried Voice Dream but we don’t want to pay the $79 because we don’t think we 
would use enough to make it worth that.

 

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Re: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses and minuses

['Richard Turner' via VIPhone]

The new phones in the Us have not had sim trays since the 13 series. I do not 
where things stand outside of the US with the 16's, but the 14 series had SIM 
cards in other countries. 
In the US, all iPhones are now eSim.



Richard, USA
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(sent from my iPhone 13 pro) 


> On Sep 24, 2024, at 3:51 PM, chrisjudge1...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Can't you just remove the sim card from your old phone and slip it in the 
> new one?
> 
> Chris Judge
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
> Baracco
> Sent: September 24, 2024 7:22 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier 
> pluses and minuses
> 
> I used to buy my phones at the local Apple Store and they would set you up 
> with your carrier of choice, but now they just sell you the phone and you 
> have to take it to your carrier to activate.
> 
> Andy
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
> Hendrickson
> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 2:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier 
> pluses and minuses
> 
> I’ve bought all my pfones through apple. I just told apple I was with Verizon 
> when I bought my iPhone 8 and 13 pro max and all was good. Now if you get a 
> new phone, you’ll have to have an esim card, but that shde no problem. I’ll 
> probably get my next phone through apple as well.
> Sent from Joshua’s radical chariot!!!
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:48 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi mary, I've purchased phones that are going to be connected to the 
>> carrier and I'm also purchased unlocked phones. However, any phones that 
>> I've purchased, from Apple directly, I have just done it all unlocked and 
>> either put in my Sim card or activated the eSIM. There's not really any 
>> parks other than if your phone has any value to it they'll put it towards 
>> the cost of the new one. I hope that explains everything.
>> 
>>>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:44 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all.
>>> I have always gotten my phones through my carrier. This present phone is 
>>> six years old, so it’s been a while. I had thought I might switch carriers 
>>> but I think we’re going to standpat with what we have on T-Mobile. But as 
>>> far as I can see, T-Mobile isn’t really offering me anything useful. I 
>>> would have to upgrade to their most expensive plan, which would be really 
>>> stupid in our case, since we don’t need or want any of the extras that we 
>>> would get. so the question: has anybody purchased a phone through Apple 
>>> that is going to be connected with your carrier once you get it? That is 
>>> not an unlocked phone. What’s that like as opposed to going through your 
>>> carrier? I figure that if I buy it through Apple, at least I can get 5% 
>>> back via my Apple card, which beats a blank when you’re talking about 1000 
>>> bucks or so.  Mary
>>> 
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RE: reading PDF files

[paekstrand]

Hi,

 

You might try the 11 labs reader app.  From their website, 
https://elevenlabs.io/text-reader

 

Listen to anything on the go with the highest quality voices

The ElevenLabs Reader App narrates articles, PDFs, ePubs, newsletters, or any 
other text content. Simply choose a voice from our expansive library, upload 
your content, and listen on the go.

 

I think the app is pretty new and it’s not perfect, but I have used it 
successfully.

 

Pam

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: reading PDF files

 

My wife has a book in a PDF file she wants to have read on her iPhone. Is there 
an app that can read a PDF out loud or at least have Voiceover read it to her? 
We tried Voice Dream but we don’t want to pay the $79 because we don’t think we 
would use enough to make it worth that.

 

Karl

 

 

 

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RE: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses and minuses

[realman02 via VIPhone]

I bought an iphone through apple and had no problem setting it up. I think I 
had to call Verizon at one point to set up my cell service, but that's it. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 5:45 PM
To: VIPhone via 
Subject: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses and 
minuses

Hi all.
I have always gotten my phones through my carrier. This present phone is six 
years old, so it’s been a while. I had thought I might switch carriers but I 
think we’re going to standpat with what we have on T-Mobile. But as far as I 
can see, T-Mobile isn’t really offering me anything useful. I would have to 
upgrade to their most expensive plan, which would be really stupid in our case, 
since we don’t need or want any of the extras that we would get. so the 
question: has anybody purchased a phone through Apple that is going to be 
connected with your carrier once you get it? That is not an unlocked phone. 
What’s that like as opposed to going through your carrier? I figure that if I 
buy it through Apple, at least I can get 5% back via my Apple card, which beats 
a blank when you’re talking about 1000 bucks or so.  Mary

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: reading PDF files

[leobado1982]

Try ElevenLabs Reader, AI-based natural voices, totally free, at least for now, 
and today it got updated making easier to move smoothly for voice over although 
it is not exactly designed for people with disabilities, but it is accessible 
and it is continuously improving. Download it from the following link:

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/reader-by-elevenlabs/id6479373050

 

 

Cheers,

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dreams himself your master."

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Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 4:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: reading PDF files

 

My wife has a book in a PDF file she wants to have read on her iPhone. Is there 
an app that can read a PDF out loud or at least have Voiceover read it to her? 
We tried Voice Dream but we don’t want to pay the $79 because we don’t think we 
would use enough to make it worth that.

 

Karl

 

 

 

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Axis

4304 South El Camino St.

Taylorsville, Utah 84129

 

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RE: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses and minuses

[chrisjudge1967]

Is it a discount or are you just paying it off over time?

Chris Judge






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mi...@eastlink.ca
Sent: September 24, 2024 7:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses 
and minuses

I have never baught a I phone from anyone other then my carrier since hear in 
Canada I have baught from my carrier because they will give you a discount on 
the phone under a 2 year contract. From Mich.

-Original Message-
From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone  
Sent: September 24, 2024 6:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses 
and minuses

FYI, all new iPhones in the United states come with eSim.  I don’t' think they 
even have a sim card tray, though I have not checked on the 16 pro.


Richard, USA
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 3:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses 
and minuses

OK. So I can’t remember if this phone has an eSIM or not. It’s a 10 R. I 
suppose the new ones have already in them, so the only question would be 
getting my number changed over to that one from this one, and I have some vague 
memory of some kind of online process you could do for that. I don’t remember 
though. There’s no reason for me to go through the carrier, as this 10 are 
isn’t going to be worth  very much of anything. 
 Better to keep it around as a spare, plus I still have barred books I need to 
get off of here by reading them. I wish that bar books would be transferred to 
your new phone when you get it, but they’re not. Or at least they weren’t back 
in the day, and I assume they still are not. Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2024, at 3:21 PM, Julian  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
> 
> I always prefer to get my phones directly from Apple. Generally, it tends to 
> be a lot less complicated. The only reason, at least in my opinion, to get a 
> phone through your carrier is if your carrier is offering such a good deal 
> That makes it worth the while.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 2:57 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>> 
>> I’ve bought all my pfones through apple. I just told apple I was with 
>> Verizon when I bought my iPhone 8 and 13 pro max and all was good. Now if 
>> you get a new phone, you’ll have to have an esim card, but that shde no 
>> problem. I’ll probably get my next phone through apple as well.
>> Sent from Joshua’s radical chariot!!!
>> 
>>>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:48 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi mary, I've purchased phones that are going to be connected to the 
>>> carrier and I'm also purchased unlocked phones. However, any phones that 
>>> I've purchased, from Apple directly, I have just done it all unlocked and 
>>> either put in my Sim card or activated the eSIM. There's not really any 
>>> parks other than if your phone has any value to it they'll put it towards 
>>> the cost of the new one. I hope that explains everything.
>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:44 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all.
>>>> I have always gotten my phones through my carrier. This present phone is 
>>>> six years old, so it’s been a while. I had thought I might switch carriers 
>>>> but I think we’re going to standpat with what we have on T-Mobile. But as 
>>>> far as I can see, T-Mobile isn’t really offering me anything useful. I 
>>>> would have to upgrade to their most expensive plan, which would be really 
>>>> stupid in our case, since we don’t need or want any of the extras that we 
>>>> would get. so the question: has anybody purchased a phone through Apple 
>>>> that is going to be connected with your carrier once you get it? That is 
>>>> not an unlocked phone. What’s that like as opposed to going through your 
>>>> carrier? I figure that if I buy it through Apple, at least I can get 5% 
>>>> back via my Apple card, which beats a blank when you’re talking about 1000 
>>>> bucks or so.  Mary
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses and minuses

[chrisjudge1967]

Can't you just remove the sim card from your old phone and slip it in the new 
one?

Chris Judge






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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: September 24, 2024 7:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses 
and minuses

I used to buy my phones at the local Apple Store and they would set you up with 
your carrier of choice, but now they just sell you the phone and you have to 
take it to your carrier to activate.

Andy


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 2:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses 
and minuses

I’ve bought all my pfones through apple. I just told apple I was with Verizon 
when I bought my iPhone 8 and 13 pro max and all was good. Now if you get a new 
phone, you’ll have to have an esim card, but that shde no problem. I’ll 
probably get my next phone through apple as well.
Sent from Joshua’s radical chariot!!!

> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:48 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
> 
> Hi mary, I've purchased phones that are going to be connected to the carrier 
> and I'm also purchased unlocked phones. However, any phones that I've 
> purchased, from Apple directly, I have just done it all unlocked and either 
> put in my Sim card or activated the eSIM. There's not really any parks other 
> than if your phone has any value to it they'll put it towards the cost of the 
> new one. I hope that explains everything.
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:44 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all.
>> I have always gotten my phones through my carrier. This present phone is six 
>> years old, so it’s been a while. I had thought I might switch carriers but I 
>> think we’re going to standpat with what we have on T-Mobile. But as far as I 
>> can see, T-Mobile isn’t really offering me anything useful. I would have to 
>> upgrade to their most expensive plan, which would be really stupid in our 
>> case, since we don’t need or want any of the extras that we would get. so 
>> the question: has anybody purchased a phone through Apple that is going to 
>> be connected with your carrier once you get it? That is not an unlocked 
>> phone. What’s that like as opposed to going through your carrier? I figure 
>> that if I buy it through Apple, at least I can get 5% back via my Apple 
>> card, which beats a blank when you’re talking about 1000 bucks or so.  Mary
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses and minuses

[chrisjudge1967]

I bought my 15 pro from Apple in February. I didn't have to tell them what 
carrier I'm with. Of course I'm in Canada so the process might be different. I 
was even asked during the set up process if I wanted to use the ESim. I can't 
remember the exact process now but it was seamless.

Chris Judge






-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: September 24, 2024 6:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses 
and minuses

I’ve bought all my pfones through apple. I just told apple I was with Verizon 
when I bought my iPhone 8 and 13 pro max and all was good. Now if you get a new 
phone, you’ll have to have an esim card, but that shde no problem. I’ll 
probably get my next phone through apple as well.
Sent from Joshua’s radical chariot!!!

> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:48 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
> 
> Hi mary, I've purchased phones that are going to be connected to the carrier 
> and I'm also purchased unlocked phones. However, any phones that I've 
> purchased, from Apple directly, I have just done it all unlocked and either 
> put in my Sim card or activated the eSIM. There's not really any parks other 
> than if your phone has any value to it they'll put it towards the cost of the 
> new one. I hope that explains everything.
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:44 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all.
>> I have always gotten my phones through my carrier. This present phone is six 
>> years old, so it’s been a while. I had thought I might switch carriers but I 
>> think we’re going to standpat with what we have on T-Mobile. But as far as I 
>> can see, T-Mobile isn’t really offering me anything useful. I would have to 
>> upgrade to their most expensive plan, which would be really stupid in our 
>> case, since we don’t need or want any of the extras that we would get. so 
>> the question: has anybody purchased a phone through Apple that is going to 
>> be connected with your carrier once you get it? That is not an unlocked 
>> phone. What’s that like as opposed to going through your carrier? I figure 
>> that if I buy it through Apple, at least I can get 5% back via my Apple 
>> card, which beats a blank when you’re talking about 1000 bucks or so.  Mary
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses and minuses

[Lenron Brown]

Apple still sets up your phones in the store with the major carriers.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2024, at 5:27 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Oh well that’s a bummer. I’m going to buy it online, because we don’t have 
> an Apple Store.
> Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 3:22 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
>> 
>> I used to buy my phones at the local Apple Store and they would set you up 
>> with your carrier of choice, but now they just sell you the phone and you 
>> have to take it to your carrier to activate.
>> 
>> Andy
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Joshua Hendrickson
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 2:58 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier 
>> pluses and minuses
>> 
>> I’ve bought all my pfones through apple. I just told apple I was with 
>> Verizon when I bought my iPhone 8 and 13 pro max and all was good. Now if 
>> you get a new phone, you’ll have to have an esim card, but that shde no 
>> problem. I’ll probably get my next phone through apple as well.
>> Sent from Joshua’s radical chariot!!!
>> 
>>>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:48 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi mary, I've purchased phones that are going to be connected to the 
>>> carrier and I'm also purchased unlocked phones. However, any phones that 
>>> I've purchased, from Apple directly, I have just done it all unlocked and 
>>> either put in my Sim card or activated the eSIM. There's not really any 
>>> parks other than if your phone has any value to it they'll put it towards 
>>> the cost of the new one. I hope that explains everything.
>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:44 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all.
>>>> I have always gotten my phones through my carrier. This present phone is 
>>>> six years old, so it’s been a while. I had thought I might switch carriers 
>>>> but I think we’re going to standpat with what we have on T-Mobile. But as 
>>>> far as I can see, T-Mobile isn’t really offering me anything useful. I 
>>>> would have to upgrade to their most expensive plan, which would be really 
>>>> stupid in our case, since we don’t need or want any of the extras that we 
>>>> would get. so the question: has anybody purchased a phone through Apple 
>>>> that is going to be connected with your carrier once you get it? That is 
>>>> not an unlocked phone. What’s that like as opposed to going through your 
>>>> carrier? I figure that if I buy it through Apple, at least I can get 5% 
>>>> back via my Apple card, which beats a blank when you’re talking about 1000 
>>>> bucks or so.  Mary
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses and minuses

[michv]

I have never baught a I phone from anyone other then my carrier since hear in 
Canada I have baught from my carrier because they will give you a discount on 
the phone under a 2 year contract. From Mich.

-Original Message-
From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone  
Sent: September 24, 2024 6:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses 
and minuses

FYI, all new iPhones in the United states come with eSim.  I don’t' think they 
even have a sim card tray, though I have not checked on the 16 pro.


Richard, USA
"INTROVERTS UNITE ... 
SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 3:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses 
and minuses

OK. So I can’t remember if this phone has an eSIM or not. It’s a 10 R. I 
suppose the new ones have already in them, so the only question would be 
getting my number changed over to that one from this one, and I have some vague 
memory of some kind of online process you could do for that. I don’t remember 
though. There’s no reason for me to go through the carrier, as this 10 are 
isn’t going to be worth  very much of anything. 
 Better to keep it around as a spare, plus I still have barred books I need to 
get off of here by reading them. I wish that bar books would be transferred to 
your new phone when you get it, but they’re not. Or at least they weren’t back 
in the day, and I assume they still are not. Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2024, at 3:21 PM, Julian  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
> 
> I always prefer to get my phones directly from Apple. Generally, it tends to 
> be a lot less complicated. The only reason, at least in my opinion, to get a 
> phone through your carrier is if your carrier is offering such a good deal 
> That makes it worth the while.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 2:57 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>> 
>> I’ve bought all my pfones through apple. I just told apple I was with 
>> Verizon when I bought my iPhone 8 and 13 pro max and all was good. Now if 
>> you get a new phone, you’ll have to have an esim card, but that shde no 
>> problem. I’ll probably get my next phone through apple as well.
>> Sent from Joshua’s radical chariot!!!
>> 
>>>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:48 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi mary, I've purchased phones that are going to be connected to the 
>>> carrier and I'm also purchased unlocked phones. However, any phones that 
>>> I've purchased, from Apple directly, I have just done it all unlocked and 
>>> either put in my Sim card or activated the eSIM. There's not really any 
>>> parks other than if your phone has any value to it they'll put it towards 
>>> the cost of the new one. I hope that explains everything.
>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:44 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all.
>>>> I have always gotten my phones through my carrier. This present phone is 
>>>> six years old, so it’s been a while. I had thought I might switch carriers 
>>>> but I think we’re going to standpat with what we have on T-Mobile. But as 
>>>> far as I can see, T-Mobile isn’t really offering me anything useful. I 
>>>> would have to upgrade to their most expensive plan, which would be really 
>>>> stupid in our case, since we don’t need or want any of the extras that we 
>>>> would get. so the question: has anybody purchased a phone through Apple 
>>>> that is going to be connected with your carrier once you get it? That is 
>>>> not an unlocked phone. What’s that like as opposed to going through your 
>>>> carrier? I figure that if I buy it through Apple, at least I can get 5% 
>>>> back via my Apple card, which beats a blank when you’re talking about 1000 
>>>> bucks or so.  Mary
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
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RE: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses and minuses

['Richard Turner' via VIPhone]

FYI, all new iPhones in the United states come with eSim.  I don’t' think they 
even have a sim card tray, though I have not checked on the 16 pro.


Richard, USA
"INTROVERTS UNITE ... 
SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 3:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses 
and minuses

OK. So I can’t remember if this phone has an eSIM or not. It’s a 10 R. I 
suppose the new ones have already in them, so the only question would be 
getting my number changed over to that one from this one, and I have some vague 
memory of some kind of online process you could do for that. I don’t remember 
though. There’s no reason for me to go through the carrier, as this 10 are 
isn’t going to be worth  very much of anything. 
 Better to keep it around as a spare, plus I still have barred books I need to 
get off of here by reading them. I wish that bar books would be transferred to 
your new phone when you get it, but they’re not. Or at least they weren’t back 
in the day, and I assume they still are not. Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2024, at 3:21 PM, Julian  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
> 
> I always prefer to get my phones directly from Apple. Generally, it tends to 
> be a lot less complicated. The only reason, at least in my opinion, to get a 
> phone through your carrier is if your carrier is offering such a good deal 
> That makes it worth the while.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 2:57 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>> 
>> I’ve bought all my pfones through apple. I just told apple I was with 
>> Verizon when I bought my iPhone 8 and 13 pro max and all was good. Now if 
>> you get a new phone, you’ll have to have an esim card, but that shde no 
>> problem. I’ll probably get my next phone through apple as well.
>> Sent from Joshua’s radical chariot!!!
>> 
>>>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:48 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi mary, I've purchased phones that are going to be connected to the 
>>> carrier and I'm also purchased unlocked phones. However, any phones that 
>>> I've purchased, from Apple directly, I have just done it all unlocked and 
>>> either put in my Sim card or activated the eSIM. There's not really any 
>>> parks other than if your phone has any value to it they'll put it towards 
>>> the cost of the new one. I hope that explains everything.
>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:44 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all.
>>>> I have always gotten my phones through my carrier. This present phone is 
>>>> six years old, so it’s been a while. I had thought I might switch carriers 
>>>> but I think we’re going to standpat with what we have on T-Mobile. But as 
>>>> far as I can see, T-Mobile isn’t really offering me anything useful. I 
>>>> would have to upgrade to their most expensive plan, which would be really 
>>>> stupid in our case, since we don’t need or want any of the extras that we 
>>>> would get. so the question: has anybody purchased a phone through Apple 
>>>> that is going to be connected with your carrier once you get it? That is 
>>>> not an unlocked phone. What’s that like as opposed to going through your 
>>>> carrier? I figure that if I buy it through Apple, at least I can get 5% 
>>>> back via my Apple card, which beats a blank when you’re talking about 1000 
>>>> bucks or so.  Mary
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
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RE: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses and minuses

['Richard Turner' via VIPhone]

I went through my carrier and that way it is already setup with the eSim and I 
just had to activate it when it arrived.
So, essentially, buying it online.  


Richard, USA
"INTROVERTS UNITE ... 
SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 3:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses 
and minuses

Oh well that’s a bummer. I’m going to buy it online, because we don’t have an 
Apple Store.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2024, at 3:22 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
> 
> I used to buy my phones at the local Apple Store and they would set you up 
> with your carrier of choice, but now they just sell you the phone and you 
> have to take it to your carrier to activate.
> 
> Andy
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
> Hendrickson
> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 2:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier 
> pluses and minuses
> 
> I’ve bought all my pfones through apple. I just told apple I was with Verizon 
> when I bought my iPhone 8 and 13 pro max and all was good. Now if you get a 
> new phone, you’ll have to have an esim card, but that shde no problem. I’ll 
> probably get my next phone through apple as well.
> Sent from Joshua’s radical chariot!!!
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:48 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi mary, I've purchased phones that are going to be connected to the 
>> carrier and I'm also purchased unlocked phones. However, any phones that 
>> I've purchased, from Apple directly, I have just done it all unlocked and 
>> either put in my Sim card or activated the eSIM. There's not really any 
>> parks other than if your phone has any value to it they'll put it towards 
>> the cost of the new one. I hope that explains everything.
>> 
>>>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:44 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all.
>>> I have always gotten my phones through my carrier. This present phone is 
>>> six years old, so it’s been a while. I had thought I might switch carriers 
>>> but I think we’re going to standpat with what we have on T-Mobile. But as 
>>> far as I can see, T-Mobile isn’t really offering me anything useful. I 
>>> would have to upgrade to their most expensive plan, which would be really 
>>> stupid in our case, since we don’t need or want any of the extras that we 
>>> would get. so the question: has anybody purchased a phone through Apple 
>>> that is going to be connected with your carrier once you get it? That is 
>>> not an unlocked phone. What’s that like as opposed to going through your 
>>> carrier? I figure that if I buy it through Apple, at least I can get 5% 
>>> back via my Apple card, which beats a blank when you’re talking about 1000 
>>> bucks or so.  Mary
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
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Re: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses and minuses

[Mary Otten]

Oh well that’s a bummer. I’m going to buy it online, because we don’t have an 
Apple Store.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2024, at 3:22 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
> 
> I used to buy my phones at the local Apple Store and they would set you up 
> with your carrier of choice, but now they just sell you the phone and you 
> have to take it to your carrier to activate.
> 
> Andy
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
> Hendrickson
> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 2:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier 
> pluses and minuses
> 
> I’ve bought all my pfones through apple. I just told apple I was with Verizon 
> when I bought my iPhone 8 and 13 pro max and all was good. Now if you get a 
> new phone, you’ll have to have an esim card, but that shde no problem. I’ll 
> probably get my next phone through apple as well.
> Sent from Joshua’s radical chariot!!!
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:48 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi mary, I've purchased phones that are going to be connected to the 
>> carrier and I'm also purchased unlocked phones. However, any phones that 
>> I've purchased, from Apple directly, I have just done it all unlocked and 
>> either put in my Sim card or activated the eSIM. There's not really any 
>> parks other than if your phone has any value to it they'll put it towards 
>> the cost of the new one. I hope that explains everything.
>> 
>>>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:44 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all.
>>> I have always gotten my phones through my carrier. This present phone is 
>>> six years old, so it’s been a while. I had thought I might switch carriers 
>>> but I think we’re going to standpat with what we have on T-Mobile. But as 
>>> far as I can see, T-Mobile isn’t really offering me anything useful. I 
>>> would have to upgrade to their most expensive plan, which would be really 
>>> stupid in our case, since we don’t need or want any of the extras that we 
>>> would get. so the question: has anybody purchased a phone through Apple 
>>> that is going to be connected with your carrier once you get it? That is 
>>> not an unlocked phone. What’s that like as opposed to going through your 
>>> carrier? I figure that if I buy it through Apple, at least I can get 5% 
>>> back via my Apple card, which beats a blank when you’re talking about 1000 
>>> bucks or so.  Mary
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses and minuses

[Mary Otten]

OK. So I can’t remember if this phone has an eSIM or not. It’s a 10 R. I 
suppose the new ones have already in them, so the only question would be 
getting my number changed over to that one from this one, and I have some vague 
memory of some kind of online process you could do for that. I don’t remember 
though. There’s no reason for me to go through the carrier, as this 10 are 
isn’t going to be worth  very much of anything. 
 Better to keep it around as a spare, plus I still have barred books I need to 
get off of here by reading them. I wish that bar books would be transferred to 
your new phone when you get it, but they’re not. Or at least they weren’t back 
in the day, and I assume they still are not. Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2024, at 3:21 PM, Julian  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
> 
> I always prefer to get my phones directly from Apple. Generally, it tends to 
> be a lot less complicated. The only reason, at least in my opinion, to get a 
> phone through your carrier is if your carrier is offering such a good deal 
> That makes it worth the while.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 2:57 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>> 
>> I’ve bought all my pfones through apple. I just told apple I was with 
>> Verizon when I bought my iPhone 8 and 13 pro max and all was good. Now if 
>> you get a new phone, you’ll have to have an esim card, but that shde no 
>> problem. I’ll probably get my next phone through apple as well.
>> Sent from Joshua’s radical chariot!!!
>> 
 On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:48 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi mary, I've purchased phones that are going to be connected to the 
>>> carrier and I'm also purchased unlocked phones. However, any phones that 
>>> I've purchased, from Apple directly, I have just done it all unlocked and 
>>> either put in my Sim card or activated the eSIM. There's not really any 
>>> parks other than if your phone has any value to it they'll put it towards 
>>> the cost of the new one. I hope that explains everything.
>>> 
> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:44 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
 Hi all.
 I have always gotten my phones through my carrier. This present phone is 
 six years old, so it’s been a while. I had thought I might switch carriers 
 but I think we’re going to standpat with what we have on T-Mobile. But as 
 far as I can see, T-Mobile isn’t really offering me anything useful. I 
 would have to upgrade to their most expensive plan, which would be really 
 stupid in our case, since we don’t need or want any of the extras that we 
 would get. so the question: has anybody purchased a phone through Apple 
 that is going to be connected with your carrier once you get it? That is 
 not an unlocked phone. What’s that like as opposed to going through your 
 carrier? I figure that if I buy it through Apple, at least I can get 5% 
 back via my Apple card, which beats a blank when you’re talking about 1000 
 bucks or so.  Mary
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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RE: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses and minuses

[Andy Baracco]

I used to buy my phones at the local Apple Store and they would set you up with 
your carrier of choice, but now they just sell you the phone and you have to 
take it to your carrier to activate.

Andy


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 2:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses 
and minuses

I’ve bought all my pfones through apple. I just told apple I was with Verizon 
when I bought my iPhone 8 and 13 pro max and all was good. Now if you get a new 
phone, you’ll have to have an esim card, but that shde no problem. I’ll 
probably get my next phone through apple as well.
Sent from Joshua’s radical chariot!!!

> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:48 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
> 
> Hi mary, I've purchased phones that are going to be connected to the carrier 
> and I'm also purchased unlocked phones. However, any phones that I've 
> purchased, from Apple directly, I have just done it all unlocked and either 
> put in my Sim card or activated the eSIM. There's not really any parks other 
> than if your phone has any value to it they'll put it towards the cost of the 
> new one. I hope that explains everything.
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:44 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all.
>> I have always gotten my phones through my carrier. This present phone is six 
>> years old, so it’s been a while. I had thought I might switch carriers but I 
>> think we’re going to standpat with what we have on T-Mobile. But as far as I 
>> can see, T-Mobile isn’t really offering me anything useful. I would have to 
>> upgrade to their most expensive plan, which would be really stupid in our 
>> case, since we don’t need or want any of the extras that we would get. so 
>> the question: has anybody purchased a phone through Apple that is going to 
>> be connected with your carrier once you get it? That is not an unlocked 
>> phone. What’s that like as opposed to going through your carrier? I figure 
>> that if I buy it through Apple, at least I can get 5% back via my Apple 
>> card, which beats a blank when you’re talking about 1000 bucks or so.  Mary
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
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Re: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses and minuses

[Julian]

Hi Mary,

I always prefer to get my phones directly from Apple. Generally, it tends to be 
a lot less complicated. The only reason, at least in my opinion, to get a phone 
through your carrier is if your carrier is offering such a good deal That makes 
it worth the while.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2024, at 2:57 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> I’ve bought all my pfones through apple. I just told apple I was with 
> Verizon when I bought my iPhone 8 and 13 pro max and all was good. Now if you 
> get a new phone, you’ll have to have an esim card, but that shde no problem. 
> I’ll probably get my next phone through apple as well.
> Sent from Joshua’s radical chariot!!!
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:48 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi mary, I've purchased phones that are going to be connected to the 
>> carrier and I'm also purchased unlocked phones. However, any phones that 
>> I've purchased, from Apple directly, I have just done it all unlocked and 
>> either put in my Sim card or activated the eSIM. There's not really any 
>> parks other than if your phone has any value to it they'll put it towards 
>> the cost of the new one. I hope that explains everything.
>> 
 On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:44 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all.
>>> I have always gotten my phones through my carrier. This present phone is 
>>> six years old, so it’s been a while. I had thought I might switch carriers 
>>> but I think we’re going to standpat with what we have on T-Mobile. But as 
>>> far as I can see, T-Mobile isn’t really offering me anything useful. I 
>>> would have to upgrade to their most expensive plan, which would be really 
>>> stupid in our case, since we don’t need or want any of the extras that we 
>>> would get. so the question: has anybody purchased a phone through Apple 
>>> that is going to be connected with your carrier once you get it? That is 
>>> not an unlocked phone. What’s that like as opposed to going through your 
>>> carrier? I figure that if I buy it through Apple, at least I can get 5% 
>>> back via my Apple card, which beats a blank when you’re talking about 1000 
>>> bucks or so.  Mary
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses and minuses

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I’ve bought all my pfones through apple. I just told apple I was with Verizon 
when I bought my iPhone 8 and 13 pro max and all was good. Now if you get a new 
phone, you’ll have to have an esim card, but that shde no problem. I’ll 
probably get my next phone through apple as well.
Sent from Joshua’s radical chariot!!!

> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:48 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
> 
> Hi mary, I've purchased phones that are going to be connected to the carrier 
> and I'm also purchased unlocked phones. However, any phones that I've 
> purchased, from Apple directly, I have just done it all unlocked and either 
> put in my Sim card or activated the eSIM. There's not really any parks other 
> than if your phone has any value to it they'll put it towards the cost of the 
> new one. I hope that explains everything.
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:44 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all.
>> I have always gotten my phones through my carrier. This present phone is six 
>> years old, so it’s been a while. I had thought I might switch carriers but I 
>> think we’re going to standpat with what we have on T-Mobile. But as far as I 
>> can see, T-Mobile isn’t really offering me anything useful. I would have to 
>> upgrade to their most expensive plan, which would be really stupid in our 
>> case, since we don’t need or want any of the extras that we would get. so 
>> the question: has anybody purchased a phone through Apple that is going to 
>> be connected with your carrier once you get it? That is not an unlocked 
>> phone. What’s that like as opposed to going through your carrier? I figure 
>> that if I buy it through Apple, at least I can get 5% back via my Apple 
>> card, which beats a blank when you’re talking about 1000 bucks or so.  Mary
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses and minuses

[Joseph Hudson]

Hi mary, I've purchased phones that are going to be connected to the carrier 
and I'm also purchased unlocked phones. However, any phones that I've 
purchased, from Apple directly, I have just done it all unlocked and either put 
in my Sim card or activated the eSIM. There's not really any parks other than 
if your phone has any value to it they'll put it towards the cost of the new 
one. I hope that explains everything.

> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:44 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi all.
> I have always gotten my phones through my carrier. This present phone is six 
> years old, so it’s been a while. I had thought I might switch carriers but I 
> think we’re going to standpat with what we have on T-Mobile. But as far as I 
> can see, T-Mobile isn’t really offering me anything useful. I would have to 
> upgrade to their most expensive plan, which would be really stupid in our 
> case, since we don’t need or want any of the extras that we would get. so the 
> question: has anybody purchased a phone through Apple that is going to be 
> connected with your carrier once you get it? That is not an unlocked phone. 
> What’s that like as opposed to going through your carrier? I figure that if I 
> buy it through Apple, at least I can get 5% back via my Apple card, which 
> beats a blank when you’re talking about 1000 bucks or so.  Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: How to keep voiceover from switching over to my Bluetooth speaker

['Richard Turner' via VIPhone]

First, if you are trying Audio Ducking, try While Speaking, not always.
However, others have had issues with bluetooth speakers in iOS 18.
If you go into your bluetooth settings, and on that speaker, flick up, and 
double tap more info, you can change the type of device.
If it is on Speaker, maybe try a different option knowing that you can always 
go back to whatever it is on now.

HTH,

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Wilson
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 1:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups. com 
Subject: How to keep voiceover from switching over to my Bluetooth speaker

Hello,
I have an iPhone 16 Pro Max and beats pill Bluetooth speaker. When I play music 
on the Bluetooth speaker, VoiceOver speaks through the speaker and not my phone 
as I would like it to do. I have looked through the settings and cannot find a 
way to change this. Does anyone have experience with this issue? I have changed 
audio ducking to always with no effect. Any help would be appreciated.
Suzanne.
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RE: On Device Voice processing Back to Back Requests and other features will download later how to fix?

['Richard Turner' via VIPhone]

OK, that hasn’t happened for me.

I’m on the 16 Pro now, but that shouldn’t matter.

Perhaps call Apple Accessibility if that continues.

 

 

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Amaro
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features will download later how to fix?

 

When trying to use siri

 

From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 12:54 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Subject: RE: On Device Voice processing Back to Back Requests and other 
features will download later how to fix?

 

My first guess is the only fix is to wait for it to do its thing.  But since I 
have never run across this prompt, you may want to give more context of where 
this is happening exactly.

 

 

Richard, USA

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My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: On Device Voice processing Back to Back Requests and other features 
will download later how to fix?

 

Hello Listers,

 

I am running latest iOS on an iPhone sE 2022.  Subjectline says it all how do I 
fix this issue?  Before you ask, I am indeed connected to my wifi.

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Re: On Device Voice processing Back to Back Requests and other features will download later how to fix?

[Michael Amaro]

When trying to use siri


From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 12:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: On Device Voice processing Back to Back Requests and other 
features will download later how to fix?


My first guess is the only fix is to wait for it to do its thing.  But since I 
have never run across this prompt, you may want to give more context of where 
this is happening exactly.

 

 

Richard, USA

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SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"

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My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

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Amaro
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Subject: On Device Voice processing Back to Back Requests and other features 
will download later how to fix?

 

Hello Listers,

 

I am running latest iOS on an iPhone sE 2022.  Subjectline says it all how do I 
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RE: On Device Voice processing Back to Back Requests and other features will download later how to fix?

['Richard Turner' via VIPhone]

My first guess is the only fix is to wait for it to do its thing.  But since I 
have never run across this prompt, you may want to give more context of where 
this is happening exactly.

 

 

Richard, USA

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael 
Amaro
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 12:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: On Device Voice processing Back to Back Requests and other features 
will download later how to fix?

 

Hello Listers,

 

I am running latest iOS on an iPhone sE 2022.  Subjectline says it all how do I 
fix this issue?  Before you ask, I am indeed connected to my wifi.

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RE: Camera Control does a lot, but you can also make it just a simple button

['Richard Turner' via VIPhone]

Yes, it works perfectly for Be My Eyes.

 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 12:42 PM
To: VIPhone via 
Subject: Camera Control does a lot, but you can also make it just a simple 
button

 

 

I don’t have a 16 or a pro yet, but this article seems like a really good idea 
for us. It actually might make that camera button useful for things like 
snapping pictures in Seeing AI. Just press the button instead of finding them 
take picture button on the screen. Camera Control does a lot, but you can also 
make it just a simple button

9to5Mac  /  Ryan Christoffel


  

 

The iPhone 16’s biggest selling point, according to Apple 
 , is 
the forthcoming Apple Intelligence feature set 
 . However, Camera Control has 
to be a close second. The new dedicated camera button 

  packs a lot of functionality, but after a few days with my iPhone 16 Pro, 
I’ve found that I prefer using Camera Control as a simple button. Here’s how 
you, too, can adjust Camera Control to make it simpler and more stripped down.


Early struggles with Camera Control


Camera Control has the unenviable task of providing a lot of camera 
functionality with minimal physical real estate. Most importantly, it has to do 
so in a location that feels good in the hand.

Complicating matters further, Camera Control exists across four different sizes 
of iPhone 16 models, and will be used by tens of millions of different people 
with various hand sizes.

Talk about a tough design challenge.

To make things even more difficult, Camera Control needs to work well when 
taking photos in both landscape and portrait orientation, with one hand or two.

That’s a lot to ask of a button.

Here’s the dilemma I’ve faced in my early use:

*   I take most photos in portrait orientation, with my iPhone vertical
*   And when I hold my iPhone 16 Pro vertically and press Camera Control, I 
find myself constantly adjusting camera settings without intending to

Unfortunately, this is due to a feature, not a bug. 


‘Light press’ isn’t so easy one-handed


Camera Control lets you adjust camera settings 

  with a ‘light press’ of the button. That light press opens your last-used 
setting modifier—whether zoom, exposure, or one of the other options.

I never encounter this issue when taking photos horizontally, because with a 
two-handed grip my Camera Control hand doesn’t need to hold the iPhone as 
tightly.

  

 

But when I’m taking vertical photos with Camera Control, my one-handed grip on 
the iPhone 16 Pro leads me to accidentally trigger settings while trying to 
snap a photo.

There’s an Accessibility tweak that lets you adjust how firm the required 
‘light press’ needs to be. I’ve tried all the options, including the most firm 
one. I still keep triggering settings without meaning to.

What’s wrong with accidentally triggering settings, you ask? Two things:

1.  Once a setting is triggered, the rest of the Camera app’s on-screen 
controls disappear, so I can’t make any adjustments that I might want to.
2.  My finger will often move a tiny bit in the process of taking the 
photo, which means the setting is being adjusted. Zooming unintentionally, 
changing exposure unintentionally, etc.

Maybe in time, the amount of force I use to take photos will change. But I’m 
doubtful.

For now, at least, I’ve been very happy with the solution: disabling the 
light-press functionality altogether.


Making Camera Control a simple button


  

 

Apple provides the option of turning Camera Control into a simple capture 
button. Click to open the Camera, click again to capture a photo. That’s it.

With this approach, you won’t get any of the fancy sliding gesture support for 
customizing your camera’s settings.

But for me, that’s not a problem at all. Simpler is better, especially 
considering the accidental triggers I’ve encountered.

If you’re interested in simplifying Camera Control’s functionality too, it’s 
very easy.

1.  Open the Settings app
2.  Go to Accessibility settings
3.  Open the Camera Control menu in Accessibility
4.  Under the ‘Controls Gesture’

RE: What will Lidar do for me.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

What makes you say this? I see no indication that LiDAR uses up excessive 
amounts of battery capacity especially since the sensor is not used a lot until 
you use particular apps.
I actually think that Voiceover itself does require a certain amount of 
battery, my wife has the exact same iPhone 13 Pro and she uses it a lot and 
while this is strictly observational and not by any means scientific, I have 
often noticed that if we both start out with a full battery in the morning, she 
has more at the end of the day.
 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2024 11:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What will Lidar do for me.

LiDAR is a good thing, but a battery eater. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2024 8:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What will Lidar do for me.

Yes, any Pro or Pro Max phone since the iPhone 12 has LiDAR.

You can’t “activate” it, you can take advantage of it by using apps which use 
it such as Seeing AI as well as the iPhone’s built-in Magnify feature. If you 
open it, tap on “Detection Mode” near the bottom of the screen, you then get 
the following explanation:

 

Detection mode, heading

Point and speak, to use point and speak, point to a specific sectionn of text 
or move your pointer finger around in the camera view. Your iPhone will detect 
the text near  your finger and read this text to you.

Text, use your iPhones camera to hear and read the text detected nearby

People, your iPhone can let you know when it detects people nearby with sound, 
speech and haptic feedback. Feedback will be more frequent if the person is 
closer to you.

Doors, your iPhone can let you know when it detects doors nearby with sound, 
speech and haptic feedback. Feedback will be more frequent if the door is 
closer to you.

Furniture, your iPhone can let you know when it detects furniture nearby with 
sound, speech and haptic feedback. Feedback will be more frequent if the 
furniture is closer to you.

Scenes, scenes provide a live description of the scenes detected in the camera 
view.

All detection modes, double tap the screen with 2 fingers to pause or resume 
detection.

Continue, button

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mohammad 
Fazil
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2024 1:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What will Lidar do for me.

 

Hi, Richard. I have 15 pro, does that mean I already have lider? If yes, how 
can I activate it, please? 

Thanks!

Sent from my iPhone





On Sep 22, 2024, at 12:18 PM, Mr. Ed  wrote:

 

Also, it will tell you exactly how many feet you are away from and air 
tag. As you move closer the feet report changes as you get closer so you can 
find the air tag.

Mr. Ed

 

From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone  
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2024 9:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
    Subject: RE: What will Lidar do for me.

 

HI LIDAR is built-in to the pro models since the 12 pro.

The letters stand for light detection and ranging.

Some apps are using it for object and people detection.  It helps with 
photographs.  The iPhone Magnifier app can use it to detect people, doors, and 
text.

Seeing AI uses it in the World Channel on phones that have it for 
detection of some things.

There is, or was, a free app called Super LIDAR that I have not tried 
for a couple of years, so maybe it has been updated to do more.

 

I’ll paste a link to a Wikipedia article that will tell you far more 
than you want or need to know,.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lidar

 

It may be that app developers will begin taking more advantage of that 
technology, but no one knows for sure.

 

Richard, USA

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Kenny Nead
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2024 6:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: What will Lidar do for me.

 

So how do you get started with LIDAR? Is it an app? Or is it on another 
app? And how do you  start learning what all things that you can do with it?  

From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > 
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: What will L

RE: Looking for Neck Lanyard for iPhone 14 Pro

[James Bentley]

Do you know the brand of your lanyard?  You might be able to go to Amazon and 
find lanyards for different models of I Phones.

James B 


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lisa 
Belville
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2024 8:15 PM
To: V I Phone 
Subject: Looking for Neck Lanyard for iPhone 14 Pro

Hi, all.


I have a very nice silicone lanyard with a neck strap and silicone rings 
that fit on each corner of my old iPhone 12 Pro.  I could use the 
camera, access the buttons and charge the phone while this holder was 
attached.


Unfortunately, it won't work with my iPhone 14 Pro because The corner 
attached to one of the silicone rings blocks the camera.


Does anyone have any recommendations for something I can wear around my 
neck and still use my phone's camera and other ports and buttons?


TIA for the suggestions


Lisa


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Re: iOS 18, iPhone 16 Pro and audio ducking

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can you set the volume over 100%, then it should work. It only worked for me when set to While Speaking.Richard, USA"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." - Jane Wagner from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe.My web site: https://www.turner42.com/Sent from my iPad Mini 6On Sep 23, 2024, at 5:12 PM, Mr. Ed  wrote:Richard,Are you saying ducking only works on the 16 iPhone? I have a 12 pro.Mr. Ed From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brent HardingSent: Sunday, September 22, 2024 6:01 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: iOS 18, iPhone 16 Pro and audio ducking I don’t have a 16 yet, but will shortly after my annual upgrade day comes up with Apple, but I’m on the iOS 18 train. I think they should’ve left the audio ducking the way it used to be. It used to work wherever voiceover was set. Now, if I dictate into Facebook comments, VO gets real loud after I finish, and stays that way until I go out of the FB app.  From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2024 5:52 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: iOS 18, iPhone 16 Pro and audio ducking I just spent some time experimenting with the new audio ducking and volume settings while listening to a football game on SiriusXM.When audio ducking was set to While Speaking, and the volume set to 199, it worked as advertised.  The game was not audible while VO was speaking.If I set audio ducking to Always On, the game sound was very, very quiet, almost like it was coming through the earpiece and not the speaker.Of course, if audio ducking is off, then the game stays at the same volume while VO is speaking. The one place I thought this new feature would work great is during a phone call when dealing with the menus where you must press a number, and it is hard to hear VoiceOver due to the volume of the recording at the business or service you are calling.Sad to say, it seems to have no effect on those phone calls.I tried with all the different settings.  I used NFB Newsline as my test menu.Audio ducking never kicked in no matter the setting. There you have it.   Richard, USA"INTROVERTS UNITE ... SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised My web site: https://www.turner42.com -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/031a01db0d41%24fd8e0520%24f8aa0f60%24%40comcast.net.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/!%26!AAAuAHn2/lkNJrdEsGSRTCafMuYBANlTnCJhprtFudq2LHCBs8EBACQA//8AABBjzxPFimBgT6GPrFCZYLaOAQA%3D%40hostany.net.



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RE: does the new ducking work on IOS 18?

[Mr. Ed]

Hi Sieghard,

I was listing to a radio station and tested all the ducking settings on the 
rotor under ducking. It seemed to me nothing change and voice over never change 
or did the radio station.

Mr. Ed

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2024 7:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: does the new ducking work on IOS 18?

 

Are you playing any music or an audio book while you are doing this? Audio 
ducking does nothing with respect to Voiceover unless something else is playing.

 

 

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Ed
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2024 12:25 PM
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Subject: does the new ducking work on IOS 18?

 

Hi All,

I have turned the rotor to ducking in the rotor and turned my volume up and 
down but I can’t tell that ducking does anything. I tried all the ducking 
choices and move the volume all the way up to 199 and I could not hear any 
different. Can you tell me how this ducking is  supposed to work?

Mr. Ed 

 

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RE: iOS 18, iPhone 16 Pro and audio ducking

[Mr. Ed]

Richard,

Are you saying ducking only works on the 16 iPhone? I have a 12 pro.

Mr. Ed

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brent 
Harding
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Subject: RE: iOS 18, iPhone 16 Pro and audio ducking

 

I don’t have a 16 yet, but will shortly after my annual upgrade day comes up 
with Apple, but I’m on the iOS 18 train. I think they should’ve left the audio 
ducking the way it used to be. It used to work wherever voiceover was set. Now, 
if I dictate into Facebook comments, VO gets real loud after I finish, and 
stays that way until I go out of the FB app.

 

 

From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2024 5:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: iOS 18, iPhone 16 Pro and audio ducking

 

I just spent some time experimenting with the new audio ducking and volume 
settings while listening to a football game on SiriusXM.

When audio ducking was set to While Speaking, and the volume set to 199, it 
worked as advertised.  The game was not audible while VO was speaking.

If I set audio ducking to Always On, the game sound was very, very quiet, 
almost like it was coming through the earpiece and not the speaker.

Of course, if audio ducking is off, then the game stays at the same volume 
while VO is speaking.

 

The one place I thought this new feature would work great is during a phone 
call when dealing with the menus where you must press a number, and it is hard 
to hear VoiceOver due to the volume of the recording at the business or service 
you are calling.

Sad to say, it seems to have no effect on those phone calls.

I tried with all the different settings.  I used NFB Newsline as my test menu.

Audio ducking never kicked in no matter the setting.

 

There you have it.

 

 

 

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Re: Clock question

['Richard Turner' via VIPhone]

Rick, I am not finding it either. I turned it on under WatchOS 10, if not before that. But I don'with find any setting for that in WatchOS 11. Richard, USA"INTROVERTS UNITE ...SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raisedMy web site: https://www.turner42.com(sent from my iPhone 13 pro) On Sep 23, 2024, at 3:39 PM, Rick Alfaro  wrote:On Watch OS11, I can’t seem to get the time to read out without including seconds. I’m sure I’m missing something but haven’t been able to find where to change this. I know there’s a way but can’t recall where this is done. Any answeres appreciated.   Warmest regards, Rick Alfarorick.alf...@gmail.com 



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RE: iOS 18 Touchscreen Issues Reported by Some iPhone Users

[Rick Alfaro]

I was having a lot of trouble until I put my 16 pro into a case. Without a case 
those extended bezels were a real PITA. 

 

 

 

Warmest regards,

 

Rick Alfaro

rick.alf...@gmail.com

 

From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone  
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2024 11:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iOS 18 Touchscreen Issues Reported by Some iPhone Users

 

I have not run into this.

If you have a case on the phone, it is very difficult to accidently touch the 
camera control area as it has an open slot like where the power port is 
located, only longer of course.

When using BE My Eyes a couple of times VO said “camera in use” which I think 
meant I somehow got my finger in that slot, but it didn’t effect my ability to 
touch the screen.

I’ll pay close attention going forward, but this could be one of those isolated 
issues like with the antenna in the iPhone 4 I think it was.

 

 

Richard, USA

"INTROVERTS UNITE ... 

SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"

-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2024 8:08 AM
To: VIPhone via mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: iOS 18 Touchscreen Issues Reported by Some iPhone Users

 

So apparently this problem isn’t just for the pro models. I hope they fix it. 
Is anybody on this list encountered it? I already have enough problems with 
emails I didn’t think I was deleting going away because VoiceOver didn’t update 
right and follow the list of emails correctly. So, this is depressing.

 

iOS 18 Touchscreen Issues Reported by Some iPhone Users

MacRumors: Mac News and Rumors  /  Tim Hardwick

 

Some users of iPhones running iOS 18 are reporting intermittent touchscreen 
responsiveness issues, with some devices seemingly ignoring taps and swipes. 
The problem appears to be affecting various models, including the new iPhone 16 
series, as well as older devices dating back to the iPhone 14.

  
<https://images.macrumors.com/t/aTehUgSmXIuYjKDatbw0rJHvUSY=/400x0/article-new/2024/09/iphone-16-screen-table.jpg?lossy>
 
Users on Reddit have reported 
<https://www.reddit.com/r/iphone/comments/1fmkws1/iphone_16_touch_unresponsive_issue>
  unresponsive areas on the screen, resulting in missed taps, ignored swipes, 
and difficulty scrolling or pressing buttons. This behavior is said to be 
particularly noticeable when interacting with the virtual keyboard, potentially 
leading to typing errors.

9to5Mac 
<https://9to5mac.com/2024/09/22/iphone-16-pro-users-experiencing-touchscreen-issues-some-taps-and-swipes-ignored/>
  was first to highlight the issue. However, while initially it was thought to 
be exclusive to the iPhone 16 Pro models, additional user reports indicate that 
the problem is more widespread and likely software-related. The root cause 
appears to be an overly sensitive touch rejection algorithm in iOS 18, designed 
to ignore accidental touches.

Given that inadvertent contact with the screen edges can trigger the system to 
temporarily ignore all new touches, the thinner bezels on the new iPhone 16 
models may have exacerbated the problem, making it easier for users to 
unintentionally trigger the rejection mechanism when gripping their devices.

The issue seems to occur only when devices are unlocked and in use. Some users 
have reported particular problems around the new Camera Control button, 
although it's unclear if this is directly related or a separate issue.

A demonstration posted on Mastodon 
<https://mastodon.tz.is/@khaost/113178459118083650>  by user Khaos Tian shows 
how the problem can be intentionally triggered, providing further evidence that 
it is software-based. Assuming that is the case, it's likely that Apple can 
address the problem through a future update, but it has yet to comment on the 
matter.



Original Article: 
https://www.macrumors.com/2024/09/23/ios-18-touchscreen-issues-reported/

 

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RE: unable to change the voice or speaking rate in the rotor

[Jessica Barr]

Yes, I did that before I wrote to the list. Thankfully, redownloading the 
voices I wanted in the rotor corrected the problem.
Jessica

- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Date: Sunday, September 22, 2024 08:48 PM
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com" 
Subject: RE: unable to change the voice or speaking rate in the rotor

Did you reboot your phone?
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jessica 
Barr
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2024 8:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: unable to change the voice or speaking rate in the rotor
Hello,
I got my iPhone 16 Pro yesterday. All of the voices I want on the rotor appear 
to be there, but I can't switch between them. Also, when I attempt to increase 
or decrease the speaking rate in the rotor, it says the new rate but nothing 
actually changes. I know I can change it in VoiceOver settings, but only in ten 
percent increments, so I can't change it to 65%, for example. Is anyone else 
experiencing this?
Jessica
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RE: iOS 18 Touchscreen Issues Reported by Some iPhone Users

[Jessica Barr]

I haven't run into this either.
Jessica

- Original Message -
From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
Date: Monday, September 23, 2024 11:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iOS 18 Touchscreen Issues Reported by Some iPhone Users

I have not run into this.
If you have a case on the phone, it is very difficult to accidently touch the 
camera control area as it has an open slot like where the power port is 
located, only longer of course.
When using BE My Eyes a couple of times VO said "camera in use" which I think 
meant I somehow got my finger in that slot, but it didn't effect my ability to 
touch the screen.
I'll pay close attention going forward, but this could be one of those isolated 
issues like with the antenna in the iPhone 4 I think it was.
 
 
Richard, USA
"INTROVERTS UNITE ... 
SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised
 
My web site: https://www.turner42.com
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2024 8:08 AM
To: VIPhone via 
Subject: iOS 18 Touchscreen Issues Reported by Some iPhone Users
 
So apparently this problem isn't just for the pro models. I hope they fix it. 
Is anybody on this list encountered it? I already have enough problems with 
emails I didn't think I was deleting going away because VoiceOver didn't update 
right and follow the list of emails correctly. So, this is depressing.
 
iOS 18 Touchscreen Issues Reported by Some iPhone Users
MacRumors: Mac News and Rumors  /  Tim Hardwick


Some users of iPhones running iOS 18 are reporting intermittent touchscreen 
responsiveness issues, with some devices seemingly ignoring taps and swipes. 
The problem appears to be affecting various models, including the new iPhone 16 
series, as well as older devices dating back to the iPhone 14.
  
<https://images.macrumors.com/t/aTehUgSmXIuYjKDatbw0rJHvUSY=/400x0/article-new/2024/09/iphone-16-screen-table.jpg?lossy>
 
Users on Reddit have reported 
<https://www.reddit.com/r/iphone/comments/1fmkws1/iphone_16_touch_unresponsive_issue>
  unresponsive areas on the screen, resulting in missed taps, ignored swipes, 
and difficulty scrolling or pressing buttons. This behavior is said to be 
particularly noticeable when interacting with the virtual keyboard, potentially 
leading to typing errors.
9to5Mac 
<https://9to5mac.com/2024/09/22/iphone-16-pro-users-experiencing-touchscreen-issues-some-taps-and-swipes-ignored/>
  was first to highlight the issue. However, while initially it was thought to 
be exclusive to the iPhone 16 Pro models, additional user reports indicate that 
the problem is more widespread and likely software-related. The root cause 
appears to be an overly sensitive touch rejection algorithm in iOS 18, designed 
to ignore accidental touches.
Given that inadvertent contact with the screen edges can trigger the system to 
temporarily ignore all new touches, the thinner bezels on the new iPhone 16 
models may have exacerbated the problem, making it easier for users to 
unintentionally trigger the rejection mechanism when gripping their devices.
The issue seems to occur only when devices are unlocked and in use. Some users 
have reported particular problems around the new Camera Control button, 
although it's unclear if this is directly related or a separate issue.
A demonstration posted on Mastodon 
<https://mastodon.tz.is/@khaost/113178459118083650>  by user Khaos Tian shows 
how the problem can be intentionally triggered, providing further evidence that 
it is software-based. Assuming that is the case, it's likely that Apple can 
address the problem through a future update, but it has yet to comment on the 
matter.

Original Article: 
https://www.macrumors.com/2024/09/23/ios-18-touchscreen-issues-reported/
 
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RE: Question, how do I get Living Blindfully 300 on my Victor Stream?

[Carolyn Arnold]

That is what I have heard now, that it was not available there. It is way more 
convenient to read it on my Victor than my computer, but in this case, it is 
like saying, it would be way more convenient if I could see, LOL! 

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donmoor...@gmail.com
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Suggestion that you ask on the victor stream list?  I think I saw where he was 
shutting it down though.

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Arnold
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2024 2:06 PM
To: viPhone 
Subject: Question, how do I get Living Blindfully 300 on my Victor Stream?

The subject says it all. I tried to get it, was told it could not be found. 
Thanks for any help. 

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Re: How can I delete photos and videos from my iPhone SE2?

['Richard Turner' via VIPhone]

There is no library tab in 18, but Margaret has 17.6.1 which is what I was 
asking about. But, she got it sorted, so that is no longer relavent.



Richard, USA
"INTROVERTS UNITE ...
SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

(sent from my iPhone 13 pro) 


> On Sep 23, 2024, at 10:12 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> No moore Library tab, but the "Select" button is still there.
> The Photos library is now organized by headings, by default I believe "Recent 
> Photos" is always at the top, but you can go to the very biottom with a 
> 4-finger tap near the bottom of the screen and then swipe left and go into 
> Customize and change the order of the different sections. Here is what I have 
> on my phone:
> 
> At the very top left it says "Photos, 524 items"
> Swipe right and you get "Search", "Select" and "Profile" which also is at the 
> very top right.
> Profile allows you to adjust various options for the Photos app such as 
> showing new hidden folder, featured items, People and Animals or Holiday 
> pictures etc. It is also where you would set up shared albums etc.
> After I swipe right from Profile, I again hear "524 items", and if I swipe 
> right again, I am on my first photo or of course this could be a video 
> depending on what you have.
> For me this is a video from March 4th, I am not entirely sure what time frame 
> is displayed here.
> Now for navigation you can turn the rotor to headings, if I do this and swipe 
> down I have the following:
> 
> Recent Days
> People and Pets
> Pinned Collections
> Memories
> Trips
> Featured Photos
> Media Types
> Utilities
> A;lbums
> Shared Albums
> Wallpaper Suggestions
> 
> Most of these headings say "Forward, button", for example, Trips, Forward, 
> Button", you can tap on any of these, if I do so on Trips, I get "All", 
> "2024", "2023", "2022", 2019", "2017" and "2016".
> After the years which, by the way, all are "switch buttons" which you can 
> turn on or off so this means you display "All" or pictures from a specific 
> year or place. After the years, you find locations, for me things like 
> "Toronto", "Philippines", Puerto Gallera, Pink Mountain etc., I assume these 
> would be locations saved via the GPS feature with your photos.
> 
> Under Media types you find of course things like Videos, Selfis, Screenshots 
> and so on.
> Things like Hidden Albums, Illustrations, Documents, Receipts, Recently 
> Saved, Recently Deleted etc.
> For whatever reason if yiou swipe right from the "Utilities heading", it 
> sometimes seems to skip something and I had to swipe right and then left for 
> example to find Recently deleted.
> 
> I am far from being familiar with all the new features and ways you can 
> customize Photos, but all in all I do find it fairly easy to find anything 
> recent and of course the search button at the top also gives you some good 
> options since AI is used for the searches and you can also ask Siri, for 
> example, to show you all your pet photos or pictures with water activities 
> etc.
> As for "People" you would I think need sighted help as you have to associate 
> names with people in pictures, but once done, you could then ask to find 
> "pictures of John".
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
> Sent: Monday, September 23, 2024 9:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: How can I delete photos and videos from my iPhone SE2?
> 
> Is there still a library tab at the bottom of the photos app?
> 
> If so, double tap that.
> Then, check the upper left corner and there should be a select button.
> Double tap that, and I don't know if there is a select all, but you can 
> double tap on each photo you want deleted and then there will be a delete 
> button, probably at the bottom.
> Once you have deleted those, there should be a deleted photos button, and you 
> can open it with a double tap and select all of those and delete them 
> permanently.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Richard, USA
> "INTROVERTS UNITE ...
> SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
> -- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Margaret Thomas
> Sent: Monday, September 23, 2024 9:36 AM
> To: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
> Subject: Re: How can I delete photos and videos from my iPhone SE2?
>

RE: Question, how do I get Living Blindfully 300 on my Victor Stream?

[donmoore48]

Suggestion that you ask on the victor stream list?  I think I saw where he was 
shutting it down though.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2024 2:06 PM
To: viPhone 
Subject: Question, how do I get Living Blindfully 300 on my Victor Stream?

The subject says it all. I tried to get it, was told it could not be found. 
Thanks for any help. 

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RE: What will Lidar do for me.

[Carolyn Arnold]

LiDAR is a good thing, but a battery eater. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2024 8:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What will Lidar do for me.

Yes, any Pro or Pro Max phone since the iPhone 12 has LiDAR.

You can’t “activate” it, you can take advantage of it by using apps which use 
it such as Seeing AI as well as the iPhone’s built-in Magnify feature. If you 
open it, tap on “Detection Mode” near the bottom of the screen, you then get 
the following explanation:

 

Detection mode, heading

Point and speak, to use point and speak, point to a specific sectionn of text 
or move your pointer finger around in the camera view. Your iPhone will detect 
the text near  your finger and read this text to you.

Text, use your iPhones camera to hear and read the text detected nearby

People, your iPhone can let you know when it detects people nearby with sound, 
speech and haptic feedback. Feedback will be more frequent if the person is 
closer to you.

Doors, your iPhone can let you know when it detects doors nearby with sound, 
speech and haptic feedback. Feedback will be more frequent if the door is 
closer to you.

Furniture, your iPhone can let you know when it detects furniture nearby with 
sound, speech and haptic feedback. Feedback will be more frequent if the 
furniture is closer to you.

Scenes, scenes provide a live description of the scenes detected in the camera 
view.

All detection modes, double tap the screen with 2 fingers to pause or resume 
detection.

Continue, button

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mohammad 
Fazil
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2024 1:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What will Lidar do for me.

 

Hi, Richard. I have 15 pro, does that mean I already have lider? If yes, how 
can I activate it, please? 

Thanks!

Sent from my iPhone





On Sep 22, 2024, at 12:18 PM, Mr. Ed  wrote:

 

Also, it will tell you exactly how many feet you are away from and air 
tag. As you move closer the feet report changes as you get closer so you can 
find the air tag.

Mr. Ed

 

From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone  
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2024 9:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
    Subject: RE: What will Lidar do for me.

 

HI LIDAR is built-in to the pro models since the 12 pro.

The letters stand for light detection and ranging.

Some apps are using it for object and people detection.  It helps with 
photographs.  The iPhone Magnifier app can use it to detect people, doors, and 
text.

Seeing AI uses it in the World Channel on phones that have it for 
detection of some things.

There is, or was, a free app called Super LIDAR that I have not tried 
for a couple of years, so maybe it has been updated to do more.

 

I’ll paste a link to a Wikipedia article that will tell you far more 
than you want or need to know,.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lidar

 

It may be that app developers will begin taking more advantage of that 
technology, but no one knows for sure.

 

Richard, USA

"INTROVERTS UNITE ... 

SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"

-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Kenny Nead
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2024 6:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: What will Lidar do for me.

 

So how do you get started with LIDAR? Is it an app? Or is it on another 
app? And how do you  start learning what all things that you can do with it?  

From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2024 11:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: What will Lidar do for me.

 

LIDAR, which you spelled correctly, has one feature that is clearly 
intended to help visually impaired and it will take the app developers to 
really leverage it in more ways.  Some are trying to, like Seeing AI’s World 
channel that tries to identify objects and tell you how far away they are, etc.

Here is a list I grabbed from Copilot, number 3 is Door Detection that 
is really useful in unfamiliar buildings. 

 

1.  Sharper Photos: LiDAR helps the camera capture sharper photos, 
especially in low-light conditions. So, your nighttime shots will look even 
better! 🌙📸

2. Augmented Reality (AR): LiDAR enables AR experie

RE: iOS 18 Brings Much Needed Features to Journal App, 9 to 5 Mac

[Carolyn Arnold]

Speaking of Health, I need to edit something. I have tried in Settings and just 
going into Health from the Home Page, but no success so far. Thanks for any 
help. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2024 8:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iOS 18 Brings Much Needed Features to Journal App, 9 to 5 Mac

Yes, I meant to correct myself. The metrics and interaction with the Health app 
are new, but they weren’t that important to me. I shouldn’t have assumed that 
others wouldn’t have found them important.

 

I could have sworn there was already a search option, but I can’t check now. 
This is a big deal.

 

Another thing I noticed, which doesn’t seem like a big deal, but it is 
important to my perfectionist self, is that when you set the date to the 
moment, it uses the time of the moment as well and not the moment date with the 
current time.

 

--

Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷

Chaltain at Outlook, USA

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2024 7:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iOS 18 Brings Much Needed Features to Journal App, 9 to 5 Mac

 

I don’t recall that there was a sjejarch function or the insights thing where 
you see how nany days you have Journal entries for, how many words and all that.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2024 5:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: iOS 18 Brings Much Needed Features to Journal App, 9 to 5 Mac

 

I was excited when I saw this email in my inbox, but when I read it, I didn’t 
see anything that wasn’t already in the Journal app before I upgraded to IOS 18.

 

--

Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷

Chaltain at Outlook, USA

 

From: VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2024 7:38 PM
To: VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: iOS 18 Brings Much Needed Features to Journal App, 9 to 5 Mac

 

9 to 5 Mac - Thursday, September 19, 2024

Last year, Apple introduced its brand new Journal App alongside its iOS 17.2 
update. It was a very basic app with one real function: inputting journal 
entries in chronological order. While customers welcomed the new free app, many 
pretty basic features were missing. There was no search functionality, no 
password protection, and no additional insights that could be seen. Just one 
continuous feed for your journal entries. But, it looks as though Apple 
listened to our feedback and added a few new features to the iOS 18 version of 
the Journal App. Here are all the changes you can use today!

Be sure to check out our hands-on video below to see all these changes in 
action.
1.
Search
This was the one feature Apple omitted from their initial Journal App release 
that annoyed me a bit. I know people who journal multiple times a day. So if 
you had 100s of journal entries, there was no way to quickly look up one that 
you wrote in the past. You would have to endlessly scroll through your feed 
attempting to find your three-month-old entry. This was a big turn-off for many 
digital journalers. One of the best parts of journaling is being able to go 
back later and reflect on past entries. The fact that there was no search 
function really made that tough to do.
So the first thing Apple did was add a search function that persists on the top 
right corner. You can search based on media type, text that was written, dates, 
activities and pretty much anything that has something to do with a post. This 
makes management and navigation of the entire app much better.
 
2.
Insights
The next feature Apple added was the insights feature. This is my absolute 
favorite new feature. This essentially gamifies the journal entry process but 
giving you all the data you want to know about your journaling. You can see:
• Number of entries
• Words written
• Daily and weekly streaks
• Calendar view
• Visited locations
• Media types journaled
Apple really doubled down on this because the very first thing you see when you 
open the app is an info bar at the top that gives you some insights into your 
journaling at a glance. They also added a much more robust page view of your 
insights that gives you all the metrics listed above. Not only that, but they 
also allow you to expand on each one of the insight cards to get an even better 
look at each statistic. All in all, a very welcome update to the Journal App.
 
3.
Locking Journal App
iOS 18 gave users the ability to hide and password-protect individual apps. Be 
sure to watch our walkthroughs here to see how that is done. But on top of this 
new feature, Apple gave us the abili

Re: How can I delete photos and videos from my iPhone SE2?

[Margaret Thomas]

Thanks, Richard and Sieghard.  The 4 photos are out of the photo app. 
Backing up and iCloud will require a break and caffeine.


Margaret


On 9/23/2024 1:12 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

No moore Library tab, but the "Select" button is still there.
The Photos library is now organized by headings, by default I believe "Recent 
Photos" is always at the top, but you can go to the very biottom with a 4-finger tap 
near the bottom of the screen and then swipe left and go into Customize and change the 
order of the different sections. Here is what I have on my phone:

At the very top left it says "Photos, 524 items"
Swipe right and you get "Search", "Select" and "Profile" which also is at the 
very top right.
Profile allows you to adjust various options for the Photos app such as showing 
new hidden folder, featured items, People and Animals or Holiday pictures etc. 
It is also where you would set up shared albums etc.
After I swipe right from Profile, I again hear "524 items", and if I swipe 
right again, I am on my first photo or of course this could be a video depending on what 
you have.
For me this is a video from March 4th, I am not entirely sure what time frame 
is displayed here.
Now for navigation you can turn the rotor to headings, if I do this and swipe 
down I have the following:

Recent Days
People and Pets
Pinned Collections
Memories
Trips
Featured Photos
Media Types
Utilities
A;lbums
Shared Albums
Wallpaper Suggestions

Most of these headings say "Forward, button", for example, Trips, Forward, Button", you can tap on any of these, if I do so on Trips, I get 
"All", "2024", "2023", "2022", 2019", "2017" and "2016".
After the years which, by the way, all are "switch buttons" which you can turn on or off so this means you 
display "All" or pictures from a specific year or place. After the years, you find locations, for me things 
like "Toronto", "Philippines", Puerto Gallera, Pink Mountain etc., I assume these would be 
locations saved via the GPS feature with your photos.

Under Media types you find of course things like Videos, Selfis, Screenshots 
and so on.
Things like Hidden Albums, Illustrations, Documents, Receipts, Recently Saved, 
Recently Deleted etc.
For whatever reason if yiou swipe right from the "Utilities heading", it 
sometimes seems to skip something and I had to swipe right and then left for example to 
find Recently deleted.

I am far from being familiar with all the new features and ways you can 
customize Photos, but all in all I do find it fairly easy to find anything 
recent and of course the search button at the top also gives you some good 
options since AI is used for the searches and you can also ask Siri, for 
example, to show you all your pet photos or pictures with water activities etc.
As for "People" you would I think need sighted help as you have to associate names with 
people in pictures, but once done, you could then ask to find "pictures of John".


-Original Message-
From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2024 9:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How can I delete photos and videos from my iPhone SE2?

Is there still a library tab at the bottom of the photos app?

If so, double tap that.
Then, check the upper left corner and there should be a select button.
Double tap that, and I don't know if there is a select all, but you can double 
tap on each photo you want deleted and then there will be a delete button, 
probably at the bottom.
Once you have deleted those, there should be a deleted photos button, and you 
can open it with a double tap and select all of those and delete them 
permanently.

HTH,

Richard, USA
"INTROVERTS UNITE ...
SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Margaret 
Thomas
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2024 9:36 AM
To: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
Subject: Re: How can I delete photos and videos from my iPhone SE2?

I'm running IOS 17.6.1 on an SE 2 and want to back up so I can try IOS 18

Margaret.

On 9/23/2024 9:38 AM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone wrote:

Have you updated to iOS 18?

If not, which iOS are you using?

I ask because iOS 18 seems quite different in the photos app.

Richard, USA
"INTROVERTS UNITE ...
SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Margaret Thomas
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2024 5:25 AM
To: V iPhone list 
Subject: Re: How can I delete photos and videos from my iPhone SE2?

Good Morning:

Is the deleted ph

Re: [External] RE: TuneIn Radio and iOS

[William Outman]

The best way to find college games in Sirius-XM would be to search for the 
school you are interested in. If you want it at hand regularly, try putting it 
in your library as you would do with a professional team. 
Bill 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 23, 2024, at 10:43 AM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> tuneIN radio also carries college football by team, so you can listen to 
> pretty much any teams broadcast.
> Their search feature works well for this.
> 
> 
> Richard, USA
> "INTROVERTS UNITE ...
> SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
> -- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mario 
> Eiland
> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2024 6:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: [External] RE: TuneIn Radio and iOS
> 
> Are you referring to the SiriusXM app? All the college games begin at channel 
> 952.
> Channel 371 is ACC
> Channel 372 is big 10
> Channel 374 is SEC
> Channel 375 is Big 12
> 
> My wife and I  like to follow mainly ACC and SEC. However, we do drift to 
> other conferences during the big tournaments.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Cook, Steve' via VIPhone 
> Sent: Monday, September 16, 2024 11:14 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: [External] RE: TuneIn Radio and iOS
> 
> I wish Sirius had college football, then that would be my perfect sports app!
> 
> Thank You,
> Steve Cook, CPM
> Statewide Services Manager
> Assistive Technology Consultant
> SC Commission for the Blind
> 1430 Confederate Avenue
> Columbia, SC 29201
> Office: (803) 898-8788
> Cell: (803) 908-3856
> Email: steve.c...@sccb.sc.gov
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
> Sent: Monday, September 16, 2024 12:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [External] RE: TuneIn Radio and iOS
> 
> I got a deal for $4.99 a month a few years ago and unless I cancel, that 
> price will remain the same.
> 
> I originally got it because of the NFL, since I already had the MLB At Bat 
> app, but the next year the NFL was dropped.  I've kept the premium though for 
> other things and that price is too good.
> 
> I also got Sirius XM for the NFL at a discount, when that year ran out, I 
> cancelled because it isn't worth it to me to spend 11 or 12 per month on it.
> Then, I got an offer this summer for Sirius XM for $4 plus a few pennies a 
> month for a year, just in time tfor the NFL season, so I took it.
> When it runs out I will cancel it and wait to see if they offer another 
> deal...
> 
> 
> Richard, USA
> "INTROVERTS UNITE ...
> SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
> -- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Evan 
> Reese
> Sent: Monday, September 16, 2024 9:35 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: TuneIn Radio and iOS
> 
> I've been using it since June of 2023 and my price hasn't changed from
> $7.99 a month.
> 
> Evan
> 
> 
>> On 9/16/2024 12:27 PM, Mario Eiland wrote:
>> The only reason I paid for premium was to get to listen to my sports, but 
>> then they cranked up the subscription prices and I moved on to using 
>> SiriusXM. I'm not sure what other benefits you will get. Perhaps less ads.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Traci 
>> Duncan
>> Sent: Monday, September 16, 2024 8:33 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: TuneIn Radio and iOS
>> 
>> Hi all, I see that there are three different versions of TuneIn. TuneIn 
>> free, TuneIn premium, and a separate app TuneIn pro, which can also include 
>> premium for an additional subscription.
>> 
>> What are your thoughts and experiences with these various apps? Also, is 
>> premium available on the smart speakers? I have been getting emails lately 
>> for huge discounts. At first it was 50% off, now it is 70% off! I am 
>> tempted. :-)
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> Traci
>> 
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RE: Walmart

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Well said Christopher, I was very tempted to address such a racist post in more 
detail, but then I think there is little point. Mich apparently has his 
unfortunate views and as much as I may not like them, he’s entitled to them.
They do, however, have no place on this list and I wonder whether one day he’ll 
be grateful to the Filipina or Indian nurse who has to wipe his butt whenever 
he is older and ends up in a nursing home where most “white people” may not 
want to work.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2024 10:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Walmart

I’ll bet “Apu”  has better English language grammar skills though…


Cristóbal

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2024 9:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Walmart

Maybe you should apply for a job with Walmart then.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
mi...@eastlink.ca<mailto:mi...@eastlink.ca>
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2024 8:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Walmart

Hi yes I know and I wish that they would higher white people or at the verry 
least people who know how to speek proper english people who don’t sound like 
apoo from the quicky mart to deal with these ishues. I agree they really need 
to do better with these ishues and I agree they are just paying lip service to 
us and not takeing us seriously. From Mich.

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Jenny 
Bomareto
Sent: September 23, 2024 10:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Walmart

I've talked to someone twice today.  You know how they always say there very 
for this inconvenience.  However I feel they are just playing games with us.  I 
told the last customer service if you really cared about your customers like 
you say you do, you'd give us a phone number to call to speak with the 
developers of the website and the app.  ow the last person I spoke with said we 
can go to walmart.corporate.com and fill out a form.  And also how they always 
say they are going to send the complaint and I feel they are playing games on 
that one as well.  I also told the people I talked to that theyre's no excuse 
for this and it's mandatory this gets fixed and should be working at all times 
so we don't have these difficulties.
Thanks for reading regarding this matter.
Jenny Bomareto

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Re: How can I delete photos and videos from my iPhone SE2?

[Margaret Thomas]

I opened the photos app; double tapped on select on the right side;  and 
corner; swiped right
 through the items and double tapped select on the ones I want to 
delete; double tapped on delete on the lower right.  VO said 4 items 
selected These photos will be deleted from iCloud photos on all your 
devices.  They will be in recently deleted for 30 days.  Delete 4 photos 
button.


The photos were all mistakes and I don't know how they got there.  I 
only have minimum iCloud storage and I would rather not have them taking 
up room anywhere.  I think it is in messages where you have to leave a 
message to be able to double tap on recently deleted to be able to 
permanently delete messages.  I was asking if it is the same with the 
photos app.  Running IOS 17.6.1. Sorry for not being clear.


Many thanks,

Margaret

On 9/23/2024 12:36 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Just to clarify, are your 4 photos already deleted and you simply want to 
delete them from the deleted photos or are they still on your iPhone and you 
want to just delete them from Photos?
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Margaret 
Thomas
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2024 5:25 AM
To: V iPhone list 
Subject: Re: How can I delete photos and videos from my iPhone SE2?

Good Morning:

Is the deleted photos will be in recently deleted for 30 days message like I 
believe it is in messages that there has to be a photo remaining to get into 
recently deleted?  I want to back up my SE 2 and have no need or desire for 
these 4 photos on my phone or on iCloud.

Many thanks,

Margaret



On 5/23/2022 10:52 AM, Malcolm Parfitt wrote:

Yes, you do not need to open Settings.  All your videos and photos can
be managed via the Photos App.

As I said, open the Photos App.  At the top towards the right of your
phone you should find a Select Button.  Double tap this.

Now swipe right through the photos and videos on your phone.  When you
find one you want to delete double tap it to select.  Voiceover should
tell you the item has been selected.  Repeats this process until you
have selected all the items you want to delete.

Now at the bottom of your screen on the right hand side should be a
Delete Button.  Double tap and you may have a confirmatory prompt,
double tap to confirm and your photos and or videos you selected are
deleted.

Malcolm Parfitt


On 23 May 2022, at 15:35, mi...@eastlink.ca wrote:



Hi I also would like to know this as well. Sadley a lot of the photos
that I have I don’t have them captiond since I have found that when I
caption a photo it will sadley caption the wrong photo or there is a
bug in how photos work in ios. I also would like to know where the
storage feture is in ios? And if some one knows how to get around
this hole caption thing and making the captions stick and not having
them go to different photos etc? many thanks. From Mich.

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf
Of *Rena
*Sent:* May 23, 2022 10:22 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: How can I delete photos and videos from my iPhone SE2?

Does it mean that I don’t have to open storage to delete photos?

What about videos? Do I have a video app?

Rena

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> *On
Behalf Of *Malcolm Parfitt
*Sent:* Sunday, May 22, 2022 4:23 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:* Re: How can I delete photos and videos from my iPhone SE2?

Launch the Photos app and at the top of the screen you should have a
Select Button.  Double tap this.

Now swipe through your photos and videos and double tap the ones you
no longer want to keep.  As you double tap then their status should
be announced as selected.  Once you have selected the items for
deletion towards the bottom right you should find a Delete Button.
Double tap this to delete the items you have selected.

Malcolm Parfitt

 On 22 May 2022, at 21:06, Rena mailto:onyxfran...@gmail.com>> wrote:

 

 Hi,

 I went to storage, but I was confused and I didn’t dare to delete
 anything. I don’t want to delete any app, but only photos and videos.

 Please, explain how can delete videos and photos.

 Thanks,

 Rena

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RE: How can I delete photos and videos from my iPhone SE2?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

No moore Library tab, but the "Select" button is still there.
The Photos library is now organized by headings, by default I believe "Recent 
Photos" is always at the top, but you can go to the very biottom with a 
4-finger tap near the bottom of the screen and then swipe left and go into 
Customize and change the order of the different sections. Here is what I have 
on my phone:

At the very top left it says "Photos, 524 items"
Swipe right and you get "Search", "Select" and "Profile" which also is at the 
very top right.
Profile allows you to adjust various options for the Photos app such as showing 
new hidden folder, featured items, People and Animals or Holiday pictures etc. 
It is also where you would set up shared albums etc.
After I swipe right from Profile, I again hear "524 items", and if I swipe 
right again, I am on my first photo or of course this could be a video 
depending on what you have.
For me this is a video from March 4th, I am not entirely sure what time frame 
is displayed here.
Now for navigation you can turn the rotor to headings, if I do this and swipe 
down I have the following:

Recent Days
People and Pets
Pinned Collections
Memories
Trips
Featured Photos
Media Types
Utilities
A;lbums
Shared Albums
Wallpaper Suggestions

Most of these headings say "Forward, button", for example, Trips, Forward, 
Button", you can tap on any of these, if I do so on Trips, I get "All", "2024", 
"2023", "2022", 2019", "2017" and "2016".
After the years which, by the way, all are "switch buttons" which you can turn 
on or off so this means you display "All" or pictures from a specific year or 
place. After the years, you find locations, for me things like "Toronto", 
"Philippines", Puerto Gallera, Pink Mountain etc., I assume these would be 
locations saved via the GPS feature with your photos.

Under Media types you find of course things like Videos, Selfis, Screenshots 
and so on.
Things like Hidden Albums, Illustrations, Documents, Receipts, Recently Saved, 
Recently Deleted etc.
For whatever reason if yiou swipe right from the "Utilities heading", it 
sometimes seems to skip something and I had to swipe right and then left for 
example to find Recently deleted.

I am far from being familiar with all the new features and ways you can 
customize Photos, but all in all I do find it fairly easy to find anything 
recent and of course the search button at the top also gives you some good 
options since AI is used for the searches and you can also ask Siri, for 
example, to show you all your pet photos or pictures with water activities etc.
As for "People" you would I think need sighted help as you have to associate 
names with people in pictures, but once done, you could then ask to find 
"pictures of John".


-Original Message-
From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone  
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2024 9:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How can I delete photos and videos from my iPhone SE2?

Is there still a library tab at the bottom of the photos app?

If so, double tap that.
Then, check the upper left corner and there should be a select button.
Double tap that, and I don't know if there is a select all, but you can double 
tap on each photo you want deleted and then there will be a delete button, 
probably at the bottom.
Once you have deleted those, there should be a deleted photos button, and you 
can open it with a double tap and select all of those and delete them 
permanently.

HTH,

Richard, USA
"INTROVERTS UNITE ... 
SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Margaret 
Thomas
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2024 9:36 AM
To: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
Subject: Re: How can I delete photos and videos from my iPhone SE2?

I'm running IOS 17.6.1 on an SE 2 and want to back up so I can try IOS 18

Margaret.

On 9/23/2024 9:38 AM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone wrote:
> Have you updated to iOS 18?
> 
> If not, which iOS are you using?
> 
> I ask because iOS 18 seems quite different in the photos app.
> 
> Richard, USA
> "INTROVERTS UNITE ...
> SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
> -- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Margaret Thomas
> Sent: Monday, September 23, 2024 5:25 AM
> To: V iPhone list 
> Subject: Re: How can I delete photos and videos from my iPhone SE2?
> 
> Good Morning:
> 
> Is the deleted photos will be in recently deleted for 30 days message like I 
>

RE: Walmart

[Cristóbal Muñoz]

I’ll bet “Apu”  has better English language grammar skills though… 
 
 
Cristóbal
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2024 9:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Walmart
 
Maybe you should apply for a job with Walmart then.
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
mi...@eastlink.ca <mailto:mi...@eastlink.ca> 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2024 8:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Walmart
 
Hi yes I know and I wish that they would higher white people or at the verry 
least people who know how to speek proper english people who don’t sound like 
apoo from the quicky mart to deal with these ishues. I agree they really need 
to do better with these ishues and I agree they are just paying lip service to 
us and not takeing us seriously. From Mich.
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Jenny Bomareto
Sent: September 23, 2024 10:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Walmart
 
I've talked to someone twice today.  You know how they always say there very 
for this inconvenience.  However I feel they are just playing games with us.  I 
told the last customer service if you really cared about your customers like 
you say you do, you'd give us a phone number to call to speak with the 
developers of the website and the app.  ow the last person I spoke with said we 
can go to walmart.corporate.com and fill out a form.  And also how they always 
say they are going to send the complaint and I feel they are playing games on 
that one as well.  I also told the people I talked to that theyre's no excuse 
for this and it's mandatory this gets fixed and should be working at all times 
so we don't have these difficulties.
Thanks for reading regarding this matter.
Jenny Bomareto

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RE: Walmart

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And what do you think the Walmart phone centre people can do being paid a 
pittens and given a strict format to follow. It’s not the person you speak with 
who says they care about customer service, that comes straight from the 
marketing executives. If you want better service support smaller local 
businesses and not the huge multi-national corporations. Oh, right, then of 
course you can’t buy a T-Shirt for $4.99 any more which was made by a 10-year 
old in Bangladesh whose parents burned up in the last factory fire. The people 
who answer the phones have just as much access to a phone number for the 
website developers as you, so don’t get mad at them.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jenny 
Bomareto
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2024 7:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Walmart

I've talked to someone twice today.  You know how they always say there very 
for this inconvenience.  However I feel they are just playing games with us.  I 
told the last customer service if you really cared about your customers like 
you say you do, you'd give us a phone number to call to speak with the 
developers of the website and the app.  ow the last person I spoke with said we 
can go to walmart.corporate.com and fill out a form.  And also how they always 
say they are going to send the complaint and I feel they are playing games on 
that one as well.  I also told the people I talked to that theyre's no excuse 
for this and it's mandatory this gets fixed and should be working at all times 
so we don't have these difficulties.
Thanks for reading regarding this matter.
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RE: Walmart

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Maybe you should apply for a job with Walmart then.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
mi...@eastlink.ca
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Subject: RE: Walmart

Hi yes I know and I wish that they would higher white people or at the verry 
least people who know how to speek proper english people who don’t sound like 
apoo from the quicky mart to deal with these ishues. I agree they really need 
to do better with these ishues and I agree they are just paying lip service to 
us and not takeing us seriously. From Mich.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jenny 
Bomareto
Sent: September 23, 2024 10:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Walmart

I've talked to someone twice today.  You know how they always say there very 
for this inconvenience.  However I feel they are just playing games with us.  I 
told the last customer service if you really cared about your customers like 
you say you do, you'd give us a phone number to call to speak with the 
developers of the website and the app.  ow the last person I spoke with said we 
can go to walmart.corporate.com and fill out a form.  And also how they always 
say they are going to send the complaint and I feel they are playing games on 
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Thanks for reading regarding this matter.
Jenny Bomareto

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RE: How can I delete photos and videos from my iPhone SE2?

['Richard Turner' via VIPhone]

Is there still a library tab at the bottom of the photos app?

If so, double tap that.
Then, check the upper left corner and there should be a select button.
Double tap that, and I don't know if there is a select all, but you can double 
tap on each photo you want deleted and then there will be a delete button, 
probably at the bottom.
Once you have deleted those, there should be a deleted photos button, and you 
can open it with a double tap and select all of those and delete them 
permanently.

HTH,

Richard, USA
"INTROVERTS UNITE ... 
SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Margaret 
Thomas
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2024 9:36 AM
To: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
Subject: Re: How can I delete photos and videos from my iPhone SE2?

I'm running IOS 17.6.1 on an SE 2 and want to back up so I can try IOS 18

Margaret.

On 9/23/2024 9:38 AM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone wrote:
> Have you updated to iOS 18?
> 
> If not, which iOS are you using?
> 
> I ask because iOS 18 seems quite different in the photos app.
> 
> Richard, USA
> "INTROVERTS UNITE ...
> SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
> -- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Margaret Thomas
> Sent: Monday, September 23, 2024 5:25 AM
> To: V iPhone list 
> Subject: Re: How can I delete photos and videos from my iPhone SE2?
> 
> Good Morning:
> 
> Is the deleted photos will be in recently deleted for 30 days message like I 
> believe it is in messages that there has to be a photo remaining to get into 
> recently deleted?  I want to back up my SE 2 and have no need or desire for 
> these 4 photos on my phone or on iCloud.
> 
> Many thanks,
> 
> Margaret
> 
> 
> 
> On 5/23/2022 10:52 AM, Malcolm Parfitt wrote:
>> Yes, you do not need to open Settings.  All your videos and photos 
>> can be managed via the Photos App.
>>
>> As I said, open the Photos App.  At the top towards the right of your 
>> phone you should find a Select Button.  Double tap this.
>>
>> Now swipe right through the photos and videos on your phone.  When 
>> you find one you want to delete double tap it to select.  Voiceover 
>> should tell you the item has been selected.  Repeats this process 
>> until you have selected all the items you want to delete.
>>
>> Now at the bottom of your screen on the right hand side should be a 
>> Delete Button.  Double tap and you may have a confirmatory prompt, 
>> double tap to confirm and your photos and or videos you selected are 
>> deleted.
>>
>> Malcolm Parfitt
>>
>>> On 23 May 2022, at 15:35, mi...@eastlink.ca wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Hi I also would like to know this as well. Sadley a lot of the 
>>> photos that I have I don’t have them captiond since I have found 
>>> that when I caption a photo it will sadley caption the wrong photo 
>>> or there is a bug in how photos work in ios. I also would like to 
>>> know where the storage feture is in ios? And if some one knows how 
>>> to get around this hole caption thing and making the captions stick 
>>> and not having them go to different photos etc? many thanks. From Mich.
>>>
>>> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On 
>>> Behalf Of *Rena
>>> *Sent:* May 23, 2022 10:22 AM
>>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* RE: How can I delete photos and videos from my iPhone SE2?
>>>
>>> Does it mean that I don’t have to open storage to delete photos?
>>>
>>> What about videos? Do I have a video app?
>>>
>>> Rena
>>>
>>> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> *On 
>>> Behalf Of *Malcolm Parfitt
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, May 22, 2022 4:23 PM
>>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> *Subject:* Re: How can I delete photos and videos from my iPhone SE2?
>>>
>>> Launch the Photos app and at the top of the screen you should have a 
>>> Select Button.  Double tap this.
>>>
>>> Now swipe through your photos and videos and double tap the ones you 
>>> no longer want to keep.  As you double tap then their status should 
>>> be announced as selected.  Once you have selected the items for 
>>> deletion towards the bottom right you shoul

RE: How can I delete photos and videos from my iPhone SE2?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Just to clarify, are your 4 photos already deleted and you simply want to 
delete them from the deleted photos or are they still on your iPhone and you 
want to just delete them from Photos?
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Margaret 
Thomas
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2024 5:25 AM
To: V iPhone list 
Subject: Re: How can I delete photos and videos from my iPhone SE2?

Good Morning:

Is the deleted photos will be in recently deleted for 30 days message like I 
believe it is in messages that there has to be a photo remaining to get into 
recently deleted?  I want to back up my SE 2 and have no need or desire for 
these 4 photos on my phone or on iCloud.

Many thanks,

Margaret



On 5/23/2022 10:52 AM, Malcolm Parfitt wrote:
> Yes, you do not need to open Settings.  All your videos and photos can 
> be managed via the Photos App.
> 
> As I said, open the Photos App.  At the top towards the right of your 
> phone you should find a Select Button.  Double tap this.
> 
> Now swipe right through the photos and videos on your phone.  When you 
> find one you want to delete double tap it to select.  Voiceover should 
> tell you the item has been selected.  Repeats this process until you 
> have selected all the items you want to delete.
> 
> Now at the bottom of your screen on the right hand side should be a 
> Delete Button.  Double tap and you may have a confirmatory prompt, 
> double tap to confirm and your photos and or videos you selected are 
> deleted.
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> 
>> On 23 May 2022, at 15:35, mi...@eastlink.ca wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Hi I also would like to know this as well. Sadley a lot of the photos 
>> that I have I don’t have them captiond since I have found that when I 
>> caption a photo it will sadley caption the wrong photo or there is a 
>> bug in how photos work in ios. I also would like to know where the 
>> storage feture is in ios? And if some one knows how to get around 
>> this hole caption thing and making the captions stick and not having 
>> them go to different photos etc? many thanks. From Mich.
>>
>> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
>> Of *Rena
>> *Sent:* May 23, 2022 10:22 AM
>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* RE: How can I delete photos and videos from my iPhone SE2?
>>
>> Does it mean that I don’t have to open storage to delete photos?
>>
>> What about videos? Do I have a video app?
>>
>> Rena
>>
>> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> *On 
>> Behalf Of *Malcolm Parfitt
>> *Sent:* Sunday, May 22, 2022 4:23 PM
>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: How can I delete photos and videos from my iPhone SE2?
>>
>> Launch the Photos app and at the top of the screen you should have a 
>> Select Button.  Double tap this.
>>
>> Now swipe through your photos and videos and double tap the ones you 
>> no longer want to keep.  As you double tap then their status should 
>> be announced as selected.  Once you have selected the items for 
>> deletion towards the bottom right you should find a Delete Button.  
>> Double tap this to delete the items you have selected.
>>
>> Malcolm Parfitt
>>
>> On 22 May 2022, at 21:06, Rena > <mailto:onyxfran...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I went to storage, but I was confused and I didn’t dare to delete
>> anything. I don’t want to delete any app, but only photos and videos.
>>
>> Please, explain how can delete videos and photos.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Rena
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Re: How can I delete photos and videos from my iPhone SE2?

[Margaret Thomas]

I'm running IOS 17.6.1 on an SE 2 and want to back up so I can try IOS 18

Margaret.

On 9/23/2024 9:38 AM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone wrote:

Have you updated to iOS 18?

If not, which iOS are you using?

I ask because iOS 18 seems quite different in the photos app.

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Margaret 
Thomas
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2024 5:25 AM
To: V iPhone list 
Subject: Re: How can I delete photos and videos from my iPhone SE2?

Good Morning:

Is the deleted photos will be in recently deleted for 30 days message like I 
believe it is in messages that there has to be a photo remaining to get into 
recently deleted?  I want to back up my SE 2 and have no need or desire for 
these 4 photos on my phone or on iCloud.

Many thanks,

Margaret



On 5/23/2022 10:52 AM, Malcolm Parfitt wrote:

Yes, you do not need to open Settings.  All your videos and photos can
be managed via the Photos App.

As I said, open the Photos App.  At the top towards the right of your
phone you should find a Select Button.  Double tap this.

Now swipe right through the photos and videos on your phone.  When you
find one you want to delete double tap it to select.  Voiceover should
tell you the item has been selected.  Repeats this process until you
have selected all the items you want to delete.

Now at the bottom of your screen on the right hand side should be a
Delete Button.  Double tap and you may have a confirmatory prompt,
double tap to confirm and your photos and or videos you selected are
deleted.

Malcolm Parfitt


On 23 May 2022, at 15:35, mi...@eastlink.ca wrote:



Hi I also would like to know this as well. Sadley a lot of the photos
that I have I don’t have them captiond since I have found that when I
caption a photo it will sadley caption the wrong photo or there is a
bug in how photos work in ios. I also would like to know where the
storage feture is in ios? And if some one knows how to get around
this hole caption thing and making the captions stick and not having
them go to different photos etc? many thanks. From Mich.

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf
Of *Rena
*Sent:* May 23, 2022 10:22 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: How can I delete photos and videos from my iPhone SE2?

Does it mean that I don’t have to open storage to delete photos?

What about videos? Do I have a video app?

Rena

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> *On
Behalf Of *Malcolm Parfitt
*Sent:* Sunday, May 22, 2022 4:23 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:* Re: How can I delete photos and videos from my iPhone SE2?

Launch the Photos app and at the top of the screen you should have a
Select Button.  Double tap this.

Now swipe through your photos and videos and double tap the ones you
no longer want to keep.  As you double tap then their status should
be announced as selected.  Once you have selected the items for
deletion towards the bottom right you should find a Delete Button.
Double tap this to delete the items you have selected.

Malcolm Parfitt

 On 22 May 2022, at 21:06, Rena mailto:onyxfran...@gmail.com>> wrote:

 

 Hi,

 I went to storage, but I was confused and I didn’t dare to delete
 anything. I don’t want to delete any app, but only photos and videos.

 Please, explain how can delete videos and photos.

 Thanks,

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RE: iOS 18 Touchscreen Issues Reported by Some iPhone Users

['Richard Turner' via VIPhone]

I have not run into this.

If you have a case on the phone, it is very difficult to accidently touch the 
camera control area as it has an open slot like where the power port is 
located, only longer of course.

When using BE My Eyes a couple of times VO said “camera in use” which I think 
meant I somehow got my finger in that slot, but it didn’t effect my ability to 
touch the screen.

I’ll pay close attention going forward, but this could be one of those isolated 
issues like with the antenna in the iPhone 4 I think it was.

 

 

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SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2024 8:08 AM
To: VIPhone via 
Subject: iOS 18 Touchscreen Issues Reported by Some iPhone Users

 

So apparently this problem isn’t just for the pro models. I hope they fix it. 
Is anybody on this list encountered it? I already have enough problems with 
emails I didn’t think I was deleting going away because VoiceOver didn’t update 
right and follow the list of emails correctly. So, this is depressing.

 

iOS 18 Touchscreen Issues Reported by Some iPhone Users

MacRumors: Mac News and Rumors  /  Tim Hardwick





Some users of iPhones running iOS 18 are reporting intermittent touchscreen 
responsiveness issues, with some devices seemingly ignoring taps and swipes. 
The problem appears to be affecting various models, including the new iPhone 16 
series, as well as older devices dating back to the iPhone 14.

  

 
Users on Reddit have reported 

  unresponsive areas on the screen, resulting in missed taps, ignored swipes, 
and difficulty scrolling or pressing buttons. This behavior is said to be 
particularly noticeable when interacting with the virtual keyboard, potentially 
leading to typing errors.

9to5Mac 

  was first to highlight the issue. However, while initially it was thought to 
be exclusive to the iPhone 16 Pro models, additional user reports indicate that 
the problem is more widespread and likely software-related. The root cause 
appears to be an overly sensitive touch rejection algorithm in iOS 18, designed 
to ignore accidental touches.

Given that inadvertent contact with the screen edges can trigger the system to 
temporarily ignore all new touches, the thinner bezels on the new iPhone 16 
models may have exacerbated the problem, making it easier for users to 
unintentionally trigger the rejection mechanism when gripping their devices.

The issue seems to occur only when devices are unlocked and in use. Some users 
have reported particular problems around the new Camera Control button, 
although it's unclear if this is directly related or a separate issue.

A demonstration posted on Mastodon 
  by user Khaos Tian shows 
how the problem can be intentionally triggered, providing further evidence that 
it is software-based. Assuming that is the case, it's likely that Apple can 
address the problem through a future update, but it has yet to comment on the 
matter.



Original Article: 
https://www.macrumors.com/2024/09/23/ios-18-touchscreen-issues-reported/

 

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RE: Walmart

[michv]

Hi yes I know and I wish that they would higher white people or at the verry 
least people who know how to speek proper english people who don’t sound like 
apoo from the quicky mart to deal with these ishues. I agree they really need 
to do better with these ishues and I agree they are just paying lip service to 
us and not takeing us seriously. From Mich.

 

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Sent: September 23, 2024 10:03 AM
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Subject: Walmart

 

I've talked to someone twice today.  You know how they always say there very 
for this inconvenience.  However I feel they are just playing games with us.  I 
told the last customer service if you really cared about your customers like 
you say you do, you'd give us a phone number to call to speak with the 
developers of the website and the app.  ow the last person I spoke with said we 
can go to walmart.corporate.com and fill out a form.  And also how they always 
say they are going to send the complaint and I feel they are playing games on 
that one as well.  I also told the people I talked to that theyre's no excuse 
for this and it's mandatory this gets fixed and should be working at all times 
so we don't have these difficulties.

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Re: Walmart

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Hello Jenny and everybody this is Mike from Oklahoma and Jenny. I think your heart is most definitely in the right place but, I’m inclined to believe Walmart isn’t playing games with everybody, including those of us who happen to be disabled and they say they’re all for making things accessible, and it turns out they may not be.Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 23, 2024, at 9:02 AM, Jenny Bomareto  wrote:I've talked to someone twice today.  You know how they always say there very for this inconvenience.  However I feel they are just playing games with us.  I told the last customer service if you really cared about your customers like you say you do, you'd give us a phone number to call to speak with the developers of the website and the app.  ow the last person I spoke with said we can go to walmart.corporate.com and fill out a form.  And also how they always say they are going to send the complaint and I feel they are playing games on that one as well.  I also told the people I talked to that theyre's no excuse for this and it's mandatory this gets fixed and should be working at all times so we don't have these difficulties.Thanks for reading regarding this matter.Jenny BomaretoSent from my iPhone 15



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RE: [External] RE: TuneIn Radio and iOS

['Richard Turner' via VIPhone]

tuneIN radio also carries college football by team, so you can listen to pretty 
much any teams broadcast.
Their search feature works well for this.


Richard, USA
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My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
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Eiland
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2024 6:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [External] RE: TuneIn Radio and iOS

Are you referring to the SiriusXM app? All the college games begin at channel 
952.
Channel 371 is ACC
Channel 372 is big 10
Channel 374 is SEC
Channel 375 is Big 12

My wife and I  like to follow mainly ACC and SEC. However, we do drift to other 
conferences during the big tournaments.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, September 16, 2024 11:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [External] RE: TuneIn Radio and iOS

I wish Sirius had college football, then that would be my perfect sports app!

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Cell: (803) 908-3856
Email: steve.c...@sccb.sc.gov

-Original Message-
From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2024 12:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [External] RE: TuneIn Radio and iOS

I got a deal for $4.99 a month a few years ago and unless I cancel, that price 
will remain the same.

I originally got it because of the NFL, since I already had the MLB At Bat app, 
but the next year the NFL was dropped.  I've kept the premium though for other 
things and that price is too good.

I also got Sirius XM for the NFL at a discount, when that year ran out, I 
cancelled because it isn't worth it to me to spend 11 or 12 per month on it.
Then, I got an offer this summer for Sirius XM for $4 plus a few pennies a 
month for a year, just in time tfor the NFL season, so I took it.
When it runs out I will cancel it and wait to see if they offer another deal...


Richard, USA
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My web site: https://www.turner42.com/

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Evan 
Reese
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2024 9:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: TuneIn Radio and iOS

I've been using it since June of 2023 and my price hasn't changed from
$7.99 a month.

Evan


On 9/16/2024 12:27 PM, Mario Eiland wrote:
> The only reason I paid for premium was to get to listen to my sports, but 
> then they cranked up the subscription prices and I moved on to using 
> SiriusXM. I'm not sure what other benefits you will get. Perhaps less ads.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Traci 
> Duncan
> Sent: Monday, September 16, 2024 8:33 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: TuneIn Radio and iOS
>
> Hi all, I see that there are three different versions of TuneIn. TuneIn free, 
> TuneIn premium, and a separate app TuneIn pro, which can also include premium 
> for an additional subscription.
>
> What are your thoughts and experiences with these various apps? Also, is 
> premium available on the smart speakers? I have been getting emails lately 
> for huge discounts. At first it was 50% off, now it is 70% off! I am tempted. 
> :-)
>
> Thank you,
> Traci
>

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RE: How can I delete photos and videos from my iPhone SE2?

['Richard Turner' via VIPhone]

Have you updated to iOS 18?

If not, which iOS are you using?

I ask because iOS 18 seems quite different in the photos app.

Richard, USA
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SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
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My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Margaret 
Thomas
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2024 5:25 AM
To: V iPhone list 
Subject: Re: How can I delete photos and videos from my iPhone SE2?

Good Morning:

Is the deleted photos will be in recently deleted for 30 days message like I 
believe it is in messages that there has to be a photo remaining to get into 
recently deleted?  I want to back up my SE 2 and have no need or desire for 
these 4 photos on my phone or on iCloud.

Many thanks,

Margaret



On 5/23/2022 10:52 AM, Malcolm Parfitt wrote:
> Yes, you do not need to open Settings.  All your videos and photos can 
> be managed via the Photos App.
> 
> As I said, open the Photos App.  At the top towards the right of your 
> phone you should find a Select Button.  Double tap this.
> 
> Now swipe right through the photos and videos on your phone.  When you 
> find one you want to delete double tap it to select.  Voiceover should 
> tell you the item has been selected.  Repeats this process until you 
> have selected all the items you want to delete.
> 
> Now at the bottom of your screen on the right hand side should be a 
> Delete Button.  Double tap and you may have a confirmatory prompt, 
> double tap to confirm and your photos and or videos you selected are 
> deleted.
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> 
>> On 23 May 2022, at 15:35, mi...@eastlink.ca wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Hi I also would like to know this as well. Sadley a lot of the photos 
>> that I have I don’t have them captiond since I have found that when I 
>> caption a photo it will sadley caption the wrong photo or there is a 
>> bug in how photos work in ios. I also would like to know where the 
>> storage feture is in ios? And if some one knows how to get around 
>> this hole caption thing and making the captions stick and not having 
>> them go to different photos etc? many thanks. From Mich.
>>
>> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
>> Of *Rena
>> *Sent:* May 23, 2022 10:22 AM
>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* RE: How can I delete photos and videos from my iPhone SE2?
>>
>> Does it mean that I don’t have to open storage to delete photos?
>>
>> What about videos? Do I have a video app?
>>
>> Rena
>>
>> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> *On 
>> Behalf Of *Malcolm Parfitt
>> *Sent:* Sunday, May 22, 2022 4:23 PM
>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: How can I delete photos and videos from my iPhone SE2?
>>
>> Launch the Photos app and at the top of the screen you should have a 
>> Select Button.  Double tap this.
>>
>> Now swipe through your photos and videos and double tap the ones you 
>> no longer want to keep.  As you double tap then their status should 
>> be announced as selected.  Once you have selected the items for 
>> deletion towards the bottom right you should find a Delete Button.  
>> Double tap this to delete the items you have selected.
>>
>> Malcolm Parfitt
>>
>> On 22 May 2022, at 21:06, Rena > <mailto:onyxfran...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I went to storage, but I was confused and I didn’t dare to delete
>> anything. I don’t want to delete any app, but only photos and videos.
>>
>> Please, explain how can delete videos and photos.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Rena
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Re: How can I delete photos and videos from my iPhone SE2?

[Margaret Thomas]

Good Morning:

Is the deleted photos will be in recently deleted for 30 days message 
like I believe it is in messages that there has to be a photo remaining 
to get into recently deleted?  I want to back up my SE 2 and have no 
need or desire for these 4 photos on my phone or on iCloud.


Many thanks,

Margaret



On 5/23/2022 10:52 AM, Malcolm Parfitt wrote:
Yes, you do not need to open Settings.  All your videos and photos can 
be managed via the Photos App.


As I said, open the Photos App.  At the top towards the right of your 
phone you should find a Select Button.  Double tap this.


Now swipe right through the photos and videos on your phone.  When you 
find one you want to delete double tap it to select.  Voiceover should 
tell you the item has been selected.  Repeats this process until you 
have selected all the items you want to delete.


Now at the bottom of your screen on the right hand side should be a 
Delete Button.  Double tap and you may have a confirmatory prompt, 
double tap to confirm and your photos and or videos you selected are 
deleted.


Malcolm Parfitt


On 23 May 2022, at 15:35, mi...@eastlink.ca wrote:



Hi I also would like to know this as well. Sadley a lot of the photos 
that I have I don’t have them captiond since I have found that when I 
caption a photo it will sadley caption the wrong photo or there is a 
bug in how photos work in ios. I also would like to know where the 
storage feture is in ios? And if some one knows how to get around this 
hole caption thing and making the captions stick and not having them 
go to different photos etc? many thanks. From Mich.


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Of *Rena

*Sent:* May 23, 2022 10:22 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: How can I delete photos and videos from my iPhone SE2?

Does it mean that I don’t have to open storage to delete photos?

What about videos? Do I have a video app?

Rena

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> *On 
Behalf Of *Malcolm Parfitt

*Sent:* Sunday, May 22, 2022 4:23 PM
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*Subject:* Re: How can I delete photos and videos from my iPhone SE2?

Launch the Photos app and at the top of the screen you should have a 
Select Button.  Double tap this.


Now swipe through your photos and videos and double tap the ones you 
no longer want to keep.  As you double tap then their status should be 
announced as selected.  Once you have selected the items for deletion 
towards the bottom right you should find a Delete Button.  Double tap 
this to delete the items you have selected.


Malcolm Parfitt

On 22 May 2022, at 21:06, Rena mailto:onyxfran...@gmail.com>> wrote:



Hi,

I went to storage, but I was confused and I didn’t dare to delete
anything. I don’t want to delete any app, but only photos and videos.

Please, explain how can delete videos and photos.

Thanks,

Rena

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Re: Qardio app, alternatives

[Peter Logan]

I was actually able to export the app from my old phone as an IPA file, and then imported into the new phone using the Imazing softwareI did need cited assistance to do it, but thank God for Teams and screen shares… Lol.All up and running on my new phone…Sent from my IPhone.On Sep 22, 2024, at 9:11 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







I just did a bit of Googling and there are certainly people asking the same thing and rumors Qardio is bankrupt.
Their website is still up and running and Amazon apparently still offers their products for sale, nothing recent on their website under the “news” link.
I posted the app was still in the app store, but I just had another look and I’ll retract my statement, the app I found when I searched for “Qardio” is called “Cardiio: heart rate monitor, pulse oximeter and
 analyser. I wasn’t paying too much attention and while spelled very differently, I was just swiping a bit quickly and it sounded almost the same.
 
 
 


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I have not heard this and when I just did a search for “Qardio” in the App Store, it came right up.
The version showing is 4.0.17 and it was updated 1 week ago.
 


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Transferring things to my IP16 Pro tonight, and found out that the Qardio app is no longer available..  After doing some research it appears they went bankrupt earlier in the year.  Never knew that.
 
So, wondering if anyone is using other apps and devices for weight, temperature, and blood pressure.  I know Whitings makes some stuff, but if I remember from earlier threads those devices and apps aren’t totally accessible.  My Qardio
 scale vibrates, so I know when it is taking a measurement.
 
Not really wanting to replace all that stuff .. none of it is even 2 years old.  Maybe the phone goes back and I wait another year or so ..
 
 
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Re: Walmart App

[Vicky Collins]

I also am having more and more problems with the Walmart app.First, and I do believe this started with the update before this latest one, but I am also having problems flicking through the results when I've searched for a particular item. I can get to the first result okay, but after that, the app seems to move me all over the place. Thus, the best way I found to deal with this for now is to use the three finger swipe up and the three finger swipe down to go down and up the list respectively, and then just slide my finger up and down the screen to make sure I don't miss any items.Second, and this has happened since the most recent update a day or two ago, but when I have nothing in my cart and want to review the items that I have saved for later, if I double tap on the button to open the cart, it kicks me out of the app altogether. However, if I have just one item in the cart, it will open the cart and let me view that item and then let me scroll on down and review the items that I have in the saved for later part of the cart. Also, when viewing the items that I have saved for later in that part of the cart, I can flick through all of the items there without a problem.Vicky Collins USASent from my iPhoneOn Sep 22, 2024, at 9:23 AM, 'Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone  wrote:We have Walmart Plus, and we get groceries delivered every week. We have noticed the same issues with the app the last few weeks. Each week the app is a little worse. And it is getting more and more difficult to reach a human at customer service. Last week we ordered 28 items and received 5. We received at least 10 bags of someone else’s order in addition. The order was so specialized we couldn’t even give what we didn’t want to a neighbor and our family was out of town so we ended up tossing at least $50 worth of groceries away because Walmart didn’t want it back and we had no way of donating it and nowhere to store it. It was mostly perishable. We are still consuming at least $200 worth of other items. And they credited us the money for the missing items so we could reorder what we needed including over the counter medication. I only hope some minor didn’t get the OTC medication that was originally meant for us the first time.Regarding the app, this week it took me about an hour or maybe 90 minutes to get an order in for 23 items. Because it is so difficult to add items to the cart and sometimes the wrong item goes in. And sometimes it will not scroll. I ended up searching for each item individually and adding it one at a time which is a real hassle.MervOn Sep 22, 2024, at 12:55 AM, Chuck Adkins  wrote:yes, certain aspects of Walmart app had become very inaccessible, and it doesn't matter which iOS you were using. I have written them four times on their feedback option and have never gotten a response. It is really sad.Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 22, 2024, at 12:43 AM, Tiffany  wrote: Yes, I have problems as well. When I scroll through the items shopping to add to my cart, it completely freezes, using voiceover, have not updated my phone to iOS 18 as of yet. Thank you any help would be greatly appreciated. Blessings to all.🌸🙏😺🤗On Sep 21, 2024, at 8:16 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:




I've had no problems, looking up things and ordering things from Walmart or android. A live one on one walk-through would help any of you, please let me know. I will set up a day and help you guys out.


On Sep 21, 2024, at 8:11 PM, Michael Irons  wrote:


I tried to use the Walmart app. I could never get into it to do anything with it. I called Walmart twice and never got a straight answer from them about anything. As far as I’m concerned, I think the Walmart app is inaccessible to thousands
 of us who happened to be either severely visually impaired or totally blind That’s my take on it and if people don’t like it, they might as well come and beat me up. 

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On Sep 21, 2024, at 7:14 PM, Jenny Bomareto  wrote:




For those of you that have updated to IOS18.  Are you having difficulty with Walmart app?   For me where the section in the app that has my items.  It'll let me scroll down through some of them, and then it jumps back to the top of the list.
  I also deleted the app again today, and then re-downloaded it.  I also filed a complaint to Walmart last night as well. I called the customer care phone number .  Also after putting the app back on my phone a little while ago, when the code got texted to
 me, it wasn't allowing me to put it in.  So now I can't even sign into the app other then my e-mail address.  I was also yesterday on the phone with apple accessability for almost three hours.  She did wonderful helping me. I even went to Safari yesterday
 and it wasn't working very well either.  So please all of you that use walmart please file complaints so we can do our grocery ordering.  The lady from Apple said since Walmart is a third party app if I understood her correctly she