On Oct 9, 2011, at 5:52 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint wrote:
When you zoom in on the end of the sensor lead wire, where the frayed
insulation is, you clearly see the bare metal thermocouple wires.
And from the length of that section of lead wire (~1.5 to 2
inches), the
most likely location for
Greetings All,
A thought: Professor Rossi as the New Columbus- the New World of LENR
Reactions.
or is he the New Coulomb-us?
Respectfully,
Ron Kita, Chiralex
Happy Columbus Day
That appears to be a graph of power noy yemperature.
- Original Message -
From: Jed Rothwell
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2011 9:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Look at the BIG PICTURE and you will see this is
irrefutable proof
Joe Catania zrosumg...@aol.com
If its passive cooling? Excuse me but are we discussing something here?
- Original Message -
From: Jed Rothwell
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2011 9:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Look at the BIG PICTURE and you will see this is
irrefutable proof
Excuse me I
Jed I'm not going to bother to comment on your very flawed analysis. It dosen't
seem you want us to agree.
- Original Message -
From: Jed Rothwell
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2011 10:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi heat exchanger fitting
Alan Fletcher
Jed I'm not going to bother to comment on your very flawed analysis. It dosen't
seem you want us to agree.
- Original Message -
From: Jed Rothwell
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2011 10:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi heat exchanger fitting
Alan Fletcher
You guys need to get a room. ;-)
T
http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewhttp://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4t=285
topic.php?f=4t=285http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4t=285
The technological breakthrough of LENR (or CANR) is no longer speculation.
It is a fact that will eventually change
On 11-10-09 09:39 PM, Horace Heffner wrote:
Here are some charts of possible interest.
...
It appears the RF power was ramped up at 16:38 (326 min)and down at
18:53 (461 min). The T2 curve mysteriously responds, despite the
input RF power being nominal. The thermal mass of the metal and
Deflalion indicates that they are ready for production.
http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4t=285
And it sounds like Rossi was using an older Defkalion design:
Today, Hyperion engineering has completed version 7. We were surprised
to see our old designs used in public
On Oct 9, 2011, at 7:05 PM, Robert Leguillon wrote:
Alright, if it's conclusive without the thermocouples
Does anyone have a decent water capacity for the E-Cat? I see that
H.H. calculated 14.2 liters, but has there been any confirmed
number out of the Rossi camp?
I only ask, because
Joe Catania zrosumg...@aol.com wrote:
**
That appears to be a graph of power noy yemperature.
It is derived from Lewan's temperature readings. The flow rate was unchanged
so correspondence to the temperature is unchanged for the entire dataset. In
other words, you could replace the vertical
On 2011-10-10 16:02, Daniel Rocha wrote:
http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/view
http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4t=285topic.php?f=4t=285
http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4t=285
It would be interesting to read Rossi's comments on this.
Maybe it's
Another pot of snakes ?
2011/10/10 Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com
On 2011-10-10 16:02, Daniel Rocha wrote:
http://www.defkalion-energy.**com/forum/viewhttp://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/view
Robert Leguillon robert.leguil...@hotmail.com wrote:
The rapid overfilling was at .91 grams/second (It turns out the 1.92 g/s
was for quenching)
The rapid overfill I refer to is the quenching, at 1.92 g/s. I believe
0.91 was the rate during the test when Lewan checked it. 1.92 isn't very
Joe Catania zrosumg...@aol.com wrote:
**
Jed I'm not going to bother to comment on your very flawed analysis. It
dosen't seem you want us to agree.
You don't believe that heat storage means the temperature rises?
Forget about me. You do not agree with Newton; that's your problem. What the
From Defkkalion, of particular interest:
Today, Hyperion engineering has completed version 7.
We were surprised to see our old designs used in public testing.
We were confused why our old designs were implemented wrongly,
as well as witnessing insufficient use of instruments and
testing
From Stephen:
Mysterious RF oscillators with undocumented connections
and functions add so much interest to the question of
How It Works
Has Rossi become the New Ron Stiffler?
I'm inclined to think that Stephen's speculation is probably
unwarranted in this particular case. As I
Newton's Law is irrelevant. Your the type of buffoon who believes that since
there's an Ohms LAw every conductor obeys it. The temperature law the e-cat
obeys is ostensibly written in the temperature data if we can consider that
valid. Whether that confirms its Newton's Law or notr is not
I already said there was heat storage. We are not contesting me here Jed and
that's what is clear.
- Original Message -
From: Jed Rothwell
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi heat exchanger fitting
Joe Catania
Newton's Law is irrelevant. Your the type of buffoon who believes that since
there's an Ohms LAw every conductor obeys it. The temperature law the e-cat
obeys is ostensibly written in the temperature data if we can consider that
valid. Whether that confirms its Newton's Law or notr is not
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 10:43 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Joe Catania zrosumg...@aol.com wrote:
Jed I'm not going to bother to comment on your very flawed analysis. It
dosen't seem you want us to agree.
You don't believe that heat storage means the temperature rises?
-Original Message-
From: Craig Haynie
Defkalion: We also identified confidential (yet shown in public) special
instruments designed in collaboration with Rossi and prepared by Defkalion.
CH: Could that 'confidential special instrument' be the frequency generator?
Didn't Rossi bring
From Joe Catania:
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Joe Catania wrote:
Newton's Law is irrelevant. Your the type of buffoon who believes that since
there's an Ohms LAw every conductor obeys it. The temperature law the
e-cat obeys is ostensibly written in the temperature data if we can
Terry sez:
You guys need to get a room. ;-)
Sorry.
I guess I'm too much of an exhibitionist.
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
On Oct 10, 2011, at 6:07 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
On 11-10-09 09:39 PM, Horace Heffner wrote:
Here are some charts of possible interest.
...
It appears the RF power was ramped up at 16:38 (326 min)and down
at 18:53 (461 min). The T2 curve mysteriously responds, despite
the
On Oct 10, 2011, at 6:07 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
On 11-10-09 09:39 PM, Horace Heffner wrote:
Here are some charts of possible interest.
...
It appears the RF power was ramped up at 16:38 (326 min)and down
at 18:53 (461 min). The T2 curve mysteriously responds, despite
the
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1875389211006092
Frank Znidarsic
Jed,
I said:
An additional 2,056 watts is required for the phase-change, but, of course, we
have no idea how much is boiling away.
Greater than 2,437 watts would completely vaporize the input water.
You said:
Since the temperature is 120°C I believe it has to be completely vaporized. I
Predictions:
1) This test has the potential to be quite conclusive. It won't be. *Check
2) It will take a LONG time for the e-Cat to come up to temperature. Only
after it's stable, Rossi will begin circulating water in the secondary, and the
e-Cat temperature will drop a little, and
DGT wrote:
We were surprised to see our old designs used in public testing.
and
We also identified confidential (yet shown in public) special instruments
designed in collaboration with Rossi and prepared by Defkalion.
I feel a lawsuit coming on!
-mark
I continue to update the review at:
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/Rossi6Oct2011Review.pdf
I found out I need to make the graphs small to not lose font
readability in the report pdf.
I made the separate graphs much larger now:
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/RossiGraph.png
From Mark:
DGT wrote:
We were surprised to see our old designs used in public testing.
and
We also identified confidential (yet shown in public) special instruments
designed in collaboration with Rossi and prepared by Defkalion.
I feel a lawsuit coming on!
Yeah, perhaps so.
Regarding the condensed steam outlet temp - don't think you can or
should read much into it, 5-10°C on 2g/s is only 40-80W, not important
for overall calorimetry. It could have been a typo (eg 23.2 instead
of 28.2), and was likely to have been measured in the container Lewan
used to collect 3
More like a gun to the head - ie we think we can extract legal
remedies for your revelation of our confidential materials unless you
come to an agreement with us, (and we know you are running out of
money and time while we can pay for lots of lawyers that will waste
all of your time), but let's
On 11-10-10 11:04 AM, Joe Catania wrote:
Newton's Law is irrelevant. Your the type of buffoon who ...
And you, /Mister/ Catania, are apparently the type of poster who resorts
to ad hominems when he's having trouble expressing himself clearly
enough to get his point across.
Jed's may be a
From Robert:
More like a gun to the head - ie we think we can extract
legal remedies for your revelation of our confidential
materials unless you come to an agreement with us, (and
we know you are running out of money and time while we can
pay for lots of lawyers that will waste all of your
On 11-10-10 12:33 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
On 11-10-10 11:04 AM, Joe Catania wrote:
Newton's Law is irrelevant. Your the type of buffoon who ...
And you, /Mister/ Catania, are apparently the type of poster who
resorts to ad hominems when he's having trouble expressing himself
Jed Rothwell is a serious, intelligent, dedicated, honorable, careful,
scientific layman with the highest motives to benefit our world -- he
always acknowledges his bias clearly and openly.
I think it would be much to his credit to agree that the term
pathological skeptic is as unworthy in public
Sure looks like they are saying that Rossi has stolen their design
with his eLion.
T
On 11-10-10 11:56 AM, Horace Heffner wrote:
I continue to update the review at:
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/Rossi6Oct2011Review.pdf
Thanks, Horace!
There's a lot of light reading there, and I can't claim to have read
all of it as yet -- very nice analysis.
I found out I need
Am 10.10.2011 18:19, schrieb Robert Lynn:
Regarding the condensed steam outlet temp - don't think you can or
should read much into it, 5-10°C on 2g/s is only 40-80W, not important
for overall calorimetry.
According to Mr. Rossi, the flow rate adjusted at the peristaltic pump
was 15 kg/h.
This
Am 10.10.2011 18:50, schrieb Terry Blanton:
Sure looks like they are saying that Rossi has stolen their design
with his eLion.
Hard to imagine, because Professor Stremmenos (vice president and chief
scientist @ Defkalion) was present and smiling.
On 11-10-10 10:58 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote:
From Stephen:
Mysterious RF oscillators with undocumented connections
and functions add so much interest to the question of
How It Works
Has Rossi become the New Ron Stiffler?
I'm inclined to think that Stephen's speculation
The question was not posted, but I guess he is calling of clowns the people
of Defkalion:
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=510cpage=20#comment-94489
Dear Martin:
These are just clowns.
No other comment is opportune.
I want not to dirt this blog with that shit. My attorneys are taking
Quit picking on Catania who does not know the difference between
'your' and 'you're'. He passed away some time ago as is evidenced by
this piccy of him surrounded by flowers. RIP JOE!
http://www.theeestory.com/posts/199540
T
Interesting! He deleted the message!
2011/10/10 Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com
The question was not posted, but I guess he is calling of clowns the people
of Defkalion:
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=510cpage=20#comment-94489
Dear Martin:
These are just clowns.
No other
Experiments require controls. Demonstrations only require observers.
I don't think AR is experimenting.
I do think that we are soon to see either a legal feeding frenzy or a
Greek and an Italian back having a romance. Unfortunately, I think
the former is more likely due to pride (as in a lot of
That is hilarious.
- Jed
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
Interesting! He deleted the message!
He said 'shit'. His mom probably made him erase it and eat soap.
T
When you have a black box, controls are valid when there is a double blind,
that is, the experimenter and the subject don't know which one is true. In
the case of humans, it is to filter the placebo effect. In the case of the
e-cat, it is to avoid fraud, that is, slightly different designs to make
1. For the 6 Oct test, only one of the three modules in the E-Cat was
active. Oct 6 for the test, only one of the three modules in the
E-Cat was active. By what means were the other two made inoperative?
By what means-Were the other two made inoperative? They don't seem to
have separate
On 2011-10-10 19:43, Daniel Rocha wrote:
Interesting! He deleted the message!
Unfortunately I think it's too late now for him. The message has been
already cited in several forums and blogs. Also, people with RSS feeds
should still have it in their email clients.
Cheers,
S.A.
I just received a couple of iphone photos from an attendee (but I
don't have permission to post them) which clearly shows that the
thermocouple was attached to the nut near the center of the
manifold. As best as I can tell, this lines up with the center of
the connection to the heat
On 11-10-10 01:14 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote:
I'm reminded of something recently stated over at the PESN web site,
author, Hank Mills:
See:
http://pesn.com/2011/10/08/9501929_E-Cat_Test_Validates_Cold_Fusion_Despite_Challenges/
http://tinyurl.com/6a7zcw2
Specifically:
No
Alan J Fletcher wrote:
In any event, this puts the thermocouple only 2 cm away from the
center-line, and the thickness of the top of the manifold looks to be
about 1 cm.
Of course, rulers haven't been invented yet, so these distances are
estimates.
(Sorry, Jed ... this problem won't go
At 06:50 PM 10/9/2011, Alan Fletcher wrote:
This analysis presumes that
there is similar coupling of heat from the two streams.
On the output (water) side the coupling is from water to brass, which is
efficient.
On the input (steam) side we have an unknown selection of
any/all
a) Superheated
OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote:
Looks to me as if Defkalion is trying it's best to remain diplomatic
and respectful to the interests of the original parties while at the
same time making it very clear to all potential investors that their
own engineering efforts have now exceeded the
I think the people at Defkalion are sincerely respectful of Rossi, as am I.
He is a genius. He invented this device. He deserves barrels of money and a
dozen Nobel prizes for it. Unfortunately he is not very good at doing
demonstrations.
- Jed
I am not sure if that is an irony or not...
Hi,
On 10-10-2011 19:56, Alan J Fletcher wrote:
1. For the 6 Oct test, only one of the three modules in the E-Cat was
active. Oct 6 for the test, only one of the three modules in the E-Cat
was active. By what means were the other two made inoperative? By what
means-Were the other two made
LOL. That's hypocritical.
- Original Message -
From: Rich Murray rmfor...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com; Rich Murray rmfor...@gmail.com; Rich Murray
rmfor...@comcast.net
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Look at the BIG PICTURE and you will see this is
LOL. That's hypocritical.
- Original Message -
From: Rich Murray rmfor...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com; Rich Murray rmfor...@gmail.com; Rich Murray
rmfor...@comcast.net
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Look at the BIG PICTURE and you will see this is
Funny, you don't seem annoyed. All Jed is capable with regard to this matter
is condescension.
- Original Message -
From: Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 12:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Look at the BIG PICTURE and you will see this
No that was part of the decor in a restaurant in Taormina. Its nice to know
that the only thing that counts here is spelling (and self-affected
narcissists).
- Original Message -
From: Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 1:41 PM
Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote:
Putting a metal thermocouple up against a metal surface sounds like a
prescription for variable but systematic error, depending on vibrations,
touching the wire, humidity, etc. The steel nut can short out at least some
some of the potential.
Congratulations, Mr. Catania.
Further posts from you will be routed to my block list.
I'm sure you could care less. I guess the feeling is mutual.
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
What do my posts matter anyway? Yes please block me.
- Original Message -
From: OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Look at the BIG PICTURE and you will see this is
irrefutable proof
At 11:33 AM 10/10/2011, Man on Bridges wrote:
AR: 1 - only one reactor has-been inserted in the wafer
It looks to me Rossi refers to the box as a wafer and not as what is
common in wafer production to silicon wafers.
Nor its religious (catholic, at least) use.
Anyway, a single eCat means
In a private discussion, someone suggested that it can be difficult to
anticipate objections. He said that even if a test convinces the experts at
the time it is done, they may later come up with possible errors that did
not occur to them at first. Naturally I agree there is some truth to that,
Man on Bridges manonbrid...@aim.com wrote:
It looks to me Rossi refers to the box as a wafer and not as what is common
in wafer production to silicon wafers.
I thought he meant that crinkly heat exchanger-like thing.
- Jed
At 11:20 AM 10/10/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote:
I said you will never get to the bottom of this, and it is not worth trying.
You're probably right on that. So we're left with a purely
qualitative demonstration. Ah well.
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 2:50 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
Congratulations, Mr. Catania.
Further posts from you will be routed to my block list.
I'm sure you could care less. I guess the feeling is mutual.
whisper: . . . not care less
g, d r
-the
David Roberson
October 8th, 2011 at 10:52 PM
Dear Mr. Rossi,
Your LENR test on October 6, 2011 should be listed as a historical event.
I wonder if I might ask you to clarify one issue that the skeptics
continue to bring up which you can settle quickly. My personal opinion
is that the location
From one narcissist to another...
Seems ol Joe thinks he's converted the lot of us...
http://www.theeestory.com/users/1681/posts#
80kgs of metal can easily store over 40MJ. It's not on the level of a
discussion. My arguments have been extremely convincing as I think you can
tell by the
Hi,
On 10-10-2011 21:02, Alan J Fletcher wrote:
Nor its religious (catholic, at least) use.
Yeah, I know; it's a long time ago I had one of these.
Anyway, a single eCat means .
... more room for mice
And you know what they say about cat and mice:
NL: Als de kat van huis is
If that were the approach you would use graphite inductively heated to 3500
deg C in a graphite foil/foam insulated vacuum flask, add hydrogen to start
convective heat transfer. Stores about 1.3kWh/kg and about 2.7kWh/liter, so
would need about 10 liters for 80MJ of latest demo.
Note I am sure
Alan J Fletcher wrote:
At 11:20 AM 10/10/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote:
I said you will never get to the bottom of this, and it is not worth
trying.
You're probably right on that. So we're left with a purely qualitative
demonstration. Ah well.
Well, mainly qualitative. However, you can make a
For what it's worth, here are crops of the thermistors, heat
exchanger and manifold:
http://lenr.qumbu.com/111010_pics/111010_1_crop.jpg
http://lenr.qumbu.com/111010_pics/111010_2_crop.jpg
http://lenr.qumbu.com/111010_pics/111010_3_crop.jpg
http://lenr.qumbu.com/111010_pics/111010_4_crop.jpg
H . . . I screwed up this analysis, I think. Let me try again.
First, I refer to this graph:
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/304196_10150844451570375_818270374_20774905_1010742682_n.jpg
I confused the issue by thinking about where the output line should be,
given the likely
Terry sez:
...
I'm sure you could care less.
whisper: . . . not care less
g, d r
Really? I wuz never good at grammar.
Grammatically speaking I always thought it is better form to avoid
cluttering up one's literary intent with the use of double negatives.
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
If someone Couldn't care less, it means that they care so little that it's
impossible for them to care any less than they do right now.
If someone Could care less, it means that they care enough that it's possible
to care less.
Irregardless, people will continue to use the phrase to the
Rossi sez:
...
A SNAKE HAS WRITTEN THAT INSEDE THE E-CAT THERE WAS DIESEL OIL TO BE
BURNT………JUST LOOK AT THE WEIGHTS: AT THE END OF THE OPERATION THE
E-CAT WEIGHTED SOME GRAM MORE THAT BEFORE THE OPERATION….
Diesel oil??? Good grief! Who wuz suggesting that?
BTW, I luv reading Rossi's
At 12:16 PM 10/10/2011, Alan J Fletcher wrote:
At 11:20 AM 10/10/2011, Jed
Rothwell wrote:
I said you will never get to the
bottom of this, and it is not worth trying.
You're probably right on that. So we're left with a purely qualitative
demonstration. Ah well.
It's buried in Lewan's data --
Rossi could give us the answer as to how much the secondary outlet
thermocouple was biased in 1/2 hour with a jug of boiling water and a cold
water supply. But his ego would never allow him to.
On 10 October 2011 20:58, Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
For what it's worth, here are crops
Alan J Fletcher wrote:
I said you will never get to the bottom of this, and it is not worth
trying.
You're probably right on that. So we're left with a purely
qualitative demonstration. Ah well.
It's buried in Lewan's data -- but as he pointed out in his responses
to Krivit, he DID
Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
It's buried in Lewan's data -- but as he pointed out in his responses to
Krivit, he DID measure the eCat output flow twice (presumably at the usual
drain).
He read it at the drain and also, during the video, from the flowmeter.
- Jed
Look closer at this one:
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/RossiT2Pout.png
Let me give you a scenario. There is some back pressure on the E-Cat, so
boiling temperature rises as high as 124 degrees.
Note: This is in the believer's favor. If atmospheric pressure is lower, then
the boiling
Since you know nothing of the e-cat your remarks have been dismissed. Yes it
was prooveable in the September e-cat that the effects were purely based on
thermal inertia. I suspect the same here. Rothwwell has not been able to
substantiate his position which seems to be a blind acceptance of CF
At 02:09 PM 10/10/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Alan J Fletcher
a...@well.com wrote:
It's buried in Lewan's data -- but as he pointed out in his responses
to Krivit, he DID measure the eCat output flow twice (presumably at the
usual drain).
He read it at the drain and also, during the video,
At 02:15 PM 10/10/2011, Robert Leguillon wrote:
Look closer at this one:
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/RossiT2Pout.png
Let me give you a scenario. There is some back pressure on the
E-Cat, so boiling temperature rises as high as 124 degrees.
Note: This is in the believer's favor. If
Alan J Fletcher wrote:
The flowmeter and volume measurements are on the SECONDARY. The flow
results for the secondary are fine .. as is its input temperature.
He made TWO measurements on the PRIMARY flow ... one at the end of
sustaining, and one after the hydrogen was purged and the
The double flow was recorded after they began trying to quench the reaction.
Increasing the flow rate was specifically mentioned before that second
measurement, and everyone previously lauded the pump for it's accuracy during
previous demonstrations.
Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
May people have made this comment. Some, like Jed, directly to
Rossi. Use of experimental controls is such a basic science concept
it is taught in grade school science. Still, Rossi rejects the
approach.
I've made similar statements about controls myself:
At 12:58 PM 10/10/2011, Alan J Fletcher wrote:
For what it's worth, here are crops of the thermistors, heat
exchanger and manifold:
http://lenr.qumbu.com/111010_pics/111010_1_crop.jpg
Diagram : http://lenr.qumbu.com/111010_manifold_001_h1200.jpg
I just heard back from my source ... NO, the
During Mat's walk through video I make it about 40+/-1 Hz, with same LMI P18
pump with 2ml max stroke (and back pressure of at least 1.3bar if making
124°C steam, pump is limited to 1.5bar)
http://www.lmi-pumps.com/datasheets/Pseries-08-01.pdf, that would suggest at
maximum 1.3g/s and probably
Let's now take this to its logical conclusion.
At a primary flow rate of .91 g/s, the evidence makes it look as though the
average power (including the power applied by the band heater) over the entire
span, could not have been over 2.5 kW. Anything higher would have resulted in
higher E-Cat
In Italian. See:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-5cFOsisAo
Some segments of this, such as around 2:00, show people outside at the end
of the 20 m cooling water outlet hose. I believe some of them are trying to
measure the temperature. Lewan told me the hose was so long, temperature
measurements
Joe:
Is that the way to rebut someone who has only questioned some of your
reasoning regarding the heat storage capacity of the E-Cat? Your rebuttal is
to claim they know nothing about the E-Cat and dismiss their points with no
facts or explanation! Then you go on continuing to claim that all your
I have not had time to read all the messages today, but I was thinking about
the known error sources.
1) The heat exchanger efficiency cannot be no more than 90%. That is
because, the surface area of E-Cat and hose to heat exchanger was in total
about 1.3 m². We do not know the surface
The Italian rcde.it video shows that the primary loop water came out of a
large plastic garbage can parked next to the pump. It is a shame they did
not weigh the garbage can before and after. That would have given the total
amount pumped through. It may not all have been vaporized . . .
That
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