Papp engine experimentation is like baseball.
It’s another season and springtime means new Papp engine experiments.
The weather is warming up and people interested in the Papp engine are able
to conduct new experiments in their garages without enduring the pain
inflected by the cold.
Both Russ
Harry,
The answer to your first question is yes.
If the charge rotation is about a dimension that is not along the circumference
of the wheel then I think it would radiate in the far field. I have never
considered that type of movement before, but I am confident that there would
not be
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 1:47 AM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
In reply to Harry Veeder's message of Sun, 24 Mar 2013 13:13:10 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
Classical EM theory says a charge undergoing acceleration should radiate
energy.
A charge with angular momentum is experiencing an acceleration (in the
That should be true if the electron acts as a point charge since we know the
atom is stable. Have you looked into relativity effects to see if they
influence the electron radiation cancellation at ground state? I wonder if
time dilation might make a point charge appear as a continuous one
One thing that has bothered me lately is that tritium is unstable while helium
3 is stable. You take tritium with its two neutrons and one proton and convert
one of the neutrons into a proton and it becomes more stable. That just seems
wrong when you end up with a nucleus that has coulomb
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=791#comments
Andrea Rossi
March 24th, 2013 at 10:53 PM
DEAR GEORGEHANTS:
YOUR COMMENT IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE OPENS THE GATE FOR THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION:
THE TESTS OF THE THIRD INDIPENDENT PARTY HAVE BEEN COMPLETED YESTERDAY.
I DID NOT ATTEND,
Not when neutrons repeal each other.
Neutrons have spin 1/2 and therefore obey the pauli exclusion principle,
meaning two neutrons cannot occupy the same space at the same time. When
two neutrons' wavefunctions overlap, they feel a strong repulsive force.
See
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Mon, 25 Mar 2013 03:05:27 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
Not when neutrons repeal each other.
Neutrons have spin 1/2 and therefore obey the pauli exclusion principle,
meaning two neutrons cannot occupy the same space at the same time.
I think you mean the same state at
Bosons can. That is what a Bose-Einstein condensate is. It is one large
waveform added together from many small ones.
Cheers: Axil
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 3:21 AM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Mon, 25 Mar 2013 03:05:27 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
Not when neutrons
In reply to David Roberson's message of Mon, 25 Mar 2013 02:40:39 -0400 (EDT):
Hi,
[snip]
That should be true if the electron acts as a point charge since we know the
atom is stable. Have you looked into relativity effects to see if they
influence the electron radiation cancellation at ground
He takes risks. No report within 1 month, he will lose even his core fans.
The report will be inconclusive and/or written by
unknown professors even worse.
BTW, have you noticed how silent is the ShutdownRossi site recently?
Peter
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Harry Veeder
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Mon, 25 Mar 2013 03:27:46 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
Bosons can. That is what a Bose-Einstein condensate is. It is one large
waveform added together from many small ones.
One large waveform doesn't necessarily imply that all the composite entities are
in the same place
In reply to Harry Veeder's message of Mon, 25 Mar 2013 02:33:23 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 1:47 AM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
In reply to Harry Veeder's message of Sun, 24 Mar 2013 13:13:10 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
Classical EM theory says a charge undergoing acceleration should
You are right. They are in superposition. They are nowhere and everywhere
at the same time: delocalized.
This is why LENR gammas get thermalized. A fission reaction in a condensate
will spread its energy throughout the condensate,
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 3:37 AM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
In
50Hz antenna will make the phone very huge ...
If they extended the range to below 50Hz, they could pick up the stray
field
from the grid, which is much larger than the RF transmissions they are
harvesting now. Since most of this would be harvested indoors, it would
automatically be
I'm sure I missed something crucial here.
How do protons in the nucleus lose their positive charge, and as such
presumably transform into neutrons?
IOW, what is the theorized mechanism(s) involved here?
Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Again you make some interesting assertions that do not seem
to be valid. Recall that in ICCF 10
Letts and I gave back to back presentations and papers that included a remote
demonstration (since the conference precluded live demos) involving laser
stimulation. (see
Last public report did not says there was no He4, just that they did not
measure them with XRF separately, and they talk of light element...
The announce of Be and B elements are new, since they were all inside the
light elements
moreover they were testing only the NAE, not all the material
” WE GOT EVIDENCE THAT
THE ‘ EFFECT’ IS REAL BEYOND ANY REASONABLE DOUBT”.
does not sound very encouraging in terms of CoP of the HCat. If it
took this long to come to that conclusion, the performance must be
low.
Oh, to set the record straight or to clearify my statement
about ICCF10 demos Letts and I were told not to present at the conference
center… Mitchell Swartz and Dash did gave demos during ICCF 10-- Not at
the conference center but at the nearby lab at
MIT. Mitch also gave a
On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 10:21 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:
The antenna and the receiver circuit are designed to pick up a wide
range of frequencies — from 500 megahertz to 10 gigahertz — and
convert the electromagnetic waves into an electrical current,
So you could just pop it
I don't see any trouble with that
2013/3/25 Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com
” WE GOT EVIDENCE THAT
THE ‘ EFFECT’ IS REAL BEYOND ANY REASONABLE DOUBT”.
does not sound very encouraging in terms of CoP of the HCat. If it
took this long to come to that conclusion, the performance must be
I hope the output is at least as powerful as the two years of hot air
expelled discussing it
On Monday, March 25, 2013, Terry Blanton wrote:
” WE GOT EVIDENCE THAT
THE ‘ EFFECT’ IS REAL BEYOND ANY REASONABLE DOUBT”.
does not sound very encouraging in terms of CoP of the HCat. If it
took
DJ Cravens djcrav...@hotmail.com wrote:
Granted it was only about a watt in Boston and ¼ W in Monte Carlo, but
still demos and papers were give at both.
Higher power would be helpful, but again, these demonstration failed to
have impact mainly because they were not documents, published or
Protons don’t become neutrons, but their collective charge is screened.
This collective charge of all the protons in the nucleus is where the
coulomb barrier comes from.
When the coulomb barrier is suppressed, there must be a reduction of charge
in each and every proton in the nucleus.
As this
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
My impression is that NASA has done significant work with surface plasmon
effects and is absolutely convinced that they are such a breakthrough (in
other fields) that they are willing to overlook the problems as they
pertain to electrolysis LENR. . . .
Since the screening comes from the geometry of the NAE, any elements can
fission and/or fusion. It is a nuclear free for all inside the NAE.
For example, a light element can become heavier because of subsequent
fusion with hydrogen.
The large verities of elements found in the transmutation
On 03/25/2013 09:35 AM, Terry Blanton wrote:
” WE GOT EVIDENCE THAT
THE ‘ EFFECT’ IS REAL BEYOND ANY REASONABLE DOUBT”.
does not sound very encouraging in terms of CoP of the HCat. If it
took this long to come to that conclusion, the performance must be
low.
I don't share that conclusion.
I agree with you, Jed. The most effective way to understand LENR is by
seeing the patterns it creates. You see the patterns produced by
interest in the subject. These pattens become obvious only when a
large data set is viewed. As a result, you see clearly what interests
the most people,
Jed- Let me be blunt. I am sitting here with the data from 2.8 million visits
to LENR-CANR. I have it, and you don't. That makes me the expert. Frankly, I
think it is a little presumptuous for you and other researchers to tell me what
the audience for cold fusion papers does or does not want
Terry Blanton wrote:
” WE GOT EVIDENCE THAT
THE ‘ EFFECT’ IS REAL BEYOND ANY REASONABLE DOUBT”.
does not sound very encouraging in terms of CoP of the HCat. If it
took this long to come to that conclusion, the performance must be
low.
I don't see why.
In my experience, it takes
DJ Cravens djcrav...@hotmail.com wrote:
Jed- Let me be blunt. I am sitting here with the data from 2.8 million
visits to LENR-CANR. I have it, and you don't. That makes me the expert.
Frankly, I think it is a little presumptuous for you and other researchers
to tell me what the audience for
DJ Cravens djcrav...@hotmail.com wrote:
I did publish it! I just now gave the wrong link, but as I noted before I
published it here: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/RothwellJthefuturem.pdf yes,
having the correct link helps a little.
You owe it yourself to read the paper I already
From: Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote:
My impression is that NASA has done significant work with
surface plasmon effects and is absolutely convinced that they are such a
breakthrough (in other fields) that they are willing to
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 10:21 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:
The antenna and the receiver circuit are designed to pick up a wide
range of frequencies — from 500 megahertz to 10 gigahertz — and
convert the
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 9:51 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Andre Blum andre_vor...@blums.nl wrote:
First: Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence and all that.
I hate that aphorism! I really hate it. Here is what Melich and I wrote
about it, in response to the
e-catworld has this update.
UPDATE: Rossi reports that one of the testers told him: ” ” What we have
seen is too important, must absolutely be published”. Also, in reference
to the new design of the hot cat, he states: “Basically, we have no more
a reactor or a cluster of reactors, but each
James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
Sagan's statement clearly places him in the pre-Enlightenment mode of
natural science: A priest.
Amen. Also the way he said millions and MIIONS.
- Jed
Rossi talks about charge. The activator could be a charge amplifier.
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 12:27 PM, a.ashfield a.ashfi...@verizon.net wrote:
e-catworld has this update.
UPDATE: Rossi reports that one of the testers told him: ” ” What we have
seen is too important, must absolutely be
Sometimes, I think Rossi is like the beggar in this Hanukkah story of
Bone Button Borscht.
You can listen to the story here.
http://www.cbc.ca/video/news/audioplayer.html?clipid=2178798097
It starts at the 5:30 mark.
Harry
Actually, I thought that the wave/particle duality suggests that one can look
at the particle as just a waveform in certain cases which occupies a large
amount of space. If that amount of space is significant, then it might be easy
to hide several particle sized objects in one general wave
DJ Cravens djcrav...@hotmail.com wrote:
I admit I just skimmed it, but it seems only to address WHO is accessing
the materials, not which papers/data/presentations are being accessed.
Well, who and how many. I have published other descriptions of which kinds
of papers are accessed.
How
I does sound that way doesn't it? Anyone want to make a guess as to what the
report will say?
I will start with a COP of 4.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, Mar 25, 2013 9:36 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi says
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 1:10 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
I does sound that way doesn't it? Anyone want to make a guess as to what
the report will say?
I will start with a COP of 4.
13.72 (◕‿◕)
Don't try this at home!
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, Mar 25, 2013 9:45 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Nokia developing phone that recharges itself without mains
electricity
On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 10:21 PM, Harry
I wrote:
The videos on YouTube do have individual tallies, showing how many times
they have been downloaded, and likes and dislikes.
Steve Krivit has uploaded a bunch of videos, including some first-rate
ones. See:
http://www.youtube.com/user/StevenKrivit?feature=watch
You can tell which
I make no predictions about the specifics of this report. But I do predict
three things:
1. It will be positive, as he claims. What possible benefit would he derive
from lying about this? As soon as the report comes out people would see he
is lying.
2. It will be published sooner or later.
For example, the waves in a body of water can coalesce into a big wave in
less space than the small waves: a rogue wave. You can’t really tell where
those small waves went. They are forever gone as separate entities.
But in quantum mechanics, if one of those waves produces energy, all the
small
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On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 3:37 AM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote:
He takes risks. No report within 1 month, he will lose even his core fans.
The report will be inconclusive and/or written by
unknown professors even worse.
BTW, have you noticed how silent is the ShutdownRossi site
Peter Gluck apparently wrote:
He takes risks. No report within 1 month, he will lose even his core
fans.
The report will be inconclusive and/or written by
unknown professors even worse.
I didn't get that message.
I am not sure who the core fans would be. I guess all these people who
As 22 passi writes, if this is false (or made up) this will be proof of
crazyness. There are some limits to everything. My worries are about the
quality of the report.
Peter
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 10:03 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote:
Peter Gluck apparently wrote:
He takes
Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote:
As 22 passi writes, if this is false (or made up) this will be proof of
crazyness. There are some limits to everything.
Good point. I guess it is one thing to announce vague grand plans to make
200,000 reactors a year. No one takes the grand plans
In reply to Arnaud Kodeck's message of Mon, 25 Mar 2013 10:41:27 +0100:
Hi,
[snip]
50Hz antenna will make the phone very huge ...
No, you just need to use resonance, though I grant that a resonant circuit at 50
or 60 Hz would probably need large capacitors/coils. Using electronics to mimic
a
Here is a lecture by Iwamura which is popular, and well worth seeing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VefCEaLAkRwlist=UU28a-FqpaYi23i51vPRhJqg
As I said, I cannot easily measure if these are having an effect at
LENR-CANR.org. Iwamura is popular, but he would be anyway. That's quality
work.
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Mon, 25 Mar 2013 04:03:34 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
You are right. They are in superposition. They are nowhere and everywhere
at the same time: delocalized.
This is why LENR gammas get thermalized. A fission reaction in a condensate
will spread its energy throughout
DJ Cravens djcrav...@hotmail.com wrote:
I know you hate my car idea but just FYI the Iwamura video you way is
popular has been viewed around 3400 times, my You tube car video has been
viewed 3700 in just 3 weeks. So if just downloading is the measure, my
approach is popular. My guess is
The Bumpy Road.
The binding energy contained inside the nucleus is an uncertain thing; it
goes up and down at the whim of quantum mechanics; it varies with the
uncertainty principle. This energy is comprised of two parts: a real energy
and a virtual energy. It is this virtual energy that can vary
On 2013-03-25 08:01, Harry Veeder wrote:
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=791#comments
Andrea Rossi
March 24th, 2013 at 10:53 PM
Prometon s.r.l issued a related press release (in Italian):
http://www.22passi.it/downloads/Comunicato_stampa_Prometeon_25_3_2013.pdf
Cheers,
S.A.
On 03/25/2013 08:07 PM, Akira Shirakawa wrote:
Prometon s.r.l issued a related press release (in Italian):
http://www.22passi.it/downloads/Comunicato_stampa_Prometeon_25_3_2013.pdf
Here's the Google translation:
BOLOGNA. Completed the day before the test VALIDATION
and the Hot Cat by
Subtle But Challenging:The Universe according to Planck
21 Mar 2013
http://sci.esa.int/science-e/www/object/index.cfm?fobjectid=51551
ESA's Planck satellite has delivered its first all-sky image of the
Cosmic Microwave Background (CMB), bringing with it new challenges
about our understanding of
Axil,
It looks like my speculation may be right. Rossi writes:
1.
Andrea Rossi
March 25th, 2013 at 8:13 PM
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=791cpage=4#comment-664056
Dear Robert Tanhaus:
1- no, we revolutioned the technology separating the activation from
the
Robin, it would be very impractical to attempt to tap into the 60 hertz field
with a device of this size. They had better stick with the high RF frequencies.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: mixent mix...@bigpond.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, Mar 25, 2013 6:15 pm
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 3:45 AM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
In reply to Harry Veeder's message of Mon, 25 Mar 2013 02:33:23 -0400:
This abstract seems to support your theory as long as the electron's
displacement is small relative to its size.
Dave,
a continous charge distribution presents another problem. Why doesn't
this _electric form_ spontaneously distintergrate from internal
repulsion? I can think of two solutions:
a) the electric form has a distinct hypothetical internal structure
which binds it together,
b) or the electric form
On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 10:21 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
...however, that having been said, the path that the bouncing neutrons
follow
would be longer because of a random-walk. Since the path is longer, their
chances of being captured increases...but maybe this is already included
in the
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