Ahmen Axil :)
On Jun 21, 2014 8:32 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
I believe that LENR is many centuries ahead of its time. Let us understand
this paradigm changing device through an like example.
Let us put ourselves back to the year 1014 AD. Imagine that a smart phone
was given
In following the dots that LENR experimentation has throne like bread
crumbs down a long and dark winding road, my journey of the dots has now
led me to and then deep inside the nucleus. I now believe I must learn
something about how nuclear matter is put together and stays together.
The name
I don't think there is much hope in that direction. The gauge theories are
complete phenomenology - the U(1)xSU(2) electroweak sector is pretty successful
and allows detailed calculations, but the SU(3) color dynamics sector is
numerically hopeless, even when attacked by the strongest computer.
From the products of transmutation that we see in many LENR experiments, it
sure looks to me like the protons and neutrons in the input material are
being chopped up, blended together, and reformed into a wide range of both
light and heavy output elements.
For example, in the Mizuno reaction,
The following is a compilation and revision of several tentative concepts
introduced last week which present an unusual explanation for the Rossi
effect -- as being a Higgs-mediated nucleon exchange reaction.
Without accepting Kullander's findings from 2013 as accurate, this
hypothesis would
Natural isotopic ratio might mean that LENR is using the same processes
that formed all matter in the universe in the first place.
To be specific, quark plasma will always condense into elements with the
same isotopic structure as the same elements found elsewhere in the
universe..
On Sun, Jun
My guess is that Levi et al. are trying to get this published in a journal.
Maybe a major journal such as Nature. That is a fool's errand.
- Jed
If true, this might mean that Nature has input into how the test is run to
meet it own high scientific standards.
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
wrote:
My guess is that Levi et al. are trying to get this published in a
journal. Maybe a major journal such
I forget where I read it, but Levi was not involved this time.
Harry
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
wrote:
My guess is that Levi et al. are trying to get this published in a
journal. Maybe a major journal such as Nature. That is a fool's errand.
- Jed
The extreme limitation on access to the magic box upon which this report
is founded is an impediment to its credibility. Larding on top of that
impediment associations with Rossi, such as Levi, is (unlike the limited
access) unnecessary and synergistically damaging to the report's
credibility.
Who will judge the bet is won ?
Nature, Science ?
the problem is that in the case the report is positive based on the
experimental results :
- first the testers will weaken their language , like they already did, to
avoid commiting, whatever is the result.
- second the skeptics will just say no
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 8:49 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
it sure looks to me like the protons and neutrons in the input material are
being chopped up, blended together, and reformed into a wide range of both
light and heavy output elements. ... For example, in the Mizuno reaction,
Alain Jed--
I agree with Jed. Fear of the unknown is hard wired in the human/animal
response in general. Only rational thought process or repeated safe
experiences can overcome this built-in fear. Its the risk takers like Rossi
who look fear in the face and ignore her/him that cause
*where we see additions of other elements (copper, iron, etc.) in their
natural isotopic ratios, this is due to successive neutron and proton
capture reactions, selected for favorable energy release.*
The conundrum is that neutrons are NEVER seen in LENR reactions. How can
isotopes change without
I might add to Eric’s suggestion that we all take a sip once in a while.
Bob
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On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 7:27 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
E-Cat world
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 10:29 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
The conundrum is that neutrons are NEVER seen in LENR reactions. How can
isotopes change without the presence of neutrons, The total lack of
neutrons is an important dot to be connected.
Yes -- good point. I'm thinking not
more...
Lack of neutrons is one of the major barriers to belief in LENR by those
who expect isotope change to be a neutron connected process.
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
*where we see additions of other elements (copper, iron, etc.) in their
natural
http://maxebiznes.pl/nwmzh/feghgxkmgo.kegoag
stripping implies a multiple reaction mechanism where one neutron produced
in the first reaction is used by a second reaction.
We would expect to see loads of free neutrons floating around waiting for
the second reaction to begin.
It looks like there is one monolithic reaction happening where
The conundrum is that neutrons are NEVER seen in LENR reactions.
What? While they've not been observed in commensuration with the excess
heat, to say they're NEVER seen is just wrong. Maybe you're only speaking
in reference to NiH? You have to be more clear. You seem familiar with
Mizuno's work.
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
stripping implies a multiple reaction mechanism where one neutron produced
in the first reaction is used by a second reaction. ... We would expect to
see loads of free neutrons floating around waiting for the second reaction
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
If true, this might mean that Nature has input into how the test is run to
meet it own high scientific standards.
I do not think Nature editors make suggestions about how to conduct an
experiment. With one exception: they made suggestions when their own
Danny--
In this theory of the electron how does the magnetic moment relate to spin of
the electron and in the formation of electrons and positrons in pair production
where does the energy associated with the angular momentum originate. This is
of course an old question (Don Hotson’s for one)
“Nature” would be a fool’s errand for sure.
European Physical Journal B would be the wiser choice.
From: Jed Rothwell
My guess is that Levi et al. are trying to get this published in a journal.
Maybe a major journal such as Nature. That is a fool's errand.
- Jed
In the O-P process what disrupts the glueon bonding of the neutron to the
proton to allow their separation?
It does not happen very often given the concentration of D in the universe.
Bob
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On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote:
In the O-P process what disrupts the glueon bonding of the neutron to the
proton to allow their separation?
It does not happen very often given the concentration of D in the universe.
My best guess (perhaps not even a
The video states that the neutron production is 10,000,000 less than would
be expected if neutrons were supporting the LENR reaction and this implies
that there is a aneutonic reaction involved in LENR.
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Foks0904 . foks0...@gmail.com wrote:
The conundrum is that
Charge density is limited by the Pauli exclusion principle. In order for a
load of electrons to concentrate, electron charge must be delocalized.
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com
wrote:
The lack of gamma specks against the Phillips process. The thermalization
of the ejected proton would produce gamma radiation which would not be
suppressed by the initial LENR reaction.
Ego, the Phillips reaction is not a primary reaction mechanism.
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Eric Walker
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
Charge density is limited by the Pauli exclusion principle. In order for a
load of electrons to concentrate, electron charge must be delocalized.
Yes -- I take back my remark about charge density. It is probably higher
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
The lack of gamma specks against the Phillips process. The thermalization
of the ejected proton would produce gamma radiation which would not be
suppressed by the initial LENR reaction.
Ego, the Phillips reaction is not a
Greetings Vortex-l,
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It would be great if we could find one mechanism that provides the total
set of transmutation produces seen in LENR.
There is light elements, magic elements like calcium, iron and copper, and
heavy elements like lead... and many more.
The Philips reaction is not a one reaction fit all solution.
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
It would be great if we could find one mechanism that provides the total
set of transmutation produces seen in LENR. ... The Philips reaction is not
a one reaction fit all solution.
Agreed. The data do not match simple
From: Ron Kita
A most interesting Oxford Company:
http://cellaenergy.com/
Also they are claiming a Graphene-Quartz Self Charging Battery:
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Cella_Energy's_Ermy_Self-Charging_Battery
Hi Ron,
These two companies appear to be unrelated except
Does anybody know why the establishment did not invoke the P-O stripping
reaction to explain the fusion of two D atoms in the original P-F experiment?
It seems that if it were known that D could fuse with C-12 to form C-13 it
would be possible for two D to back up to each other, neutron to
Physics Letters A published a replication of Arata's pycnodeuterium paper.
This could easily be called a replication of earlier Ni/H papers.
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
“Nature” would be a fool’s errand for sure.
European Physical Journal B
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
“Nature” would be a fool’s errand for sure.
European Physical Journal B would be the wiser choice.
True. But they have not published anything about cold fusion for many
years, as I recall.
- Jed
On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 8:18 PM, Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com
wrote:
I am saying I believe - your opinion is as good as mine just my believe -
that there is a conflict between people and that some say 'let us publish',
while other say
we get the question xyz- what are we
Obviously, if a cold fusion device hits the market, it will render the
delayed independent report on the Hot Cat largely moot for practical
purposes.
That then raises the equally obvious question:
What linkage, if any other than raising capital and/or scientific interest,
is there between the
Kevin, I understand your frustration. I can see that it is one thing what
should take place and another what is taking place.
There is no room for insider preferred treatment. That is because of that I
responded to your post. It is not that kind of environment. Too easy to
find and too hard to
I agree with you James,
Reality is that the only way things will change is that we have a product
available on the market.
Where should I submit my order form?
When mine is installed I think my neighbor is the next customer.
Unfortunately the Independent Report only has an academic value. (Not
Eric--
Note the following:
http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/06/20/empirically-incontrovertible-evidence-for-d-d-cold-fusion-seen-in-accelerator-experiments/
This item also suggests that the electrons of the metallic lattice are
important, although it indicates redistribution of energy via
According to that bet, the report will be the judge.
The report is the judge of that bet by the COP that it reports.
On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 2:52 AM, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com
wrote:
Who will judge the bet is won ?
Nature, Science ?
the problem is that in the case the report is
Lennart,
I don't agree. It will have an effect on changing the negative attitude
of government departments like DOE that effects grant money, the patent
office (a bit late), the ability to get a UL certificate and certainly
stimulate competition. Remains to be seen whether it would also
On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Patrick Ellul ellulpatr...@gmail.com
wrote:
... not even the skeptics, as they believe that the report will be wrong
or faked.
***It is amazing how far the skeptopaths go to deny. To have the report
be wrong would mean that 7 independent PhD scientists cannot
ashfield, I see your points and I agree my way of expression was sloppy.
My thinking was that possibilities for Nobel price, patent, and a positive
attitude from the community in large was 'academic'.
I still think that the advertising of a LENR for sale at $x,259.99 is what
will change it all.
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 4:14 PM, Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com
wrote:
There is no room for insider preferred treatment. That is because of that
I responded to your post. It is not that kind of environment. Too easy to
find and too hard to absorb (the critic afterwards).
***I doubt
Jones:
These are brilliant insights. It will take me a while to absorb it before
I can comment. Keep up the good work.
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 8:53 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
The following is a compilation and revision of several tentative concepts
introduced last week
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 4:14 PM, Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com
wrote:
There is no room for insider preferred treatment. That is because of that
I responded to your post. It is not that kind of environment. Too easy to
find and too hard to absorb (the critic afterwards).
***Just ONE
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Ok kevin I am guilty.
I doo express myself poorly in English.
There are fewer payphones in Sweden than here.
On Jun 22, 2014 10:08 PM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 4:14 PM, Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com
wrote:
There is no room for insider
Keep in mind that a few $billion buys a lot of mai tais. Swedes are no
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On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 10:18 PM, Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com
wrote:
Ok kevin I am guilty.
I doo express myself poorly in English.
There are fewer payphones in Sweden than here.
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