*But what's in it for me?*
This is what your world is all about, This is the principle that guides
you. But remember the words ... it is better to give than receive.
You can memorize all words of the holy books and recite them flawlessly,
but still not take them to heart as a path to live by.
This is experimental research, to explore where no man have been before
note that Ed Storms in his books reports that some thin film of platinum
deposited during electrolysis from the anode seems to activate other
metal...
moreover maybe impurities are the active lattice...
or it is just
Hey, if he is going to waste my time digging my equipment from storage, I want
something in return. This has nothing to do with giving or receiving, it's
simply taking measures to not allow petty people from goading you into wasteful
time consuming actions.
He initiated a challenge; I'm
I was not insulted at all. Everybody is ignorant in some areas and fast
thinking comes only with exercise. I discover new words on a daily basis
e.g at wordsmith.org and in other sources; if I don't understand it I ask
Google:define . I knew SWOT from industrial practice; may concepts
and
This is not a bet. Any respectable researcher has lab notes. Show them.
2014-08-17 1:52 GMT-03:00 Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com:
How about making this interesting. If I can show proof that I spent
money, time and effort replicating this Flat Plate Heat Exchanger
contraption, will you
First, who is Carlin? Why would I listen to the advice or opinion of a
spoiled, liberal, elitist comedian wanna-be?
Second, I did not start the religious discussion. Others did and I am only
responding like I am responding to your allegations here.
Third, Those who invoke the Carlin 11th
Why the heck not?
What's the matter? cluck cluck cluck chicken? Put your money where your mouth
is. Put up or Shut up.
I'm ready to put your mouth where it belongs. Just give me a chance will you?
And by the way, nice attempt to change the conditions of your challenge.
Here's your
No, it is elementary respect for the religion of others.
I was sure you will use this Web source and not your own ideas to answer
In extreme cases, not respecting the 11th Commandment leads to what ISIS is
doing to Christians these days.
Be convinced that the original idea of keeping your
Let's just be reminded who started all this religious discussion. Rocha
started this with a religious insult. Which of us all has no respect for the
religion of others?
Just like in the previous incident, others started the insults.
But, I will drop this if you agree to drop it. In fact, I
Just show your lab notes. And I will believe in your claims. My belief is
my payment to you.
Well, what say you? do we have a deal?
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com
Nah ... not worth it.
I don't care about your belief or not. I just want you to shut up and never
bother me again.
Jojo
- Original Message -
From: Daniel Rocha
To: John Milstone
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:JANAP 128..Kudos...the Axil
At least one place where Piantelli reports use of the cloud chamber on his
rod was at 10th International Workshop on Anomalies in Hydrogen Loaded
Metals; Siena, Italy; April 10-14, 2012, in his slide set. Author are F.
Piantelli, and W. Collis. This can be found at:
The noise in systems processed by a Multi-Channel Amplifier (MCA) manifests
itself as the width of the measured peak in energy when the input is known
to be a single impulsive line. There is a lot of engineering that goes
into low noise sensors for X-ray spectroscopy inside SEMs (in a vacuum).
The Yazidis are not Christians. They are a pre-Muslim group with interesting if
murky ties to Zoroastrian and other early religions. As a result of unfortunate
translational ambiguity and deliberate misrepresentation they have been wrongly
accused, in my opinion, with devil-worship.
In Islam,
So, I will continue nagging you! Axil is a good guy.
2014-08-17 6:53 GMT-03:00 Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com:
I don't care about your belief or not. I just want you to shut up and
never bother me again.
--
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com
The problem with a cloud chamber for LENR could be its extremely high
sensitivity and the resultant tendency to misinterpret results based on a
flurry of visual activity from very little real energy.
The name of the game nowadays in LENR is the push towards kilowatts. The cloud
chamber
The signal to noise ratio has taken a nosedive. I'm sure this is just a
momentary thing, and the key individuals driving the noise will quickly
come to their senses.
I'm going to take the liberty of mixing lots of metaphors. Imagine we're
in a room at someone's home and it's at a party. The
The signal to noise ratio will always take a nosedive when people start
insulting other people.
Personally, I'd like a little more civilized behavior. I have not brought up
any religious topics, I'm just responding to questions.
But, the 3 maladjusted individuals are now in my killfile. They
Per Mr. Beene's request I have posted this on my google drive:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8mt4mJOTGvBWjJXaWdjWTlTWGc/edit?usp=sharing
I presume he intended it for list use only.
Now, let's go see what is so important about a 16 yr. old presentation.
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 11:50 AM,
Great. Now we're gonna have an argument between Hindus and Buddhists. This
should be interesting.
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
The signal to noise ratio has taken a nosedive. I'm sure this is just a
momentary thing, and the key individuals
This Va’vra paper from 1998 is remarkable new physics. This paper (slide
show) is equating the DDL as the “real” hydrogen ground state. The new
ground-state is achieved with a photon emission of 3.7 keV (or 4.2 Angstroms
wavelength). However, Va’vra talks about higher energy levels from
yes it is a complex story, and often the deviant sect in a religious groups
are treated much worse than the other distinct religion.
Siha groups are very badly treated, and in fact the rebellion was fueled by
ethnic revenge of Siha on Suni. when Saudi send money to fund ISIS in syria
(with US
It is late at night. You hear a noise downstairs. It is a burglar, but after a
while, he finds nothing that he recognizes as having value, and walks out.
Throw him a blanket so that he doesn't go away empty-handed
Lawrence
On Aug 17, 2014, at 10:02 AM, Steve High diamondweb...@gmail.com
It wouldn't be the first time the negatives were excluded. I wonder
if Va'vra is married after that experimental setup on p.50 which
appears to be in his home.
Are these small differences easily measurable?
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 12:02 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
Per Mr.
Greetings, Alain,
Interesting summation of the situation in Indonesia.
A. I would not blame the Saudis as sweepingly as you do. The Saudis have a
lot of internal disagreements:
1) Between the normal Muslims and the salafist Wahhabis,
2. between those desiring modernization and those opposing
http://jimbowery.blogspot.com/2014/05/greenhouses-are-not-next-green.html
On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 9:22 PM, Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com wrote:
James, Please elaborate on this technology. If it is enormously
profitable as you claim, I might be able to integrate this with my wave
power
Jones,
I think you may be mis-identifying the effects of the magnetic field in a
DDL atom. By the same token that the interior magnetic field would
increase as the electron orbital radius shrinks, the external magnetic
field shrinks as r^-3 as r gets bigger. Thus, at the normal atomic radius,
It would be wise to temper enthusiasm for Va’vra by saying that these slides
alone are not enough to draw the conclusion which was offered earlier, and
should be considered in the context of Naudts calculation.
Va’vra presents a lot of data, and to pick out the important emission line –
it
On pages 60-61 Va'vra considers the consequences if
DDL atoms exist:
___
1. DDL transition energies are 300-500 keV.
If this is real, it may be a substantial energy
source.
2. DDL atoms, such as the DDL hydrogen, could
be responsible for a
Bob,
I agree that it is too early to draw conclusions about the magnetic field
increase, since it should be easy to document that - if true - and this has not
been done. The near-field problem is on stronger ground. I think it would
prevent two DDDL from fusing but perhaps it would benefit
Thanks James. I have a few questions:
1. What is the infrastructure cost of such an Alga6 photobioreactor? What is
the ongoing energy cost?
2. It appears that it has to be installed in tropical doldrums? right? Areas
with no storms? cause I presume a storm would run havoc with the
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 9:02 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
Per Mr. Beene's request I have posted this on my google drive:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8mt4mJOTGvBWjJXaWdjWTlTWGc/edit?usp=sharing
Va'vra was ahead of his time. To quote one of the last slides: This is
1) Areal CAPEX is lower than open ponds. Specific OPEX, including energy,
is well below that required for competition with crude oil.
2) No. The initial installations compete with open ponds. They are on dry
land desert areas. You can get better economy in the ocean but you don't
need it.
Dear Readers
I see that many of you are reading AXIL's most recent editorial.
It is my pleasure to remind you that he also wrote:
AXIL dixit
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2013/04/axil-dixit.html AXILS
PROFOUND AND EXTENDED COMMENTS RE SYNTHESIS
James,
Thanks for the details of the bio project.
I think the ideas has been around for awhile and I agree that it is very
intriguing. I actually have a little experience from the field and do
understand that it is like LENR hard to control. It is still very
intriguing.
So, back to why it is hard
Yes, Peter those articles are well in tune with what I believe and a little
bit experienced in behaviorism (not on a theoretical plane but
practically). I certainly will agree with the importance of the
subconscious mind. In a comment I saw some to me very dear statements about
how our society
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com
wrote:
James,
Thanks for the details of the bio project.
I think the ideas has been around for awhile
No it hasn't.
Algae cultivation has been a pipedream for a long time if that is what you
are talking about.
What has
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com
wrote:
Specific problems are that it is not a ten million dollar test to get
there. I think you talk billions.
Not for the algae cultivation system. Its $10M. Period. End of
discussion.
The $10M is for a production
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com
wrote:
supply. However, the investment is enormous measured by what any risk
taker can provide (try Bill Gates).
Oh good grief. Do you even know who you're talking to?
Not only do I have 2 separate routes through which
Yes, it has been a pipe dream. I think it still is because of reasons I
gave.
Best Regards ,
Lennart Thornros
www.StrategicLeadershipSac.com
lenn...@thornros.com
+1 916 436 1899
202 Granite Park Court, Lincoln CA 95648
“Productivity is never an accident. It is always the result of a commitment
You're confused.
The photobioreactor technology is not the same as the atoll technology.
The photobioreactor technology requires $10M.
There is no good excuse to have confused these two.
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com
wrote:
Yes, it has been a pipe
To be clear, the atoll technology requires a breakthrough in energy
production. Once that breakthrough occurs it will naturally incorporate
the Algasol PBR technology which does NOT require a breakthrough of any
kind -- indeed it is a technology, the lack of financing for which, indicts
the
OK we agree that the RD is done.
I think you can produce a system for ten million dollars.
Then you say you have letter of intent so I certainly do not see the
problem. It should be rather easy to get the funding.
I still believe it is hard to start this with baby steps and arrive at the
vision.
To take risk in one step, which I tried to show is required, you need a
very big investment. In addition such an investment is contrary to most
laws regulating business. Yes, there is rules for ships but they hardly
work for atolls. I mentioned Gate as an example of one of the few who has
personal
I just read the article you provided. In there the vision was the atolls.
If that just was there as a filler than I misunderstood the article, sorry
for that. Although I sink the sender is responsible for the message not the
reciever.
Best Regards ,
Lennart Thornros
The Alga6 photobioreactor from Algasol, LLC brings the cost per insolated
area below that for open ponds while yielding areal productivity at an
annualized rate exceeding 35g/m^2/day using natural algae strains in high
insolation *desert* areas
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 4:01 PM, Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com
wrote:
OK we agree that the RD is done.
I think you can produce a system for ten million dollars.
Then you say you have letter of intent so I certainly do not see the
problem. It should be rather easy to get the funding.
But are you related to Kevin Bacon?
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 4:34 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com
wrote:
supply. However, the investment is enormous measured by what any risk
taker can provide (try Bill
Yeah the failure of civilization _is_ a laughing matter, isn't it?
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 4:28 PM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote:
But are you related to Kevin Bacon?
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 4:34 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Lennart
I think you jump to conclusions about others without seeing there motives.
I understand there are brain dead investors. There are also very smart
dittos.
I suspect you are missing an important factor in your presentation.
Problems mostly emanate near ourselves. You know the old biblical talk
about
When I spoke of your mature advice, it was in the context of your
confusion. Your advice was confused -- not mature.
You are welcome to your suspicions.
I am speaking from ground truth.
There are lots of highly motivated very smart people with lots of money out
there. The problem isn't the
There are people losing the key while opening the front door but look for
it under the street lamp as it is brighter there.
James I have not accused you about not telling the truth. As all of us, the
truth is what we believe to be true. The hardest place to find flaws is
within oneself.
I know
It certainly is my fault that I have not put my disabled and dependent wife
in a nursing home, gone and kidnapped the Bill Gates' children, cut their
fingers off one at a time, sending them to him until he listens.
I have many such faults.
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 5:19 PM, Lennart Thornros
Sunday's Sermon
It ought to be clear to most Vorts that I have had a tendency to post
optimistic perceptions of BLP's chances of eventually pulling the SunCell
rabbit out of the hat. Clearly, my optimism is not based on my profound
knowledge of the scientific evidence, nor the many exotic
:)
Best Regards ,
Lennart Thornros
www.StrategicLeadershipSac.com
lenn...@thornros.com
+1 916 436 1899
202 Granite Park Court, Lincoln CA 95648
“Productivity is never an accident. It is always the result of a commitment
to excellence, intelligent planning, and focused effort.” PJM
On Sun, Aug
Huzza! Well written. I think that they-and you-are on the right track
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 7:43 PM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson
orionwo...@charter.net wrote:
Sunday's Sermon
It ought to be clear to most Vorts that I have had a tendency to post
optimistic perceptions of BLP's
Bob --
If I understood the last paper from 13 the folks from Los Alamos wrote,
commenting on the Kim rejection of the DDL theory, the most likely electron
energy state to best support the approach of two H atoms in a molecule and
induce fusion is not the lowest energy state (DDL) but one
Bob and Jones--
Note my recent comment about magnetic fields and the DDL state based on
comments on the Kim rejection and other related comments of the Los Alamos
commenters.
Bob Cook
Sent from Windows Mail
From: Jones Beene
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 9:12 AM
To:
Bob,
Can you explain the reference to 13 that you made here? I am confused as
to the reference.
Thanks, Bob
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 4:57 PM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote:
Bob --
If I understood the last paper from 13 the folks from Los Alamos wrote,
commenting on the Kim
James, I find myself increasingly interested in this technology yet am having
difficulty in finding detailed information. The blogs you sent while helpful
is a little incomplete for my needs. I am currently googling for Algasol but I
find their web site skimpy on details, just lots of
You obviously haven't been looking at algae technology. I have for 20
years. Algasol has provided far more detailed and specific information
than any other company in that 2 decades of research. The fact that you
don't find it via Google is neither here nor there. Google is not due
diligence.
And by the way did you even bother looking at the DoE proposal? I did
provide you with the URL to my dropbox.
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 9:30 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
You obviously haven't been looking at algae technology. I have for 20
years. Algasol has provided far more
Here's the presentation from the European Algae Biomass 2013
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/28447217/Algae%20Platform%2024-25%20april%202013-2.pdf
I defy you to find comparably detailed information about pricing,
productivity, biomass concentration, etc. from ANY other algae technology
From: Harry Veeder
On pages 60-61 Va'vra considers the consequences if DDL
atoms exist:
___
1. DDL transition energies are 300-500 keV. If this is real, it may be
a substantial
No need to be snippy my friend, I just want detailed information for an initial
go no go decision. This is just initial due diligence. This initial
research is simply to determine if this technology will be compatible with my
wave farms. This will compete for ocean area against my wave farms
That is true Robin. Off center linear momentum could also be thought of as
momentum at right angles to normal momentum in an orthogonal relationship.
This is somewhat like cosine and sine waves which do not interact with each
other.
So far I have not been able to realize a method of
Of course a particle moving within a magnetic or electric field emits radiation
due to acceleration. This is the normal behavior and I was specifically
referring to the case where nothing else was around to interact with the
particle. No external fields means no radiation for a single
My friend, this PDF has more details but I need more. Right now, my major
concern is how to deploy this in the ocean near my wave farms. So, I am really
interested in deployment schemes, infrastructures required, dimensions, anchor
supports, and mechanisms and provisions for storm protection.
Wave technology scales with length, not area.
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 10:16 PM, Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com
wrote:
No need to be snippy my friend, I just want detailed information for an
initial go no go decision. This is just initial due diligence. This
initial research is simply
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 10:42 PM, Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com
wrote:
For instance, might it be possible to integrate the PBRs into my pump
floaters. This would significantly increase value and reduce CAPEX.
I believe you will find in the vortex-l archives my comment on precisely
the
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 10:42 PM, Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com
wrote:
One specific question. On the slides, there is provision for C02
injection into the photobioreactor. What is the source of this CO2, just
atmospheric extraction or sea water extraction?
CO2 is presumed available
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 10:16 PM, Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com
wrote:
No need to be snippy my friend,
You were the one who challenged the presentation of information as being
inadequate and since billions have been blown on algae cultivation
technologies and none of them is as
I understand what you mean, but my system scales with area. It can capture sea
state and swell state energy, not just swell energy like some wave systems.
So, if the PBRs require low sea state, I guess it won't be compatible for
integration into my wave farms. My wave farms will be deployed
As you correctly pointed out, I do not have 20 years of algae production
experience. I produced biofuel from moringa oliefera so I was presuming the
industrial processes would be the same. It turns out that it is quite
different. I just need more information, not pitting one algae technology
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 12:33 AM, Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com
wrote:
I understand what you mean, but my system scales with area. It can
capture sea state and swell state energy, not just swell energy like some
wave systems.
So, if the PBRs require low sea state, I guess it won't be
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