Re: [Vo]:Who is John Galt?

2009-02-23 Thread John Berry
I think that it is clear to everyone that socialism, communism in anything like the form that we have seen in the past is not what anyone is talking about, not even the theory/ideals of Marxism would have any fans. However something else that is differentiated from current so called capitalism or

Re: [Vo]:Who is John Galt?

2009-02-23 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, John Berry aethe...@gmail.com mounted the barricade and roared out: I think that it is clear to everyone that socialism, communism in anything like the form that we have seen in the past is not what anyone is talking about,

Re: [Vo]:Who is John Galt?

2009-02-23 Thread Terry Blanton
Hey, you're right: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0480239/ For a 2011 release date, it seems a bit early to start the ads, however. Terry On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 11:26 AM, trevsta...@aol.com wrote: I read that Brad Pitt and Agela Jolie are huge fans of Atlas Shrugged and they have brought the

Re: [Vo]:I've been hammering away at the correspondence principle

2009-02-23 Thread fznidarsic
Do you have any thoughts or am I misrepresenting your concept? You say Photons are formed when bits of the local field break away but would you envisioning that a bit of the fabric of space may break away when the photon does? John Berry My model is quite different than yours.? I have no

Re: [Vo]:Who is John Galt?

2009-02-23 Thread OrionWorks
Grok sez: ... You north americans and brits are about to find out the very real limits of capitalism ... Seems to me that as the smoke cleared Grok roared loudly in his efforts of coming off as an enlightened educated individual. Ok, Grok, since it would appear that you wish to continue

[Vo]:disturbing the vacuum

2009-02-23 Thread thomas malloy
John Berry wrote: Hmmm, ok excuse me but I have not looked at your work before despite being aware of it. My own research is into the aether (or void as Frank Wilczek calls his model of much the same spatial substance) has lead me to recognize that by moving the aether and disturbing it

Re: [Vo]:Ablation Cascade

2009-02-23 Thread Jed Rothwell
thomas malloy wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong, but in the previous discussions we have had about this matter, the strength of materials will have to increase by more than an order of magnitude in order to make the ribbon possible. I do not know where it stands today. Edwards Westling's book

Re: [Vo]:disturbing the vacuum

2009-02-23 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
thomas malloy wrote: The Bedini motor properly configured produces such a spin resonant connection within the target battery itself. The battery self charges from a spacetime connection. The motor simply produces the resonance conditions necessary for this to take place, it does not

Re: [Vo]:Who is John Galt?

2009-02-23 Thread thomas malloy
grok wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, John Berry aethe...@gmail.com mounted the barricade and roared out: I think that it is clear to everyone that socialism, communism in anything like the form that we have seen in the past is not what anyone is

Re: [Vo]:Who is John Galt?

2009-02-23 Thread John Berry
I find it incomprehensible that anyone could seriously support communism/socialism and actually be talking about the same thing that created some of the greatest atrocities that have ever occurred and been so dysfunctional as to then fall part. So if that is not what you mean, if you are not

Re: [Vo]:Who is John Galt?

2009-02-23 Thread Edmund Storms
I agree with John, However, there seems to be a basic misunderstanding about the difference between capitalism and socialism. Capitalism works because it is designed to allow each person to make decisions based on their own self interest. This is called freedom by people who use simple

[Vo]:OT - The Rapture

2009-02-23 Thread OrionWorks
Hi Thomas: ... Your recent response to Grok: Another interesting comment. You may have heard that certain Christians believe that one of these days a trumpet is going to blow, and they are going to vanish. Well I'm one of them. That's why I'm not just too concerned about the world's

Re: [Vo]:Who is John Galt?

2009-02-23 Thread John Berry
I agree with Edmund ;) On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.comwrote: I agree with John, However, there seems to be a basic misunderstanding about the difference between capitalism and socialism. Capitalism works because it is designed to allow each person to

Re: [Vo]:Who is John Galt?

2009-02-23 Thread mixent
In reply to John Berry's message of Tue, 24 Feb 2009 10:05:35 +1300: Hi, I find it incomprehensible that anyone could seriously support communism/socialism and actually be talking about the same thing that created some of the greatest atrocities that have ever occurred and been so dysfunctional

Re: [Vo]:Who is John Galt?

2009-02-23 Thread Jed Rothwell
John Berry wrote: There are many positive examples of something that could be termed positive examples of socialism in the west, socialistic health care practiced in most places seems more attractive than the capitalistic version in the US being just one example and you don't need to watch

Re: [Vo]:Who is John Galt?

2009-02-23 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gawd... if I got a slip of Monopoly money for every time I've had socialism/communism -- or capitalism -- patiently explained to me (or not) by a petit-bourgeois, I'd never have to buy toilet paper ever again... Stick to tinkering in your garages,

Re: [Vo]:Who is John Galt?

2009-02-23 Thread Jed Rothwell
grok wrote: Gawd... if I got a slip of Monopoly money for every time I've had socialism/communism -- or capitalism -- patiently explained to me (or not) by a petit-bourgeois, I'd never have to buy toilet paper ever again... We are not all petit-bourgeois, and it is possible that some of us

Re: [Vo]:OT - The Rapture

2009-02-23 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, OrionWorks svj.orionwo...@gmail.com mounted the barricade and roared out: I think one of my main objections to the concept often described as The Rapture is that for many it would seem to imply that there is absolutely

Re: [Vo]:OT - The Rapture

2009-02-23 Thread OrionWorks
Grok, I was asking Thomas, not you. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:OT - The Rapture

2009-02-23 Thread leaking pen
And doing so on an open list, not private email. which means he has a right to respond as well. On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 3:53 PM, OrionWorks svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote: Grok, I was asking Thomas, not you. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:OT - The Rapture

2009-02-23 Thread OrionWorks
Leak sez: And doing so on an open list, not private email. which means he has a right to respond as well. Grok, I was asking Thomas, not you. Of course Grok has the right to comment. You did, didn't you? My comment still stands. It is Mr. Malloy's perception that I'm interested in, not

Re: [Vo]:Who is John Galt?

2009-02-23 Thread John Berry
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 11:14 AM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to John Berry's message of Tue, 24 Feb 2009 10:05:35 +1300: Hi, I find it incomprehensible that anyone could seriously support communism/socialism and actually be talking about the same thing that created some of the

Re: [Vo]:Who is John Galt?

2009-02-23 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com mounted the barricade and roared out: grok wrote: Gawd... if I got a slip of Monopoly money for every time I've had socialism/communism -- or capitalism -- patiently explained to me (or

Re: [Vo]:Who is John Galt?

2009-02-23 Thread thomas malloy
grok wrote: Gawd... if I got a slip of Monopoly money for every time I've had socialism/communism -- or capitalism -- patiently explained to me (or not) by a petit-bourgeois, I'd never have to buy toilet paper ever again... Stick to tinkering in your garages, guys. Given how full of s-it

Re: [Vo]:OT - The Rapture

2009-02-23 Thread thomas malloy
grok wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, OrionWorks svj.orionwo...@gmail.com mounted the barricade and roared out: I think one of my main objections to the concept often described as The Rapture is that for many it would seem to imply that there is

Re: [Vo]:Who is John Galt?

2009-02-23 Thread mixent
In reply to John Berry's message of Tue, 24 Feb 2009 12:13:40 +1300: Hi, [snip] I consider the N extreme to be the ideal, though one that people must be ready for, but I am looking at the north end as being labeled libertarian not anarchist which has different connotations. (Libertarian does not

Re: [Vo]:OT - The Rapture

2009-02-23 Thread Harry Veeder
- Original Message - From: thomas malloy temall...@usfamily.net Date: Monday, February 23, 2009 8:57 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:OT - The Rapture grok wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, OrionWorks svj.orionwo...@gmail.com mounted the barricade

Re: [Vo]:Who is John Galt?

2009-02-23 Thread John Berry
Well I guess that would be off the scale, those who hold it as a political ideology would assume that there is a system to keep people from harming each other or that the society did not contain dysfunction so not requiring any army/police/justice system to protect people On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at

[Vo]:Complete BARC-1500 Studies in Cold Fusion Report Republished Electronically

2009-02-23 Thread Steven Krivit
Complete BARC-1500 Studies in Cold Fusion Report Republished Electronically Historic Research on Neutron and Tritium Production from LENR experiments at India's Largest Nuclear Research Laboratory http://newenergytimes.com/v2/archives/1989BARC1500Report/BARC1500.htm Preface to the New Energy

Re: [Vo]:Who is John Galt?

2009-02-23 Thread Harry Veeder
- Original Message - From: John Berry aethe...@gmail.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009 10:18 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Who is John Galt? Well I guess that would be off the scale, those who hold it as a politicalideology would assume that there is a system to keep people from harming

Re: [Vo]:OT - The Rapture

2009-02-23 Thread thomas malloy
OrionWorks wrote: Hi Thomas: ... Your recent response to Grok: Another interesting comment. You may have heard that certain Christians believe that one of these days a trumpet is going to blow, and they are going to vanish. Well I'm one of them. That's why I'm not just too concerned about